Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic: 202 - My Nightingale

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

On this week's episode, Carla stays at the hospital overnight to help her friends as then endure their first night in charge of the hospital. In the real world, Zach and Donald remember their good fri...end Nick Cordero. Footnotes: Nick Cordero in Bullets Over Broadway Support for Nick's spouse and child. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart podcast. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I collect my roommates toenails and fingernails. Those were some callers from my call in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take phone calls from anonymous strangers as a fake gecko therapist and try to learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept,
Starting point is 00:00:27 but I promise it's very interesting. Check it out for yourself by searching for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? Because it's a question that we rarely ask ourselves. All of May is actually Mental Health Awareness Month,
Starting point is 00:00:47 and on the psychology of your 20s, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about. Prepare for our conversations to go deep. I spent the majority of my teenage years, my 20s, just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live,
Starting point is 00:01:05 I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend. So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of your wellbeing. Listen to The Psychology of Your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Sarah Jessica Parker is here, and she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill you in. And that you're going to fill me in. Yes, but then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Listen to Are You a Charlotte? on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think it's a sign of great mental health to acknowledge the dark wolf inside you. It's Mental Health Awareness Month, and on a recent episode of The One You Feed, Josh Radner from How I Met Your Mother joins us to talk about fame, self-acceptance, aging, and finding peace in discomfort.
Starting point is 00:02:05 That is the mercy of time, that time, it is a healer. To hear this and more on healing, identity, and the wisdom of slowing down, open your free iHeartRadio app, search one you feed, and listen now. For those of you who don't know, our friend Nick Cordero died. I guess if you're listening, it was two days ago. He died of complications due to COVID. He died at 1140 in the morning, his mother and wife Amanda were by his side. Just for clarity's sake, he didn't have COVID anymore. What COVID did to Nick is what it does to a lot of people, is it comes in and wreaks havoc on your body, and then leaves, and you don't have it anymore.
Starting point is 00:02:50 But you're left with what the doctors called lungs that looked like Swiss cheese. They said it looked like he'd been a heavy smoker his entire life. And he was on every machine they could put him on. And towards the end, they were all on full. They were on, you know, he'd have days where he was on every machine they could put him on and they at towards the end they were all on full they were on you know he'd have he'd have days where he was doing okay, and everyone get excited because something would happen that was somewhat good and
Starting point is 00:03:14 Then it would all kind of go back to zero so he was in he was just Even to live he would have needed a full Double lung transplant and you only get those if you're healthy in all other ways. So the machines were really truly keeping him alive. But he was surrounded by loved ones, and Amanda is just the ultimate wife. I mean, I can't imagine a spouse who could have championed her husband more. I mean, she like started this movement online
Starting point is 00:03:46 with people just rooting for them and singing his song. Nick amongst being an actor and a Broadway star and was also becoming a TV star, was writing his own music. And so he wrote this song, Live Your Life, which was beautiful. It was his first track and it's on Spotify and Apple and everywhere.
Starting point is 00:04:05 We're gonna end the show with it today. But Amanda would have everyone sing it at three. She would like on Instagram, she'd have this whole, just all like thousands of people across the world singing his song and anyone that would talk to her about ways to help Nick on any person who DM'd her, she would like talk to her about ways to help Nick. Any person who DM'd her, she would talk to them and be like, what, what do you know? She just did more research and she really got so involved.
Starting point is 00:04:33 The doctors and nurses at Cedars, I have to say, were amazing and did everything they could. But COVID doesn't give a fuck, really. Yeah. No, it does not At all because he if COVID did give a fuck Circumstances wouldn't be what they are right now He you know
Starting point is 00:04:55 I guess one of the hardest things for us and you included down has been seeing this You know young folks not believing that uh that this can really kill them. I think it's, the sad thing is that people, I think the young attitude, and when I say young, I mean under 50, I'm just guessing, is like people have this attitude of like, all right, I don't wanna get it, but if I get it, I hear it's like the flu.
Starting point is 00:05:22 And for some, that's true, and then for some, there's what happened to Nick where it's uh Or it just destroys your body. I mean he he had in treating him. He developed all these blood clots So bad that he he had to have his leg removed His blood pressure wasn't strong enough So his the tips of all his fingers and toes were blackening and they would have had to have been removed had he lived.
Starting point is 00:05:50 He also was on like, you know, wreck havoc on his kidneys. He was on dialysis. He was on the ventilator, which was often at its highest setting. He was on, he had a pacemaker. I don't know how we do this show today, but we're going to try to do this show today. Well, I think we do it because, you know, I could have canceled doing this, but I feel like sitting around and joking with you and this amazing group of friends and fans and listeners that listen to the show is one of the bright spots of my week.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You know, I look forward to this. I look forward to sitting around and laughing with you. I look forward to reminiscing. And I feel like I am so useless to the world right now the only thing I only service I can provide it all is That you and I can make a bunch of people laugh Hopefully twice a week and and and remember some old stories and make people giggle. So I don't want to not do my Your part my part hopefully which we will we will shift to I do want to just talk a little bit about how I met him, if that's okay. Yeah, please do. So we were doing a show called Bullets Over Broadway,
Starting point is 00:07:13 which if you don't know the movie, it's a Woody Allen movie with John Cusack and Diane Weist, really great film. And so this was a musical adaptation. It wasn't new songs though, they decided to all, just use songs from the period. Originally when we did early readings of it, it was gonna be Bobby Cannavale because Bobby is like, you know, in the film it's Chas Palminteri, but Bobby is like such a young Chas Palminteri type
Starting point is 00:07:43 and such a good actor. We did a reading and Bobby is just an extraordinary actor. He's not a mega Broadway singer, nor am I. I'm sure Bobby would agree. The part was like, when Bobby did it, it was good, but it was like, how is this going to work if the guys got all these big songs? Then Bobby couldn't do it for scheduling reasons, and Nick came in, and no one had heard of Nick before,
Starting point is 00:08:11 I hadn't heard of Nick before. And he starts singing, and everyone just dropped their jaws on the floor. This unknown guy who was like, he was like 6'5", big, tough looking guy. And then he sang like Sinatra. He had the most amazing voice and everyone just, everyone's jaws were on the floor,
Starting point is 00:08:29 including one of the beautiful dancers in the show, Amanda Klutz, who was going through a divorce at the time. And certainly her eyes perked up when she saw the super handsome six-five guy sing like Sinatra. How come they always got to be tall? Let's just get that out of the way real quick. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:08:51 Well, you know, if you're under 5'11", all of a sudden, women look at you like you're short. That's not true. I would say if you're under a certain height, and not 5'11". The minute you hit six feet tall out of nowhere You're a tall person I've seen I've seen it. How tall are you? I'm six feet Must be five ten and a half. No, no, no, no, no, I'm six feet man. I'm six feet
Starting point is 00:09:19 I'm sure my it's on my driver's license when I go over the doctor. So you lied to the government is what you're saying. No, no, no, no, no, no. But my point is, you know, you say you're 5'11", it's like, oh no, we can't talk. You say you're six feet, it's a big, it's a big difference. It's almost like women break out the ruler on you too. Like the long, what's the thing that you pull out of? Tape measure.
Starting point is 00:09:41 The tape measure. They pull it out to make sure, okay, you all right, and you can't be like 5'11 1 1 2 1 2. It has to be like 6'1 1 2. Once you're over 6', you're considered tall. This is what I've learned. We really tapped into a personal issue here, though. No, this is what I learned. Anyway, back to it. So, Amanda sees Nick. 6'5". So they have their meat cue. Now, the big thing in the bullets of a Broadway,
Starting point is 00:10:07 and you can see this moment, actually, it's best captured on the Tonys. So Nick, so we do the show, and the show is a big ass musical, big budget, huge dance number. And Nick does not know how to tap dance. So Nick has to train his ass off to learn not just how to tap dance, but how to tap dance well enough to look like the star of a Broadway tap dance number. And you can see this if you go on YouTube and look up Bullets Over Broadway, The Tonys,
Starting point is 00:10:37 they did a number at The Tonys, and you can see just how incredible it is, and it's so amazingly done, and you just won't believe that when you're watching that, that that guy didn't know anything about tap dancing and learned for the show. He trained like nonstop. So he killed it. He got a Tony nomination, which is a huge thing to be an actor on Broadway and be nominated for a Tony.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And we just bonded, man. When you do a Broadway show, you do a play, you can't sleep after the show. Your adrenaline is pumped. You know that from doing a play, Donald. So we would all go out and hang out, and we'd all party in Manhattan and end up at my place late night.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And just had so many great memories together. And then when I directed Going in Style, I put him in the movie. I don't know, for those of you who saw the movie, he plays the butcher that Morgan Freeman ends up stealing a pork loin from. Morgan Freeman goes up to the butcher counter and he's like, I'll take that one. And Nick goes, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And Morgan goes, the whole damn thing. And then Nick goes something like, whatever you say boss or something like that, I don't know. But anyway, it was just kind of a cool moment where I got to put Nick in a movie opposite Morgan Freeman. And then, you know, he and Amanda, they had this beautiful baby they named Elvis and they had always dreamed of coming to LA
Starting point is 00:11:55 because, you know, he was on Blue Bloods, the TV show, but really wanted to kickstart the next chapter of his career, you know, cause people loved him and knew him on Broadway, but he hadn't yet, other than Blue Buds, really broken out in TV. And, you know, he wanted to live in Laurel Canyon because he loved music, and Laurel Canyon just has this just beautiful history of music that was all developed here. And he actually bought, they bought a house on the street that Jim Morrison sings about when he says
Starting point is 00:12:25 Love Street. She lives on Love Street. And so, because Morrison was living on the very street. So they bought this house and they were just in love and so happy. And it was like the American dream. This beautiful couple, the white picket fence house, the brand new baby. And then, at Fent's house, the brand new baby. And then they had to go pack up their things. And then when he was packing up his stuff in New York, that's when he got COVID, came back with it. And he didn't have any of the symptoms. This is right at the beginning when everyone was like, oh, you lose your sense of smell, you have a fever, all the stuff we all learned right off the bat. He didn't have any of that. He was just exhausted.
Starting point is 00:13:06 He couldn't get out of bed. And went and had tests. He tested negative twice. And then Amanda finally said, you gotta go to the hospital. This is crazy. She dropped him off and she said- She said while he was changing the baby,
Starting point is 00:13:20 he fainted or something like that. He lost consciousness or something like that. And that's when they were like, we're going to the hospital. And she took him to the hospital. And it was the emergency room. So she was going to drop him off. She couldn't go in. So she was going to circle the block and wait for him if I recall. I know she was going to circle the block, but she was going to come back. She was going to circle the block and wait for him if I recall. I know she was going to circle the block, but she was going to come back. She was going to say, I'm not going to sit. I can't come in, obviously.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I don't want to sit in the car if it's hours with the baby, but I'll come back. Just text me. And she was never able to see him fully conscious again. He just deteriorated, deteriorated, deteriorated until the point where they put him on the ventilator and then it never came back. I mean, he kind of woke up for a little bit and there were some exciting moments where they would say, Nick, if you can hear us, look up. And he would do that, but he wouldn't do it all the time. It was only occasionally. But Amanda would just every... She couldn't be at the hospital, but there were nurses
Starting point is 00:14:31 who would set up a letter FaceTime him. Can you imagine how tragic this is? Your partner's in hospital. You can't even be there. You can't be by their side. You can't hug them. You can't kiss them. You can't cheer them on.
Starting point is 00:14:43 You have to do it over FaceTime that a generous nurse has arranged. Well, that's the part that's so tragic to me, just dropping him off at the hospital. And at this point, most people who had COVID were getting the test and then they were told after they got the test, listen, quarantined for a little bit. And if you got sick and it was like pneumonia, they were giving you drugs to combat the pneumonia and stuff, but they were sending everybody home. So when we found out that he wasn't gonna come home, that was like the first thing that was like, holy shit, what do you mean he can't come home?
Starting point is 00:15:21 And then he spent 90 days in the ICU. Yeah. I mean, 90 days in the ICU. I mean, 90 days in the ICU. That's, he, I don't know, it's tragic. And then she would come back here because she was, they were staying at my guest house, but we obviously had to social distance
Starting point is 00:15:37 and she would be, this is how fucking tragic it was. She would be 10 feet away from us, Florence and I, and sobbing, and we couldn't go hug her. We would literally stand 10 feet away from her and watch our friend sobbing. And she tested negative for- She never got it. Never got it, she tested negative for COVID
Starting point is 00:15:59 and negative for the antibodies. Yeah, she never got it. Slept in the same bed as him too. Well, when he got super sick, he moved to the guest room for what it's worth, but I mean got it. Slept in the same bed as him too. Well, when he got super sick, he moved to the guest room for what it's worth, but I mean, come on, they were in the same house. They were sharing, the baby never got it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Thank God. So now he leaves behind this beautiful baby boy who you and I are gonna be very involved in his life. Absolutely. Fortunately for me, his father loved musicals, so I will be able to do my part. I don't have to do any of that throw a baseball shit. You can do that stuff. Right. I'll teach... I happen to be in a position where his father would really want that boy to love musicals,
Starting point is 00:16:41 so I can handle that. Right on. If you can do the spiral, I still can handle that. Right on. If you can do the spiral, I still can't throw a great spiral. If you can teach both Elvis and I, if you don't mind. Don't trip. What'll be great is he'll come over, him and Rocco will play, him, Rocco and Wilder will play. Yeah. I'll have Rocco show him how to, you know, compete with kids and stuff like that. Could Rocco show me how to throw a spiral? He might be able to. Listen man, I'm not saying he's super athletic and is like a superstar athlete, but he's
Starting point is 00:17:16 definitely, you know, he's definitely in it to win it when it comes to me pushing him. How about that? Not bad. Well listen, I push him so hard. There's so much, there's so many people that love Amanda and Elvis, and we're all going to be doing our part to help give this child an extraordinary life. And he just started walking and he's just the cutest kid ever. He's so cute.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And you know, I, the last thing Nick texted me before he went unconscious was I said, is there anything I can do? And he said, please look out for Amanda and Elvis. And I promised that I'm going to do that for the rest of my life. And I want to make him proud. I want to. You will. Don't worry about it. You will you will you will You know, it's funny. We have There's all these relics or remnants of Nick around where I do the podcast is in a room where he used to do audition tapes and I'm looking right now at the tripod that he was the last person to use and and down in the gym we have a gym and
Starting point is 00:18:21 There's this water bottle. That's a it's like one of those And there's this water bottle that's like one of those plastic water bottles they give you in a gift bag thing. It's from doing James Corden, I think. And it's a James Corden water bottle that's like three quarters full of water. And we never moved it because Florence and I knew that Nick was the one who left it there. And it like sits in our gym as like a, I don't know. An homage. An homage, a testament. I don't want to touch it. We both kind of want to leave it there forever. A shrine. It's a shrine. That's what it is. So, and then not to be preachy, but it would
Starting point is 00:19:02 be irresponsible of us, I think, Donald, to not segue briefly to just begging people to wear masks. If you're paying attention at all, you saw how a lot of people behaved this holiday weekend. And I was just, I was flabbergasted. I don't know if you guys, Joel and Dan, you watch, but there's know, hundreds and hundreds of people just together partying. I don't think they quite get it. I don't know what else one can do. I mean, you can just share your experience. I don't know how else you can convince people.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I mean, I think that's as far as it goes now. I think, you know, to yell at people to wear a mask, a mask is, it seems to be a moot point because a lot of people don't want to do it. Hell, our president isn't wearing a mask. So that being said, to tell someone to do it, you can do that, but you know, everybody's gonna do what they wanna do. Yeah, yeah, I mean, what else can you do? You can lead a horse to water kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But I don't know. If you're listening to this and you're moved at all by the Nick experience, no matter where you live, please consider wearing a mask. And you might think, well, it's not, you know, you don't think it can happen to you. But, you know, Nick's the ultimate example of it's a roll of the dice. You don't know. Of course you could get a flu-like cold if you get it. You could also have a really tragic end to your life, or even worse, perhaps give it to somebody else that you care about you know you might be just a carrier and then you give it
Starting point is 00:20:48 to one of your loved ones you know Donald and I are in the unique position that we just had a front-row seat to how horrible this was so please think twice about wearing a mask do you want to get into the show? Yeah, I think we should segue to our true responsibility here, and that is to make the folks I said, he's got stories that we all should know So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our, spuds we watch show with Zach and Donald Huge get. Huge get, Donald.
Starting point is 00:21:42 On Thursday's podcast. Ken Jenkins, everybody, as promised. Ken Jenkins will be on the show, y'all. Ken Jenkins, the ultimate fake doctor, is coming to hang out with us. You know, Donald and I joked on previous podcasts that we felt he was gonna blow us off by telling us he was still moving. Ken's an older fella and I didn't know if he would figure out not only the zoom of it all but we also record ourselves on recorders and then email it to Dan who edits it all together.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And thank God, his son is super tech savvy and super down to help and so his son is going to be his own personal Danel and set it all up for him. And so ladies and gentlemen, we are thrilled to announce we're going to have Ken Jenkins on the show. Very excited about that. And the other piece of good news, Donald, that I wanted to tell everyone, there's been such a love for the ringtone. And we were so happy that you guys loved the theme song ringtone, but then a lot of people said why did you choose one without the mm-hmm? So I want you to know that now you have the choice. And we're going to put the links up on our Instagram and the bios and I'll tweet it out
Starting point is 00:23:01 and all that stuff. Or of course, just Google it. So it's kind of like, you know how they release sneakers, like limited editions and shit like that? Or as we said, remix. This is like another one. Now that one, old one's gone. If you preferred the one without the,
Starting point is 00:23:15 I'm sorry, that was a limited edition one, that's gone. And those of you who got it, you got it and it's yours. Yeah, it's probably worth way more than $1.20. Right. Because it was limited, that shit was limited and it's yours. Yeah, it's probably worth way more than $1.20. Because it was limited. That shit was limited and it's over. Now you can only get the one with the mm-hmm. And even better, you can just buy the mm-hmm and have it be your notification for your texts or your emails. So like we told you, we the best. Yeah, we the best ringtones.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Another one. We the best major key. Another one. Another one. So you can get the mm-hmm to be your text notification, which I'm going to set up myself, to be honest, because I think that's pretty funny. All right, so.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So yeah, so oh yeah, so we have a new segment. You go ahead, Don. You introduce it. All right, so this yeah, so oh yeah, so we have a new segment You got it. I'll do you introduce it. All right, so this is the new segment. We're gonna try and Give you a quick summary of the show in 30 seconds. I'm gonna go first wait No, you're gonna go period but I'm gonna I'm gonna set up my timer here. Okay, you ready because this is no joke Now you ready to do this? Yeah. All right, you got to sum up the whole show in 30 seconds. Marks, get set, go. JD, Turk, and Elliot are feeling themselves in the beginning of the episode, but then realize
Starting point is 00:24:30 that they're going to be stuck in the hospital without an attending throughout the night. That being said, they feel so underappreciated. So does Ted and his band. But the real person that's truly underappreciated in the hospital are nurses. And so we go through all of these things at night just to tell you at the end of the episode, you know who's really not appreciated at hospitals?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Nurses. Show nurses respect. Holy shit! That was incredible, dude. That was 3090. Oh man, I missed it by a second. No, come on, dude. That was incredible. I missed it by a second. And you landed it. You landed it with
Starting point is 00:25:08 like a message. Dude, you're off to a flying start. There we go. There we go. You know what I did today? I took that alpha brain. Oh, it worked on you. That was the joke. That's the Joe Rogan pill. That's the Joe Rogan pill. I took that alpha brain. I would appreciate it if you since they're not our sponsor. If you just call it your Joe Rogan pill? That's the Joe Rogan pill. I took that alpha brain. I would appreciate it if you, since they're not our sponsor, if you just called it your Joe Rogan pill. I took the Joe Rogan pill.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But wait, dude, I'm really impressed. So everyone, that's our new segment, because a few people who aren't watching the show along with us were like, can you sum up the show to remind us? And our new segment in season two, along with Ask Rob. We don't have an Ask Rob in this one because he's not in the episode, but as Donald sums up the episode in 30 seconds. You did a fantastic job. Thank you. Let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:25:54 We'll be right back after these fine words. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world
Starting point is 00:26:16 as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend and I found his pizjar in our apartment.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head search for Therapy gecko on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts It's the one with the green guy on it Hi, I'm Kristen Davis host of the podcast podcast Are You a Charlotte? What we have all been waiting for. Sarah Jessica Parker is here and she is
Starting point is 00:27:10 sharing stories from the very beginning like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right, I have some memories I can fill you in. And that you're going to fill me in. Yes, but then you forgot about it. I completely forgot about it. And very long time they took to pick us up. And she reveals what she thought when she read the script for Sex and the City the very first time. He said he wrote this like I was in his head in some way, which I found really interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And does she think Carrie is too good for Mr. Big? She had inexplicable feelings. It is a human being that can't explain to her friends why somebody that might be beneath her is dictating the hunt. You can't miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte? on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pippman, Chairman and CEO of iHeart Media.
Starting point is 00:28:04 On this week's episode of Math and Magic, I'm sitting down with the one and only Bobby Bones. We're exploring the power of audio. The word on the street then was, he's too country for pop. But then once I got to country, it was he's too pop for country. So I kind of never really had a place to fit in, but that's exactly how and why I fit. I just embraced that. Like, yeah, I don't fit into one specific hole.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I think that is what endeared me to listeners. That's why I'm here now, because I talk to people that grew up like me, have sensibilities like me, and have loyalties like me. Listen to Math & Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have a question for you and I want you to be honest with me.
Starting point is 00:28:53 How are you? It's a really hard question to ask. It's a harder one to answer, but taking care of our mental well-being has never been more important. All of May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and on the Psychology of Your 20s podcast, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about, and all the science and psychology behind some of life's hardest moments and transitions. Prepare for our conversations to go deep,
Starting point is 00:29:19 everything from grief to heartbreak, career burnout, anxiety, all of the things that you would only talk about with your closest friends. I spent the majority of my teenage years and my twenties just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend.
Starting point is 00:29:39 So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of yourself and your brain. Listen to the psychology of your twenties on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. So first thing I noticed big time in this episode is my lisp. It's sincerely lispy in this episode is my lisp. It's sincerely lispy in this episode. Very lispy.
Starting point is 00:30:07 In this episode. I feel a lot of this and a lot of this. And I- And that's edited by the way. I mean, I remember Bill being like, he's choosing the moments in editing that are your least lispy. So imagine what's on the cutting room floor.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Right. Here's the thing. I feel like, and you know, back then I was like, I'm going to try and fix my teeth. But it was such a distraction in this episode for me that I feel like, regardless of what anyone says out there, I feel like it wasn't my best performance because I'm trying to talk around a lisp. I see. Well, you were in your head, you were insecure.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I'm sure that comes up for lots of actors no matter what it is. I mean you had a self-induced problem because you put braces on your teeth, but you know, as an actor it's so important to get out of your head and be present, and if you're thinking like, oh my god, my lisp, or oh my god, the zit on my forehead,
Starting point is 00:31:04 you can't possibly be present because you're in your head. No, yeah. So you thought it affected your performance. I definitely feel like it affected my performance. And I bet you when we finally do take the braces off, when I do finally take them off. You soar like an eagle. Like an eagle.
Starting point is 00:31:22 You soar like an eagle. Yeah. That should be a ringtone, eagle. Like an eagle. You soar like an eagle. Yeah. That should be a ring tone. Eagle. Another one. Another one. So what is this fable that you're talking about in the beginning?
Starting point is 00:31:38 What are you talking about? Well, you're talking about. Oh, oh, so there's the funny, Craig's just directed it. I remember it opens with that wacky shot. I've got the glasses on, the magnifying eyeglasses, so I can look in the janitor's foot. It's the fable of pulling the thorn out of the lion's paw. Does the lion eat the mouth? No, the janitor adds that.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Oh. eat the no the janitor adds that I mean I understand the fable is the the I don't know what the fable is really right I told you know it he pulls out he put like a mouse pull Dan do you know it the mouse pulls a thorn out of the lion's paw what else is there to know it's like it's the relationship between the mouse the lion and the elephant the lion needs the mouse to pull the thorn it's like it's kind of like this it like the story about the circle of life and how we all need each other eventually. It's kind of like, I can't do this all on my own, Dan.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Hmm. There you go. There you go. I'm no Superman. Dan was able to sum up that fable in less than 30 seconds. Yeah, the janitor's just fuck you with me. He's like, no, that's, then I you know, just to put a spin on it. I left at Camp Meadowwood because, um, I improv that little, I made a lanyard. I made a lanyard.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I laughed really hard. And first, also, dude, you're, you're so good at Pratt Falls. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Oh my goodness gracious. She's like, I Pratt Falls. Oh, thank you, yeah. Oh my goodness gracious. She's like, I'm gonna describe someone here and let's see if you know who it is. Clumsy. And then John C. Cox says, don't answer that newbie.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And you look at him and you go, no worries. And you lean against a cart and fall flat on your face. I gotta tell you, man, you're really good at Pr pratfalls. Thank you. I had so much fun doing them and it's like anything over the years, I got better and better at them. We had great stunt people that would teach me how to do it better and better. And then of course, sometimes when they were like life endangering, they would do them because that's what great stunt people do. But no, thank you, I love it. I used to love it.
Starting point is 00:33:48 You know, we keep talking about John Ritter and stuff. When I was a kid and I would watch John Ritter fall in Three's Company, I mean, I just thought it was the funniest shit I'd ever seen. And his body was like a piece of spaghetti. I just wanted to be like that. So that means a lot to me, thank you. The bad title sequence is back.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I don't think it has too many appearances in season two. It's quickly killed. I think it got like four or five runs, and then now we're gonna wrap. I don't know, we're gonna notice, because we're watching. We'll be able to see when the weird slowed down. I can't do this all on.
Starting point is 00:34:24 See when that's over. And Lats, you scratching your nose with the patient's foot. Yeah. There were a lot of jokes in here that were like, wow, I don't necessarily like how Turk is acting in the beginning of this episode. He was kind of. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:34:40 He's cocky. Well, yeah, but he was also misogynistic. You know what I mean? He had a lot of misogyny going on in this episode. You mean when you're in the clinic? Well, not only when he's in the clinic, when he's in the operating room and he turns to the nursing and he says something like,
Starting point is 00:34:57 do you know what time it is, baby? And she's like, and you see in her face, she's like, wait a second, dude, who the fuck do you think you're talking to? And he goes on with it and on with it. And then that's what, and at first I's like, and you see in her face, she's like, wait a second, dude, who the fuck do you think you're talking to? And he goes on with it and on with it. And then that's what, and at first I was like, there has to be a payoff for this. Because if there isn't a payoff for this and Turk's just a dick, we got a problem here. And it turns out right, right as I said that Turk has to scratch his nose and he asks the nurse in the surgery,
Starting point is 00:35:27 will you scratch my nose for me? And she looks at him and goes, no, I can scratch my nose. And then she does. And she scratches her nose. She's like, mmm, that feels good. And Turk scratches his nose with the foot. Yeah. That was funny.
Starting point is 00:35:44 There's something in the scrubs Wiki about that guy continues to change races or something. I think sometimes his leg is white and sometimes it's black or something. No, I'll read it to you. I know. I don't know if it's true, but I trust scrubs Wiki because our scrubs Wiki, it says, um, when Turk goes into the OR, the patient lying on the table has a black man's feet, but a white man's face. Then when Turk uses the patient's foot to scratch his nose,
Starting point is 00:36:11 his feet turn back to white. That is the weirdest thing ever. It's a pretty funny continuity error. That is pretty... I don't know how that could have happened, but I don't know how that could have happened. That is pretty... I don't know how that could have happened, but I don't know how that could have happened. Maybe it's lighting or something. Maybe it is lighting. I don't know, but it's pretty funny. I mean, unless it was like a pickup from a different day and they got a different guy
Starting point is 00:36:35 to do it, I don't know. So at 524, there's a little bit of homoerotic scrubs web web stuff, where we're like all... I think there's some people whose fetish might be that we're all hooking up. But anyway, and I've seen one where Johnny C has me pressed against the wall. It's either Photoshop or it's a painting or both. I think it's a drawing.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Right, but I think I've also seen a Photoshopped one. Anyway, it's Johnny C having me pressed up against the wall from behind. And I found the moment. It's at 524 when he's pushing Jordan up against the wall. Up against the wall, right? That was the inspiration for the beautiful piece of art that is Johnny taking me from behind on the internet.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Do you think, do you, oh God. We should put that on a mug. Do you think, do you think? Oh, God. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha No, I'm just saying it's a homoerotic fantasy porn. I might not be part of the I Heart family. I don't know, maybe. Joelle? Listen, let's send it to marketing and find out. Wouldn't it be great to have that on a mug? I would totally, I would totally. How about this?
Starting point is 00:38:00 How about this? Remember we talked about how the temperature changed? Because when I was a kid, we had mugs that when you put hot stuff in them, they would change, and I thought it was the coolest thing ever, so it's Jordan, right, but when you put hot beverage in it, it turns to me. It turns to JD.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I'd buy the shit out of that mug. I was gonna say, you got me, once you said porn, I was like, I think we have to do it now. Right, all right, well we'll check with the higher ups. We might have to license whosoever art it was, because they really spent a lot of time turning Jordan into me. We'd also probably have to ask Johnny C. I'm not sure Johnny C. would be down, but we could ask him.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Why not? It's a mug. I know, but I'm not sure he wants a mug of us banging, but I'm not sure he wants a mug of us banging, but I do. And towels. Let me ask- We need to make a beach towel. What? Do you think Jordan and Cox are into some like kinky shit?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Because- Yes. Because I'm going to, I'm going to tell you something right now. She says your name. Yeah, but she's just fucking with him because he's got a hang up about the fact that we had sex. I don't know, man. That would turn me off right then and there if I was.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Of course it would. Of course it would. If I found out that Casey, right before we hooked up, had sex with one of my best friends and they kept it a secret, but I was still in love with her and I went back to the well. Yep. And when I went back to the well, she called me your name. She was like, Oh, Zach.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I'd be like, Oh, no, no, no, that's it. I can't do this. No, but yeah, I think we've established that they're into kinky shit. I mean, I think it's been tamed down for network TV, but I think it's implied that they're into some bondage probably and some twisted shit. Isn't there a fantasy once where Franklin,
Starting point is 00:40:00 our AD was in a leather gimp suit where Marty, the smaller janitor, I think he jumps out and he's a part of the sex fantasy. Do you remember this at all? I do remember this and he punches somebody in the nuts. He punches me in the nuts, but that's a different fantasy. Marty was in a few fantasies. I thought he always punched you in the nuts.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I thought that was the... That was his what you're talking about, Willis, punching you in the nuts. Punching you in the ding. So I wear a thong at 603. I'd like to go back also. Go ahead. When he comes, when Dr. Cox comes out of the room
Starting point is 00:40:31 and Jordan walks one way and he walks to Carla and he goes, and she's like, whatever it is that you guys were doing in there, I don't want to know about it. He goes, why can't people have a conversation in an empty room? And she goes, that room's not empty. I laughed so hard when he looks back into the room and the man's in the bed with the biggest smile on his face. That man saw some action.
Starting point is 00:40:53 He saw a lot of action. Yeah, that's funny. But also the thong, I got a thong and it was my first and only time ever wearing a woman's thong. So that was a good life experience. You know, when you get to be an actor, you get to try lots of different things. Some people become, you know, skilled with firearms.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Some people become expert boat rowers or bike riders. Yeah, some people become skilled at archery because they're doing sort of a Game of Thrones type thing. Right, right, right. And I got to wear a woman's thong. And it felt nice on my package. It looked good on you too. Thank you. I never thought of you as a person with a nice booty. Yeah. Thank you. Well, it's small. I think you have to be into a small bottom. Some people like junk in the trunk and some people like a shelf like God gave you
Starting point is 00:41:45 Right and then there are people that like something firm and small and that's what I offer to the world You do have a very tiny booty. It's like yeah by four ish, but it's hard It's like a it's like like like mutton like mutton. It's firm like what we don't even know mutton's firm We never figured it out. It's very to mutton's very tender so what about when the janitor, speaking of the gay themes of this episode, when the janitor tries to set me up with Tim. Raul! Who was Raul, who was Bill Lawrence's assistant at the time. Was he Bill Lawrence's assistant? Or was he... Yeah, he was Bill Lawrence's assistant.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah, he was Bill Lawrence's assistant. Because Danny got promoted. Yep, and he was a very handsome man. One of the most handsome men I've ever seen in my life, Raul. Yep, Raul. And so he did a cameo as my handsome date, thanks to the janitor named Tim. And then I go, I'm not gay.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And he goes, oh, oh, I get it. Neither's Tim. Hey! That was funny. Yeah it was. Neil had some funny stuff in this episode. I laughed my ass off when he walks in the room, all right, what do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:42:52 You want me to knock him out? Yeah, and then he's like, oh, you're saying that you can do what I can do and I can't do what you can? And I'm like, yes! He goes, well, how would you get coffee up off a tiled floor? And I'm like, the rough side of a sponge? And he's like, damn it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:43:10 It was a funny episode, man. And then we have Ted's band. By the way, how great is, at 844, we got Ted's band singing Facts of Life in the elevator. Right. This show starts with Kelso. One of the things that I left out in my summary is that this whole show is really about Johnny and Jordan.
Starting point is 00:43:35 As much as it's about the three of us in the hospital, it's really about Cox and Jordan and how they're going to make this relationship work. Now, I remember Bill talking early on in the podcast when we first started about the will they or won't they? And I got it, but I never really understood. You know, I just didn't think there was a lot of story of Johnny and, sorry, of Cox and Jordan. And there's quite a bit of story of Cox and Jordan, especially now, because now I know what's gonna happen. She's gonna get pregnant soon and all of these things, but I thought it was really, I would have watched that show,
Starting point is 00:44:17 the Cox and Jordan show also, because they do such a great job at these characters and playing this role. Anyway. I had forgotten that there was so much of Johnny's love life in the show. I mean, Johnny has a whole, there's always this plot about his love of Carla,
Starting point is 00:44:36 his love of Jordan. As we go on further, he's gonna start dating other women on the show. But anyway, so my point was, is that Kelso wants Cox to give a speech before he accepts an award at the end of the show. And he's like, why don't you ask your lackey?
Starting point is 00:44:53 Why don't you ask Ted? And he goes, Ted's not an impressive person. And then for the rest of the episode, Ted's so impressive. Oh, that's funny. You know what I mean? Oh, that's interesting. I never saw that. That's clever. He's's funny. You know what I mean? Oh, that's interesting. I never saw that. That's clever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:05 He's so impressive as that, you know what I mean? From doing Facts of Life, Charles in Charge. Six Million Dollar Man. Six Million Dollar Man. But I got to say, Sammy's voice, it's so good. There's times when he's singing and it's funny and you're enjoying the humor of them singing. But in this episode, I mean, granted, he's sitting there singing the fucking Facts of
Starting point is 00:45:33 Life theme song and I'm watching it going, holy shit, he has such a good voice and he's singing so high. Yeah. You know? You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have the facts of life. Bah bah, facts of da, da, da. Damn, you gotta grow and show you're growing now,
Starting point is 00:45:52 you know about the fact. Bah bah, bah. It was amazing. But he's been a boy. When the world never seems to be living up to your dreams, suddenly you're finding out the facts of life are all about you. Who?
Starting point is 00:46:08 All about you. You. And then I go, me? All about you. It takes a lot to get them right. Sammy goes way higher than that. Cause you're more of a baritone. He's more of a tenor.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Well, he crushes it. When he goes, when you're learning the facts of life. That was amazing. That was amazing. And then when Charles, they bust out into Charles in Charge. Yes, Charles. I like the guy who's doing the deep part, he's like, Charles. Charles in Charge. Charles. Charles. It's always funny when you listen to an acapella group just to focus on what the bass guy's doing. He's always doing something like, Charles, Charles, Charles.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Well, he crushed it. And then I got one question. Where the hell did that trash can come from at the end of the episode? Yeah, why are they burning? It's supposed to be like, you know, out of the movies when the- It's like Rocky when he's walking down the street
Starting point is 00:47:04 in Philadelphia and his brother's singing at the trash can. This is like one of those things where the show, that technically should be in a fantasy because they're really not singing around a fire barrel at the hospital, but it sort of rides the line of like, they found a barrel and lit it on fire next to the hospital. Right at the rim. At the rim. He's like, listen, he won't be here for another hour.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Let's just fucking start a fire. Let's start a fire in front of the hospital. We'll sing in front of it and that'll be it. I laughed so hard, like, where the hell did the trash can come from? What about when you're in the clinic and you say, that's not enough Tylenol for a woman your size and she punches you in the face. He had it coming. This is what I'm talking about. Turk
Starting point is 00:47:50 was a dick in this episode. Well, it was, we were showing the bill was showing that some surgeons stereotypically, including Turk are very cocky and he needed to, he needed to check himself a little bit by getting punched in the face. He wasn't just cocky. He was kind of a dick. I mean, I just, I mean, cocky is like, I'm the best at this. He was just insulting people. Well, he would, yeah. Yeah. But hey, you know. And then what about when the janitor, when the janitor goes, you rang like Lurch from the Adams family? I so want him to leave me alone that I accidentally,
Starting point is 00:48:26 on purpose, hung my stethoscope from the ceiling. Right, could you get that for me? And he goes, we're even. And it's all because you took Splinter out of his foot in the beginning of the show. What about when they're doing Six Million Dollar Man, and Sam goes, your juh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuhs could be louder?
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah. Do you remember what it used to be? What? Do you remember watching that when they did it? He goes it's Jenna Nenene bitch. Oh, yeah, I Remember that but why were we there? Why were they there watching because we're in the scene we're pushing the gurney down the And then they come out of the elevator. Ba ba ba ba. I remember.
Starting point is 00:49:06 We were there, everyone, whenever Sam's band would sing, everyone would kind of gather around, because it was so funny. And I remember, you're right, Don, good memory, that they were like, there were all these funny options that Bill didn't use, but one of them was, it's jenna na na na na na na, bitch. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha was it's J'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N'N I love that they should have put that in. So good.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world
Starting point is 00:50:08 as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend, and I found his piss jar in our apartment.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:50 It's the one with the green guy on it. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte? What we have all been waiting for. Sarah Jessica Parker is here and she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill you in.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And that you're going to fill me in. Yes. But then you forgot about it? I completely forgot about it. In the very long time they took to pick us up. And she reveals what she thought when she read the script for Sex and the City the very first time. He said he wrote this like I was in his head in some way,
Starting point is 00:51:27 which I found really interesting. And does she think Carrie is too good for Mr. Big? She had inexplicable feelings. Got it. It is a human being that can't explain to her friends why somebody that might be beneath her Yes. is dictating the hunt.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You can't miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte? on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pippman, Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. On this week's episode of Math and Magic, I'm sitting down with the one and only Bobby Bones. We're exploring the power of audio.
Starting point is 00:52:03 The word on the street then was, he's too country for pop. But then once I got to country, it was he's too pop for country. So I kind of never really had a place to fit in, but that's exactly how and why I fit. I just embraced that. Like, yeah, I don't fit into one specific hole.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I think that is what endeared me to listeners. That's why I'm here now, because I talk to people that grew up like me, have sensibilities like me, and have loyalties like me. Listen to Math & Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have a question for you, and I want you to be honest with me. How are you?
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's a really hard question to ask, it's a harder one to answer, but taking care of our mental wellbeing has never been more important. All of May is Mental Health Awareness Month and on the Psychology of Your 20s podcast we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about and all the science and psychology behind some of life's hardest moments and transitions. Prepare for our conversations to go deep. Everything from grief to heartbreak, career burnout, anxiety, all of the things that you would only talk about with your closest friends.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I spent the majority of my teenage years and my twenties just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. I spent the majority of my teenage years and my twenties just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend. So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of yourself and your brain. Listen to the psychology of your twenties on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
Starting point is 00:53:41 wherever you get your podcasts. I want to digress for a moment and talk about another topic that's been on my mind. It got upstaged by all that happened in the real world. Oh, here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, get your phones, whatever you're listening to this podcast, get it ready, because it's time. It's time to pay the piper, motherfucker. Let's go. Did you watch Remember the Titans?
Starting point is 00:54:13 I did. I did. He took his earphones off. You had to sit back and put your earphones on? Uh-huh. I have to, I'm going to be sincere right now, okay? I am sorry to you that I never watched this movie because I loved this movie. Right on.
Starting point is 00:54:33 And I cried multiple times. You don't need to know anything about football to be moved by this movie. It's funny, I was, I don't know anything about football and my girlfriend who's British doesn't know anything about American football and we both were sitting there sobbing. And I just have to say, and this is no bullshit, you are such a good actor. I really mean it. I'm not just saying this because I love you. I was watching the movie just as a film and being so moved, I thought everyone was really, really good and there's so much talent. Wood, what's his last name?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Harris. Wood Harris is extraordinary too. And everybody, there's a lot of great actors. But of course I was most focused on you. And I just thought, I kept thinking, holy shit, Donald, as successful as you've been in your career, I believe that you are a very underappreciated actor. I appreciate you for saying that.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I think that you become most known for your comedy because you're very funny. But in this movie, your dramatic acting is so good. And there you are toe to toe to Denzel, who some believe to be the greatest living actor right now. I'm one of those people. And you are toe to toe with him and incredible and improvising. That whole thing with the smile was so good. What was that you, I asked you about it and what, what, what, what of that was written
Starting point is 00:55:58 because you were, it just looks so real and you look so genuinely fucking nervous. That we, you know, most of that was actually written. A lot of it was written. real and you look so genuinely fucking nervous. Most of that was actually written, a lot of it was written. Some of it was improvised and stuff like that. But I got to tell you right now, when you're playing basketball with Michael Jordan, you can't help but make a layup or two. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And that's what happens when you're working with Denzel Washington. You can't help but freaking score the ball. You know. One, you don't want to let him down. And two, yeah, you rise to the occasion. Yeah. It's like that hackneyed expression always says, people always say, if you want to get better at tennis, play with someone who's better than you. And I feel that too, when I'm acting with people... I just did this film with De Niro and there he is screaming in my face and I'm like, you can't help but react. I mean, you're gonna be as, it actually makes acting so much easier because the person's so fucking good,
Starting point is 00:56:49 you're just gonna naturally react. But you, there were so many moments, we paused it a few times when your abs were on screen because holy shit, your stomach, dude. That was back when I weighed 175. I just think that, you don't have to go that hardcore, because that was probably a lot of work. But you looked really good.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, that was back when I was 25 and weighed 175. Well, I'm just wanting you to know, Flo and I paused. We zoomed in. When I say zoomed in, I mean we were taking video of it on our phones and zoomed into your abs. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. I'm just happy you watched it. I'm going to be honest
Starting point is 00:57:28 with you, man. I'm happy you watched it. No, and I'm sorry. No bullshit. It's been a joke amongst us for so long that I've never seen this film. And then I finally said, this is crazy. I'm being shamed on the podcast. I have to watch it. And then I watched it and I loved it. You know, it's got, I loved, I think it's beautifully shot. I loved the score was really moving. The, just the, you know, Denzel, I mean, I could watch Denzel read the phone book. I'm just so entranced by him. And of course the message, which, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:57 of course couldn't be more relevant to today. And it's just so moving. It's so, it's so exciting. And by the way, very hard to tell the story of a full football season in a two hour movie. I remember thinking, how are they going to do that? I thought that was done really well. Ryan Gosling, it's funny, he's become such a giant star, but he has a pretty small part in the film.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Was he not a big star yet? I didn't really know where he was in his career. He had done like Young Hercules and the Mickey Mouse Club and stuff like that. But I remember when we were working with him, he was 17 and we were all grown men, right? All of us, everyone else was grown except for Gosling. And he was the one that we all wanted to hang out with though.
Starting point is 00:58:44 You know what I mean? Him and Wood, Wood and Gosling was the one that we all wanted to hang out with though, you know what I mean? Him and Wood. Wood and Gosling were the two people that it was like. And Ethan also. When I woke up, I would check to see if they were working and if they weren't working, if the three of them weren't working or one of them wasn't working, I would go and hang out with one of them. I love Ryan Hirsch too, but he worked a lot when we were making this. And Ethan Sopliet, I think he lost all that weight, huh? Yeah, he's jacked now. He's like this ripped. Is he ripped?
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah, he's like- I remember reading that he lost it all. No, he's like a gym rat now too. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Wood Harris, I mean, I saw him on The Wire, but maybe- I was going to say that too. You know, before you saw the movie, I mean, I saw him on The Wire, but maybe... I was gonna say that too. Before you saw the movie, I had a part in your upcoming movie.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Before you saw Remember the Titans, I had a part in your upcoming movie. I feel like I lost that role to Wood Harris now that you've seen Remember the Titans. No, I don't. No, it's funny. You're so sweet. I was telling Donald on the phone about how much I love this, and I was talking about Wood Harris, and he was like, he's like, I'll give you his number if you want to put him in your film.
Starting point is 00:59:52 And I was like, that's just, it says so much about who you are that you're going to plug a friend of yours. Man, that guy's talented. I want to see more of his work. I literally looked him up because I just thought... I thought he... How is he not a big movie star right now? That's what I said to Florence. I was looked him up because I just thought, I thought he... Yeah, like how is he not a big movie star right now? That's what I said to Florence. I was like, how... I know this guy works a lot. He was
Starting point is 01:00:10 on The Wire and IMDb'd him so I saw all his work. But I mean, this guy, I was like, this guy should be a household name. Yeah, he's amazing. So, so for those of you idiots that haven't watched Remember the Titans out there... Tell them! Tell them! You need to go check yourself. Check yourself! Because no, it's really, really good and very moving and great to show your kids. Tell them, tell them. You need to go check yourself. Check yourself. Because no, it's really, really good and very moving
Starting point is 01:00:28 and great to show your kids. I mean, what a great film for, it's so PG that kids can see it and it has such a beautiful message of unity, especially during this time when we continue to battle so many civil rights problems. So I thought we're gonna go a little short today because if that's okay, I'm sorry to let you fans down, but I think I could muster an hour of being jovial, but I might go fetal
Starting point is 01:00:53 for a little bit now. But we love you. We're so glad you're listening. I wanted to end the show, if it's all right with you, Donald, with playing Nick's song. Oh, that'd be great. I'd love that. Are we going gonna play the Outro and then go into it. Are we gonna why don't you five six seven eight in the next song? I
Starting point is 01:01:11 Like that. How about that to shake it up? I like that. I like that Um, I hope I hope I hope you guys are ready for this this is Live your life by Nick Codero. Yeah, so you can get this, you're gonna love this song and you can get it yourself on wherever you can buy songs or stream songs, Apple, Spotify, wherever, iHeart, I'm sure, wherever you get it.
Starting point is 01:01:36 It is such a good song. And Nick came out here to LA to start a music career and he only was able to release one song before everything happened. And ironically or beautifully or coincidentally or whatever the correct word is, it's a beautiful song about celebrating your life. So go out there and celebrate your health and your loved ones. And Donald and I really appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And go get the new ringtone and go get the mm-hmm and have it be your notification alert. And Donald, I love you very much. I love you too, man. I don't think we tell each other enough, but I wanna tell you right now, I love you so much, man. I love you, you mean, you matter a lot to me and you're a very important person in my life.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Joelle and Danel, we're grateful for you. I'm grateful. And Thursday, we will be back with more Pep in our step and we will have the legendary Ken Jenkins. So Donald, count us in to Live Your Life by the late Nick Cordero. Five, six, 7, 8 You've made your mind I wish you well, but won't be on the other side Biding my time Living life
Starting point is 01:03:21 You've got your plans, I got mine Who understands how stars align? If one should impass, then I'll consider it a sign That you're still alive Live your life And it's alright, live your life Like you've got one night, live your life I learned the rules from a friend of mine
Starting point is 01:04:16 Don't suffer fools and you'll be fine Just be yourself, your mind gets left like it's a crime Don't you dare night, live your life Cause it's alright, live your life Like you've got one night, live your life You live and learn and then come up the other side And make more white, live your life Beside a big, white You could die It's alright, live your life Like you got war Night, live your life They'll give you hell
Starting point is 01:05:55 But don't you let them kill your life Not without a fight Live your life I'm not allowed to fight Living a life I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take phone calls from anonymous strangers as a fake gecko therapist and try to learn a little bit about their lives.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's very interesting. Check it out for yourself by searching for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? Because it's a question that we rarely ask ourselves. All of May is actually Mental Health Awareness Month, and on the psychology of your 20s, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Prepare for our conversations to go deep. I spent the majority of my teenage years and my 20s just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend. So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of your wellbeing. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 01:07:30 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte? Sarah Jessica Parker is here, and she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill you in.
Starting point is 01:07:49 That you're going to fill me in. Yes. But then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up. I completely forgot about it. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think it's a sign of great mental health
Starting point is 01:08:04 to acknowledge the dark wolf inside you. It's Mental Health Awareness Month and on a recent episode of The One You Feed, Josh Radner from How I Met Your Mother joins us to talk about fame, self-acceptance, aging, and finding peace in discomfort. That is the mercy of time, that time, it is a healer. To hear this and more on healing, identity, and the wisdom of slowing down, open your free iHeart radio app, search one you feed, and listen now. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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