Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic: 203 - My Case Study With Ken Jenkins

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

On this weeks episode, JD defies Dr. Cox's wishes and strives for success in a competition Dr. Kelso is running amongst the residence. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by Kelso himself, Ken Jenkins.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey guys. There he is. Hi. There he is. How are you? I'm great, how are you? How are you, Darrell Faison? I'm well, how are you? Well, you know How are you, Donald Faison? I am well. How are you?

Well, you know, the world spins madly on. It does spin madly on and at a furious pace too. It just keeps going and you just keep moving forward. That's all you can do really. You know what's passing. Akuna Matata, Lion King says it best. What's in the past is the past. Let's talk about moving forward into the future and making it so that the past never,

all the negative things I should say in the past, never repeat themselves. The planet spins and the world spins madly on. Joel, Dan, how are you guys? You know, I realized that when I log on, we usually just jump right into the show and I never really get the opportunity to ask you guys, how are you doing? How are you holding up? Well, it's good. I'm still inside. Sleep is a myth. There's no such thing as sleep anymore.

Insomnia, full force. But other than that, you know, it's good. I was able to leave the house. I went to a drive-in. You guys been to the Mission Hill Tiki drive-in? No. No. Listen, if you need to get out and you wanna see a movie,

that's the place to do it. They've got all these old burger joint stands around there so you can pick up some food through a drive-through, drive straight into the drive-through. It's a bunch of billboards that are sectioned off and we saw a double feature of jaws and tremors. That was really lovely. Well jaws, yes. Tremors, it was okay. It was okay. It's okay. Jaws however, still to this day, even though the shark doesn't look that real, it still works.

Yeah. The whole opening the beach early, like the beaches are safe. Right. Right. It's a very surreal rewatch in these areas. Yeah. Dan, how about you? How are you? I'm good.

I'm well. Uh, I, uh, had to, uh, take my, uh, take my girlfriend to the airport this morning very early to help her brother get out or move out of college, but she's doing a good thing. And yeah, so all good. Ready for a great show. What's that line from when Harry met Sally? You know, I never take a girl to the airport

because then they expect things out of you. And then later on, you're what they, then later on, then later on, she I never do airport drops. I don't fuck with airport drops because then later on, she says to you, how come you never take me to the airport anymore? Great.

So you just say goodbye at home? Yeah, I don't take to or pick up from airport as a rule. My boy. OK, cool. I did it. I did it quite a bit when Casey and I first started dating. Now I'm like, you know what? I'll get you a car service. Yeah. It'll be so much easier.

I'd rather get you a really nice car service. Um, he'll probably have mints. Right. And water and a clean car. But Florence has a hangup about it. She really finds it, uh, rude. So I'm going to, I have a feeling it's going to be changing because she thinks that it's bullshit.

I'm telling you once you stop doing it, she's going to ask you, how come you never take me to the airport anymore? I know, but see LAX is so fucking far. I mean, I'm sure a lot of listeners may live closer to their airport than we do. It takes like over an hour to get to LAX. It's a lot. It's a mission every time. And then you have to deal with the traffic of that long circle around hellish. You know what you do. I'm going to give everyone a little secret. Well, I shouldn't give my secret. Never mind. Sorry.

I was going to give people of LA a life hack, but now I don't know if I should because they're all going to steal it and use it. Listen, just do it. You'll be a hero if you do it. All right. You guys don't tell anyone. I know that there's a preposterous amount of people listening right now, but don't tell anyone. This is just for you. Do not tell your friends. If you live in LA. If you live in LA. If you don't live in LA and you come here, you're not allowed to do this shit. This is only if you live in LA. When you're dropping off, you go to arrivals, not departures. There's never nearly as long a line at arrivals.

Brilliant. And all you got to do is take the escalator up or down, whatever it is. Now I regret telling everyone that. Are you a genius, Zach? What? Hold on, hold on. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now I regret telling everyone that. Are you a genius, Zach? What? Hold on. Hold on. I regret this already.

It's a mistake. It's a mistake. My life hack is ruined now. I feel like a lot of people already knew this life hack. No, they don't. You don't do it. Did you know it? Yeah, absolutely.

And when you get picked up, you go upstairs to freaking- To departures. To departures, dude. To departures. Yep. Yep. Yeah, man. I dude yep yep yeah man I never do that one I never do it was such a problem that uber won't let you do it anymore you can say hey will you drop me off at arrivals they'll say no we can't do that they're going to give us a ticket if we do that oh I didn't know it was like a ticketed thing so don't get in trouble because of me but

only only ubers get ticketed only ubers get ticketed if you're driving if you're if you're doing a service for a friend that's a really good life hack. Oh, okay. There you go. Life hack, everybody. When you do it, and it goes smoothly, I want you to smile and think of me. Should we get into the show? Well, we have a very special guest today, Donald.

I know. I'm really excited about it. That's why I want to get into the show as soon as possible. I know. I can see that you're all geeked out. We never thought Ken Jenkins would come on the show, not because he's difficult in any way. I just didn't know if he'd know how to do the Zoom and the recording and all of that. But we're so lucky that his son helped him navigate it all. And is he here, Dan? Is he ready to come in the room?

Ready to go. I'm kind of nervous, Donald. I haven't seen him in a long time. Dan, is he ready to come in the room? Ready to go. I'm kind of nervous, Donald. I haven't seen him in a long time. I'm so excited. Last time I saw him was when we did that thing at the Roosevelt Hotel. Yeah. Where I also, where, doesn't he have nine kids happened also in the same, at the same venue, not the same venue, but the same building. Doesn't he have like nine kids? Casey said that about Donald in the bar, which was at the same, not the same venue, but the same- The same building. Building. Doesn't he have like nine kids? Casey said that about Donald in the bar, which was at the time was called Teddy's.

And I think it still is. And then we had sort of a Scrubs reunion event for, what was it for? I don't even remember. I don't know. And we were all there, same building. Same building, I love that bowling alley in the- And there's a cool little bowling alley, Do you ever visit LA just after you've arrived

at the airport and driven an hour? Are we going to ask him about Ganja or should we not bring that up? I mean, I think I feel like we can ask about it. If he doesn't want to talk about it, he doesn't have to talk about it. I know. But I mean, I'm just wanted to just pregame with you if we're going to bring up his love of Ganja. I'm just saying, man, he gave me a Kodak. Remember when Kodak film used to come in those little cases? The black canister thing. Yeah. He gave me a canister full of seeds once and was like, when you plant these now, and I didn't plant them, and I look for this Kodak thing, It's somewhere lost in all of the moves that I've had.

I don't know if they're still going to grow. But still, dude, they were like a lot of seeds and he was like, you got to plant them all. And I was like, you got to plant. Wait, Dan's eyes got really big. Dan, will they still grow? The trivia question I want answered is who was high more often on set, Donald Faison or Ken Jenkins? I bet you it's Ken Jenkins. Okay, let's go to the video tape.

Okay, hold on, here we go. Five, six, seven, eight. Stories about a show we made About a bunch of dogs and nurses And a calendar who loved to hang out I said, here's the stories That we all should know So gather round to hear our

Gather round to hear our Scrubs we watch show with Zach and Donno Mm-hmm There he is Hello handsome Waving your hands Hello There you are.

Can you hear us? Can you see us? Hey, Zachy, how you doing? Hi, buddy. Good to see you. It's good to see you, Ken. It's great to see you. Donald Peson.

Hello, sir. Hello. We're so glad you're doing this, Ken. We really miss you, and we really wanted to have you on the show. Well, I'm glad you asked me. I'm glad to be here. What's that Donald's got all over his face? This is hair.

You know, I couldn't grow it back in the day. Oh, well, that's just hair. That looks great, Donald. It looks good. It took me all pandemic to grow this. Now, listen, does that help your ballgame? No, my ballgame is non-existent now. I now play golf.

My golf game, it helps tremendously. I bet you're a wonderful golfer. I'm all right. I'm all right. I'm getting the hang of it now. You know what I mean? You got already good. You went from zero to hero.

I mean, when I first saw you play, we were together and neither one of us knew what the hell we were doing. And then you got, what's your handicap? Isn't that what you asked someone? Yeah. My handicap's now a 7.9. That's pretty good, right? Now listen, that's realistic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can, at municipal courses, I should say, when we go country club and play country club golf,

it jumps up quite a bit. But for municipal golf courses so far, 7.9. That's wonderful. Good for you. Thank you. Now, were you a golfer? I never played golf in my life until we did that episode out there on the hill. And Ken, you looked good on that episode.

Donald and I were talking about how you looked like you knew what you were doing. You know, that's what they call it, acting. Ha you knew what he was doing. Total fraud, utter fraud. You sold the hell out of it, Ken. Well, you sold it. You sold it. How are you? How are you doing in this crazy time when we're all trapped in our houses? How are you holding up? Well, we're doing great. Catherine and I say our lives inside didn't change very much. We've moved a lot and we embarked on reading books to each other.

Books that we had said we'd read and then you'd ask a question like, yeah, well, what do you remember about it? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. So we started reading big books, Vanity Fair. Nice.

700 pages of Vanity Fair. And you read it out loud to each other? Yes, yes. And now we're seven eighths of the way through Moby Dick. And I think we're only four people in the world have ever read it out loud to each other. And we're about to finish it. I think that's very romantic.

That's a big book, Moby Dick. Yeah, I use it as a step letter when I'm not reading. Ken, you've always struck me as a romantic. Well, I'm romantic, yeah. I mean, I used to be. Now it's just a lot more passive, you know. It's funny because in the episode, I was trying to think as I was watching this episode, it feels like in some episodes Kelso is so smitten and in love with Enid, his wife, and then in other episodes he's so dismissive of her. It goes back and forth. There's episodes where he's just singing old love songs he used to sing to her.

And then there's other episodes where he's just like, oh, she drives me crazy, I can't stand Enid. I wonder what you thought about, if Kelso, what his feelings for Enid were. You know, it's funny, isn't it? You're watching the show develop over all the years and Bill would say every year, well, we're gonna give you a real life, Ken, don't worry.

He's gonna... He's gonna... And so you never knew what to play as, how do you feel about the wife? And I don't know, I think it was very complex. The way it developed was very complex. But in it aside, the one time I thought we really got into what Kelso felt about love was when Nurse

Roberts died. There's that moment when I'm in the room with her and I think you're looking through the glass and I just bend over and give her this tiny little kiss. You knew there was something there that for all the wise cracking and in this episode we're doing today the smart ass stuff that beneath all that there was something really deep and human and wonderful and bonding. I was gonna ask you that. Did you think Kelso at one point, I mean it's clear that he obviously was a really

great doctor to get the chief of medicine job. He had to not only be at the hospital for a while, but he had to do good work. You don't get that job just because of being there for a long time. Do you think somewhere along the line Kelso was broken? broken. And that's why he became the ball buster and someone who was just all about insurance and that was it. Do you think at some point, Kelso was like, you know what, everything that I've been doing, because you're right, he does have so many lovable moments throughout the series. The Tuscaloosa heart episode where he's singing to his, his, his, the love of his life.

And it turns out to be Enid, you know, the fact that he's definitely willing to give out rewards and stuff like that. He just doesn't want everybody to come and ask him over and over again for things. So I'm asking, at some point, do you think he was broken? I don't know about that, but I think what he did learn, as all doctors seem to learn, and especially right now in all this COVID mess, what they have to see daily and the

front line workers have to see daily, what they have to do is put their feelings somewhere else and go on with the job. And I think in Kelso's position as an administrator, what happens with your feelings is you crust them over. You just develop a rind on the outside of it. Someone dies and you go on. it. Someone dies and you go on. It had some, another person dies and you go on because you have to keep going.

Someone in his position, you'd think has to just develop a rind, like you said, in order to try and run that place. Especially, you know, keep in mind that Sacred Heart was meant to be a poorer city hospital that didn't have a lot of resources. So he, you know, in his defense, he was trying to keep the doors open to the place, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. I think that's, I think that's right. And I'm sure you're right, Donald, in the sense that he was probably idealistic in the same way Turk and JD are idealistic. They're young. They have a mission. They think well ofistic. They're young, they have a mission, they think well of themselves, they're looking at their future. Kelso was young once, 4800 years ago.

Hey Ken, I wanted to say that you, Bill wrote you sort of one note in the beginning. You know, if you look at the pilot, he's just sort of like the bad guy. He literally has like the blood red eyes and there's a devil. And then as we're seeing now, and you played it so wonderfully, Ken, you're so... You're so amazing. You're so funny. You're so wonderful. But my point was that now in season two, which we just started, you're getting to see where Bill really starts to give him lots more layers, I think.

Didn't you feel that way? I felt like in season one, there was so much to tackle. And of course, they're setting up the young wide-eyed interns and their relationships and everything. And Kelso was just like the bad guy. And now I start to see, and of course, I know that this goes throughout the nine years, that you really start to see it develop. the nine years, that you really start to see it develop. I didn't remember that it happened this soon. My memory of season one is being, God, I'm over the top on every scene I'm doing. I hated it, I hated everything I was doing.

I thought the timing was all right, but I thought it's just a thousand times too much. Can't you pull back? No, I can't. I can't. I don't know where else to go. And I looked at this episode and I went, this is just the beginning of season two. And everybody is back in another deep, wonderful groove. This is an incredibly good episode. Yeah, it really is, Ken. That's one of the reasons we wanted to have you on, because not only is it a really, really good one,

but you have so much fun stuff to play in this one. And we were excited to talk to you about all of it. But before we dive into the episode itself, Ken, we've had every other one of the leads on the podcast so far. And we always kind of start with telling that people excuse me we always ask everyone their their audition story how they how they came about to be on scrubs do you recall like how that all how that

transpired what your audition process was like for the show I don't know it was you go in you do auditions you know and and this one I went in and there were two or three guys I knew who were out there who were all terrific actors and you never think you're gonna get a part. You don't feel, well, this is my part. But I went in and read and Bill was standing over in the back and he laughed.

And I thought, well, that's a generous thing for him to do. He's helping out in the audition. That was really nice of him. And I went away feeling that was really nice. And then when I went in the second time, he was there and he laughed again, only bigger. And I thought, oh, I got a chance at this. Yeah, you start to get excited, right? Yeah, you do. And then the journey in my mind was you have a good audition, you get the part. And then that first episode, I looked at it, the pilot, and I thought, man, he should fire

me. This is really awful. Really? Really? You didn't like it? The eyes spinning round and round. But you didn't, that was written, that wasn't your acting. I thought you were great in the pilot.

Did you not like your performance in the pilot? I hated it. But somebody gave me a wonderful out. They said, Ken, all that over the top stuff you were obviously doing in season one, that's just the way JD was seeing you. Oh, there you go. And then as he saw you multi-dimensional, the way you see Cox in this episode,

that's a wonderful scene with Cox. I wanna be just like you, only more successful. That scene is brilliant. What a good scene. And you guys are so good, you kill that scene. It's wonderful. Ken, when you give me compliments, I have to tell you, it's a special place in my heart. It means so much to me because I respect you so much as an actor. And you may have thought you were broad and perhaps the part called for that particularly early on. But I want you to know,

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Oh, that's a good technique. I hear that. That's true. I remember when we were doing Scrubs, and I guess it was, it's Courage Under Fire, am I correct? Yeah. And I remember seeing it,

and we had already started shooting, and I finally saw the movie, and you're in the movie with the scene with Denzel Washington, and you two are having dialogue and everything like that. And that was when I first realized, I was like, oh, snap. Ken had a life well before Scrubs. Ken was doing things way before.

You thought Scrubs was Ken's first job? No, I didn't think that, but I, you know, I'm a, you know, dumb, naive actor who's all about himself and everything like that. And that's when the world really, you know, the world started opening up when I started doing Scrubs and realizing that. And that's when the world really, you know, the world started opening up when I started doing scrubs and realizing that, wow, people, I'm not, you know, it's not just me,

there's other people involved in this whole situation. And Ken, holy cow, dude. Well, we all feel like that, don't we? It's natural. You look at a script and what does any actor do when he looks at his script? We all know this joke. You start leafing through the script.

Bullshit, bullshit, my line. Bullshit, bullshit, my line. Right? Yeah, absolutely. You have been blessed though, Ken, to have just an incredible amount of work that you've done over the years. That's just luck.

It's just a numbers game. You learn the words, you don't trip over the furniture, and you're gonna get some of them, that's all. Well, I think you're being modest. No, I'm not gonna be modest. I think I'm very good in this episode. I think it's very smart of you to have me for this episode. You are. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. I wanted to say, first of all, Kent, I have a funny memory of... I don't know if you guys have

this thing in your life where someone tells you an anecdote about a specific thing, and then every time you think of that thing, you think of the person. And one of mine is you, Ken. When we first all started making some real money, I said to you, Ken, are you splurging on anything? Are you treating yourself to anything fun? And you said something to the effect of, not really, but I have noticed that I'm changing my razor blade a bit more frequently. And I thought that was so humble and sweet. And now when I'm looking at my razor blade, I go, damn it, when was the last time I changed this? I probably should, and I always invariably think of you.

That's funny, Zach, that's funny. Donald and I were out there. I'm still cheap about razor blades. Well, don't be, don't be. I want you to know that I change mine way more frequently because of Ken Jenkins. So Donald had braces on Ken. I don't know if you recall this, but he decided to get braces on the inside of his teeth for season two. And we've been discussing in other episodes whether or not you can hear him lisp or not, because Bill eventually told him to

take the damn things off. This episode could be called The Lisp-er. Oh my God, I can't even, my mouth is even like- You can't talk. No, not at all. Well, at this point, it was brought to my attention, Bill's gonna tell you to take the braces off. And I was like, oh no, how am I gonna,

I gotta, I gotta, I gotta enunciate my words a little bit better, I gotta pronounce- Oh, you made it worse, you made it worse. I made it so much worse. What? What? I missed this whole thing. Well, Ken, you weren't looking out for it.

I'm sure if you weren't looking out for it, you perhaps wouldn't notice it, but it's on our minds because we've been talking about whether or not we can hear it. And I haven't noticed it, Donald, to be honest. I wonder if what you're saying is true, that you said, oh, I have to over-enunciate, I have to compensate or something. Cause to me it was like, it sounded like you

had something in your mouth. Yeah. And that was braces. Wow. You mean in that scene where you asked me for the thing you have braces in? Absolutely. Yes. Oh yeah. Oh, it's like, it's like class. I can't listen. Is there anywhere I could get a laser? I need a laser. Laser. Laser. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

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Well, I just want to say one thing. There's a lot going on in this episode. Well, this is your second time doing this. Are you already afraid of the assignment? No, let's go. Okay, are you ready? We're going to have 30 seconds on the clock and go. We start off this episode with Kelso challenging all of the medical interns to come up with an interesting patient for the AMA conference. That sets the hospital ablaze.

It causes friction between John C McGinley's character and Zach's character in the movie. Sarah and Judy, their characters don't know if they really get along and Turk wants a laser. At the end of the episode, we find out that Dr. Kelso is a sweetheart and will actually grant you a wish if you come to him secretly. That being said, that's my 30 seconds. You got most of it. 31. You got most of it. Most of it. Now look, well here's the thing though. It's hard to get into the most

important part of the show. And that's Kelso turning into the biggest sweetheart by choice! Once every year. Yes. But your 30 seconds are over. So I don't know know is this the addendum is this the right?

This is the prologue the prologue the prologue the the epilogue the epilogue the epilogue the epilogue All right. Well, yeah, I give you credit for doing that Donald That's to get to get that much of it in in 30 seconds. This is a big episode It is not ABC story. It's overlapping arcs in different directions. So much stuff going on. It was directed by Michael Spiller, one of our favorites, Ken, right? We always loved Michael Spiller. Loved Michael.

And back to the old credits. If you recall, in season two, Ken, you remember we had to reshoot the beautiful credit sequence, and then they wanted to add Neil to the credits, so we reshot them, and then the song was slower, and the fans really didn't like it, and so I think that that's it for the old credit sequence. This, I think as far as this one, we're back to it. Do I, can I ask you questions about this episode since you remember things this episode? Absolutely. Neil is still in your

head. Janet is still just in your head in this episode, right? Nobody else interacts with him. That's a good question, Ken. We've debated that. Bill sort of game with that, we thought was mostly season one. I think as far as season two, he has begun to talk to other people, but in this episode, this particular one, he only interacts with me. Well, so far throughout the season, he's only talked to you. He hasn't talked to anyone else. It's only been you so far this season. No, I think that's wrong. I think he spoke to Ken or someone in an

earlier... Yeah, I don't remember. Let's find out. Maybe this is a time to ask Scrubs Wiki. Oh, I'm nervous about asking Scrubs Wiki. So Ken, we have this Wikipedia site. Well, it's not a Wikipedia site. This guy, Trevor, he runs a Scrubs Wikipedia site pretty much where you ask, you type in a question and all of these answers come up for specific said question. That's not only true at all what you just said. It isn't? No, you don't type in a question. It's like you can look up, okay, episode two of season two, and it tells you different,

you probably never looked at the damn thing, have you? I've never looked at Scrum Wiki in my life. Oh my God, we've been talking about it for so long, you never even looked at it. Listen to me. Fake it till you're naked. It would be a lot. I love that in your mind it's like,

so all you do, Ken, is you type in a question, and it comes up with an answer. That's not at all what it is. That should be what it is. Scrubb Wiki needs to get their game right. That's a better... It should be the Google of Scrubs. You need to make your own web page.

This is just, Ken, it's just like someone has curated this page where it breaks down every episode, and it tells you the guest stars, it tells you a summary, it tells you some trivia, it tells you continuity errors, and it's become a good resource for us. I don't think it's a good resource anymore. If I can't call it and ask it questions, then it answered my question.

Well, that's why we have asked Trevor, asked Trevor Wiki. Okay, let me ask Trevor Wiki. Trevor Wiki, so far this season, in my recollection, the janitor has talked only to JD. Is this true? And if it is true, when does the janitor actually start to interact in the story where his story lines are intertwined with the rest of the cast? I have a feeling that it's Ken Jenkins.

I have a feeling, and I want Trevor Wiki to answer this, that the Janitor says something to me, and it makes Ken slash Dr. Kelso laugh. But we'll see. Trevor? Howdy, guys. In season two, Janitor still mostly only interacts with JD. In the next episode, My Big Mouth,

Janitor partners with Troy, but it's not until My Karma where Janitor starts interacting with other main characters. All right, let's get into the episode. So 152, I thought it was hilarious that JD, you don't know what JD is daydreaming about. And you go to him because the woman says, is he always daydreaming there? And it turns out, we reveal that he's daydreaming about having that beautiful Afro that her son has. And I'm bopping my head to that.

That made me laugh out loud. You would love it Afro. Can I tell you my favorite line in this episode so we don't lose it? Yeah. It's in the scene with Donald and Judy. A beautiful, sweet little scene. And he looks up and says something to the heavens.

And Judy says, this is my favorite line. Baby, you know I don't like you talking to God while we're having a discussion. That is funny. Well, we all do it though, but we all do it. We all do it. Everybody but we all do it. We all do it. We all do it. Everybody does it. Everybody does it. At some point, when in a discussion that you're uncomfortable with, there's that look to the

heavens like, why God? Why? Why are you doing this to me right now? It happens all the time. I've caught my wife doing it to me. Like, I'm like... When she... She even puts her fist, grabs her fist and hits them together. Why? Yeah, it's true. It's true. That is a great line. And we reveal the Turk is still religious because, you know, we had asked early in season one, and he's quite religious. Not that you need to be religious to talk to God, but it does seem like

we had asked earlier, like, oh, do we stay with that? Does Turk keep a relationship with God? And here he is talking to God. I want to jump back to the beginning of the episode. When the show very first starts, it cuts to an exterior shot of our apartment. Yeah, very rare. And then when it cuts into the apartment, it kind of felt a little, it felt very sitcom-y. You know what I mean? And there aren't a lot of moments of this show where I'm like, that's like a sitcom. You know?

We earn our laughs because the laugh track, there's no laugh track to, you know, to, to help you. We earn our laughs. And at that, at that moment I was like, is this one of those moments where we're experimenting still in season two, trying to figure out a way to, cause we're coming on Thursday nights now. And you know, when friends was on, that's always the first shot. It's either central, the central perk or it's their apartment building. And it seemed like that's what we were doing. Do you think it was just the shot of the apartment? Because that's pretty rare for scrubs to open on a shot of the apartment.

It usually opens on a shot of the hospital. Is that what you were sensing, you think? Maybe. Maybe that's what it is. Or maybe, you know, someone, one of the executives at NBC or something was like, well, I don't know where they're starting from. Let's just, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't understand this. I thought it was a joke that didn't quite work.

Yeah. Which one? Okay. But the shot of the apartment, a playoff friends. This is not friends. Boom. It's friends. It's not friends.

Oh, that's very interesting because it opens up and it's the four of us in the in the apartment. I don't understand why you say I'll go get you guys beers and I'm like, I'll come help you. Like, why do you need help grabbing two beers? I don't know. I was just it was a setup to leave them alone and show that they that they have that they're awkward when they're when they're alone together. Right. I have another question. What the heck is an AMA conference? I didn't want to look it up. Right. I have another question. What the heck is an AMA conference? I didn't want to look it up.

I wanted to ask this genuine. The American Medical Association, Donald. Okay, got it. Who has- So for all of you out there who didn't know what an AMA conference was and didn't bother to look it up, like me- Yeah, I think some people might be perplexed that you don't know what the AMA is

after playing a fake doctor for nine years, but you know, who knows? Don might be perplexed that you don't know what the AMA is after playing a fake doctor for nine years, but who knows? Don't be perplexed. Do you know? Don't be perplexed. The AMA said that Scrubs was the most medically accurate TV show about doctors. Did you know that? I did know that. I didn't know that the AMA said it. I just thought random doctors said it. No, AMA. That's one of our badges of honor. Okay. My doctor still says, well, what do you think, Ken?

Ken, do you use your Scrubs fame to get special treatment from the doctor? Because we've learned that Bill tells everyone, including his dentist, that he was a creator of Scrubs. My doctors have got too old to understand things like that. They just do what Dr. Kelso did, pay the nurse, pay on your way out. I like it 226 that not only have I just enjoyed a fantasy with the Afro, but I asked the guy, is that easy to manage? Like JD's really asking if he can, if he might want to try a perm. Yes. Also, Ken, I love Al Jarreau. I don't know if you loved Al Jarreau. That's my second favorite joke and the look on the Loma's face when she goes, what? And you say, what is your response to it? Which one is the blind one?

Is he the blind fellow? You mean Ray Charles? That's horrible. And then doesn't Aloma say something like, careful Laverne, you're a saved woman? Yes. Right, yeah, yeah. But I loved me some Al Jarreau. I loved Al Jarreau growing up. He sang some of the greatest songs ever made. One of them...

Like what? What's Al Jarreau's most famous song? I know the name, but I can't think of what an Al Jarreau song is that I would know. We're in this love together. we got the kind that last forever. Also, nobody does it like Sarah Lee. Oh, he did the jingle? No, do you remember when he had his own Sarah Lee commercial? And nobody does it like Sarah Lee.

I do remember. We're in this love together. Got that laugh forever. Tommy Davidson, when I was a kid, had this great stand-up special where he talks about Al Jarreau. Al Jarreau sung the theme song to Moonlighting. Some fly by night. Oh, that's right. Moonlighting strangers who just met on the way, who just met on the way.

Anyway. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Tommy Davison when I was a kid. You got to put a little more, sun, fly, fly by night. Well, listen, Tommy Davison did this whole stand up thing when I was a kid, right? And he would talk about how Al Jarreau could sing his butt off, but would make the craziest faces when he sang. So that to get those sounds and to get that,

that, you know, that kind of twang to his music, some fly by night, some fly by day, he'd make just the faces. And his niece would be like, what's wrong with his face? I loved Al Jarreau. So Ken, you have to kiss this woman's butt. Do you remember if she was really there for your butt kissing scene? You know, you think I'd remember a thing like that, but I honestly don't. I don't remember either. She was good.

I forgot her name. I'll look it up because I'm on this. Marie Cheatham. Oh, nice. Very nice. Yeah. Did you work with her before, Ken? Yes.

Well, we didn't work together, but when I was 17, I was an apprentice at the Alley Theater in Houston, Texas, and Marie was down there. I don't remember whether she was an apprentice too, or whether she was just around in the company or because she's younger than me, I think. But that's where when Robert Foxworth was down there as an apprentice, and Carl and Glenn. Wow.

So, you guys knew each other when you were teenagers. Knoxworth was down there as an apprentice, Carl and Glenn. Wow. So you guys knew each other when you were teenagers. Yeah, but when I was 17, but I hadn't seen her until I was very surprised when there she was on the show. I thought she was very good in there. Yeah, she was great. She was great. She was amazing.

And the banter between all of you guys and the banter with Johnny was really funny too. Oh yeah. The sass and you saying sass, sass, stop saying sass. Stop saying sass, sass. Mike McDonald's back in this episode. Yes, Mike McDonald with a broken penis. Right, and Sarah's imaginary patient with the ass on the front.

That was hilarious. Front butt. That scene with Sarah and Judy, that is just the sweetest little scene when I would kill for your, I would kill for your, and Judy says, I would kill for that wagon, you dragon. Yeah. Sarah gets this blank look on her face. She says, that's your butt.

What's funny is that Sarah didn't really have much of a wagon. I mean, I don't know why Julie. I think that's the actual joke, though. You know, it's very interesting, because women are built different, obviously. And some have junk in the trunk, and some have not a lot of junk in the trunk.

And what I've learned is that, you know, jeans fit different when you have more junk. Like jeans that you see on television and designer jeans, at least when I was growing up, were made for people, were made for people with not a lot of booty. You know what I mean? And so when I would go and buy the jeans that I saw, you know, on television and I put them on, put them on, I had big quads and I have

a very round and big butt. You have a big ass wagon. And so it would be hard to fit into these jeans. And so a lot of these jeans that I had, I'd buy all of these, the brand that was popular at the time, I would buy the jeans and try to fit into them. And they just didn't look as good as they did on other people. And so I would, you know, one of, one of the ways around that is to let the jeans sag off your butt. But, um, I just noticed something that was very crazy about this episode is both Judy and Sarah look amazing in this episode.

They're like fine as fine can be in this episode. Amen. You know what I mean? Judy's hair is out of her face and in your face. You know what I mean? You can really see how beautiful she is. Sarah's hair is done nice and not in her face and you see how beautiful she is. But she's got like the Princess Leia buns on her head. And they're complaining in the episode about, you know, what they wish they had and what they wish they didn't have.

And in my mind, I was like, wow, we have two really beautiful women. But at the end of the day, is that how we all are? Are we all this way in some... Of course, of course. You know what I mean? Everybody has their own insecurities about their physical appearance.

And I think part of the point of the episode was here are these two women that we all would imagine would be perfectly fine with their appearance. And then what they finally bond over is their insecurities. And they can't find anything to talk about. I thought it was a pretty powerful statement, actually. What they're saying is what they finally bond over is their own insecurities about themselves. And then the other one is like, what are you talking about? You have this, you have this. And she's like, what are you talking about? You have this. I wish I had your hair. I wish I had your, you know. So I thought that that was really relatable. A lot of people could go,

oh God, even these women who I perceive as to be so beautiful, battle this, you know? And with the turn with Johnny C with Dr. Cox after your scene and you're telling him you want to be like him only successful. And the last scene is him showing us that he's been kind of braving over his insecurities when he hands the telephone to Marie's character and lets her make the call for him to get him an advance. And I really like that because it was one of the first times in the whole show where

I have had the bravery to do something that affects Dr. Cox. Yeah. You know, I really, that took a lot of chutzpah for JD to do what he did and go against him. But, and of course, to say to your mentor, I want to be you, but a more successful you. Yeah. I mean, that was a really courageous moment for the character. And then I really loved the fact that that went to affect to Dr. Cox. It really made him take action in his own career. It planted a seed in his own mind.

Right. It really planted a seed for the next six years of your relationship with him. Yeah. All right, we have to go to a quick commercial, Ken, because this is like a real show. We have advertisers and everything. So we will be right back after these words.

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He has two in one episode. All in one episode too. Your entrance where you're excited and happy about everything, you know, you're coming and you're dancing and you're excited. That's one of the best entrances in Scrubs history. And then your second entrance, when you come in and you beat the shit out of everybody. I had forgotten about that. One of the best entrances.

I had forgotten about that. Ken, do you remember, you must have done those both the same day, I imagine, there must have been a lot of rehearsal for those sequences. I don't remember. There was very little rehearsal for the happy one because it started downstairs in the entrance, throwing off the cape. And that took a little while to set up. Those scenes always did down there. And then we were up in the hallway.

And that seemed to be almost an improvisation. That was so fast. But on the second hallway scene, that was Ernie. And Ernie was there with those guys and saying, give me a key, and made all those whacks working. And those people doing those enormous reactions from anything I did, that sold that. Just for people that don't know, Ernie was one of our stunt coordinators, and all those people that Ken's interacting with are stunt men and women. And we haven't really given enough shout out to them yet on this show. We prided ourselves on doing a lot of the physical stuff, but the stunt people did a

ton of the stunts on the show, especially stuff that like this moment with Ken, which is, it's like a dancer team, right Ken? It's like a choreographed dancer team. Yeah, I don't like that one. I like the second one. Ernie Orsetti is... No, I mean, Ken, what I meant was that the fight sequence is its own bit of a dancer. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Now listen, is this the only time there were two done in one episode? Ask Trevor the Wiki. Okay, you want to ask Ken?

Good for you. We're good. Ken is calling upon Trevor Wiki. Ken, we are going to ask Trevor Wiki, has there ever been an entrance by one of the characters that's done twice in one episode? You know, in the same hallway we had that... Pimp strut. The one with the pimp strut for Donald and I, which we did twice but separated by many, many episodes.

Yes, Pimp strut was great. Has there ever been an entrance like this in another episode where we did it twice? Over the top entrances are a fun running gag on Scrubs, but Dr. Kelso is the only character to get two grand entrances in one episode. Well, not twice, but I do remember Dick Van Dyke had an entrance very similar to- Why are you helping Trevor Wiki out?

This isn't for you. Because Trevor Wiki doesn't wanna do the job, Zach. No, we don't know. Let's be't for you. Because Trevor Wiki doesn't want to do the job, Zach. No, we don't know. Let me be honest with you. He said he doesn't want to do it. He said he didn't want to do it. No. Joelle said it was a misunderstanding. He does want to do it. We never sent him his gift basket, Joelle. We remind you we have to send him a gift basket. I don't send gift baskets to people who are halfway in and halfway out. You gotta be 100%.

I feel like the gift basket, if well stocked, could put him over the edge. He might be on the fence. So we gotta give him... Listen, man. Yes, we have to bribe him. This is America. What are we gonna bribe him with? This is America. Don't catch me stippin' up. What are we gonna bribe him with? What are we gonna bribe him with? Some salami? Some wine?

Joel, what should we put in the gift basket for Trevor Wiki? We could find out. Just so he can answer these questions. How about scrub swag? I mean, if I was Trevor Wiki, I would want scrub swag. I bet you we could go to Instagram and add, listen, I'm not trying to diss you, Trevor Scrubs Wiki. But if I went to Instagram and asked all of our followers any of these questions, they'd be eager and excited to do it. I'm not trying to help the

situation. I'm trying to tell you guys right now that he don't want to do it. Okay. Well, listen, Trevor Wiki, I apologize on behalf of my co-host. We love you. He don't want to do it. Now, what if we were to get... You know, there's Scrubs Funko Pops, right? What if we were to each sign our own Funko Pop and give them the Trevor Wiki as his bribe? Trevor Wiki will then take said Funko Pops and sell them on the internet. Because he ain't into it! No, well then he'll make us 20 bucks and it'll be worth it. They're worth more than 20 bucks.

Listen, maybe because Ken asked Trevor Wiki, he'll be a little bit more inclined to do it because everybody loves Ken Jenkins. There we go. OK, I agree with that. While you're at it, get the list of all those hallways, Heather and Heather and whoever else did one. Yeah. That's a good question.

Well, listen, let's not overwhelm the man. We've already started your second question. See, that's what I'm talking about. This wouldn't be overwhelming if he wanted to do it. It'd be the best day of his life. Yo, Zach, Ken and Donald asked me how many things happened in the hallway. Woo-hoo! He made a website. He don't wanna do it! All right, calm down, calm down. This is his second... This is his audition to see if he wants to come back into the fold.

This is the callback. This is the callback. This is his callback. We'll see how he does. We've now given him two questions, one's from the legendary Ken Jenkins, and we will... Joelle, will you please facilitate him getting signed Funko Pops, but only if he comes through. Okay, I got you. We could also send him a gift card to get a free notification for his phone. Give him a $1.29 gift certificate. Give him a dollar 29 Think how insulted he'd be for like hey man, we really want to thank you

Here's a gift certificate for a dollar 29 to get our ringtone. Here's the ringtones All right. Should we get back to the episode guys? Yes. Eat Schmidt and die. Yeah, that was funny. Oh, Sarah says when she was a kid, she was really close with her maid. And then she goes, and then she goes, our maid was white. And Judy goes, what was her name? And there's a really long pause and she goes, Hansweiler. I'm gonna tell you. Oh man. Oh man. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Danity King alum,

Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York, and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial?

Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamour. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends, is back with something new, The Girlfriends Spotlight. Our first two series introduce you to an incredible gang of women who teamed up to fight injustice,

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. She was a decorated veteran, a Marine who saved her comrades, a hero. She was stoic, modest, tough, someone who inspired people. Everyone thought they knew her, until they didn't. I remember sitting on her couch and asking her, is this real? Is this real? Is this real? Is this real?

I just couldn't wrap my head around what kind of person would do that to another person that was getting treatment, that was, you know, dying. This is a story all about trust and about a woman named Sarah Kavanaugh. I've always been told I'm a really good listener, right? And I maximized that while I was lying. Listen to deep cover The Truth About Sarah on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shankar. I host a podcast called A Slight Change of Plans.

I started this show because unexpected change comes for all of us, and there's no set playbook for how to deal with it. I have all of this psychological baggage that I'm carrying with me, and the last thing I want to do is to pass that on to my daughter. So I have to figure this out. This puzzle of my trauma, I have to figure it out, and I have to figure this out. This is this puzzle of my trauma. I have to figure it out and I have to figure it out now. Join me this season when I talk to Amanda Knox about her choice to reconnect with the prosecutor who helped put her behind bars. This is not about him. This is about me and what I am

capable of giving and I know that I am capable of being kind to this man. And by God, I am going to do it and no one can stop me. Listen to a slight change of plans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So the mop and the janitor, I thought that was a great moment. And I thought that the janitor, cause you know, when watching these episodes, we don't really remember all of it. And so I honestly thought that JD had a breakthrough with the janitor and I was wondering what JD was going to do for the janitor be like, that mop that I got you, forget about it. I mean, that mop that you got me, forget about it. You ruined everything.

And he just decides at the end of the show, I like my old mop better. Yeah. Yeah. But by the way, he cries. He literally, the janitor, I hadn't forgotten this. He cries over my gift. First of all, he's in line, everyone's in line to go to Kelso's office to ask for things for their department. And really expensive stuff. You're asking for an Argon laser, people are asking for overtime for nurses, they're all lined up to ask for special things for department. The janitor's in line to ask for a mop. Yeah. And then he doesn't get a mop, so I go out and buy him a mop. I take the time to gift wrap it. I mean, I, I, I

JD goes out his way to make this man feel special. I know. I wish I'd seen the scene. That would have been a funny scene watching me mop shopping for the janitor, but I, I, I buy the mop, I gift wrap it, I put a bow on it and I give it to him and he starts to cry. He's so moved. Yeah. Yeah. That was funny. And then at the end of the episode, he's like, I like my old mom. I go, you cried. He goes, no, that was you. That was you.

I liked your line in when you said what was wrong with the mom and you said it was out of mop gas. was wrong with the mop and you said it was out of mop gas? Yeah. Was it out of mop gas? Yeah. He's so funny, Neil. I just look at him and I start giggling. I mean, you know when he comes on

it's gonna be a funny moment. How about Rob Mascio? First of all, I believe when you get fake breasts, I think it's like a special wing or doctor, right? I don't know why we're handling... Why Judy and Rob Mascio are handling a breast augmentation. Yeah, I think you go to a plastic surgeon for that stuff. Right, right. I don't know much, but I was like, why is Judy prepping a breast augmentation, and why is Rob Masgio doing the surgery?

Because the real JD was not in the writer's room when they were... Yeah. Exactly, Ken. Because I was like, I believe we're like a small city hospital and mostly for emergencies. I don't think we're doing cosmetic breast augmentation. But what about when he goes, let's get you into a fresh pair of blouse bunnies Blouse bunnies and then later he says to the husband after she's had the their breasts done He goes we're gonna need to get you some bigger hands

He didn't laugh at that that was hilarious I did laugh I laugh. I laugh at everything Rob does. Rob's a funny man. So we have a moment where Elliot has a voiceover. What? What are you talking about? Yeah, she has a voiceover when she's in her bra looking in the mirror. And stuff like that. Is that a voiceover or is it too... or is she talking to herself? Her mouth isn't moving so it's definitely voiceover. By the way, when she's playing with her breasts

and she's squeezing them together, and then she leans forward, and then something breaks, but I don't know what the hell happens. It sounds like someone throws a brick through her front window. There's this loud glass shatter noise. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I didn't pick that up.

Yeah, the idea is she's leaning forward and she's giving herself big cleavage, Yeah, the idea is she's like leaning forward and she's like giving herself big cleavage and then the idea is like something breaks. But do you know what I'm talking about, Joelle? Yeah. But the sound effect was so weird. It sounds like she was being attacked from outside. That was the bottle of massage oil.

Ah. Something broke, Ken. Something on her sink broke, but the sound effect was just a bizarre choice I thought. Joelle, do we have a guest? Let's bring them in. Ken, we take a question here from one of our lovely listener fans. They come into the room. You're about to meet them and then they ask us a question. Banks! Banks smoking that loud! Banks smoking that loud! Oh my gosh. Banks smoking that loud! Banks, are you exhaling marijuana as you ask us a question? Yes, I did have a couple of questions. No, but that's not...

That sounds like a yes. Banks, you smoking that loud right now? Why you call it loud? I never heard that. Because it's, it's loud and stinky baby. But Banks, all three of the, uh, cast members of scrubs that you have and enjoy the occasional, um, use of cannabis. Uh, it seems like you're the appropriate guest for this episode because we just

watched you exhale a giant cloud of smoke That shit was like a rat. That shit was like a Snoop Dogg video dog That's it was for real for real man. You took a big ass hit off of something And Zach you have a shirt this is burn. Yes, sir. Burn it burn it burn it cuz I'm gonna burn one down If you don't like my fire then don't come around cuz I'm gonna burn one down if you don't like my fire then don't come around because I'm gonna burn one down all right um it was Ben Harper no doubt no doubt is that OG was that OG Kush was it what was that was that um no if I was told it was uh purple diesel oh oh okay some mixture of sour diesel and purple haze. Purple diesel.

He approves of purple diesel. Ken, do you still partake every now and then? You know, when you reach 80, you don't need to because it's sort of like it's a perpetual filled thing. It just gets utterly filled up and there's no need to bother your lungs about it because it's just always there. You're full. Oh, I see.

So you smoked enough so that you're just good. You're high enough for the rest of your life. Well, either that or I was walking around Donald occasionally. Ken, my lips are purple now, Ken. They used to be pink. That's all I'm saying. Donald is salivating, Banks. You've made him jealous.

That's it. All right, Banks, you have a question for us. We have Ken Jenkins on the show today, Donald Faison, and I, Zach Brough. Yeah, I just watched the episode. Ken was hilarious. Yes. All right. So amazing.

The only thing getting thinner is my wallet. Yep. Cross the room. Yep. thinner is my wallet. Yeah. So my question about the show is, if you guys could recast, who would you cast as who? If I could recast myself, I'll just say myself. You could recast the whole show. I don't want to do that. But if I could recast, I loved working with everybody. And I think everybody is really good on this show. And I can't see anybody else playing the characters that we played. But if I could recast myself, there are like three people that I think could have done a great job

if timing was on their side. Denzel? Well, I mean, come on, man. I feel like if timing was on his side, Jaleel White would have made a great Christopher Turk by like, he would have crushed that role as Christopher Turk. If timing were right on his side. I feel like Damon Wayans Jr., if he were older back then, he would have crushed Christopher Turk. He would have done such a great job as Christopher Turk. And I think those two people, when it comes to playing that character, if I could recast

Chris Turk and it couldn't be me, I would take those two people. I was just thinking as Donald was answering because I zoned out, answer was so boring and I think that um, so is your face. I Was thinking Ben Platt would be a good JD He's a funny young Nerdy character actor he and he's very talented and he can sing his ass off. Not that JD was required to sing too much How about you Ken? Can you think of another actor who could have I don't know no one could replace the legendary Ken Jenkins but I wouldn't want to put anybody else through nine years of that.

All right what about another one Banksy? Can I call you Banksy? Banksy is fine. Banko is cool too. Banko. Banko. Oh, this is non scrub related. Donald, I want to know, like, because, you know, I'm from New York too. So like, I've kind of followed your career. Like, you know, you're always, you're always a groomsman, never a groom, really. Like kind of in the back. Like, But you know, Clueless, Sugarhill and all that thing like that. Who in Hollywood, like ain't you go who, who in Hollywood did you serve up the most on the court? Who in Hollywood did I serve up the most on the court? Me.

A lot of people, there are a lot of people that have gotten their ass busted by me. And then there are a lot of people that have gotten their ass busted by me. And then there are a lot of people that have busted my ass. The most famous of the two. Hold on. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, go ahead. Does he mean like in a metaphor in the acting world or on the basketball court? On the basketball court.

No, I don't know if that's what he means. Banks, what do you mean? I mean on the basketball court. Okay, shutting up. Thank you. And you stay quiet for a while until I'm done. Do you understand? Yes, sir. I'm sorry. So Leonardo DiCaprio is the most famous person that I've ever served on the basketball court him and Toby Maguire on the same team gave them the business and this was back dude.

This was back when I couldn't play basketball that well, right? This was me coming to LA and being put in the league and then seeing Leo and Toby and being like, oh, they're going to get it today. You know what I mean? And I didn't even score a lot of points, but we beat the crap out of it. They had like, they had a squad in this entertainment league that we played in and we beat them in the playoffs. We got them in the first round and when we played them during the in and We beat them in the playoffs We got them in the first round and when we played them during the season we beat them

Anyway, we have a question. Did. What were you going to say? No, I'm not dying. I'm not dying. What were you going to say? What were you going to say? It's so funny, but I also don't want to talk now. I told you to shut up. Did Leo invite you back to his game? Because I always hear about these celebrity games where when someone comes in and they kick ass, like you probably did, that they then don't get invited back. You got to watch how good you are. Right. So that happened to me. That happened to me.

So one time I played ball with Toby and a bunch of his buddies at somebody's house. I don't know who it was, but Harley Pasternak invited me. Harley Pasternak's a- Celebrity trainer. Celebrity trainer, right? Who we told you had said bananas are sugar sticks. Go ahead. Right, and I've run into him, he's invited me to a bunch of games to play with other celebrities because he knew I loved basketball.

So I played with Kanye West, I played with Common, I played with all of these people, right? And he invited me one time to play basketball with Toby. And I remember Toby Maguire was like, I don't want to be on his team because I'm not going to have fun playing on his team. And I took offense to it. And I remember when I got there and I listen, you talk about smoking a lot of loud, I had smoked so much weed when I got there before I got there, right?

And so I'm stoned out of my mind. And he's like, and he's like, I don't want to play with him because I'm not going to have fun. And I was like, Oh, okay, fine. You got it. And I proceeded to bust their ass on their court. And I never got invited back. Yeah, you got to be not too good, right? That's the trick, to play with fancy celebrities. Right. You have to make it feel like they can compete on your level if they can't compete on your level.

You got to bring them up to your level. You got to be like the LeBron James of the thing, where you score buckets, but you make them feel like they're doing their thing. Another time, hold up, I was in Miami and Leo and Toby invited me to hang out with them and this was one of the biggest moments of my life, you know what I mean? As a young actor, to me, Leonardo DiCaprio is the best actor in the world. I love everybody out there.

I think everybody does a great job but for me, Leo is my age and I think he's the best at my, like I don't think anybody's better than him in since, you know, when it comes to my peers, people that are my age, right? And so we're in Miami and we go down to this little basketball court and it's me, Leo and Toby on the same team. And we play against, you know, some Floridians on a three on three game and we win.

And I, you know, I remember and I remember thinking, you know, I've arrived, I played ball with Leo, I played ball with Toby. We were on the same team. It happened. I'm gonna be in the next Spider-Man. I can feel it. I was wrong because right. The, the, the next time I played ball with Toby, he said, I don't think I'd

have fun playing on his team. In my mind, I was like, but we kicked ass in Miami, baby. Toby, we had a thing. We had a thing. We did our thing in Miami. All right. So those are the people who, uh, when it comes to basketball, those are the two people that I've given the business.

Leonardo DiCaprio and Miami, uh, Leonardo DiCaprio and Toby McGuire. All right, so those are the people who, when it comes to basketball, those are the two people that I've given the business, Leonardo DiCaprio and Miami. Leonardo DiCaprio and Toby Maguire. When it comes to getting my ass busted, there are quite a few entertainers out there who can really ball. Michael B. Jordan is nice. Jesse Williams, nice.

I'd be sizing these dudes up. I mean, I'm a heavy NBA celebrity game historian and someone like Michael B. Jordan, I think I... I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you right now. It's a big difference when you're under those lights though, man. It's a big, big, big difference. And the ball isn't the real ball. It's not like anything you've ever played with. Why isn't the ball a real ball in the celebrity games? Because it has to look... It's shiny and it has, you know, it has a bunch of... Why isn't the ball a real ball in the celebrity games? Because it has to look...

It's shiny and it has, you know, it has a bunch of... It doesn't feel the same way. Right. And so... I love that grit, that normal grit we usually have when we play. Michael B. Jordan, Jesse Williams, Brian McKnight, James LeJure... Brian McKnight is a beast. Yeah, James LeJure.

I'm trying to... I'm leaving some people out. They're going to be pissed off. Do you play with the Migos at all? Who's your... I'm sorry. I know trying to, I'm leaving some people out. They're going to be pissed off about it. I know the Amigos are supposed to be really good. They're so much younger than me that I've never had the... So when you were playing, when you were playing actively in these celebrity leagues,

who was the best? Who would you pick number one on your team of people we know? It's either Brian McKnight or James LeJure. Those two are... Like, Brian McKnight or James LeJure. Those two are like, Brian McKnight understands basketball, right? James LeJure, he doesn't have to score, you know,

40 points to win. He would average a triple double every game we played. And you'd look at it and be like, damn, you know, he didn't take a lot of shots, but he had 10 points. And I don't think he passed the ball to me that much, but look, he has 10 assists. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just had to look up who James LeJure was. Right. That dude is that dude can ball for real. Yeah, he can hoop. Yeah. But the two that are the two, the three that are really good in my opinion

are James LeJure, Brian McKnight and Michael B. Jordan. Okay. three that are really good in That's another person who could have played Turk is Dulé Hill if circumstances were correct. But Dulé is not. How's Jaleel White? Jaleel is dope. Jaleel Cabal too. That's another one. I remember him. That's another one.

But I gave and Jaleel knows it. I gave him the business one summer league. We had a Nike summer league and I gave him the business and he knows it. And to this day, every time if I ever, I I mean I don't play basketball anymore But from that point on if I did play Jaleel white he was extra aggressive when it came to Guarding me and if I was guarding him to showing me yo that was a fluke dude You ain't never gonna do it again, but I gave him the business one game so much so that you know when people are staring at you and You're acting like you can't see them staring at you. I felt the burn in my peripheral while he's sitting on the bench after I filed his ass out,

burning into my free. I was like, you know what I mean? Do they still do this celebrity basketball thing? I don't know. I don't play basketball anymore. No, I'm saying they do. Okay. Not right now, obviously. I mean, in non-COVID times. I wonder if it was still effective. Yeah, definitely. I don't play basketball like that anymore. But it's a big difference. When it gets on television

and the announcers and the TV timeouts and all of that stuff, it's not the same game. You know what I mean? Your rhythms, you have to be hot going in and just stay hot because your rhythms are off and you can't play your way into games like that, in my opinion. All right. Well, for anyone who tuned out for the last 10 minutes, this is a spot for rewatch. Ken just woke up. Ken was like, huh?

Ken took a brief nap. Ken took a brief nap. Um, but we're back. Uh, Banks, thank you, man. Those were good questions. No problem. This is great. And, uh, we appreciate you and, um, and, uh we appreciate you and you inspired Donald to go have some purple diesel.

Well, it's not going to be purple diesel. It might be that. Listen, man, it might be that lookout. It might be that out. It's my birthday. You want to count out? Go ahead. Yeah.

Happy first of all, happy birthday. Thank you. Happy birthday. How old are you? 32. Oh, you're youngin. All right. The show's not quite over yet, but we'll tell you what we're gonna do. Well, I guess we kind of did it, right? We don't have anything else to talk about. I mean, we're at Ken. Is there anything else you wanted to say?

Yeah, you have to say how good Johnny Castle is. Absolutely. Ken, you know what? Absolutely. You're absolutely right. You're right, Ken. Johnny Castle doesn't get enough appreciation. He plays Doug, the nervous guy. And he was always very, very funny and always had his little red fanny pack on. And it's always the butt of Kelso and Cox's jokes. And some of the best one-liners, like, you know, when he's like, my family lives in, uh, you'll see them. Yeah. My family lives in Reno. You'll see them around the holiday. Do you know what you're seeing the Christmas for? Right, right, right, right. And he's, he snaps off those

ends when, when, uh, Johnny says, always chasing him off, go, go, go, go. He snaps those ends off so crisply too. Yeah. He's so good. Ken, I just want to say thank you for doing this. Donald and I talk about a lot how much we love you and miss you, and we were both really, really excited that you wanted to do this.

You know, and also, you are the MVP of our show. You were talking earlier about how you felt you were so broad and everything like that, and you needed to pull it back. But I, personally watching you, feel like you were so natural. And you were able to bring a natural element to slapstick and broad comedy. And as much as you're like, ah, I feel like I was all,

I was over the top. I personally, I, it's, it's, it, I, I disagree with you, honestly. I think you are right in the pocket and you crush it every time. And I think that's why it started off as Kelso being the bad guy. And as we moved forward, Kelso all of a sudden was telling all of the great jokes and had

all of the great one liners. And so that's just my two cents. Donald, I got to tell you, the only reason that I agreed to come on and do this with you guys was the hopes that you would say some wonderful bullshit like that. Okay, nobody talk. We can't beat that. We can't beat that. That's how you end the show. Thank you, Ken Banks. Count us out. Five, six, seven, eight. We've got some stories about a show we made, about a bunch of doctors and nurses and a calendar who love and hate.

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