Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic - 206: My Big Brother with Tom Cavanagh

Episode Date: August 9, 2022

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That's a fire song, by the way. It is a fire song. I got to tell you, since I told our listeners about it and reminded you about it, I've been singing it nonstop. It's like, you know how you usually get a summer hooky song in your head? My summer hooky song in my head is, what you trying to get into? What day or so? That's amazing, because 20 years ago,

your summer song was, turn me inside out so I can speak. Yeah. Because you're everywhere to me. When I close my eyes. I hope Michelle Branch knows how many shout outs she gets on this podcast. Yeah, she should know, because she's not alone. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. I think Michelle Branch must be aware how many times over the years I've spoken about her. Do you think Michelle Branch gives two shits about us? Do you think so? Yes. Yes.

I think Michelle Branch likes any people that are talking about a song she wrote 20 years ago. I hear that, man. I don't know what happened to her. She's so talented. I think she got married, had kids, joined a band. That doesn't mean she gave up her musical abilities. She didn't. She's in a band right now.

It's her and another young lady, and they do music together. I don't give a fuck what they do as long as they cover everywhere to me. They do very good. Casey put me onto them, because you know how Casey works in music sometimes. And she put me onto them and was like, yo, she's dope. She joined a band. I rock out to her on my treble. You know, I've been thinking about putting my sort of girl pop workout list

on the web so people can get it. Do that shit. Yeah. Do that shit. Yeah that shit yeah because itunes needs that yeah people listen i can never find a workout playlist that suits my needs right a lot of people clearly agree with you on on rap and hip-hop because if you go on like the standard playlists on itunes or wherever they're all like 95% that. And like Hits 1 is all like stuff I don't listen to.

Like Wu-Tang. Do you don't listen to the Wu-Tang? I don't listen to, no, I don't listen to Wu-Tang. Do you know who, but you know who Method Man is? Yeah, of course. He was in Garden State. That's right. That's right. But you know, he's in, you do know that he is in a band with about 12 people called Wu-Tang.

Yes, I know what Wu-Tang Clan is, Don. Can you name four other Wu-Tang members? There's Wu, there's Tang, there's Clan. I'm going to say some names and you're going to be like, oh yeah, I've heard of them.

Of course I have. Old Dirty Bastard. Of course, I've heard of him. He died, right? Yes, he did. Okay. The RZA. Yeah, I've heard of him. I can picture him him dude the rizza we hung out with him one night yeah and you spell it rza i know that yeah we hung

out at chateau he came through and kicked it with us that night we were hanging you're not supposed to talk about chateau on this actually so let me take that back why well you know what happens at the chateau supposed to stay at the chateau right yeah you can't be dropping chateau things i hung out with drake at the chateau once you see look, you can't be dropping Chateau things. I hung out with Drake at the Chateau once. You see, look at you, spilling the beans. Okay, go ahead. Who else? RZA? Older Master.

Right. Method Man. Method Man. Ghost Face Killer. Yeah, I've heard of him. I can't picture his face. I can't picture his ghost face killer. You God.

I don't know you God. The JZA. I don't know the JZA. That's the genius. Inspector Deck. There you go. Wow, there's a big band. A lot of people in thisizza. That's the genius. Inspector Deck. There you go. Wow, there's a big band. A lot of people in this band.

A lot of people. Oh, yeah, it's a huge band. You really like their music a lot. Are you kidding me? I smoke on the mic like smoking Joe Frazier, the Hellraiser. Raising hell with the flavor. Terrorizing jams like troops in Pakistan. Swinging through your town like your neighborhood Spider-Man.

So, um, tick- tock, keep ticking. Come on now. You don't know nothing about the Wu-Tang? Okay, I have a question. Yo, M-E-T-H-O-D man. M-E-T-H-O-D man. Hey, you, get off my cloud. You don't know me and you don't know

my style. You don't know this? No, I have a question though. When you have a big rap super group like that are there they all hey dirty baby i got your money don't you worry i said hey i know that song yeah that's all right before you go into another song i have a question do they all take turns like i'm gonna rap now all right now you're up you rap now that kind of thing like like like they take turns well some of them have like a connection so you remember run dmc growing up yes yes yes yes the adidas my adidas right those two had a connection so when they rapped they could uh when they rhyme they could bounce off of each other some people it's like you and i how we

have a good uh how we have good chemistry, same thing with rappers. Right. And you look for, when you're a rapper, you look for that person that you have chemistry. Drake and Future have really good chemistry together, so they do a lot of records together. Right. And so it's the same thing. In the Wu-Tang, because it was so big, the Wu was so big, there are little tiny groups with inside of the group.

Oh, there's subgroups within the Woo. Right. So Ghostface and Rayquan the Chef. That's the one I forgot to mention. I should have put Rayquan. He got probably the best. Built for Cuban links is probably the best Wu-Tang record, in my opinion. It's got so many good songs on it.

Anyway, Ghostface and Rayekwon do very well together. And on record, they bounce off of each other very well. So they're a- Now, who's your favorite? If you had to pick one member of the Wu-Tang Clan that's like your favorite rapper in the group? The JZA. The Genius. I like him a lot.

I liked ODB a lot. I like Meth. Method Man. I like all of Wu, to be honest. Are they still like... Ghostface got some of the best songs I've ever heard in my life. When the world's normal, do they still tour? I hope so.

It's a lot of egos, man. It's a lot of them, man. How do you do that? How do you... That's like, look. The Jackson 5 couldn't stay together, and they were brothers. How do you expect the Wu-Tang Clan to stay together? When we go on the road eventually touring this show, I feel like your ego is going to soar like an eagle out of control.

It depends on if they applaud for me. You're going to have demands. You're going to have, in your rider, there's going to be all sorts of rules, no eye contact. It all depends on how loud they applaud for me. If they applaud for you louder than they applaud for me, I feel like I'll fall into a little, you know, I'll back into a little corner and cry like a little baby. But if they applaud for me more than they applaud for you, you're damn right, man. I want my bust to be bigger.

Yeah. We're going to measure up. We're going to have the same bust. Listen, we're going to bring Dan and Joelle, and Dan's going to bring his thunderous applause button. So we'll be able to augment. Whatever the crowd does, we'll be able to augment.

The audience, you ever look at an award show and you hear the applause on an award show, and then you look around and no one's clapping? Yeah. Like no one in an award show is paying attention. So there'd be like a third of them clapping. So they just augment all this thunderous applause. Well, that's going to be what Dan is doing for us when we're on tour with this show.

So before we start the show, Dan will be like, all right, so I need some thunderous applause from you guys. Okay, everybody. And now I need some laughter. Need some laughter. No, no, no, no. And he'll get all of the tracks. No, bro. He's just going to bring it. It'll be a button. Well, no. And he'll get all of the tracks? No, bro. He's just gonna bring it.

It'll be a button here. Well, hell yeah, he's gonna bring it. Dan always brings it. Yeah, Dan's gonna bring it, dude. He's gonna bring it? Of course he brings it. I'm talking about the laughter. I'm talking about the applause. I think we're probably gonna play arenas, and

we're gonna need to do sound checks at these arenas. If we play arenas and um and we're gonna and we're gonna need to do sound checks at these arenas if we play arenas imagine that imagine we go to london yeah and what's the big arena two the o2 the o2 and we play the o2 like yeah that would be the best day of my life i'm gonna tell you something right now london make it happen listen make it happen let's put it out there like let's secret that shit i'm sure i'm sure we're going to be playing like 400 seat theaters. But in reality, let's secret it that we sell out the O2 arena for fake doctors, real friends. That would be the best.

That would be the best night of my life. Listen, you got to put shit out there. You got to put outrageous shit out there and make it come true. Remember I told you about the whiteboard? You get a whiteboard and you write the most outrageous shit you want to have happen in your life. Let's do it. And you look at it every single day.

Who'd you say did that? Well, I have a lot of people in my life who told me this, but the anecdote I referenced on the show was I'm friends with John, a legends manager. And they, her name is Ty, and they went to a high school together. And she said when he first started, they got a big whiteboard and they were putting them out. They were like, let's be outrageous. Like, I don't know, cover of Time Magazine, like this many Grammys. They were like sitting there laughing about the outrageous shit they were putting on this whiteboard.

And she turned to me and she said, every single thing on that whiteboard happened. And she said that now I do whiteboards with all my clients. So anyway, it's about manifesting. It's about making shit happen. I have a whiteboard in my bedroom. And some things on there are like goals I have. And some things on there are like outrageous. I mean, obviously, we're not going to sell it at O2 Arena.

But I'm saying you can choose. Yeah, no, put that shit on the board. It could happen. It happened for John Legend, man. The dude's got EGOT. He got the EGOT. Let's make it happen, dude. Well, maybe we have to bring John Legend if it was like –

if we opened for John Legend. Let's do it. Let's call him. John Legend, yeah, man. Listen, the guy's got an EGOT, okay? So put your EGOT on your board. I believe in it because you look at the board every day, and even in your subconscious brain, your mind is going, I'm going to find a way to work on that today. I'm going to

make that call I'm afraid to make. I'm going to, for some people, it's fitness. They're like, you know what? I just looked at that whiteboard and I got to get on the treadmill today. I promised myself. That's what's up. I like this. I'm going to put the whiteboard in my bedroom. I'm going to share it with Casey. I'm going to be like whiteboard in my bedroom. Get a whiteboard. I'm going to share it with Casey. I'm going to be like, baby, let's put the most outrageous things on this board. I'm telling you, listeners, this is, you know, Brene Brown, very popular. This is our Brene Brown moment. This is our self-help motivational moment on Fake Doctors, Real Friends.

You can make anything happen. Okay, dude, I love this. I love this. I love this. I love you. I love that we did this together. The four of us and our listeners. Let's make that shit happen. Let's do it. What are you wearing? I have a sweatshirt on today because my wife is... Is that one of those

Bieber things? No, it's Mickey Mouse. You know, my 40-something crisis is being managed by just getting lots of tattoos. Nice. Good for you, man. I was always afraid to get tattoos because my father hated them. And when my sister died, I got her name in Hebrew on my arm.

And my father kind of like was okay with that because it was, you know, meaningful and it was Hebrew. And then when he passed away, like I realized that so much, even though I was in my 40s, I still was so nervous about what my father would think. And then I was like, all right, it's time to fucking tattoo the shit out of myself. Right on. So you're going to have a sleeve soon. Well, I don't know about a sleeve, but where do you want your face when I get it? I was thinking my left areola. I was thinking your face for sure.

What if I did you on my pectoralis major and then your mouth was open, but then in your mouth was my left areola. That's weird. That's weird. I prefer you just got my face on your face. Like you took my face and tattooed it on your face. You just had a whole episode about this, no? No, I didn't say on his whole face, like my face on his cheek.

I don't know. Wait a second. Wait a second. Joel, it doesn't qualify as blackface if I get Donald's face on my face on his cheek yeah i don't know now wait a second i don't know wait a second joelle it doesn't qualify as blackface if i get his face on my face can you imagine all you can see all you can think of is him painting my face on his face i do the face off text but like in a tattoo format right no it would be an outline joelle joelle it would be an outline joelle's like now managing all of our blackface issues she's like guys sounding like that might be blackface

hey guys i got the chime in here that sounds like it might be blackface no joelle it would be an outline it wouldn't be like colored in it would be it would be an outline of donald's face well i would just want it on your cheek or on your forehead you know by the way the guy guy who tattoos me told me that we were talking about all these young kids that are getting tattoos on their face and how ridiculous it is. And he said that he's really surprised that any of these artists are doing it because there's sort of this unwritten code amongst tattoo artists that you would never put a tattoo on a young person's face. Right. And because – for obvious reasons. And he said, and now that there's this fad of it happening, he thinks that they're all just doing it for Instagram fame

because these kids are often, you know, famous people. And they're doing it saying, fuck it, I'm going to get my 15 minutes of fame. But, you know, obviously these young people that are all tattooing the shit out of their faces. Dude, you might not be able to get the money later. You know what I mean? Get the money now if you can. That's the...

YOLO, man. You only live once. So you would tattoo a child's face, Donald? I'm not... First of all, I am not a tattoo artist, so I'll never have to put myself in this situation. But you just told these guys to YOLO and tattoo someone's face. I'm saying the reasoning behind it is this.

Dude, do you – you don't – listen. If Scrubs didn't happen, you don't know what you would have done to make ends meet if you're acting and directing stuff. You know what I mean? You could have gone into a business that you might not be proud of. You might be an Instagram model right now with your ass in the air and a thong. I know. Talking about people and followers. I love how these girls, the Instagram influencer people, they took a little time off for COVID and the Black Lives Matter movement.

And now they're all back fucking tushes in the air selling tea. On some yacht in Ibiza. Oh, my God. YOLO. Nobody says YOLO anymore. What do they say these days? I don't know. TikTok dancing.

I've been inside so long, I have no idea what the kids are saying. Well, they're all on some old guy's yacht doing a TikTok dance. But you know what? They must have put that shit on a whiteboard. Imagine that was on the whiteboard. Imagine that's the whiteboard. What do you want to be? That's their fucking whiteboard. I want to be on a yacht, having somebody pay for it,

making that Instagram money. That's what's up. That's what's up. There it is. Go for yours. Listen, that's what I say to everybody and anybody out there who has dreams and they want fame. As long as you don't disrespect nobody or hurt nobody, go for yours, man. Yeah, but if you can, try and go for something that contributes to society in some meaningful way.

Sure, you can find yourself later on. You got to, everybody has something to say. I miss you so much. It hurts sometimes. I miss you so much more, dude. Should we get into the show? Tom Cavanaugh's here today. I'm so excited about this.

Count us in, y'all. Five, six, seven, eight. I said stories about a show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses And a janitor who loved to hate I said he's got stories That we all should know So gather round to hear our

Gather round to hear our Scrubb's Rewatch Show With Zach and Donald What a show What a show we have today, Donald It's a really good episode And the hilarious Tom Cavanaugh's here We have so much to say

Let's just get in Dan, allow him into the room. Here he comes. I haven't seen him in years. I haven't seen him in years. Tom Cavanaugh! Thunderous applause, Dan. Thunderous applause.

Thunderous applause. Look at how handsome he is. It's like, look in the mirror. Look at the hair growing. Look at him, man. Like, look in the mirror. That's pandemic. You got the pandemic face going on, huh?

You did get more handsome with age, Tom Cavanaugh. And I can say that because people think we look alike. This is true. I can say likewise, my friend. Look at you guys. My goodness gracious. How are you, brother? I'm so good.

So good to see your faces. Holy Hannah. It's good to see yours too. Are you living in Canada or do you live in the U.S. still? Well, I live in New York, but I film a show in Canada, and when the pandemic hit, I stuck it up north. Hi, Joel. I'm Tom, by the way.

Hi, Tom. How are you? Nice to meet you in person. I listen to you guys, so I sort of am familiar with everything. Do you know I watch your show, right? You know I watch your show. I don't know that, but I know you have like 27 children, so I figured maybe in that demo somewhere.

No, but Tom is not watching it for his kids. He's watching it for himself. I'm watching it for me. I love The Flash, dude. Are you kidding me? That's tremendous. You've got a dynamite cast, great stories. Donald is your target demo, Tom.

He watches all of this stuff. What I don't understand is – The CW is a bunch of teenage kids and Donald. How does – listen, Tom. He watches all of this stuff. The CW is a bunch of teenage kids and Donald. How does... Listen, man. Is this the only Wells now? Is this the only Wells now? Is this the final

Wells? Because the multiverse, the crisis happened and everything happened. There's only, what, four Earths, five Earths now in the whole Arrowverse. And now Supergirl lives on Earth one with you guys. And I don't know. My point is, my point is.

Let the man fucking speak, dude. No, no, no. Keep going. He's all worked up, Tommy. I'm really excited because I really do love the show. I really do love the show. I love you and Cisco Ramon together. I love Wells and Cisco Ramon. I love the show. I really do love the show. I love you and Cisco Ramon together. I love Wells and Cisco Ramon.

I love the whole thing. So look, my question is, are you the only Wells left now that you've gone off and you've become pariah and everything like that? Is this the only Wells there is? Here's what's ridiculous about doing a show, a superhero comic show. I run into people like you, and I just am so inferior with my knowledge. I'm like, you know more than me. And I'm not exaggerating. I'm not trying to play dumb.

I'm like, I understand by listening to you that you have a better grasp of the whole thing than I do. I feel like, as you guys know, when you do a long-running television show, if there needs to be another Wells, there can be another Wells. That's what's up. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Here's the thing. Can you explain, Donald?

First of all, catch your breath. Calm down. Okay. You're embarrassing us in front of our guests. No. This is exactly what I did to George Lucas, man. This is exactly what I did to George Lucas. By the way, when this show is over, he's going to take a nap because he's going to get woozy.

He gets very amped up, and then he gets woozy. To all the fans out there who are wondering how I geek out when I meet or talk to people that do something that I'm like, holy shit about, this is it right here. I can't breathe right now. I know. I'm sweating. I know I have a sweatshirt on, but I'm sweating under here. All right, but calm down now for those of you who don't know tom is on the flash and as i understand it with these cw superhero shows you bounce around to the other

shows in the same universe right and they all they're all under the greg berlanti umbrella i'm guessing yes the golden boy of hollywood that used to be bill lawrence is now greg berlanti and right he has he has a 400 shows on the air. Yeah, he's an empire. By the way, my very first job, Tom Calvin, well, first lead in the movie was Broken Hearts Club, Greg Berlanti's first movie. That's tremendous.

And we went to Northwestern together, and now he has the most shows on television of anybody. You and I, when we were talking about doing a your podcast the text that came up right next to that text the last time we talked can i can i can i read a text that you as long as it's not like you up it's like four in the morning and i'm hammered you up no it's solid comedy it's uh you say um tell berlanti i want to do a cameo as reverse flash's brother i say done you say totally unbilled though a surprise but i'll need special powers i say make a list power list nothing with

heavy hammers that shit is boring you say laser say, laser eyes, please. I say, those are free. That sounds great. I feel like it's a miss. Why did that never fucking happen? I know. I feel like now that we've done this and I know that Donald wants to be on board, I feel like now you're forcing his hand because you're putting it out to the public and now he has to hire you.

We were talking about whiteboards and manifesting your destiny onto whiteboards. This is on my whiteboard. I'm putting it out there right now. I want to call Berlanti. And I had to call him about something else. But I want to call Berlanti and say, listen, Tom said I could be on the show. Yeah, yeah, because I have that kind of ball. Yeah, sure.

I spoke to Tom Cavanaugh. And he says. And he'll be like, hang on a second, Tom. Yeah. He's like, he's got so many shows. He's like, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom. Yeah, he's like, no, I know who he is. I know who he is.

Hang on a second. And then he calls to his secretary. Do we still do Flash? Yeah, okay, we do. But by the way, how funny would that be if Donald and I came on? I mean, to be honest, I don't get breathless about this superhero stuff like Donald, but he really loves it. So, sorry, I digress.

So you should do it. The other thing you should do, Donald, you should figure out, knowing it as you do, you should figure out what the role is that you want. Oh, I know what role I want. What do you want? Don't say mine. Don't say mine. I kind of like my job.

Don't say mine. Listen, I'm going to put it out there. Go. What do you want? Don't say mine. Don't say mine. I kind of like my job. Don't say mine. Listen, I'm going to put it out there. Go. Who do you want to be? You guys kind of opened it up when Arrow ended. And I know I'm not sure if you guys are allowed to touch it. You kind of touch on it in Stargirl. But I think Green Lantern needs to be in this.

You know what I mean? Oh, Joelle just clapped. Joelle is a big fan of this world too and there's so many uh there are so many that are in the lantern core and i know that you know and also size doesn't matter when you're a lantern you could be tiny you could be wide you could be you're right come on man anyway my point is i think that's one character that would be a lot of fun to play. There's so many people in the DC universe, but if I had a choice and they were willing to do it, I would love to be Green Lantern.

All right. I think that's really special and dear to Greg, so I think that's great. You're making this happen. Newsflash. I have a question. Can the Green Lantern be 46? He can be anything. Look at me.

I'm playing the reverse Flash. I wear a yellow super suit and I'm 87, Zach. Tom, for those of us who don't know, and I'm sure some of our listeners don't know, can you just explain in non-superhero terms what reverse flash means?

Is there a young guy who plays flash? Yes. There's a good-looking – it's kind of like when we did Scrubs. Like a good-looking handsome guy is the lead and then they cast this guy as his brother. Bill Lawrence had lost a bet somewhere. So basically a young guy – Tom, when you insult your looks, you insult my looks. I apologize.

You're right. So you're a handsome, you look like Brad Pitt to me. When you came on, I thought we got Tom Cavanaugh. Why is Brad Pitt on the podcast? That's what you thought. Okay, sorry.

What is the reverse flash for those of us? So he's the Joker to the Batman, the Lex Luthor to the Superman. He's, he's the bad guys that we have a young fellow. Grant Gustin plays the flash and the arch enemy is the reverse flash. He wears a red suit and I play the arch enemy,

the reverse flash. I wear a yellow suit and that's kind of it. Are you doing lots of stunts and fighting? Yeah. Yeah. Can you imagine? It's crazy. You know,

that bucket list that you have as an, as an actor and you want to do this theater, you want to do this show, you want to do something like Scrubs. The whiteboard! Yeah, the whiteboard and that. We started the show, Tom, before you came on, talking about just manifesting things by putting on a whiteboard and staring at it.

It was weird to be in your green room and not have the speakers going. I'm like, I wonder what they're talking about. We were talking about you. We were talking about manifesting and then you. Well, that's exactly it. That's such a great call. This is one of those things I never would have expected to do a superhero show. And in terms of a bucket list, it's so fun.

Yeah, you guys look like you have a lot of fun on it. And it has no end in sight. You get to do comedy on your show. It has no end in sight. I mean, I just feel like Greg Berlanti keeps adding more and more to this world, right? I don't know if they're all, they all must be successful because they all keep going. I honestly don't know. I never would have thought, I think when they started a number of years ago, they had, they'd done super, no, what was the Superman show,

Smallville. And then they did Arrow, and Arrow I think Smallville. And then, um, and then they did Arrow and Arrow, I think did well. And then, but when we started Flash, you, you guys, you guys all know how it is. We started Flash and I said to my wife, well, this will be, this will be canceled in seven. So I'll go up to Vancouver from New York and we'll shoot and then it'll get canceled. Because even at that time I had done two shows for Greg, and both of them had been canceled relatively quickly because that's just how it goes. And so I didn't foresee it. I never expected it to go, and this thing seemed to go. And even when you say there's no end in sight, I still expect that you'll just get the call like, hey, so we're done.

You just never know. For those of you not in the entertainment industry, we just never know. You get a show like Scrubs and you're like, okay, this could go six episodes and then it goes nine years. Or Donald did this show and it went a season and I did a show and it went a season. Every single time it's a roll of the dice no matter how many good ingredients there are. You just never know. Yeah. And most of the time the numbers are it's going to get canceled.

It's not going to go. Right, especially now more than ever because there's so much content. How the hell does something find eyeballs? You're on the classic old school true network. You guys do 24 episodes a season. Do you know what it's like to be able to do something like most i remember i remember i did uh a show called the x's right after uh scrubs right of course yeah we did 10 episodes a season that was it for an actor it's like wait well hold on let's i want to be i want to work all year round if I possibly can.

It was really weird to work 10 episodes and then have all of this time off until you came back and did another 10. Or we would do 30 and they would just chop it up into episodes. It was like you never really find a pace or a footing. It's like, well, how long are we going? We're only going to do 10? 22, you guys seem to, you know, you live in Canada right now. Yeah. Is it Vancouver where you shoot?

Vancouver, Canada, coniferous jewel of the city. Have you guys been? I have. I love that town too. I think it's a beautiful city. I love it there. I was there when the sun was out and it was magnificent. Yes.

And then I was told that it's not always like that. And I don't know if I would like it rainy. It's a question of taste. Like when the sun shines, there's no finer place. I don't mind the rain, but I think if you were somebody that didn't like rain and preferred like seasons and snow, then this city would not be for you. But it really is a coniferous jewel of a city. And are you mostly on stages and such, or do you go out and shoot on locations and stuff?

It's a, it's almost follows a pretty regular schedule. We do a lot of stage work early in the week and then we do all this, this stunt stuff. You know, it's always, you know, so Thursday, Friday nights, we're going to be, we're going to start at 5 PM and we're going to go all night and we're going to like, you know, have the guy run up a building and fight a monster. And then like, we're going to come back and win. So you kind of, you kind of, you kind of have to stay in shape for this thing. Like you're, you're asked to do way more than you expected to do when you started, huh? Right. It's a blessing and a curse, you know, because the other thing is too, as you know, too, like, I mean, I'm older than you guys.

But there's a there's a thing where you when you were a young actor, you could be vain, but you wouldn't really matter because you're probably going to look fine, you know, and then you get a little bit older. And then your coast, the people you're acting with, your co-actors are twenty eight, twenty nine, you know, and they are fantastic. And then there's you, you know, and he's, he looks great in the suit and then you can't really be on the donut diet while you're on the suit. So you kind of have to keep, keep in, in shape, you know? And so it's, Do you hang out with Jesse L. Martin a lot? Jesse is a legend, as you guys know, coming from theater, he's just, he, he's amazing. He's got this thing, Sus, cause he's the captain,

you know, he can, he, where he wear a hat and an overcoat, he doesn't have to worry too much about, you know, like he's just like, he's kind of like, he runs, he basically is the beating heart, you know, runs the show, the, the center of, you know, reason. And, uh, you know, he, he's, uh, he's got a, a great job and appreciates it. So Tom Tom, when the show Ed, I want to talk about that. When it came out, I was an unemployed actor, and my mom called me, very, very concerned that I had gotten a lead in a TV show and not told her because she didn't understand why I was on billboards all over the country. Is that true?

No, it is. This is a good issue. No, it is. I mean, she obviously sussed that it was not me, but she was like, there is a young man who's on every billboard in town, and he looks a lot like you. And I remember thinking, oh, yeah, Mom, that's not me. Yeah, I'm still trying to get some auditions going.

Oh, no. And it was really humbling because I was like, that fucking guy who looks exactly like me has a hit show leading role on NBC. Now no one's ever going to hire me. By the way, Dax Shepard, who also looks like us, told me this. He was like, when I became famous and like us yes told me this he was like when i was when i was you know became famous and was all over the place he was like well how is this gonna fuck my career because i look like that guy and that guy's already working and uh so anyway i wanted to

talk to you about ed and tell us i imagine that was your big break right i mean i know you worked a bunch but that was your first your own show right i for sure i mean first off dax and you have done quite well for yourselves yeah it worked out so is ray romano guys so is ray romano yes it worked out it worked it did work out but yeah i had done i'm canadian and um i had uh i moved to new york city and I think, 89 to do Broadway. I did like a decade of theater and absolutely loved it. Absolutely, 100% loved it. And then I had done a small guest spots for literally for 10 years on ABC, NBC.

Back then it was like just the four, right? And I'd done a show called Providence. I'd done a show called Providence. But I had no idea of the profile that you guys enjoyed on Scrubs because a lot of the shows that I'd done when they were television shows or series, I'd done a couple of series in Canada. They were Canadian shows, and there's no cross-border pollination between the two countries. In other words, you'll shoot a show in Canada and you'll do 10 episodes, but everybody in Canada is watching Friends. So who's watching these Canadian shows?

Well, it's different in Canada. There's a federal mandate for these television shows, so they do them. And some of them are quite, quite good. And there's not a there's not a mill the way there is behind the entertainment industry in the States up in Canada. It doesn't you know, part of the ethos of the country is like, well, let's not get too big for ourselves then. You know, and so and in the States, it's very much the opposite. Like, let's see how we can build up and how big we can get. And why that ethos is good is that, you know, if you're working as an actor, you're working largely because you love it, because a lot of the attention, at least back then, now it's different because everything can be found. But back then, you know, you were doing the same stuff we would do on Scrubs that you'd come to set and there's all the crew and there's the people

and it's great and you love it. And then you leave set and it's still the exact same experience. It's just that you're not going to Radio City Music Hall and doing the upfronts. Right, right. You know what I mean? Right, right. But it's nice in a strange way because you understand that, oh, this is what I love to do.

And by the time I got Ed like you know 15 years later it was I was aware enough that it was that it's still the same experience and so even though suddenly like you say there was like billboards plashed all over the place I was readily aware that you know that that was all that back thing get ripped away and it's semi superficial and so i think that was a nice little i don't know what it would be like to have your face plastered all over the place when you're in your mid-20s i think it would be a i think it would be a tough fight we didn't we unfortunately didn't get a big billboard by right i don't know why nbc didn't go

they certainly went all in whoever made the billboard decision for Ed went all in. Yes. By the time Scrubs came on, they were like, dude, remember a few years ago? We shot our billboard budget on Ed. We have no billboard money for Scrubs. Yeah, I'm so sorry about that. Because that's why you guys didn't get that big billboard. What was funny is I remember when Scrubs started how just how much of a splash it made

i'm sure you can remember and it's not lost on you how like big a deal that that was like that show was so important it seemed at the time it was bizarre for us because also you know we compare it to now you know the amount of people watching a single TV show just doesn't happen anymore, especially live. Right. Really, even at all, but let alone live when it's airing. So it was a completely different era. That's right. The amount of people that would watch it. At our worst, TV shows now, if they got our worst numbers, they would be considered hit shows.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's crazy. Now, wait, Tom, was Ed written for for you or did you audition oh no no no no they didn't no no that was again that was nbc they didn't want me um at all like we had to they went through i think a year of casting known people and um you know better humans you know and then well they went just just so people don't who aren't in the entertainment industry know

they'll often try and get a known star and that's right and if and that doesn't always work out for whatever reasons and then they go okay well let's start to read people that aren't famous yet and which is when this is how people like the two of you well yeah i mean exactly exactly it's exactly how both tom and i got our parts. Exactly. I was like the third, I think the third round or so of doing it. The only reason I had that job, I remember how generous you were at Bill's 40th. And we had the party and he was, you know, you were like, you were just so gracious about, because you're clearly incredibly talented. And yet you had the wherewithal

to say i owe so much to to this guy and i had the same story there was a rob burnett and john beckerman who ran the late show with lederman were those were the guys the only reason i got the job is those guys said this is the guy and and you know they managed to have enough stock that people would listen to them. And without somebody standing up for you, sometimes it just doesn't go your way. Those people are the only reason I got that job. Do you know how many odd times you auditioned? I know I auditioned once in Los Angeles.

And you know how it is when you're like oh that that went well you feel good about it yeah I was also like okay it was pilot season and it was like one read during the day but it felt good and then then they called me to to have the sessions that they do they have a studio session in that work session and it was very it was like and this is I hope this isn't boring I don't mean no no no but they we went don't mean to talk about it. No, no, no. It's very interesting.

We went and we had to do it. It was at CBS at the time, by the way. I don't know if you guys know that show. That was CBS, not NBC. And CBS ultimately didn't think – so they got picked up by CBS, and then CBS never aired the show. And then a year later, NBC picked it up, which is weird. Oh, my God. That never happens. It never happens. Every time you make a pilot, it's always such a bizarre later, NBC picked it up, which is weird. Oh, my God. That never happens.

It never happens. Every time you make a pilot, it's always such a bizarre thing, both when I've been in them or when I've directed them. They put so much money in. They put so much work in. And then a network chooses what they choose. And then the discards are like they have the smell of shit on them. No one will touch them. And it's like, what?

Someone just spent $6 million making this pilot pilot you could look at it and maybe you could recast some things you could you could reshoot half of it whatever well why are you throwing it all away it's so it's always a bizarre waste of money to me because there's there's diamonds in the rough that no one is so this situation is very rare that then another network wait man we'll take it i don't know that it ever happened before with cbs i think from what i heard the only reason that that happened was again uh because robert and ran the letterman show it was because letterman had such a big he was such a big paycheck he's such a big paycheck. He was such a big entity at the time. That was the only reason I think that, that, that card, if a producer didn't have that card to say that would probably

have never, never happened. But when I went into to read, you know, ostensibly the thing was a comedy with heart. And so, you know, you know how these, it's so funny how these things change. So I went in to read, I was solid and funny in the room and made them laugh. And then normally, okay, the job is yours. This is at the network read, but then somebody there's, you know, 25 people in the room and somebody starts going, but, but what about this? This, I don't like this about him. And then that sort of spirals into something. And next thing you know, you had it and then you don't have it. Right. And I remember Rob and John came out and Rob was,

he had this real serious face and he's like, look, so they don't know if you can, they don't know if you can do straight drama.

So, even though it was a comedic scene about a guy finding out that his wife is sleeping with a mailman and they're like, you just need to do

that scene again and throw out all the comedy and play it like like you just need to do that scene again and throw out all the comedy and play it like you know play it like a shakespeare tragedy wow it's like okay oh my god and i went in and and did that and you know just completely straight as possible and they were like okay he can he can do that too it's so amazing you got the exact same speech i got pretty much really fucked up yeah Pretty much. No, they weren't saying he fucked up. Donald legit fucked up. They didn't say he fucked up.

No, I didn't fuck up. When I auditioned for Scrubs, I got real big in the audition because it was a comedic scene, and I got real big and animated. And Bill had to come out and be like, dude, tone that shit down. Pretty much. Yeah. Because it's funny, as you know like i think sometimes an executive hears another executive speaking goes i better weigh in as well you know right so suddenly they're like

he's big yeah he's too big yeah he's too big suddenly it becomes his thing and you're like oh no if actors only if actors who have yet to be in one of these rooms only knew how oh my gosh the tightrope you're walking to try and get a fucking role yeah and how it just it just falls on one person being like i don't know right what if and then all of a sudden you don't have the part anymore and you had the part for a second yeah right i've been in a room and watched somebody destroy it like kill it come in and destroy it and then someone else come in and do a really good job but not destroy it and and i saw well the first person obviously and one person in the room was like well you know what i'm not sure

they actually look like the part you know what you're right they don't necessarily look like the part and all of this doubt happened and the person that crushed it did not get the role and the person that just did good got the role because there was – I'm getting tense just listening to this. It's crazy, dude. It's crazy. I was once working on something and this girl came in and she was young. She was like a young Jennifer Garner type.

She was really pretty. She was early 20s and super expressive and funny. I thought that she should get the part. Another girl came in, very, very funny. She could have done it too, but I preferred the first girl. I thought that she should get the part. Another girl came in very, very funny. Well, he could have done it too, but,

but I, I preferred the first girl. I thought she was better. One of the executives goes regarding the first girl, the young Jennifer Garner type, but she goes, she's very expressive. Should we worry about her wrinkling early?

Oh, wow. Now, mind you, this is like a 20, early 20-something-year-old girl. And she's very pretty. And not only is that the most ludicrous thing

you can ever imagine another human being saying, but in your mind, the show is going to go so many years that her wrinkles that come from her being expressive are gonna be a problem i mean it was the most ludicrous thing i've ever heard in my whole life it's appalling

it's appalling the other part of it is actors can act you know and so so i don't know how many times like you've done a thing and then like yeah the feedback is yeah we wanted it a little bigger it's like ah say that shit yeah you know say that shit why did you let me do the whole audition listen man why did you let me do the whole audition that big then if that's the case somebody in the room could have said hey you know what i love your choice you could be diplomatic about it i loved your choice listen can you tone it down a little bit this time right you know what i mean that never happens anymore dude i do though, back in the day when I was going out for auditions, and it would be like somebody who was from the urban or from the streets and stuff like that,

and you'd get the, can you spice it up a little, Donald? Oh, really? Can you add a little something something to it? Can you put a little sauce on that for us, Donald? How would they say it? Like, what's the worst way someone would say it? Can you spice it up a little bit? Spice it up a little. And you'd? Like, what's the worst way someone would say it? Can you spice it up a little bit?

Spice it up a little. And you'd be like, what? I had a producer say to me once about a script. She goes, you know, she was this old lady. She goes, you know, you could go black with it. And I go, okay, yeah, there's no reason. She goes, you know, they're doing their thing. She did that gesture.

You guys can't see the gesture. I mean, she sort of rocked back and forth. She goes, you know, they're doing their thing. Oh, my God. That was one of the most awkward things I've ever witnessed. I go, okay, so you want them to do their thing. I got it. Oh, my God.

Should we get it? We have to take a break probably. Yeah, let's take a break. And then we're going to get into the episode. All right. We'll be right back with the Tom Cavanaugh. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words.

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Yeah, lots of episodes. You must have been one of our most recurring guest stars. been one of our most recurring guest stars? I don't know that, but I can tell you, I was always hugely grateful to get the call. I sort of feel like even being on this podcast is sort of like, I've sort of like, I was telling your producers, I've sort of like glommed my way on by like, you know, somehow this got put out there. But I also felt that same way about Scrubs. Like, Like, you know, somehow this got put out there. But I also felt that same way about Scrubs. Like, I don't really do Scrubs, but I sort of like piggybacked on the back of their success. And I've been basically a parasite this whole time.

And I'm so, so grateful for it because. Well, people loved you on the show, Tom. Sorry to interrupt. No, no. But it's funny how like when you like Ed isn't anywhere, you can't find it anywhere. Most of this is a lot of stuff that's harder harder to find and i would say scrubs is the thing even though you know you guys were you get all you guys did such a great job but i did nothing i still get recognized all the time from i hear people all the time want to

say hey little brother or they remember this they remember the bathtub episode they remember this kind of thing and you know it was like 90 years ago and people are still like, it's still resonant. It's on Comedy Central. It's just like, it's, it's lovely to be associated with your success. Well, people really loved you on the show. They really, you know, when, when, when Donald and I talk about having guests on, a lot of people asked for the Tom Cavanaugh, but, but wait a second, sorry, go back to what Donald asked. How did you come about? How did it come about? Did you know Bill or was it the obvious that people thought he's on NBC? He looks like Zach, that kind of thing? No, I think I had been friendly with Bill and we weren't friends before. We sort of became friends throughout, we had you know had spoken and gotten along um

and he uh he and his wife have always been like quite uh friendly and generous and stuff and so i think it must have been him saying oh okay i know tom i i have a friendly relationship with him and so this seems like a natural fit because of how we how we look I think you run into people and you're like I would like to work with this person again you know what I mean that happens occasionally and it almost never happens I think all your intentions are always great and yet you're still trying to have a job and survive and so sometimes it's quite quite difficult given you know it's very difficult to repatriate again. So I think maybe we got along and then he was like, oh, this could be a nice little one-off,

but then it ended up being more than that, which is tremendous. Because you're really good on the show, man, also. You know, we talk about this all the time in remembering the shows. We talk about it so much that it's become one of the bingo questions questions like somebody made a bingo uh sheet and on the bingo sheet it says they'll talk about at some point you know if they talk about uh not remembering the show you get a letter right and this is one of those moments because i really didn't remember this episode that much i knew the first episode i remember you on is when uh john ritter passed away and then you out of nowhere was like yo you know what i'll come in

and i'll and wait was that this one that's not this one that's not this one at all that was another significant one that was such a again you know i think i don't know if you had because you're there you have no basis of comparison. For you people, you guys were like, all your group was such a welcoming, it's interesting because once you go through 30 years of this stuff, it's not always a group like that. I obviously don't know all the inside stories and stuff because I would just come in and out. the inside stories and stuff because I would just come in and out but but being in a place where you felt uh welcomed and um encouraged and uh the idea is that that you guys I can remember laughing so hard at the stuff you guys would do that wasn't in the script knowing that you would do the stuff

verbatim as it was in the script knowing that you get your blows your chances later and I thought this is incredible like this this environment I remember you zach doing one of i've seen like uh the actor who played ross geller david schwimmer run into um he had an open laundry door and he like hits his head on it and falls over that's one of the most solid modern day pratfalls and you did one into a glass door that was like we were just we were just watching you know we were sitting by the monitors and i was like i remember thinking this and this is like years ago i remember thinking i could watch him do this all day long every time you didn't get tired of it you kept doing it every time you did it it was like seemed like better than the last well i wanted to get it right you know i i so enjoyed doing the physical comedy and and i would get competitive just with myself wanting to be

wanting to wanting to make a really good one. And, you know, that was a bit of my – that was my sport, if you will, trying to be good at it. I remember one time in one of the episodes you jumped out and I just improv'd, monster! Yeah, yeah. And, you know, the fun thing about the show, as you were just saying, was there was such a vibe of just safety. That is, this is a safe environment. Go nuts. Be adventurous.

You know, Bill will tell you. Obviously, get to it as written. But he'll tell you if he wants you to bring it down. But I was just watching this, your first episode, and you were making such bold choices. Right. So adventurous. Which is tricky because, you know, we had been, and you were making such bold choices. Right. So adventurous. Which is tricky because we'd been on the show. We're regulars.

We're there all the time. We had kind of built up that comfortableness for a guest star to come on and be like, all right, I'm going to do a bold character. I'm going to make bold choices. I was really impressed with you just watching it back because it's one thing if you don't like on your fifth episode. Here you are. This is your first time on set. You're a guest star of a, of a show that's,

that's really popular. And you, you came up with this character that, which was nothing like your character on Ed and was just bold and funny. But it was probably a lot to do with, like I say, just being around a place where people were like, Hey,

have fun. Enjoy. I think, I think it just bears repeating that your show was such a, such a place where you, you know, you welcome people to do that very thing you're talking about. I remember also being so impressed. I'm sorry to talk on about it, but it just, it just seemed like, I remember season six coming in and doing something. And I remember thinking, I remember watching on different shows. I'd done how, you know, people buy into like, well, how, what's our place in the universe of television?

Like, are we popular? Are we, you know, are we getting enough attention? And, um, and I think you guys probably had, you know, the envy, why don't they promote us? All that kind of stuff. But, but I remember coming in on season six and watching you had settled into this thing like this is us and this is for us and it was such a smart and intelligent way to understand that life is fleeting this is fleeting and so let's just all be for this show and when you when you come from a different place and you come into that it influenced

me for the rest of my career to go this is really what you want people who are having each other's backs who are for each other who want to just do this scene right now as best as they can and what more is that yeah speaking of doing a scene really well how fucking funny are you stealing the lab coat and going in to attend to a patient? That shit was hilarious. Yeah, Mr. Rickles. I laughed. Rickles. Rickles.

My name is Rickles. Before we do that, let's get into this recap. Oh, yeah. Sorry. So, Tom, every episode, Donald will sum it up. He has 30 seconds. I time. Yes, I know.

This is great. Okay. So, Donald, hold on. Getting my stopwatch up. He's been crushing it lately. He's I know. This is great. Okay, so Donald, hold on. Getting my stopwatch up. He's been crushing it lately. He's gotten a little cocky and ending early, which I don't like. I'd like you to fill your time,

Donald. This might go over. Okay. On your mark, get set, go. J.D.'s brother, Dan, comes to visit. He wrecks havoc on all of J.D.'s relationships. J.D JD wishes his brother would just grow up. Turk and Cox are beefing again, this time because both have good arguments on why their departments are better at saving lives.

By the act break, JD and Turk are ashamed. Turk of himself, JD of his brother. For Turk, it takes a lesson from an unexpected person for him to regain faith that he's doing his job the right way. For JD, it's him learning and understanding that not all people are built the same. Some people are content with who they are. How far did I go over? It's 36, but you had some fuck-ups, and I think the audience will forgive you.

Jeez, I thought it was amazing. It's well done. It's well done. I don't think you rehearsed this time. No, it's freaking... We're an hour into the damn show. I expected to do this 30, 40 minutes ago. We didn't know that Tom Cavanaugh was going to be so interesting. Listen, I knew Tom was going to be this interesting.

I thought we were going to get into the show earlier, dude. So what you're saying is that you rehearsed right before we went on the air, and now you're rusty? And I was rusty. If you give me another chance, I bet it's better. No, I don't want to hear it again. See? Good job. You know what? We'll have um speed it up a little bit no we can't

do that no no no no 36 seconds don't 36 well done though well done donald yes well that's that's the episode to remind tom we did this as a service to people who want a brief reminder of what the episode was smart tom uh tom comes to visit me he's been been driving a car across the country for $300, and he has no fear of Dr. Cox, which is just mind-boggling to me, and I'm squirming. I love that. I'm squirming as he meets Cox for the first time and is fucking with Dr. Cox.

Yo, that would be the best day of my life. If I went to my brother's job and he had a boss that was bullying him and i could freaking and i know that no matter what he's gonna get bullied anyway i'm gonna fuck some shit up then how about this oh word you're gonna mess with my little brother now i'm gonna mess with you yeah you don't remember on the day i think i remember on the day tom even being nervous in real life that you were because i was, you know, Johnny was Johnny. And we were versions of our characters. And we would just play that.

Now you came in as an alpha fucking with him. And I think I recall even on the day being a little uncomfortable. I think Johnny C. didn't like it. No, I'm sure he didn't. I'm sure he didn't. Because nobody in that hospital in the real world or on or in the world of the show fucked with him right and he had gotten quite comfortable with that and now here's someone who looks just like me fucking with him yeah yeah but that was great and then so the let's talk

about that rickles moment that was pretty fucking funny that shit was hilarious i love the fact that the reason why it's gonna happen is because he here'sambi, and you're like, all right, I don't want you to call me Bambi for the rest of my life. I'll let you wear the lab coat. Wear the lab coat. Wear the lab coat. And he walks in, and he goes, and we find out just before he walks in that the guy's got to live and that the surgery was – everything was a success. And the first thing Tom says, Dan says is, it was touch and go for them. Touch and go for them. Touch and go for them.

Yeah. Yeah. And then he goes, we got to look out for those little Rickles. And he goes, my name is Rickles. He's like, the little Rickles, the kids, their future. And then I go, okay, thank you. And you go, damn it, Bambi.

Give me a second, Bambi. I'm busy. Time to find a good nurse these days. It's so cruel. That shot was really funny by Michael Spiller when you turn around. Yeah. I'm always a sucker for the quick turnaround. Yes, of course.

Hey, damn it, Bambi, give me a second. Yeah. No, exactly right. Damn it, Bambi, I'm busy. Hilarious. Yes, good stuff. And now my nightmare would be my brother coming and flirting with someone that i had feelings for um and let alone also your friend i mean this is like always awkward when you

have a friend that's like i don't know if this guy's ever happened to you where like you broke up with someone and then you see your friends starting to like oh gosh and you're like what the fuck and and and i just i felt for jd as you as you and sarah are walking down the hall and flirting and yeah it's cool it's awful it's so fucking mean it's awful yeah and it's mean by the way it's mean on both parts it's mean on it's mean on i mean you guys have a brother you guys those two characters had a had a brother competition thing obviously but the fact that elliot was so willing to just like dive in and be all like giggly, that was so cruel.

Yeah, it was mean. It was like, ah, he's so funny. And he's not really that funny, but he was just being kidding. You're like, ah, yeah, no, that's okay. You just, ah. And then the idea that, wait, this is actually happening? This is happening? It is happening.

But I love how he realizes it's happening. Out of nowhere, you turn day to night by flicking a switch. That was funny. That was great. That was great. And then they start totally making out. Right. And then they pop back to reality.

And then in reality, I yell, stop your stupid laughing. It makes you look like a whore. Right. And then you're like, kidding. Just the worst thing you could say. And then, ha. The way I did it was like a whore. Right. And then you're like, kidding. Just the worst thing you could say. And then, ha. The way I did it was like vomiting it up. Like I couldn't hold in the rage any longer.

You spewed it out. Yeah. Stop your stupid laughing. It makes you look like a whore. Goodness gracious sakes. Great jump cut. Yeah. That must have been tricky to shoot.

We must have done the first part and then come back at night. We did. then we came back at night and sarah had this idea we were both chewing gum like spit the gum out um you know and then like you know have the all the one two three four were you chewing gum like throughout the whole scene or would you you both you know sometimes when you're an actor you know you're going to make out with someone you want to have fresh minty breath was it was it i think she i think she no i think she added uh gum later on because there was it is one of two things one is like you kiss the person then they have the gum that you had in your mouth right not great or you know pew pew and i think she we realized we could have a we could double down on the comedy moment by spitting our gum up before the food we used to have binaca on set, not just for...

Sure, I remember. You guys had the... You also had the things that melt in your mouth. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those give you heartburn. They give me heartburn, yeah. Both Donald and I would have too many and they would give us heartburn.

But the old school aerosol spray binaca, which is my favorite, we started having it just from we had kissing scenes and we didn't want to have bad breath for our scene partner but then it became like you know we were all friends and all up in each other's faces all day long we're like let's make a rule everybody we don't have bad breath and so we would like just be spraying it non-stop dude i remember it became how many can you spray in your mouth and i burn his mouth like 10 under the tongue just for shits and giggles that's eventually our boom operator uh velcroed one to the boom and um and we we called it boom naka

and we'd be like kevin boom naka and he would just dip the boom down we'd pull the aerosol off off the mic i was on velcro and then and attach it back up. That's grade A right there. That's some, yeah. We thought he was going to do it for like a day as a joke. It was up there for years. Same canister. Hopefully he changed it. Changed out.

I like when at 524 when Cox goes, will people please stop calling me Chief? Yes! And then Kelso walks by and goes, hey, numbnuts. Hey, numbnuts. Hey, numbnuts. Hey, how's it going, numbnuts? He had another one in there where it was like, I don't have time for pity or something like that.

Right when he's talking to Johnny Castle. Oh, yeah. I wrote that down, too. And why does, well, first of all, when you scare me in the shower, hilarious. That was the first of many scares. We did like 10. We did 10.

Do you remember that? I got air, bro. I remember waiting in the thing behind the curtain and like thinking, oh, maybe this one will do this. Like there was – we had like five or six different ones. And I think the first one was really terrifying for you. I remember that – it's funny. I just put two and two together. I guess we bought the

clear shower curtain that's in the opening of the show right because wasn't there a clear shower curtain when you scare me yeah no no isn't the shower curtain that it's opaque when i come out because you don't see me and then oh right and you have it looks like it's clear i thought hold on i have i have because you have you guys have that runner earlier on. Yeah. So we're shopping for a clear shower curtain. Yes. And then where is it? It is at 532. I'm just curious because it'd be funny if we happen to keep the shower.

Yeah, it's clear. Oh, goodness. How could it? How can you not see me? We bought it. We actually bought it. There you go. Okay.

Look at that continuity. Nice. Yeah, I mean, I get got air dude well you scared the shit out of me and um but i mean in real life and i think the character but i i obviously had a nice juicy map behind me because i like literally flew up yes yes it's solid and once again zach braff solid physical comedy the zach braff special it's good. I laughed when Laverne makes her own Halloween candy. She says she's dressed. First of all, she's dressed like Raggedy Ann.

And there's like this bowl of popcorn and homemade lollipops. And she says something like, if you want name brand stuff, this fist is packed with nuts or something. This episode was actually written by Tim Hobart. Yes. I believe, was he with us the first season or he came in on second season? Tim was not there first season. No, but he's a very funny writer.

So this is his first big episode. This is his first episode of the season then. Yeah. And also Mike Spiller's back as our director. We like Spiller a lot. This is the first episode in which I read on Scrubs Wiki. This is the first episode that you're ever called Gandhi by Dr. Cox. That's interesting.

Sarah's sister's actually one of the interns in this episode also. Yes. When Kelso's doing rounds in the beginning. Yes, when Kelso pulls, he hates the costumes, and he pulls some cat ears off. And that's Sarah's sister. Not her younger sister, obviously. That's her ears off her, and that's Sarah's sister. Not her younger sister, obviously. That's her older sister.

Yeah, it's her older sister. And then I noticed that Johnny Castle playing Doug, he takes off the clown nose and kisses it. And I remember on the day thinking that was so random and funny, but I have no idea why he does it. It's very weird. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, no, I know exactly what you're talking about.

He takes the clown nose. Kelso says, take that fucking costume off, and he takes the nose off, and he does it it's very weird do you know what i'm talking about yeah no i know exactly he takes the clown kelso says take that fucking costume off and he takes the nose off and he looks at it and he gives a little kiss before he puts his pocket which is just so weird and amazing i don't know why he did it but yeah the scene between you and johnny c when you win the bet is like to me that was just such classic scrubs because it's good in and of itself, but the comedy is just hilarious. Especially when you're celebrating and it kind of goes on, then it goes on, then it keeps going on, which I personally, it's funny. Then it's sort of maybe not funny. Then it's really funny because you just keep doing it. You do the backward walk.

And it's just all the different beats of your comedy there just had me laughing. And I'd forgotten the scene. And then there's that other level where he's like, yes. That's what your show did so well. It's like you have the great comedy, and that could just, on another show, that would just be enough. And then it's like there's a hammer, a gravitas that still works. It's beautiful.

It ends with you with a legit, serious moment considering this information. It's great. What's the matter, Joelle? You just look like you freaked out about something. Gina Price-Blythewood heard a thing I did and I love her. Sorry. Okay, let's go. Wait, what happened? I'm sorry. Wait, what happened? I think

since you distracted the show, you're going to have to share what happened. I'm sorry. Gina Price-Blythewood is an amazing director. She directed Love and Basketball and she just has a new movie out on Netflix called, oh my gosh, The Old Guard. Yes. Black lady who's been working for a very long time

and I love her. She used to write on Felicity, like season one of Felicity she wrote and then she went on to do Love and Basketball. Alright, but what happened that made your face light up? Because I thought it was Tom's use of the word gravitas she just noticed she just acknowledged my existence i'm so sorry i get so excited oh well congratulations what did she say what she like you're one of the articles you've written or something yeah i did a pod uh talking about the new movie and she was like this was so great i was like oh my god that's lovely okay that's always good to be seen mama don't be apologetic don't know that's great don't

apologize i just want the listeners to know from my point of view tom said the word gravitas and joelle's face lit up and she started like doing the hand thing where you might cry and i'm like wow joelle really loves the word gravitas she had better reasons to celebrate, Joelle. She had better reasons to celebrate. I'm glad to hear it wasn't gravitas and rather the old guard plug. That's great. That would be the funniest shit ever.

What? She just loves the word gravitas? Whenever she hears it, she has to fan her eyes? Gravitas! I love how, Donald, you're bragging about having two singles in your wallet. You say, hello, when he gives you the 20. Hello, Mr. Jackson. Yes.

Let me introduce you to the Washington Brothers. Right. Now you guys get nice and acquainted and comfy in my wallet. In my wallet. Your dancing there was so funny, man. Yes. I had a lot of fun doing that i'm sure i did it's it's really weird you know how things change because everybody did a michael jackson

impersonation back in the day everybody did it i can't recall the last time i've seen a michael jackson impersonation it's been a very very long time now you probably if we were doing the show now you probably wouldn't be doing so many Michael Jacksons. Now, I love a Growing Pains shout out. For those of you who were too young to know, Growing Pains was a very popular sitcom starring Kirk Cameron. And when we all go to lunch, I say, oh, no, I'm trying to defend Dan. Oh, no, he lives with my mom, but he's got his own area. He's like Kirk Cameron when he lived above the garage with Boner. And Kirk Cameron had a friend in the show named Boner, which made no sense.

Why was his friend named Boner? Everyone knows what a Boner is. Because his last name was Stabone. Stabone, Stabone. And his dad's name was Sylvester. But then you yell out to the room, Boner? Yeah. I'm like, come on.

Come on, everyone. Boner, Boner. It's too low-hanging fruit? No? Come room, Boner? I'm like, come on. Come on, everyone. Boner? Boner? Too low-hanging fruit? No? Come on, Boner? Speaking of low-hanging fruit. You guys didn't hear what I said. His dad's name was Sylvester and his last name's Stabone. Sylvester Stabone? Yeah.

Do you know the Growing Pains theme, Dom? Is that of Sylvester Stallone, Sylvester Stabone? Do you know the Growing Pains theme, Dom? No, I get it. Okay, it just wasn't that funny, I guess. I'm sorry. I thought it was hilarious when I first heard it. The joke is, wait a second, Boner, your dad's name is Sylvester Stabone? And then he turns back and looks at Mike and goes, who knew?

What a great joke. What a great joke. Can you sing the theme song for us. Donald, do you know the theme song? Tom, you might not know this, but Donald can sing almost every 80s theme song. If you tell me how it starts, I can sing it. That's amazing. Show me that smile again.

Show me that smile again. Okay, Zach, I got it. Don't waste another minute on your crying. We're nowhere near the end. The best is yet to begin. Oh! Oh! Okay.

Okay. Started too high. As long as we got each other. Yeah. We got the world hanging right in our hands. Hey. Baby, rain or shine. Left foot.

All the time. Okay. We've got each other sharing the laughter of love. Sharing the laughter of love. I'm going to release an album, Tom, of Donaldson's 80s theme songs. That's the show that did every season. They did a different version of that song. Oh, really?

They also, at some point, they had a baby. And then they were like, eh, the baby's boring. And next season, she's going to be five. And all of a sudden, nobody else aged, but the baby was all of a sudden five. They also fostered a kid for a little bit who was young Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh, that's right. That was a young Leo's first show, I believe.

Well, I don't know if it was his first, but he was... There's really cute... I've seen like, you know, when they do like, you know, remember who this little boy was? I've seen like his first interview.

He's like, I just love being an actor and I'm just happy to be with these guys. It was really cute. And now, look at him. Donald has a little Leo crush, Tom. He comes up almost every episode.

I love Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, so. One of my favorite actors of all time. One of our last episodes ended with Donald talking about trying to dock. No, no. What? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We'll explain later.

We'll go to break. We've got to guess. Let's go to break. We've got to go to break. We've got to guess, guys. We've got to no, no, no, no. We'll explain later. We'll go to break. We got to guess. Let's go to break. We got to go to break. We got to guess, guys. We got to guess. Wait, what about the... Wait, do we have to break?

Did Zach just... We should go to break, guys. I'm just saying. We should go to break. We'll be right back after Donald docks Leo. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Is that now? I did not say I wanted to dock with Leo. I just said I thought he was a great actor. We went to break. We went to break. No, we haven't gone to break yet. All right, now we're going to break.

I think we need to clarify this. Okay. Because I don't want it out there in the ethos that I'm walking around telling people I want to dock with Leo because that ain't what's happening here. Okay. That ain't what's happening here. Donald does not want to dock Leo, everybody. Yes, he does. We're going to break.

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and she accepts all the money. She accepts and she it's all accepts all the money she accepts all the money accepts all the money send you all the sending money to joelle do it the right way yeah don't send like send send the real deal holy feel it's not her fault if you don't get picked but money does help but you know cash is a little crass what you can sell send fruit baskets cash is crass cash is crass I don't know if anyone's ever said that before. It's a good line. Cash is crass. Cash is crass.

Send the woman a wine basket or some of God's lettuce. She'll take either one. OG Kush is preferred. OG Kush is preferred. Well, who do we have today for the Tom Cavanaugh, who's America's favorite older brother? We have ER nurse Christina. Oh, hi.

Christina! Hi, Christina. Hello. Where are you calling from, Christina? Houston. Houston in the house. Christina, you're an ER nurse, we heard. So that means you're going to get even more respect

than the average caller. We give our callers a lot of respect, but an ER nurse gets top respect. Frontline. Well, thank you. What's it like? What's it like right now? You guys are in Houston. It's a... It sucks. Yeah. What's the status? I think I had heard that Texas was legitimately running out of ICU beds.

Yeah. I mean, we tried to ship out a critical patient the other night and couldn't get a hospital that could take him in Houston. We tried to lifeline him out because we didn't have a specialist for it and could not find a hospital. It's tragic. Oh my God. It's tragic. My God. And people need to hear from people like you on the front lines, because I think a lot of people, you know, as we've talked about on the show, Donald and I lost a friend. And, and I think people like you who were on the front lines, people like us who've lost a loved one, we're seeing it. And Dan was explaining something on the show I thought that really landed with me that unless you're on the front lines and seeing it, you can kind of live in this sort of dream world where you, you know, you're just, you know, obviously I know people are suffering, they're not working and the kids aren't in school, but it can not, it's a little bit out of sight, out of mind. Whereas someone like you who's seeing this every single day,

it must be just very, very traumatic for you. You also see what COVID does to people too. Right. And, and, and, and a lot of people, that's something that A lot of people, that's something that Americans don't see. We don't see what's left of people after COVID has ravaged their bodies and wrecked havoc on their organs and stuff. So shout out to you. It's a slap in the face when we're risking our lives and then people are on here saying it's a hoax or that it's a, it's just frustrating because we don't have any reason to lie about it. Right. I know.

I know. By the way, we see that. By the way, we see that. I see even in our comments on, on Instagram. I don't know how you saw this, Donald. People were like, oh, enough of the mask talk. You're becoming like every other show. And I want to like throw my fucking phone at the wall because i was like

our friend just died so there's going to be some covid talk wear a fucking mask right but um anyway i i we we thank you for uh for i just think there's nothing more noble than uh than being a nurse and and there's extra cherry on top for doing it in the ER because the things you must see. And I want to thank y'all real quick for the video that y'all did with Neil Patrick Harris thanking all the health care workers. It did not get enough props, but it really meant something. Oh, thank you. Thank you. So let's switch to something more light since our main mission is to make people giggle a bit.

Do you have any questions for us about scrubs or anything? It could be about the flash. I don't know. My first question is, what's the craziest thing a fan has asked y'all? Oh my gosh. Have you ever signed anyone and then you saw them again and they were like,

I turned your signature into a tattoo? Yes, I've had that. When people get tattoos of you, is that weird? Yeah. I was talking about this yesterday. There's some really weird tattoos of me out there. And also, I actually like the ones. Some people have tattooed lines from Garden State that were meaningful to them, a film I wrote.

So that, I think, is really cool because something I came up with was meant enough to them to put on their body as a, as a, as whatever, a mantra, if you will. But, but I've seen like, like the weirdest faces I've made on scrubs where I'm like, you know, like screaming out of fear, like actually in this episode with Tom,

where I'm like screaming out of fear. And I've seen that on like someone's thigh. Donald, I saw a tattoo of you that as Turk, that looked so nothing like you. It looked nothing like me. It looked nothing like me. It looked like Charles Barkley. You're on my back, and it looked like Charles.

Literally, now, as a kid, I was a big fan of Charles Barkley, but it didn't look anything like me. It looked literally like Charles Barkley. The weirdest thing that's ever happened to me, I get a lot of people asking for it to Eagle. Yes. That happens to you a lot because they think you're very strong and they don't know.

I can hold a lot of people up there. Yeah. But it's, it's, it happens. You do let a lot more people mount you than I would ever. Listen, if you are brave enough to ask me,

I will most likely oblige. Now, that being said. Oh, you shouldn't say that, dude. Do you know how many people are going to ask to mount you now? He said most likely. He said most likely. Fine print. That being said.

That being said. Then the fine print, Tom, is like, you must be under a certain amount of weight before trying to mount Donald. Please ask all permission. Don't do it in front of his children or his wife will bitch slap you. Well done. The fine print truly is like it has to be a special occasion. It can't just be out of nowhere like you walk down the street and like,

let's eagle. That's not going to happen. It has to be, you know, it has to be something like if I'm at a conference and it's, you know what I mean? They got to catch you when you're not woozy yeah anyway so that's the one thing that that's the one thing that that's pretty weird is that being asked to eagle it's like really want to jump on my back you feel that comfortable right now to walk up to me and ask me to give you an ass and and ask me to give you a piggyback ride tom have you ever had a weird fan moments?

I bet some of your young flash fans have asked for something odd. I think just what you were saying earlier, I think it really tests your metal as an actor. When somebody suddenly unveils a tattoo of you on them, because you, you know, I think the reaction they're looking for is like, Oh, that's great. Wow. You know, but really your reaction is, ah! Right. Yeah.

Security! You know, and you really got to try and cover that as best you can because they've got, you know, permanent ink on their body. I'm just worried they're going to regret it. I'm just worried they're going to regret it. Of course. Of course. You're like, oh, why the fuck is it going to happen on my inner thigh? You naturally assume they're going to regret it.

You think the next day. You don't think you're going to end up seeing it ever but yeah of course it's going to be a massive regret we talked before you came on about how I'm going to get Donald on my face just my face tattooed Joelle reminded us that I should not

attempt to shade it in at all because I listened to your episode. Yeah, you listened to that episode. You're a blackface. Of course. Yeah, Joelle was just- You guys were very good on that.

Joelle just came on in a moment of nervousness being like, guys, guys, we talked about this. Here's the voice. Here's the voice of reason. Please listen to the voice of reason. I assured Joelle that it would be solely an outline of his beautiful face. How many people have sent you an appletini in the bar? Oh, that's a very good question. That's happened a bunch.

I've gotten sent a lot of appletinis. They don't – You don't like appletinis. Just be honest. It's very sweet. It's sugar. I don't – I mean, I understand it if you're young or if you're out for a night

and you want to have a funny cocktail. But I just think that you shouldn't get drunk on them because they are so filled with sugar. Headache galore the next day. I'm one of the owners of a restaurant in New York that I'll give a plug to now called the Mermaid Oyster Bar. Which street is the Mermaid? It's on 79 McDougal if you'd like to check it out when the world reopens. Do they serve oysters at this oyster bar? Yes, they have 16 different types of oysters.

Oh, wow. I love that you just said, do they serve oysters at this oyster bar? He was trying to see if it was legit. Oh, it is legit. They do serve oysters, so legit. He's being a good friend and trying to be like, tell us more about this. Oh, you probably want to know about our lobster roll, Donald. Do you have a lobster roll? Oh, we have the best lobster roll in

Manhattan. I'll tell you that right now. Really? Yeah. Yeah. My point was that the owner told me that he's like, do you have any idea why people keep coming in and ordering appletinis? Oh, that's funny. And he's like, I don't know, but can you make them? He's like, no, we're not making appletinis. Tell your

fans to stop ordering appletinis. Hilarious. When we were younger, they were tasty, though. I don't know. Do you like them, Christina? A little sweet for me. All right, do you have another question for us, Christina? So a Scrubs one, what is your most memorable scene that you filmed?

Oh, heavy question. Good question. Wow. Well, Tom can go first because he's the guest he's got less to think about because he's only did no so episodes it's easy it was just uh you know i loved almost every scene we did for comedy there was one where the three of us were um fart buddies where we did the farts yeah we were goofing around in the thing and then we had to you we were eating breakfast and then we had to go i had to go to the bathroom and it just became this long running i'll be in there for one minute two minutes five minutes ten minutes one minute um and then the other one was just the john ritter uh stuff to

have been like uh a part of that with with you guys, you know, it was meaningful, certainly. The bathtub scene. The bathtub scene was a little less fun than you might expect. At one point, John C. Reilly was like, by now you're sitting in what amounts to probably 80% of your own urine. And I think that was probably closer to the truth, so less fun. But at the same time time you know you it's one thing that i hear a lot you know the about the captain bubble beard or whatever the heck it was called anyway go you guys that's enough now you've had enough time i've stalled well enough i feel and now you guys have

the tarmac ready to talk about your best shows well we we answered something similar to this recently but i wonder if it's the same answer for you, Donald. Go ahead. Well, the Star Wars scene. Oh yeah, you're right. Also getting the opportunity to do an Indiana Jones situation in someone's colon was a lot of fun. Right. Doing the whole opening to Raiders of the Lost Ark

side of someone's colon. A lot of fun. And then, to be honest with you, one of my favorite scenes is a song but zach and i singing everything comes down to poo right still to this day is one of my like i watch that uh with a smile and i can't watch a lot of the things that i do but that's one thing that i've done where i'm like that was that was fucking a great time shooting that. Yeah. One of my favorite times was rappelling across the,

the fake city street on the universal backlot on the episode where Donald and I go on a quest to find Molly, Heather Graham's character. And we rappel across the street and then nail the wall. And I fall into a bunch of garbage. And then I get up and she looks at me and I act like I'm surprised to see her and I go Molly

what are you doing here that was just the most fun because you know do you remember how you got the to rappel across the rope which I pulled your shirt off of you no you pulled my gown off of me I did I have a gown on it or it wasn't a shirt it was a hospital gown and I go yeah I put a gown on it or it wasn't a shirt. It was a hospital gown.

Yeah. And I go, and I go, yeah, I pull it off and you gasp and then you're shirtless. And then I turn it, I turn, I turn into a thing to repel across the street.

And then, and then I go, Molly. And she goes, what are you doing here? And then all of a sudden you just see Donald in the background, drop down into frame, naked. you doing here and then all of a sudden you just see donald in the background drop down into frame so that was just so fun because you know we didn't always yeah as i've said before on the

podcast that episode was like so epic we didn't always do episodes that were that big and there we were like taking over the universal backlot uh to do that scene and i was directing and and uh it was just funny. I remember just laughing my ass off that night. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scrubs Rewatch Show is at 10.0 All right, well, we got to go because our show's going so incredibly long. But Christina, thank you. And in all sincerity, thank you so much for what

you do and for being on the front lines for us. Can I just get y'all to give a quick shout out to two of my best friends that are super jealous right now? Of course. Sure, absolutely. Preston and Nikki. Yo, Preston, Nikki, it's Donald Faison, and Oh, I'm Zach Braff.

And Zach Braff. Oh, and Tom Cavanaugh. Oh, sorry, and Tom Zach Braff. And Zach Braff. Oh, and Tom Cavanaugh. Oh, sorry. And Tom Cavanaugh. Preston and Nikki. What's happening, y'all? What's happening, y'all?

What's happening? Bye, Preston and Nikki. And bye, Christina. Thank you so much. Take care, Christina. Thank you, Christina. Now, listen, it's not beneath us at Scrubs to do a fart joke every now and then.

And in this episode- But your family loves to fart. The Dorians love to fart, Christina. Now, listen, it's not beneath us at Scrubs to do a fart joke every now and then. But your family loves to fart. The Dorians love to fart, dude. It's true. By the way, we were lucky enough to have the late John Ritter do a fart joke on the show before he passed away. And now we have the great Tom Cavanaugh honoring us with a fart joke. We sprinkle them around. You sprinkle them around is a good analogy. Your reaction is tremendous.

It's like, it's everywhere. It's everywhere. It's a man who can't escape. It's everywhere. It is so horrible, though, when someone is flatulent in a car and you don't have control of the window. Isn't it just a horrible, horrible moment of life? I think an airplane is worse, but yes. Airplane, you don't know the person is you don't know who no one thinks no one

everybody's staring straight ahead and there's that awkward moment on a plane where you're like you don't want anyone to think it's you yeah so you have to react you have to go oh jeez i always put my t-shirt over my nose so people know like like, oh, he's reacting. It's clearly not him. Right. It's just like when you go into the bathroom after somebody took a shit on the airplane. Yeah. And then you've got to come out and face all the people. I'm sure we've talked about this before.

We have. We talked about that horrible thing. And especially when you're in the public eye, you don't want someone to be like, dude, I was on a plane and Tom Cavanaugh crushed the bathroom. And meanwhile, you're thinking like, no, mother effer, that was the guy before me. I don't know. I don't know if I'd be that upset. But okay, yeah. I have anxiety about when I go into a bathroom and it's been just rocked.

And then I come out and I'm like, I didn't do that. That was someone before me. I have an anxiety about public restrooms, period, dude. Yeah. You put toilet paper down on the seat. Listen, man, we could go to the movies. The whole family, back when going to the movies was a thing, we'd be at the movie theater.

And the movie could be five minutes away from starting. If I feel even the slightest bit of a bubble in my guts, we're going home. Oh, really? I'm not shitting at a movie theater. Your poor kids. What do they do? They cry on the way home.

You brought your kids home because you had to poop. Listen, I remember one time going to a club and getting to the club and being at the club and, you know, about to dance, and it was lit that night and feeling a bubble in my guts and being like, you know, about to dance, and it was lit that night. And feeling a bubble in my guts and being like, you know what, I'm going home. Oh. At restaurants. So you never poo in public.

You never poo in public. I try my hardest not to poo in public. I have a phobia of it. It's, I don't know, man. Do you keep your outings to a concentric circle where you can make the getaway if you have to? No. There's been times where I was like, I got to do something. We got to do something.

Do you have friends? It's just something about a public restroom is – Yeah. I used to have that for a few years. For some reason, I can't do it. When I was a kid, I had it. I got over it. But one thing I can't do is if we're in the men's room and there's a line of stalls, I cannot poo if someone else

is in the stall. I have to wait until the stalls are empty. You don't want them to hear you. I just can't sit next to that, but also I can't sit next to the person and they're like farting and you hear them like, I can't.

It's too uncomfortable for me. What are they doing? They're pushing hard. You've got to hand it to them for their effort. They really have to go. I don't want to be that guy, man. I've been in the bathroom where another man did that and i was a kid i was very young and it was me and we were doing a commercial it was a basketball commercial what yeah it was a

basketball commercial i'm already jealous i know we should talk about basketball you have to come back on because we need to talk about our nba entertainment league days and all that stuff tom we have a lot of time on tom were you already since we since you're i accept i said awesome awesome you already come back you do well a fan? Okay, awesome. Awesome. You already come back. You heard this, Dan. You heard this, right? Yes.

So I was invited. So that's what those daily texts are going to be. Now, now, now, now. It's going in pop-up. You'll be back. You'll be back. But we were filming a basketball commercial, and I was very young, but I wasn't young enough where my parents had to be there.

But there was one kid who was very young, and his dad had to be there. And his dad would play basketball we were playing like we were all doing this you know uh uh the commercial so we were all playing like full courts on other basketball courts and we would play with his dad too and we i remember going to the bathroom me and a bunch of other dudes we were going to take a leak and the dad was in the bathroom and was having a real hard time uh pooping like the type of shit like the note like the type of stuff where it's like oh god damn oh oh man oh shit why why why you know what it's always bad when someone yells why what's happening there goes the corn that's the corn that's the corn

okay you don't have to say corn people might be eating when they listen to this okay we'll cut that out we'll cut out the corn no I want to leave it okay alright anyway my point is

I remember when he came out of the bathroom the shame on his poor son's face because we were like yo you're dead and they're blowing it up. And I think that's where my phobia comes from. Yeah.

I don't want to be that guy. When I was a kid, my mom took me into the stall with her. You know, I was of an age where she was obviously not leaving me alone. And a woman was really farting a lot as she was going poo. And then we came out to the sinks and I apparently turned to the woman and pointed and went, mom, that's the lady who was farting. Oh no. My mom says like to this day, that's the most embarrassing moment of her life.

Oh my goodness. All right. Kelso's the this day, that's the most embarrassing moment of her life. Amazing. Oh, my goodness. All right. Kelso's the gorilla. Kelso's the gorilla. By the way, Donald, I literally looked down at my notes. I looked down at my notes and saw, oh, that was a really funny reveal. Yeah, I thought that was very funny. Do you think Ken was ever in the suit?

Oh, I don't know. That's a great question. That is a great question. Let's ask Bill that one. Let's put Bill on it. All right. Let's ask Bill because, Bill, I'm sure you want to say hi to the Tom Cavanaugh.

And, you know, I did notice some of the fans were missing you and you're sabotaging our show by yelling the secret numbers. So, Bill, was Ken Jenkins ever in the gorilla suit? And also say hi to Tom Cavanaugh. Bill? Hey, guys. how you doing um question number ken jenkins in that gorilla suit i seem to recall is what i love about ken that you know trying to be respectful of actors i was like of course ken if you want to be the guy in the suit you know we and i think he cut me off and said bill if it's not gonna you're not

gonna see me i don't care if i'm ever in that gorilla suit so i do not think ken jenkins was ever in that thing um pretty sure uh and uh i respect him more for it also gotta say man uh not only one of my favorite guest stars on the show but an all-time good buddy tom cavanaugh hello sir oh hi tommy how you doing man uh i don't mean to uh steal this podcast but it has been way too long since we've seen each other it's been a there's got to be at least like four like five or six or seven or eight months five six seven eight no thank Of course. What a dick this guy is. Turn it off, Dan. Season two. Dan.

Get a new... You need a new trick trying to hijack our show. You know, speaking of tricks, the janitor never does his trick. I was asking. I was about to ask that. It's a writing flaw, Bill. Sorry. What was that about? Since you just tried to hijack. It's a writing flaw, Bill. Sorry. What was that about?

Since you just tried to hijack our show by saying the numbers, I will tell you, even though now you can't reply, that you're fucked up. Or Tim Hobert. Tim Hobert fucked up. Tim Hobert fucked up. Why do you lay in that the janitor's going to do a trick and he never does? I think it's a mislead for him being in the gorilla suit.

But he's like twice Ken's height height so that doesn't really work just saying um do you want to talk about how great it was to have tom cavanaugh on the podcast dude you have to come back you already said you will i'm in i'm gonna force your hand that was a that was a classic misplay on your two guys parts here you guys you guys like hey tom come back he's like he's obsessive. Joel's going to be like, all he does is email me. He's like, please. This episode? Hey, just come back. Come back.

Can I come back? Dude, we have some stories, you and I. We've played a lot of basketball together. And so the next time you're on, we'll talk all about that. You guys will talk sports ball. Yeah, you can go grab a tea, and we'll talk hoops. And then you can come back 10 minutes later. I will just put on Dear Evan Hansen and listen the whole time.

And you guys will wave on the Zoom call when it's open. Perfect. No, seriously, man. We love you. You're great. I'm so happy to be part of this. Thank you guys for having me on. I'm grateful.

Thank you. Thank you. And thank you to Daniel and Joelle and Donald. Do you want to lead us in song? I love you, Donald Faison. I love you, Zach Braff. And we love you listeners. Thank you for listening and for being amazing and subscribe to this.

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