Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Reid Scott Nearly Cast as JD on Scrubs?!
Episode Date: January 21, 2025Reid Scott might be best known for his role as Dan Egan on Veep. He tells Zach and Donald about the early days of working on the comedy in Baltimore, Maryland. Despite frequently playing a jerk, he's ...got a big heart and shares his vulnerability around improving with some of the greatest comedians working. Plus Zach and Donald have an official doughnut out for sale right now. Zach's got a new lady awaiting the Donald cut.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I like your hat.
I wore mine a couple of times. Your holy grail donuts hat? My holy grail your hat. I wore mine a couple of times.
Your Holy Grail Donuts hat?
My Holy Grail Donuts hat. By this time, our donut might not be on the menu anymore.
No, it's not. It's till the end of November. But I took a lady friend of mine,
because I thought, what's a more power move than bringing a gal that you are intrigued by to eat your donut at Holy Grail
Donuts.
Did she get all up in that donut?
Well, we got there and I just walked in.
I didn't try and be like, I'm the guy from the donut.
I just walked in like a normal customer and the young lady at the cashier rang me up and
then some of her colleagues were like,
why are you charging him?
That's Zach from ZB and Donald Forever, the donut.
And I said, no, no, no, I want to pay.
I want to give money to the charity.
So don't you comp me these donuts.
I like that.
There's proceeds that are going to the midnight mission.
So-
How's the donut doing? That's the question I really want to ask. I hope that are going to the midnight mission. So how's the donut doing?
That's the question I really want to ask.
I hope that people are loving the donut.
And it tasted delicious, by the way.
It's very tasty.
My lady friend said, I think that's the best donut I've ever had.
I like your lady friend a lot.
I'm surprised you haven't commented on me.
You never met her. We'll see.
You know, it's early days.
We'll see if you get to meet her.
She makes the Donald cut.
It's a tough cut.
But it's a cool hat, right?
It's corduroy, it's yellow.
I've worn one a couple of times.
You rocked this.
This is very Daniel and Brooklyn vibes.
Absolutely.
I was looking at it, I was like, that is a very cool hat.
I was just at Holy Grail Donuts a couple of weeks ago.
Did you get ZB and Donald's forever?
I did not see.
Oh, you're in New York. You can't go.
No.
You haven't branched out to New York yet, but one day.
Right. Yeah.
I think I just stopped it and didn't actually get something.
I just walked in and saw it.
I know I'm biased, but it is so good.
So delicious.
It's scrumptious, diddivelyumptious is what it is.
I didn't sleep very well last night.
I had a bout of insomnia.
So I thought if I, I just did a cold plunge
and I thought if I wore bright colors,
I would be really awake for this podcast.
Wait a minute.
What do you mean you didn't sleep very well
so you cold plunged?
I had, some nights I have bouts of insomnia
where I toss and turn no matter what I do.
And I wanted to be, you know, awake and lively
for the podcast.
So I got in my cold plunge.
Got it.
I thought you were saying
you were having a hard time sleeping.
So to battle that last night, you decided to cold plunge.
No, that would not have worked, Donald.
I don't think, I was gonna say, dude,
I think your math's a little off in that one.
Some nights my brain is just like,
we're not doing it, bro.
I know you tried all the things.
I did all the things.
I did all my whole regimen to fucking go to bed.
And my brain was like, no,
we're gonna fucking think till 2.30 in the morning.
Wow.
Did you have something to do the next day?
Nah, I just had a couple of things on my mind.
And I also do think I need to chill with caffeine,
to be honest.
I think I got to do an earlier caffeine cutoff.
That's-
Do you have a caffeine cutoff?
You know-
Vaino, you do.
Yeah, definitely.
I'm learning as a 50 year old man,
that the caffeine,
I don't even think it wakes me up anymore.
You know what I mean?
It doesn't do.
It's just an addiction.
It feels nice.
Yeah, that's what it is.
You just like that little jitter that you get
and the bowel movement that it causes.
I think when we're on set,
you and I both have many years of being like,
oh shit, we're tired and we gotta go be silly and wacky
and fucking go crazy.
And we both blast our bodies with caffeine.
And that's fine on set, but when I'm home,
and it's just like, you know, it'll be like 2.30
and I'm like, oh man, I'm gonna make myself
a big ass espresso. And I just don't need to be having it that late in the day. For me, I'm like, oh man, I'm gonna make myself a big ass espresso
and I just don't need to be having it that late in the day.
For me, I gotta like stop at like noon, I think.
And I mean, ain't nothing wrong with an espresso at noon,
but that's just me.
That's just me.
But you don't suffer from something,
but also you smoke a lot of ganja.
Does the ganja put you to bed?
It keeps you up actually.
What happens is the ganja can knock you down.
Oh yeah, well maybe if you don't, you're not switching to the right. You're not switching to what do you call it?
What? So yeah, I smoke.
No, indica. I smoke sativa, not indica, right? I like the feeling of being, I like the caffeine
feeling of it, right? And what happens is I'll go to bed early, but I'll also wake up early. So if
I go to bed, I'll try to go down sometimes
right when the kids go down.
So sometimes the kids go down at 8.30,
I'll try and be in bed at nine.
And when I do shit like that,
I'll wake up at like 3.30, 4.30 in the morning.
Whoa, that's really early.
Ready to go.
Yeah, ready to go.
To smoke some more weed usually.
And so.
Yeah, I hear you.
Well, I try everything. I try natural remedies. I try prescription
remedies and then the prescription ones sometimes you feel the next day and so you're tired
and I don't know, it's just something I battle. But you know, it's not that big a deal. It's
not it's people have much bigger problems than insomnia. Well, I mean, it can lead to a lot of things.
And so, you know, I don't sleep well, bro.
I just don't.
That's just what it is.
Yeah.
Do you see this mustache I'm trying to grow?
Oh, look at that.
What do you think about it?
I'm trying to grow a mustache.
Looks like you got some, like,
like you drank some, you have some shit on your lip.
Shit on my lip?
What are you talking about?
Some mustache?
Oh, you're saying my mustache looks like shit on my lip?
It looks like you went like this.
Accurate sound effects machine.
Well, I'll tell you.
It's looking good.
Listen, I want to see what I can do with this mustache.
Donald, you both, I'm talking to two men
with glorious mustaches.
I do have a great mustache.
Daniel's beard, man, that's very full.
That's very impressive, Daniel.
Speaking of full beards, I went to Inuit Dome
and watched the Clippers play.
Which the Inuit Dome, so how was that?
How does full, oh, gotcha.
Not bad, great job, James Harden, good job.
I've never seen a more glorious beard than James.
Nice segue, my guy.
So how is the intuitive?
It's very beautiful.
First of all, it's all state of the art.
The whole I think they call it the halo of screens is really cool.
It seems smaller than other arenas.
I think I don't know how many it seats,
but it's certainly not nearly as big as Staples.
But like they said, they have the wall,
like the seats are very steep,
so everyone has a pretty sick view.
And...
That's always good.
And you know, I don't know if the Jazz and the Clippers,
if that was a particularly good matchup.
Donald, did you watch the game?
You know what?
I just saw the blowout that was the Jazz and the Clippers.
Clippers destroyed them.
And then the next night, went out and beat Golden State
by three.
James Harden is now second on the all time
three point scoring list. There's
only one other person on that list that's above him. And that person is Steph Curry.
And they're both in the league right now.
Wow. So James Harden is really good.
James Harden at one point, I mean, he's top 75. James Harden at one point was the best offensive weapon
in the NBA at one point for like three seasons straight.
He developed, he paid attention to the rules of the game
and developed, let me see, what would I call it?
I found a loophole and has now developed this thing called,
I mean, the step back was always there,
but now because of this, what's called a gather in the NBA,
after you gather, you're allowed two steps.
And he found a way to turn his gather from his bounce
behind a three point line into a step side to side, which is now
legal in the NBA, which was never legal.
And he was able to score so many fucking points doing that.
Wait, hold on.
That and freaking throwing his body into defenders and getting fouled.
Oh my God.
At one point, nobody could score in clips like him.
And still, to this day, he's pretty good.
Can I tell you something I noticed from sitting on the floor
that I never noticed before?
It seems like everybody's traveling.
Now, maybe I don't understand the traveling rules.
No, you're right.
You're absolutely right.
But it seems to me when you're sitting on the court,
you're like, the little I remember
of basketball rules, like, isn't that traveling? But then people are like, no, you're allowed
to do all the shit you're saying.
Yeah, dude, the rules change. A lot of things changed since we were kids.
People are just running. It's like dodgeball.
And no touching either. And no touching. What do you mean no touching? It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's put your hands on somebody, it's a foul automatically, right?
And so, right, so you have to move your feet,
you have to use your body,
and they're still fouling each other,
but refs don't call it,
like, I mean, they never called it back in the day,
but it's a little bit softer than it was.
I'm not saying it's soft.
So you say after you have the ball,
you can take two full steps. No, So you say after you have the ball, you can take two full steps.
No, after you have the ball,
you're supposed to only be able to take a step
after you've put the ball down to dribble.
That's not happening.
I'm telling everyone. Absolutely not.
I'm hearing a report that's not what's happening.
Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
And there actually was one traveling call
and I was like, you called that one,
but not the 40 others I've seen?
Yeah.
That's very astute, Zach, actually.
That's very astute because basketball,
that's the one complaint I do have with basketball.
Giannis Entetokounmpo gets to run up and down the court
like a deer and never put the ball down on the floor.
Yeah.
Speaking of astute, Zach, you were right.
Crypto.com Marina Staples, if you will,
has a 20,000 person cap and Intuit Dome has 18.
So just a few more.
Yeah, and then I heard when they do concerts there,
which they just opened, they remove a big chunk
because of where they put the-
Stage.
Stage, so it's even less.
But it seems like an amazing place to see a show
because of just all the different vantage points.
Think about all the venues California has now.
Like if you're doing a tour,
you have like seven stops in California.
You gotta do crypto, you gotta do the new one.
I guess you just choose by how big you are,
how much you can handle.
I think Olivia Rodrigo was there recently.
I would try to do all of them.
I'd be like, look, this is what we doing.
When we get to LA.
Well, you can't, because you can't shoot your LA WOD.
You gotta shoot it at one place,
because people aren't gonna come.
Harry Styles was here for a month, bro.
Yeah, the same venue over and over.
Well, I see Sabrina Carpenter's here, yeah,
but they do the same venue over and over again.
Anyway, it was really cool.
And they have this private,
you know how like we talked about the Disney secret club?
They have a secret club. Club 33.
Yeah, they have like a secret club underneath
the, that I got invited to.
And it's not open every game or every show,
but like, I don't know, like once a month or something,
or maybe after concerts, they'll do it too.
There's like a secret underground club.
Did you go?
I went, yeah, it was cool.
DJ?
It was just like, it's like a small hidden nightclub that you can only,
that's by invite only.
And then they told me this bit of trivia that I don't know if it's true, but it's, they
said it, that it's the only place in California that will serve liquor till four in the morning
legally.
Like they got some waiver from the governor that this little secret nightclub at the bottom
of the dome is the only place
that you can drink till four in the morning.
Bomber smart man.
He's trying to keep his players close.
He's trying to make sure-
Well, the players didn't come in there.
I mean, I didn't see any players.
Well, you didn't stay till four o'clock in the morning either.
It was like a VIP, you know, clurb.
Were there celebrities up in there?
Yeah, there was some celebrities.
Or it wasn't grownups.
No, there was.
Clippers bring in a grown crowd.
What's the different,
like who's the crowd for the Clippers?
I would say the ones that don't go to Laker games.
Oh really?
They're like the stepchild?
Absolutely, yes. Now, but Lakers Clippers games will be great, right?
Oh, oof. It depends. Look, so here's the thing.
The Clippers haven't won in a really, really, really...
I think Bill Walton was the last time the Clippers won,
and they were in San Diego when they won a championship.
Even when you go see the Clippers play the Lakers
in this arena, it'll be filled with more Laker fans
than Clipper fans.
It's just hard by the way.
The only thing I have a problem with is far.
Englewood?
Well, from my house, it was an hour.
I don't know.
It would be really far from your house.
Well, we make that.
We make tracks like that for basketball, for the be really far from your house. Well, we make that, we make tracks like that
for basketball, for the kid, for rock.
And so, you know, 45 minutes in the car nowadays.
Well, if you want to bring your kids to the Clippers,
I got the hookup.
We would love that actually.
Last night's game was amazing.
When I showed you my seats,
you said you acted like they weren't good and then I said
Then you get you were like just kidding. Yeah, exactly. Don't fucking make me
I knew who was there was Floyd May Mayweather Mayweather Mayweather Floyd Mayweather. Yeah
He's one of the greatest boxers ever. Yeah, I want him to fight Jake Paul
No, no, he's too old to. Oh, he fought Logan Paul, right?
Yeah, he's too old.
Oh, he fought Logan Paul?
Yeah.
Did he win?
Did he beat him?
Well, yeah, he did.
He knocked that nigga out.
He knocked that nigga out.
Oh, he did?
Yeah, he did.
He knocked him out and then held him up.
He punched that motherfucker hard and then held him.
And then Logan woke up and then they continued to fight.
Kind of.
All right. So I got it. Let's talk about this before we bring our guest in.
Yeah, we don't have a ton of time.
So let's get into it.
We gotta get into it.
All right.
But keep in mind, this is gonna air long
after the fight was on.
So don't bore people, but go ahead.
What did you think of the fight?
I thought I was surprised by Mike.
I thought he was gonna be better.
The hype videos that they showed,
I know they're just clips
and they can cut anything together,
but he looked stronger and more confident
in the hype videos.
I was surprised by how old and fragile he looked
in the ring.
And Jake Paul, I saw him even say at the end,
like I let up because I didn't wanna like hurt him.
And I applaud him for that also because at one point he was just fighting an old man, dude.
Yeah, I was bad at one point the whole time.
No, I don't know.
In the beginning, Mike seemed like he was ready to go and then they clenched.
And then after the clench, Mike kind of softened up and everything like that.
But in the beginning, before Jake put the weight on him, in the beginning, oh my God,
there was like a good 30 seconds where I was like,
this is gonna be a fight.
And then everything kind of settled.
After he got punched a few times,
Mike didn't look good at all.
But he didn't get knocked out, which is great.
You know what I mean?
And I applaud Jake Paul for backing off toward the end and not trying to, you know what I mean? And I applaud Jake Paul for backing off toward the end
and not trying to, you know, and then what was disturbing
was listening to Jake Paul's trainers being,
and I get it, it's boxing, this is what it is,
but Jake Paul's trainers saying,
come on man, knock Mike out, go at that motherfucker,
beat Mike's ass.
It was just like, wait a second, dude
Why was Rosie Perez the commentator?
You know, she's from Brooklyn. She she knows about them handpieces. I just didn't understand the connection
I mean, I love Rosie Perez. I didn't understand the she know about a two-piece and a biscuit
Did you could you get in there and not and fight no, okay, I
Fight for my family and I fight for my life.
I don't fight for, I mean,
unless I was getting $20 million and if,
and wait, hold up, and if Jake Paul
was gonna take it easy on me like that, yes.
For $20 million, would you fight Jake Paul?
To, and he was gonna fight like that?
And not try and knock me out and humiliate me?
Well, no, I think he's gonna try and knock you out
because you're not Tyson.
Nah, bro.
Nah, bro.
All right, well before-
20 million?
Well, let me think about it.
20 million?
Yeah.
You gotta think about the concussion.
Yeah, I don't watch that.
He trains every day.
Yeah, he's really committed.
I train a little bit.
By the way, I don't know the guy from Adam,
but he looks like a good boxer to me.
He's heavier than I am. I really like the movie, I don't know the guy from Adam, but he looks like a good boxer to me. He's heavier than I am.
I really liked the movie, Anorah.
I really wanna highly recommend that to my friends.
Oh, since we are recommending movies.
Okay, tell me about Anorah.
Anorah is an incredible movie.
I'm speechless.
It's just this girl, her name is,
is it Mikey Madsen, Danel?
Let me check real quick.
Let me get her name right.
But she is just a phenomenal actress.
She was on Better Things as a young teenage girl.
And now she's a young woman.
And the movie is sort of a Cinderella story
about the son of a Russian oligarch.
And he falls in love with this woman
who's a stripper and a sex worker.
And then they go get married.
I won't ruin anything that's not in the trailer.
They go get married and then the Russian oligarch father and his henchmen fly into town to make
sure that that gets broken up.
But it is really, really well acted and I was blown away by it.
Mikey Madison. Mikey Madison.
Mikey Madison is her name.
She is so talented.
I think this young lady could win the Oscar.
She is phenomenal.
Anora, I was lucky enough to have the screener,
so I watched it at home, but it's still playing in theaters
or maybe by the time this airs, it'll be streaming.
Right, Daniel?
Because this airs in January. This airs in January. I, it'll be streaming. Right, Daniel? Because this airs in January.
It's airs in January.
I bet it will be on your streaming platform.
So check out Onora, A-N-O-R-A.
What do you want to recommend, Donald?
I watched two movies, believe it or not.
Really? What were they?
I watched Saturday Night.
Oh, I didn't know that was available for the streaming.
I'm going to say, I I'm gonna be honest with you,
these young actors and actresses in this movie
are pretty good, man, at doing these.
Look, man, it's very interesting to watch a movie
and see somebody who can make you feel like,
wow, that is Dan Aykroyd, or wow, that is Chevy Chase.
Not necessarily, I don't know them personally,
but my imagination of them or my interpretation of them
from watching them, these young men and women
did their thing, man.
Like, I was very, it was very impressive.
And if this is a true story,
Laura Michaels, you the real OG, man.
You the true OG. I think it is a true story. If it's a true story, I Michaels, you the real OG, man. You the true OG.
I think it is a true story.
If it's a true story, I mean, I don't know much.
I don't know Lauren very well.
I've met him once, but dude, you are a G, man,
and way to believe in your cast,
and way to believe in your idea, and wow, dude, wow.
I'm gonna check that out.
I can't believe you made it through a non- non superhero movie. What's the other thing you watched?
Alien Romulus.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Do you really like that?
It was pretty good.
All right, Reed Scott is here.
What a career this guy's had.
Dude, he works, yo.
He works.
A lot.
And he's got a lot of good stories.
He's on Veep and Maisel, and he's
often known for playing the jerk.
But I've met him, and he's a lovely man.
Donald, count us in for Reed Scott.
5, 6, 7, Reed!
About show we made, about a bunch of docs and nurses, and a janitor who loved the hate I said here's our stories
That we all should know
So gather around to hear our
Gather around to hear our scrubs rewatch show with Zach and Dono
Re there he is look at he is. Look at you.
Look at you.
You're so handsome.
Are you home?
Are you working?
Oh, thank you so much.
Where are you?
He's Ree Scott.
He's always working.
He's probably at work right now.
A guy gets more work than anybody.
This guy doesn't ever have a time off.
I am.
I'm in New York right now.
I'm in New York.
Ree, thanks for coming on, man.
Donald and I both find you very entertaining.
Thank you. Likewise.
You you work a lot, a lot, a lot.
Can you help Donald and I get my work?
I want to understand how this is possible, bro.
Yes, it's not very.
And is this all an illusion?
Like you work a lot in spurts and all of a sudden you're
do you ever have time off?
That's the question.
Yeah, you know, I mean, I feel like any actor,
you sort of, you have the time off
exactly when you don't want it.
Yeah.
You know, so.
I don't want it now.
Yeah, you know, it comes and goes.
I'm extremely grateful that at the moment I am busy,
but you know, look, like anybody,
during COVID, COVID was rough and the strike was rough.
And I have a family, I have a wife and two kids.
So time off is certainly important to me,
but I think, you know, right now I like being busy.
I wish I could be busier at home.
I'll be honest with that.
It's kind of a drag to always be on the road, but.
Yeah, now where are you based?
I'm based in LA.
Okay. Yeah.
Reed, we had Tony Hale on the show
because Donald and I both love Veep so much.
And we were just, we're so interested in the process.
And I'm sure you've talked about this a thousand times,
but please indulge us.
Sure.
What was it like, because when Donald and I made scrubs,
we would rehearse on the day and we would find extra jokes
and we were allowed to improv and stuff.
But the VEEP process sounds like it was a little unique
in that you guys made, you would rehearse beforehand
and then some of those improvs would go into the script.
How did that, how did that work?
The best way to describe it.
And I love pulling back the curtain on VEEP and so many people, it's really
interesting that so many people are interested in the process of, of how we
made VEEP, which I gotta be honest of all the other things I've done,
no one's ever really given a shit about the process.
Oh, we are, because we're actors and we love comedy.
We're up in it, dude.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
And that was top notch comedy.
Yeah, so funny.
And everybody on that show was really incredible
and stuff like that.
And the way it was shot too, and so we're just wondering,
Yeah.
You know, to get to, this is why, I shot too. And so we're just wondering, you know, to get to,
this is why, I mean, that's why we're asking, sorry.
Oh, 100%.
No, I love talking about it,
because it was so unique, honestly.
And I think it's something that, you know,
you guys obviously know comedy well.
So I think people that have an eye for comedy
can see that something was very different
about how we did Veep.
And I think that's what sort of, you know, naturally leads to that question of what was
the process.
Like the best and easiest way that I have found to describe it is it was a distillation
process.
And Armando Iannucci, absolute genius, just comedy genius. He ran our show like a laboratory
and he was Dr. Frankenstein
and we were all part of his experiment.
And then it was really cool.
He didn't really, there was a lot of respect
and he led us into the process
in a way that actors don't usually get let
into the writing process of a show like he led us in.
But yeah, he would have us come to London for weeks
before we would start shooting,
some months before we were set to start shooting.
And there would be scripts and some sort of sketches
and some outlines of future episodes.
And we would just rehearse.
We would get it on its feet as quickly
as possible, talking through it, we would rehearse it as written and there'd be this
sort of like phalanx of British writers on the outside of this like large conference
room that we were in and they're all like furiously like scribbling notes and typing
away while we're doing it and you're feeling very judged, at least in the early days.
And we'd be encouraged to improvise a bit and then we'd go away, we'd go to, you know, go out to dinner,
you know, go to sleep, come back the next day. And the writers during the night had rewritten
the scripts to incorporate the improv or like, you know, they cherry picked the fun stuff that we came up with
on that previous day and they would bake that
into the next script and then we would do it all again
and again and again and again and we would do this
for sometimes four, five, six, seven scripts at a time.
So.
That's so cool.
I've never heard of another TV show doing that. And I think it was good reason to be honest. It was hard. I know, I mean, look's so cool. I've never heard of another TV show doing that.
And I think it was good reason to be honest.
It was hard.
I mean, look at the results.
Look at the results they got.
And also I think shows kind of do it,
but it's a way more rushed project.
So like five camera or four camera,
that's we're gonna write, we'll do the run through.
If you, you know, on some shows you're encouraged
to improv, if it works, the next day your improv's
in the script all the way up until, you know, you shoot.
But that's five days.
You guys would take, that's really impressive.
And then take time off after, would it ever be the same
when you got there?
We're like, when you got to shoot it,
would the blocking still be the same?
Oh, no.
No, no.
It was really more like we used the rehearsal process.
We call it the basement tapes, because it really
was the stuff that was just sort of, we had like dramaturges.
It was really weird.
Like we had these group of assistants
that effectively were dramaturges,
and they were just taking notes on continuity. And oh, this goes back to that. And they would just, we had volumes of notes
that we could refer back to. And it was a very unselfish process and that someone would come up
with a joke for themselves or for someone else or a writer would come up with a joke. And we'd love
it on the day. We were like, wait, where did that come from? But isn't that calling back? And no one
knew who came up with it.
And no one cared, that wasn't really the point.
We would do it on scrubs,
but it was like the classic way in the moment.
So it's like, okay, we get to blocking rehearsal,
where we do it as written.
And then between the actors,
some who improv more than others,
and then Bill and the other writers,
we would tweak it, add that joke.
Oh, that's funny, I'll improv this.
Then we would do it.
And then after we did it,
and then we would start just riffing stuff.
And Bill's big rule was just get it as written,
and then you can fuck around.
And then we would do things where like,
if you just had a punchline,
you would just do like six things in a row,
just so in the edit room,
he'd have all these options for which one might work.
But the idea of like taking that process
and going to another country and just sort of workshopping it,
I mean, that's brilliant.
And that takes commitment from the cast
and from the writers and money and a lot of dedication,
that's just not something that I've seen
in another show do.
And the proof is in the pudding because the show is just,
to me, on the next level of funny.
I-
There's no way you could come away from that
not knowing who your character was.
Oh God, no, no, you're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right.
You felt a real custodianship over your character was. Oh, God, no, no, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. You felt a real custodianship over your character
very early on and and to the writer's credit and to Armando's credit.
And then even, you know, the new when Armando
left the show after season four and David Mandel,
you know, from Seinfeld and from Curb, yeah, came in and sort of took over.
They honored that process
and they sort of honored that relationship.
And I remember specifically when David came aboard,
he called us all individually and was like,
you know your character, and he said this to everybody,
you guys know your character better
than any of these writers because you've lived it.
You've done this crazy process.
So we want to hear from you.
Like you guide us, you tell us what's inside,
like what's out of bounds.
Tell us when we go too far,
tell us when to pull it back in.
And it was amazing to have that kind of input.
I appreciate it more now in retrospect.
At the time, I found it incredibly difficult.
I really did.
I didn't know what.
Why?
Because you didn't feel comfortable
with the improvisational stuff?
There was a little bit of that
just because we were called upon so much
to do so much improvising.
And I, you know, I have a background in improv,
but I mean, when you're running alongside, you know,
Matt Walsh, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Tony Hale,
it's like, at least in the early days, there was a lot,
I felt there was a lot of pressure to keep up
and to always be like, you know, how do I be funny?
How do I pop these like these little one-liners off?
And just that process of, even when we were in Baltimore
in the dark days of shooting in Baltimore.
That's when you started?
You started shooting it there?
We did the first four seasons in Baltimore.
Oh, I didn't know that.
That was just to have the access to the exteriors and stuff?
Exactly, exactly right, yeah.
And then in later seasons,
you would just go there for like a week or something?
Yeah, we'd go to DC and we'd come back to Baltimore.
We came to New York a couple couple times to get exteriors.
But where were the sets?
They were in LA?
No, during the Baltimore days, they had a set built.
It was a canold mattress factory in Columbia, Maryland.
Oh my gosh.
I didn't know that.
Not soundproof, not heated.
No, they never are when you're not in L.A. Nope.
They always think we'll just find a warehouse, but then
yeah, it doesn't really work.
It's like, where's the bathroom?
Oh, that's what we forgot.
But also because we were there together, you know,
we were sequestered essentially in Baltimore,
so there was nothing else to do on the weekend.
So we rehearsed.
So Saturdays and Sundays, we'd all go into the studio
and just like fuck around and like try to come up with.
Wow.
Holy shit.
It really shows how special it was.
You're such a good asshole.
Do you find?
Ah!
No, you play a prick so well.
I wonder when people who are fans
and even Maisel, which we'll get into,
you were such a fucking asshole.
Do you feel, are people surprised when they meet you
and are they expecting you to be a jerk?
I think maybe a little bit.
I know I did a movie with David Wayne,
who again, comedy genius, who I really,
I came up high school and college watching the state was the state and
upright citizens brigade were everything to me.
I had never seen comedy like that before.
And that really inspired me to, to try to be a part of it.
So I worked with David Wayne on a movie that Matt Walsh produced and we were
shooting in France and we showed up.
And the first few days it was, it was I wasn't shooting for a couple
days but we're just sort of hanging out and I got to know David and he turned to me one
day at breakfast and he's like it's like a prosthetic. I was like what well sorry what
he's like the character your character in Veep he's like the way you put it on in contrast
to you he's like it's like a prosthetic. And I was like, thank you very much.
I really appreciated that.
Because it's not me.
Right, but that's an awesome compliment, man.
It's like you put this fucking, you had this nose
and you were like, you know what, let me just.
I loved it.
And I loved it.
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oh, I love Reed. He's such a good actor. And I knew, I thought I heard that you were up
for JD, but I didn't ever tell me the story because I, we should do that by the way. We
should have some, I don't know if some of the people that got that I read with, I don't
know if they'd want to come on, but well, actually, you know,
Oh my God. I love it. I love it. Dude, Scrubs was a fucking awesome show.
I saw, I've seen every episode, every single episode.
You guys were doing something just so we can officially,
get all the mutual,
adoration and shit out of the way.
You guys were doing stuff that no one else was doing.
It was a different brand of comedy at the time.
And I, as appreciated as it was,
I still think it's gonna be something
that future generations are gonna find later
and be like, oh shit, this was way different
than what people were doing at that time.
Wait, so tell us what your,
please tell me what your audition experience was like
and you obviously did great because Bill loves you,
so what was it like?
It was my first audition.
It was my very-
Really, ever?
Ever, ever.
I mean, I maybe had like, you know,
like for a commercial or something like that before,
but I remember reading the script
and just falling in love with it.
Absolutely falling in love with it
and loving the character and loving the tone.
And I just got it.
It was one of those things where immediately
I was like, whether I become a part of the show or not, like this is a good show. And
I went in for it and was incredibly nervous. And I remember there was a casting director.
Oh my god, his name escapes me right now. Out of New York. It was a Brad.
No, what's his name?
Brett.
Brett.
Brett.
Was it Brett?
Yeah.
Was that it?
I'll take your word for it.
God, it's been.
Well, we're not great with names.
We're not.
But I remember I loved it.
And I thought I did great.
I really like. Brett and Tebby. Is that right? Way to I did great. I really like.
And Debbie, Brett and Debbie.
Is that right?
Way to go with that.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I walked out of there thinking like,
oh man, I fucking nailed it.
I can't wait.
This is great.
And I think I had barely made it back to Brooklyn
when my agent called me and was like,
hey, I got to talk to you about your audition. It's like, oh God, what? He's like the casting agent called me and was like, Hey, I got to talk to you about your audition.
It's like, Oh, God, what is like the casting director called me and said.
Basically, like, like, like, what was he doing in there?
I was like, what? And he's like, Oh, man, he made these choices that were just so
not on the page and just really weird stuff.
And he said, like, my cadence, I didn't even know.
Wait, in a good way or a bad way?
In a bad way, in a bad way.
Oh, oh, oh.
In a way that my agent was sort of like,
do we need to rethink our working relationship here?
And I was like, oh my God.
And I was racking my brain trying to think of
how did I, where did I go wrong?
And so I kind of chalked it up in the moment,
just like survival mode kicked in and I was like,
okay, I'm not the guy, obviously, that's fine.
I feel good about the exercise, so moving on.
And then I found out like,
it was maybe two or three weeks later that
the tape had, like Bill had seen the tape, like the tape, and it went on to the execs
in in LA.
And they had considered testing me for it.
But I had already but by then I had already committed to go test for something else.
Oh, it was like it was this wonderful validation.
I got to be honest.
It was like it was like, oh, thank God.
I knew that I was doing something kind of right.
All right, great.
And you know what, not a lot of people got the show when we came out, man.
You say you talk about how, you know, well, you how much you liked it.
It wasn't necessarily well received.
We were always on the bubble, always trying to figure out a way to get back on the network
and stuff like that.
Well, not we, but Bill was with our show, man.
So, you know.
That surprises me.
The fact that you got it is great though.
That's my point.
A lot of these shows didn't pop until after.
I mean, the office wasn't, you know,
there's always so many crazy stories about these shows
that are so beloved, including Seinfeld,
that weren't just genuine hits from the beginning.
They really, people really had to work them to keep it on.
The Office was one of those too.
That was a great time for comedy in general though.
That was really like the-
Yeah, our group was dope, yo.
Our group, you know, us, you, the office,
Arrested Development.
Oh man, all of it.
That time.
That group, that was a really good time for comedy.
That was a really good time.
And it was different too.
It was just a different kind of comedy
that was coming out, which is really cool.
I'm sorry to ask you the question that's so obvious
that we get asked all the time,
but since ours is looking like it's actually gonna happen
a little bit, is there any chance
of any sort of revival of Veep?
I mean, is there any world where you all get back together
for some, it could even be for like a movie or something.
We've talked about it.
We have, I think, I feel pretty confident.
I could speak for everyone and say that we would all,
if the opportunity arose in the right way,
everybody would be in, because we love each other.
We're still all very close.
We do a lot of charity stuff together.
In fact, we were doing, we were raising some money for,
around the election, we're doing an event for Wisconsin.
And our man- How'd that wind up? Yeah, how'd that work event for Wisconsin. And our man.
How'd that wind up?
Yeah, how'd that work out for you guys?
How'd that work out for you guys?
We blew it.
I blame it on you guys.
Honestly, so do I.
By the way, I was at a restaurant last night
and I was at Craig's in LA
and all these Secret Service agents walked in.
I was like, what is going on?
Who's here?
Cause I always get really,
I really get kind of geeked out about secret service.
I think they're so cool.
And there was all, it's like the movies
and they're talking into their thing.
And I just, I just think it's so cool.
And I asked the waiter, I'm like, who's here?
And he's like, I don't know if I'm supposed to say,
but I'm not even sure who it is.
Let me go ask.
And I leaned in and it was the second gentleman,
Doug Emhoff, Kamala's husband.
And I was very geeked about it.
Nice. Did he seem upbeat?
Yeah, was he happy?
He definitely seemed like he and his pals
were having a few.
Good. They were-
They deserve it.
They deserve it.
I think he wasn't, he wasn't,
he looked like he was having a good time,
but he also looked like, you know what?
This week, we're gonna drink.
Yeah, we're gonna have, we're gonna.
Yeah.
It's tough.
And then I was trying to be funny
with the Secret Service on the way out.
I'm like, you guys here for me or him?
And, and I, which I thought was a good joke at the time,
but none of them thought it was that funny.
Oh, Secret Service, they're, Secret Service, they're known for their,
their scintillating sense of humor.
I just think they're cool.
I don't know, I'm a Secret Service stan
and they didn't really think I was that funny.
Now, last question during that time,
you guys must have rubbed shoulders
with a lot of politicians.
Yeah, the people come.
Especially being, yeah.
Especially when you guys became a hit,
especially when a lot of people were watching.
You said you were in Baltimore for four years.
That's like right next door to DC.
How much, how much?
Quite a bit, you know.
How much, and are you ever thinking about politics now?
Cause you know.
I'd be lying if I said that it doesn't cross my mind
because you know, look, I don't pretend to be an expert
on politics based on a show that it worked on,
but I did get, you know,
I really got a front row seat or a backstage seat rather.
And that was because, you know,
HBO had so much influence
in that sphere, especially at that time via Richard Plepler, who ran HBO at the time.
He was a big DC mover and shaker and Frank Rich, who was one of our executive producers,
you know, wrote for the Washington Post and was, you know a huge influence in DC. They got us so much access
in the early days that we were, I remember Senator Joe Lieberman, who was a friend,
I think of Richard Plepler, he just opened up his office to us and we just came and we were just like
the entire cast, we were just all over his office grilling everybody. Uh, Tony and Tim and Matt
and I would meet staffers all over Capitol Hill and take them out. Did you get to go
to the White House ever? Uh, we got to go to the Eisenhower, uh, next door. I actually,
no, I'm sorry. We did. No, we went to the White House. That's right. Yeah. They, they,
they, they snuck us in and gave us like a quick sort of like mad dash tour through the
whole thing. That's cool.
It was weird. I gotta be honest, people divulged things to us
that I'm positive they should not have told.
I think they're just so geeked
that they're telling their story,
that they want you to know the real.
I wanna meet the motherfucker that just keeps slipping,
like, yo, aliens exist, bro.
I'm telling you right now. I wanna meet that guy. I wanna meet the motherfucker that just keeps slipping like, yo, aliens exist, bro. I'm telling you right now. I want to meet the guy that's like, yo, if you lobby hard enough,
marijuana could not only be legal state, it could be federal. I want to meet that guy. I want to
meet the guy that's like, yo, look, if you really want to get better healthcare, this is what we
need to do. And it'd be viable. And me be like, I want to meet these people. I want to get better healthcare, this is what we need to do. And it'd be viable and me be like, you know, I want to meet these people.
I want to meet the guidance like infrastructure.
I get it.
California, we need it.
I want to meet these people.
Hey, man, I hope they still exist.
I got to be honest.
It feels like, you know, I make no pretense about it.
You know, I come down on the left side of things for sure. But I think both sides
have... Everything is so fractured and so muddy and so overly complicated. I think we've got a
lot of work to do to clear some shit out so that people like you mentioned, Donald, because they're
out there. They are absolutely
out there and they're willing to do the work. But I think a lot of them, there's this sort of
general sense of apathy of sort of like, oh, it's such a Sisyphean task that no one wants to take
it on. I think everyone's a bit demoralized. Well, not everyone. I think a lot of people
are demoralized now. Everyone's just licking their wounds a bit, and then they'll regroup soon.
And honestly, I hope it comes sooner than later,
because I really do.
Look, I fell into my little crater of depression,
and it's fine.
And maybe I see this because I have kids.
It's like, you can sit and you can wallow.
And that ends up being, in my personal opinion,
kind of childish.
Because what you can do is sort of like, all right,
take your time, lick the wounds,
and realize we gotta get to work.
There's a lot of work to do.
It's only been a couple of weeks.
We can still wallow for a couple more weeks.
Okay, I'll give you a little more time.
Let's talk about Mrs. Maisel.
Donald, I mean, I'm just gonna be clear.
I can't imagine you've ever seen an episode
of Mrs. Maisel because-
I've watched the first season of Maisel.
Really? Yeah.
I never would have guessed that you would like that show.
Are you serious?
Well, just because I know what you like
and there's never a moment where anyone fires a laser
at someone or flies.
It's a lot of good standup comedy.
I was really impressed with the fact
that this young lady could do standup comedy like that.
She was amazing.
I was very impressed with that. that this young lady could do standup comedy like that. She was amazing. I was very impressed with that.
Yeah.
I really loved the show.
I was late to it because I just,
when I first started, to be honest,
it reminded me so much of just so many people
I grew up with.
And I grew up East Coast Jewish family.
And there was a lot of it was just like, okay,
I don't know, this is funny,
but it's just too close to home.
And then I went back and just really, really loved it.
The performances, the way it shot, there was,
I love shows and Scrubs did this too, I have to say,
you know, where it wasn't just like, oh, let's shoot it.
Like the cinematography is a character.
I mean, you guys did such cool shots
and such amazing production design
and every single actor was better than the last.
And so you got to play sort of a,
for those of you who don't know the show,
she's an aspiring comedian and inspired by Joan Rivers,
right?
I think loosely, like the actual story.
Yeah, yeah.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
Yeah, there's a bit of a, and so,
and Joan Rivers always wanted to guest
and then hopefully one day take over the Tonight Show.
And you kind of played the Johnny Carson character.
Tell us about getting that.
Like, how did you, did you read for that part?
How did that come about?
The show runners, they called me,
we set up a call and Amy Sherman, Paladino
and Dan Paladino, who again, I mean, I'm very lucky.
I've gotten to work with some just incredibly genius writers.
They are the best of the best.
And they're just my kind of weird.
I love them.
They called me, and we set up this Zoom,
and they basically gave me their pitch on the character
and sort of describing, just as you said,
that he's sort of very heavily influenced by Johnny Carson
and the early talk show hosts of the 1960s.
And I sort of sat there and I was like,
yeah, all right, cool, cool.
All right, yeah, let me think about it.
And I got off the Zoom and I went and told my wife,
it's like, oh yeah, she's like, how'd it go?
I'm like, yeah, it went well.
I told him I was gonna think about it.
Cause honestly, like I was not,
I was familiar with the show, but I kind of like you, Donald.
I think I'd seen a few episodes of season one, but I just didn't.
I didn't really know the show.
And my wife said, she's like, you told them you're thinking about it?
She's like, you're fucking doing it.
I was like, okay.
Because she was a huge fan of the show.
So she sort of crash course me through
the first three seasons and I was blown away.
I was like, oh my God, this writing is phenomenal.
Writing was amazing.
It was music.
And what I loved about it, it was beautiful.
And then all of a sudden,
not only would the writing be amazing,
but then they do like this most epic oner of a shot.
And you'd be like, oh my God,
they must've spent three days planning that
and shooting that.
And they just, I love the care they took in shooting it
because you could have just said,
here are the pretty costumes, here are the pretty sets,
and here's great writing.
But it was so beyond that.
There was such a dance and a choreography
to the way the actors move throughout the sets
and the way the camera interacted with them.
And there were times when I literally,
I can't think of so many shows
where I would like replay a one-er and be like,
how the hell did they do that?
And that's Amy,
honestly that comes from Amy Sherman-Paladino.
She and Daniel, they did, you know, Gilmore Girls.
I think everyone sort of knew them
for Gilmore Girls before that.
But before that, Amy was a choreographer
for like decades.
So dance and movement and music are so huge for her.
That's why the,
and honestly I had a little trouble
the first couple weeks on set
because, you know, coming from V, but I basically,
we were improvising so much.
We never hit a mark, we never did it the same way twice.
And then showing up to set for Maisel where it's like,
oh no, you don't change a word,
you don't change an audience.
Oh really, that's the rule.
Yeah, it was very sort of,
Aaron Sorkinish in that way, in that like, it's
written this way because it's all been meticulously crafted.
And then you realize once you start to say it, it's like, oh, it can't be said any other
way.
It's perfect the way it is.
But she would have built in, especially when she directed, every cinematic move of the
camera was tied in perfectly to the timing of certain words.
Like she saw the whole show in an extra dimension
that like people just don't really, you know,
most people don't have that ability.
It's really incredible.
It's cool hearing that story because for me,
it really showed there was so much elegance to it.
The scenes just felt like
dances. I loved it. I like that she was a choreographer before because then it really makes
you feel... So she did direct the scene. She did. She was a part of it. You know how it is. The
background is usually ran by the second AD or third AD,
okay, now you, and you know what I mean?
And to think that that much care went into it.
And also with cinematography too, to capture the busyness.
That's what I'm, that was the one thing I would say
about that show that I really liked,
definitely felt busy.
When you were in a nightclub,
it felt like you were in a nightclub.
When you were at the parties, like when she was doing all of the stand up at the parties with her
buddy and they're going back and forth, you felt like you were at a party. The crosses
felt like that. The music that was playing in the background, it's just really well done.
And when it won all of those awards, I was like, fuck, of course it should win all of
the awards. But then you know how it goes. After a while, you're like, Monk, Tony,
I can't watch you anymore, bro.
You win every, you're gonna win it anyway.
Tony, the second Tony, the second they hit record on Tony,
he wins an award.
He's amazing.
He's amazing.
He is amazing.
Fucking G, the guy, man.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, man.
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We watch your Wizette and Dono. Did you meet any talk show hosts or who'd you get to meet to like research?
I've gotten to be friendly with Stephen Colbert over the years because he's a massive.
That's a great one.
Oh yeah.
He loved the show I take it because he's.
He was a huge VEEP fan.
He would come to our like Veeb, like rap parties.
He would just show up and like,
who's going to say no to Steven?
You know, it's like, he was just always around.
He just wanted to be around.
He was great.
And he, he and Matt Walsh, you know,
they, they went way back through, you know, early, you know,
New York comedy days, UCB, and then daily show and all that.
So he was a real welcome guest.
So I actually, I reached out to him
when I accepted the role and said,
I would love to pick your brain.
And we had a Zoom and he basically said,
like, hey man, I'm happy to talk,
but I don't really know what to tell you.
Like, what do you want from me?
Basically, and so like, look, I'm not after,
how do I be a talk show host behind the desk?
It's like, I'll figure that out.
What I'm more interested in is how you change
from all the masks you wear during your job, right?
Like you have your home life,
then you have the showrunner,
because essentially the talk show host is the showrunner.
You have your showrunner persona,
then you have your writer persona,
you've got your businessman persona,
because at that time they were all so,
and they still are, such a part of the fabric of the network.
They're worried about advertising,
they're worried about time, all this stuff.
Then you have your persona that you have behind the desk,
and then you have the rest of your personal life.
And it's sort of like, and you have to shift through
all of those masks every single day.
What's that like?
And I saw Steven, his eyes kind of lit up,
and I realized no one had ever asked him
that question before.
And he said, oh, well, here we go.
And we talked for like four hours.
And at the end of which he's like,
you know who you really need to talk to?
You need to talk to Dick Cavett.
I was like, oh yeah, sure, I'll just,
I'll call up Dick Cavett.
He's like, no, hold on a second.
He calls Dick Cavett.
Wow.
Gets Dick Cavett to join the Zoom.
Oh my God.
So I'm on a three-way Zoom with Stephen Colbert
and Dick Cavett. That's so cool.
And I was like, this was like,
my parents are finally proud of me.
Like I've- Right on, yeah they were.
I really made it.
And what did Dick Cavett say?
Did he add like a new insight?
Oh yeah, I mean, he, Dick, you know,
Dick's a, he's a legend and he's, he's getting, he's
getting on in years. So we spent a lot of time just sort of hearing stories, which was
great because I, you know, I would sort of keep an ear out for like, Oh, that's a fun
little thing. And you know, knowing that I don't really have the juice at Maisel the
way I might've at Veep to sort of put any of this stuff in there. But I sort of, I was
just taking copious notes and then I would get there and be like, you know what? Dick told me these, these funny little stories. I wonder if there's Veep to sort of put any of this stuff in there, but I sort of, I was just taking copious notes. And then I would get there and be like, you know what?
Dick told me these funny little stories. I wonder if there's a way to sort of wedge it
in there. And we found a couple here and there. But really what he impressed upon me was just
the size of the role of a late night talk show host from that era. It was unlike anything
else in television.
And I mean, you can really, you can count on two hands,
the number of late night talk show hosts
that really have mattered, that have really made a difference.
Well, he's definitely one of them.
Oh, yeah, he's way up there.
For sure. Like, it's him, Johnny Carson.
Yeah.
Those are the, from my era, 74, that's the two. Yeah. Real those are from my era, 74.
That's the two. Yeah.
Well, but then there was who was before Johnny wasn't there was obviously there was
you know, the guy, the Beatles went on.
Oh, at Sullivan. At Sullivan.
Yeah. But I wasn't around for that.
I was saying like throughout history, like the big Merv Griffin,
Merv Griffin. Right.
And they were all doing something similar.
But like, but really, I mean, Johnny was the guy.
Johnny was the guy.
You know, Dick is certainly in that conversation because he was.
I'd say he had some.
I mean, his guests and the great was interacting with guests back then
were really cool. And he was the thinking man. Really some, I mean, his guests and the way he was interacting with guests back then
were really cool.
And he was the thinking man's, you know, host.
And he was really, he was kind of-
And of course, and of course Letterman,
we can't forget Letterman.
Early Letterman.
I mean, that was revolutionary though, man.
Like he turned it, I mean, there was those guys,
then Letterman came and I remember,
I remember late night, late, late night.
I remember that.
I remember staying up late to watch him.
You know what I mean?
And then who came on after him back in the day?
Conan.
Conan.
Remember that?
It's amazing.
That used to be the shit.
If you look at like Jack Parr,
I think is also another legend who deserves to be mentioned.
He was doing stuff with comedy that no one was doing
until early Letterman
came back and was sort of like reinventing. You know, people get, you know, Letterman
deserves all that credit, but he was almost sort of picking up where Jack Parr left off.
And then I think Conan was sort of in that same conversation. And you sort of, like to
me, that lineage is so clear, like Jack Parr to David Letterman, to Conan O'Brien. And that's why they all deserve to be in that same conversation. But
the pressure that was put on these guys to deliver, like they were the network, it was them in the
news. You know, they were the real faces of the network. All the other shows were entertaining
and people loved the characters and loved the actors. But when you turned on NBC, you were watching Johnny Carson.
This was Johnny Carson's network.
It was his network.
Yeah.
So I just watched it before we move on.
I'm sorry.
I just watched this movie Saturday night and they talk about that a little bit in the movie.
The reason why Saturday Night Live was on was because Johnny Carson and the network
were in a feud about money.
They needed a show for Saturday night to replace him.
He wasn't playing ball.
They weren't playing ball.
They put a show on with a bunch of nobodies that had literally no, there was
no legitimate story.
So there was no A to B. There was no star, there was no nothing.
And they put this show on to combat, for it to lose really, knowing that they'd signed
Johnny again and it was a hit.
Johnny Carson was running him and Milton Burrell were running that. Absolutely. Johnny, Johnny, at one point people forget, you know, the, the tonight show
at one point, Johnny was so powerful. The tonight show was only on three, four days a week
because he was like, fuck it. I want to go play tennis.
I mean, can you imagine?
Like there's no late night talk show
that could ever get away with that.
But he was like, you know, they called it the tonight show
who really was sort of like, yeah, you know,
the when I feel like it show.
Wow.
Da da da da da da.
Play that little clip here, Daniel.
Da da da da da.
All right, now we have to talk about
your latest gig, Law & Order.
And I saw something funny you said,
because it was the truth for me too.
When I was coming up in New York,
I graduated Northwestern in 97,
and the main show in New York was the OG Law & Order.
And even before that, when I was auditioning before college,
there were like young parts and everyone I knew
was getting their little stint on Law and Order.
Everyone was getting their little,
even if it was like one scene, like,
I told you I didn't do it, man.
Like everyone had their.
Yeah.
Those aren't my drugs.
Those not my drugs.
I got it from Cheryl.
You wanna, dun dun, dun dun. Do you wanna? Dung dung, dung dung.
You know who you should be talking to?
Cheryl, she works down at the candy shop.
Dung dung dung.
Yeah, even if it was that, even if it was just that.
And I couldn't get any of these shits.
And I fucking read for them all.
And I know Donald, you did too.
And I was like, what is wrong with me?
The best I got was New York undercover, bro.
My shit was hot, dude.
Come on, man.
It became a joke like, oh, you're a New York actor.
Have you had your line on Law and Order yet?
And I was like, no.
Fucking no.
And then I saw the notes that you did too.
And now you're the fucking lead.
So. So funny.
That's a good fucking karma coming around.
I tried, man.
I know it was the same.
It was, you know, when I was.
When I was first started kicking it around here, auditioning again,
late 90s, 98, 99.
That's all I don't know.
Yeah, I wanted my turn.
Nothing. I wanted to be on that shit so badly.
My best friend, my best friend, who is not an actor when we were kids, he wasn't
even an actor. He didn't do shit. And this motherfucker wound up on law and order. I
was like, how the fuck did he get on there? Yeah. You remember you'd go audition down
in Chelsea Pierce. Yeah. Yeah. Is that where you still shoot? SVU is over there, but we're
in Brooklyn. At Steiner? Not at Steiner, God, I wish.
Yeah, that's the nice one.
Steiner's the nice one.
You gotta bow down.
Look, dude, straight up, SVU, man.
How long has Mariska Hargitay and Ice T had jobs?
It's amazing.
And you wanna talk about never having to retire?
Oh my God, never having to-
Law and Order, back when we were watching it,
I remember the Jerry Orbach, Jimmy Smith's,
Chris Noth days, I believe.
Because there's so many incarnations.
But I think when I was watching it,
I'm trying to get a little, my little dun dun moment,
it was Chris Noth and Jerry Orbach.
But so it's a pretty great lineage.
What's it like? Is it fun to shoot?
Do you have is Dick Wolf still involved?
Does he come by or he comes by a little bit out?
Dick, I assume Dick is always just sort of circling the earth
and his hyperbaric chamber, you know, 747.
Is he going to be OK for money?
Reed, do you think that he'll be able to get by?
He'll be okay.
He'll be okay.
No.
Is it crazy that he has a monopoly
on all television right now?
It's amazing.
It's like, honestly, getting,
talk about how the sausage is made.
Sort of like getting a peek behind the curtain
to how Dick Wolf Productions works is really,
there's nothing quite like it.
I really had no idea.
A, I love it.
I have such a blast doing this gig.
I mean, yeah, I bet.
I would love to do it.
Oh, yeah. It's awesome.
Call them. We want to do a duo.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
That'd be hilarious. I love that.
I don't know if they're going to want us together
because then it's be like, oh, the scrubs guys.
But will you tell your your showrunner that both Donald and I never got our one line
dun dun moment and we would like to make our dreams come true.
Honestly, not kidding, I'm going to say this first thing tomorrow.
You know what I'd do?
It'd be funny if I was like, if I just have one line,
they're like, it wasn't me.
It was my friend Timmy.
He works down at the cemetery.
He's a gravedigger.
Dun dun.
I didn't do it.
I didn't do it. I didn't do it.
It was fucking James.
James fucking called me up the other day and he was like, you know what I did?
I fucking did it.
Dun dun dun.
You tell him I'm not coming down to Chelsea Piers to audition, but I will take the offer.
Oh.
I know it looks like it must be fun to shoot, right?
It's great, man.
It's great.
Who's your partner?
Who do you do it with?
Macad Brooks plays my partner, and he's the best.
He's just...
You work with Macad.
I love Macad, man.
He's so fun.
Wow, congrats to both of you.
You know, he and I, we work so well together, I think,
because we get what the job is, you know,
and we respect it.
We both kind of like you guys, we came up on this job.
So we sort of feel again,
that sort of custodianship over it.
But we also like-
It's an honor to be a part of that show.
People just love it.
It's fucking unfail and unfallible, infallible.
We're two grown men in our late forties
running around New York with a gun and a badge
and a snarky bad attitude
And you know we get to yeah do all this fun or Baki and shit. It's like it's the best. Yeah, it's really good
I would love to I would love to do that. I would love to just be the car. You guys are the law side
Who's the order side?
Who's the the order side is my buddy Hugh Dancy?
and Odelia Halavi and
Now Tony Goldwyn.
Oh, wow.
And yeah, we love Tony.
Speaking of people who never had a day off
in the last 40 years.
Jesus, Tony's not directing, he's acting.
I know.
Tony, I love Tony so much, but I'm like,
dude, you know, it's okay to take a day off, Tony.
It's okay to not work today.
When he's not working, he's doing political action.
He's an amazing-
He's the real deal, Tony Goldman.
We love Tony.
I love him very much.
He's the nicest guy.
He really is.
And he has abs.
A lot of women have a crush on Tony
and you'll be happy to know that he has abs.
Still.
Yes, because he rows.
He does the rower.
Oh, he's a rower.
Yeah, he's one of those guys with the rower in his house.
Are you a rower? Am I? Reed, has those guys with the rower in his house. Are you a rower?
Yeah, Reed, has Tony got you into rowing?
Not yet, no.
No.
I was gonna say, that's always cool, man.
It's like, you get to go into work, you get to act,
and then at the end of the day,
you get to run around with guns too.
So you get to do all of the things that you wanted to do.
Like, I'm like, I was just thinking about that.
I was like, yeah, I was like,
you know what would be a lot of fun actually?
Doing a procedural.
That would actually be a lot of fun if I'm a cop.
Because I'll come in, I'll do the work.
I got, you know, we'll do the work, let's do the work.
Now let's go fucking run around with cars.
Let's do stunt shit.
Let's drive around and shoot guns in Central Park.
I think it'd be funny if you and I did a law and order spoof.
That's what we wanna do too.
McCott and I, absolutely.
It's so ripe for it.
I think it'd be genius. I know, Darryl.
I feel like we'd have more fun.
We'd be able to have our cake and eat it too,
where we could still do with the shit,
but then, but it was a spoof.
It was like a naked gun spoof of law and order.
We need to get Dick Wolf on board for this. Dick Wolf, are you ready to spoof your work? I heard Dick Wolf is a spoof. It was like a naked gun spoof of Law and Order. We need to get Dick Wolf on board for this.
Dick Wolf, are you ready to spoof your work?
I heard Dick Wolf is a huge fan.
Dick Wolf listens to the podcast.
Of fake doctors, real friends.
I mean, I think I know you have your.
I think this is perfect for like a sort of like
Law and Order multiverse too, you know?
It's sort of like, like Zach, if you're playing my character
and Donald, if you're playing McAught's character,
it's like somehow we just have to go down the wrong alley
in New York and we come out the other side
into another dimension and it's you guys.
But it's the comedy.
Except when we do ours, every time you,
when we do our spoof, every time you hear the,
doong, doong, it's gonna reveal
that I'm playing it on a synthesizer.
You got a little mini synthesizer
that you walk around with you everywhere.
Yeah, remember that little Casio one
that where you could like, yeah, I have that.
And you're like, why do you always do that?
I'm like, well, it's just how I like to end scenes.
Punctuation.
What is the scene?
We're fucking standing here in front of an investigation.
Dun dun.
All right, man.
Well, thank you for coming on.
You're so talented and I'm so grateful for your time. And everybody check out Law and Order.
When do you guys come on? When do you are?
When is it on?
We're Thursdays, 8 p.m.
And we'll be on hopefully for the next thousand years.
Yeah, you will be.
So you shoot in New York, but your family's in L.A.?
My family's in L.A.
It's tough because your kids are in school.
Can you come back for weekends and stuff?
How do you do it?
Yeah, they're actually, they're very,
they're wonderful about it.
It's all been very humane.
Like they carve out nice big, you know,
four or five, six day weekends for me when they can.
I get to come back a lot.
My family comes here.
You know, I'm from upstate.
I've lived in New York since I was a teenager.
So this is a bit of a homecoming.
And, you know, getting to this show, I've gotten to know York since I was a teenager, so this is a bit of a homecoming. And, you know, getting to this show,
I've gotten to know New York City on a level
that I never thought was possible
because of the places that we get to shoot on this show.
It's like, we are everywhere.
And so it really has gotten me to fall in love
with New York again, but the travel is a bit of a grind.
But I'd want to say getting through that city.
No, I think he's talking about the LA New York commute,
right?
All of it.
No, I'm talking about it.
All of it.
You ever filmed in New York?
Have you filmed in New York in the last five years?
Yeah, you know I filmed in New York, direct case.
Right, so you know,
do you want me to throw something?
Although for a good person, we couldn't shoot,
we had to shoot Jersey City for New York
because of the tax rebate.
We weren't allowed to shoot in New York.
It's the hardest place to get around, Manhattan.
It's tough.
It's so hard to get around.
Yeah, it's tricky.
And then when people see the film shoot,
they're so stoked.
So then it becomes really kind of tricky to shoot
because people gather.
Yeah, we get a lot of crowds.
Everyone, all the locals are so over film crews.
So they're like, get the fuck off my street, assholes.
Why do they all sound like Edith Bunker?
If I see Sarah Jessica Parker strutting up my street
one more time, I'm going to get a blow dot gun.
All right, Reed, you're the best, man.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you so much.
Reed Scott, everybody.
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podcasts. Now I want to be on Law and Order.
I'm jealous.
Well, you know what?
I was thinking about that earlier today.
When I say that, my wife was like, were you thinking about it or were you thinking about
it earlier just now?
I was thinking about it earlier today and that would be kind of an ideal job right
now. Like if scrubs doesn't do this reboot,
it would be nice to be on something like law and order or law and order SVU or
something, you know,
something of that nature where you get to run around and play fire, man,
or you get to run around and play, you know, FBI.
That's fun.
For me, I just feel like in my gut,
I would get exhausted if there wasn't humor.
Like, I just feel like, and don't get me wrong,
I would totally do a drama of all types,
except for if I'm gonna do 22 episodes of a show.
I wanna be funny too, no doubt.
I just don't know if I'm gonna make it through the day
if we're not laughing.
Like to me, what I love is like-
But I think there's room for that in those things.
There's no comedy in law and order.
They just have like one snarky remark like,
guess he didn't finish his bagel, dun dun. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
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Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! He's so talented and he keeps working. And we always admire these people that just keep on working and working and working. He's a handsome dude, man.
That's also what it boils down to.
Oh, you're saying it's just because he's handsome.
No, he's a very talented actor.
He's a talented man.
And he's very, very, very, very funny.
But he also has something called handsome on his side.
And in this town, from what I understand,
handsome is a big deal.
Handsome helps.
He plays such a good dick though.
Oh my God, was he such a, like the worst jerk on Veep.
Worse than Bradley Cooper in Wedding Crashers?
I don't really remember, probably not.
Bradley Cooper is the worst dick that I've ever seen
in my life in Wedding Crashers.
Dude. But you know what, Reed?
You're a pretty good dick too.
Reed, you're a great dick.
You're such a good dick, Reed.
You're such a nice dick.
You haven't gone for a while.
By the way, I got, I was feeling sort of lonesome
and depressed the other day, I have to admit.
And what? No. I was, I was feeling sort of lonesome and depressed the other day, I have to admit. And what?
No.
I was, I was feeling down the dumps.
I was really feeling my feelings.
And I remembered Joelle saying that when she wants
to find something to do, she plays Sims 4.
So I downloaded Sims 4.
Oh.
And I started playing Sims 4.
It's been so many years and I have a ranch
and I'm setting it up and I'm texting Joelle questions.
I'm like, how do I get a horse?
I'm on this ranch alone.
I'd like to need a horse.
And then I get the horse, Joelle helps me out.
And I'm like, I want to get some baby goats, Joelle.
Where are the baby goats?
And she's talking me through this.
And then I'm just sitting there
on this fucking giant empty range.
And I got baby goats and I got a horse and then I see my Sim and he starts to
get like depressed and lonesome and I'm like, now my fucking Sim is depressed
and lonesome.
I'm sitting here trying to cheer the Sim up and we're both sitting here within our
feelings.
Yeah.
Why didn't you get a hot tub?
Very good question.
I couldn't find the hot tub.
I'm not sure if the ranch had hot tub options
or if I couldn't afford it.
And also there weren't any women around.
I think I shouldn't be on a ranch
because my guy really wanted to flirt.
And only these old prospector dudes were coming by
like, welcome to the neighborhood.
And I was gonna invite them to my hot tub.
And then I had to-
Well, you don't have a hot tub.
Oh well, I'll find out how to get a hot tub.
I gotta text Joelle, she knows how to use Sims 4.
But then my baby goats, I didn't know they needed milking.
I have to milk them.
And I was so busy like moving shit around on the ranch.
I didn't have time to milk my baby goats.
Can I ask you a question?
Go ahead.
Is your ranch still alive?
Yeah, but I'm thinking I shouldn't be on the ranch.
I'm going to talk to Joel about it.
I think that my character needs some more social interactions,
and I should be like in a city or a town where I can like talk to people.
What are you going to do, sell the ranch?
I don't know if I, I think you just start a new game because I just started.
Well, you know, you don't have to be lonely. There is farmers only.
You think I can go on Sims farmers only?
I think that's a possibility.
There's a bar in town that my character hasn't gone to. Maybe I should go in there and try to find a girl.
Go to the fucking bar. You'll find a girl at the bar.
All right, but I have so much to do on the farm and I'm supposed to milk these goats.
And I wanted to adopt a horse,
but while I was trying to take care of this adopted horse,
my character started looking sad and I'm like,
oh shit, why is he so sad?
And I clicked on it.
It's because the baby goats were fucking ramming his shins
because I hadn't trained them.
You're supposed to train the goats?
You're supposed to, what do you call it?
Pet them and domesticate them or whatever you call it.
Got it.
So there's a lot to do.
And the whole time I'm thinking, this isn't cheering me up.
This is like making me more depressed.
I'm sorry, Zach.
It's all right.
You know what you should play?
Play fucking Red Dead Redemption 2.
That'll cheer you up real quick.
Well for that-
Go get some bounties.
Isn't that about a guy alone?
Well no.
Yes.
Yeah, he is alone, but guess what he finds on his lonesome trips?
What?
Jewels.
Is he allowed to pick up women and bring them on adventures?
You could beat the crap out of anybody in the game.
Oh, but you don't meet cowgirls? You do. No, you do. Oh, but you don't like meet, you don't meet cowgirls?
You do.
No, you'd meet people, but you don't meet them
and have relationships.
Is it like Leisure Suit Larry and then you can-
No, it's not Leisure Suit Larry.
That's what you should play.
It exists still.
No, it doesn't.
I bet you could find it if you go to your Apple,
your App Store.
There's not like a new incarnation of Leisure Suit.
Type it in, watch what happens, dude.
There's not a new one, but I'm sure you know
what kind of old one you could play. App Store, App Store. Why are you yelling watch what happens, dude. There's not a new one. No, there's not an old one.
App Store, App Store.
Why are you yelling App Store?
Because I want you to do it right now, Leisure Suit Larry.
No, I don't want to.
I'm gonna do it, just cause you did this.
I want you to know this is your fault.
But I don't wanna go play a game
about a guy in a Leisure Suit.
I just wanna get, I wanna play The Sims, I'm liking it,
but I think I should be in a town where I can socialize.
Look at the ranch.
It's just, it's just me and this.
I got a, I got an adopted pony.
That's the skittish.
I got two baby goats that need to be milked.
Dude, there's leisure suit, Larry.
Wet dreams don't dry.
Come on, baby.
That's the title.
Wet dreams don't die. No, wet dreams don't die.
No, wet dreams don't dry.
What dreams don't dry?
What year did it come out?
No, wet dreams don't dry.
Wet dreams don't dry.
What year did it come out?
I don't know.
Let me hold up.
I want to see how old it is.
Daniel's saying it was not in the recent game.
I'm sure it's already released,
that they released for Apple.
I don't think in your Latin 2024
you can make a Leisure Suit Lowry game. Well, your Latin 2024, you can make a leisure shoot, Larry game.
Why? Well, shit. Oh, you can.
It's just games.
Are there games out there, Daniel, that are sexual?
Oh, yes. 2019.
Oh, yes. Oh, it's 2019.
All right. So it's five years old.
There's a whole there's like what, Dan?
Like what's a game where you're like where you're like
where there's a lot of intercourse?
I mean, there are these like simulation type games where you're like literally
like fucking stuff. Oh, they're on. They're out there.
Oh, yeah, they're out there. They're just like, you know, stuff.
You can like, you know, like, you know, like a melon, like a cantaloupe.
It doesn't come. Is there is there like a weird kind of controller
like shaped like a woman's body that? No, no, no, no, no. It's just it's probably just you can choose different things to fuck.
I yes. OK, look, I don't have a lot of experience with these games personally.
I just know that they're there. You can be weird to ask you to look up said.
Look, can you put those in the chat? I'm going to do it on my other computer.
I'll say that. Just put those on the chat.
Can you put those in the chat? I'm gonna do it on my other computer, I'll say that.
Just put those on the chat.
Did I ever tell you the story about how I was playing a game
on my like year, like 1995 computer in my college dorm,
my roommate walked in while I was having sex
with the game?
With leadership Larry?
No, it was this game where the idea,
sorry audience if I told this story, but-
Yeah, I've never heard of this.
The idea was like you moved your mouse
and you were trying to have the woman have an orgasm.
And you know, the, what do you call it?
The gauge would go into yellow.
And then when she was close, she was gonna,
and I'm just sitting there with your mouse
and I'm just doing my best.
And I had a born again Christian roommate
and he just swung open the door
with his born again Christian girlfriend.
He was coming to like show her like,
and this is my dorm room.
And I was out of a movie.
Like I couldn't turn it off.
I couldn't find the bar.
I couldn't escape.
And the girls on the computer like,
ah, ah, ah.
I've got the mouse.
I've got the mouse going as fast as I can.
And I'm just really trying to get this fucking thing off.
And he took one look and he was so embarrassed.
He's like, we'll come back later.
And he's like slammed the door and it was so embarrassing.
Did you apologize or you guys never spoke of it?
I think it was so embarrassing that I never was like,
hey, sorry, I was playing that sex game
when you brought your gal by.
So it goes, so it goes.
But it was fun. The game was fun.
Daniel, is there anything you want to share about twitching?
What?
He doesn't twitch anymore.
What do you mean?
What, was I doing anything weird sexually on Twitch ever?
I was not.
Weirdest thing I ever did was mukbang and that was weird.
That sounds, just mukbang alone.
My kids are, my kids know all of it.
I mean, you know, when you're-
Your kids watch mukbang?
No, but when you're into, when you're,
the kids these days know more about
what is considered pleasurable for the ears and,
you know what I mean?
Mukbanging is an ear thing.
It's an ASMR thing.
I didn't know what that shit was.
Yeah, for some people who are into it,
some people find it gross.
Right, and so I was wondering why I kept watching
all of these recipe videos and stuff like that.
And my kid looked at me and said,
dad, it's ASMR.
You're freaking intrigued by the brrrr.
How do you like the sound of it?
And shh, this is my 11 year old kid telling me this.
And I was like, oh, got it.
What are you gonna do the rest of your day?
Are you gonna go back to building Tatooine?
It's not Tatooine, it's a planet
that is very much like Tatooine.
Are you gonna go back to building the planet
that's very much like Tatooine? it is not tattooing. Are you gonna go back to building the planet that's very much like tattooing?
Yeah, I got about an hour,
and then I'm gonna go pick up the kids.
I'm gonna take my kid to his workout,
and then bring them home, feed them.
We just finished Stranger Things.
Listen, parents, if you are a father of an 11-year-old boy
and a nine year old girl,
I do not recommend stranger things for them.
Oh, because they're all scared.
My daughter was not, but my son slept.
My 11 year old, he's going to be so embarrassed by this,
but he slept in the same bed as us last night.
Cause of monsters?
That's sweet.
Cause he was so afraid.
That was his explanation.
I was like, boy, go back in your bed.
Get back in your bed. Get back in your bed.
I'm so scared, dad.
All right, well, good parenting.
Good parenting, good job.
Good job, bro.
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