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Are you rolling on the quick time, Donald?
No, I record on the Zoom still, Brody McGoody.
You got the Zoom.
Oh, you go old school since the beginning.
You know, since we started this bad boy, I try to keep it old school for all of the heads out there.
You know what I'm saying? For all you old school heads out there, I keep it old school.
I don't subscribe to the quick time. I don't do that. I stick with the zoom.
I have to travel with the zoom.
Yeah.
You know, I do. I have upgraded to the Sony camera, but you know.
Looks good.
Anyway, the point is-
You wanna talk about some stuff?
I don't wanna talk about that shit. I wanna talk about how much I miss you, how long it's
been since we've gathered. It's the new year.
It's been a while.
I don't know when it's gonna air, but it's January 7th listeners.
We haven't been together in a very long time.
It's been a minute.
I'm still sober.
I know, let's talk about this.
Donald and I are doing Dry January.
I started early.
I think I started the 27th.
I started the 30th. So I started the 30th.
Okay.
So, and you're also off weed.
Still.
Dude, I'm so proud of you.
How long have you had weed?
Over a month now.
Thunderous applause, Danil.
Good for you, thunderous applause indeed.
And audience, I just want to clarify.
I'm not, to each their own, you love weed, you love weed,
but my friend Donald was smoking
a fuck ton of weed.
And I think doctors would agree that the amount of weed he was smoking was not good for him.
I don't know if they'd say that, but the Surgeon General-
You're not supposed to smoke weed morning to night, bro.
I don't know all of that.
That's not what freaked me out about the Surgeon General.
What the Surgeon General said about's not what freaked me out about the Surgeon General. What the Surgeon General said about alcohol
is what freaked me out.
And I was like, shh.
Yeah, but yet you also stopped weed.
So what was your impetus?
I did.
What was your catalyst for that?
I was just doing it too much
and I wasn't very present with my wife
and I wasn't present with my children.
Amen.
And I thought it was time.
But I'll tell you, man, stopping the weed threw me down
this, what's the word I'm looking for?
Paranoia spiral.
Yeah, I'll bet.
And I went to the doctor and I freaking got every blood test
I could possibly get.
All these things you got in your head
about your health after you got off.
Oh, absolutely, because I started coughing,
all of these things.
I went to the doctor and took that blood test.
Or you can only take it when you're 50.
I forget the name of it,
but it tests for over 50 types of cancer.
Yeah, I had that too.
Yeah, and I did it and I'm cancer free.
I'm here to report and say, I still have to get my-
You're saying it like you beat cancer.
No, I mean, but no, man, like the way I felt after the weed
was out of my, was trying to leave my system,
you know, it doesn't wanna leave, it wants to stay.
And how long were you, yeah, well, dude, you were in serious withdrawal. I mean,
you were a morning to night smoker. How long did you feel withdrawal symptoms?
I still feel it now. It's, you know, it's a month and a half in and, you know, the cravings have
started back up. You know, I work out at a gym and sometimes these cats come in, it's
a private gym and sometimes these cats come in smelling like loud and that shit is like,
oh, you smell so good.
But I know I don't want to do that shit anymore.
You know what I mean?
And then, you know, since my birthday, all of this alcohol has been in the house and
it's, you know, walking by it and looking at it is a bit torturous, but I'm not gonna throw it out
cause it's so much money and I paid for it.
And I don't necessarily intend to ever drink again.
Like I don't wanna drink again,
especially after what the Surgeon General said.
But you know, I have a fear of not death,
but just not being here for my children.
And so because of that,
I am-
Well, I'm really happy for you.
I really am happy for you.
Cause I know you and I love you.
And I know that smoking weed
is something you've been reliant on for a long time.
And I know how you're not the only morning to evening smoker.
I know how hard it is for people to kick it.
Yeah.
So I applaud you for doing it.
And then, you know, the logical thing would be like,
all right, I'll just drink at night instead.
And then you're at least auditioning, giving that up too.
So that's a lot.
I'm not auditioning.
I just don't want to drink anymore, bro.
Like after hearing about cancer and, you know,
even the foods we eat and stuff like that,
like everything is, you know, I'm a 50 year old man.
And I hate to say-
You want longevity.
Yeah, man.
Like I have most of my year, most of the,
you know, I don't think I'll live another 50 years.
You know, it'd be great if I did,
but the chances of doing that are slim.
You know, I lost my aunt recently.
Sorry, yeah.
I loved very much.
And she was, I believe 85, and my dad made it to 84,
and I just, he was, she was his sister.
And I couldn't help but think like, wow.
So I've got like, my family's trending towards the mid 80s.
Yeah. Which means I've got like, my family's trending towards the mid 80s,
which means I've got 35-ish left.
I mean, I hope I get more, but 35-ish years left.
It's just a crazy thing to think about.
Like when you get to be our age, 50,
I'm gonna turn 50 in April,
you start thinking about like, well, how many do I got left?
And then my aunt passed away, she had a long full life
and was an amazing person.
But you can't help but think like, oh God,
looks like my family's making it to mid eighties.
Yeah, man.
And nobody gets out of this alive.
That's the truth.
You know what I mean?
What, life?
Yeah.
That's a good quote.
Nobody makes it out.
Put it on a shirt.
Life, no one gets out alive.
Yeah, real talk.
But yeah, I'm trying Dry January.
I was in New York having so much fun with the Lawrence's
and with Andrew Watt and with Josh Raden.
And we had a blast.
I saw a bunch of great shows.
I highly recommend Maybe Happy Ending with Darren Christ,
to people.
That show was fantastic.
Anyway, but yeah, I came back and I think I just get,
every year I find myself surprised by it,
but I think I get a little, sorry,
we're not really doing a comedy podcast yet, we will,
but I get a little bit of seasonal depression
around the end of December when it's like dark,
where I live, it's like dark at 415.
And I don't know, I just get down on the dumps.
And so I just, I always know when I get to that place,
I know all the things I can throw at it.
You know, I know how to throw the kitchen sink
at that melancholia.
And for me, it's, I have to stop drinking.
I have to start working out more.
I have to start eating right.
And if I do all these things, if I do and I meditate,
I adopted a dog, which is,
I have officially foster failed
and adopting this wonderful dog,
which is a huge source of serotonin.
So I know if I throw the, you know, I saw on a cold punch,
all these things that helped me,
I little by little can get out of it.
But I started feeling those feelings, you know,
in December. It's really easy to fall into that.
It's so easy to fall into that, especially at our age,
cause you're no longer feeling invincible.
You know, when we were kids, when I was a kid,
there's nothing you could tell.
I was right too. I was pretty invincible as a youth.
You know what I mean?
Like the shit I did to my body and was able to wake up the next morning and be like, yo, you know what I mean? Like the shit I did to my body and was able to wake up the next morning and be like,
yo, you know what I mean?
Like, but as time goes on, you realize that's,
them days are behind you.
Now it's about, you know, it's nature, not nurture,
but you know, I'm gonna try and nurture this shit
as much as I can.
No, you are nurturing yourself if you start taking actions
that are like, all right,
what's gonna help me live the longest?
How do I, there's so many podcasts and books out there
about like, what should you be doing
if you really do wanna maximize your time,
what should you be doing?
But it could all end in the next couple of minutes,
you know what I mean?
That's how life is, bro.
The freaking earth could get hit by a of minutes. You know what I mean? That's how life is, bro. It could, the freaking earth could get hit by a rock
or a, you know what I mean?
Or you just have one of those mysterious things
like what happened to John Ritter?
Like you just fucking don't know.
You just have like all of a sudden, bam,
you didn't know you had that gone.
Anyway, we should probably just be more chipper
for the people, because it is the new year, right, Daniel?
If Daniel's here, Joelle is having a, it's a very windy day in LA and some of the power
lines are down and I think Joelle has a power line issue, right, Daniel?
Correct.
We didn't talk about Jersey.
Like Jersey had UFOs and shit.
We have a lot to talk about.
We can talk about that with Johnny because Johnny's a Jersey boy.
He'll be interested in that subject.
Daniel, how are you? How was your break?
Your beer is very full.
It's very, very full.
You know, me and the wife spent the time we had off moving.
We moved from Queens to Brooklyn.
So now we're Brooklynites and we like the area very much.
We're very happy here.
You look like a Brooklynite. Thank you.
Yeah, but we're very happy here. We really like the
area. And it's been it's been very kind to us as fan family
here. It's been nice. But I will say, you know, I took the last
three weeks of the year off intending to relax. But then it
was spent entirely packing boxes, unpacking boxes, you
know, setting up, you know, facilities and whatnot. So we
had a few a little bit of time off,
but not maybe as much as I would have liked,
but happy to be here.
Well, congrats on your new place.
Thank you very much.
Don, I know where to begin.
We have so many topics to talk about.
We have to talk about how you've been gatekeeping Dochi.
Nobody's been gatekeeping Dochi from you.
I just learned the expression gatekeeping and I love it.
I have a lot, I wanna overuse it.
Well, if you think I'm gatekeeping Dochi,
I don't want you to think I'm gatekeeping LeAngelo Ball.
Jello Ball's new song is fire.
Actually.
Oh my gosh, it is fire.
LeVar Ball, three for three.
Three for three, my guy.
You're switching subjects.
I introduced a topic. Daniel, did you know about Do switching subjects. I introduced the top check. No doubt.
Daniel, did you know about Dochi?
I am familiar with Dochi. Dochi with two I's.
Yeah, I mean, you know.
Audience, if you're like me and you're not hip,
if you're out of the loop, you need to check out this young lady.
She is fantastic. D-O-E-C-H-I-I?
Mm-hmm.
That is correct.
I know I'm the last person to say this, but she reminds me of Lauryn Hill, no?
In that she can rap, she can sing, she's writing it all, she's beautiful, she's fucking so
talented.
She's extremely talented.
Her video that I sent you?
What is that video I sent you?
She told her record label, I'm gonna go away and write a record.
And they were like, well, what do you have?
She's like, on this date, I'm gonna drop a record.
And they were like, well, what do you have?
She was like, I have nothing, but I'm gonna go do it.
And she went away and did it, came back with it.
But I mean, I'm just blown away.
I've been watching,
I went down a rabbit hole watching her little,
her tiny desk thing and her videos.
Tiny desk was pretty good, man.
Dude, her tiny desk was fire, dude.
And her music video, do you remember the name of the song that I sent you, Donald, with
like a sitcom set?
Denial is a River.
Yeah, Denial is a River.
That's a bunch of artists on that though.
It's still like her music video or like that's the idea.
It was proportional for her album. Audience, go watch this music video for Denial is a River. It is so innovative.
Kudos to the directors who went, I don't know who, I assume it's their idea or it's her idea or both.
I don't know. But I thought it was so innovative and cool. I was just smiling through the whole
thing being like, wow, what a talent, what an exciting new talent.
Very impressive.
She's not very, she's not new either.
She's been around for a bit.
But isn't she young?
How old is she?
Early 20s?
I don't know that.
Daniel, can you look at that?
I'll look it up. I'm curious.
It reminded me of Donald Glover,
like when he came out with, This is America.
But he had been around, that's the same thing
Donald Glover had.
I stay woke.
Niggas creeping.
Dogey's 26.
26.
Well, young and very talented and excited.
All right.
That's one topic.
Do you want to talk?
LeAngelo Ball has dropped fire.
And here it is for your listening pleasure.
I don't know who LeAngelo Ball is. I swear I've been at corner roll, a bitch hold on tight
cause I'm tweakin' this bitch, I let this shit go
and I heard that she wanna show, I mean who she be?
I'm kinda fuckin' with it, show me some moat
bitch, you tell me
Dude!
Okay, that's LeAngelo Ball, I'm not hip to him yet.
Oh my god, okay, so he is a basketball player
who, uh, his father, LeVar Ball, was saying how his boys
are the next stars in the NBA.
And one of them is the top, is the number one all-star vote getter for guards this year.
The other one just made a comeback to the NBA after being out for over a year. And now LeAngelo, who didn't
make the NBA, who made the NBA but kind of fell off in the NBA, made a record that's so fire. You
play that shit in the gym and everybody's freaking dancing. Wow. So he came out of nowhere with a
album and he's a basketball player.
And he's a basketball player, but the record is fire.
I slept, LeVar, three for three, boy.
Three for three!
What does three for three mean?
He predicted that they would all be stars.
And he was right, three for three.
Okay.
And he predicted it when they were babies too,
like when they were, you know, one was-
You know what he did, Donald, he manifested that shit.
He did manifest, but he did it in such like the most,
like craziest way.
He was going on television saying,
my boy's gonna be this, and my boy's gonna be that.
And people were like, slow your roll, bro.
You don't know what's gonna happen.
And he was like, no, they gonna be better than such and such
and better than, and so far, three for three on his boys.
If you're gonna bet on anybody, I'm gonna bet on my kids,
but if you're gonna bet on anybody,
that's the right bet, I guess.
Well, make sure your kids are also learning to rap
in addition to learning to be pro athletes.
It's part of the, it is a part of the culture now.
Did you watch, I know you didn't watch the episode,
but I was on the show Bookie, episode four.
Playing rocko.
Yeah, rocko, not inspired by your son,
but audience, check out the show Bookie.
It's really funny show.
I'm a fan of the show and so I told Chuck Lorre that,
and then he wrote me this part, and it's really funny.
Donald, I know you didn't watch the episode,
but you watched the clip I sent you.
Of course.
Did you laugh?
I did.
How was I?
That was fun, right?
That's pretty impressive, dude.
First of all, it's impressive that Chuck Lorre That was fun, right? That's pretty impressive, dude.
First of all, it's impressive that Chuck Lorre jumped from multi-cam to single-cam.
That show is very funny.
I don't follow football, I don't follow betting, but I genuinely like the show.
And you know, it's Sebastian Montescalco.
I find him hilarious.
Daniel, you ever watch that show?
I haven't yet, but I see it's on Mac,
so I'll definitely give it a look.
All right, well, check it out.
You can start with season two, episode four,
and that will make you love me.
I'll start with that one.
Yeah.
Is Johnny here yet?
No, he is not.
All right, good.
I wanna talk about The Office
because audience, I have to admit something to you.
I had seen episodes of The Office in my life,
but I've never done a full watch of the series in a row.
And I told you I was having some melancholia,
and I thought, you know what?
Everyone always says this is one of the funniest shows
of all time.
I'm gonna, this will pair nicely
with my seasonal depression.
And I cannot tell you how fucking funny that show is.
I know I'm late to the party, everybody.
Again, I had seen episodes,
but I had never done a full watch.
And now I'm in season six,
and it is one of the funniest shows of all time.
Did you laugh when they do the emperor
talking to Anakin shit?
Don't do it, Michael.
And he has the hood over his head.
I haven't gotten to that yet.
That must be after- must be a Halloween episode.
Well, I must be after where I am
because I'm in season six.
I'm not all the way to finish yet.
I haven't seen that.
I think it might be earlier than that.
But anyway, that shit is funny.
I don't want it to be over.
Did you see the episode where Dwight comes in
dressed as Jim?
Yes.
Did you watch the end the uh the end credits when the
credits are rolling and he's doing Jim? Yeah. And he looks that shit had me
rolling too. Did you watch the one where Oscar is thrown out of the closet? It's
called gay witch hunt that episode. And it's one of the funniest fucking
episodes of television I've ever seen. That episode is one of the funniest episodes of television I've ever seen.
I can't believe, by the way, when I'm done, I'm going to go watch these gag reels because
I cannot believe that these actors are managed to not laugh. I'm sure they laugh all the time,
but they manage to, when Steve Carell is doing his thing, and these people all have their straight faces,
I just don't know if I could do it.
I would be biting, I mean, obviously he's tapping with you.
He's tapping on scrubs.
When it was bad, I would bite the inside of my cheek.
But I'm watching Steve Carell and I'm going,
I would not be able to not be laughing through this.
He's so, I mean, obviously the whole cast,
everybody's brilliant.
Everybody's brilliant.
Everyone has their moment to shine.
Everything Creed says, Creed is like their-
Creed is a freaking assassin.
But Creed is like their fucking Rob Martio the time.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he's got one line in an episode,
and without fail I laugh every time.
Yeah, yeah.
I just watched an episode called Murder,
where they're playing a murder mystery game,
and Creed gets to work late.
And when he arrives at work,
he says to Michael, sorry I'm late.
And Michael in character is playing the murder game
when he goes, there has been a murder and we suspect you.
And Creed goes, okay, let me just put my things down
and I'll be back.
And then you see him run to his car and skin out.
I feel like we should do a rewatch of The Office.
That's, you know what, we said that early on.
I know, but now I kind of want to do it.
I wish I had done that.
We should try it, listen, we could audition it
and do like three episodes and see if we enjoy it.
Absolutely, I'm down.
Because I've been, audience, I've been sending Donald clips.
Some of them are like Chris shit,
I can't believe they did on television
and these episodes are still up on television.
But I will send Donald like video clips
of what I've been watching.
And I'm like just laughing like, oh my God.
I know what some of you were listening going like,
yeah bro, we know the office is funny.
But I feel like those of you out there who are listening
because you love scrubs and obviously Donald and I
can't have that kind of relationship with the show
because we're in it, but I feel that with watching
The Office now where I'm like,
I'm so invested in these people.
I love this family.
They're so bizarre, but I'm sad to know I'm on season six
and it's gonna have an end.
And I know there's a reboot happening.
I know there's a reboot happening,
but it doesn't have the cast.
I wish the cast was, I wish they were doing it.
I think it goes to eight, but Carell's not on seven and eight
and I'm not gonna be a hater.
I'm gonna be open to seven and eight,
but I can't imagine the show without Carell
because to me, it's all about him.
He's hilarious.
He's a genius.
When the dude asks him,
when the HR company comes in
and they're asking him all of these questions
and they're trying to catch him out there
and he's doing his best not to fall off,
and they're like,
Michael, what are the mountains?
And he's holding it in and he goes,
they rest upon me ladies chest.
Oh my God.
The fact that when we were talking to Brian Baumgartner,
I, you know, again, I had seen maybe a dozen episodes,
but I now I wish I could have him back.
I have so many more questions now that I've fucking binged the whole thing.
But man, that guy is so funny.
And every single character actor on that show
has a moment to shine.
And I'm so invested in Jim and Pam.
I literally, when Jim proposed, I literally clutched my pearls.
I was so caught off guard.
I was like, that's how invested I was
in the show. I was like, and then when they went to, when they got married and I, when
they did the little thing with the Niagara falls, I had like tears in my eyes. I was
so invested anyway.
How about Amy Adams early on, Amy Adams on the show.
Amy Adams. There's so many funny, so many funny, uh, guest stars and it's just a brilliant
show. I think I'm now I'm going to to go back and you know, it's funny.
I never really watched the other shows that people that love Scrubs would say are in the
spirit of Scrubs, like community.
Again, I've seen episodes, never the whole thing.
Parks and Rec, I've seen episodes, never the whole thing.
But now I'm kind of inspired to just start watching these shows because we've always heard you and I, like people that love Scrubs often like these shows.
And I just never got around to like sitting
and binging them and now I am.
That's the question though.
The reason why these shows were so great though also,
it's not just the actors on the show,
the writing was so cutting edge.
Scrubs writing was so cutting edge, you know, Scrubs writing was so cutting edge.
And this day and time, you know,
you don't really see this type of writing anymore.
You don't see this edgy, edgy, you know.
Well, you can't really be as edgy as, as, as Scrubs was
and as the office was any, any more, obviously on,
I don't know.
What are you, what are you saying, Gale?
Are you saying you can't?
I don't think you can you saying what are you saying now are you saying you can I don't think you can be what are you saying I think I think
it's um it feels like it's like a different kind of edge now you know I
look at a lot of like animated shows these days like you know the kind of
edge that like Rick and Morty does is like it is its own kind of edgy in a very
I don't know edgy way I think there think there were a race. There were a race.
There were racy jokes on the office.
Larry Wilmore was one of the head writers.
I assume that he was writing a lot of them.
They're hilarious.
I mean, Donald, you agree they're hilarious,
but now some of them you go,
oh, you couldn't, you definitely couldn't put that
on a TV show, even if you're Larry Wilmore,
you can't put that on a TV show now.
I think the times change and people change with them.
I do miss some of the edginess and I know I could get in trouble for saying that.
No, you're not going to get in trouble for saying you miss some edgy jokes.
I mean, fucking Delirious is your favorite comedy special of all time.
It is one of my favorites, that and Raw.
That one and Raw.
And Raw has some stuff where, you know,
you can't tell that joke anymore.
No, not even Eddie could tell those jokes anymore.
Eddie would be like, no, I ain't saying that shit.
You crazy.
We want to announce we're gonna have the director
of the year, one of the directors of the year,
John Chu and the editor of my friend,
Myron Kirstein of Wicked
on the show.
That's a big get for us, Donald.
That's a huge get.
Holy shit, I can't believe we did it.
Well, you did it, but I'm gonna say we did it.
Well, you can say we did it.
Because I'm part of it.
But you know, you and I have been talking about,
you know, getting guests that are people we really admire.
We have been doing that obviously,
but continuing to pursue people. It doesn't matter who they are. If they're a doctor, if have been doing that obviously, but continuing to pursue people,
doesn't matter who they are, if they're a doctor,
if they're a sex therapist or if they're a director we like,
but just trying to get people
that we are really interested in.
And we are both very interested in John Chu
and what a fantastic job he did on Wicked.
What's his next movie that he's doing?
That he's directing. I know, I read that,
by the way, I read that he's gonna do Joseph,
which you and I really are too old for,
but we need to audition for him when he's on the show.
He's gonna do Technicolor Dreamco?
Yes.
I don't know if it's next.
But that's not his next, that's not the next one.
There's something else that I've read
that's like pretty exciting.
I don't know if it's a musical or not,
but if it is, he does them well.
I think he's doing La La Land 2.
That would be awesome.
No, he's not.
I think he's got a lot of kids under five or something,
which is insane to do what he did
and have that many young children.
I mean, obviously it goes without saying
they must have help, he and his wife,
but to take on an undertaking of the scale of Wicked and have like, I don't without saying they must have help, he and his wife, but to take
on an undertaking of the scale of Wicked and have like, I don't know what it is, Daniel,
maybe you can look it up.
He's got like four kids under five or something like that.
I'll look it up.
I was disappointed at the Golden Globes, but I was also very happy for a lot of people.
What disappointed you?
You wanted Wicked.
Yeah, what disappointed you?
Well, I wanted Ariana and Cynthia to win, but the people who won, I was very happy for a lot of people. What disappointed you? You wanted, what disappointed you? Well, I wanted, I wanted Ariana and Cynthia to win,
but the people who won, I was very happy for.
Like I was very happy that Demi Moore won.
I was very happy that she won.
You know what I mean?
And I was very happy.
Did you see that movie, Donald?
Did you see the substance?
I did, I have not seen the substance.
I think you like it.
You gotta see the substance.
You gotta see it.
But not just that, I was very happy that Zoe Saldana won also, you know what I mean?
That was, I was very happy about that.
I saw that movie, Amelia Perez, and she is wonderful in it.
She's a very, very good actress, and I'm happy for her, and her speech was lovely.
And by the way, I don't think you'd like Amelia Perez knowing you,
but I think you will love the substance.
Well, yeah, man, I think I would like Amelia Perez,
however you say. I don't know,
you might like it, it is a musical.
And it is, it's subtitled, so that's kinda tough.
Maybe you like it, maybe I'm wrong, but.
What's that?
It's subtitled and so I'd have to stand really close
to the screen so I could read the words.
Why do you have to stand close?
I just saw you got some.
My eyesight is going.
I saw you just got glasses.
Yeah, but that's to read, man.
Oh, then why didn't you also get.
That's next.
So you went to the doctor and only got one pair of glasses
when you need two? No, I went to the doctor and I didn one pair of glasses when you need two?
No, I went to the doctor and I didn't go to the doctor.
My wife was like, you need readers.
Oh, readers.
Yeah.
Oh, why don't you go to the ophthalmologist, my friend?
That's the next step.
Especially since you're checking in on all your health.
That's the next step.
Those glasses are cool.
You got those readers though.
I like them.
What else can we talk about before we, we're waiting for the legendary Johnny C. McGinley
to join us, talk about all things Johnny C.
What else have you been watching that you liked?
Skeleton Crew.
Skeleton Crew, okay.
It's-
That's a kids Disney show, right?
It's a Star Wars show that stars Jude Law
and a bunch of kids.
And it is, I mean, they don't need,
I'm gonna be, me personally,
I feel like they've now found the stars
of the next generation for Star Wars.
We don't need to worry about Rey Skywalker.
We don't need to worry about Finn or Poe Dameron.
They can be in the background now.
Let's follow these four kids on their adventure
after whatever this show is.
It's supposed to tie into this grand movie that's coming out later on that John Favreau
and Dave Filoni are putting together where they explain how Palpatine returns in the
Star Wars sequel trilogy, but I think they found four really good people
to follow into the future.
And we don't need to,
it has nothing to do with Luke Skywalker,
it has nothing to do with any of that.
These kids are so good and so smart,
and they're playing this so well
that I think this is the future of
Star Wars.
I would stick to this instead of trying to figure out how to piece together all of this
puzzle that Ryan Johnson and J.J. Abrams created when they decided to retcon some shit and
kill certain people
and stuff like that.
Are they building another big Star Wars movie?
They must be, right?
Who's developing the next big Star Wars movie
that can continue from what JJ did?
It's Dave Filoni that's doing it.
And Dave is a master of Star Wars.
So he has the reins now for the next big Star Wars movie.
Yeah, him and Fav.
And who will be in it from the cast?
Will it be Adam Driver?
Adam Driver's in Star Wars?
He's Kylo Ren.
Why didn't I know that? He's dead.? Why, why did- Oh, that's right. Why did I not know that?
He's dead.
How did I not know that?
He's dead though.
But wait, let's go, but you were off weed
and you didn't know Adam Driver was in Star Wars?
I didn't know who Adam Driver was for a hot second.
I'm like, who the fuck is Adam Driver?
That must be like a weed remnant,
like just like firing off in your brain.
Look, dude, for like, for like-
This is like your religion and I'm like, is Jesus in it?
And you're like, who's Jesus?
Yeah, dude, for like, for like three weeks, I still felt high.
And every now and then I still get that little-
I'm here to tell you that Adam Driver is in Star Wars.
Right, he plays Kylo Ren.
And don't tell me he's dead, that's a spoiler.
No, it's not a spoiler.
He dies in The Rise of Skywalker.
Spoiler!
You saw The Rise of Skywalker at my house.
What are you talking about? I did.
Yeah. You want to see my baby?
Yeah, I do want to see your baby.
She's 80 pounds. I got to use both.
Oh, God. Oh, God.
Don't hurt your back.
Oh, God. You're so fat.
Don't get that hernia.
Hey, baby.
This is Penny. Penny, say hi to the audience.
Look at those eyes. This is Penny. Penny say hi to the audience. Look at those eyes.
She's beautiful.
I love her.
Okay baby.
80 pounds.
Yeah it's officially a foster fail Donald.
You did it.
I'm in love.
I knew you, I knew that's what it was gonna be.
Everyone did.
Everyone on my Instagram was like, there's no way you're giving this dog
up
I've made some really good Star Wars stuff in my
animation room I
Put my motion control camera to the test and it's doing its thing really you've got it figured out
No, I have people come over to help me out. I have they're educating you they're teaching you
They are teaching me and I am being educated. It's hard man. It's not I
You know
I got into stop-motion animation because of my love of special effects and the behind-the-scenes stuff that you see in
Your movies like the Marvel movies and the Star Wars movies and stuff like that.
That's since a kid, if I didn't become an actor,
I probably would have went into that.
And doing it as an older man, it's challenging.
It's very challenging to retain all of the knowledge
that if I was a young man and I was learning it,
I would be able to breeze through.
But-
Well, it probably helps to not be high
when they're teaching you.
Well, I'm not high anymore.
No, I'm saying like it probably helps your education
to not be like, you know, under the influence.
You wanna hear something.
So the stuff that I learned when I was high,
I've completely forgot.
So it's like, all right, how do I remember that?
Like I turned on all of my equipment
because I had it set up for this motion control shot
for the short that I'm working on.
And we at the last, at our last meeting or our last shoot,
they set the table back up so
I can animate again.
And me trying to figure out how to move the motion control rig has become, you know, it
has to be centered.
It needs to be zeroed.
Like there's so many things and I forgot all of it because when I learned it, I was stoned
to the bone.
Wow.
And now I'm sober.
Kids, not even once.
Not even once, kids.
Oh shit.
That sounds tasty.
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to trigger you.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm good though, I'm good.
I don't want to do it anymore.
Well, your wife must be happy that you're trying new things.
Well, she was, that's the crazy thing.
Once I got off of it, she was like,
motherfucker, don't you got something to animate now?
Or, you know, like, cause I'm all up her,
all up over her. Oh, you're like,
hanging out with her more?
And she's like, ain't the Knicks playing or something?
Oh.
She can't take it. She's like, damn, the Knicks playing or something?
She can't take it. She's like, damn man. You're giving her too much attention?
Too much attention.
Yeah. See, you need a lot of attention.
I do. I love attention.
When I'm dating someone, I like lots of attention too, but I give lots of attention.
Yeah, so do I. I like to give.
But your wife is like, get the fuck away from me.
Go do your hobby.
Yeah, my wife is not a cuddler.
You guys don't watch the same thing.
She doesn't cuddle you.
No.
You guys don't watch the same thing either, right?
No.
How are your basketball teams doing?
The Knicks were doing good.
They just lost three in a row though.
You know, Bill Lawrence has some floor seats for the Lakers.
Bullshit.
We haven't been invited yet.
Does he go?
Does he use them?
Yes.
I don't think he has every game, but he's got lots of games.
Bill, if you're not using your tickets, hook a brother up.
He doesn't listen to this show anymore, so it's fine.
He claims it's his podcast.
He claims it's his podcast, but I don't think he listens to it.
And if he did, if he does, Bill, Donald and I would like to use your floor seats for the Lakers.
Please.
Let's take a break.
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Dressing.
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Exactly.
Ha ha ha.
Oh, that's good.
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Hey, man.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, the legendary Johnny C. McGinley.
What's happening, star?
How are you, brother?
Hello, Donald.
Hello, Zacky.
Good to see you, sir.
I'm coming to you, I know this won't be for a week or two, where the Pacific Palisades
are on fire.
Again?
What the fuck?
I can see the fire from my house, man.
This shit is for real right now, man.
At the top of the hill is on-
Yeah, that's the panic at the disco down there.
I bet.
Really, in the Palisades.
Now, the last time, Johnny, you were dealing with the fire.
We were trying to, audience, we were trying to have Johnny on a few weeks ago before the
holiday, but Malibu was having
crazy fires.
Well, it was raging here last night, that wind.
Did you guys feel the wind in town?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, we don't live near each other, but it is windy.
On the other side of the hill, you must have been feeling fumble through there.
It is amazing how powerful the wind is right now. I've never seen a palm tree bend that much and still like it looks like they're
about to snap. That's how much they're bending.
Eighty miles per hour wind outside right now.
Johnny, can you get fire insurance in Malibu still?
Some people can. Some people can't.
It's just randomly canceled on you.
And we still have it.
But a lot of my neighbors do not.
And there's not a whole lot you can do about it.
You're completely gambling with your biggest investment.
It's crazy.
Yes.
I think if the fire, what's in vogue is if your fire insurance is taken away from you, people start their own fund independent of that
and tag it specifically for replacement expenses.
If you're in a position to be able to do that,
which is-
Oh, I guess if you're, well, not every,
I mean, I know everyone assumes everyone in Malibu
is wealthy because it's a very expensive place to live,
but I'm sure not everyone is, of course.
So what do they do?
They're kind of gambling with their...
I mean, the fires are so common,
or the threat of fire is so common.
You know, I went to Sean Penn's house,
who is your neighbor once,
and he has this incredible rig that is a pump,
and the intake goes into your swimming pool.
I know you know this because you've been to his house,
you're his friend, but, and then, and then Donald,
it then becomes a pump that you can put out,
put out your house by pumping your pool water
all over your house.
That's smart.
That's smart.
Johnny, you need to get one of those.
Oh, you don't have a pool.
I don't have a pool, but I'm speaking to you today
because I've spent the last couple of weeks
installing a generator.
Yes, I have one of those.
That's the most important, yeah.
Yeah.
I wanna get the solar generator.
And my happiness factor right now is through the roof.
Why, cause the power's out or no?
Oh yeah, power's been out since nine o'clock this morning.
So you have, so it's powers, what percentage of your house?
Well, I have the ice machine is off, the hot house is off, the golf shack is off, all the
trappings. All your luxe trappings are off.
So there's a light. Are you going to be able to survive without your golf simulator and your sauna ice plunge? That's a good question.
I'm going to breathe.
By the way, I have one of those and I always feel bad because the power where I live goes out often.
And then the thing fire up in the Hollywood Hills.
Power goes out a bunch.
But it kicks on and it's loud.
Mm, and I'm the only house.
Yes, this is loud as well.
And I'm the only house lit up on the block.
And I feel like a jerk because no one else has any power,
but I'm like fully lit up and making noise.
You know what's cool?
This whole area where I live, and Zachy is familiar is familiar Donald you've given me the cold shoulder coming over
But this whole area is buzzing with generators right now. Yeah. Yeah, I'm surprised nobody has the solar generator
You got it. You're gonna have to find out how much that pulls a lot of Sun. You need a lot of Sun
You might not have the Sun. So in other words the 10 10,000 watt thing that I bought, uh, is a big Honda beast.
And is it a brand?
Yeah.
It runs on gasoline.
No, it runs off the gasoline.
No.
Mine runs on gasoline.
Oh, mine runs off the gas line.
Yes.
You're very fancy.
And you are very fancy.
Mine runs off the gas line. And then very fancy. Mine runs off the gas line and then...
What if the city cuts off the gas?
Oh, very good question, Donald, because if there's an earthquake, we live in Los Angeles,
the gas lines, they have an earthquake protection thing that shuts the gas line off.
Well, then if you were smart enough to get a propane backup tank,
it will run off propane for X amount of hours
depending on how much you're pulling off of it.
You know when you talk to me this way,
I find you to be a sexy motherfucker.
Really, you like this generator talk.
Dude, I like any do-it-yourself shit.
I don't know if the audience is bored,
but I'm so interested in house generators.
Any do-it-yourself hardware projects, you got me.
Well, I didn't do it myself.
You probably actually did some work.
I have to confess that I would not know how to do the work,
but I do have a setup.
Wait a second, Johnny, you installed your generator?
Yeah, I ran it under the house.
Yeah, he's handy.
I did bring an electrician to rewire some of the board.
But that, of course, the deal is when you come here
as a vendor to do a project, I get to help.
Really?
Otherwise you can't come.
I did that with my contractor.
He was gonna put together a big ass pergola.
And I got the instructions.
I was like, I cannot do this alone.
This is, I don't know what the to think like, it's not like IKEA.
Like it was meant to be put together by someone who knows what they're doing.
But I said to him, cause he's my friend now, I said, I'd like to do it with you.
And he was like, he looked at me like, you're not going to really do this.
You're going to spend a half hour and then get bored.
Cause it was like a day, it was like a full day project.
Absolutely.
And I helped him, I helped him and he taught me a bunch of things
and I had the best time.
And I liked that idea.
I do too, and it's been that way all the way through.
I was kind of the co-contractor in this house
because it's no different than producing a film.
You marshal men every morning.
Whatever their specialty is,
you marshal them in the right direction.
And I reserve the right to ask questions and help.
Yeah.
I can take a Phillips screwdriver as well as the next guy.
Come on, give me a break.
Well, I felt like it was like taking a class.
I think that's great.
There were lots of things I didn't know
and he's the nicest guy.
I know nothing.
He was just educating.
I'm a good learner.
Yeah.
I like that.
Well, it seems like you'd know a lot more
than most people do.
Most people wouldn't dare try to set up
their own generator to their house.
But like we laid a cement pad with some rebar in it
to put the, and I've laid tons of cement
and that's comfortable to me
Right then I like cure for a little while and I love the laying pipe
Don't I?
Go on 17 of 30. I do
He's not lying though Johnny. I do like to lay that like to lay pipe. Let's take a break
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Dressing.
Oh, French dressing.
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I'm Ellie Flynn and I'm an investigative journalist.
When a group of models from the UK wanted my help,
I went on a journey deep into the heart of the adult entertainment industry.
I really wanted to be a playboy model.
Lingerie, topless.
I said, yes, please.
Because at the center of this murky world
is an alleged predator.
You know who he is because of his pattern of behavior?
He's just spinning the web for you to get trapped in it.
He's everywhere and has been everywhere.
It's so much worse and so much more widespread
than I had anticipated.
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We're an army in comparison to him.
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How are things?
Audience should know about Johnny C.'s podcast.
Johnny, tell them about your podcast, how they find it.
It's Connective Tissue is the title.
I love it.
You get some of the most incredible guests.
Just pitch it a little bit to our audience
who love you and might not know about your podcast.
Connective Tissue is an exploration of storytellers
looking at storytelling.
It's that narrow.
Zachy came on, you were astonishing.
Thank you.
And it's half an acting class, half a production class.
It's half how people became storytellers,
what the tipping point was, what is storytelling to them,
how does doubt creep in, why are you doing it,
why be a storyteller,
what was the influences for the storytellers.
And it's that narrow a lane.
I don't care about people's diets or who they just broke up with. It's really about storytellers
exploring storytelling. And from Sean Penn to Zach Braff to Randall Wallace to Brian Hauglin,
Keith David, Rory Kennedy, I've had on, including Jackie,
some of the most articulate people
who can explore storytelling that you can't turn it off.
I try to keep them within an hour.
Didn't you have David Mammon?
No, David has not been on yet.
Okay, what about Oliver Stone?
Oliver, that's a big get.
But you've gotten some gets, dude.
I was scrolling, I haven't listened to all of them,
I've listened to a bunch, but I was scrolling your guess
and obviously, because you're beloved
and have so many connections,
but you've got some amazing guests.
Eric Boghossian came on and he was fabulous.
I was thinking of Boghossian.
But also Keith David coming on
and being on the Mount Rushmore of voiceover artists
and to have Keith explore
what he does when he's voicing those astonishing documentaries, he and Peter Coyote, that's
it.
It's Peter Coyote and-
He does the few, the proud, the Marines, man.
He's freaking got a contract with the government.
That's how amazing Keith is, Doug.
Keith's it.
He's the man.
He's also a dear friend of mine, and we've done a few together.
You've got to get Oliver, dude.
I know it's a hard get, and he's tricky, but I just feel like everyone would want to tune
in to hear you and Oliver tell platoon stories and Wall Street stories.
Oliver's a different cat, man.
I don't know how many stories he wants to talk about.
Well, some of the stories that you told us about working with him are amazing, dude.
But that's me telling it.
Oliver's different.
Oliver's a different cat, man.
He is, in fact, the smartest guy in the room.
He doesn't suffer fools.
And I'm not sure if he would be interested in breaking down storytelling.
It's a great idea.
I just have- You should try
just because I feel like he loves you
and he would, I feel like Oliver Stone's not saying yes
to most people, but he might say yes to you.
It's a great idea.
Donald and I are trying to,
now that we're in this new incarnation
where we're having guests on
and trying to reach out to people
that we just find interesting.
And for us, it could be anywhere from a sex therapist to-
I heard the sex therapist.
Yeah, you've heard him.
Did it work?
We did two. We did two different ones.
I heard the first and the second, and it was genius.
What did you think?
Yeah, it was good, right?
It made Donald so uncomfortable and where the line was that you were allowed to go.
And I'm listening, I'm going like, is he going to jump on this?
Is he going to jump on this? Is he gonna jump on this?
And you didn't, you exercised more restraint
and more decorum than I've ever witnessed you.
I don't think I did, I think they edited out
a lot of the shit that I said.
Oh, well, I thought you were on unbelievable behavior.
I think you were on good behavior.
The thing about the sex therapist that's amazing is she,
her whole thing is like, don't censor yourself.
Ask me anything you want to ask me, no matter.
But her partner, wasn't her partner on with her?
I don't know.
Yeah, her husband, her husband doesn't with her, yeah.
But that's liberating to be able to talk to her
with her husband on is quite, it seemed to liberate you guys.
Yeah, well.
I think so many of these issues are so taboo still.
People go, I don't know, I want to ask this question,
but I'm embarrassed.
I mean, even us who are, or even,
what do I say, even we, even us?
Even the two of us.
Even the two of us who are pretty unfiltered, uncensored.
I think she's wonderful because she has this attitude
of like, don't censor yourself, ask me anything,
anything that's on your mind.
Well, as far as things being taboo,
we now, I haven't been on this set yet, this given set,
but there are now intimacy coordinators on sets.
And Zach, will you explain what that is?
Well, for those of you who don't know,
if you're gonna do a sex scene
or anything involving nudity,
there's now a position on set to protect everyone,
the people not involved, the crew,
particularly the people who are involved,
so that there isn't this unknown territory
of how is this gonna go?
I directed a couple scenes now with an intimacy corner.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, and the way it works is I go to the intimacy corner
and she says, what do you expect this scene to be?
And I said, okay, I want, for example, in a good person,
there's a scene where a young man is making out
with a girl who's intoxicated and he's on the verge of,
he is already crossing a line.
So she says, what do you want this to be?
Well, I want it to be X, Y, and Z, and I pictured this,
and maybe he grabs her in this way,
and as detailed as possible.
She then goes to the two actors and says,
this is what the director has in mind,
to each of them separately.
And do you have any problem with that?
She then comes back to me and says,
here's what they are okay with, here's what, you know,
and then together on set, when you what they are okay with, here's what, you know, and then together on set
when you're choreographing it, she is there
and she is sort of being the liaison, if you will,
because this is after, you know, decades of people
feeling uncomfortable.
So that is a new.
And did the scene work in your film,
but did it work, did the mechanics of it work on the day?
Yeah, it was all great.
I think it, you know, I think it protects everyone.
Some people, you know, don't like it,
have been voiced not liking the system and saying,
oh, come on.
Has it robbed spontaneity in the frame?
Yeah, you can't, you gotta stick to what you,
I've had an intimacy coordinator twice.
Oh, you have? Yes, you have to stick to what you guys discussed. What if something is sparking for
the two of us and for Bob and Susan and all of a sudden Susan is on a train of thought and a train of behavior
that Bob, it wasn't in the blueprint for Bob
and now spontaneity, the frame, what about that?
I think it's about communication.
I think that Susan could say like, hey, you know.
It's all right if you do this.
Yeah, you can grab my breast or this is hot.
Why don't we do, when we do another take,
if it's okay with you, grab my, I'm just pulling this out of my ass, grab my breast or this is hot. Why don't we do, when we do another take, if it's okay with you, grab my,
I'm just pulling this out of my ass, grab my breast.
And then, I think it's just about like,
everything's fine as long as there's communication
and people don't feel, I think in the past,
here's an example, women were feeling like
they were being pushed to do things
that they hadn't signed on to do. And then they were being pushed to do so that they hadn't signed on to do.
And then they were being pushed to do so in front of the crew and in front of everyone.
Of course.
And they weren't feeling safe or they were feeling pressured.
And the goal, I think, is to eliminate anybody feeling uncomfortable or pressured into something
they didn't sign up for. I think in an SAT context, your sex therapist is to couples
as a intimacy coordinator is to actors.
Yeah, I think that's right.
It's about like, hey, we never talked about this.
Yeah.
Well, there's probably some breakthroughs for us to have
if we had honest talks about sex
because people stereotypically,
in the past, haven't sat down and talked about what they like and what they don't like.
And it might allow one of the two people participating in an intimacy coordinator's coordination
to put their dukes down, whether the guy has apprehension or the woman has apprehension.
Maybe you could lighten your burden there
because of this third party.
I don't know.
I haven't been on that set yet.
I will say as I've gotten older, I don't necessarily like doing sex scenes and stuff like that.
I mean, I'll do it.
Why is that?
I just don't, I don't like, it feels, it feels weird.
You know what I mean?
It feels weird to have all these people with cameras and everything on you.
And I remember,
I remember when the intimacy coordinator came in and they were like, we wanna make sure we get a shot of you,
not a physical shot of it,
but we wanna show that you have now penetrated her.
And I was like, oh my God.
Jesus.
Yeah, exactly.
And so then that had to be acted out.
You sort of had to act out that you were going inside of her?
That I was going in, yeah.
Okay.
Did you do that well?
I think I did.
Show us what it would look like.
No. But it was just, I just remember it.
I had to do that once too in the last kiss.
It feels weird, you know what I mean?
It's weird just to think about how I do it.
Isn't necessarily how the intimacy coordinator or the other person sees it.
And so now you're acting like, you know what I mean?
You're acting, it feels fake kind of like,
I don't mind an intimacy coordinator.
It makes me feel safe, but yo, clear to set.
I just want the camera guy there.
You know what I mean?
Well, that's part of it.
Part of it is like, you know, making sure,
the intimacy coordinator is also there to like make sure
that there's no need for this to be going
to everyone's monitors and phones, you know.
Was there ever an intimacy coordinator on scrubs
for you guys? Absolutely not.
No, no. Hell no.
I don't think so.
No. Hell no.
I didn't know if maybe there was and I wasn't aware of it.
No, we were just doing it.
That was the wild west, man.
But you and Judy were, and you and Sarah,
Zachy, you guys were wildly intimate.
I know that pizza episode, me and Sarah,
we were just like, I couldn't believe,
even when we shot it, I was like,
they're gonna put this on network TV?
Like we were, that felt at the time very R rated
for prime time television. We were, that felt at the time, very R rated
for prime time television. But also Dee and Judy were mackin' and loving each other
all the time.
But I felt safe with Judy.
Donald put his tongue in her mouth very early on.
No, she put her tongue in my mouth
and I made the mistake of saying,
oh, she slipped me the tongue.
Right, and then you never got it again.
I never got it again. I never got it again.
And that was my fault.
That was like first season.
You were like, oh, I got tongue.
It was pilot episode, bro.
Yeah.
And then eight years later, you never got tongue again.
No, but- Is that true?
Yeah, but I felt so safe with Judy.
Judy and I, I don't know if she felt the same way with me,
but Judy and I, we had a lot of sex scenes together.
A lot.
And it never felt like,
it never felt like, you know,
either one of us was out of control or either,
I can't speak for her,
but it never felt like,
I never felt, I never felt conscious of my weight.
You know, I never felt conscious.
There's all of these things that come into play.
I felt safe with Judy.
I think that's the ultimate form of chemistry
is when you can feel safe no matter what.
Like whether we were kissing, whether we were talking,
if I had scenes with Judy, I knew I was good, you know?
Did you guys give yourself a mandate
for your course correction or your pivot with fake doctors?
Not really.
Did you boil it down to here's what we're going to do now?
I think it really just became we want to talk to people we find interesting.
I mean, I know that's not very narrow. It's the opposite of what you're saying. You have a very,
very specific niche. That's the mandate for your own podcast.
I think for Donald and I, it was like, obviously,
we prefer people that make us laugh,
because for the most part, not every episode,
but for the most part, it's a comedy podcast.
So we like people that have a sense of humor.
But we have, we had the Surgeon General on,
that wasn't a laugh riot, but he was fascinating.
And we had Professor Scott Galloway on, it wasn't a laugh riot, but he's fascinating.
That was fantastic.
That was a good one, right?
It was great.
So I just think that people that we go, it doesn't matter if you're an actor,
we're not limited to famous people or actors, but just people that we go,
I want to talk to that person.
I think that's the goal is.
I did the same thing with,
I opened up the aperture a little bit with storytellers
and I had on a real estate guy here in Malibu
who has sold $8 billion in residential real estate.
I know that guy's name.
What is his name?
I'll tell you in a second.
And what he did that was so interesting is because of course a house comes with a story and
Which realtor is telling that story in a way that resonates for this buyer more than the other guy?
Told it and I'm gonna do the same thing with a venture capitalist
I'm gonna do it with a doula
because you're picking this doula to birth your child,
which has to be the most important event in your life.
Why'd you pick her?
And what story did she tell you about her experience?
How did her story calm you and go,
oh, I want that person here with me
in the bottom of the ninth, when the bases are jacked,
I want her coming into the pool,
into the birthing tub with me.
What story is she telling?
His name is Chris Cortazzo.
Yes, Chris Cortazzo.
Chris, what Chris said, what was so interesting,
because I kept trying to,
there's no gotcha in connective tissue.
And so it allows
storytellers to lower their dukes. I don't want to ambush you. I really want to know as Zacky,
you were so unbelievably articulate when you came on. I really want to know specifically
your relationship to storytelling and what Chris finally, instead of telling,
I call it the first date face, you know, sometimes we tell people what we think they wanna hear.
And I'm not interested in that.
I really wanna dig into storytelling
as I did with you, Zachy.
And when it was stripped away with Chris Cartazzo,
this real estate savant,
I said, well, but what's different about you?
And he goes, I'm really nice.
Which is the exact opposite of what you associate
with realtors who'll slit each other's throats,
euphemistically, to get a commission.
And Chris was like, no, no.
What he did was brilliant.
I watched it happen.
And there's an area of Malibu that he, little by little, he sort of bought all of it.
I mean, it obviously offered his success.
And then once he owned all of it, he just said,
all right, this neighborhood is now this much more money.
And it was, I mean, it's only a move a power realtor
could make, but you know, it's pretty impressive what he accomplished.
But that's all part of his vision
with the story he was telling.
That's what I mean, there's connective tissue
back to the story you're telling,
and your capacity as a storyteller to communicate your story.
And so from Chris to this doula I'm gonna have on,
it's really interesting to open up the scope
of storytellers.
Now, you can't just have random Bob or Sue on
if they're not capable of articulating.
So there is quite a bit of discretion I need to exercise
with who I'm inviting on.
If someone is shrugging and I don't know,
I mean, you know, and all this bullshit, that doesn't work.
I need someone who has capacity to articulate
what their journey is.
You should have Bill Lawrence on.
It's a hard get.
I know he's quite busy.
He's a little busy.
You know, it's funny, I was with Bill a lot this holiday
and I can't really understand how he manages to do all that he's doing.
Not only does he have his family that he's obviously so involved in and such a good dad,
but he's got like six shows going.
And I just, it's hard enough to fathom being a show runner of one show.
100%.
And granted, he's got an amazing staff, an amazing team,
and lots of other incredible writers helping him
and producers, our friend Randall being one of them.
Great.
But man, it's hard to, I watch it,
my point is I watch it from the sidelines
and I'm like, fucking hell.
Like one of those things would stress me out.
You're talking about six things.
Yes, Donald.
Does he do them all at the same time
or does he spread it out?
That's the question.
They're spread out, but for example,
multiple right now, currently just as an example,
the Shrinking Writers Room is going
and Shrinking's about to go into production.
That's right.
The Writers Room for the new Carell show is going
and that's gonna soon go into production.
So there are multiple, and then the other ones are like,
you know, the Bad Monkey season two is happening,
but that's a little bit far out,
but he's gotta get writers writing those scripts.
So they all overlap.
Plus the Ted Lasso reboot.
Yes, plus the Ted Lasso reboot.
Plus the possible scrubs reboot.
Plus the possible scrubs reboot, and, plus the Ted Lasso reboot. Plus the possible Scrubs reboot. Plus the possible Scrubs reboot and more.
That's five or six.
Yeah, and then he's got other stuff that's happening too.
But it's, I don't know.
I don't know how I'd sleep at night,
let alone managing to find time for family
and also your own recreation.
Cause you don't want to get so busy
that your whole life is only working.
It seems that on the drama side,
Taylor Sheraton is cut from the same cloth as Bill
in how prodigiously spread out he is.
Do you watch those shows, John?
I love them.
Really, I gotta get on the Yellowstone train.
I'm not joined to party.
Yellowstone's good,
but the guy's gotten better and better at his job. Landman with Billy Bob Thornton.
I hear Landman.
He's off the chart.
Yeah, I'm gonna write that down.
Zoe Saldana and Lioness is as good as it gets.
Lioness and Landman.
Is that the one with her and Nicole Kidman?
Yes. And they're both great.
Okay. I've been hearing this about Lioness and Landman.
Lioness, she goes undercover, right?
And she's like an undercover agent.
Yes, it's special ops.
It's Mr. and Mrs. Smith meets special ops.
She's such good actors.
Mr. and Mrs. Smith, when Brad and Angelina Jolie did it,
it was a little tongue-in-cheek
Lioness is not this is the end of the world. This is desperately serious. I like that but she she's trying to manage
two teenage girl a teenage girl and and a younger one and a marriage and
Being the head of a special ops group that is playing for real. And it's freaking great.
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Johnny, did you watch The Golden Globes?
Do you have any favorite movies this year?
I don't have favorite movies as much as I have favorite TV shows.
Okay.
You're a TV guy.
What else are you watching?
The guy, the Michael Fassbender, who I'm endlessly fascinated by.
Did you hear the Fassbender story?
Is doing a remake of a French undercover thing called The Agency.
Yeah, The Agency.
And he's, he's fricking great.
Did you hear the Michael Fassbender?
We don't need to repeat the story.
Yes, we do.
We went to Vegas and tell the quick version because the audience already
heard the story.
We went to Vegas and Michael Fassbender mistook young Zach Braff for
Dax Shepard and His way of mistaken he goes he came up to Zach and goes I fucking love you. You're so amazing
Everything you do is great, and I love chips. Yeah, you love his chips
Well, I was the one that said it I I was like, Doug, no, you're thinking of somebody else.
But then Donald being a sweet friend trying to big up me,
he was like, no, this is Zach Raff.
He made Garden State.
Garden State.
He made a good person.
Oh, well done, dude.
Donald starts listing my credits.
And this dude, he tried to walk away from us like,
oh, my bad.
I was like, no, motherfucker, you're not going nowhere.
Hold up.
It was definitely one of the cringiest moments of my 2024,
especially because my heart soared
because I love him and respect him so much as a thespian.
And he was talking to me as though I would talk to,
you know, Scorsese.
Scorsese, yes.
He was like, what you do, no one can do.
And I'm like, thank you.
I mean, he had like his hand on my chest
and I was just glowing from the inside.
And then he said, I mean, chips?
And I was like, oh my God.
Hey, so then I texted Dax Shepard, Johnny,
and I was like, it is important for you to know
how much Michael Fassbender loves chips
because this compliment should not be wasted on that.
That was a righteous thing for you to do.
Yeah, I was like, bro, you need to know
that this is clearly a movie that means a lot to him.
I can also recommend the girl, Kira Knightley.
I love her.
Yeah.
Something doves, black doves, black doves.
She's fricking great.
Yeah.
And the guy who, who was James Bond's new gadget guy for a second.
Um, well, Ben, Ben, he's something.
Yeah.
He's really handsome guy and he's great.
Daniel, are you there?
Will you look that up?
Ben something.
And the two of them are, he's such a good actor.
Yeah, he is.
That's a good show.
I watched that one.
It's fantastic.
And you can binge the whole thing.
So yes, I am afraid this year I've been enjoying
TV shows more than movies to tell you the truth.
All right, now, John.
I gotta ask you both this question now.
Okay, I was gonna have my turn.
As of right now.
Okay, calm down.
As of right now.
Go ahead.
If it was a movie or a television show.
Go ahead.
That was offered up.
Go ahead.
What are you gonna take?
It depends on who's involved.
No, they're both equally impressive.
Whoever's on the show hands down.
You're gonna go TV show.
Yeah, well the TV show's gonna mean more work
of doing the thing you love.
Yes, Daniel?
Ben Whishaw?
Ben Whishaw, thank you.
He's a phenomenal actor.
That guy can throw.
Yeah, I fucking love that guy.
He was Daniel Craig's new gadget guy.
Q.
Q, that's it.
Yeah.
I couldn't think of Q. And he was great.
He was so glib and he was great.
He was really good.
And he was phenomenal in the Keira Knightley thing.
He was really good in the Mary Poppins reboot too.
He was actually, he played the dad in it and he was the dramatic.
Oh, you were the guy who saw that. Yeah, I was the one person. He was actually, he played the dad in it. And he was the dramatic.
Oh, you were the guy who saw that.
Yeah, I was the one person.
I was the one person.
But he was very dramatic in it.
And he had the dramatic role in the movie.
And he did a great job.
Johnny, Donald, may I have a question now?
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay, thank you.
Johnny, as one of New Jersey's most beloved sons, what are your thoughts on New Jersey
being infiltrated and attacked by drones and UFOs?
By aliens, dude.
What the fuck is going on?
I have had more contradicting reports on this, and it's kind of fabulous to think that it
is contact, isn't it?
Yes.
I believe so.
It's easy to be cynical so quick,
but it would be really great if they picked
the garden state as the touch point.
It makes sense.
It totally, Thomas Alva Edison was in there,
Alan Alda, Zach Braff, Jenny Schenkenly, Jack Nicholson.
Well, listen, the world, many people don't know this,
but cinema itself began in West Orange, New Jersey.
And there's a museum there
where Edison invented the film camera.
And there's a thing called the Black Mariah.
I know this because, not because of film school,
because as a child I was taken there,
which was a room, a large room,
the first sound stage, if you will,
not a sound stage, the first room you filmed in,
and it was on a circular track with a retractable ceiling
and it would spin to find the sun.
Wherever the sun was, you could rotate the room
on the black Mariah, you can look this up on the Google.
I would fucking date you, Zachy.
You talk like this and generators the Google. I would fucking date you, Zeki. You talk like this.
I would too.
And generators.
I would date you.
I know.
I gotta find a really nice woman version of Johnny C.
I would date you.
We would be a fucking good couple.
What is that key and peel sketch where the boxers and they're talking at the-
I just ditched that one the other day.
And they're talking about the fight right before the fight. The shit talking each other.
Yeah.
And one guy goes, all I'm saying is we get in the ring, it's going to be bam boom, I'm
going to knock you out.
And then the other guy kind of does a Mike Tyson talk and he's like, listen, the only
thing that's going to happen is I'm going to get in that ring and I'm going to fuck
you in the ass.
And he's like, what?
He goes, he goes, he goes, yeah, man, he likes
to get all in people's heads. He said, no, no, no, I'm not talking about getting in your
head. I'm talking about getting in your asshole. I'm going to love you. We're going to go out
on dates and I'm going to take you out. We're going to be a couple that holds hands all
the time. Just when we get comfortable and everybody's like looking at us like oh
There's such a sweet couple. They look like they go and do great things together
I'm gonna take you home, and I'm gonna enjoy fucking you in your ass
Storytellers like Donald is I'm gonna go watch this and it's not gonna be half as good
like Donald is. I'm gonna go watch this,
and it's not gonna be half as good.
No, wait, Donald has just told me.
It's gonna be better.
It is, it is.
No, it's better.
I promise you.
I'll send it to you.
When we get off the phone,
we'll send it to you.
It's fucking hilarious.
It makes you so sad that Jordan Peele
seemingly doesn't wanna do sketch comedy ever again,
because he was one of the greats to ever do it,
and it is the funniest fucking sketch.
All Donald and I do these days is send each other
on DMs back and forth,
Key and Peele sketches. Key and Peele sketches. Oh, well put me in. I wanna be circled into it. All Donald and I do these days is send each other on DMs back and forth, key and peal
sketches.
Key and peal sketches.
Oh, well put me in.
I want to be circled under it.
All right, best.
All right, we'll add you.
You're in.
I don't know as much as I should know on that front.
Oh, you're in.
They were brilliant.
And on Instagram, they sort of like cut them down to like just like a minute of the sketch.
So it's the funniest part.
Did you guys make, we do it a different than resolutions.
We do intentions.
We, New Year's intentions.
We have a bonfire down at the beach and tiny ones
since they're not in Vogue.
And then we, you write down your intention
on a little piece of paper and then you throw it
in the bonfire.
Did you guys make any intentions for 2025?
No, but we can right now in front of hundreds of thousands of people.
Donald, go.
I just want to get my health in check,
my family's health in check.
You know what I mean?
Like that's the goal.
I've already stopped drinking.
I've stopped smoking marijuana.
You're going to the gym?
I'm going to the gym every day now.
I'm trying to get that,
I don't know if I'll get a six pack again,
but I'm gonna try and get-
Why not?
If we do a scrum dream, dude,
I think you should be thin.
You know, you never know.
There's a rabbit hole of things
that could be in the way of that.
Like as far as lactose intolerant and celiac disease,
all of these things,
just not celiac. What?
You don't have celiac?
Not, what's the, where you're allergic to gluten? What's that? That's celiac
But you you would know if you have celiac you have it there's a test for it
You just might not you might be gluten sensitive, but that's not gonna inhibit your ability, but that's a good intention for
2025 I just want to get my health in check
I know I can't I know I can't nurture it because it's nature ultimately at the end of the day, but I wanna do my best
to keep my family and myself in good health.
That's my intention for 2025.
What about you, Zachy?
I would like to find love and-
Oh, right on.
And start a family if it's not too late for me. It might be too late for to start a family.
If it's not too late for me,
it might be too late for the start of family.
I don't know, but if it's not too late,
I'd like to have a family, start a family.
What do you mean too late?
Do you mean because you have,
do you have obstacles between your ears or what do you mean?
I just mean I'm 49 years old
and I know there's plenty of people
who have children up until they die, but I just mean
You know, I'm in a place now where I'm like, I'm not sure I'm on the fence if if if I'm gonna be someone
That has children or not. I I I feel like I could be swayed either way
Depending on whom I fall in love with and what she wants.
I feel like I could,
I always thought I would definitively have children,
but now I feel like I've reached a place in an age
where I'm like, I don't know, it could fall either way.
But I like the daydream of the idea of having a child.
Donald, did you know, even early on,
did you always know you were gonna be a father,
that you were gonna be a papa bear?
No, I had no clue.
I didn't, I was, I, I, you know, no, I had no clue.
But once it happened and I experienced it, it became, it's really gratifying.
It's, you know, watching yourself grow again.
It really is like a time machine.
You get to see yourself-
Have you gotten better at it as things have progressed?
No, I think I'm still learning.
I think the mistakes that I made in the past, I'm not going to make again, but I'm definitely-
Well, I think that qualifies as learning and growing and getting better at it if you were
to quantify it.
But I could fuck these kids up.
I could fuck up Rock or Wilder too, I'm sure of it.
You know what I mean?
But you're not going to, because it goes against
everything that you're about.
I don't think you're gonna do that, dude.
You're a really good dad.
And also Casey keeps you on the right track.
Yeah, well that's one thing that I did
that I'm very proud of, is that I chose
the right person finally.
I found the right one that, you know,
I was married before, I dated a bunch of chicks and all
of that stuff, chicks, I dated a bunch of women and all of that stuff.
But at the end of the day, I found the right one and I know it.
Zach, I love you.
Zach, I love you.
Like Zach was just saying, when he was leaning into, and this is the connective tissue, is
Casey, it's a two-way street, man.
It's a two-pronged front.
It ain't a solo act.
Otherwise, you crash and burn.
And for you, Zachy, to know that you're going to lean into someone else with Zach and whoever
this other person is, that's, at least you got the blueprint down. Well, I'm trying to put it, I'm trying to manifest it
and find my partner, my person.
The person that you can accept
and the person that accepts you is the,
when it happens, you can't fight it though.
You gotta let it go.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's so- Well, you can in fact fight it.
But then you're fucking, you're sabotaging yourself if you fight it.
Of course, but people do that every day.
That's true.
I do that every day.
That is true.
Johnny, what about you?
What intention did you set for 2025?
I took about four years off here, very much on purpose, because I didn't like the sniveling pedophile and Hitler leaders and this kind of stereotype that white middle-aged men
now are occupying in scripts. And so I turned everything down for the last three or four years
because I didn't want to perpetuate whatever that stigma is. And also now white middle-aged men are
stupid. And if you put me in front of a lens and say this face is stupid, it's bad casting.
And so you get sent these things and I didn't want to participate in that storytelling. And so I
didn't. And so I got to be here for three or four years and help with really some foundational value
structuring with the two girls and continue with Maxie. And everybody's in good shape here.
And so I was bold enough to say, I'm going to work my ass off this year as a storyteller.
Good.
Not that I'm going to take time off as parenting, but I am going to work 14 and 16 hour days
again.
Doesn't that-
And I'm good with it.
Oh, I was about to say, doesn't that scare you?
Because that kind of scares me now.
Like I don't want to miss, I want to work also.
I definitely want to get out there and make shit happen.
But I really enjoyed, since COVID,
I've really enjoyed being present and home
with my wife and children.
You know what I mean?
And it's like-
Yeah, well I've been daddy, mom.
I drive everybody.
I'm daddy the driver.
And what's great about being daddy the driver,
and this is a two
pronged participation response to you, Donald, what's great about being daddy the driver is people
chat in the back to their friends because I drive their friends. A. B. There's no one else on the
planet you're safer driving with me because nothing is going to fucking happen. And C,
unfortunately around here, and D, I'm sure you got to be arriving at this pretty soon,
I can hear a shot clock ticking to when the girls get their licenses and they're going to be the
fuck out of here, just like I was when Zach and I in Jersey, when you got your license, you were the fuck out.
And that's gonna happen around here.
And they're not gonna rely on me as much
for simply getting them from transporting them
from A to B.
And so I relish that responsibility.
That is not a burden to me, it never has been.
And so when there's four or five of you back there
and you're all chatty cathedrals,
I'm listening to every goddamn syllable and it's fantastic.
But I know people are going to get their licenses here in a minute or two,
and I'm not going to be needed as much and that makes me really sad.
Yeah, it makes me sad to know that I got about eight years until they're definitely going to fucking
bounce.
They're out.
Bounce.
They're out.
It's in our DNA, D. It's in our back east DNA.
When you can bounce, these kids are not going to be the, and I'm not casting aspersions,
but there's a disproportionate number of young people who move back into their parents' houses.
And I get the socioeconomics of it. These two-
See you. See you later. Yeah. I know the two I got right now, they... Peace out, pops.
Peace out, pops. I can already tell my daughters like, she's ready to go now. You know what I mean?
It's ridiculous, man. And so so yes, that's the one thing that
scares me is I want to work and I want to work really. I want, I still want to fulfill
the dreams that I've had ever since I was a kid. I still want to pursue this craft to
the fullest, but I don't want to miss out on the stuff that I've experienced in the
last four years.
The things that I've experienced in the last four years have been so amazing.
I feel you.
Watching Rocco play basketball.
I feel you.
Wilder getting into dance.
You know what I mean?
Like there's just so many things, you know, being there for my other children when they
needed me, you know what I mean?
There's so many other things that I got to experience
and I don't want to miss out on future stuff,
but I do want to work.
I want to work more than anything right now.
I'm choosing to believe we'll be in a position
to find some modicum of balance.
Whatever that looks like, I don't know.
But I'm choosing to believe that given
our experienced position, we'll be able to exercise some decision making that we'll be
able to integrate both work and participating as a parent into the equation, don't you?
I hope so. Zach said something that really hit home for me. He was like, you know, I don't,
I haven't given up on life.
This is like a, I'm not, don't quote,
this isn't what he exactly said.
I'm paraphrasing, obviously,
but I don't wanna spend the next few years
being a workaholic, you know what I mean?
I do wanna work, but I don't want to be so stuck in
my job that I'm missing everything that's coming in, that passes in front of me.
Yeah, but that's also going from my place where I feel like I've been, since I was,
you know, graduated college to now, solely focused on work and haven't yet had a chance to have a family. And so I'm on a different sort of
slightly different priority list than you guys because you guys have made beautiful families.
And I don't know, my life's a little backwards that way.
But it's the same conversation, bro. You don't want to miss out on life.
It is the same conversation.
I just hope that I can find someone who is down to make babies with me.
Donald, would you be willing to bear my children?
It'll be an ass baby.
I would love to put an ass baby in you.
For the uninformed, what, I think I know what an ass baby is.
What is an ass baby?
An ass baby is a fantasy creature that can grow in Donald's asshole.
It would grow in my...
I would ejaculate in his rectum and mysteriously our baby would grow even though he does not
have a uterus in there.
Something would happen.
Some magic is involved.
This is my first introduction to the concept of the ass baby. have a uterus in there. Something would happen. Some magic is involved.
This is my first introduction to the concept of the ass baby.
Yeah. That's the first explanation of ass baby.
Wu-Tang forever. Wu-Tang forever.
Yes. That is what you're going to have.
Dialed, if I don't find a wife in the next five years,
I would like to take you up on your offer to have an ass baby.
No, I didn't offer. I didn. No, I didn't offer my ass.
I just warned you that if there were to be a baby born from me.
If you don't want my penis inside you, we could do a,
we could do, what do you call it, IVF?
In vitro?
In vitro, into your butthole with my semen,
with like a turkey baster.
And on that note, I think we should wrap up.
Johnny, we love you.
It's so good to see you.
Check out Johnny's podcast, Connective Tissues.
It's really good.
And Donald, count us out.
Well, count us in and out.
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