Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Tony Hale, Fear is Here to Help You

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

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Oh, shit. Holy shit. I know, I made a bad decision audience right before we came on. You didn't make a bad decision. This was like a freaking, this was, this was, this is involved. This is like, this is bad. This is worse than bad.

It's not. It's not. I don't need to go to the hospital, but I definitely didn't fucking put it in the sunblock. You're going to have the sweats tonight, bro. You're going to be cold in the heat. I'm going to put some aloe vera on my chest. I'm allergic to aloe vera. I can't do that. Oh, no. Why can't you do aloe vera?

Cause I'm allergic to it. That shit breaks me out. Donald, this is Mia who's filling in for Daniel today. Mia, three blacks against one white. We win. Oh my God, what? Why is it, why is it have to be about that, Donald? Well, just so y'all don't, in case you don't know,

this is what sunburn is. Oh yeah, it doesn't, listen, black people get sunburned too. You know this, right? We do, we do. Really? Well, maybe very, I don't know that. We get something that y'all motherfuckers don't get. It's the worst, it's called heat rash.

Oh my gosh. I've seen you get red actually on holiday together. I've seen you get red. But we get heat rash. Oh my gosh. I've seen you get red actually on holiday together. I've seen you get red. But we get heat rash too. I have a question and this is naive, but do black people need to be as conscious about wearing sunblock? Yes, 100% wear sunblock.

Hell yeah man, that should have killed us too. There's now sunblock that works specifically for black skin. Wait, everybody calm down. No, hold on. I'm asking because I don't skin. Wait, everybody calm down. Let's get it. No, hold on. I'm asking you because I don't know. You touched the subject, bro.

Black people out there who feel like, I don't need sunblock, I'm black, my melanin is going to protect me. It'll protect you from burning, but it ain't going to protect you from that cancer. Get you that sunblock on, y'all. For real, man. Don't play around. Really? Joelle, what are your thoughts on this topic?

Skin cancer prevalent in the black community who wear sunscreen. There's also a ton of really great sunscreen that works for black skin. So you don't have that white ghostly cast over your skin. Yeah. Although I feel more protected with that. I feel like that chalk shit protects you more

than that other shit. Like straight up, man. It just makes you look like- It sounds- No, no, that's so white stuff. It sounds, hold on. It sounds horrible. It, man. It sounds, it sounds, it sounds, it sounds horrible. It sounds white. It sounds like, oh, the nigga want to be white now.

But for real, I feel like that chalk shit do protect you a little bit better because the chalk is like the brain. But you don't need to have the white stuff on your face. I don't, I don't use that stuff. I just use regular SPF. Daniel couldn't make it today, audience. Joelle, how have you been? I just use regular SPF. Daniel couldn't make it today, audience.

Joelle, how have you been? I've been, man, great. Really kick it loving this summer. I got to see Megan. I think we talked about it last time, but she was shaking butt and looking great. Now I got tickets to see Usher on Halloween with my mom, which I'm really excited about. So living it up, living it up. You were just on vacation, weren't you, Zach?

I was in Montauk for a while, yeah. And it was so beautiful. I had a good time. I brought a bunch of friends, including Sarah Chalk, who was always fun on vacation. Very serious. Sarah's the best on vacation. She's just so silly.

It's just a lot of fun every time. It's like having a jester. Oh, I don't know about, she's not a fool. Well, I think she's a little of fun every time. It's like having a jester. No, I don't know about it. She's not a fool. Well, I think she's a little bit of a fool. Oh God. Did you come back with any great Sarah stories to share with us? Anything and everything happens to Sarah.

No, nothing that you can't tell somebody's things. No, I won't tell anything private, but I will tell you that like, yeah, there's definitely several times where she got something caught in her throat and we were like, what is, she's like, there's something in my throat. We all started getting nervous and then we're like, there's nothing in your throat. Just swallow, have some water. And like, in fact, like something really weird, like, like, you know how they put like flour,

like flowers as on food, like that you're at are edible? Like a tiny, tiny stem got caught like in a visible part of her throat. And she was like, ah, ah, she's like, I can't get it, ah, just lodged. And someone was like, go get tweezers. And she was like, ah, ah, ah. And so someone went and got tweezers and then people were holding up their iPhones.

And then someone went in and they plucked out the little stem that was like just sitting behind, next to her uvula. So this shit really does happen to her. Every time, every time. Without fail, without fail, everything happens to Sarah. You know, a lot of people believe that some of these stories are made up because, you know, every time you talk to her,

it's, okay, so this is what happened. I was in the restroom and all of a sudden, an alligator came out, a baby alligator came out of the toilet hole. It almost bit me on my cuckoo. I was like, oh my God. The police in Vancouver, the Mounties say it's never happened before.

Alligators in the winter, what? Another thing I realized about Sarah is that she has this bit of a tick that she does where she goes into a whisper mode, even if you're sitting alone in a big house in a living room and no one's there. And you're like, you ask her some question like, oh, whatever happened with that story you told me.

And even if it's not a secret, but if let's say it's mildly serious, she just whispers, she switches to whisper mode. She'd be like, oh, so I didn't tell you what happened with John? And you're like, Sarah, so I didn't tell you what happened with John? And they're like, Sarah, we are in Montauk, in a house, like no one can hear us. And even the people that are here don't know the story,

like there's no need for you to be whispering. But even after I called her out and joked about it, she did it like 10 more times. It's just, even if you like, if it's not silly, silly, she's loud and she's being stupid and she's being like crazy Sarah. The second you're like, oh wait, I think I burned my chest. She goes, Oh, did I ever tell you that my sister once burned her chest so bad? Like why the fuck are you whispering? Wait, have you guys listened to Johnny C's new podcast yet? Johnny C's killing it.

I know, it's crazy. I was like, I was like, nobody talked to us about it. I know, well, Johnny went- He did it on his own, he went hard. We got to- Listen, I got to give a shout out. Joel, remind me, we got to talk to Will about folding Johnny C into the iHeart family because- All right. I want to thank you, Joel, for gotta talk to Will about folding Johnny C. into the iHeart family. Because I wanna thank you, Joelle,

for reminding me to give a shout out. Johnny C. McGinley just kind of went rogue on his own. I meant rogue meaning not affiliated with any companies, I understand. And he knows so many smart, amazing, creative people. I imagine he got inspired by us, I would assume. I have no idea. But he started interviewing some of his friends would assume, I have no idea. But he started

interviewing some of his friends and he's getting these huge guests. He just did a Peter Berg, you know, major filmmaker. He did Eric Boghossian, a wonderful actor, writer. And he's obviously wonderful at it. And they talk about the craft of acting. It's called Connective Tissue. For those of you who want to check it out, I want to give Johnny a shout out. But also also I feel like Joelle we should talk to Will about bringing him into the I Heart family. Cause he's really made something amazing.

It's amazing. I'm obsessed with Eric Boghossian. I've been watching interview with a vampire obsessively lately, Eric plays a reporter on that. He's brilliant. And so that's kind of how I stumbled into the show. And yeah, Johnny sees incredible hosts. I should know he would be. He's such a lovely guest every time he's on our show.

So I'm not too surprised, but it is. He's also Johnny and Donald can speak to this. Johnny is so genuinely interested in people. Like he's not, he's the, you know, these people that are like, how are you doing? Oh, great, great, great. He's the polar opposite. He's like, he won't sit there and interview you. He's so interested.

But he also listens too. Like that's the great thing about him is like you can tell he's listening. His face is, you know, his, you can tell when somebody's not listening to you and when they're trying to get to the next conversation, he is listening. He is, every time it could be a party filled with a bunch of people and you and him and he's, he's locked in on you. Yeah. The whole Christa's birthday party, Christa Miller's birthday party, I didn't see Josh

Raiden the whole party. I still had the best time. Locked in. You and I were dancing, we had the best time. At the end of the party, like the night's ending, I see Josh, I go, where were you? He was like, oh, I was just in the corner talking to Johnny C. He said the best. I'm like, talk to Johnny C. Johnny C. just locked him in and like Johnny C. loves Raiden, but he locked him in and they were like in this intense conversation the whole time

So anyway, check out connective tissue anyone Donald. How are you? You had a big birthday. I did I turn 50 I'm a grown man And all of a sudden shit started going wrong. I got to get my blood pressure down Exercising is a must. Yeah. Well, you knew that. Did a doctor call you out on your blood pressure? Yes, I played golf yesterday. I walked over five miles. Let me tell you something right now, my hands are. Listen, I was killing.

Listen, this is how you know you're out of shape. People will be like, but golf isn't really that fucking much of a athletic sport. Motherfucker, I walked over five miles yesterday. Did you carry the bag, though? And I know I pushed it in a cart and pulled it in a cart, which is heavy. OK, I'm just saying I just thought that that's what golfers say. Oh, man, that shit is not no right.

So the first half, I was killing it. First nine holes. Donald Faison was I had I've been played in two years. My players card said so. Two years was the last time I played. First half of golf, first half of a round, first nine holes, I was doing pretty good. I was on target to be in the seventies. Second half, that shit got long. That course got long and my body could not keep up. I was literally pouting while playing golf like, fuck!

Yeah. We got another hole? Then you got all upset. I didn't get, I kept saying to myself, stay in the game. You can be angry about the conditions and you can be angry about all of this other stuff, but try and stay in the game. And that was still hard to do

because my body started to fail. I couldn't get my hips around fast enough. So now my hands were moving too fast. Were your hips lying? My hips were totally lying, dude. Yes, that happened. My hips still lying. That's the time I'm like, oh, that's not enough.

Totally lying, dude. I'm glad that you are playing golf. I'm glad you're exercising because that's important to me that you stay alive. I went and had a, I had to have a CT scan of my heart today. How are you? My heart's amazing. I gotta tell you, this is when they put,

they put contrast into your veins. When you get to be our age, doctor wants to have a CT scan of your heart. And also my father had stents and stuff. So I needed to just check out whether there's any blockage. I can show you a picture. You want to see a picture? This is amazing.

I asked the doctor if I could take a picture. This is just one of the angles. That's my actual heart. Whoa, that's crazy. Isn't that crazy? Wow, it's surreal. It was really cool. And I just wanted to say one thing

since we are fake doctors, real friends. If you're a smoker, you might need to hear this. I realize I've been doing all these tests just because I'm gonna turn, I'm 49, I'm on the cusp of turning 50, getting every test you can get done. And every single questionnaire, every single doctor, without fail, I always note it,

it all starts with, do you smoke? Do you smoke? And I'm thinking about you smokers, someone out there listening needs to hear this today. There's a reason why every single doctor in every single form starts out with, do you smoke? So stop smoking because that's the first question they all wanna know.

No, you know what? You're right. And with my high blood pressure, that was the first question they asked, you smoke? We eat, okay. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure about, I mean, I always feel very proud and smug to write never smoked.

Because you're a little bitch like that, man. Not once. Because you're a little bitch like that. Okay. Before Charlie gets up in here, before we get up in there. Yeah. Joelle, have you been watching Acolyte? Yeah, it's a little bit.

Do you like it? I like many parts of it. They gave me a sexy to sit so I can't complain. There are a hell of black women. One outstanding performance like of her career is so beautiful. It looks good. Listen, no, it, listen, it looks good. It's, it's what's frustrating about it is I see all of the potential in it and it didn't

quite hit it. And that is frustrating. I hope I get season two we get to do it better because Leslie Hedlund is an incredible writer and show runner. I'm not sure what happened if it was a budget issue or what went sideways, but I'm hoping they can get it back. There's so much wrong, but there's so much good

and there's so much wrong with the show. Indeed. There's so much good, there's so much good, but there's so much wrong. You know what I mean? You watching House of the Dragon? No. Yeah, hell yeah. Hell yeah, Like you watching House of the Dragon? No. Yeah.

Oh hell, even House of the Dragon. Yeah. Joel is watching everything. He's so good. Mia, you watching House of the Dragon? I haven't seen Game of Thrones, so I've gotta get to that first. Oh yeah, Mia puts that on her list.

Okay. Thank you. Mia, what are you watching? What are the kids your age watching? Mia, what are the 25 year olds watching? I haven't been watching any series. I go to the movies a lot. I go to the theater a lot. What's the last movie you saw that you liked? Um, I liked Long Legs.

Long Legs. Oh, hell yeah. That was good. That's horror, right? Yeah, it's horror. I love horror. Yeah, New Nicholas Cage. All right. I would recommend it.

Did you? Okay. All right. Thank you, Mia. All right. Uh, Joelle, House of Dragons. Stunning. All right. Thank you, Mia. All right, uh, Joelle house of dragons Stunning stunning not only is it amazing, but there's this companion behind the scenes series. Are you watching that? Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, all of it all the aspects after each episode. They do a 20-minute thing on how they made it. It's incredible My kids and I are watching stranger things stranger. Oh, that's a lovely watch with the children. That's nice Well, not season four why the scaring them they saw that motherfucker Vikram whatever his name is and he got That shit that was the the fucking Demi Gordon all that stuff. None of that really scared them

But then they saw that motherfucker Vikram. Is that his name Vikram? I think so. Some shit like that. Whatever it is. Yeah, me as not. Woo! That was a wrap. Stranger Things Season 4 took a pause. They were like, okay that's enough. They said we'll be back when we're a little older. They got time. Okay, so look. I feel like there's too much Star Wars. I want to be honest with you. Whoa.

I feel like I love it still. That's what I'm talking about. I kind of feel like there's too much right now. You're just realizing that? Well, I mean, it works for- I don't think it too much is the problem. It works for Marvel. Like Marvel had a lot going on

and now it's way too much Marvel. But we're even seeing that go sideways. It's not about- If I like raspberries. Yeah, go on. And I have raspberry jam and I have raspberries on my cereal, and I have raspberry sunblock,

and I have a raspberry taste in my sparkling water, at a certain point I'm gonna be sick of raspberries. I don't know, man. I don't know, you still like recent peanut butter cups. You know what I mean? You still like, there's certain things that you believe. What the hell does that have to do with anything? You don't, I'm saying that you're saturated.

You as a consumer are oversaturated. I disagree homeboy. I don't think, I think- You just said there's too much Star Wars. Is that not oversaturated? No, but I don't think I'm, I don't think, I don't think I'm oversaturated with Star Wars. Like I don't, I mean, I think there's too much

Star Wars storytelling right now. I don't, it's hard to explain because my life is Star Wars. Look at my background. I see it. I animate Star Wars. I animate Star Wars storytelling right now. I don't, it's hard to explain because my life is Star Wars. Look at my background. I animate Star Wars. So I don't think there's too much Star Wars, but there's too much Star Wars. You know what I mean? Like it's just like, you're talking about Star Wars that is hitting and that's the problem. Like there's not enough Star Wars that is working currently. And that's really the problem. I feel like What they have two shows this year? Maybe we don't even know if we're gonna get the no three potentially three if they decide to release a skeleton crew at the end of the year, I think I

Would love for them to do a pause like they did on the movies with the TV shows and be like what was really making? And or and yeah, that's the first two seasons of the Mandalorian work? You hit on the nail on the head, Joel. I think Andor fucked everything up. I hope it's the- It really did. I know Rogue One is the beginning of it. Rogue One was the beginning of it

because it got a little bit more gritty in Rogue One. And then Andor fucking shot everything down. Andor so, oh no. I'm watching House of Dragons and I know that Star Wars needs to be family friendly, I'm told, but the level of production, the level of filmmaking, design, sets, costumes, script, acting, oh my God.

If Star Wars could be on that level, like I think Andor was, but I mean, you'd have a new fan in me. This gentleman that we are lucky enough to have on the show is someone I've always found hilarious. So I'm very excited to have Tony Hale on the show today. Donald, do you know this little bit of trivia that Jawell gave us in our notes

that I'm sure you didn't read? That he was in a live stage reading of Star Wars, The Phantom Menace, and he played Qui-Gon-Jin. Qui-Gon-Jin. Qui-Gon-Jin. Qui-Gon. Yeah, Qui-Gon-Jin. Well, we will have to discuss that with him.

Yeah, maybe he's a Star Wars head like you if he's doing live readings. I mean, either that or he was trying to get into a Star Wars and was like, maybe if I do it. Yeah, like you. Did you know that he is Chucky's dad on Rugrats? The original? No, the remake from 2021 going forward though,

which is really cool, I think. Yeah. Yeah, I auditioned for that. I didn't get it. So I did not know that. Did you really? I'm gonna have to call my mom and tell my mom it's not gonna happen. You didn auditioned for that. I didn't get it. So I did not know that. I'm going to have to call my mom and tell my mom it's not going to happen. You didn't audition for that. Do you remember that? It's not going to happen, mom.

Oh, my parents, my dad was the worst. He'd be like, whatever happened with that thing? And you have to be like, dad, I auditioned for that like four months ago. I promise you. I promise you. I promise you, and a lot of people out there listening know how your parents can be. Whether, even if you're not an actor, it's your job. They're like, whatever happened to that thing? I'm like, I promise you,

you will be the first person I call when there's good news. They didn't like you? Literally, I will get the good news. I will hang up and call you. Right away. That's what happened with scrubs. I literally called you 10 seconds after I talked to Bill Lawrence.

So every time my dad would be like, oh, oh, and then he would literally go, huh, disappointed. And I'm like, you're disappointed. I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed. Now I have to go because I've got four tables sat and I don't even think I put the apps in on table four. I'm disappointed.

Yeah, dad, I'm disappointed too. I told you what he said when we saw Titanic, right? We went to see Titanic together, I told this story. No. We come out of Titanic and I've gotten like swiped into tears and we're all just so blown away by how incredible the movie was in the theater. And then it's got a long pause and my dad goes,

ha, that Leo, he's about your age, isn't he? Jesus Christ. Oh, oh, oh yeah. Oh. It's like that line from Fleabag and what had Jesus done by 33? Oh man, I was like, yeah dad, yeah, same age. Oh my gosh. I gotta get home and charge the walkies for tomorrow's music video.

Oh my gosh. All right. Let's bring in the legendary Tony Hale. Count us in, Donald. Five, six, seven, eight. Here are some stories about sure we made. About a bunch of dogs and nurses and a calendar who love making acid. Here's a story that you all should know. About a bunch of dogs and nurses And a Canada who love making acid

Here's a story that we all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our spuds Rewatch your Wizac and Dono Yo Tony! Hi Tony! Hi, Tony. I was thrown with a no zoom. I didn't know what was happening. Well, we want to fancy, we have a fancier thing now because we want to have a beautiful 4K image of your face.

And they can edit on this better. They can edit on this better. That's really nice. Guys, I'm a fan of both hosts, not just one. We are a fan of you. Thank you very much. And Tony, that's our producer, Joel, and our engineer, Mia. Hi, guys.

I'm sorry for the delay in my handicap of technology. No, it's fine. We're so happy you're here, man. We are major fans of yours, and we're very geeked to have you on the show. Yes! Yes! Yes! You know, I was sitting thinking about Tony Hale before I came on the show.

I mean, when don't you? I was trying to think of actors who have achieved the very rare feat of going from one hit comedy directly into another hit comedy. Into another, like. Do you know, are you guys in a secret club? Oh, it's so weird you ask. I can't talk about it.

No, I was thinking the other day, because somebody asked me like, Tony, you know, your query made such great choices. And I thought, when I started out, I wasn't in a place to make choices. I was just so grateful for a gig, you know? And then just, you know, by God's grace, then Veep came along and they wanted me,

you know, I was like, just so thankful to be there. So I don't know how it happened just to be on these great shows. So you look at, do you look at Veep as the ultimate success? So I look at it like this, Mel Brooks put out Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles back to back, right? That's a feat that, when it comes to comedy, I'm sorry, I don't know who...

There are very few actors out there that can go from a show like Arrested Development to Veep. That's like unheard of. I was trying to think of anybody else who's done it. I gave myself Kelsey Grammer, but it's a little bit cheating going from Cheers to Frasier. It's a little bit cheating.

It's a spinoff. It's a spinoff. It's a spinoff. Then I want to shout out Neil Flynn, who did go from Scrubs to the middle. But Tony, I just think that Arrested to Veep is pretty major. I mean, they were both pivotal beloved megacompanies. Yeah, I am, I'm just so grateful.

I mean, keep in mind, like there was about five or six years between them where there were times when I was like, I was like, are we gonna have to sell our house? So it's, you know, they didn't happen right after. But I don't know, man, I'm just so grateful because, you know, I mean, we've all done gigs that we're not necessarily huge fans of the writing, you know, or you do something and you're,

obviously we're always grateful for work, but sometimes you're doing something and you're like, oh, I wouldn't do it this way, but I'm just, you know, keep thankful for the job. To be a part of something and you're like, oh, I wouldn't do it this way, but I'm just, you know, keep thankful for the job. To be a part of something that I found funny, you know, like into, and you guys know, like, what's so great for a comic actor is the element of surprise where it's like you're reading it and all of a sudden,

a rest of developments, like, you know, by the way, a seal's gonna eat your hand, you know, and you're like, sorry? That was not in the framework at all. I love that show so much, dude. I can't tell you. You were on it. I was on it. I was so honored.

And you were on the gag reel, which I've watched over and over and over. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, but I would love to see it. Oh dude, I'll send it to you if I can get your personal information. I just want to get your personal information. It's four to four.

No. God, this is public. But I gotta tell you, I was so to get your personal information. It's four to four. No, thank God, this is public. But I got to tell you, I was so honored to be on the show and I just wanted to be a part of that universe because I was so crazy. But tell us a little about getting it because I think our audience likes to hear these stories. Donald and I have shared our stories on the scrubs,

but did you feel that it just fit you like a glove because for me, I auditioned for so many things and didn't get anywhere. Did you feel that it just fit you like a glove? Because for me, I auditioned for so many things and didn't get anywhere. And then when I read Scrubs, I was like, oh, I genuinely find this hilarious. I bet I'm gonna be able to do a much better audition. Was that a similar thing for you? Wait, hold up, but before you can,

and also speak on, if you will, it's a double question. Please. Speak on the four years in between and like what that's like. Cause when I started off, I got clueless and I will, it's a double question. Speak on the four years in between and what that's like. Because when I started off, I got clueless and I thought, that's it, I'm off and we're fired, here we go. And it took years until Scrubs came along again.

Totally. So getting it, well I had been, I don't know if you guys have lived in New York, I was in New York for about six or seven years doing commercials. And I mean, before that I was doing every job under the sun just to make ends meet. But then when commercials came around,

I was kind of typecast as the guy who's not all there. And I just started getting these commercials of like just the guy wide-eyed and like, what? You know, just that kind of guy. And having a great time, I met my wife in New York, just so thankful to be working. And then a commercial casting director, well, let me say this.

It took me like six years to find a manager and an agent to send me out for a TV and film, because they just saw me as a commercial actor. And so finally when I got someone to kind of see me beyond that, then Marcia DeBonis, who was cast commercials, she was casting Arrested Development. And since I was kind of in this maybe type,

she was like, huh, Buster's not all there. Let me just bring in Tony. And, you know, I went in and I just remember at the time, Christopher Guest movies were really like waiting for Gufman to just come out and just like really kind of out of the box. Yeah. And I remember reading this and thinking, God, this is so different. Because typically, before this with comedy, people weren't really thinking about it. Like on a drama, you really take the time to like, okay, so what does that mean? And who's this person?

And you really happen to think. With comedy, people just kind of liked it washing over you. You didn't really want to take the time. It wasn't really dense material. Whereas Arrested, it was so dense. There were so many jokes. There were so many callbacks. Like Tobias joined the Blue Man Group

because he thought I was a support group for depressed men. And it was like all these levels. And I had massive motherish. I mean, all this kind of stuff. And so I was like, god, this is so intense. I'm surprised even this gets made. And so finally I got cast, which completely blew my mind. I remember when I got cast, we immediately shot the pilot when I was out there.

And I remember my only memory is I had to run to Old Navy because I ran out of underwear because I hadn't packed enough underwear like to like finish shooting the show. And so I did that and then came back and I was like, I get that was a great experience. And then 10 days before I got married, the show got picked up and I was like, honey, I think we're moving to LA. And I just kinda, and it was, you know, it's one of those things and I talk about this a lot and I apologize if people have heard it,

but I was so overwhelmed. I had never been on a studio a lot. I had never had that much, you know, I don't know, just, I didn't know what a manager was. I didn't know, I was just so overwhelmed. And I remember having this moment of, Oh man, I thought I would feel differently, you know, cause I had given so much power to, I just wanted a sitcom. I just wanted a sitcom. And those first two years were like a real awakening of, huh, this, uh, I've given this a lot of weight and nothing can match the weight I've given it.

And so it was a kind of like a two years of feeling kind of what now? And then after that, you know, I kind of got into therapy and I realized I haven't been present for most of my life. You know, I, it's that whole thing if, and I've said this but like, if you're not practicing contentment where you are, you're not gonna be content when you get what you want. And I got what I want,

and I just had not been practicing being present most of my life. I love that so much. And I fell a similar, I feel a similar thing, and I think I related, I think I continue to relate in my own life now, where I, where, no matter where you are, sorry, I only should speak for myself, no matter where I am, I find myself going,

what's next, what's next, what's next. Of course, of course. And I really, like you just said, I aspire so much to focus on being a product. Same, and it's not even thinking that you're kind of, as in this business, and we're all grateful to be in it, but you get that, ask that question, like what's next for you, what's next for you?

And we're kind of trained to think like that. And to your question, Donald, like when it was over, I was like, shit, what, what is next? And when nothing came, it was a big lesson. And this is, I love to talk to kind of acting students, you know, and they always ask about, you know, how did you do it and stuff? And I always love to say first, hey, if you're getting into this business,

there is so much rejection. Invest in your community before you invest in your career because it's the community that's gonna give you longevity because this business sees you one way and your friends and your community will see you beyond how they see you. And that is what really those five or six years

and to this day, I mean, we're gig to gig. It is my family, my friends who see me beyond that that really keep me on it. I mean, that's a hundred percent true. I love that. I think that all the time. I mean, it's funny what you were saying about why did you take, when reporters ask you,

why did you take this route with this role? And they're like, I love that girl, that girl, a young woman, Rachel Zegler. She route or this role? And they're like, they, I love that girl, that girl, a young woman, Rachel Zegler. She was on some press line and they were like, why did you do this? Why did you, why this movie, Rachel? And she was like, I needed a job. Yeah, exactly.

I always feel that way as an actor. You know, unless it's some little indie you did, I'm always like, because they wanted to hire me. Even if it's an indie, dude, even if it's an indie. Yes, exactly. Even if it's an indie, you're like, why did you take it? Well, first of all, they said, we want you. And I was like, well, I've won already. Me?

I've won already. Totally, totally. And I love, I love that you guys have stayed so close because you've just, I think the power again of the community of it. It's beyond the work, it's the relationships and I'm really close and I see the arrested guys every now and then, but are really close

with the Veep community, like Veep family. And man, that's the stuff that has carried on. I mean, the show is so fun, but just laughing about memories and like, I don't know, that's just everything. Some of the best and beyond the Scrubs cast that I'm still, we're all still close. I did a play, I did a Broadway show and I met some of the best friends in my life doing that show. It's long outlasted the six month run we had.

And what was that? Can I ask what was, I did a play about three years ago and it really was, I'm so glad I did it because it got me past a lot of fears of getting back on stage. I want to talk to you about that because I read a little something you had said because my brilliant producer, Joelle, gave us some homework on you.

I wanted to talk to you about that because I have stage fright too and I think a lot of people will be surprised to hear like, oh, you seem like someone who wouldn't. And I was reading that you dealt with it too. The only person that doesn't have stage fright is Hugh Jackman. He's the only one that's like, I'm gone. The stage, here I come.

He's the only one. You know why? I'll keep it 100 with you. There's so many actors that don't do theater, really good actors. You know why? Because they're scared. This is the honest to goodness truth, dude.

I'm very scared and my fear is mainly going up on the lines and not knowing where the hell I am. I did a production of, I never said this to anybody, I don't think, but I did a production of Romeo and Juliet in regional theater in Connecticut when I was out of Northwestern. And I would go early and our dressing room, it was an outdoor production

in front of like 2,500 people in the summer. And if you know the Romeo and Juliet, Romeo starts talking and doesn't really stop that much for three hours. And I would go early and sit in this church in the pews and recite every single one of my lines for the show. Because I was so nervous. The concept, the idea that I would forget the poetry

of three hours of poetry, and there was the only thing I could think to do that would soothe it would be to get there early and run the whole play before you show. Yeah. But so speak to your version of that. My version of that is that I would have a panic attack on stage.

My version of it was that I would, this play I did at American Conservatory Theater was pretty much a one man play and then an actor comes in toward like 75% into it. And I thought, oh, every night I was like, this is the night I'm gonna have a panic attack on stage. Because I had a panic attack when high school and it's amazing how things get really locked in.

And I had one in high school and ever since then it just had become this, you know, almost dark terror. And I remember going to this therapist and doing, I'd started doing cognitive behavioral therapy where you kind of, rather than being such a victim to your thoughts and your feelings, you're a little more of an observe, an observer to your thoughts and your feelings. And I remember every night he would say, Hey, when you kind of hear those thoughts or those voices or you have those feelings, turn to that fear.

I remember Bill Hader said something about this recently, kind of like this too, but turn to that fear and say, Hey, I appreciate you being here. I know you're trying to help. I'm going to go to the play and I'll be, and I'll be back. And it was the first time, because before what I would do is like, Tony, just buck up, almost just try to block it out. You got this and psych yourself up. And for me, I'm not saying for anybody else, for me, it only made it bigger.

It only made that anxiety and fear bigger. And the minute I started kind of embracing it and not trying to cut it off, it just, it's not like it wasn't there, but I was more of like, I mean, this kind of relates to the, I just did inside out too. And it's like a little more like, Hey, this emotion is trying, it's actually trying to help you. You know, it's thinking it's helping you and just kind of have a little more compassion towards it. And it, every night it dissipated it.

I still had those feelings when I was right before, but I was like, hey, man, I really appreciate it. I know you're trying to help. I'm gonna go do it and I'll be back. We can have this conversation after. Yeah, sure. We can have this conversation after. Yeah, sure. We can have this conversation. We can go through this after,

but right now I need to go and handle this business real quick. Yes. Stay here. Exactly. Stay right here. I'll be back. Exactly. And also a part of it is excitement, I think. It's an adrenaline rush, right? Totally.

So part of that adrenaline is I'm so excited to go out there and kick ass. And it is a tight wire act because they might not laugh at one of the jokes and I need to just pick up and keep going. There might be, I remember doing bullets over Broadway, there was someone literally asleep

in the front row one night. Like you just don't know what you're going to see. I never told you this story. I sent out red bullets at intermission to the person. Shut up. Wow. Wow, you got involved. You got involved.

I love that. Wow, listen, it was so distracting. I think, I assume it was a tourist. I made this up, so I don't know. But the story I made in my head was that it was a tourist who had just flown in and was jet lagged. None of that, I don't have any confirmation of that. But he or she, I forgot, was asleep,

passed asleep in the front row. And an intermission, which is very hard because when you're an actor on stage, those of you who aren't stage actors, depending on the lighting, but for the most part, I could say in doing Broadway, I could only see the first five or so rows, everything else is in darkness.

So it's very distracting because it was front and center, front row. So I said to one of the stage managers, I said, will you give this Red Bull to that person and just say like, hey, this is from Zach and it's a little distracting having you sleep in the front row. So I get out there for act two

and it was like weekend at Bernie's. They had taken, you know, these cushions they have for like kids, like a booster seat. And they had wedged them behind and beside the person. And they were sort of propped upward. Shush! What? What?

What? I'm tired. And they were holding the Red Bull, but still neck, foot neck down fast asleep. Wow. It's also like you kind of want to give them a gift card to the restaurant next door. Just be like, hey man, go enjoy yourself over there.

Or just like go lie down. You're very tired. I got two stories for you. Go ahead. One, I was in the audience. One, I was on stage. One, I fell asleep when I was very young in front of Jason Robards.

And at the end of the play, he blew a kiss to me like, you motherfucker. Mwah. Good night. Or at least that's how I looked at it. Because. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To this day, you don't know. It might've been his relative right behind you.

Right, that might've been his thing. But he blew a kiss to the audience. But it looked like he was looking at me when he blew that shit, right behind you. Right. That might have been his thing, but he blew a kiss to the audience. But it looked like he was looking at me when he blew that shit. Right. Yeah. One night I was I feel like I was the cause for why the show didn't go well. I was doing Picasso at the Le Pen, Agile at the Old Globe Theater. And it's me and Justin Long, Lisa LaPera, who you just worked with on Inside Out too.

Yeah. A bunch of people, right? So anyway, I start the show off with the joke, there's something in the air tonight. And I sneeze, right? Yeah. That starts the show off. Every night it gets a laugh.

This night something got caught in my throat, but I had to get the sneeze out and a lot of mucus So much so that the person in the front row the people in the front row went ill like it was that bad God went, ew. Like, it was that bad. Ew. Oh, God. Now, look, I've fallen on stage, I've hurt myself and kept going. And people be like, oh, wow, he hurt himself. This was the first time where I could tell I'm not, everybody's out. Everybody, I have just ruined the fucking show. Justin comes on stage. He's the first person, second person on stage. We have a conversation. His joke, his first joke, nobody laughs. His second joke, nobody laughs. My next joke, nobody laughs. We look at each other and we kind of smirk like, oh shit, this is going to be a long night. But it was also one of those motherfuckers like,

who's gonna go big enough to try and get, are you gonna go big enough to get this lacer? Or are you gonna fucking try and hold it back? It was one of the, but it started because of a tickle in the throat that I tried to surpass and keep going. Oh man, it was one of the worst nights. It was fun, but it was one of the worst nights. But then it becomes a game.

Then it's like, now we're on of the worst nights. But then it becomes a game. But it's like now we're like, now, now let's play. Let's yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have a when you guys were talking, it's I always think like it's all for me. It's all based in the terror of shame and embarrassment. You know, it's like, you know, if you forget your lines, if you spit, you know, the mucus, if I have a pan, it's like, what is that going to be, if I have a pan, it's like, what is that gonna be like when I'm that exposed, when I'm that terrified?

And it's like, ever since I was a kid, that's the base of it. You know, I once hosted SNL, and it was like my dream come true, and everyone was like, were you so nervous? And I said, of course, but I have to say, my biggest fear in performing is that I'm gonna forget my lines.

Whereas when I hosted SNL, my lines are everywhere. That, you know, there's so many, there's four sets of cue card people. So I was of course nervous it was live TV, but my biggest performing fear that I'm gonna somehow, and the second you forget a line for a second, one's adrenaline can then surge and start talking to you. And you're like, you're not gonna remember anything.

Were you calmer? Were you calmer with those lines in front of you? Obviously it was balanced out by the insanity of like, oh my God, I'm doing this like life journey and it's live and it's SNL and all that. But I remember feeling like way less nervous that the lines were everywhere. I mean, I feel like I could do any play any nervous that the lines were everywhere. I mean, I feel like I could do any play any day

if the lines were everywhere, you know? These older folks now have, some older actors now use an ear wig, which is a tiny little earpiece that goes in your ear. So they have the comfort of knowing like, if you forget the line, someone's gonna whisper it to you. I don't know. That would be kind of destabilizing for me. There are people that can actually do that.

I've worked with somebody who does it. Wow. And they can do it. Well, no, film acting is different than theater, bro. You can continue to talk and they can continue to say their lines and they're just regurgitating what they hear. Live?

Like, like, like. Live, yeah. Wow, that's crazy. Pretty impressive. It's like, that, like, or? Like, live, yeah. Wow. That's crazy. Pretty impressive. It's like, that's a skill in itself. Yeah, it is. Fuck the fact that you can't remember the lines. The fact that you could hear this motherfucker talking to you over your, over your voice right now is impressive.

But also don't you, oh sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead, Tony. No, you go ahead, Tony. Tony, you're the guest. No, please. Also, does it remind you of every, everybody in the AD department when they're talking to you on set? They always get those earpieces

and they're kind of talking to you and then all of a sudden they just kind of just. Go blank face. Talk to somebody else. And you're like. Some of them have at least the courtesy to put their hand up like, oh, look. Yeah, yeah, not most of them.

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Yeah, Tony, wasn't that awesome? Audience, I wish we could go through all the things we talked about on break, but we don't have time. Mm-mm. Tony, I heard a rumor, and tell me if this is true, that you guys would actually really rehearse or improvise and the scripts would be written from that, which is nothing I've ever heard of before and sounds amazing.

What is that? Yeah, it's not, I mean, they, I mean, I came more from a sketch background. I didn't come from an improv background. And when you're working with someone like Matt Walsh, who was one of the founders of Upright Citizens Brigade, I was a little intimidated because I was like, oh crap, is this like a totally improv show?

And it wasn't. It was Armando Iannucci who created the show and all of his writers. And then David Mandel took over. They really gave us like a script. And then we would just kind of put it on its feet just to kind of see if it gelled. And that to me, what that afforded was,

oh, we got words, we got a base. And then if anything else comes out, if any kind of funny bits comes out, any kind of funny physicality, like Julia and I, I was obviously her kind of bag man. And we would always be like, okay, we got the words now let's play and see if like, okay, if you drop your coat here, I'll try to snag it here. You know, then we kind of fun out, come up with a lot of fun physicality

during those rehearsals. But was that rehearsing before shooting? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like they, we would, when Armando was in charge, we would rehearse sometimes like a week and we would rehearse like three or four scripts and then That's so amazing. I love that. I think that but because I hate the fact when you go home, I hate

going home feeling like I should have done it this way. I left this on the table and every actor feels that way no matter what, no matter how long the day is. At some point in the take, you're like, all right, I gotta get through this shit, man. Fuck. You know what I mean? Especially if you- And then you got that, sorry, you got that- I just wanna clarify for the audience, just in case everyone knows,

for the most part, when we do serial television like this, we get the scripts, we rehearse the scene in the morning, or let's just say it's the morning scene, and then we block it out, we figure out what the jokes are, where everyone's gonna be, and then we go and film it. In this rare case, they were actually rehearsing as you would in a play. Three weeks, for three weeks.

Yeah, like, yeah, sometimes like, it was probably one or two weeks, like, but a lot of scripts, and then, but to your point, Donald, the worst is, cause that is incredibly rare, and I was very fortunate to go through that. I never heard of anyone doing that. I know.

And typically, to your point, Donald, when I would say something and you're like, oh, I know there's something else. I know I could do more. And then they're like, all right, let's turn around. Meaning, let's go to the other angle away from me. And I'm like, ah, I don't think I did it. I don't think I can do it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? On television, you get like, literally're if if the show's moving well, you'll get three takes, four takes. Yeah. And then they're moving on. Yeah. You it's pretty ballsy for them to say, OK, we're going to move on. It's pretty ballsy for an actor to be like, can I get another one? And then you feel like a douche.

Right. And then they give it to you. And then afterwards, you're like, can I get one more? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, all right, hold on now. Right, we're out of chances, you gotta move on. Unless you gotta get the fucking book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

Or you get that look after you do it when you ask for one more and they're like, I didn't see anything different. Right. It's just this face of like, what did you want to do that for? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do different? Right?

He must have laughed so hard. I mean, I just thought that show was so fun. I didn't want it to end. I just thought it was, and now more than ever, I think so much of it feels like it's real life. I think that's why, a part of why we did stop, because it started to, Julia says, when you kind of think you're doing a bit of a documentary,

you know, you're like, this, the parallel that was happening in politics was a little, it was its own sitcom. Sometimes it was happening on the news. And also I think that's universal to both parties, it seems to me, is that I never really see anything about the vice president. Like they get in office and then I don't really know what,

and in either party, what they're doing. And so- The two most famous vice presidents are Bush and Biden. And that's because they became president after they were vice president. No, but I'm just saying, if you just use Kamala and Pence, just as an example, okay, so I can say that I think it's universal.

Like, I don't know what either of them have really done. It seems like they have a really interesting story to tell. And that's what I appreciated about the comedy of it all. You know what, that makes me think of Gary would always stand behind Julia and he wasn't allowed to talk. Like Julia, Selena never really wanted Gary to talk to the point where I was called a bitchy mime

because I just, all I had was my nonverbal. And I kind of think the vice presidents kind of like that. Like they just kind of stand back and just give some nonverbal every now and then. Yeah, just nod. Can we go back to what you said? When you said you guys would improvise, you guys would improvise physicality.

Yeah. That's a different form of improvisation right there. So would this turn into stunts? Would this turn into pratfalls? Like any of your stunts? Yeah, I mean, a good pratfall. I love a good pratfall. It was, I think, because Gary really couldn't speak,

physicality was his language. That was kind of like the face. And Selena, as the president and the vice president, couldn't really be honest with her speeches. But my character had this like, my nonverbal could be her honesty. So if she was talking to someone who was kind of an ass and she was all nice, I was just in the back like,

oh God, what a douche. And so that was really fun. But also I remember there was one scene where we were at a museum and she wasn't present anymore and they had like roped off the president desk and she just wanted a taste of like what it felt again to be at the president's desk. So she went over the rope and sat there and then people came in and that's when we were like, okay, now we can have some fun.

So I tried to get her over the railing and then I caught her right before her face hit the floor. I mean that kind of fun like stuff to make, you know. How many cameras did you guys have? Was it single? We had, it was single, yeah. Okay, so on Arrested, you guys had like five cameras, but it's still a single camera. Not five. They had so many, but it's still considered single. How many? Yeah. Wait, hold on, you're confusing our audience. I'm not, because you know what I mean. You guys know what I mean. You can

break it. I know, but can I explain, layman's terms, let me explain for the audience, just cause this can get confusing. Traditionally, it used to be multi-cam meant the old school live in front of an audience with a laugh track, like Friends, for example. And then when the new shows started coming along, like Scrubs and like The Office and like Arrested, they started calling them single camera,

meaning we were shooting them like a movie on sets, there was no audience. And then for time and budget, people started adding more cameras being like, let's get more coverage at the same time. So we would shoot two cameras for the most part on Scrubs. That's when everything went digital. We still shoot two or three on shrinking these days. And I remember Arrested was at least, when I was there, was at least two handheld, right? Because it was supposed to be a documentary, so that was all handheld style, right?

Yeah, yeah, because they kind of pitched it like documentary style. We had some, I think sometimes when they had three cameras, we were like, ooh, this is a special day. And nowadays, three camera for a single camera show, which I know that's confusing, that's kind of typical, I feel. Nowadays, three camera for a single camera show, which I know that's confusing. That's kind of typical, I feel. That's a normal matter, yeah.

That's what we're doing on Shrinking, and it's pretty great. It's pretty, I like it. Well, you can get so much, but yeah, that's what I was asking. If you do a pratfall like that, the chances of getting that comedy right over and over and over again.

Yes, good call. And it's even with improv, because not just physicality, but it's like with improv, when people are coming up with stuff on the fly, you want those two cameras on either sides to catch those reactions. That's a big thing now more than ever. That's another thing audiences called cross-covering,

we never used to do back in the day, but the cinematographers finding ways to shoot both directions at the same time. So if an actor is improving left and right, the other person can be improving back and you're not having to go back and go, okay, what were the funny things that you said? Cause I now want to respond to them.

And the challenge with that is it's really hard not to break. Because when people are coming up with stuff on the fly, and you're like, you need a supernatural power to not laugh. And when Julia Louis-Dreyfus is next to you and she's come up with stuff, she told me once, and I've said this many times, but she told me this once, like, Tony, you know you're not watching the show,

you're in the show. Because I just could not, I could not keep it together. There was one scene where she had to, her character told me like she wanted me to break up with her boyfriend for her. And we were face to face, so close I was kissing. And I was like, this is a supernatural strength to keep it together. My body was shaking and I had to make, I mean, it's like, this is a supernatural strength to keep it together.

My body was shaking and I had to make, I mean, it's like, forget about it. I mean, we do that on Scrubs too. Dylan and I would crack each other up. And we couldn't, we'd have to, I remember trying to do- It was on film too. I would try and remember like, I would bite my cheek. I would bite, I would pinch,

I had places where I pinched myself. And then you get the giggle. I think about sad stories. Like, I would think about, like, someone dying. I would think that everyone's pissed at me. I was like, everyone's, no one thinks this is funny. Everybody wants to go home. Stop giggling.

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how big the life I was given and live is. I think he was like, oh yeah, things come and go. But with me, it never came and went." Is she Donna Martin or a down and out divorcee? Is she living in Beverly Hills or a trailer park? In a town where the lines are blurred, Tori is finally going to clear the air in the podcast Misspelling. When a woman has nothing to lose, she has everything to gain. I just filed for divorce. Whoa. I said the words that I've said in my head for like 16 years. Wild.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Cheaters and Backstabbers. I'm Shadi Diaz. And I'm Kate Robards. podcasts. stories. Join us as we learn how to avoid getting our hearts broken or our backs slashed. Listen to Cheaters and Backstabbers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Angie Martinez. Check out my podcast where I talk to some of the biggest athletes, musicians, actors in the world. We go beyond the headlines and the soundbites that have real conversations about real life, death, love and everything in between. This life right here, just finding myself, just relaxation, just not feeling stressed,

just not feeling pressed. This is what I'm most proud of. I'm proud of Mary because I've been through hell and some horrible things. That feeling that I had of inadequacy is gone. You're going to die being you. So you got to constantly work on who you are to make sure that the stars align correctly. Life ain't easy and it's getting harder and harder. So if you have a story to tell, if you've come through some trials, you need to share it because you're going to inspire

someone. You're going to, you're going to give somebody the motivation to not give up, to not quit. Listen to Angie Martinez, IRL on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Let's talk about your new show because I watched the pilot and it was really, really good. Did you? Oh, that's nice. your new show because I watched the pilot and it was really, really good. Did you? Oh, that's nice.

Thank you. I watched it too and I don't watch shit, but I watched the pilot and I am going to continue to watch. It's really clever. How do you say it? The Decameron? The Decameron. The Decameron.

The Decameron. Yeah. The Decameron. You know, we shot in Italy for six months in Rome. Yeah, we're in Italy. It's so pretty. Yeah, we are. It's first of all, okay. Rome, beautiful're in Italy and it's so pretty. It's beautiful. So these are all practical sets then?

No, there's definitely a big ass set. Right? The big ass set was in the villa, which you guys saw. It was at Cinecittà. These are, by the way, these names, these Italian names I say, I completely effed up the first three weeks of being there. And then after time I got used to it. But Cinecittà is where we shot. And then after time, I got used to it. But Chennai Chitaz where we shot,

and then when we did exteriors at like the castle, we would go to these gorgeous places and do that stuff. It's so beautiful. I was so envious looking at all these exterior locations. I never, other than when Dalton, I went to the Bahamas for scrubs. I don't think I've ever worked in some place as- It was beautiful. And the Italians are very, I mean, their artistry is great. They're honest

people. They're honest people. I had this costume I wore had this belt and it's... Well, for those who don't know, it takes place during the Bubonic Plague. During 1348, it's its own. I think the great is a good reference point. Yes. If people know the show, The Great, it's sort of a highly stylized period comedy. Very stylized. With very modern elements and modern music,

but set in what, 14 something? Yeah, 14th century, 1348. And it's kind of the writer Kathleen Jordan wrote it during the pandemic as a way of kind of processing the uncertainty and fear that we were all experiencing. And it's kind of like a, I play the kind of, and if you think of Downton Abbey, I kind of played like the Carson, like the kind of the head of the downstairs.

Right. I would say very dark. And you have a glorious wig. Glorious. Oh my, just gorgeous. I mean, my hair, I, and the Italians, I'm not kidding. They would always say Tony, your hair, that, hey, I'm not kidding, they would always say, Tony, your hair, that wig looks so beautiful, so beautiful. And after a while I was like, hard not to be insulted, cause I'm like, this is not, my hair does not look this good

and I have to take this off. They're giving you credit like it's your hair. And I said, guys, I can't glue this on my head every day and this one Italian goes, ah, maybe you should. Yeah? Yeah. And I was like, okay, let's settle down, man. And then there was another guy, I had my costume,

and I said, hey, can you make this belt a little tighter? And he goes, no, you have an odd shape. What? And I was like, sorry. And he goes, why, you do. You do. Oh my God. One thing I loved about the show is that,

other than you and Sasha? Sasha Mamet, good. Sasha Mamet, sorry. I would never said her name out loud, but she's very funny. But other than you two, I hadn't seen any of these people before. And I love shows that introduced me to all these new funny actors. There was a lot of talent. Sir Szymonika Jackson, who was on that show Dairy Girls, which I started watching when

I got this this so funny. I mean just a lot of Tanya Reynolds who was, I did not watch it, but the show Sex Education and just a lot of UK actors and really funny. Who's the woman who plays the main, the woman who steals the identity of her? Yeah, Tanya Reynolds. She's the one that was on site. Very, very good, very good. And it's just, it was so fun. And I also, I will say, it wasn't just, the script is so good and the show's really, and it has an arc. I was talking to somebody about this recently.

I don't know if you guys, I don't think you guys did because you guys did, but my other characters like Buster or Gary, they kind of get stuck in a kind of an emasculated role. And that's kind of the funny, like they never really grow. It was really nice on the show to have a full arc. Like it's a limited series. You really see, you know, he has an awareness and he makes mistakes and then he kind of retreats

and comes back and that was nice. Well, the pilot, I only saw the pilot, but man, it sets up so much mayhem. I thought that was, it's a really good pilot because you go, you, you just, I mean, it's a testament to the writing because not only does it set up so many characters, but so many different subplots and stories.

Lots, yes. And I was about to say, it takes its time to bring it all together and just the pilot alone, you know? Yeah, she, yeah, that's something she was talking about recently that she was inspired kind of by Amadeus and like the favorite. And there was a sense of kind of sitting in the tension

a lot like, and also there, we all use our dialect. It's not the same dialect, because she said similar to Amadeus and she kind of liked it. Well, Denzel, people have been joking about the new, Gladiator. The new Gladiatorator trailer because Denzel's just like, I'm just going to be Denzel. That's amazing.

Really? I'm surprised he's like, not my man in the trailer. You put that air again, we might get a man, my man. I love it. Listen, nobody cares by the way. Everyone just like Denzel. No one cares. Just be Denzel.

He got a bow and arrow at some point. I'm like, this motherfucker gonna kick ass too? Is there a trailer? Did you say there's a trailer? Oh yeah. See now this is what it got me. I was under the impression that it's the Mandalorian dude that's the star of the movie.

Pedro Pascal, yeah. It's not him, it's his lookalike brother. Dude, like, the dude that they got to play, here, it looks like him! No, this guy's very famous, Donald. What's his name, Joel? Oh, uh. Paul, Paul something.

Paul Mascall. Paul Mascall. He even got the same name! Pedro Pascal, Paul Mascall. Wait, is it Paul Mascall is that right Paul Mascall is the lead yeah I'm just saying man it kind of sound the same potato potato Pascal they're both incredible is Pedro Pascal even in the movie yes yes he is in the movie right oh yeah I to honest, I just saw the memes. I have yet to see the trailer, but I saw all the Denzel memes. They fight a rhino.

They fight a rhino. In the trailer. I think that they came, I think they were there or came right after we finished a camera and at the stages that we were shooting. Oh, really? Yo, there's a scene where it's bugs. So I was like, does anybody need a quirky sidekick?

Does anybody need? Get me in that motherfucker, right? I'm here. There's a rewrite. Den does anybody need a quirky sidekick? Does anybody need? Get me in that motherfucker, right? I'm here. There's a rewrite. Denzel now has a quirky, innovative head. Hey, Denzel. I got to kiss you. You look dirty.

You need a rag? I'm just saying, man, there's a scene where they fill the Coliseum up with water and have a boat fight in the Coliseum. I don't know who I was talking to. Which I'm told was a real thing. Yeah, it was me and you. That's what we were having this conversation with somebody. They used to do that. Yeah. Oh my. Yeah. That's one thing I did do a lot is go to the Coliseum. And it was fascinating. What do you do there? Just walking around. I just walked around and then you kind of go downstairs

where they brought the animals up and then, yeah, and the fighters and just, it was so atrocious. It's so atrocious, but there was also something really, I don't know, existential about it. Like at the time it was the just pinnacle of wealth. And then you just now everything's been stripped away. And it's like, man, just that's what happens with that equation is just that atrocious.

And it happened like that too. It wasn't like the fall of Rome was like that. I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the Colosseum just a museum thing you visit or can they still throw shows there? No, it's not a stupid question. It's right now, it's a museum. That's good, because people would probably fuck it up.

They'd get all drunk and piss on it. Yeah, just piss on it. No, you can't trust humans with many nice things. What are you gonna do tonight? I'm gonna go pee on the couch. No, you're hammering, you're at the concert, and you're like, I gotta pee, oh, the toilet's so far, just pee here, bro.

All right, I'll pee here. This sounds like a personal experience for you, Zach. You wanna get into it? I'm just saying I wanna protect nice things and human beings can't have nice things. Cut to tomorrow's story, Zach Brava, Taylor Swift, and just peeing on the. No.

I went and Donald was my date to Taylor Swift, and I used the appropriate... Really? I used the toilet I did. Yeah. Can we talk about, just for two seconds... Anything you want, you're the guest, Tony. The...

Oh, thank you for reminding me. The movement, my daughter's a Swifty, and the coding of it all is fascinating to me. Like, she, I guess she went to some, her premiere and she was wearing a blue dress that had kind of cuts in the dress. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. It looks like, and my daughter goes, oh, no, no, no, no.

She was wearing this nail polish in this concert and it was light blue and there was lines in it. And it was relating to this album. And I'm like, this is like an escape room. Yeah. She sincerely drops Easter eggs with everything she does, man. She tries to make the show lost

Yeah, there's so many clues. Yeah, and you have to be a fan. You have to be a real die-hard fan to understand it Yeah, you know that I Did Beyonce do that too? Like I feel like yeah She does kind of do that. Well is furiously nodding audience Yeah, she does. I did, when I did that commercial. Oh yeah, you were in a commercial with her. I was.

By the way, we had that in common. Me and the Bee. We both are, all four of us. Super Bowl. Not only in Super Bowl commercials. You shill for another brand that shall not be mentioned. Yeah. But, um.

That's right. We have to ask. Ha ha ha. And if you try and mention it. You're gonna become the enemy. if you try and mention it, we'll bleep it out. We're gonna bleep that shit out. Yeah. We are a T-Mobile podcast. But wait, Tony, we're burying the lead.

What was it like working with Beyoncé? Bey. So I got, first of all, they called and said, hey, are you interested in doing a Super Bowl ad? Which by the way, anytime they say, are you interested? It's like, why are you, why do you just book me and then just say, show up? Hey, Tony, it's Beyonce and a giant check. What are you doing?

Are you busy? Oh, it's so funny. I'm having coffee with a friend, can't. So they said that, and then they said it's with a music artist. And I was like, oh, that's cool. And then they said it's with a music artist and I was like oh that's cool and then they said Beyonce and I was like sorry and and my daughter had just been to her concert and I you know I don't get a lot of cool dad points you know it's she doesn't really anything I do she's she's

I mean first of all Buster Bluth like what she could be like my dad's Buster Bluth. Are you kidding me? Oh, shoot. So cool. No, she is very proud. But she doesn't watch a lot of this stuff, but I couldn't tell her that I had done this because we signed an NDA. Right.

And it wasn't until it aired that she was able to see it. But my point in that was that we did some kind of teasers before it, kind of some coding. And I was at a lemonade stand, and then I was next to the horse. What's the horse name? The glittered horse. I don't know the horse's name,

but it's a disco horse in a disco. Oh my God, you stopped our resident Beyonce expert. Joelle. Yes, but my daughter immediately got it. Leah, do you know? Joelle has a picture of the horse. I'm so obsessed. Joelle just pulled a picture of the horse out.

She is, she's amazing. But my daughter immediately got it because they're so used to this coding. Like everything is coded. Is it Beyonce's horse? It was Beyonce, she uses it in her concert. Mia, yes Mia, you know? I don't know, I'm sorry.

Oh, you unmuted and leaned forward, I'm sorry. No, sorry. I thought you were gonna say something. Mia, it's you unmuted and leaned forward, it's misleading. You gotta say something. You can't's unmuted, lean forward, it's misleading. You gotta say something. You can't unmute and then lean forward and be like. I was looking it up, I was looking it up, sorry.

I wish the audience could furiously see Joelle Googling Beyonce's horses. Her eyes are like this on the screen, they're going back and dark, back and forth really fast. But how was the experience? Oh, it was great, it was great. It was, I think we shot from like 6 a.m. to like 5 a.m. the next day. Wow. Wow.

And I, but it went by like, I was just like, it was like a front row seat to like an experience, you know? And she had like nine costume changes. I was in the same outfit. So I just sat around at craft service all day. So you, you shot that whole commercial in one day? Well, I came back the next day to shoot kind of my reaction shots. And then her and I stuff was that first day. Did you feel nervous working with her?

Did you give yourself any, I've said on this podcast before, sometimes when I'm working with someone of that stature, of like, holy shit stature, that I give myself little pep talks. Like, don't be in your head. When everyone sees this, you don't want to look like a nervous guy.

You're so full of shit, bro. When we first started, I remember we would go out and there would be all of these, there was only one time where I saw him lose his shit, but we would see so many famous people and this motherfucker would be able to handle, he would handle it no problem like. I'm not talking about out drinking, I'm talking about like directing Morgan Freeman. Oh, well I mean.

Oh, okay, well that's different, bro, okay, all right, hold on. Now I would think that's interesting, directing, I don't know about, this felt a little more, I think if it, maybe it's with my age and I'm 50, almost 54 years old. And I get more excited now with these kinds of experiences because it's an opportunity, I don't know, with someone who is so on a pedestal

and just like, she's so talented. I get excited about kind of seeing the humanity of someone, you know, and like she's so sweet and she's humble. And you know, she's a girl in the middle of this kind of, you know, whirlwind of talent and praise and stuff. And I don't know, just kind of seeing that humanity. Did she ask about Joelle? Do you know?

It's odd. I would say 50% of our conversation was talking about Joelle. Yeah. Which until this day, I didn't know. Now I know. But you're right. She's like Tony. Tony, you are right about that.

Her and Taylor Swift, Beyonce and Taylor Swift are starting a revolution right now. Man, it is. A musical revolution amongst these young ladies. And it is power. I mean, Cowboy Carter is incredible. Yeah. Oh, it is. A musical revolution amongst these young ladies. And it is powerful. I mean, Cowboy Carter is incredible. Yeah, oh man, come on. It is incredible. But you know what, I'm gonna say one thing.

This is the one thing that I'm gonna say about it all. They knew who to go to for the hit. They both went to that Posty Malone guy. I'm just gonna put it out there. They both went to the Post. They both threw it into the post. And he backed it down for them. And played it in.

Post Malone is the former. I'm just gonna put it out there. Best song on both albums. Best song on both albums. Post Malone. I will throw something at this computer. Levi's over 2MOS1 in Donald? I'll fight you right now. Alright, wait. 2MOS1 in is right, wait, two most wanted is dope.

Two most wanted is dope. I like the bunkin'. Bunk is a bunk, bunk. Bunkin'. Sweet honey bunkin'. I like, I love sweet honey bunkin'. That's a good one, Tony. That's a good one.

Tony, do you dance to sweet honey bunkin'? I love it. I love it. I love it. And there's also like, it's a snap. There's like a snap, snap, snap, snap thing. And I'm like, I hang man. This one with Dolly Parton. Yeah. Hang man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So a lot of good telling you they threw it into the post. They threw it into the post. And he backed them down and dunked it for them. What do you tell me what is unique about because I mean again I'm old about Post Malone that you they both went that guy. His sound is way different than everybody else's it's real it's it's it comes from the 80s but it's different man like something about Post Malone I'm listen I'm a 50 year old Right now, I think he has the melodies that I'm talking about. I just want to, because he says the same shit that everybody else says. He sings trap music, but he just has a melody to his stuff that's really, really, really good.

Am I wrong, Joelle? Not at all. He's very musically gifted where I think, you know, like he can do a lot of different things musically, which obviously elevates you and allows you to be fluid between genres in a way that not everybody can be. All right. We've kept Tony long enough. Tony, remind us how to say your show, De Cameron. De Cameron, see?

De Cameron. You got it. I love it. De Cameron. And it's on Netflix and when can people see it? I know, Netflix, we're happy to support a startup. Um, we, uh, we're, it airs the July 25th. July 25th, everybody. The show is epic, guys. It's epic.

It's really good, check it out. It's very funny, and it tells a It's very funny and it tells a story and you love to follow the characters. So do yourself a favor. And if you happen to be a Scrubs fan who has not ever watched Veep, you're really missing out. It's a very similar sense of humor and you will definitely love Veep.

How many years was Scrubs on? Except they got nominated for nine. Yeah, they won all the awards. Like y'all got nominated for everything. Yeah, they were way more highfalutin' than we were. I know you get this question all the time. Do you get the question all the time about like bringing it back?

Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. We're gonna bring it back in some capacity. It's just that our overlord and show runner, Bill Lawrence, is a very busy man. But he wants to bring it back and we all wanna bring it back. It's just a matter of, it's like the slot machine. It's a matter of all the things lining up

and getting cherries. And it's a lot, it's a big cast. It's challenging to do that. Yeah, but I think once Bill is like, this is the moment where I can do it. And I think it'll happen. And I know the fans want it. Oh, it's such a joy.

That would be such a joy to reunite all you guys. Even if it's just for some sort of short run, it would be a blast. You get that question a lot with Pete? I used to with Arrested and then they kind of- Well, you guys did it. Yeah, we did it. And Veep, that would be fun.

We kind of, if you've seen the finale, it kind of jumps ahead and she, well, that's a spoiler, but it jumps away. Spoiler is Tony. But there could be something in the middle, maybe. I hope you bring Veep back. You could go back and tell more stories. That's how we're looking. That's what I think is gonna happen.

I think we're gonna go back into the exact moment where we were all in the hospital together and just tell the stories. I feel, a lot of Scrubs fans feel about Scrubs. Tony, I feel like I would be so giddy if there was some announcement. They're going to do a limited 12 episodes. Veep is back. They're going to tell a story they didn't tell. I would, I'd be so in. That would be so dope. Yeah. Same, same. All right,

brother. Thank you. I wish that you guys. Thank you guys. This was a delight. Thank you so much. In a world where TikTok didn't exist yet. Las películas no tenían color. The comedy of a genio mexicano crossed borders y conquistó the heart of America. Da da da da da! Sus personajes acompañaron las tardes de millones de latinos.

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Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.

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sometimes glamorous, sometimes chaotic life and marriage. I don't think he knew how big it would be, how big the life I was given and live is. I think he was like, oh yeah, things come and go, but with me it never came and went." Is she Donna Martin or a down-and-out divorcee? Is she living in Beverly Hills or a trailer park? In a town where the lines are blurred, Tori is finally going to clear the air in the podcast Misspelling. When a woman has nothing to lose, she has everything to gain. I just filed for divorce.

Whoa. I said the words that I've said, like in my head for like 16 years. Wild. Listen to Miss Spelling on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Angie Martinez. Check out my podcast where I talk to some of the biggest athletes, musicians, actors in the world. We go beyond the headlines and the soundbites that have real conversations about real life, death, love, and everything in between. This life right here, just finding

myself, just, just relaxation. It's not feeling stressed. It's not feeling pressed. This is what I'm most proud of. I'm proud of Mary because I've been through hell and some horrible things. That feeling that I had of inadequacy is gone. You're gonna die being you. So you gotta constantly work on who you are to make sure that the stars align correctly. Life ain't easy and it's getting harder and harder.

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["Rewatch Your Wizards and Don't Know"] That was amazing. That was amazing. What a great guest, huh? Joelle, great producing. Oh, thank you. These are your flowers and your snaps. I'm receiving them and appreciating them.

Yeah. Great engineering today. Amazing engineering. I can't believe that you have come about. Danel is in danger. I know. I agree. Danger.

I mean, you get rid of whatever that sound is in your background, Mia. I'm gonna take it off right now. I'm trying to figure it out. I will. Mia, if you can figure out why it sounds like you live on a train. Yeah, we would love to have you back. It's probably a fan. Mia, what's that?

If your computer fan is on your laptop, it'll create that sound right next to the mic. Yeah. Well, well, if Daniel's ever unable to make it again, I want you to book Mia and her new sound system. No, I'm kidding. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Got you. But Tony was a great guest, and Joelle, I seriously wanna thank you. Your prep notes were really helpful, and I really, you know, we're learning how to do this interview thing. It's not what Donald and I are schooled in, but it's a lot of fun talking to actors, isn't it?

It really is. I like that the most, to be honest with you. It's cool to talk to people who are interesting. Well, I like talking about sex, too, Zach. We all do. But I I I definitely like talking to people who have gone through the exact same experiences that we have. And I think it's something that, I hope it's something that the listeners wanna talk about also.

I hope so. Because, I mean, it seems glitz and glamoury, but that shit is not, you know what I mean? It's work, there's another side to it. And that's what he was trying to say when, you know, you get that first sitcom, you're like, all I wanted was a sitcom, and you get that shit.

And it's not exactly what you thought it was going to be. Yeah, and then I would have never thought that after arrested, he was like, are we gonna have to sell our house? Yeah, man. You know, he had that anxiety. I misunderstood. I thought Veep kind of went right in. I didn't realize there was such a big split in the years.

There's not a lot of work out there, bro. And what everybody sees is the work that you got at the time, but there's times where you're not working for years. If you're counting on acting to pay your bills and you are blessed enough to have that ability or have that opportunity, you got to understand that in between jobs is where that money needs to be put. You know what I mean? It's just a lot of people don't know that. A lot of people look at it as, I got all of this money, I'm balling. And then you go down that rollercoaster

hill and- Yeah, I'm always shocked when I see these new people that blew up and they're driving like a Bentley. I'm like, you shouldn't be buying a Bentley. Don't buy a Bentley, bro. Don't buy the Bentley, bro. You see this in Hollywood though, like someone's famous for a day and they're driving around a Bentley. It's like, Oh bro. That first check, it'd be burning a hole in your pocket. I remember that first check. That first, I spent the whole clueless check on a car. I'll never forget that. I got a Jeep Cherokee. I'll never forget that. What kind of car was it? Donald Wood. I got a Jeep Cherokee.

I'll never forget it. And my mom said, red Jeep Cherokee, Laredo. My mom said, this shit's so fucking hilarious. My mom said to me, she goes, did you learn your lesson? I said, yeah, I need to make some more money. That's funny. All right, audience, thank you for tuning in. We appreciate you. We love you. Stay safe out there. Be kind. Donald, count us out. And a Canada who loved the hate I said, here's the stories that we all should know

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