Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - You Might Want to Buckle Up, Baby with Billy Dee Williams

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

In our second interview, we welcome the legendary Billy Dee Williams to the show. Mr. Williams tells us about his passion for painting, how to play heartthrob, and why he doesn't believe children should work. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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My pleasure. This will be the first episode ever, I believe. Maybe there's another one of fake doctors, real friends that we can put on YouTube in, in, well, high resolution. I'm not loving my hair today. I wish it was better for this monumental moment. You look great. I know, but there's like a center part. No one like no one likes a center part.

Donald, Daniel, Al Falfah, the Zennials do. Who does? Yeah, the Zenz is all about the center part, Donald, Daniel, Joel. Alfalfa? The Zennials do. Who does? Gen Z is all about the middle part. They don't like a side part. I have so much to talk to you guys about. George McFly loves the center. Alfalfa? Alfalfa?

I went to game seven, guys, and I don't think, I wanna just say what's... Come on, Maxie, I don't wanna... Why, you're mad that your friend got to go to game seven? No, I'm not mad that you got to go to game seven. I'm mad because of the outcome. You put the fucking Juju out there with that bullshit. Oh, you're gonna blame it on me?

You're gonna blame it on me. You're the one that said, you're the one that said, look guys, let's hope for a game seven, because then I get to go. Right. I said. Yes. Fuck game seven, let then I get to go. Right. I said, Yes. Fuck game seven, let's win it in six.

That's the way to go. And then all of you guys like, no, come on, Donald, don't you want them to go to game seven? Well, in this story, I'm the reason they lost? You in my story, in our story, in the you and I story, you are the fucking and I story, you are the fucking reason they lost because you just had to go to a game, didn't you? You just had to go.

I gotta tell you, you're gonna think this is crazy because of my whole history of not loving sports, but I gotta say, I really have fun going to MSG. I'm a regular now. It's a great stadium. I think I might be going tomorrow to the Rangers game. It's not a stadium, it's an arena. Oh, whatever. All right, fine, arena. I think I might be going to the Rangers game tomorrow. Nice. The Rangers were all seeded by- You're bad luck for New York. Every game you

go to, they lose, yo. You're such a hater. Bringing that Jersey shit up in there, man. Bringing that Garden State shit. You're saying I bring New Jersey energy that's ruining New York's teams? That bridge and tunnel crowd. You bring that bridge and tunnel crowd to the garden. But those of you who don't know, that is a New Yorker's negative term

for people who don't live in New York. They call us bridge and tunnelers. Yeah, because you claim New York like it's yours, but really you got to take a bridge and a tunnel. Not me. I don't take any bridge or tunnel to get to Manhattan. That's where I live now. When you were younger, this is how you know. This is how you know.

Motherfuckers would be like, where are you from? And you'd be like, oh, I'm from New York. And they'd be like, oh really? What part? Oh, well really I'm from Jersey. I'm from like York and they'll be like, oh really what part? Oh, well really I'm from Jersey. I'm from like right across the river That's how all you Jersey motherfuckers be acting and don't act like you don't I grew up in New York City I know and I know how you talk. I know but I now do you agree now that I'm a proper New Yorker? You're transplant. I'll give you that. What the fuck you talking about? I've lived here since like 99

I'll give you that. What the fuck you talking about? I've lived here since like 99. Okay. I mean, I'm officially a New Yorker. And a L.A.R. You are, okay, I'm about to say, what are you? Are you a New Yorker? I pay taxes in L.A., which I guess means

you spend six months, right? That's how they figure out where you're supposed to pay taxes. Wherever you spend six months, you have to pick. You have to pick. So I think I spend six months and a day in LA at least. I love New York, I'm not gonna lie. It's so fun right now, dude. It's 80 degrees out.

People are fucking happy, right, Daniel? You know. I got the t-shirt on, by the way, we're matching, Zach. Did we call each other before this? I know, I just changed into this. I went and bought a t-shirt. Are the ladies wearing short shorts right now? Everyone, the men are in their tank tops.

The ladies are in their sundresses. Everyone's got a little bop. Is the jiggle out? Everyone's jiggling. There we go. You would love it. You can't go wrong when the city's jiggling. When the jiggling is... I'm gonna tell you something right now.

Go ahead and tell us. LL was right. What did LL say? When it's jiggling, baby. Go ahead, baby. That's all I gotta say. Everyone is, is it jiggling or jiggling? Jiggling. Jiggling.

Everyone's jiggling. Everyone's feeling themselves. Oh yeah. There was an energy, right, Daniel? You know it, you feel it. I feel it very much so. I was walking around Greenpoint earlier today, got my Radio Bakery hat and it was nice.

It was nice. People were definitely feeling it. You're in Greenpoint? Where's Greenpoint at? It's in Brooklyn. You grew up, you're bragging about your New York status and you don't even know where Greenpoint is. It sounds very caucused.

What does that mean? What? Caucasian? Yes. Oh my God. I'm not with that word, Dane. You made up a word for whiteness? Caucus?

Caucus. I went to dinner with Johnny C. McGinley last night. In New York, he's in New York too? Yeah, Johnny came to New York for an event he's doing and we had a really fun dinner. I'm gonna try and bring him to the Rangers game tomorrow. Wouldn't that be fun? He'd like that, he's a Ranger.

He would like that. No, he's a- He's a hockey fan. Detroit Red Wings fan. He loves hockey and I think I'm trying to get us both into the garden tomorrow since I'm a regular now. I got the hookup, I found the hookup. I'm gonna tell them that you're a fucking bridging tunneler.

You need to be nicer to me because there's going to come a point where you're going to want my MSG hookup. And I'll be like, I don't know. No, I've seen your seats. I'm good. I think I can do better. Really? Really? Listen to you. Really? Yeah, really? As a New Yorker. I don't have like Spike Lee seats. Are you saying that you have like Spike Lee level seats? I don't have that. I've sat Are you saying that you have like Spike Lee level seats? I don't have that.

I've sat on the floor a few times at MSG. You know that meme where Mariah Carey says, I don't know her? Yeah. That's what's gonna happen when you try and get my MSG hookup. I'm not calling your MSG hookup. I'm gonna, I got some people I know.

I just want you to know if and when a time comes where you're like, hey, Zach, can I have your MSG hookup? I'm gonna do the Mariah Carey, I don't know her. Okay, so the next time you try and get tickets to an MSG event and your hookup doesn't come through, I'm gonna pull the Celine Dion shit on you. What's that, Celine, what's that? Where the window roll, where she rolls down the window

to listen for a second. Doesn't like what she hears, rolls the window up, car drives off. I told, I was sending Donald pictures of all the, they call it Celebrity Row, all the celebrities that were on Celebrity Row. They had Tracy Morgan, Ben Stiller. Tracy Morgan was up in Morgan, Ben Stiller.

Tracy Morgan was up in there. Ben Stiller. Brian Fellows was in the house. John Stewart, Spike Lee, of course. Jason Bateman. Yeah, well, there were lots of stars in the house, but on Celebrity Row, was Bateman on that initial like Spike Lee row?

I don't know, I don't know. All I know is, all I know is- Anyway, it was fun, it's a blast. You jin know is, all I know is- Anyway, it was fun. It's a blast. You jinxed. That was not a blast. That game was horrible. Yeah, the game was horrible.

But I don't, I'm not gonna take credit for it. I'm not gonna sit here and say it's my fault. But it is, but okay. We should probably get the show going. We gotta really- Yeah, you guys, we have a big show today. We have Billy D. Williams, the legend. We are so excited and honored

that he's decided to come on the show. Donald, you know, we need to talk to him about his illustrious career, not just being Lando. Oh no, I'm a huge fan of his, actually. I followed him for a really long time. And you guys have something in common in that you both came up and began very young in New York City as actors.

Yes. I'm excited. All right, here we go, everyone. Donald's going to count us in, and then we're going to bring in the legend, Billy Dee Williams. 5, 6, 7, 8. Here's some stories about a show we made, about a bunch of dogs and nurses and a calendar who loved making

ice, and here's a stories that we all should know So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our spurs We watch your with Zach and Donno Well, welcome Mr. Billy D. Williams. It is such an honor. Thunderous applause, Daniel. Thunderous applause for the living legend, Billy D. Williams. We're so honored to have you on our show. We know that you are out and about talking

about your new biography, What Have We Here, Portrait of a Life. Thank you so much for joining us on Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Oh, thank you for having me. One of the fun things for us, that's a connection, I don't even know if you remember doing it, but Donald and I were on scrubs for many, many years and you did a very fun cameo for us. Do you remember doing that? Yeah, as a matter of fact, I use the footage

uh footage whenever i do these uh conventions oh really yeah that's so is it me screaming you are hysterical you are you your reaction is hysterical you anyway i'm well. I'm really well. Thank you for asking. The last time I saw you was at a celebration, I think, in Chicago. That's the last time I saw you. Yeah, right. Yeah.

I got a picture from there too. And we look good together, man. I'm not going to lie. We look real good. Like I would say father and son, Just going to put it out there. Just going to put it out there for those listening. Nice to hear. Thank you. Billy, do you go to a lot of those?

I mean, obviously, you're known for so many roles. One of the most popular is of course, Lando. Do you go to a lot of those conventions and see the fans? Because I know fans are just so excited whenever they see you. Yeah, I've done quite a few of those over the years. And I have a good time. It's fun. It's enjoyable. It's always nice to meet people that have given you a lot of support throughout the years.

I mean, if you relied on the people in Hollywood to give you accolades, you'd be in a hell of a lot of trouble. So it's nice to go out and meet the people who've given you all this support throughout, as I said, throughout the years. Do you ever have people come up to you and just ask you like, I remember Bingo Long as a kid, you know what I mean?

That was one of my favorite movies as a youth about Negro League baseball. It was you, Richard Pryor, James O. Jones. And you guys were playing baseball for the traveling all, it was Bingo Long and the Traveling All-Stars. I remember this. Bingo Long and the traveling all stars and Motor King. I remember I remember watching this movie, thinking this is one of the best movies ever. And they did.

This came before a lot of your stuff came before. So we can start. We can start with Brian's song if you want to. But all of the stuff that you did before Lando, I remember when you did Lando, the way my parents reacted, they were from Harlem. You know, they, well, not from Harlem, they moved to Harlem from, you know, one from DC,

one from Springfield, Massachusetts, and they wound up in Harlem, and you are a legend in Harlem. You know what I mean? You are a Harlem legend.. You know what I mean? You are a Harlem legend. I have pictures, you know, I also grew up in Harlem. I grew up in House Kitchen as well,

but I grew up at the National Black Theater in Harlem, and that was where I got my start at a very young age. And I just remember when Empire came out, we all went to the movie theater to support you. I'll never forget that. I will never forget myself, Barbara Anter, my mom, my dad, everybody. We went to the movie theater to support you.

And we didn't really even know you. You were just somebody from the neighborhood that was a legend, you know what I mean? Oh, really? Yeah, 125th Street and Fifth, National Black Theater. Do you know it? No, I have no idea. I never heard of it.

You're breaking my heart, Billy Dee. You're breaking my heart. But Billy, you and Donald had that in common in that you both were very young getting involved in the theater, right? I mean, I read that you started and your first play was at seven years old. Yeah, I was in a Broadway musical.

I was six and a half, seven years old. My mom got me started in show business. How did that come about? Well, she was an aspiring performer and she studied opera for many years and she had great dreams of becoming a movie star, but of course in those days that wasn't really possible. And she was working at the Lyceum Theatre in New York City at the time for Ben Boyer

and Max Thornton. They were the Broadway managers and producers. And they were doing this musical by Kurt Weill at the time. You know who Kurt Weill is? No. Okay, well, he wrote three penny opera with Berko Brecht. Oh, wow. Wow.

He wrote music. And they were doing this musical, the Firebrown of Florence, and they were looking for a little boy to play this page boy to the Duchess. And the Duchess was being played by Latta Elenia. You probably have no idea who she is. Andny was married to Kravall. She was the original pirate Jenny in Three Penny Opera. Anyway, so you could look all that stuff up and it's all really quite interesting. They were looking for a little boy to cast in this role and they realized that my mom had this little boy and so she had me auditioned. They took me down to the theater. There was George S. Kaufman, John Murray Anderson, and all of these notable at that time. And they had me walk across stage one time, two times.

And they said, Billy, that's fine, great. But I was I became really enamored with the whole idea of being on a stage. So I decided I wanted to do it the third time. And they said, no, that's OK. Well, I insisted and I started crying. So I always said, I cried my way into show business. But that's how it kind of all started.

You knew right away, you knew at seven years old, I like this feeling. That was, it's funny, cause Donald and I have that both in common too. My first audition was at eight, and Donald, you started way younger. I started at five actually. Well, no, I was doing,

I remember traveling to Seattle, Washington with the National Black Theater doing a play, When the Lion Roars, that we wrote with our teacher at the time. And it was one of the things that, I was homeschooled until third grade. So a lot of my introduction into education and community was through theater,

which sounds amazing. It sounds like what your life was. I find it really awesome when kids can I find it really awesome when kids can, you know, hold themselves accountable at a very young age. That's a very powerful thing for a kid to have, a very powerful tool for a young child to have. And I think that's really awesome that at seven, you knew exactly what it was you wanted to be.

You think it's a powerful tool? I had one experience and I was very happy that I didn't have any more experiences. Really? After that. Wait, what do you mean? I think kids should just simply be kids and go to school and interact with other kids.

If they want to do that, yeah. You end up like Donald here. I did all right. I thought I did all right. I think you did great. Now Billy, you went to LaGuardia High School? Well, LaGuardia, it wasn't LaGuardia at that time. It was a music and art high school. Yeah. It became LaGuardia when it joined with Performing Arts.

Yeah, it moved, right? Cause it was up town. Later on when I went there, it was up by a city college. Yeah, I think it became a Philip Randolph or something like that, right? So I have no idea, but anyway, it was a part of the city college campus.

And when you were there, were you, I know you just said you didn't wanna do any more child acting, but you, did you do any acting in high school or did you focus on painting? Well, yeah, I was a painter and that's why I went to music, my sister and I.

So painting was pretty much my focus at that time. I didn't stop back doing the whole show business stuff until I was like about 18, 19. Is that when you realized that's what you wanted to do? I just sort of followed my instincts and I followed what life was handing me in those moments. So I was busy running around trying to make out with a lot of ladies. I was about to say, man, at that age, at 18, 19, you wanted to hand some of these motherfuckers on the planet. You know what I'm saying? 100, bro. Before I left the music art high school, I went to a school called the National Academy of Design

for the Fine Arts. I spent two years on the scholarship painting and I was, when I was by 1819, I was nominated for a Guggenheim and also won a Hallgarten, which is comparable to a Guggenheim, but that's pretty much what I was doing at that time. And then somehow I say what my life sort of segues back into the world of theater. So I did a lot of theater in those years. When did you realize that you were being considered for such, I mean obviously you must have known that you people thought of you as a very handsome man. That's not happened to me or Donald. I'm waiting for my- Yeah, it hasn't yet happened to us, but we're wondering when you realized

that you were such a sex symbol to people. The moment I walked out of the room. Yeah. Ha ha ha! So how did Culp 45 come about? Like what happened that all of a sudden you were like, you know what? This is, cause I remember those commercials as a youth also. I remember the bull.

I remember you. I remember works every time. I remember, how did that come about? Well, they asked me to be a spokesperson for CO 445 at that time. So when I look at like Zach and I, we work with T-Mobile right now. That's the brand that we do a lot of really cool commercials with and stuff like that.

We look at it like we're happy that the contract is still going. Did you know back then how long your contract was gonna be? Because that malt liquor owes you a debt of gratitude. You're the reason why it sold out the fridge. Everyone wanted to be cool. You know what I mean? Did you know that it was going to last that long when you first signed on? Was that the deal? It lasted 10 years or so, but I don't know. I just did it and I enjoyed it. I had a lot

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Well, I'm not doing as much as I should be doing, but I still work at it. It's really, really beautiful. Do you ever show your work in a gallery? Well, I've shown my work at a number of galleries throughout the years, but not recently. Yeah, I really liked that one behind you. I have like over 300.

I'm in my studio right now, actually. Oh wow. But I have over 300 paintings stored away. That's wild. Can you tell us about the one behind you? Well, this is sort of in some small way, it is expressing something about my sister, my deceased twin sister. Another gigantic moment in your career was the legendary Brian's song,

which I remember being an enormous moment in television. I believe it like broke all records. You wrote that down, what Joelle wrote down for us, what the record was. 50 million live viewers. Yeah, 55 million Americans tuned in to watch Brian's song, which I don't think is something that's happened very often on the planet.

What do you think it was about that film that resonated with so many people? Well, I've always regarded that whole experience as an act of love. It was a very, one of the rarest special moments in my life or anybody's life. I don't know, you know, it just resonated with people. It was a beautiful love story between two guys who were two straight guys. It had all of the elements of ethos and fun. It was about two guys from two different backgrounds coming together in a really beautiful, wonderful way, which has always been very difficult for

people to express. I mean, you know, the racial differences, you know, the ethnicity differences. It worked. It worked because, well, I think, for one, Jimmy and I had a great chemistry. And, uh, and so that really, uh, how people responded to that. I don't know. It was, uh, it was just a beautiful story. It makes me think of Donald and I in some ways, because our characters are on scrubs, we're,ubs were not only best friends, but the show allowed us to show emotion

that even in the year 2000s, people still were not, it wasn't a common occurrence to show two straight guy friends being so close, being so open with their love for each other. It feels like it's a similar thing. I don't know, Don, if you've ever thought about that. Sports does that though, man. Sports has a way of touching people. This is actually a real story. And if I'm correct, the monologue you do at the end of the movie is verbatim.

It must have felt like doing a play. You know what he said, it's documented and now you're playing this character. Did you and James ever hang out after that? Like, I mean, God rest his soul. But did you guys, were you guys buddies after that? Because the chemistry that you have in the film is amazing. No, no, actually with two different people. He was more of a gangster. I'm just a sweet little boy. So there's a very quiet, very loving, he was loving in his own way. But we were not compatible when it came to hanging out with each other. He really was a gangster. I was listening to this audio book that's about the making of Godfather and it's called

Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. And it's incredible how he knew the world. It seemed like he was very familiar with the world of the movie. And then when he got the part, he went even further in to do quote unquote research, hanging out with the fellas. Yeah, I think he was pretty much a part of the Las Vegas group, I think. I mean, I've known a lot of gangsters in my life, but I'm not a gangster. I think he was much more into that kind of lifestyle.

Now, on a Brian Song, it's amazing. He went from one enormous thing to the next because Brian Song was such an incredible phenomenon. And then when you joined the Star Wars world with Empire Strikes Back, I mean, nothing could have been bigger than that. Was that a big life change for you when all of a sudden you're being recognized, I'm sure, everywhere you go? I mean, all of the movie roles came after that too.

Like so many movie roles came after that. Well, I did a lot of movie roles, I mean a few. I mean, Lady Sings of Blue. Blue's great movie. One of my favorites. The movie called Hit, which was a kind of an interesting movie. There were others. I expressed a lot of it in the book because of the kind of exchanges I've had with the people that I've worked with, which I thought were pretty interesting. That was kind of part of a life lesson. But certainly I'm just daddy and kind of a husband, I guess.

I don't know. No, I don't know. Your stories are a lot more interesting. Oh, I know, but our audience is so bored of hearing about our stories, Billy. That's why we have to have interesting people like you on to tell us because Donald and I have shared them every anecdote in our lives so far. Well, I've had a pretty extraordinary life. Yeah, you have.

Yeah. I like most people, I think. I started at a very early point in my life. My life to me is a very eclectic. I always say I see myself as the full spectrum of colors. When I did Lando, for instance, when I heard the name Calarisia, I thought, wow, that's interesting. It's an Armenian name. And I thought, well, let me see what I can do with this. And then, of course, when I got the cake, that sort of solidified everything that was into the Earl Flynn realm. So I put those ideas together and I came up with what I thought was a bigger than life special kind of character.

Well, he's my favorite character in the whole universe. That's who I identified with growing up. And I appreciated. I've seen a lot of your movies, actually. The one you did with Sylvester Stallone, they were you guys are. Yeah. Night.

Were you guys a chasing dude through the subway and all of that stuff? Right. Oh, you're right. and all of that stuff. Right. You record Howard. Yes. Yes. Yes. He was probably one of the best bad guys ever.

Yeah. And then you and you and Richard prior did a few movies together, but bingo long and then lady sings the blues. I think, you know, your performance in that is amazing. Bingo Long is one of my favorite movies as a kid. I really enjoyed that movie. It was because of the way my dad reacted when he watched the movie

and the way my mom reacted to you guys. There was like three legends. That movie was, in my opinion, a very special experience. At the time when Paramount was distributing the movie, they thought it weren't very accommodating in the sense that they didn't know what to do with the movie about a bunch of black guys running around the country playing baseball.

So, but I always felt that at some point or another, that movie would have resonate in a very interesting and historical way. It was a lot of fun to do that movie. I really enjoyed it. Not always because of the actors I was working with but we worked with a real baseball players from the Negro Leagues And that was a lot of fun. Very interesting My father and I used to go out and watch them all the time in Central Park. We used to go out and Watch them for the Cuban baseball players. Yeah way back in the day before you were born the Cuban baseball players way back in the day before you were born. Well, I mean, that was, but that was my dad and I's bond was sports. You know what I mean? If it wasn't Bingo Long and the traveling all-stars, it was the fish that saved

Pittsburgh. You know what I mean? Like that's how my dad and I expressed love for each other when we were kids and when I was a kid. And so it's gonna sound crazy, but the fact that Darth Vader and Lando Calrissian were in a movie and Richard Pryor was the comic relief in it. I just thought I couldn't fathom, like as a youth, how is this put together? How did they make this happen? And I was kind of young when Lady Sings the Blues came out, but then as a grownup watching it,

I mean, you personify cool. You are what a lot of these cats out here are trying to do now. You're going to let my hand fall off? There's so many amazing moments in that movie. I wonder, do you and Diana Ross ever still talk? Do you guys say hello to each other every once in a while? Well, I run into her every now and again. You guys had magic too. Like you have, like your chemistry. We had a great chemistry.

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Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.

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And I just thought you could just speak to a little more, both of you, about what it felt like to see, you know, an African-American man entering in and being one of the leads in something that you were so passionate about. And Donald, you've spoken before about how you felt like you saw yourself entering the world of that space. Well, Star Wars didn't become Star Wars until Lando shows up, you know what I mean? Star Wars was watching a bunch of white people run around with blasters and stuff like that and guns and it was cool and stuff.

But then when Lando shows up, it was like, oh shit, I can be in Star Wars too. You know, I can be, I can, you know, oh, and he gets to fly the Millennium Falcon? Okay. Well, you know, and that became one of the reasons why I became an actor because I knew at a very young age there's no way I'll be able to do all of that stuff in real life. Fantasy is the way to go, becoming an, you know, and for me it was that and I didn't see myself For me, it was that. And I didn't see myself until that moment.

And then as an adult, you know, the decisions that Lando Calrissian has to make, those are real life decisions, real big boy decisions. And, you know, I would react the same way. I would, you know, it's just, I don't know, man. It's one of those things. You wouldn't turn Han Solo in though, Donald. I would turn you know, it's just, I don't know, man. It's one of those things. You wouldn't turn Han Solo in though, Donald. I would turn Han Solo in in a heartbeat. To save a whole proud city.

To save a whole city of people. Are you kidding me? Don't get all worked up. Don't get so... That's like you saying to me, dude, I'm coming to New York and I'm like, all right, come through. But I know that when you get there, you're probably going to get arrested. By the cops. And I don't say nothing, because if I say something to there, you're probably going to get arrested by the cops. And I don't say nothing because if I say something to you, they're

going to probably arrest me. But if, if not only are they going to arrest me, they're going to fucking destroy the whole city that I'm the only one. So you don't fault Lando for his. Hell no. He did the right thing. He protected millions of people. In cloud city.

And, and, and, and, and Billy Dee has the greatest quote ever, line ever, nobody died. Well, I love how passionate you are about it. And I'm sure Billy, you run into people that are this passionate about it all the time. It meant so much to so many people. It was all very interesting. I didn't know that you studied with Sidney Poitier, man. That's new for me. He was at one point, he was teaching just prior to his whole life changing.

And becoming a big movie star. So you and him were working together before the fame. Yeah, well, I knew Sydney, well, there's a 10 year difference. I'm 87, he was, when he passed, I guess he was about 86. Yeah, I knew him through friends of mine back in those years. He was, that time, I think with the another company I don't know it was your company or some other no he was with the Harlem actors workshop that's something

that's not the right okay so he was I think working as a dish at one of the restaurants on 125th Street. He did one television show, I think, called A Man Is 10 Feet Tall. And then that same television show he ended up doing with John Casavetes. It was called The Edge of the City. He was, I guess in a sense, the chosen one at that time in those years.

But he was quite brilliant. The thing I always liked about Sidney was that he was very much a part of the new genre of actors at the time that were involved with Stanislavski and Voloslavski and, you know, the method and all that sort of stuff. He brought a whole new spirit, a whole new way of approaching acting as far as black actors were concerned. Were you heavy into Method? Oh, very much so. I'm part of that generation.

He was quite inspiring. But there were others too. There were people like Juan Hernandez, people like Frank Silvera, who was one of my favorite actors at that time. As far as I Hesitate to use the term black actors They were to me just simply

Did you ever get to work with any of them only never worked with Sydney never except, you know from teaching Never worked with Frank Silver never worked with water on this No, but I always had a tremendous admiration for the way they approached the craft. What do you credit Billy, to you looking and looking like you're 45 years old still? What is the secret? Because Donald and I complain about our wrinkles and

we're 49 and 50 and you just look so incredible and so many people don't stay as lucid and clear and work and have the full life that you have. I mean is there anything you look back on and go you recommend people do to have longevity like you? Well, you just live a debauched life and it's like tossing that. Okay. It's nature, not nurture, right? Yeah, or both. Or both, okay.

Or both, okay. Well, you look incredible. I wanna remind everyone Billy's book is called What Have We Here? A Portrait of a Life and it's on shelves now. Billy Dee, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us, we really, really appreciate it. Well, thank you very much.

Thank you for inviting me. Have a wonderful day. All I know. You too, TC. Stay well. Thank you. You too. Be blessed, thank you. From the writer of Amazon Prime's Red, White, and Royal Blue comes a hilarious and demented new audio mystery.

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Meet the real woman behind the tabloid headlines in a personal podcast that delves into the life of the notorious Tori Spelling as she takes us through the ups and downs of her sometimes glamorous, sometimes chaotic life and marriage. I don't think he knew how big it would be, how big the life I was given and live is. I think he was like, oh yeah, things come and go, but with me it never came and went.

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I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120, she's terrified. You always do. One session, 24 hours. EPM 110, 120, she's terrified. Should we wake her up?

Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.

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He called Sidney the chosen one. You know what I mean? There are a bunch of people, you know, as an actor that you sweat, you know. He's, in my opinion, I think it's a blessing if Sidney Poitier is the actor that you sweat. You know what I'm saying? And you got to learn from him.

That's cool. Yeah. I think it's a blessing. You know what I'm saying? And you got to learn from him. That's cool. I think it's a blessing. You know what I mean? And, you know, I was very lucky to get to work with a lot of my idols. I got to work with Denzel. I got to work with Billy D Williams. I got to, you know what I mean? These things don't happen. And in hearing his conversation about his life, he didn't get to work with the people that he wanted to work with, you know,

that inspired him. That's interesting, you're right. And so I, just from listening to him, as much as he inspired me, I realized how lucky I am to, you know, get to do the things that I wanna do. Yeah. That's one. And two, you know, as you become, as you get older,

you can't just focus on this acting shit for the rest of your life, man. You got to find something else to satisfy you. And he's so lucky and blessed to be able to fall back on art, you know what I mean? By the way, that's a thing you guys have in common too, that, you know, you do your animation. He's, you know, painting sounds like it's been his lifelong passion.

Yeah, yeah. For a sense, I guess it's what he wanted to do instead of being an actor. I wish I had something like that. I need to pick something up like that. What about photography? No, I do. I shoot a lot of pictures and I love photography,

but I, lately I've been thinking as I watch, as I was listening, I was thinking of his love of painting and your love of animation. I'd love to have something that I, whether it's playing the piano or something that I can fiddle with in my house, besides my peep.

Well, I'm gonna be honest with you. Go ahead. Fiddling with my peep is one of my favorite things to do. I know, you're very good at it. I, I, I- Very skilled. I'm a master at fiddling with my peep. I can't do that now because I have a really bad tennis elbow.

Hold on. Heard. What does your elbow have to do with fiddling with your peep? Well, fortunately, it's only, it's my left hand that's really bad. So I- Oh. I'm sorry. Unless I'm doing the stranger, I'm fine. But I, I'm about to say, no stranger. Daniel, you were going to give me some tips for my, um, from my tennis elbow.

By the way, audience, I learned as a fake doctor that I always assumed that tennis elbow had to do with you're playing so much tennis and your arm hurts. They just call it that because it's the muscle on the back of your forearm that gets strained. But Dan, what do you do for it? Cause mine out of the blue hurts. Sure. Am I just hashtag getting old?

Hashtag getting old, but don't worry. I'm suffering from it as well. So, you know, it's a hardly a old thing, but my doctor recommends that you do more lifting, more strengthening of that spot. I know, but you know, the reason it's called tennis elbow. It's so sore right now. Well, it comes from that muscle. You know, for me, it's the kind of like explosive motion

of for me throwing a frisbee, and if you play tennis, it's swinging a tennis racket. And if all of them exercise on that is just from this kind of like explosive motion, you're really working that muscle really hard. At least that's what I'm learning. So doing some sort of glistening strength. I got this ice sleeve on the internet, that helps.

The sleeve is good. I have a compression sleeve that I wear whenever I play. No, this is an ice one. You put it, it's the jelly, it's that jelly material, you know, and it's a sleeve and you put it in the freezer and then you slide it on and it feels real nice Well That's all right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry your elbow hurts. I'm so sorry you guys your elbow hurts But you lost me just now me and the rest of the audience just like this

No, there are listeners out there who have occasional tennis. It's like maybe four listeners right now No, I agree. There's plenty of four listeners right now that are like, I agree, Zach, my elbow doesn't hurt. There's plenty of times where you're talking about some fucking video game no one gives a shit about. Yeah, exactly. Daniel, how quickly you turn on your kind. I know that no one gives a shit about what I'm talking about. Hey, at least I'm aware that no one gives a shit

when I'm talking about it. How quickly you turn on your kind. There are plenty of times where I just lean back in my chair and let you all talk about fucking some fucking bullshit video game. I know I mentioned Ultimate Frisbee and I'm really talking to two of our listeners. No, Ultimate Frisbee, you got a bunch of stoners

out there listening to us. Hell yeah. There are a bunch of people that are like, yo, fuck, it's 80 degrees in New York right now. I'm going outside to fucking throw some Frisbee. Yes sir. In Sheeps Meadow. Some Ultimate Frisbee. Well, I think I Sheeps Meadow. Some Ultimate Frisbee.

Well, I think I've mentioned this. It was invented at Columbia High School, my alma mater, which you can Google if you don't believe. Joel Silver, I believe. Wait, Joel Silver, the producer? Yes. Created Ultimate Frisbee?

Yes, at Columbia High School. Did you play Ultimate Frisbee, Danil? I played in college and I still play now three times a week. Do you play Frisbee golf ever? I play Frisbee golf sometimes. Hit a disc golf. Can I ask you guys a question? Because I've never played Ultimate still play now. Three times a week. Do you play frisbee golf ever? I play frisbee golf sometimes. Hit a disc golf.

Can I ask you guys a question because I've never played ultimate frisbee. What is it? Sure. Soccer with frisbee. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. Oh.

You can't run with it when you have it. Correct. Correct. It kind of plays like soccer and football where you throw it into an end zone. Oh, so there's no throwing it into a- There's no goal. No, but first step is you get very high. Any time you play any freaking game created in a meadow,

a field, like hacky sack and or frisbee, you gotta be high first. The first step of ultimate frisbee is you pull the bar here. Yes. Right, right. Then step two two is meet your friends at the park. No, no, no, no, no Step three when you get to the park you smoke a little bit more Yes, and then once you once you once you've gotten to the park you you pull another bong here Supporting evidence for this the there's no better rolling tray than an upside down Frisbee. No better.

Ah! There you go everyone. It's got high walls. You don't lose your shit. You don't lose your shit. All right, well everyone, that's our show. Thank you so much. You know, I really appreciate Billy Dee coming on the show.

He's 87 years old. He doesn't have to fucking talk to us, but he took the time. He did though. though. He did. He got a book and you guys should all go out and read it. Yeah, go check out his book. I bet you in the book he expounds, expounds? I think that's the right word.

That's correct, that's correct. Well, I wanna thank you for, I wanna give you your flowers because not only did you get us Billy D. Williams, but you also did a wonderful job producing this segment and helping us navigate all our questions and I really appreciate you. It's my pleasure. And Dan, you're fine too.

Thanks. Dan, thank you for getting this HK or HK, 4K. There you go. HK, that's where I'm from, Hell's Kitchen. Oh yeah. Hey. All right, everybody, that's our show. Donald, do you have any final things you wanna tell all these lovely people?

Do you wanna thank them for tuning into our podcast? I do wanna thank them for tuning into our podcast. I also wanna thank Billy Dee Williams for being such a wonderful guest. Thank you very much. I feel like I know you more than I've ever known you before. And we are honored.

We know that you're 87 and you don't have to suffer fools. And yet you suffered our fooldom. Our foolishness. I wish fooldom was a word. It can be, it is now. I mean, who says it isn't? You just made it up. Do you want to come with me and Johnny C

to the Rangers game tomorrow night? I know someone who can get you in. I thought you were gonna ask me something completely different. What did you think I was gonna say? Do you want. I thought you were gonna ask me something completely different. What did you think I was gonna say? Do you wanna come with me to Johnny's? Do I wanna come? And I was gonna say absolutely.

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