Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Zach Cherry, Do a Flip Severance Guy

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

Zach Cherry found fame in an odd way, he had a single line in a Spider-Man film and became an overnight success. Of course, things always look different on the inside. Zach and Donald discuss whether or not his second appearance in the MCU is conncected to his first. Plus we talk all things Severance. The Apple TV+ show has gained a huge following since it's first season, and for Zach it was an immersion in working with some of the greatest talents in Hollywood. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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podcasts. It's a grim, sorry audience, we're recording on January 30th, that horrible plane crash occurred last night. I was headed to do this podcast and I just felt so heavy. So I think it's better to say that it's on our minds rather than try and ignore it. Yeah. I hear that. It's tragic, man. Oh my than try and ignore it. Yeah. I hear that. That's, it's tragic, man. Oh my God, and the fires, sorry, audience.

We're gonna pivot to not be talking about tragedy in a second, but it's just, it's really overwhelming with the fires and so many people we know here in LA, lost everything. It just, it's just like, it was like, oh, now there's a plane crash. And it just feels really like I was like now there's a plane crash and just just feels really really scary time

Joel will you say a prayer? But can you lead us in a non secular prayer I do got this. Join your peers. Align, resist, fight back, organize. Find peace where you can. I find peace where I can in my foster dog. That's where I find my joy in my foster pit bull.

He's a cute one. Sorry, my adopted pit bull, who's now longer a foster, but she brings me joy. I find my joy in my family and my animation, you know, in Star Wars. Yes, I saw a video, I know you saw it too, I think I sent it to you, and it looked like the happiest man in the world. And he is the happiest man in the world.

He had a Star Wars room that must have, looks like it costs to decorate with all his $100,000. Not even close. More? Less. Okay, well anyway, it was the most tricked out Star Wars room. He was sitting at his Star Wars table,

building Star Wars Legos, watching Star Wars. Watching the Empire Strikes Back. And he was like, it reminded me of you. I was like, that would be Donald's happy place. If someone could just leave him alone. Yeah. To be in his Star Wars room building Star Wars legos, watching the Empire Strikes Back.

Yeah. And his wife, I assume, was filming him being like, look at my man in his happy place. Yeah, I think she was trying to make fun of him, but you can't make fun of him. Oh, really? What made you think that? Well, because in a county- She let him build that fucking room.

She must've been quite supportive. Yeah, but that's because she loves him. That's the only reason why. My wife makes so much fun of me for having- Really? She calls you a blerd? Well, she calls me other names. Blerd isn't one of them, but you know.

She, you know, but she's very supportive of my Star Wars addiction, because it really is an addiction. Like if a toy comes out, I'm on the internet already, like, okay, let me see. By the way, I'm supportive. Do you know how many things I DM Donald that are Star Wars related?

Because now the algorithm thinks I like this shit. Yeah. Yeah. And I have no interest in any of this shit. I love it. But the algorithm, because I send every wacky Star Wars thing to Donald, thinks that I'm into it.

So I get all this shit. You know, I'm so addicted to Star Wars that I watch YouTube videos about theories on Star Wars. Like I watch New Rock Star. Shout out, what's his name? Voss? Eric Voss. Eric Voss.

I watch freaking Screen Crush. What's that dude's name? Fre Eric Voss. Eric Voss. I watch freakin' Screen Crush. What's that dude's name? Freakin'... Ryan Aries. Yo, dude. I sent you a deleted scene from Star Wars that got sent to me. Which one? And I had seen it already. I'm sure you've seen it already. Tell Joelle which scene it was.

Because I didn't watch it. It's when Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker are fighting in Cloud City on the platform. And there's this whole dialogue after he says, the force is strong with you, young Skywalker, but you are not a Jedi yet. And they're fighting. And Luke is doing some really dope moves. And Vader's like, yeah, come on, that's what I want, pretty much. Take your revenge, I destroyed your family. And they cut that out of the movie, thank goodness, because it would have been a weird turn when he says,

no, I am your father. Is that the extra dialogue they wrote so they could do the ADR, because they didn't do that on set, right? The I am your father. No, it wasn't. Well, the extra dialogue comes after he gets his hand chopped off.

This is literally when they're fighting where Han Solo has just been frozen and says, I know, to Leia. They're fighting in that area. Got it. You know, in the orange room with the orange lit up floor. We do the silhouette shot.

And it just... It just... just so so should face that face. I don't have a snore button on the on the panel. So I don't know what you're trying to get into. What they assume and what you're trying to do. What are you trying to get into? You know, I'm trying to get into a lot of things. May we're doing next Friday. I Man, we're doing next Friday. I know what we're doing next Friday. Do you know,

are we allowed to talk about what we're doing? Well, why not? We can say, uh, we're going to drop another T-Mobile commercial on Friday. Let's go. Well, it doesn't drop one Friday. We shoot. Sorry. What's the, we shoot on Friday, Donald. We're going to drop it. We're not going to drop it. We're going to record it. We're going to record it. We're gonna film it. Yeah.

And it's very funny. Have you read it yet? I haven't received anything. If you have it, I'd love to see it. Well, I'll send it to you, Donald. I have it. That'd be nice. Is this for the Super Bowl?

Very funny. It's not for the bowl, unless the universe decides that it's so effing funny. They would have to turn that shit around so quick. Well, when's the bowl? Not this weekend, but next weekend. Well, anything's possible. That's probably not possible.

No. I got invited to go to this thing tonight, the Fire Aid concert. I'm deciding whether I should go, but let me tell you who's playing at the Intuit Dome. Ooh. Ooh. I mean, there's people playing also at the Kia Forum. Where's the Kia Forum? Across the street, I think, there's people playing also with the Kia Forum. Where's the Kia Forum?

Across the street, I think. It's the old forum, the felt forum. Yeah, it's the old great Western Forum. So I guess they, oh, cause there's so many acts they put them in tune next door arenas. The forum has been turned into pretty much a concert hall. It's made for concerts now, whereas before it was real-life-ish way to do stuff.

I'm invited to sit in the Intuit Dome, so I would see live Billie Eilish, Earth, Wind & Fire, Gracie Abrams, Jelly Roll, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Lil Baby, Olivia Rodrigo, Pesso Pluma, Rod Stewart, Stevie Wonder, Sting, and Tate McCray. Okay, that sounds amazing. What a lineup. Who's playing at the Forum?

And at the Forum, you got Alanis Morris, Seth Anderson, Pac, John Mayer, Dawes, Graham Nash, Green Day, John Fogarty, Joni Mitchell, No Doubt, Pink, Red Hut, Chili Pepper, Steven Stills, Stevie Nicks, and the Black Crows. Okay, I'm not gonna say anything rude about what's going on at the forum. No, I would rather be at the Intuit.

Intuit. All right, that's the one I've been invited I would rather be at the Intuit. That's the one I've been invited to. Yeah, but we're... I haven't been invited to that one, guys. I don't have an option to go to the Trosses Tree. We won't get excited about that one. Should I go? You should go.

Good cause, good performers. Well, obviously the cause is great and I would... Are you in a suite? I don't know. I'll tell you what the fella wrote me. Do you want to hear what the fella wrote me? I'd love to hear it. Please. The fella wrote me, um, got you some great floor seats by the stage.

Two. Two. Okay. Also would love it if you can quickly do the carpet before all just to raise awareness for donations to the cause. The after party will be quote, off the hook. Okay, bring a lady friend. Anyway, I'll probably go, I guess.

I have to figure out who's worthy of bringing in terms of like, do I bring a date to that? I think you should bring a date. That sounds like a fun time to take. I mean, it sounds like a fun time to spend with a date. Right, I'm just not sure who I would bring to that. Can I ask Casey? Yeah, I mean, you know.

Zach, I love you. Zach, I love you. She might enjoy that. Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, I love you. Zach, I love you. She might enjoy that. Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, I love you. Yeah, I mean, is she, do you think she'd be down to be my date? I mean, I'm sure she'd be down to go with you as a friend.

Oh, for fuck's sake, just stop talking about your willies. And I'm confused on why you pressed that button. Because I was gonna start talking about my willy. Whoa. And my wife? No, no, no. Unrelated. Unrelated. That's what I'm talking about. I'm just having fun with the sound machine

because I realize I haven't really used it in a while. Everybody likes a little ass play. Don't even act like you don't. Yeah. I mean, some of these buttons have not been appreciated in a very long time. Fuck your sound effects machine. Well, let's stick with that one for now. How about that? That's your favorite one.

Or is this your favorite one? Eat these balls. Eat, eat, eat, eat, eat. You know what my favorite one is? What's your favorite one? Do or do not. There is no try. Oh, let me hit that for you, baby girl.

Where is that fucking thing? Do or do not. There is no try. You know, my favorite one is. That sounds like Yoda no try. You know, my favorite one is. That sounds like Yoda, bro. You know, my favorite one is. Zach and Donald are gay newlyweds in house arrest. Donald, did you watch any of the show that Zach Cherry is on? It's called. I've seen some of the stuff. I saw the stop motion episode. That's all you watched. Well, that's all I really care about. Really? Severance is good AF, dude. Sever of the stuff. I saw the stop motion episode. That's all you watched. Well, that's all I really care about. Really? No, no, no.

Good AF. Do you? Severance is amazing. I know. I get that. I do not. I do not watch television like I'm starting to watch squid game for the first time. And that shit is fire. Holy shit. But we're not having a squid game guy on our show today. We're having the guy from severance on our show today.

I know. And he's a very funny guy. And- Very funny. You know, that whole cast is actually pretty funny. Adam Scott is really funny. I need Gillian Turecki to guide us through a conversation. Why, are you upset? Yes. Really?

Yes. Because I don't watch Severance? No, because I asked you last night to make sure you at least watch the pilot because we were having the star of the show on. I know the premise of the show though already and I know who he is. That's all good. I just wish Gillian Turecki was here to lead us through a conversation. You know, I just don't... I want to know the man, not necessarily the work. Okay. Let's put it that

way. All right. Well, hopefully, Joelle and Dan will have watched the show. Big old fan. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm caught up. No, I was doing- The one with fallout. I was about to say, are you a fan of him because of fallout or because of sever you a fan of him because of Fallout or because of Severance? Discovered him because of Severance, fell in love with him on Fallout. He's also one of my favorite new guests on a different podcast to listen to. What's that podcast?

It's called Doughboys. It's a podcast about fast food restaurants and he is a all time new guest. He's great. Is he really knowledgeable about fast food? Yeah, he is. And I didn't know about this because I didn't watch, um, Spider-Man movies, but in Spider-Man homecoming, he got quite famous because he said do a flip Spider-Man. And then he does the back flip.

And that kind of made him like a viral hit as the street vendor. I want to ask him about that. Because I have a trivia question for him. I wanna know what he did to get into Marvel movies, man. Like I'm trying to crack that code like every other actor in Hollywood who hasn't been in one. I'm trying to crack that Star Wars code too, like every other actor who hasn't been in one. I'm trying to crack that Star Wars code too, like every other actor who hasn't been in one.

Jude Law just did it. And Jude Law did a great job in fucking Skeleton Crew. I want to crack that code, crack that code. Let's get a chant going. No? No? What is Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings? That is a Marvel movie.

That is also a Marvel property. Oh, okay. Was that popular? That shit was fire, dude. Do you even see, you didn't see Shang-Chi? I don't really want to kill him. Oh my gosh. Yes, that, I mean, that boy does his own stunts too.

And so if you want to see something really cool, just watch the behind the scenes of Shang-Chi. And this boy is literally jumping on a bus, swinging, doing flips. Like, I mean, I used to be able to do that. Well, Zach was also in that movie, in a cameo, and there were some questions about whether it was the same guy.

Was it the street fender? Well, Shang-Chi takes place in San Francisco. Oh, so the street fender would have had to move to San Francisco. From New York, from Queens to San Fran. I see. No, move to San Francisco. From Queens to San Fran. No, thank you. Ma'am. Time to play.

Ma'am, no, she's barking at the next-door neighbor's gardener. But you're not supposed to admonish them. You're supposed to say, no, thank you. Because you still want them to guard. But you want to be like, hey, I got this. We're good. That's just a gardener. Also, apparently dogs can't understand yelling. Like if you're just yelling you want to be like, hey, I got this. We're good. That's just so apparently dogs can't understand yelling like if you're just

yelling, they're just like, oh, you're loud and maybe they can't process what you're trying to tell them. When you when you when they're barking and you yell at them, when you're when they're barking and you yell at them, they think you're barking along with them. I'll be telling my dog, shut the fuck up.

The trainer would tell you that's not the most effective thing. That shit works every time. I'm going to try and train this dog so well. I'm really going to put in the effort to have this. I've already got go to your bed when she's when it's feeding time and she races to her bed. It's really cute.

Oh, man. I'm really proud of that one. I love a pit. You should be. I caught up on the pit, Zach. Oh, and you went to show up on the pit Zach Tonight of the pit I'm so I was so mad when I ran out of episodes and said I can't only be four out What is happening? It's really great

So I'd already seen the pilot and you I loved it But I just hadn't gone back to catch up and now I was like, well, let me just answering emails Let me just pop it on in the background two hours. I have to turn this off because it requires my full attention. It's fun. Yeah, you can't. That's not a show you can be on your phone. No. You've got to really pay attention. That is not second screen viewing. I would say from a medical show prosthetics and makeup are so fabulous and they're just really good and kind of gross, but then the emotional impact is wonderful.

I already realized that ER couldn't have been as graphic as they are because it was a network show, whereas this show, they don't hide the gore. I mean, there's moments where it's super gory, like with that foot, but I just had that realization when I was watching it, like, wow, this is so realistic looking. And whoever's in charge of the prosthetics and the special effects makeup is just 100.

It's so intense and so realistic. But I had that thought that, oh, they couldn't do this on ER because it's network TV. Yeah, yeah. I'm blown away at the way they're able to manage so many characters moving so consistently. And that's kind of a trope of medical TV where you have a lot of doctors and a lot of moving parts and new patients. But because this is all taking place in one day across the season, hour to hour, you're so much more invested in these folks.

And it's just genuinely brilliant and heartbreaking and lovely and inspiring. And it's a great show. It's wonderful TV Yes, Donald do the do the days connect or is it just random days? No, it's one day one day season the whole Season is yes. The whole season is is his 15-hour shift. He's he's the lead doctor on this ER ward in Pittsburgh and I'm the lead doctor on this ER ward in Pittsburgh. And he's got medical students and residents and interns and nurses, and he oversees everything. And the waiting room is,

there's not a seat left in the waiting room. It's all packed. And this is like a typical 15 hour shift. And- So 15 episodes total. Yeah. And it's not, you know, what I like about it, it's all believable. You know, when it went with ER, even though I only didn't really watch it, but it got it's not, you know, what I like about it, it's all believable. You know, when it went with ER,

even though I only didn't really watch it, but it got to be like, you know, how could all of these crazy things happen? This is all intense, but I think it's completely believable in that all of these things would happen in a typical 15 hour shift in a busy ER. Cause 24 was not believable at all.

That was the most unbelievable show ever in the history. This motherfucker would get shot, and then two episodes later, he's fine and running and shit. It's like, nigga, you just got shot two hours ago. What the fuck? They better not do that on this show. That's all I know. I never watched 24. I feel like something big is going to happen though.

That's all I know. I never watched 24. I feel like something big is gonna happen though. Well, I feel like they're laying foundation for something big to occur, I feel like. In the mid season, in the middle of the season. Well, they started off with this big revelation that this doctor's mentor passed on this day, and it's been multiple years

since he worked this specific day, and he's really struggling to keep his composure throughout the day. And so as that tension ramps up, you're like, is he gonna break? Is he gonna be okay? Like you're very, I'm just, I'm like, someone please check in.

Can I tell you a theory that Danil can beep out and you just share your reaction? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Danil, do you watch the show or no? No, not yet. You should watch it. Donald, you should watch it. I know you won't. All right, just beep this out.

But I have a theory that... Whoa. I am not emotionally prepared for that, Zach, but they are really... Like, they went really hard and... Wait, but wait. But don't, don't, don't, don't... Don't go...

We just beat that. No, no, no, no, no. So don't go to the spoiler, but don't you think that that would be an insane possibility? I think it would break my heart But this show seems very concerned about the emotional and mental health of us as a country and that is an Quintessential element of our emotional health and so it seems appropriate that they venture down that way, but I've just not I'm not ready Can we get Noah

We've sent out requests so I'm waiting to hear back Oh God, is that piss form? I can't, oh my God. Can we get Noah? We've sent out requests, so I'm waiting to hear back. I really want Noah Wiley. Since this podcast has become an ad for The Piss, I really would love to get Noah Wiley on the show. Another reason I want to talk to Noah Wiley is that he's just, you know, there's so many incredible actors that you go, oh yeah, what happened to them?

And I don't really know what happened. I'm sure Noah Wiley's been working, and I'm sure he's been raising. He's worked quite a bit, actually. Yeah, he's done. I know, I know. I'm just saying, he hasn't been on my radar. That's all I'm saying. I love him as an actor, always have.

He hasn't been on my radar. I'm sure he's working, I'm sure he has a family, all the things. But I'm just so happy that he's front and center and starring in a great show again, because he's so talented. Yes, Daniel. We have. Seconds arrived.

All right, let him in So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our, Scrubs Rewatch show with Zach and Dono. I haven't slept, I'm having a hard time sleeping man, last night kind of fucked me up. Can't even see you. Between Squid Game and fucking- Maybe it's because your lights are all off. No, bro. I'm going to send you a ring light for Christmas.

I'd like that actually. Do you need a ring light, Dono? You don't have a ring light? I thought you had a ring light for Christmas I'd like that actually do you need a ring light? All right, what up big Zach howdy how's it going man howdy That is I just need a second to finish your ring light conversation You can barely see Donald. I really would like to be able to see it. I can see how I can barely see Yeah, well, I See me in y'all get you know what? It's not gonna look like that when you my producer Joelle Monique is offering to send him a ring light, and I know Donald well enough

to know that that ring light will not leave the cardboard box. Yeah, well I'll use it on my animation, that's all. Yeah. Zach, welcome to the show. I'll use it for stop motion. Zach, what up? Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Aloha. Aloha as well to you. Zach, we're so happy to have you, man. We have been obsessively talking about severance like so many people, and I'm just, I'm really so happy for you, man. You were on a giant monster hit of a TV show. Thanks, thanks.

I'm very excited. I'm huge fans of both of yours, so this is truly kind of surreal. We appreciate you. We appreciate you, man. We were just talking about, before we get to Severance, I just wanna talk for a second about the Spider-Man do a flip thing,

because I have a trivia question for you that not a lot of people would get unless you're a film geek. Is the man standing next to you, Radio Man? My answer is I think so, but I need you to provide more context for who is Radio Man. So I got it.

Okay, I just thought it might be an obvious yes, but it probably is. All right, so for anyone who works in film in New York City. In New York City. Did you shoot in New York City? That scene? Yes. Okay, there's a guy named Radio Man, who I believe was the inspiration for Robin Williams in what, that scene? Okay, there's a guy named Radioman, who I believe was the inspiration for Robin Williams

in what's that movie? Jamal help me, he's a homeless person. Come on man, I like New York in June, how about you, the Fisher King. Fisher King, and he is a very unique individual. He is obsessed with movies. Well not just movies, he's obsessed with cameras and lights. Yes, production.

For TV shows, films, and he shows up to sets. He is always carrying a radio. A bike and a radio, I thought. He rides a bicycle. He has a radio around his neck. People often think he's a homeless person, but I believe he isn't, but he is a very interesting character.

Anyway, if you talk to him, he knows everyone's names, he shows up on sets, and a lot of directors know him, a lot of actors know him, because he's on every set in New York, and they give him cameos. And so he's in lots and lots of films. He's in my film, Going in Style. He's in many, many, many films.

You can Google this if you're confused and this isn't making sense. Just Google Radio Man, New York City. But when I was watching that clip of you, there's a guy that looks a lot like him holding a radio. And I said, I think that's Radio Man. So I do have an answer. And it's actually a maybe even a deeper dive trivia fact.

It is not Radio Man. It's a guy named Kirk Thatcher, who he appears in a Star Trek movie as the same character he appears in my Spider-Man clip as a guy holding a boombox. And he's like, I think he has something to do with the Henson Company. He worked with, he's directed a bunch of commercials with Muppets and he was telling me on set about directing like Miss Piggy and stuff like that.

Also a really interesting guy also has ties to a radio, but I believe a different gentleman. Okay. That's bizarre. But any whoever cast him definitely said, showed him a picture of Radio Man and said, be like this. Cause that's who Radio Man is. But that must've been crazy. I just watched your segment on Colbert where you were very funny going to Comic-Con.

How did that come about? And were you surprised when that little tip went so viral? Zach, how did you crack the code? Tell us how you cracked the code. Don't want to be in a Marvel movie really badly. There are so many actors like yourself who want to crack the code and you did it. What is it?

What did you do? Give me your knowledge, Zach. I have no idea. I was shocked. I mean, it was like really exciting to get to do that, that tiny little thing, but then it has been surprising, A a the level of response I got and be the staying power where I still get people who will Yell do a flip to me just like randomly the Colbert thing came about

also sort of randomly where I Was performing at the UCB theater in New York at the time? And I think the Colbert writers just had an idea for a segment. They didn't have me in mind in particular, but they had an idea of they wanted to send someone who was a small character in a Marvel project to Comic-Con and really have them pretend that they were very important. And so the artistic director emailed me and was like, this kind of seems like, you're the guy for this. And I was like, yeah, absolutely.

And it was very surprising and strange to have the entire sort of like Colbert mechanism operating behind me because of this one line basically that I said in a Spider-Man movie. Well, you were the perfect person. Because of your UCB background, I thought you were riffing with all those people, and you were so funny. I mean, I was like, I want to see more segments of this.

Like, I'd watch more of this. Man on the street. They definitely wanted someone who had, like, an improv background for it. But your character now has its own, like, there are people who are creating your character's own backstory and stuff like that. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, and you could connect it to Shang-Chi also, you know what I mean? Is that the same character? Are people ruminating that that's the same guy? Yeah, yeah. And the truth is, I don't know if it is the same guy. Because they're so, you know, they keep things so under wraps.

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And Kira, we are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haves, and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower. Or just people we like. Plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, brads, and chads. Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle Wee, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baleotis.

So, if you want to keep up with us and here's your app, tune into our new podcast. Listen to Quiet Please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. ["I Heart Women's Sports"] Well, tell us about Severance, please, because it's so crazy and unique. And what was your, well, just first tell us,

what was your audition process like? How did it come about that you got cast by, you know, Ben Stiller for this incredible show? For that, I sent in a tape, and I think Ben had maybe seen, I think he had seen, I'm in one episode of Succession, like sort of very briefly, and I think he had seen that

and had seen some of my other kind of comedy stuff. So I sent in a tape for the part and then got brought in in person with him and Dan Erickson who are the, who's the creator of the show. And Ben sort of just had me like, again, my improv background came into effect where he was like, let's kind of like play around with the scene and riff a little bit because I think he was looking to, you know, he always wanted the show to have a little bit of I think he was looking to, you know, he always wanted the show to have a little bit of an office comedy feel to it, especially in the segments

in the office in that first season. So I think he kind of wanted to just, you know, see what that would be. And then our show has historically long processes where the first season we were about to go into production and then COVID happened and then our second season was interrupted by the strikes and everything but so after auditioning it took quite a while to actually to get in there and get started but as soon as we did it was like oh I think we're making something really cool and weird. It's funny I have a funny story I was sent the pilot to read, to audition

for the part that Adam got and is incredible at and is so, so brilliant in, but I didn't really understand it. I remember reading it and being like, I don't know if I could do this because I don't really know what's happening. When you first read it, were you like, what? It's very hard to describe what the show is.

It is very hard to describe. I like pretty quickly liked it and was like, oh, I think this is my kind of show. Like I think this is something I would love to watch. But as we were making it and then before the first season was coming out, it was really hard to describe it to like friends or anyone and be like, well, it's like, it was really hard to describe it to friends or anyone and be like, well, it's kind of a sci-fi show, but only a little bit. And it is funny, but it's also scary. And it is kind of hard to pin down.

But I knew I liked the vibe of it. Yeah. You guys have just incredible chemistry. I mean, the four of you together. And I feel like you do have a lot of the laughs. I feel like you're kind of like the comic relief to everybody else's straight men. Yeah, I think we do have a really fun chemistry

and dynamic, and a lot of that I do think came from the unusual circumstances of the first season of, we were like one of the first shows back when COVID happened. So it was this very weird time of like, you know, you were in masks and you also had these face shields that you wore around your neck. Like a dog, you know, those collars, dogs. Yeah, like it was, it was very strange.

And the only people who would ever take their masks off were the actors in the scenes. So like we would go all day only seeing each other's faces, you know, so. Yeah, you don't see the crew at all. At all, it was very strange. But I do think that kind of helped accelerate our sort of comfort level and like intimacy

because it was really weird. But it's also such a great group that I Think it's like that also makes it easy It's such a great group of performers and also people everyone is like really fun to be around and it's great It's my I'm so lucky Zack do you remember the kovat times when you were working on sets and didn't know what, like you could run into people from work at a bar and not know who the fuck they were because they had masks on all the time.

Do you remember that? Like I'm sure Zach, I'm sure Zach Graf too, I'm sure you both remember this time. Oh yeah, we need a nomenclature for what Zach Graf. Zach Graf and Zach Cherry both know. Yeah, that was really weird. I remember directing something right in the beginning of COVID where they,

where everyone had the, yeah, like Zach's saying, not only have a mask, but have a face shield. And then only the actor could, I mean, what a surreal, crazy time that was. Yeah, it was a nutty time, bro. Did you guys have to stop in the middle of shooting too? Did people get COVID when you were shooting, Zach? I mean, what a surreal, crazy time that was. Yeah, it was a nutty time, bro. And, uh... Did you guys have to stop in the middle of shooting, too? Did people get COVID when you were shooting, Zach?

Uh, I don't think we had any, like, full-on shutdowns. We got pretty lucky. Um, but like you were saying, I do remember not only not recognizing people, but when you did finally see their face, I would have invented a whole different face under their mask.

Just like, and that's what I thought they looked like. And then they take their mask off and you'd be like, oh, okay. You're not. I was way off. Yeah. You're not the person who I've been having conversations with. Yeah. I remember I had a first AD I was working with for a long time and I just never saw the

bottom. I didn't ever saw anything but his eyes. And then I saw him without his mask. I was like, oh, that's not, that was not my guess. No surprise mustaches showing up and yeah. I wanna ask you about the set. Is the set for this show enormous? Because if it's not, they sure do make it seem

endless and enormous. And is it an homage to THX? That I don't know. That would be a question for for Dan and Ben It is pretty enormous like the hallways there are a lot of hallways Even more even more this season than last season, but it's also It's like a labyrinth where all the hallways sometimes it'll be a doorway and then sometimes they'll put in a wall there

or sometimes you could get around this way, but then now, you know, so it's always moving and changing kind of like, you know, it really, it is sort of disorienting, like being in the office on the show. It really helps you be like, where the fuck am I? I can't fathom how they put that all together because I want to point the audience

to the opening shot of season two, which if you're just watching the show, you might go, wow, that's cool, but go watch a video on YouTube about how they executed it. I mean, it's hard to describe what they did. And I saw, and I was so interested because I'm a film geek. I saw an interview with Ben

and talking about how they shot this opening shot over the course of about five months or so. The whole time they were working on the show, they would just get little bits. But it's all made to look like a oner with these stitches you can't see. Some of it's a robotic arm. Some of it's running with a tiny little Sony FX3. It's all these techniques that they used, but they, and a lot of it's effects

and Adam running on a treadmill and just all this stuff, but it's stitched together so seamlessly that it looks like this epic oner. Is this the shot where his face kind of shakes and then he starts running through the hallways and stuff like that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck yeah, man.

It's really- And I will say say while we were shooting the season, I don't think I really knew that they were shooting that over the course of so many months. So there were days where I would just come in and Adam would be running on a treadmill and I would be like, what is happening here? I did not know that they were like working all on that one, that one shot basically.

It's so incredible. I mean, the show is beautifully photographed. that they were like working all on that one shot basically. It's so incredible. I mean, the show is beautifully photographed. It had every, like the framing and Ben and your DPs. Does Ben direct every episode or no? He directs, he directed five of the 10 in season two and I think six of the nine in season one. So he directs about half.

Quite a bit. Well, everyone creating the look in addition to the wonderful actors, but the look, the way it's shot, the cinematography and just really cool, unique choices. And anyone who's interested in film, first of all, watch Severance, but also check out that shot

because it's just kind of like groundbreaking, I thought, in how you can hide stitches in these days and make things look like the camera never cut. I mean, it's just really of like groundbreaking, I thought, in how you can hide stitches in these days and make things look like the camera never cut. I mean, it's just really, really cool. Zach, did you have a favorite? I read that ILM worked on that. Sorry, go ahead, Dalin, you need to see Zach Braff or Zach Cherry.

Zach Cherry, did you have a favorite Ben Stiller project before auditioning for this? I mean, a lot of them. I love Meet the Parents. I love Tropic Thunder I also I low-key even though I'm like a little too old for this I love the night at the museum movies like they they came out when I was already like You know, this isn't for me necessarily, but the scenes with him in that little monkey are our particular favorites for me. I have two movies that I love of his and not a lot of people say these movies one is flirting with disaster

Which I think is fucking a phenomenal movie and then he directed a movie with him when known a writer Oh my god, how am I forget Ethan Hawke? I forget, Ethan Hawke, Janine Garofalo. Reality Bites. Reality Bites. Oh, that's one of my favorites of his from back in the day. And then the cable guy also, man. Like, holy shit, dude, who knew? I mean, the dude's a genius though, man.

He's a comedic genius in a lot of ways and tells great stories. Was that in the back of ways and tells great stories. Was that in the back of your mind when you audition? Was that something that you were like, I gotta get this part because I know I'm gonna work with somebody who has a real voice in Hollywood? Yeah. I mean, it was definitely exciting.

And he's someone who I would say, comedically has had a big impact on me. You know, like I watched all of his stuff coming up as I was kind of like figuring out what I thought was funny. So it was, it was very, like pressure isn't the exact word, but it's sort of surreal. You're like, oh, here I am in this room with this guy who is like a part of my mental Makeup, you know and then for it to be on such a strange show that isn't really Necessarily a comedy all the time and is often not not at all It I do sometimes

When we're doing our sort of like serious stuff I do sometimes wish I could get to work with him on like one of his pure kind of silly comedies to see what he, you know, to see if he operates in the same way. But yeah, that was definitely in my mind as I was going through the whole process. I think what an honor though, when you put it like that, it's like, here's a guy who's, you know,

one of the most successful comic actor directors alive, and he chose you to be the comic relief of the show. That's pretty cool. It is. He his trust in me has been very, very meaningful, very cool, very, very exciting. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City, and Narcos, and Roadhouse, and so many commercials about back pain.

And now, I'm starting a podcast because honestly guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get Ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week, I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors, and writers, and comedians to tell them a buckwild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Zoe Chow. Titanic. Charles Manson.

Alcatraz. Asada Shakur. The sketchy guy named Steve. It's giving funny true crime. I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait. Listen and subscribe to Greatest Escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember what you said

the first night I came over here? Ow, goes lower? I met Santi at a luau party in October. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre. The guy just disappeared one day. Santi has been missing ever since.

The hookup. What is that? I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now? Like no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to... The hookup. You think it's causing people to turn aggro? I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to- Yeah, that's a word for it. You think it's causing people to turn aggro? I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to-

Yeah, that's a word for it. This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry. Poppers? These aren't just any poppers. Mama always used to say, God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex. No. My psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either. ["I Heart Radio App"] Listen to the hookup on the I Heart Radio App, No? My psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either.

Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives. Each week we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter.

And they're plus one, they'll ride or die, as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey. Listen to My Legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. This is My Legacy. Hey, this is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six time Lady Geo-Bean Tour winner. And Kira K. Dixon, NBC Sports reporter and host. You forgot to say All My Miss America, by the way.

And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please, with Mel. And Kira. We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps, and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower. Or just people we like. Plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, brads, and chads.

Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code, and we're not gonna be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle Wee, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baleotis. So, if you wanna keep up with us and here's your app, tune into our new podcast. Listen to Quiet Please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart women's sports production

in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. We watch your with Zach and Dano. Dano and Joelle, I know you're big fans of the show. Do you have any severance questions you'd like to ask Zach? He's not going to give you spoilers, just so you know. I might. You might. Oh, shit! Joelle to give you spoilers, just so you know. I might.

You might. Oh, shit. Joelle, do you want to go first? I definitely got one. But if you want to go first, please go first. I also have one. OK, yeah, I can go first. Thank you, Daniel.

I wanted to ask you, you have a big hero moment toward the end of season one. And I think for actors, getting moments like that is kind of rare and really juicy, unless you're like an action star and you're constantly fed those. And I wondered for you, you know, did you get a heads up about that or did you learn about it when you were reading this script? And then when you stepped in to perform it, did you feel any pressure? Was it different for you

for a different thing? I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't seen, but it's like a very epic, cool moment. That's sort of everything that's been built up in the seeds and hinges on. Sure. Yeah. I mean, you know, the really cool thing about this show for me, especially as someone who has sort of, my bread and butter has been like Spider-Man do a flip type roles where I pop in and I you know, say something silly and then I'm kind of out of there. It has been really cool on this show to get to do more than that. So I do still get to have a lot of fun and have a lot of funny stuff going on, but they really have like allowed me to show some different sides of things. I've just never been asked to do before. And yeah that moment was

I think I knew about it pretty early on, and it was cool and exciting. And then the process of shooting it was a little difficult, because it's like, it's a situation that my character is exhibiting a lot of endurance. That's what I'll say. A non-spoilery way of talking about it. And like, obviously, I didn't have to really be there for the entire time, but it did, I didn't have to really be there for the entire

time. But it did. I was extremely sore the next day. All right, Dale, are you going to ask your fast food question? That's what I want to know. No, I was telling the guys earlier that as well as a big fan of your appearance on all these TV shows, I'm a huge Doughboy fan and you are just, you know, a top tier guest already on the Not Rushmore of Doughboy. I appreciate that. But my question is- Sorry, Danil, sorry, but before you move on, Doughboys is about fast food.

Yes. And Zach, are you as fast food aficionado? I guess, honestly, yeah. I was gonna try. I was gonna try and say no, but by any real measure. What's your favorite, can we ask you? I know this isn't a fast food pie,

but what's your, like if your go-to, you can have any meal at any of the restaurants, what would it be? Taco Bell is for sure, for sure my go-to. I'm, a few years ago I started, I became vegetarian, and so Taco Bell is like the number, especially for vegetarians, the number one spot. That bean burrito, baby!

Yeah, that bean burrito. So far. They'll let you swap beans or potatoes for anything at Taco Bell. Oh! Yeah. So even if they're like, we have this chicken enchilada that only, the only, it's on the menu listed as chicken, you can go in there and put in beans exciting stuff for you vegetarians who want fast food a very customizable place

all right go ahead yeah my question was related to severance though so you know the image of the office in tv and media is like very well worn territory um and your role as the comic relief is is always one of the best parts of the kind of office setting. And my question for you is what parts of your character were inspired by other kind of office comics and what parts of your character do you think were original creation from you? That's a good question. You know, there was nothing I was like intentionally pulling from. question. You know, there was nothing I was like intentionally pulling from. Honestly, it was more. It was more just pulled from like a type of annoying guy that I know, you know, like.

Like, yeah, I think there's just there's certain types of guys who. Who just have a level of confidence that so outstrips their level of knowledge or really, you know, yeah, I just found that kind of interesting that this guy who, especially this character who literally is essentially a child, like he doesn't really know anything, but he's so sure of the things that he believes he knows. I just thought that was really fun to kind of play around with that. You just described me to a T. I don't really know anything, but I've been so passionate

about the things I believe right now. I mean, me too. I'm so passionate. It's funny because I've been watching The Office, and it's a funny thing to bounce back and forth between The Office and Severance I think that's what you're leading to, Daniel, is obviously completely different tones But there is overlap in some places that's pretty funny with them, cubicles

Yeah, and I'm sure that was intentional on on Ben and Dan's part Like I do know Ben has talked a lot about how he, he wanted to ground it in the like office sitcom world very much. Yeah, go ahead, Joel. I was gonna ask about having John Turturro as like a scene partner. I think he's like one of the all time greats. Like when you see like he's gonna be in a project,

you're like, oh, this is about to be elevated as hell. Like he's so funny, but he gets the drab stuff. And you guys have some really, like, both intense and comedic moments here. I think, like you, he's so good at swinging back and forth between, like, very intense drama and, like, hysterics. What's it like working with such an icon? Yeah, I mean, it's like so, I feel so lucky on this show

because John and Ben and Adam all have such a history of comedic chops, but also other things. So it's been really cool to kind of like, I don't know if they have taken me under their wing, but I've put myself under their wing. I think they've taken you under their wing. I wiggled my way under there. And I think John especially, I've just learned so much from about he's so prepared and he's

so professional, but he's also so good to be around on set and he takes care of everyone so well. It's been very amazing working with him. And with him in particular, I'm obsessed with the show Monk, which Jon appears on, but only in two and a half episodes. I was super geeked out about that and had to pretend I wasn't obsessive about it for a month. Then finally, I was like, hey Jon, I love the show Monk, man.

You have no idea. And I started talking to him about, there's all these novels that came out where his character continues on. And I was like, they wrote these books and you're care. And he was like, okay, thank you. I'm about to say, does he even remember, does he even remember being on Monk? I know of all his roles, you're like Monk. He definitely remembers being on it because I think him and Tony Shalhoub are close,

but he does not care about it as much as I do. Is he a lot like the character he plays? I've never met him, but I wonder if he, like Christopher Walken's a guy who I always, was in a similar place with, like I just adore him, and then I finally got to work with him, and I go, oh, it's kind of the same guy. I think definitely in some ways,

in the sense that like, you know, his character, there's like a gentleness about him. And I do think that Jon has that gentleness, which I don't, you know, a lot of his roles are not that gentle. A lot of his roles are, you know, sort of very different than that. But I do think that part of him is for sure in there.

He's so interesting to watch. You and I share something in common in that we both, well, I don't know how long ago you adopted a rescue pup. About a year ago, a little over a year ago. I just did myself. I foster failed. I thought I was gonna successfully foster and then I fell in love.

But how's that going for you? How's having a dog in the city? Are you, you're in Brooklyn or Bushwick? Yes, yeah Bushwick. Bushwick is Brooklyn. Okay, sorry. I wanna be able to bring my dog back and forth, but it's a tricky to have a dog in the city, isn't it?

Yeah, you know, and we also have other things in common. I thought, I didn't know what you were gonna say because we share the same name. I also grew up in New Jersey. Oh, I love you more. So the hits are just really adding up. Yeah, a Zach from Jersey with a rusty dog who's funny as fuck, just kidding. Cut the last part.

Why do you want to cut the last part? Well, I don't want to brag. I don't want to brag. Double it. Double down. It's, but it's, it's great. She's great. She, she came up from Kentucky is really all we know about her.

So it was like a big adjustment for her for sure. The noises of the city she was not a fan of. The people of the city she was not a fan of. The dogs of the city she was not a fan of. That's what I'm worried about is like the adjustment to like so much stimuli for my dog who'd be like, what the fuck is going on? You know, we've had her for a little over a year now

and it's like gotten so much better She now has a little group of dog friends that she sees every morning that she's so excited for and she doesn't She used to I mean I'm shocked. She's been asleep this whole time Six months ago It would have been impossible for me to do a podcast with her in the house because any noise She was like losing her shit. So the progress is, the proof is right here. My rescue pop is looking at me like,

if I could put subtitles under her face, it would be, I'm so fucking bored. I'm gonna do something. In some ways, that's a win. I know, but I feel like guilty because I like wanna, I realize this is not healthy and this is, I'd have to work on this if I was a parent, but I feel like guilty because I realize this is not healthy and I'd have to work on this if I was a parent, but it's like, I wanna be like,

am I being fun enough for you? I know we just went on a walk, but like, and I know I rescued you from a horrible existence, but like, should I be entertaining you more? I relate to that thoroughly, thoroughly. Yeah. How'd you come up with the name Shrek? You know, my wife and I, we've lived in this apartment for a while and for a long time, you know, we kind of weren't supposed to have pets.

And my wife had these two stuffed animals that I, without consulting with her, named Shrek and Donkey. Um. Um. And I would just be like, hey, that's Shrek and that's Donkey. And then, eventually we started kind of joking that when we did get pets, we would name the first two,

no matter what they were, Shrek and Donkey. And we followed through on that. So. You have a Donkey? We don't have a Donkey yet. Someday. Someday Donkey will appear. Well, Zach donkey? We don't have a donkey yet. Someday, someday donkey will appear. Well, Zach, thank you for taking the time, man.

I'm so happy for you. You made me laugh a lot. I've seen your work before. And then when I saw that you got this big show, I was just really happy for you. And I haven't, I'm not caught up yet, but I was watching the first episode of season two and just laughing at everything you said.

And I was like, this show is so interesting and I'm so happy for you that you get to be the comic relief and you're really, really great on it. Thank you so much. And truly, I'm not joking, I'm such huge fans both of yours. Scrubs is one of my just like rewatch rotation shows. So this is truly very, very surreal and exciting to be here. Thank you.

And if we do a reboot and Severance is over, maybe you'll come play with us and be funny. Even if it's not over, just come hang out for like a couple of episodes. Absolutely. Come to a little arc or something. Yeah. Absolutely. That'd be amazing. Zach Cherry, everybody, check out Severance.

If you're not watching Severance, what's going on with you? Get Apple TV, let's go. It's really interesting. Apple TV, really interesting. And that's it. Thanks, dude. Thank you. Hi, I'm Arturo Castro. And I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Road House and so many commercials about back pain. And now, I'm starting a podcast because honestly guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get Ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history.

Each week, I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buckwild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Zoe Chow. Titanic. Charles Manson. Alcatraz.

Asada Shakur. The sketchy guy named Steve. It's giving funny true crime. I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait. Listen and subscribe to Greatest Escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How goes lower?

I met Santi at a luau party in October. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre. The guy just disappeared one day. Santi has been missing ever since. The hookup. What is that? I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now?

Like, no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to... The hookup. You think it's causing people to turn aggro? I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to- Yeah, that's a word for it. This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry. Poppers? These aren't just any poppers. Mama always used to say, God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex.

No? My psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either. Listen to The Hook Up on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

Each week, we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter. And their plus one, their ride or die, as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey. Listen to My Legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is my legacy. We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps, and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower. Or just people we like. Plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, brads, and chads. Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or

off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle Wee, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baleotis. So, if you want to keep up with us and here's your app, tune into our new podcast. Listen to Quiet Please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. He's so talented. Very, very talented. He rules. And he's just so naturally funny. You know, he's just like... I like that when people don't have to put on a character or anything like that, just can be themselves and talk, you know what I mean?

He looks like he'd be a really fun guy to hang out with and just watch TV and joke. Yeah. And eat Taco Bell. And eat Taco Bell. I can't believe he's a vegetarian who eats Taco Bell. I mean, I know you can have beans, but it's still bizarre. What other fast food places can you eat as a vegetarian?

Burger King. Not a lot, but I will say, you know, it's one of the best. Taco Bell is definitely one of the best for serving vegetarian guests. I remember I haven't eaten in fucking decade, probably, but I remember thinking of bean and cheese burrito was pretty fantastic from Taco Bell. It's delicious. It's still delicious. It's a magnificent hangover cure. You don't need the beef. You don't need any of that stuff. Just get the bean and cheese burrito.

Yeah, the beef is so sketch. I don't know. Oh, you don't get me wrong. My problem with fast food really is I stopped eating gluten. So I can't really eat any of the buns or anything. And, but I could probably eat a flour tortilla from Taco Bell. When's the last time you had an In-N-Out burger, bro? I just, you know, I stopped eating gluten

and now when you eat gluten, if you stop, it's even worse. I just get it. I know I'm gonna get a stomach ache and cramps and feel horrible. So there's some like, sorry, what's that other fancy one? Shake Shack. Shake Shack. Shake Shack has a gluten-free bun that's not too shabby. So I can have Shake Shack.

In and out, I think I've gone and gotten the, they do a lettuce wrap. A lettuce wrap. A protein style. Don't get me wrong, I love the fast food burger every now and then, but when you know you're gonna get a stomach ache from the bun, it sucks. So it's not worth it.

I remember you were a huge ice cream fan. Can you still do that? Your ice cream's not gluten, baby girl. But it's lactose. Doesn't go in there. I don't have a dairy problem. Oh, okay. I'll fuck up a milkshake.

You kidding me? I'm just trying to say. That's when I was, my hangover treat would be Shake Shack, like a double Shake Shack with a double burger with a double stack with a shake. They have like an Oreo cookie and shit. Hmm. Hell yeah. I'm getting a boner. Whoa. Word. Whoa. Right. Look, as my shirt would say, word.

I'm trying to, I'm trying to like eat healthy now, but as I'm like talking about Shake Shack, I'm getting all worked up. I'm getting to eat healthy now, but as I'm talking about Shake Shack, I'm getting all worked up, I'm getting hot and bothered. Should we talk OnlyFans? Why do you wanna talk about OnlyFans? Because I'm really thinking that maybe... You're thinking about doing an OnlyFans for real, not just a bit. I need to raise some money for this animated short.

I thought it was a bit, but you're serious. We, listen, after watching- How about your feet? Just show your feet. Well, my feet are gnarly, dude. Oh my God. Yeah, somebody's gonna be into that. Somebody's gonna be into my jacked up feet?

People love feet. They love those toesies. Joel, did you get any more callers about Donald's OnlyFans? Because that guy from last week was hilarious. And I wondered if you get any more callers about Donald's OnlyFans? Because that guy from last week was hilarious. And I wondered if you got any more inputs. He actually reached out to me on social and was like, I would absolutely love to come on. So I'm plotting and scheming and planning to bring him in.

Yeah, would you have him on? Yeah, of course. Not a full segment, but I'd like to do like 10 minutes with him about what he would do if he was watching Donald on social. No, not what he would do. We don't have to go that far into it. I would love to hear that.

I would like to know what I would need to do to have a successful OnlyFans where I don't have to show Taint. He's gonna coach Donald through a successful OnlyFans. Yeah, oh yeah. He manages accounts. Yes. He manages accounts. I think it might hurt your acting career

if you have an OnlyFans. Who are the people that, I know that, who are the people that are famous like in the- That Australian rapper lady had a successful OnlyFans. And Andrea Di Matteo from Sopranos, I believe has a successful one. And- I know that lady who pretended she was black.

She pretended she was the head of the NAACP. I heard she has OnlyFans now. No. Rachel Dolezal? Yeah. Rachel Dolezal. How much you wanna bet? How much you wanna bet?

I think you're right. Yeah, I think you're right. Wow. Okay, Bella Thorne had an OnlyFans. Bella Thorne. Nicky Azalea. Amber Riggs. Nicky Azalea.

Bad Baddy, Black China. Okay. Black China. They all got OnlyFans? Yeah. Bad baddie, black China. Okay. Black China, Donald. They all got OnlyFans? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Or at one point had one. Donald, would Casey allow you to subscribe to OnlyFans?

I don't think so. Would she be pissed if you were spending money on OnlyFans? I think the moment I start spending money on my porn, she'd be like, what the fuck, dude? Right, she'd be pissed. That's unnecessary. Donald, just put it on the secret card. You're allowed to watch porn. I don't have a secret card. I'm allowed to watch porn, she'd be like, what the fuck, dude? Right. She'd be pissed. Unnecessary. You're allowed to watch. Card. You're allowed to watch. I don't have a secret card.

I'm allowed to watch porn. Yes. You're allowed to watch porn. She doesn't care about that. But if she saw the credit card, the only fans charges, she'd be pissed. Yeah. Like if I'm giving tips to. Right. If the credit card bill came through with only fans tips. She'd be like, what the fuck is this?

All right, yeah, I was wondering what the line was for your porn consumption. I can watch it. You can watch it. But not pay for it. Are you allowed to come out in the living room and be like, oh baby, I just watched the most insane video.

I sometimes say to her, I sometimes say, you know that move we did the other day? I got that from porn. And she'll be like, oh baby, I just watched the most insane video. I sometimes say to her, I sometimes say, you know that move we did the other day? I got that from porn. And she'll be like, oh really? And I'll be like, you want to do it right now? You want to practice it right now? And she goes, no.

Then I'll say something like, well, I'm going to go practice in the other room. I see. So you give her a chance before you watch porn. I give her a chance to- You give her a chance to step up. And if she doesn't step up, you're like, I'm gonna take care of it.

Yeah, do you wanna play fantasy? No? Okay, well, I'm gonna practice some of the moves that I learned. Do you have any words or things you can say that you know can convert her? Like, can you say like certain trigger words for her that'll make her change her mind? No, but I can say trigger words

that'll make her say, get the fuck out of here. I can't, there are no trigger words that like, I could try and be, look, my Instagram algorithm has things like words to say to your spouse when you wanna have sex and she doesn't. Oh, did it work? And I would try that shit and it never works. Like one time, one of the things was like, you know,

I really enjoy us spending this quality time together. You're sitting down. I can't imagine Casey Pauling could have sex. Right. When you're sitting down on the couch and you're not doing anything and like one of you is on her phone or on their phone. This was an allegory. This was a thing on Instagram giving you advice?

Yeah, like that's when you say something like, you know, I enjoy our time. I enjoy our quality time together. And she looked up and said, oh my God, babe, you mean like just hanging out and not doing anything? And I was like, yeah, I really, really enjoy that. Expecting her to be like, you want to do something?

Yeah, right. It's like, it's like a transition, dolly. I like rubbed her feet or some shit. Like, no, that shit didn't work. Dude, I love that you just, you said the line from Instagram, I love spending this quality time together. And then you just thought she was going to fucking mount you?

I know, I thought she would be like, you know, baby, I love it too. I love you so much. Wow. Thank you for, let's I love it too, I love you so much, wow. Thank you for, let's just fuck. And it didn't happen. Didn't work, I'm shocked. I'm shocked it didn't work.

And then I tried to make a move and she was like, no, no, baby, quality time. Maybe just start whispering in her ear something gentle and soft and dirty. No, that doesn't work. I'm gonna give you my own Instagram advice. Okay, do it now. You're just gonna cuddle up to her on the couch.

That doesn't work. And you can be like, baby, I wanna tell you a secret. The secret. And then you're gonna whisper in her ear, girl, you look so fine, and you smell so good. I wanna put a baby in you. Yo. That is not gonna work, bud.

I'm gonna tell you something right now, that is not, that will not work. The minute I go and whisper in her ear, she be like, the fuck, don't even try it. Just as fuck as you doing? What the fuck is you doing? What if you're like, girl, you look so fine right now. No, right then and there. I'm busted.

Right then and there, she's like, I'm not doing it right now. I love it when you just sit on the couch with me. Girl. All right. I want to watch reality TV shows with you. No, that shit ain't happening. That shit ain't happening.

That shit ain't happening, dude. All right, well, I tried to help. Well, you know what? It was a good try, but no. Whatever I can do. She sees right through those things. I just want like the scrubs sex gong. I just want you to text me when you have success.

Let's just say. I have quite a, wait, don't get it twisted. I have quite a bit of success, but it's never when I text you a picture of the gong. It's never when I am planning for it. Like she surprises me usually. Oh, I see. If you try, oh, so maybe some reverse psychology would work.

What if you're like, listen, let me just look at my pitch. She sees through all of this shit, I've tried this. Let me just try my pitch, ready? Okay, go ahead. Girl, girl, the last thing I wanna do. It's time to do it. I just wanna cuddle. I just wanna cuddle.

No, no. I don't want any cuddle, and of course, I just wanna cuddle. I just wanna cuddle. I don't want any cuddle and of course I just wanna cuddle. You know what? Five, six, seven, eight! Kids got stories about show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate I said, here's the stories that you all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our, Scrubs Rewatch your Wizac and I know.

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