Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - ANGELA KINSEY & JOSHUA SNYDER Came Face to Face with a Komodo Dragon

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Seth and Josh welcome Angela Kinsey and her husband, Joshua Snyder to the pod this week! They chat all about Angela's time growing up in Indonesia, her hilarious monkey stories, and what a "normal" childhood looked like to her. They also talk about Angela and Josh's shared experience of growing up with sisters and Josh's road trips between Kansas and Colorado. Plus, they discuss their new cookbook, You Can Make This!, available on Oct. 21, 2025! Support our sponsors: FabricJoin the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at meetfabric.com/trips. Policies issued by Western-Southern Life Assurance Company. Not available in certain states. Prices subject to underwriting and health questions.Mint MobileReady to say yes to saying no? Make the switch at MINTMOBILE.com/TRIPS. Upfront payment of $45 required (equivalent to $15/mo.). Limited time new customer offer for first 3 months only. Speeds may slow above 35GB on Unlimited plan. Taxes & fees extra. See MINT MOBILE for details.SoulBring on the good vibes and treat yourself to Soul today! Right now, Soul is offering our audience 30% off your entire order! Go to GetSoul.com and use the code TRIPS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Baji. Hey, Sufi. We're going to start with a plug. Are you right with starting with a plug? Sure. These episodes are on YouTube, everybody. Oh, yeah. And that's almost, the plug's basically 90% over.

So check it out. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you want to watch us do this, that's available to you. Yeah, some people like to do that. Some people like to see the faces of those. I mean, you know what we look like, fun to see the faces of our many

guests. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. How are you, my friend? I'm great. We saw each other. It was very exciting. We saw each other on Sunday. I was home. Yeah. And then you were home. We're going to see each other today by the time. By the time this comes up, by the time this comes out, it will

have happened. But you and I are both going to be on the Jimmy Kimmel show that is filming in Brooklyn this week. Yeah, I'm in this sort of very big dressing room at Bam, the Brooklyn Academy of Music. And I'm very excited. It's a big theater and it's a big deal. Kimmel coming east. I think they said it's maybe the seventh time they've done this. And I have not ever been in that theater and I just

went out for rehearsal and I was like, oh, this is massive, not nothing. It's like three thousand. It's going to be very exciting. And I'm very excited to be out there with you. We were, we took advantage of you being out east. I brought Addie to New Hampshire. I've done it before. I did it again. It was delicious to have her there. And you came in Sunday morning, got to hang out, and we watched the Steelers Vikings game with mom and dad. It was in Ireland, so it started at 9.30, which was perfect. I wish they all started that early. Yeah.

We were watching the game on a little bit of a delay, so we didn't have to sit through the commercials. Yeah. And it allowed us more time to just sort of hang out with Addy, not be sitting in front of the TV. That put dad basically in the, I don't know what you would call it. he was just sort of the commander of the remote. Yeah, and he did tell, you know, our neighbor and friend Franz, he said it was almost a euphoric morning for him to have his boys on the porch watching football. You know, he said out, you know, independently of us, he was like that was maybe one of the best mornings I could possibly imagine. I was also feeling some euphoria, especially when the Steelers were up three scores.

and I had my daughter in my lap and I was with you guys and I really thought I was going to cry because the Steelers were going to win and I was with everybody and then very slowly the Vikings started coming back

because we can't just win and it really stepped on my euphoria and here's something I haven't admitted to you because our car was outside to take me in the airport and I went upstairs and there was about seven minutes left in the game and I was packing up

But I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to check my phone. Because, again, we were behind. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm going to see what's happening. And I checked my phone, assuming that it would all be well in hand. And it was way closer than I wanted. And I'm like, I got to get out of here. I literally was like, I got to get in that car, get out of here.

Because if this falls apart, I can't be at home. Like, it will ruin this memory of what was one of my favorite mornings, too. Yeah. Like, I don't want to see. Because, again, you know, like, I felt like, you know what we were? We were like, we were like a crew that had pulled off a successful heist. Mm-hmm. And I felt like, had I stayed, it would be like that moment where you realize one guy's spending his money too loudly.

And everybody just turns on each other. Yeah. Yeah. But you, so tell me about the end of the game, because again, now I'm in the car. Well, with a minute left in the game, I want to say we were, the Vikings had the ball. We were punting. Yeah, yeah. And there was a commercial break.

And because we were on a little bit of a delay, you know, dad's got the remote. And he fast-forwards. But because the game is actually over at this point, as soon as he touches the remote, it rewinds to the beginning of the game, three hours previous. And he's like, ah, rabble, robber, rubble. Ravle, rabble.

Fast forwards through the whole game. And then it's like, he's going real fast, getting up to that one minute left, slows it down, gets it all set again, presses play, for whatever reason, jumps right to the beginning. like National Anthem stuff. Bummer.

Plus, I should note, one, that's stressful, too, the extra stress of you don't know if the Steelers have won't. Right. Which is a big deal. I mean, I'm not saying it's an actual big deal. It was a big deal for us. Yeah. And then he like hits play and it's interview with Aaron Rogers at the end of the game. Games over.

We didn't see that last minute. We didn't have to sweat through it. But you were okay. Nobody was mad. Mom was a little mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mom was like, what happened? He's like, we won.

And then he's mad because she's mad. Yeah. And, yeah. But they won. They won. I will say, all my instincts of like, Eddie get in the car, get in the car. Right.

You don't want to see this. I don't want you to see this. Yeah, but it was great. It was great to be home. And then dad did, you know, there were two games, two late games. um on the like red zone channel and i was like can you just pause this because dinner was ready and uh so then we ate and he hit play on that and it was again like uh end of game interview on

the bears raiders game that looked very exciting and then the other game was just that screen that says like we'll be back next week yeah and it plays just like aggressive music and dad wasn't muting it and it's like why just turn it off i look i do think like it's really nice to pause a game and enjoy your life and then go back to the game. But you are playing God in a way that you're not supposed to. Yeah. You're supposed to watch these things as they happen. That is the joy of sports.

And every time in my life, I've tried to record a game and find out what happened. It is something's gone a little bit wrong. Somebody texts you. Somebody texts you. And also, like, just, you know, you can feel in the air or something. You know, like what I mean? It's just, it's not right. Yeah.

Anyway, it was great to see you. Who's our guest today? It's Angela Kinsey And Joshua Snyder Yeah They Angela you know from the office

Yeah They are married They have They've had sort of like Cooking cooking segments on YouTube for a long time I think that's an actual Full-on cooking show

And then they've got a cookbook Called You Can Make This Baking with Josh is the YouTube channel And you'll find out pretty early in the interview that Josh is the chef and Angela is his plus one in the kitchen. But they are a delight.

They're a delight. Enjoy them. It was a delight seeing you in New Hampshire, Pashi. Yeah, it was the best. Our native homeland. And enjoy the show. Family chips

with my brothers. Family chips with a my Hello It's nice to see you without Oh, here he is We're going We've almost just had Angela

But it's nice to have you both Do you go by Josh or Joshua Joshua Josh? Well, if you ask my mom, it's Joshua Gotcha for sure, but Josh for literally everyone else. So Angela would fully Josh you. She Joshes me all the time. Yes.

And I was, the first time we had dinner with his mom, I was like saying, Josh this and Josh that. And we were just dating, right? And I was like, nervous having dinner with his mom. And she was like, so Joshua was telling me. And I went, and I did the thing where I was like, wait. And I was like, do you prefer Joshua? And she was like, well, that is what I named him. Oh, wow.

I know. And then he was like, no, no, no. by Josh. I was like, yeah. Well, my mother just named me straight up Josh. That's great. I mean, that's what I did with, you know, my boy is like, I was like one syllable, like strong names, like Jack Cade. Yeah, very smart. But I so just look at it by, I have a quick, some business up top before we get into it. Sure. Because Angela, I was looking at your bio and your sisters, three of them, all have two names, Billy Joe, Tina Lynn, Janet Lee. And, and you know, And yet you're, I don't believe that you just have one.

Well, they only go, well, Janet just goes by Janet, you know, but we are Southern. So, you know, in the South, sometimes you just say all of it. I love it. Like my mom's really good friend's name is Sue, but everyone calls her Sue Dean, her full name, her first and last name. But no, so Billy, Janet, Tina, and then my middle name was like a whole wonky thing. Okay. Do tell. Well, I guess my mom had, I was a late in life surprise baby.

You know, my sisters are like 16 years old or 15 years older, 10 years older. Oh, wow. Yeah. And so my oldest sister. So you couldn't afford middle names by the time. Yeah. But my sister, Billy, was 16 and she said, mom would come to get me from school, like, with a big pregnant Bailey. I'd be so embarrassed.

Like, everyone knows my parents do it, you know, like she was like. But, but yeah. So I guess. when my mom had me, they were in Louisiana, and she had a C-section, and she was kind of like a little loopy. Oh, no, she didn't have a C-section. She'd be so, she'd be like, I did not. But anyway, they gave her some drugs, and she was trying to tell the nurse my name, and she wanted my middle name to be Faith, but I guess she was saying, Faye. And the lady wrote Faye, and they didn't realize it until they got my passport when we moved to Indonesia when I

was two. And my mom was like, to my dad, why'd you put Faye? And he was like, I didn't put Faye. And she was like, I didn't put Faye. So a nurse in Louisiana named me Faye. Well, it's very Angela Faye. It's very nice. It's a lovely name. That was such a long story. No, it's good. Because I'm very excited to get to Indesia. But I also, you guys have a cookbook. And I want to ask, because I feel like a lot of cookbooks. It's called, uh, you can make this with an exclamation point. That's right. It feels like there's a lot. I feel like people who write cookbooks and are trying to instruct people on how to cook have to stress all the time. You can do this. Like there's a real like I, do you just find that so many people are intimidated by the idea

of cooking that you just have to as the cookbook authors really stress to them like trust us. We know you think you can't. Well, this name is because Josh says it all the time to me and the kids because he's a natural in the kitchen and I am not and he would say all the time you can make this and when it came time to title the book he was like that's what I want to title it and I was like are you sure it feels a little feels a little like I was surprised no one else had it honestly I kind of am with you because I think there is a real it's it's really important to tell people who are about to buy a cookbook like no no no we know yeah yeah no cooking and baking is hard you know but you can do this no it's you know my I grew up in the kitchen

And so it was, it's a little easier for me because I could, you know, my grandma's old recipes were like barely recipes, you know? The amounts were very like sparse. And then like she had like one sentence like, just put it all in the bowl and bake it. You know, oh, well, I don't know. Yeah, that's doable. So now, you know, nowadays it's like, you know, even on our website, we have, you know, we have like a step by step with like photos and like, you know, a video of how to do it. So it is a lot easier. And so with this cookbook, I mean, I really, you know, just tried to break it down as simple as possible. And the recipes are all easy enough, like, for, you know, their family favorite recipes that are pretty easy to make. Do you encourage improvising in these recipes or is it pretty much stick to it? It depends. Baking is not something you can improvise with very much and get away with it. I have tried.

Baking soda and baking powder are different in some ways. I mean, so. But, yeah, but cooking for sure. I mean, there's, there's, I mean, I'm a huge, like, soup fan, especially this time of year. And, yeah, soups, I mean, you can just put pretty much whatever you want in the soup and it's still, will be edible for me. Yeah. Of his life, he would eat soup every day. I'm not a big, I'm not a big soup guy.

And I was just home. Josh and I were both just home. And on back-to-back nights, mom made soup. And I think she was a little, and she was a little hurt that I was not as excited about soup as she may be expected me. I don't know how you could not like soup. Thank you, Josh. Yes. I agree.

I look forward to meals too much to have them served in a liquid form. Okay. I'm with you. Yeah. I enjoy a little bit of soup. Yeah. But I have found, and I don't know if you feel this way, Seth, but people that love soup really need you to love soup. Like, Josh is like, here, I have another soup for you.

But I will say, you do have a few in the book that I like that you found because I would. It's the perfect meal. You get everything all at once, you know? You get your veggies and your meat. I mean, it's all piled in. And then you have leftovers for days. I mean, it's great. I like to take it all and make it a soup in my belly.

But I like to, I like it all to be a little separated. You know, because I like, I don't like all my, you know, my proteins, my vegetables. I don't like them wet. And that's what, you know, when they're in a soup, they famously as a child, he used. said I don't like my well no I'm just like I always say like my mouth's going to bring the wet I was always like you don't have to worry about it I like that as a kid you had like a hashtag my mouth brings a wet I had a lot of hashtags before they were hashtags I would say pound sign obviously

pound signs sorry sorry right because we're old but I'm older than you though I think I think I'm the oldest one in this group here look we're not going to name and names we don't need to do that but wait so does that mean Seth you don't like sauces because I love a sauce. I love a sauce. Come on. I mean, he used to, our mom used to make a flank steak and baked potato.

Yeah. He would scoop out the baked potato and then stuff the flank steak into the potato skin and like dip that in an A1 sauce. Oh, A1 is delicious. And for anybody who's at home intimidated by that, you can make this. What Josh described, you can. I'll hit you up for the recipe later. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sports.

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Your entire family moved to Indonesia when you were two years old. Yeah. And what was the purpose of the trip? My dad was a drilling engineer, and he was transferred to Jakarta in the early 70s. Was it a transfer that he was excited about? You know, I think he felt like it was going to be a level up for his career. Like, if he did this, he was going to round a corner. And not a lot of people were jumping at the chance to leave, like, their family, their lives and, like, uproot and start somewhere new.

So there was definitely, like, cash incentive. They were paying great salaries. But they made you commit. When my dad took the job, they had had a hard time with people sticking it out. Sure. So when he took the job, they said you have to stay for two years before you can return to the United States, like back to your home. And that's scary because when they tell you that, you do know it's because other people have bailed early. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

But I think they just didn't give a chance of just, you know, learning a whole new place. And so we did. And the first time I came back to the States, I was four. Wow. And then did he stick it out? Was that – was it two years and he came? The whole family came back? No, no, no.

No, we went all together with him when I was two. We stayed two years. But the first time we got to go for like a summer visit was when I was four. And then we stayed there until I was 14. And are you surprised looking back or knowing your parents now? Obviously, when you were two, you were probably still figuring them out. But are you like, oh, they were the kind of people who were going to make that work and they were going to embrace a new culture and they were going to see it as a real opportunity.

Yeah, my dad for sure loved the sort of the challenge. part of it of like, you know, he was really passionate about his work and I think he was excited about the opportunity to head up this international drilling kind of arm of this company. But I think it was really hard for my mom because he would go off to work and have all of these sort of like great little challenges and stuff throughout the day. And then she would be home trying to like, be like, how do I, how do I meet people? How do I? So there were a lot of like clubs. There was like the American club. There was like a club for people that all worked at the same company, like little meetup kind of things.

And the American club was run by the American embassy, and it was for expats living and working in Indonesia. And that was really how she started to meet people. And then were you at an American school or an international school? I was at an international school, which if you're out in the world and you meet other people who went to international schools, it's just like instant geek. geek out moment. Like I was working on a show. I was filming in Vancouver and one of my co-stars I found out went to international school. And we figured that out like day one and that was it. We're like, oh my God. And then where did you go for volleyball? Oh, we flew to Kuala Lumpur. Oh, really? I did. You know, and it was just like all of this like. But I loved my school. I loved it. it I would imagine with your siblings first of all I like that given the opportunity to come up with a super fancy pompous name they just went with international school they just called it what it was Jakarta international school yeah your siblings older I would imagine a lot harder for them the idea of upbreeding and going to Jakarta yeah well my oldest sister was starting college okay so she stayed my mom's sister and her husband we're very close with my aunt and uncle so she stayed with them and then My second oldest sister, it was her senior year, and that was really hard, really hard. And then my sister, Tina, was like middle school age, you know.

So it was probably the easiest for me because I thought everyone grew up in Jakarta. Right. I was like, this is where we grow up, right? Do your middle two sisters look back on it fondly now? I think my, the one that was moving in as her senior year, I think it was like a big life lesson for her. And she's, it really shaped, I think, how she went out into the world. And she looks back on it now. And I think with, like, a lot of, like, perspective.

And, but it was a tough year. Yeah. And then my sister in middle school loved it. She loved it. So she, and she's still very connected to Indonesia. And she goes to all of the reunions, all the JIS reunions. And so it was a real, a real big, like, identifying, like, place for her. So, and we are going to get to you, Josh.

Hey, Josh has so many sisters. I've never heard this before. Well, that's what I'm going to say. So, Angela, I do want to clarify. Angela, you have three sisters and Josh, you have four sisters. I do have four sisters, yeah. Angela, when you met Josh, was that, did you realize when he had four sisters? You were like, oh, this is going to work out great.

Well, yeah, I think so because not only that, but they're like, they love him. And so I was like, okay, he grew up around a bunch of women and they all adore him. But I did have a hard time because their names are. Ginger, Jackie, Jory, Josie, Josh. Yeah. And so, you know what? That's going to be tough for... Now, I'm a little surprised.

So, Ginger, though, spelled with a G, right? True. So it's interesting to go all J sounds, but not all J names. Well, and they're, you know, they're blended family, so they didn't even know that. Oh, it was just dumb luck. Yeah, it was just dumb luck. My stepmom had it terribly hard. It was just like, George, John,

just get over here. So how many came with the stepmom? Two. Okay, so, all right. Jackie and Ginger. Okay. Yeah. And so your other two were.

We're Josie and Jory. Oh my gosh. Gotcha. No, I am second, so from the baby. So Jory is the youngest, and then I'm second. Gotcha. But I was only boy, too, so it didn't really matter. When, how old were you and your family blended?

I was about eight. So they're a real family. Your siblings feel like siblings. Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And we, you know, they, my stepsisters grew up in mostly Kansas. So I lived in Kansas until I was eight, then we moved to Colorado with my mom. And then so we didn't, we saw each other on the like summers and, you know, holiday type thing.

But we still are super close. I was just back for a wedding for my niece, my, my stepsisters, you know, daughter. And, yeah, it was just like, it was so great. So great. It's fantastic. So were you going back and forth between Kansas and Colorado then? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

A lot. And let me tell you, that's super exciting drive. He said the drive is just kind of yellow. I mean, it's eight hours. It's just like, yeah, the same color. And that's like an eight-hour drive where there's probably no faster way. No. And no, there's no faster way.

We're just on I-70 pretty much the whole time. And there's no, because I would imagine, go, there's no airports that make a trip like that. I mean, you could get from Denver to Wichita, you know, like, but it was so, it was out of our price. We didn't fly anywhere when I was a kid, you know. Yeah, there's a lot of kids to, yeah, transport to and fro. They were like, if you think we, if we had money, you think we'd be eating soup? Yeah, that's pretty, so totally.

What's kind of funny about, like, the Kansas Colorado Drive, though, was that Colorado's speed limit was 60 you know going and that's back in you know the 80s and then um Kansas was 50 and so you made that you know about three hours in we switched to Kansas and my dad was notorious for going the speed limit so when we got to Kansas it was 50 miles average I don't know it's just something about being under 60 that just like you're like mentally it's just such a hard you know it's like God, just kind of like a little faster, five miles faster. Anything, please. I mean, that whole, I mean, that is even for a dumb kid that is a discernible drop in speed where you're, nobody can lie to you about it.

Yeah, no, no, no. It's been so exciting. Welcome to Kansas. Seriously, it was just like the longest trip ever I remember. It must have been so exciting going the other way to cross into Colorado. Oh, yeah. Coming home was great. My mom, my mom also, we met halfway with my dad.

And so then my mom always went about five miles over the speed limit. But I think is, I think that's, I think you got to do that on a road trip. You got to do that for everyone's mental off. Yeah. Yeah. I do nine. I try to go nine. Yeah, that's just, yeah. How was, uh, I'm not, I'm not a troublemaker, but nine.

Please tell me if I'm getting to, uh, close to the bone, uh, for a child of divorce. But when you did the tradeoff at the state, uh, at state lines, was it, was it an affable tradeoff? Why are you laughing? Like, already laughing. I was just so funny to me because our parents stayed together. So. Divorce. I'm hilarious.

Yeah. No, but like, a couple broken bottles here and there, but I mean, the most. But I, I mean, like, was it just sort of an affable handoff? I just like the idea of handing off a child at state lines, I think. Yeah, it was, it always was. I mean, it was, they didn't talk a lot, you know. Right. They still don't, really.

But, yeah, it was, you know, my dad was usually there waiting for us. So he was, he's very punctual. So. Yeah, guy goes 50. Yeah. I mean, the guy goes 50 isn't going to be late to take up. He left at 2 in the morning and got there, you know. But no, it was always, you know, we just kind of got in. And then we had our routine by that point.

So we knew exactly where we were going to stop for McDonald's, you know, and Hayes, which is about three hours away from home, you know. So we had our routine. And now I look back, though, I think my, I think my mom, probably, you know, pan us off. She had this whole, like, you know,

two weeks off from us, too. You know, which I was like, that was been great for her back then. I didn't think about that. I just thought she missed us. That, by the way, going 75 with three kids in the car,

I mean, going 75 with no kids in the car, that must have felt like a hundred and seventy. Windows are down. Yeah, just like, that's like. She probably had like a whole play mix

after she dropped you guys off. Cigarettes. Yeah. So, Angela, when your whole family was in Indonesia, would you take trips using that as your base? And did you see a part of the world that most of us don't get a chance to see as a kids? Yeah, I think I saw a lot of Southeast Asia's. And, you know, we always, my mom sort of was a collector of people in a way. Like, so, you know,

she met a family and they were young missionaries and, like, they just didn't have much. And so she was like, we're going on a trip and you're coming with us. And she was like, dad, told my dad, she was like, I'm bringing Fetty and Fred Houser and their daughter, Tammy. And my dad was like, what? And we decided we were going to go up to Bondung up to the mountains. And Fred had, Fred Houser had a Volkswagen van, you know, with the slidy door, like the, I don't even know if it had seatbelts.

But anyway, we had this trip planned and all of a sudden Fred was like, I'll drive. And my dad was like, what? And we all piled in this Volkswagen and went up to the mountains. And, you know, the roads up there, there's no guardrails. It's just like, that's it. And there's lots of, it was rain. And I think why this memory stands out to me so strongly is we stopped on the side of the road at like a little stand to, you know, get some food and stuff. And a man had a tiny monkey, like the little ones, right, with the long tail.

and Tammy really wanted it. She was like, I need that, I want that monkey, I want that monkey. And we could not believe it, but Betty bought her the monkey. And my dad was like, I'm not getting in a van with that monkey. And so the man that he bought it from, there was no cage. So he kind of made this makeshift cage out of Rattan and, you know, and put the monkey in it, poor thing. So that means he wasn't even thinking about selling the monkey. I don't think so.

I don't think so. But anyway, we left with that monkey, and my dad was like, you've got to put it in the way back. So we put it, you know, in the way back. And we're driving down the road. Fred's driving. And it's just raining buckets. It's just like, rain, rain. And all of a sudden, Tammy's like, where's the monkey?

And the van went, what? And we're like, where's the monkey? And Fred goes, it's on my leg. And it was on his leg. And he was driving. and it was just like immediate mayhem in this van. And he said to my dad, Bill, get the monkey. And my dad was like, the hell I am.

It was just like, it was chaos. And the van, the door, when you turned a corner, it would come unhint, unlatched, and it would slide open. So we had to have an adult by the door, and they had to hold the thing. And anyway, that trip, none of us will ever forget, you know, and we. we pulled off on the side of the road and the monkey went out the door. Wait, did it really? By the way, I bet this is a scam

and that monkey knew exactly how to get back to that guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was like, so funny. Oh, I hope that is the case. I hope he just ran right back home. He just, like, lit a little monkey cigarette, and he's like, got him again. Got him again, boss. Had all the jewels in this, you know. Right, if you had all the wallets.

Yeah. Your dad's voice like literally made me think, like, It sounds like Jeff Fox were, they being like, if you have a monkey in a band, you just might be a redneck in Indonesia. Yeah, that was, although the Hauser's were from Pennsylvania. So,

but they bought the monkey, not the Texans, Louisiana folks. But that was my dad. He loved a road trip to start at like 5 a.m. Like, he would walk around, because he had to get up so early

to be on the drilling rig, you know. His day started so early. But his phrase, was, we're burning daylight. So he would walk around and he had a house full of women getting him out the door yelling, we're burning daylight. There was no daylight.

Whenever we left the house, it was dark. There was no daylight. Yeah, he's using it wrong. Yeah. How long do you think you possessed the monkey for? Was it two hours? No, hours. Hours.

Yeah. Was the monkey named in that time? That I don't remember. I was probably about eight years old. I just remember the minute they said, where's the monkey? The immediate panic in the band. You know, it's funny, if you can't trust the integrity of a monkey cage built in haste on the side of a road, what can you trust? What can you trust?

So what were you, what kind of road trips would you take, Josh? I'm assuming they were also car-based. Yeah, yeah, for the most part, I do remember one trip that we took to Nashville. That was like a big family trip that we took with everybody, like all my sisters and my stepmom, my dad. And, you know, it was back in the day where, like, you had, you know, just one tape that you listen to over and over and over again, you know, in the car ride. So, I, you know, I was probably like nine or whatever. And I was really into Randy Travis. So we had the Randy Travis album on, like, nonstop.

And that's pretty much, you know, I sang that over and over to my sister. and performed that for them the whole way. Did you have a Walkman or were you playing it? No, it was through the car. It was through the car. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so then we stopped, I remember we stopped at Opryland, USA, you know, and I was able to make one of the recordings.

Do you remember those like karaoke booth type things? You go in and make like a tape, you know, with yourself singing. So I have a tape when I was like nine of me singing the gambler, McKinney Rogers. Yeah. So, it was really special. Do you ever, do you ever break that tape out? Is that sort of a Christmas classic or something? I still have it.

I still have it. And I need to figure out how to get it digital now. I should probably do that quick before it deteriorates more. We have watched Josh, me and the kids. He was in Oklahoma in high school. And his dance number is something special. That was not the skill that was fast down to me. You can see.

He sings like an angel. And then the dance part, you see him counting like, like, why? Oh yeah. I did tap dance. I mean, they made me tap dance for this show and I was like, you know, and I really thought I did a good, I really thought I was doing a good job. That's the, that's the sad part. Then I watched it back. I was like, oh, my God. I have like, you know, the whole time and my kids, you know, obviously we film their little recitals where they sing songs at the end of the year. And either of my boys, the minute they have to do a little, like even a hand dance move, they both, both their mouth shut. Like they can't sing and do. They can't do anything. I would love to say that Randy Travis thing brought me back to a childhood road trip, but I would say it only brought me back like two days because my wife still listens to a ton of Randy Travis in the car. And I don't get a vote. And I hear, I would say, deeper than the holler is a song. I've heard a little bit more than I want.

And love is deeper than the holl. Yeah. Longer than. Oh, I love that song. Or digging up bones. Digging up bones. Digging up bones. On the other hand.

Oh, the other hand. This is a different pod. We bonded on a road trip, Angela, just because our love of like old country music or just knowledge of it. Well, we didn't know that. We didn't know that about each other. We were driving to Palm Springs and there's that part where you round the corner and the big wind turning things. Oh, yeah, the wind farm. The wind farm and you lose service and there's like the that you drive like down this road,

like really dusty, like, things. I don't know. What are those called? Tumbleweeds? Tumbleweeds. Anyway, it was pivotal to the story, not. For anybody watching on video, she did do a wonderful tumbleweed gesture. Yeah.

Thank you. We should have gotten it sooner. But we lost all, like, you know, signal. And for some reason, I started, I had old country, and we started singing. And we knew every song. And all of a sudden it was like, huh. Like, soulmate. Restless Heart

Like all these like old 80s country Pretty sweet Yeah my father-in-law is a real Country music fan Really? Yeah Real I mean like it plays all the time

Where's he from? Well he's from Like New York Long Island But he then moved out When he was like 18 years old to New Mexico So that's where my

That's my wife grew up And so they got some of it I mean Oh yeah He he own more than one Bolo tie He's not afraid You never know where you're going to go

Yeah, he's got a lot of turquoise belts Did he wear a bolo tie at your wedding? He mercifully didn't But I was at a I have been at a wedding with him in New Mexico Where he and I both wore bolo ties So no judgment Our friend who co-officiated us is from Montana And wore a bolo tie

That's good though Yeah, I mean, you know, my family loved it They're like, that young man in the balotai can really articulate himself. They're a lot easier to tie. They aren't a lot easier to tie. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.

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right now. Soul is offering our audience 30% off your entire order. Go to getsold.com and use the code trips. That's getsole.com promo code trips for 30% off. Angela, so like where would you, would you take like weekend trips from Jakarta or were they all like sort of spring break trips when you would? Well, we, yeah, I mean, you guys, I feel like sometimes I talk about my childhood and people are like just enough, all right? Like Rain Wilson used to make fun of me. He'd be like, oh, is this another monkey story? She has a lot of monkey stories. I do.

I can't believe you just told us one. You've got more. Yeah, there's like multiple. I have so many. That monkey came back into my life three or four more times. Yeah, exactly. I one time did like a monologue at iOS, like doing improv, I called When Monkeys Attack Me, because I've been around so many monkeys. But no, we would do weekend trips. The company my dad worked for, and this was my favorite trip, they leased an island out in the Thousand Islands. Okay. Where are the Thousand Islands? I'm sorry.

They're just, you know, right off the like the shores of Java, you know, about, it was about a three-hour boat ride. They would put us on a supply boat that would then be going further out to the rigs. So we're in open ocean. But so we, my dad's company had this island. And it was about a 30 minute or 20 minute boat ride from Komoto Island. If you've heard of that, that helps your geography, anyone listening. But so, and it had three houses on it strategically like kind of put, so you had your own corner of the island, right? And it was lovely.

And it was like someone giving you a private island resort, and there were, you know, there was a cook and there was like a boat driver. And it was just lovely. And we got to know these people over the years that lived out on the islands like that. But we, there was a lottery system and you went like probably like every three months your family got to go. It was one of the incentives of like, hey, come come work for us here and you'll get to do these things. They also had cabins up in the mountains that we would go to. up in like the rice patties and beautiful. But so that was my favorite thing was to go out there.

And you would wake up, you know, they had like the trash cans had a cover you had to put on. And you, they would like really wire them shut because you would wake up and a comodo dragon would be in the in the trash can, you know. So imagine now, now imagine me in the 80s. I moved from Indonesia. We get transferred to Dallas, Texas. And someone's talking about like a raccoon in the trash. I'm like, well, we had Komodo dragons. Oh, so you were insufferable.

Oh, totally. They were like, she's the worst. Totally. How scary is a Komodo dragon encounter? Are you just like, well, they're not going to come get me. They're just big and they're not trouble. Or is like, oh, this is terrifying. I mean, you just back up and you're like, I'm going to let you go your way very slowly, go on your way.

And we went to Indonesia last year. I really wanted the kids to see where I grew up. And I wanted them to experience, like, Indonesia more, like, in the 70s, 80s. So we went to Sumba Island. And one morning, we were walking from breakfast, and we saw it was a, was it, Josh, it was like a type of. Like a monitor lizard, I think. Yeah. But they're very similar looking to Komoto Dragon, and it was huge and it was crossing the path.

And Josh was like, Josh is, first of all, terrified of snakes. Like, he left us on the side of the road, me and the kids when they were little. because he thought there was a snake and ran, ran away from us. Well, yeah. And so, but he wasn't as scared of that because he said it has legs. It has legs.

It's a natural, you know. Right. I didn't put my head around that, but the snake, I can't, like. I like, you're like, I trust this guy. Yeah. He's got legs, I got legs. I got legs.

We understand each other. Exactly. Yeah. And if a Komodo dragon wants to come at you fast, can they? Can they be very fast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the bummer is, I would say, having watched a couple of videos, it's also a little bit funny.

You know, when lizards walk fast, it's like both terrifying but also super funny. Yeah, yeah. So you don't know. Yeah. But their claw, I mean, even just seeing their, I mean, it's like a dinosaur. It's like a dinosaur. You know, it looks like, you know, Jurassic Park or something. But their claws are so big and sharp and you're just like, nope, nope.

Yeah. Just let it go. Let it go do its thing. Yeah. So you just came back to Texas and you were just like chock full of stories about monkeys and dragons. I was the worst. People were just like, who is this? But at least you got over it. Oh, no, you didn't get over it even before the office. Rain Wilson also. No, Rayne Wilson, he would just tease me all the time about it.

And he would be like, and he also would, I would speak Indonesian and he'd be like, you're making it up. I'm like, I'm not. I mean, it was nice to hear, you know, her actually speaking in Indonesian with people who spoke it, because, like, the same with us. Like, we're like, I don't know if she's telling the truth. So you, so when you went over there, how many, was it the two of you and two kids? Three, all three kids. We're blended. So I have a daughter.

Right. And Josh has two boys. And what did the age gap between your kids? Well, so here's the crazy thing. We were sort of the divorcees at preschool. Oh, wow. So we met, like, actually, I feel like one of the first times we really talked. is they had a craft station you could sign up for,

and someone had all of the Legos for, like, Star Wars, you know? They were building the Death Star Lego. The Death Star, yeah. And it was, like, thousands of pieces. And I went to volunteer, and I'm shit at Legos because I don't want to read the instructions. And, like, don't ask me to put together your IKEA coffee. I can't believe you have to bake with this woman, Josh.

Believe me. Believe me. Yeah, it's rough. I know, and he was like putting, and I was kind of putting things together, and I think then he had to go back and redo what I did. But, but, yeah. He had to go back and sign up for a different craft. He was like, I can't sign off.

So that's amazing. So how, are your kids the same grade? So Isabel and Jack are the same age, and they're only four days apart. The four days apart. Wow. Yeah. Then our youngest is also born in May, too. So, like, they're all, like, two years, you know, he's two years younger, but yeah.

May is birthday, Paloosa. for us. It's just not stop. So Isabel and Jack were how old when you guys met then, if it was preschool? Well, when we met, met? I mean, they started preschool when they were like two and a half? So they knew each other. And so when did you guys when did you guys become a couple? It wasn't until like they were like DK year. Yeah, so probably the

they must have been like six. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. But I also, I didn't know the parents at the school because that was when I was filming the office. So I couldn't drop my daughter off for school because I had to be on set at 5.30. And then I couldn't pick her up because I was usually on set until about 5, 6 p.m. So I would. Great Daniels would famously say we're burning daylight. We're burning daylight. But thanks to Steve Krell, though, we really kept a nice schedule so you could make it home for dinner. That was like big for him. You know, he had young kids too.

But I would go at lunch. I picked a preschool sort of between work and home. And on my lunch break, I would go to the school and I would have lunch with Isabel. And so I got to know the kids. And this has kind of become like our family lore. You know how you have those stories. Right, of course. My first memory of Jack is I was there for story time. And there's this big tree that they all sit under and they sit crisscross applesauce, you know, with their snack.

And I was sitting there with Isabel in my lap and the teacher, Myra, who was just like, if you could like make a person into just a hug. She was just like a hug of a person. And she was reading a story And she stopped mid-story And she goes, Jack, dirt is not food Okay, we don't eat dirt And I look over and this kid is face down And the dirt and he got dirt all over

And that's my first memory of Jack Which I'm sure he'd love that I'm telling that story And you were like, yeah, you were like Jack is by any chance you're a daddy single Yeah That's the one That's the one I want. This kid is resourceful

Another great advertisement for soup is that Jack's just chowing down dirt When he gets to school Exactly, geez, I'm so hungry He said he ate this morning I don't know, I had soup for him We had breakfast soup Why is he hungry? Breakfast soup

So I have to ask by in sixth grade When they were six years old Were they, did the two of them get along? Because obviously little did they know They're so close They're so close Wonderful And you know

Sometimes when we're out in the world like people, you know, you're, you meet new people and they're like, oh, you know, how old are you guys? And they both say, you know, they're the same age. And, and, and people will be like, oh, you're twins. And they used to be like, no. And they would kind of get into the story. And now they're just like, yeah. They're just easier. Yeah, it's just easier. But, you know, when you blend a family, too, you're like, well, this could go one of both ways, right? They're either going to really, and they're so close. And at school, they have the same friend group. So, like, Isabelle's group of gals. And, and. his group of like guy pals they all hang out together and um anyway i'm just we're just really thankful for it that's amazing wait to you well well isabel isabel has started dating jack's best friend oh okay and he was like but it's all good it's all good at first he said no you cannot and then he's like okay yeah that's better that i thought you were saying they were dating each other no no no no i saw i mean it's not enough technically but but that'll be fine when you're And they're like, when people ask if, and they're like, we're twins and we're a couple.

And sister and brother. It's very cool. But it's all everything. But the riddle is, it's all legal. We get the holidays. We always get the holidays that way. You know what I mean? So you took your all three to Indonesia.

How old were the kids when you took them? Well, last year. So they were 14 and 16. And were they excited? So excited. And I really. didn't, I told Josh, I'd been wanting to take them for years, but I was like, I don't want to go all that way and then them not remember it because, like, my family went to Holland when I was four. I don't remember it, you know? So I was like, I want them to remember it. And I want it to be a core memory. And then I was like, I hope they like it. I hope they like it. What if they don't like it? And Josh was like, I'm going to need you to relax. Because it meant so much to me. She really stressed out about like, you know, just this. Yeah. Because it was so important to her. You know, So it's such a big part of her life.

And it's a big trip. It's a big trip. Huge. Huge. And we went to Singapore first because Singapore, my parents had really good friends there. And we would go there a lot when I was a kid. And that's like where I went to the dentist. And like, I don't know.

Like I had random doctor's appointments in Singapore. How far was it to go to the dentist from Indonesia to Singapore? It's like an hour and a half flight. Okay. And you'd ideally only go once a year or twice a year. No, we would go a couple times a year. I mean, it's kind of like flying to Vegas, you know what I mean, from L.A. Yeah.

And Josh, you still go to Vegas to see your dentist, right? Always. But we had friends there, and then we would also, like, shop and whatever. But, yeah, so they loved Singapore. And then so we did Singapore first, and then we went to Sumba Island, and then we went to Ubud. Okay. Did you have any swings and misses? Did you put anything in the itinerary that was ill-advised?

I feel like I learned this time because I did have a swing and miss when we were in London. We went, that was our first big family trip out of the United States. And I love a museum and I packed us in a lot of museums. And by the time we got to Westminster Abbey and I was like, you guys, come here, come here, come here. This is where Elizabeth I first is buried. Okay. So here's the story, her and Mary Queen of Scots, oh, my God. You know, and they were just like, no.

Oh, more. They were like, Josh was like, Ange, you have, we're done. We're done. Like, so I tried to like this trip make it adventure and cultural and, you know, like have a balance. Yeah. Because, yeah. Josh, Josh was like. It's good. I think it's nice. By the way, obviously you guys have a good relationship that Josh could step in and tell you that. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. We have a lot of like sidebar, you know. Yeah. We have, I don't know about you guys. You're both married. Seth. I know you're. Josh, yeah. Well, we, our pantry is like right off the kitchen. And that's where we have, like, like, we'll be parenting or something will happen. And we'll be like, pantry, pantry. That's so good. That's what we talk, you know, talk crap about the kids too. Do your kids ever see you in there and be like, oh, I want no part of this? I don't think they've, I mean, now, if they listen to this, I don't think they've ever picked up on it. No. Because we're always cooking and doing stuff. They're so self-absorbed, you know.

Yeah. I don't care. I don't care about us. 14 and 16, that's what you get. Yeah, yeah. The problem with New York City apartments is they're like, we can hear you in the pantry. But yeah. And Josh, when growing up, so you did Nashville, any other sort of regular spots that you go,

were your grandparents nearby? Would you? I mean, we went to Kansas a lot, obviously. And then, you know, growing up in Colorado, we went to the mountains all the time. You know, so like we just, you know, we kind of lived in a place that people go to vacation. Yeah. So we, we really spent a lot of time, like, camping and just kind of skiing, obviously, too.

Yeah. Would you car camp or were you guys hiking deep into the woods carrying? No, no, we'd car camp mostly, yeah. None of us were huge, like, you know, backpackers, like bring her own gear or stuff. I'm still not that way. I have to have my pillow. Yeah, but he's so, you guys, he loves hiking so much. I do.

But, like, the overnight stuff, I'm just like, I don't know. Yeah, I still haven't done it, but I just, my wife's best friend lives up in Portland with her boyfriend, and they do it. And I just bumped into her boyfriend at a show. And I was like, hey, we want to do one of these, like, multi-night trips. And he was like, you do? And I was like, definitely. And he's like, I know. But I just feel like I need someone to take me.

I can't just take my wife into the woods because then if something goes wrong, it is all on me. and, you know, if I, if we hang a bear canister in the wrong way, see, Josh, you lost me at bear canister. If I have to hang a bear canister, this is not the trip for me. Also, I'm very upset with the makers of bear canisters if there's a wrong way to hang it. But they're like, oh, if it's that way. If it's that way, the bears are going to be coming. That's like, this is on you.

Wait, you guys, Josh and said, like, what are your, like, do you guys do, do, like, do you guys do, like a brother's trip like do you guys go and do that kind of thing we have a we have the same we went to college together so we have a college friend group and we get together once a year with 10 other guys uh which is fantastic and then we do a trip every year to go see a football game with my parents in Pittsburgh where my dad's from and this year I'm going to bring my boys not my little girl because she's too young um but that's nice but so we but that's i would say our trip uh but that's two annuals that we kind of knock out and then like that's great yeah that's great i mean we're very lucky that we have this

group of friends that uh we get to be brothers uh within the body yeah and then we also both worked for the same theater in amsterdam and every now and again there's like a reunion back there at boom chicago and so we'll find ourselves there and then like right now i'm in new york i'm gonna see Seth later today uh i just saw them in new hampshire over the weekend we do we do pretty good for people on opposite coast we do yeah you really do yeah because i think about that kids. I don't know if you think about that, Seth, but I'm like, I hope that, you know, right now, we are the people planning the trips, right? Yes. And sort of creating the memories. And I hope when they get older, that they still find a way to do that with each other. I know. I mean, even that

thing, which I'm sure you guys have, too, like, which is a much smaller version of this. Like, sometimes my wife and I will both be in the kitchen and the kids will be in the breakfast, nook, all eating. And we will just realize they're having a conversation that is not dependent upon us. And it's also, it's not, they're not fighting. they're not yelling and they're not asking us a question and it's just like oh fuck they're talking they have their own thing yeah that has been something really cool now that we have teenagers they they really they make dinner together and we hear them laughing and like talking in the kitchen and they're playing their music and you know it's just really cool although you do

there's phrases that you're going to like i don't know if they'll still be around when your kids are teenagers but this is what we hear all the time okay let's low key lock in let's low key lock and make this pasta sauce. And I'm like, why are we, what? Why are we low-keying? Like, you're at home. You can be whatever key you want. Yeah, you don't have to worry about keys here.

That's the whole point of home. Hey, that's a safe place. You guys, it is just delightful to talk to you both. And it's always so nice to see you, Angel. It's so lovely to see you, Josh. I know, I told Josh, I said you're my favorite. Oh, yeah. You know, like, if there's a talk show, like, thing for anything that comes up, I'm always, like,

Can I please go? Like, Seth is so fun and it's easy, please. I just, you mentioned Rain. I just had Rain on, and I told him after the interview. I don't know why it just got served out to me on social media. But that famous office outtake where you just creep up next to him and he screams, fuck. I mean, it just popped up and I watched it like 10 times. And I said to Rain, I'm like, I just got this.

I know exactly which one you know. I know. And you know, it's so funny, too, because that was an outtake, you know. So the director told me they had me wear flat so I was as short as possible and I'm already 5-1 and Rain is like 6-3 and they said we want you to get as close to his elbow as possible but you know don't make you know just sneak right up there and rain didn't know that direction he knew I was going to come up behind him and so I just came right up to his elbow and he looked down and he went suck and everyone started laughing and the director was like oh wait wait wait we got to do that again. We've got to do it again. It's so good. All right, before we let you guys go, another reminder to everybody, you can make this, exclamation point, releases. There it is.

Look at that beautiful book. You guys look great on the cover. That looks like it was a fun photo shoot. October 21st. Do get that. And we have questions for you, and Josh is going to ask them. Speed round. Okay, here we go.

You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Educational. Adventurous. Educational. Yeah. We knew your answer. What is your favorite means of transportation?

Car. Yeah, car up the coast with Ange. Great. Ooh, even more detail. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family. What family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh, maybe the Bolins.

The And Bolins? Oh, my God. You really do. did like being a Westminster. Yeah. I know. I was an English major, you guys. I wrote a term paper on Ann Ballin.

I'm not going to go on that one. The Myers Brothers. Oh, thanks. We're a good, hang. Larry and Hillary also. Yeah, you're not going to get out of it without our parents. Randy Travis, he's ready to go. Let's do it.

If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Josh. Okay, Josh. Do you want to pick someone other than Angela? I mean, besides you, I would thought. No, no, no. No, no. No, you did not.

But it doesn't have to be, Josh. He just said he'd drive up the coast with you. So I'd pick you. We know where it's hard was. Okay. Angela, what's your hometown? Archer City, Texas. Archer City, Texas.

If you had to pitch Archer City, Texas, you're the head of the board of tourism, how do you get people to come to Archer? Make the pitch. Okay. First of all, it's home. of Larry McMurtry. He wrote Lonesome Dove, which my mom and I just re-read. Oh, Lonesome Dove. Just a shout out to Lonesome Dove, the most readable thousand-page book you're ever going to put up. Yes, Terms of Endearment, the last picture show, right? He did the screen adaptation for Brokeback Mountain. He bought so many estate books, like huge estate book collections that we had the

largest rare book collection in the Southwest, and we're in travel and leisure magazine. He bought up all of downtown and made it into all of these bookstores. And it's also home of a dairy queen that's that you can't go through the drive-thru. Just it doesn't work. Don't bother stopping it. Just go right to the window. And also, um, rodeo every year. Don't want to miss it. And Angela Kinsey might be in town. Wow. Great. Now, Josh, what is your hometown? I do want to jump in real quick just because we talked about country music. Larry McMurtry's son, James McMurtry. Yes.

As a country singer, and I will just say Canola Fields. Okay. My favorite country song. Oh, yes. I turn it back over. Yes. Chat out. Josh, what is your hometown?

Well, I think, I guess Wichita would be where I was born, you know, and like around that. So pitch Wichita. I mean, if you're looking to slow down. And honestly, like, I will say when I was younger, like, I did not enjoy, like, going back for too long. But like now when I go back, you know, even just last week for a wedding, it's just, it's actually really nice. Just, you know, the stress level is like way down here, you know, compared to where we live. So it's just a simple, like, good, good life. And, yeah, so if you're looking to slow down, head to Wichita. Great. And then Seth has our final

questions. Have either of you been to the Grand Canyon? Yes. Yes. Yes. Was it worth it? It was so worth it. I signed up to do a horseback ride on the East Rim, and I was driving cross-country with a friend, and she did not want to do it. So I showed up by myself and was alone in this group of families and tourists, and we watched the sunrise as you horseback ride on the East Rim. That's good. I'd go with that. Yeah. What?

I've always said, I believe it's the soup of geographical food. Oh, no. I saw it, and it was great, you know. Yeah, I'm very much team, Josh, on this. But, yeah. You're like Chevy Chase in this. And there's so many, there's still like, mm, good, you know? That's the one way.

Yeah, it's a snake place. Yeah, it's a snake place. I don't know to snake places. Yeah, it's Snake City. Yeah. Snake City. No, nobody got feet. None of those reptiles got feet.

No, no, no, no. Great talking to you both. Thank you so much. Yeah, you too. Yeah, thanks you guys. Thank you so much. Well, Joshua and Angela will call them Josh and Ange. Not only can they bake a cake, but they can saute, fry, and blanche.

When Josh's dad was at the wheel, he wouldn't break the law. Eight hour driving all the while, it felt just like a crawl. Wishing there was some way to get that motor juiced. Crossing into Colorado felt like a turbo boost. And Josh was a decent type dancer in the Oklahoma show. Tape in the tape player Playing Randy songs And then they rode on end in Nashville

Where Josh took on the gambler He was young but had conviction Conviction that was strong He would entertain the girls When he would sing along Angela Faye, she went away Dad was a drilling engineer Jakarta, Indonesia

stayed there for 12 years When she came back to Texas Raccoons they would appear But compared to Komodo dragons They weren't much to fear There was that time they bought a monkey Way up in the mountains Actually it was bought by their friends

Who had a van And someone said, hey, where's the monkey That didn't find you funny Its cage was made in haste by weaving Pieces of retan Off into the jungle The monkey ran That was the monkey's plan

That was the monkey's plan