Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - BOB ODENKIRK Is Not Your Average Action Movie Star

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Bob Odenkirk joins Seth and Josh on the podcast! He talks about taking his kids to the Dells, camping in Wisconsin, filming in locations like Winnipeg and Albuquerque, how it’s felt becoming an acti...on movie star, and so much more! Plus, he chats about his new movie, Nobody 2, out August 15th! ------------------------- 00:00 Introduction with Seth and Josh04:58 Bob Odenkirk Joins the Podcast06:20 Family and Personal Stories11:26 Dog Training and Family Dynamics14:02 Better Call Saul and Acting Challenges17:57 New Mexico and Family Visits29:17 Religion and Upbringing34:36 Nobody Movie Franchise39:51 The Magic of Over-the-Top Performances40:23 Balancing Darkness and Inclusivity in Film40:54 The Importance of a Great Editor41:26 Unexpected Hollywood Insights46:36 Exploring Winnipeg's Charm53:57 From Italy to Wisconsin Dells59:39 Childhood Memories and Family Trips01:06:25 The Influence of Bad Theater01:08:59 Writing the Superfan Film01:12:03 Speed Round with Bob01:13:41 Grand Canyon Adventures and Final Thoughts ------------------------- Support our sponsors:DeleteMETake control of your data and keep your private life private by signing up for DeleteMe. Now at a special discount for our listeners. Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to join https://www.deleteme.com/TRIPS and use promo code TRIPS at checkout.Mint MobileGet this new customer offer and your 3-month Unlimited wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month at https://www.MINTMOBILE.com/TRIPS Upfront payment of $45 required (equivalent to $15/mo.). Limited time new customer offer for first 3 months only. Speeds may slow above 35GB on Unlimited plan. Taxes & fees extra. See MINT MOBILE for details.SuperpowerGo to https://www.Superpower.com and use code TRIPS to get $50 Off your annual Superpower subscription. Live up to your 100-Year potential. #superpowerpod FitbodGet in shape this summer with Fitbod. Join Fitbod today to get your personalized workout plan. Get 25% off your subscription or try the app FREE for seven days at https://www.Fitbod.me/TRIP. ------------------------- Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. ------------------------- Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Pugie. Hey, Sufi. How are you doing? I'm good. I have one little medical beef. Great. I hope it's not with me. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:00:12 So I tweaked my shoulder when I was visiting McKenzie's hometown. And through seeing a chiropractor like three times and getting two massages, which I don't like. But eventually it was like, oh, this is like a nerve thing. So I got to like, you know, get an appointment with my primary care doc two weeks, two weeks for a video visit. Now I see him, he's like, oh, I'll send you to a specialist. They should be able to see you right away. Two weeks to go see them. And then they see them and they're like, oh, yeah, you should go physical therapy at this place.
Starting point is 00:00:47 You should just like swing by, but maybe call and see if they have availability. Six weeks. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So this tweak is going to take weeks and weeks. It's the tweak of weeks and weeks. It's the tweak of weeks and weeks, which is one of my favorite Dr. Seuss books, the tweak that took weeks and weeks.
Starting point is 00:01:06 And you went to the doctor and you said that it squeaks and the doctor says it'll be six weeks. And you said, doctor, doctor, can you see that it's tweaked? But the doctor left the room. You see he had sneaked. I remember it word for word. Yeah. Well, yeah, you've got kids also. So you're probably reading it to them on the rings.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Kids had a photographic memory. You, I'm very jealous. You went and saw Diana Ross. Oh, yeah. Diana Ross, 81. Wow. Saw at the Hollywood Bowl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And I sort of didn't know what to expect, but I, you know, a good friend of mine, Nicole Vecerelli and her husband, P.B. We bumped into each other at the bowl last year. So we were like, well, let's go see a show next year when the season rolls around. And so we coordinated and got tickets to this Diana Ross show months ago. And then McKenzie's father was in town. So McKenzie was like, I don't think, you know, I can't go and just bail on my dad. So Nikki and Peeb's daughter, Tony, joined us. But then we found two tickets, two rows in front of us for McKenzie and her dad.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And Diana Ross 81 looks so good, just is beaming. Like her smile is infectious. And those songs, those Supreme songs. are just lights out. She's got a great band, obviously, like, amazing backup singers, and just, yeah, just brought the house down. It was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Well, where Dad must have been jealous. Yeah, I think Dad was jealous. I sent a video to Mom and Dad, and Mom quickly responded with an OMG, all caps. I was worried based on what we've said about Mom and Dad recently that they would respond. That's not my favorite of her songs. Wish this was shot better
Starting point is 00:02:57 Not my favorite of her songs I know what you want more than anything is honesty So yeah so that was a great Great night out that we had recently It was my first time at the bowl this year Which to those of you who haven't been It's worth it Never been. Do you know I've never been?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Oh really? Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that is crazy I'm not a real concert guy though you know That's one of the things Yeah but you couldn't do yeah I think you'd like the bowl I was, you know, we, uh, John Oliver and I did one of our beacon shows, uh, this past Sunday and Brooks Wheelan always opens for us. Fantastic comedian Brooks. By the way, Brooks Wheelan has, I just like want to shout out because this is a travel show. Uh, it's on YouTube. He did a fantastic standup special called Live in Alaska. He went to Alaska to shoot his standup special. And, uh, he, like, toured around to all these little towns where he had to take like sea planes and stuff. And, um, it's a great 45 minute special. And, um, it's a great 45 minute special. but like the beginning and the end of it also is like sort of the travel log of the kind of places and towns he went to and it's really great.
Starting point is 00:04:00 But Brooks noticed that the day after we were there, so Monday night, the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're playing at the Beacon. Ooh, yeah. So he and me, it was like, I'm getting tickets and I'm going and I'm so excited. And I feel like he's like you. And then he just sent me pictures and just having the time of his life at a concert. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've got a solo concert tonight. I'm going to go see the Deltron 30,000.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I think's great. I don't know, 20th, 25th anniversary. Yeah. That's fantastic. I'm super into it. I also last night, you know, promote a wonderful, super funny film
Starting point is 00:04:34 that our friend Akiva Schaffer directed, Naked Gun, starring Liam Neeson. Pam Anderson and I went to the premiere in New York City last night. And it's a very old school. It's like a tight, under 90-minute movie where you're going to laugh a lot, and I highly, highly recommend it.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah, I'll be seeing it. opening weekend in L.A. Fantastic. Yeah. We have Bob Odenkirk on the show today. Bob Odenkirk, I mean, fan forever, it feels like, for Mr. Show, sort of early mixing it up on what comedy could be. Like, we sort of, there are those old tent pole shows.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Like, you know, we had our SNL and, you know, certainly for us, we were watching Monty Python. But then when Mr. Show sort of came out, it was like, oh, other people can do this. And it's like, it's a different attitude, a different vibe, a different, yeah, just sort of take on something that we already love. And it's, I remember our friend Ike was very excited once because he, I feel like on eBay, before it was out on DVD, he bought somebody had, like, recorded it off television. He bought, like, VHS tapes on eBay. And he was so excited because he would just, like, watch him nonstop. And then I feel like two months later, they released it on DVD,
Starting point is 00:05:53 and he realized he probably should just wait it. But, you know, Ike's timing isn't great, but he's a great person. Yeah, and an Emmy nominee. And an Emmy nominee. Yeah, for his work on the studio. We should. We should have gone through the list of all our guests this year and shouted out how many people got nominated for Emmys. Because I bet we did pretty well this year.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, absolutely. A lot of, oh, you know, though, we do have to, because I had her on the show yesterday as well. Dad has officially picked his favorite guest of all time. And I'm just wondering if it lines up with our listeners. I will say it felt pretty special during the recording. I was like, this is the, you know, perfect example of what somebody could bring to this podcast. Yeah. And Dad likes it when people stay on trips.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yep. They like interesting, unique. Yep. So Chase, Chase Sweet Wonders. That is who he currently says, how long. holds the crown. Yeah, best, best yet. And if you think you can run with Chase Sweetwonders
Starting point is 00:06:56 and impress my dad with your trip stories, send them in to speakpipe.com slash family trips pod. We would very much love to say that address one more time, just in case people. Speakpipe.com slash family trips. Yeah, and again, as Larry Meyer says, the more unique, the more unusual, more detailed stories, but you know, you can't, can't ramble as Larry Myers also.
Starting point is 00:07:26 To quote Larry Myers, I think I was the best one on the live podcast and everybody else's stories were too long. So, yeah. But then, yeah, I mean, our pal, Bob Odenkirk sort of took a turn from his comedy roots and, yeah, played Better Call Saul. he was Saul Goodman and sort of a spin-off from Breaking Bad
Starting point is 00:07:54 to amazing shows and then now he's an action star and I saw my Broadway too on Glendor a guy with a just fascinating guy and I'm so happy to talk to him and Pashi let me just say
Starting point is 00:08:07 because I don't say it often enough I like talking to you oh thanks I like talking to you too it's weird I find myself not calling you sometimes because I feel like I'm just going to see you here and I don't want to burn anything. Oh, it's true, right? Yeah. It'll be like a weekend. We used to call on Sundays,
Starting point is 00:08:24 and now I'm sort of like, well, we're going to have a recording tomorrow, so I'll just talk to him then. It's nice. Sometimes we have to talk about the logistics of the podcast, but we are not doing any off-mike storytelling. Right. I mean, well, unless there's something that can't be, you know, everything we share isn't for public consumption. Yeah. I think I said on the pod, when you texted mom and dad, what did you think of when they said we'd listen to the answer? I mean, you said, what you think. Oh, yeah. I did tell you that I wanted to fly to L.A.
Starting point is 00:08:51 and slap the phone out of your hand. Well, when they said it was the first episode that they've watched on YouTube. Yeah. But with no follow-up. Like, we watched the live episode, the first one we've watched on YouTube. Yeah, no, yeah, they were like,
Starting point is 00:09:06 they were putting bait on a hook. And I was good. Yeah, you're not going to take that go. Yeah. I feel like those people, people have watched on YouTube... I want, you know what, I haven't really read the comments, but I hope people talk about how nice my calves are.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you just assuming that's in there? Yeah. I mean, it's historically, it's historically a bit of a conversation started. I mean, so is the sweaty T-shirt and the stained shorts you were wearing for that nice live performance.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I got family trips all over my shorts. All right. Enjoy Bob O'Hourke, but first enjoy Jeff Tweedy. I got a dog. You know my dog, Debbie. She'd bark through the entire thing. She'd be so mad at you. Hold on a second, guys.
Starting point is 00:10:28 My dog has to get surgery. Oh, no. It's all fine. She's going to be fine. What are they doing to her? They took out rotted teeth, and it's not healing properly. So they have to go back in and clean it up. Put the teeth back in.
Starting point is 00:10:44 That's right. Put them back in. They clean them out. They put new nerves in. They got nerves from a baby. You know, it's the Hollywood way. Oh, yeah, of course. Basement of a pizza parlor.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Baby nerves. Trita chrome. Whatever you need from a baby's body. They take it. They got it. Yeah. Your dog is... They have me a pizza.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Nobody talks about the pizza and how good it is. That's the thing. Nobody taught... You're right. Nobody talks about the pizza. I've never heard a yelper. review about the pizza. Your dog is the sweetest, although our dogs don't really get along.
Starting point is 00:11:23 So anytime we see each other, we have to keep our distance. My dog is a better dog now because she had this training. We sent her away for five weeks. See, she was getting into arguments. And the truth is, it's made her life so much better because her life was all tension. and tension at all times. And now it isn't. Now she's just chill and she's doing what she's supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah. This seems like maybe some late in life classes. How old is you done? Look, she was the sweetest dog. She's a sweetest dog. She's a gentle dog. She's a quiet dog. It's just over the years, she's had bad incidents that provoked, I think, this part of her spirit, this bad part of her.
Starting point is 00:12:13 and so we kind of let it go because she's not so big that you can't keep her under control but in the end it's I wish we'd done this six years ago done is she I know your kids are in
Starting point is 00:12:25 their 20s your dog is 12 was she very much a family dog when you got her did she belong to the kids as well yeah man I mean that dog this dog has done so much for us emotionally as dogs can do
Starting point is 00:12:39 we had different challenges with mood how do I talk about this without being any no specifics at all there was tension within the family group yeah and a and a and I thought a dog would help my daughter really wanted a dog and after much searching we happened upon the exact perfect dog who was calm and friendly and fun. And that energy, you know, it's harder when kids get older. It's hard to talk to them, you know. They want to be their own person and they want to be off to themselves. And yet you want to connect to them. And if they're having any kind of issues at all, you know, how do you get them to talk? Well, an animal that's friendly and that everyone loves
Starting point is 00:13:39 is just the best it's something to talk about it is a some it is an a being that elicits and evokes love and warmth and and then there's also this i want to say person creature to talk about and and it just did everything we could ever dream it could do for the family and then this wonderful dog was there for me when i had to do better call saul and you know that job was incredibly stressful, especially the first three years because it was out of my wheelhouse, totally, totally. And I kind of knew that, but I told myself, it's no big deal. It's just acting. I've done a lot of it. I just have more lines. That's it. It's just more lines than you're used to. That's all. But that's not true. That's not true. It's not just more lines. It's the core weight. of the show is on you it's a huge show it's a lot more lines it's not a few more lines
Starting point is 00:14:45 it's you talk for out of a you know 70 60 page script you talk for 50 of those pages you just talk right also I just want to say you know because obviously I'm a huge fan of both shows but I've gone back and you know
Starting point is 00:15:02 rewatching Breaking Bad Saul even though you know three dimensional character always important to the plot you were comic relief in a lot of ways and then all of a sudden you have to be it's like you went from like a three to like a nine dimensional character and other people got to be comic relief and even though uh you know jimmy was still so funny character but i i get it that you would go in and being like oh this you know i i played this character how hard could it be to just do more but my god it was really uh i i i do this all the time i i do things that are you know kind of outside my you know preparation of my career and then I tell myself it's not that big a deal and I insist upon it and if you ask me I say well I don't even know why it's a big deal I don't even know why you're talking about it and then I find myself in the action movie
Starting point is 00:16:01 on the Broadway stage whatever the thing is and I'm like I'm a fucking wreck I'm a fucking and wreck. And I'm like, why am I a wreck? Why do I need therapy again? And I get a therapist and I start talking to them and I realize like, oh, you're doing something that you have no preparation for that if you, even if you don't do it right, thousands of people are going to come see it and decide whether you're any good or not. And you're just keeping choosing to do this stuff. I said to my therapist, my most recent one, I've only started to feel that that old adage, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, is not true.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It's not true. It makes you weaker. You go and get the shit kicked out of you. You don't come out stronger. You come out weaker. You are beat up. Arguably, you know, six years of Saul made me a much, much stronger actor. and a more confident person at acting, for sure, definitely true.
Starting point is 00:17:09 But that took six years. I don't think you could argue that that was true in the first two years. I think I was more beaten up and weakened and unsure of myself after a year and a half of Saul than I was when I started. And you have to do a lot of battle before the battle. makes you stronger. But at first, it makes you weaker and then weaker and then weaker again, until you're going to die. You're going to die. Yeah, that's just a bad adage. That just doesn't roll off the tongue. It's not a good adage, man. These things should be true at all times forever. That's what an adage is. Pick that one out.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I, because I, we've talked about it before, I obviously have a connection to New Mexico because of my wife and her family. And we go back there two weeks a year. Was New Mexico at some point because of the amount of years you spent working there? Was that a place that your family would come and have vacations because you lived there? No. My daughter would. My daughter liked the vibe. We got this house down there and I still have it.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It's a great house. It's so cool. And we rented out to other people who are shooting shows there. But it's just great. It's got a great vibe. It was built by a contractor for his family. And so... Is it closer to Albuquerque or Santa Fe?
Starting point is 00:18:42 It's an Albuquerque. Okay, great. And it's got a certain amount of character and quirkiness to it. It's kind of large, expansive. I shared, you may know from the lore of the show that I, we live together. Me, Ray Sehorn, Patrick Fabian. And there was enough room in this house for people like Josh Fatham. guess to stay there too.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And they would stay, I had friends who were playing character parts on Better Call Saul. I would say, come stay at the house. And they would stay at the house for three days, two, three days. And it was great fun. You know, we had, you go to the kitchen, and there's somebody there, and you're making food, and you're playing music. And we had, it had two living rooms. So you could sit in either one and watch whatever you want on TV.
Starting point is 00:19:30 That's Southwestern Living. It was awesome. The second living room. It was, it was. It was a great way to handle that. Aloneness and that stress of that show. But there was never like, hey, all the Odenkirks are coming down. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:19:45 My son could not handle the altitude. So he visited twice and he was sick for the entire time. He was there. And so he said, I'm not coming down ever again. My wife came once a year for about three days because she's a big wig in showbiz. and she's got work to do and she can't sit around in a house or even sit around on set. What is she doing? She's got to go work.
Starting point is 00:20:13 So only my daughter would love to come and just hang out for a week or two. And that was great. But, you know, that's another thing that's taking its toll on me over the years is location shooting. You know, I've been away from my family of the last 15 years. I've probably been away five years of it. Yeah. Maybe more. You know, last year I was in Winnipeg for five months.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I shot two films back to back. I had a two-week break in the middle where I got to see my family. But they're not coming to Winnipeg. Yeah. Well, also there, I mean, again, especially since Naomi, your wife is in show business, they know there's nothing more boring than visiting a film set. Oh, yeah. And by the way, to do what with me?
Starting point is 00:21:03 I wake up at 5.30. I come home at 9.30. And I wake up again the next morning at 5.30. And you're probably going over lines when you're not there. And then what do I do? I'm going over punches. Yeah, exactly. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.
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Starting point is 00:25:55 And there's literally three things that you've done in the last 10 years that I would not have been able to game out. Like what, you know, I've seen you on Broadway in the last year. You know, Better Call Saul was just this incredible drama that you were the lead of. And yet the most shocking is that you are, where in action movies stars and now a franchise. Yeah. Because I loved nobody so much. And I can't, it's so, it is both wonderful that there's more and it's deeply funny to me
Starting point is 00:26:24 that you are and now yeah set set the whole time i'm training the whole time i'm training for years i trained you know and i and i figured they're never going to make the movie but i'm getting free exercise training which i need and that's good for me so i'll take it and any day now they'll call and say well we're not making that movie so you can stop and i'll go thank you i got a year of free i learned about how to move and different exercises you could do and um And I pushed myself. I just learned so much. But the whole time I'm training, I'm thinking they're not going to make it.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It's okay. And two, I'm thinking, wait, if they make it. And even if it's just okay, waddle smigel sees this, waitel Conan sees this, wadle sandler sees this, wadle spade sees this. Like, those guys will be like, what is on the TV right now? How did he get in that fucking movie? There's no way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And so I'm like grinning to myself thinking, boy, if I pull this off, that'll just be the funniest thing ever. What a prank. Yeah. I mean, the scene on the bus, really, that was when I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. It's not a comedy. It's a funny action movie, but it's not a comedy action movie. Well, yeah, but you know, listen, I don't think I could have done a light kind of like, I love Jackie Chan.
Starting point is 00:27:54 and I love police story that one of his early films. I talk about it a lot. I watch a lot of his early films, but I especially love that film because in our family, we had this difficult chapter in our lives, and it was kind of hard to connect. And that movie was something that we all watched. We watched planes, trains, and automobiles, police story.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And if you can believe it, the movie Zellig, these are odd films and the kids love these films and they could watch them and we could connect it was actually very hard to sit together for the length of a movie at this time
Starting point is 00:28:37 and we were able to watch these films so there was a great I had a great affection for them beyond you know just appreciating Jackie's skill and the entertainment value of those films but you know I knew that I couldn't do that
Starting point is 00:28:53 not only because, you know, I'm not even close to what Jackie Chan's shape he was in and the gymnastic aspects of what he did in those films. But I'm already Bob Odenker coming in, you know, kind of, you know, storming the gates of genre, action genre. If I act, if I'm too cute or it's too soft, they're going to go like, well, you didn't even try. I mean, you're just trying to protect yourself. because you'll be embarrassed if it doesn't work,
Starting point is 00:29:24 so you just didn't really do it. You did it, but you didn't really do it. So I couldn't do that. I had to fully commit, lay into it, be harsh, be intense, and obviously potentially make a huge ass of myself if it didn't work. But I'm able to sell that rage because guess what? Guess who's got real problems? Is the therapist, when you go to your therapist, they're like,
Starting point is 00:29:57 let's not mess with the moneymaker, Bob. That's not, we don't want to take too much rage. Are we don't want to take the rage away? Yeah, that's not, that's not going to happen. So let's take it back to Neighborville because you mentioned hard for you all to sit. You're the second of seven? Oh, I'm the second oldest of seven kids, yeah. Okay, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And so what's the length of time between the old list in the youngest. I think it's 15 years. All right. Gotcha. Yeah. Which is crazy that there's seven kids in my family because, you know, my dad was never home. Yeah. It's so weird. I mean, he came home seven times. And it's the joke, but we know he came home seven times. But really, I mean, I didn't, you know, he was around when I was like, until I was around five or six, I would see him a fair amount you know like almost every day but then he's there less and less and less and yet the children kept coming it's a catholic family yeah my mom was very very um into catholicism she tried to join a convent when my uh youngest sister was turned 18 she signed up and had an interview and
Starting point is 00:31:19 did she not did she get turned down the mother superior called her and said okay i'm looking at your what you wrote here and all and she goes do you uh this is interesting that my mom actually shared this story with me yeah um she the mother superior said um do you believe that you have a calling to be a nun you know and my mom said yes yes i do and then then the mother superior says well i'm going to tell you you something, you already have a calling. You're a mother. You need to do that job. And then she went on to say, we've had many women like you come to us and say they want to join the convent, join the order. It's not going to happen. We're not doing it. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:32:12 You don't, you think it works, but it doesn't work. It's amazing that she did that. And it's amazing that my mom shared that with me because it's embarrassing to her. Well, maybe she needed to justify why she wasn't a nun that she wanted to do this thing. She sure didn't need to do it to me because I left the church when I was 16. I went to my mom. I said, hey, I'm so sorry. You know, I had read the Bible. I had made notes in it. Because I was like, this just doesn't make sense. I'm tired of this. It's annoying. It's like, it's such a bummer. But maybe I'm missing something, me, you know, so I take out the Bible. I'm reading it. I'm making notes. I try to get through the whole thing. I didn't, but I got pretty far into it. And then I just said, I just don't believe in this.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And I think it's disrespectful for me to attend church. I am standing there and I don't agree with this whole thing. So I'm going to stop going. And I hope you've, I hope you know I respect you and I respect the effort you made and and pretty much every kid pretty much fell away from i was going to ask of the seven did yeah um let's see i don't think there's a single one that attends catholic services now my kids went to temple israel of hollywood and they were both bar mitzvah and my mom loved that And she came out to L.A. to attend their bar mitzvahs. She loved it. She loved it.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Was it just that she wanted them to have some spirituality? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And I think that it is, you know, the other kids in my family, if they go to church, they go to a lighter Christian scenario, you know. Yeah. And that she probably hates all. she probably hated that compared to you know it's that old thing of like there's a great book
Starting point is 00:34:15 where these two rabbis argue and uh they're real people and they have the it's letters back and forth it's an orthodox rabbi and a reform rabbi and that orthodox which would be my mom they hate the reform way more than they hate a Muslim right of course Like, way more. Like, I would rather you believe in the Easter Bunny and that's your religion than you say you're Jewish and be reformed. Don't agree with me. Better to do it differently than to do what I'm doing, but do it wrong. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And so she had that attitude and I think she really loved that the kids were in this older version of her own religion. You know, I mean, look, I think religion. is, you know, it's so weird. In some ways, I, this is a mucky subject. Do you want to get into this? We should talk about nobody, too, and how much fun you'll have at the theater. Hey, I want to tell you, nobody two really turned out.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And, of course, there's a great deal of luck when any movie turns out. There just is. It doesn't matter how hard you work. Yeah. there are too many moving parts. And for it to come together, you're like, how the hell did that happen? I know I worked nonstop for a year and a half. And I sweated all night long when I was supposed to be asleep about the logic of this,
Starting point is 00:35:56 what it's happening, what are we seeing, is it working? I know I did all that work. And I know all these other people did all that work. I still don't believe it worked. I can't believe it worked. But it did. It came together and not only did it come together. So I had this like vision for nobody to, that it could be a more inclusive film.
Starting point is 00:36:20 There's something about, look, the fact that you like nobody won, Seth. And Josh, I'm assuming you might have liked it too. I do. I did. So look, I mean, we're people and most of the people we know, like probably don't even watch a lot of action movies. Especially in comparison to the guys that I work with on these films, they watch everything. Yeah. They know every, they know Korean action films from 1950s.
Starting point is 00:36:46 They know films you've never heard of and that you'll never see. And if you ever go to like Netflix and you go action movies and you see all these movies that Liam Neeson made and you're like, what? When did he make that? They watch all of those. You don't just watch them. They watch and go, oh, I see. Okay. fight in the warehouse i've never seen i've i've never seen anyone throw a wrench at another person's
Starting point is 00:37:13 knee and that's new you know um they they are picking up the little details and they care about it so um so i make nobody one i figure if i can please some of the action people that'll be awesome that'll be amazing and then if i can make my friends laugh those are the two goals right and then it plays really well and people like it and all kinds of people like it who I would never so many people I don't like action films and I love that movie I don't watch action films and that's my one of my favorite movies of last year I never watch films like that I've heard it so many times and mostly from women yes but from all kinds of people and all around the world I've done a fair amount of traveling in the last three years and
Starting point is 00:38:07 And it doesn't matter where I am. That movie has played and played well and the same story from people. And I just think I had to think a lot about that. Why are they connecting to it? Why is it working? And I think my thought was if in the first act of these films, you really, really ground the character so that the person watching goes, that, I mean, that's my family. that's that's life in my house you fucking forget the garbage cans you yeah that's you really connect with them you know it's it's you really feel that family tension of of life just beating
Starting point is 00:38:50 you down of just schedules and people flying in all directions and trying to connect with your kids and it's not working and they're mad at you and you didn't you're not noticing that they're growing up and you're just you're you're the husband and wife are kind of drifting apart because life is so overful you know if i can just touch base with all of that angst and common you know tension then once we start going into the world of action and they start acting out all their frustrations and then they get to have this big magical cinematic bad guy come into their world
Starting point is 00:39:35 and in the case of nobody too it's Sharon Stone which I can't believe I was so thrilled that she said yes I met her at an award show and she was very nice to me
Starting point is 00:39:46 and you know how it is you guys when people like that know who you are and you're like it's the best why do you know why yeah but when you get compliments from people
Starting point is 00:39:58 who are established and you know classic film stars and she was very nice and um and i wrote her a note and i said i hope you'll consider doing this film it's a genre movie and you would be asked to be as big as you can be i the goal is to have that bad guy at the end the third act of uh the nobody film be a james bond villain you know so that the regular guy through these machinations of the movie gets to blow all his rage at at something that's somewhat worthy of that rage you know a magically bad overinflated um evil human so she was down for it as you'll see if you see the movie
Starting point is 00:40:51 she she went big and that's what we wanted her to do um anyway all these people who'd seen the movie and liked it. And I thought, if I could make a movie that really played for, you know, kept that in mind, you know, all the women, all the moms who loved the first film. So there's, we got this great director. He's an Indonesian director, Timo Cajanto. He makes really dark films. I mean, he makes really intense action horror film. And I love that.
Starting point is 00:41:28 And I wanted something with a different, you know, spirit. But I also wanted it to be more inclusive, not less inclusive. I didn't want it to be darker than the first film. And we just got this great balance. We got lucky, man. And we got this editor. A lot of times an editor on a film can just save a movie. Not that it needed saving, but she,
Starting point is 00:41:57 just whipped this thing into magical shape and the challenges that we had with stupid things like story, movement, and time passage. She fixed them. She fixed them without
Starting point is 00:42:13 fixing them. I can't I think it's funny that thing you say about like the luck. I remember when I first started like going to like meetings in Hollywood and you would go into an executive's office and I would see posters of movies that were sort of universally panned.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And I remember commenting once to someone like, I can't, why would you have that poster up? And someone said, because they worked as hard on that movie as they worked on the movies that were universally loved. And like, it is, it is like a, it's a monument to hard work. Like, there are no, movies never bombed because people were lazy on set. Right, right. I'm going to, I'm going to shut the door here.
Starting point is 00:42:52 All right. There's people making noise. Yes, it's true. It's true. Every movie was just as hard as the best movie you've ever seen. It's really, it's generally true, right? Yeah. And it's, and the other thing is, I finished those two films and they're cutting them together.
Starting point is 00:43:20 The other film is called Normal. It's going to play TIF, the Toronto Film Festival. And it's an action comedy. You went from nobody to normal. Yeah. And you literally shot. Like, that sounds like the most a guy is lying to his family when it's like, I'm going to Winnipeg.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I'm shooting nobody, then I'm shooting normal. I'm sure people in Winnipeg are like, come on, man. Don't do us like that. Oh, no, they are so happy. I'm sure they are. They loved us. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.
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Starting point is 00:47:14 or try the app free for seven days at FitBod. Dot me slash trip. That's F-I-T-B-O-D dot-M-E. How is Winnipeg? Tell us something about Winnipeg, a place I've never been. Winnipeg is an amazing, interesting place. It's very quiet and calm and chill. They could have a few more restaurants. They're getting done. They're getting some. Okay, great. There's some great ones, but they could, you know, they could have more and they're getting more. It's an interesting place.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's a bit of a curious place because it's pretty big. 850,000 people live there. It has some really beautiful neighborhoods. There's one in particular that I would walk through. I'd have to drive to go there and have these beautiful gardens. I'll see if I can find the name of it. And it has a river running through it. It's sort of a lazy river.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And it had a, I guess it had a, the population has never dropped. It's only grown. It had a heyday in the early 1900s. And there's all these banks. I think it was meant to be a, well, they're not listing it. I'll find it. It's important for me to share it with you. The neighborhood that you love
Starting point is 00:48:50 That you never learned the name of Well, I knew how to get there Yeah, just find the river I'll just get a map of Winnipeg That'll get me there It's kind of like Albuquerque, right? So it's easy So film-wise, it's super easy to use
Starting point is 00:49:10 Like you can take the whole crew Across town in the middle of the day And shoot, you could shoot You can shoot somewhere in the morning and then go across town, park it, the whole circus, and then shoot more. And you can do that and no problem. You won't have any issues with traffic or slowing down and everything's easy to get to Wellington, Walsley neighborhood, the Walsley neighborhood. Go take a walk through the Walsley neighborhood next time you're in Winnipeg. I promise you.
Starting point is 00:49:42 It's got a great park down by the river. It's got a AAA baseball team. Yeah, I love those. Is that a Toronto Blue Jays? It is, yeah, I think it's Toronto Blue Jays. It's got some great old architecture in a place called the Exchange District, which could double for the village. Greenwich Village in New York.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Oh, wow. It's, um, so it had these spurts of growth and they built all these buildings. So you can, you can duplicate a modern city. You can duplicate, you have these great suburbs. You have these suburbs that look like England. You have, um, this exchange district. Not only is it like from the early 1900s, like perfect architecture for Greenwich Village in New York, but they, they, they, they,
Starting point is 00:50:46 do that thing that you've seen on backlots they have those curved streets you know how on a back lot a back lot in hollywood it looks you know like foe greenwich village or whatever an old old american city but you go there's one thing that's really not right which is the street turns at the end and no streets do that because um that's only there so that when you shoot down that's street that you know that you can't see the real world through the open you know streets are straight generally yeah so that there aren't palm trees in new york city in your movies right yeah well in winnipeg they've got that same thing but they really genuinely built the city that way the streets turn and it's great it means you don't have to fake uh that part of the set anyway uh i met a lot of great
Starting point is 00:51:45 people there. There's a lot of musicians there, a lot of professional musicians and because I think, because they can afford homes there. And also, you may know Neil Young is from there. Yeah. And I don't
Starting point is 00:52:01 know, I got some good friends there, who I still talk to. And I don't know. I liked it. I liked it. And the same way I like Albuquerque, which is, it takes a little while to get to know it.
Starting point is 00:52:20 You have your favorite places, and the people are awesome. The people are awesome. That would be a place I'd very much like to go. And they all do this, Seth. You like it here, right? What do you think? What do you think? You know the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:52:39 You've been to those cities where it's like, where they, it's like you're implying that I shouldn't. or that All right. Your expectation is that you don't. They just feel the world at large maybe is undervaluing them. They know they're being judged and is not having enough good restaurants. But they've apparently they've taken it to heart if they're working on it.
Starting point is 00:53:03 But, you know, that's just not how you live life. I mean, you get your places that you love. That's true wherever you go. I mean, how many times New York will drive you crazy with this? that thing of like, I've never eaten in that restaurant. I've walked by it 50 times. And it looks great. It looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I bet it's great. But I like my place that I go to. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, when I'm in town and my family's out of town, which happens in the suburb, my wife is so mad that I, because she, like, our seamless account is linked. When she sees I'm ordering the same dish from the same Chinese place, she's like, what is wrong with you? I'm like, I've found my grail. Like, I look forward to it all day.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Sounds like you need to have a separate Grubhub account. I know. That's really. Yeah. My wife is the same way. Never the same place twice. She'll say it. And I go, really, really? You went into that restaurant. They have 40 things on the menu. You had two of them. And you won't go there again. That's not fair. That's not right. And then, but she's really mad is that we do go back to that restaurant and I order the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would, like, obviously you've seen a great amount of the world through your career. But like as a kid in Naperville with seven siblings, I'm imagining, is it safe to say you did not travel a lot? Oh, yeah. We took two trips.
Starting point is 00:54:30 We went to the Illinois State Fair, which was fine and, you know, hot and dusty. You went once or annual trips? Once, once. And we went one time to the Wisconsin del. which is where this kind of our movie is set, Nobody 2. So a lot of that, Wisconsin Dells trip, you guys, the first outline for Nobody 2, Derek Colstead came up with, was me and Connie Nielsen, the husband and wife, in Italy.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And it was like a three-page outline. And we're in Italy because we talk about Italy in the first film. And where the kids are on at summer vacation in America, And we're in Italy, and somewhere on the middle of page two, my character is on a gondola, and he throws back a tarp, and it's filled with guns and ammo. And my wife read the outline, Naomi read it, and I read it, and I was smiling, it makes me smile. And she read it, and she goes, we get to go to Italy. All right, all right, that could be good. And I'm like, yeah, boy, I'm a real movie star.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I get to go to Italy. But the more I thought of it, the more I was like, oh, man, the minute he's on a gondola and he throws a tarp back and it's full of guns, he's Jason Bourne. He's James Bond. And that's not who he is. He doesn't get to go to Italy. He doesn't get to ride on a gondola. He doesn't get to. Maybe if he goes and stays at the Venetian in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Right. So you talked your way to Winnipeg, to shooting Winnipeg for Wisconsin. I sure fucking did. And I called Derek. And Derek's from Wisconsin, the writer. I go, Derek, this is so great. It was like, I want to say it was a week later. Because I really was like, really, you're going to steal this fun of going to Italy and being a movie star from yourself?
Starting point is 00:56:41 And I go, it's just, it's just now. what we're doing here. And I go, what about the Dells? What about they go to the Dells? And the truth is, you guys, I took my kids to the Dells. I went there as a kid, right? Yeah. I took my kids to the Dells when they were like six and eight. And it was from L.A.? Yeah. Okay. So you went, okay, yeah. Because I told my wife, it's great. You're going to love it. And the kids are going to love it. And we did love it. And the problem was shooting at the Dells besides we didn't get it. a tax break going to Wisconsin was it's too nice it's too big it's kind of huge they've got like four or five at least huge water parks like massive like a feat of engineering seventh wonder of the
Starting point is 00:57:30 world shit yeah and they've got a huge main drag and it's just not what I remember and it's not what I wanted to do because part of the fun of this movie and part of that tension thing that I talk to you guy's about is he takes his family to this town. He tells them it's going to be great. You're going to love it. It's huge. The water park is massive. But two things he's getting wrong. One, he was nine when he went. Right, right. It's not massive. It was massive to him. And it's the only vacation he ever went on, which is similar to my situation, right? That was an amazing trip. But yeah, you never went anywhere else you i never rode on a plane until i went to uh till i was 21 you know so the other thing he does that i love and i'm not sure many people will catch this but there's a
Starting point is 00:58:25 scene that they left in that i had a lot to do with that i i love which is he he's bringing these kids to where he went as a kid and he's telling them it's going to be great and it's amazing and they've got a huge water park and he's talking to a kid who's 13 the girl and his son is 18 and he's not doing the math of like well i was nine this 18 year old is not going to think that's a big water park but in his mind it's just this he's just not recognizing what's happening and the other thing he does that I love that they left in is he books the hotel rooms and he puts the two kids in the same hotel room and of course the minute he gets there he opens the door and there's these two little beds and there and the wife goes they can't share a room the 18 year old boy and a 13 year
Starting point is 00:59:29 old girl. And he knows he's wrong right away. He knows he's like, God damn it. Of course they can't share it. What was I thinking? I was thinking about when I was a kid and I shared a room here. But you just do that sometimes as a parent. I've done that. I will say the trip to the Dells worked out. They were the right age. Yeah. But I could easily. Did Naomi agree? Like, that's a big sale. Not really. She because of mosquitoes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She can't deal with mosquitoes. And I think there's certain places. New Hampshire where you grew up
Starting point is 01:00:03 a very buggy. Certainly the Midwest, very buggy. If you're not used to that. Yeah. It's a whole thing. They're everywhere. And it's, yeah. If they're coming for you, they're coming for you.
Starting point is 01:00:15 And they want your blood. And they're coming for Naomi. If there's one mosquito in the room, it'll come get her. Do you think it's like fresh fish to them? It's like, ooh, you've never been in our parts. Well, supposedly, they can smell certain blood-stress. drains. Yeah, gotcha.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Any highlights that you remember from your childhood trip to the Dells? Oh, yeah. I remember the little hotel pool. It was not that big. It was it all seven? Was it seven kids? Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 01:00:43 We weren't up to seven at that point. Okay. We stopped doing vacations after four kids, I think. Four was probably the max, maybe five. The state fair was maybe five. We all fit in the Impala station wagon. Gotcha. It was just a huge station wagon.
Starting point is 01:01:03 We all fit in there for that trip. So it probably was four or five. But anyway, I remember sitting in bed. It's probably reading a book. But the door was open to the hotel room. And of course, there was like four people sleeping in this bedroom. But it was daytime. And I was sitting there.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And the sun was beautiful. And the pool was full. And it was like vacation. It was great. It was, I mean, I was reading a book, but I swam a lot, too. And it was just like everything you love is right here in front of me. I can read a book. I can go out there and jump in that pool.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's sunny. Everyone's kind of happy. It was great. And the Dells I went to more than once because I was a Boy Scout. And we would camp in Wisconsin once a month, once every two months. We went there a lot. And we would go to the Dells occasionally, you know, as like when I was 13, 14, 15, although I was only a scout till I was 13, I guess, or 14.
Starting point is 01:02:07 So, yeah, so I'd been there. It's a great town. What was the Naperville to the Dells Drive? Is that like two? No big deal. Oh, nothing. It's two and a half hours, maybe. Maybe it's two.
Starting point is 01:02:17 And when you're there with your scout troop, are you guys just sort of let loose out in the Dells? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's party time. That's fucking, what do they call it when all the Navy guys, are walking around. Oh, Fleet Week? That's Fleet Week. Yeah. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:02:33 That's Fleet Week. That's what it was. And like, is it just like arcades and, uh... Yeah, it's arcades and churros and... And, yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. It's funny to remember how social arcades were for, you know, kids our age. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Like, when you think about, like, all the things that have, like, again, like, obviously video games. are better than they've ever been. But, like, that was a thing you could actually, like, physically do with people and have, like, a social interaction. Yeah. I mean, do arcades, they exist somewhat, right? There's still that, like, Dave and Buster's world, but it's so, I feel like it's very expensive. It's not like a thing where you just, like, I mean, again, I'm dating us, but, like, pocketful of quarters.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Give your kids, like, 50 bucks to, like, go and four rides. There was an arcade in L.A. that just shut down, unless they moved. that was sort of like cool and fun. There was a great one downtown in Los Angeles called 82, I think, which is when it was the year that was the height of arcade games, and that's why they were called 82.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It was a very popular spot. I don't know if it's still there or not, but it's a good night out. I remember going to the arcade and not playing, just hanging out. Sure, yeah. You know, I mean, I played a little. I didn't love those kinds of games, but I play a little, but just be there. Yeah. Yeah. And it was a nice fun thing to do. Do you, are you somebody when you were a kid, did you like a water slide? Sure, yeah. I love swimming. I love water slides. Yeah, absolutely. We didn't have many and they weren't very impressive. But not like now. Yeah. Yeah. The advancements in water slide technology, America has led the way.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Which is amazing because water is the same. And yet they just, I mean, the advancement. that they made. Yeah, space age polymers, I think, stepped into the game. Einstein died. He was working. I know the last thing he was working on was a giant water sign. And it sounds like there weren't a lot of highlights from the state fair. Any particular lowlights, or was it just a...
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yes, there was a funny, funny lowlight that I'll never forget. A woman... Wait, we're in Illinois. Springfield, Illinois? It was Springfield, yes. Yeah, okay, gotcha. And we were. went to yeah we went to the lincoln sites and uh but the highlight for me was a woman in an auditorium
Starting point is 01:05:10 that was not remotely full doing a one woman's show with a hat rack her and a hat rack with these different hats and then she would put them on and be like my name is Angela. I am very particular about my, you know, diet. I da-da-da-da-da. She was doing, you know, hat characters. Oh, wow. And it was like...
Starting point is 01:05:42 It sounds like a Mr. Show sketch. Oh, man. Well, I did a thing in my one-man show that was one of the great... that Tom Giannis and I wrote. And it was... I would come out and I would say, hey, you guys, this has been fun.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I've been doing a lot of written material. I'm going to improv. I love improv. I'm really good at it. I have a box of hats here. I don't know what's in there. I haven't looked in, but I'm going to pull them out one at a time and create characters right here,
Starting point is 01:06:10 right in front of your eyes. So if you're up for it, look out. Here we go. And then it's all the same baseball hat. There's four baseball hats, identical. And I play different characters. I mean, I'm different positions. I'm the catcher.
Starting point is 01:06:33 I'm the pitcher. Then I'm the catcher. Then I'm the shortstop. And by the time I get to the shortstop, I have to go like, hey, pitch it right in there. Yeah, give it to him. Give it some heat. I'm the shortstop. And then my character reaches in and he gets a fireman's helmet.
Starting point is 01:06:52 And he looks at it. He doesn't know what to do with it and throws it away. And then he gets one. One more baseball hat, and I forget the final joke. You being at a state fair and seeing a woman with a hat rack, if they made a biopic about you, that would be one of the scenes in the beginning. Where you'd be like, what is, what's the moment where they go on their path? Can you believe she inspired that my career? She did.
Starting point is 01:07:18 You really, I mean, I think, like, it's so funny. Like, I think people think, like, if kids love theater, they should go see good theater. But, like, if kids love comedy, they should go see bad theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, to make fun of it. Yeah. And to riff on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:32 What about you guys? Did you guys go on any family trips when you were kids? We did. I mean, we drove a lot to go see, you know, grandparents. We had some in Pittsburgh. We had some in Massachusetts when we were living in Michigan. And then we were like, we would go to Florida. But it is funny because I think that I, that, like, book and pool is sort of my dream.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And it is a good reminder that it doesn't really have to be fancy as a kid just having the freedom to, you know. be able to jump at the water and then maybe go have some time by yourself is pretty special. Yeah. What was the best vacation you guys went on as kids? The one you remember were fondly with a... Well, we always say the worst one, like there was one... We remember the worst. ...called molasses pond where my mom got bit by a bug and almost had her arm amputated.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Her arm swelled up like Popeye. But it's so funny because, like, we were like the four of us, like, we did laugh a lot when things went bad. Yeah. And so that, I don't know, I sometimes think things being funny or is more memorable than things being good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we certainly had a lot of laughs in our house. So my dad was this really erratic guy who had alcohol problems, but he just was like shut down, you know? He couldn't talk about much. And I think he was a smart guy. And he was funny, too. He would make wisecracks. He also would share sort of. sort of salesman jokes and which I always thought that's corny man um and he he loved he and he loved he loved the Benny Hill show so that was the height of his sense of humor but he did make good wisecracks that were kind of mean spirited he had an angry sarcastic riffing energy
Starting point is 01:09:19 that occasionally was awesome um did your other siblings have that was that sort of the I don't know. Was that the currency in the house? Yeah, I mean, my mom was funnier than my dad, though. She was really funny. She was, it's that Midwestern, you know, self-deprecating and not just self-deprecating, other deprecating. Deprecating of everything. Deprecation of others.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Of everything. Yeah. Everything except religion. Yeah. I got to tell you guys something. This is so funny. So Smigel and I wrote the super fans, you know, the Barry. guys, right? And it's Robert's idea and his Robert's structure and I just could pitch jokes on
Starting point is 01:10:03 that because I grew up in Chicago. And we, it was this, the characters were successful enough that they asked us to write a film. And we had a good time riffing out a huge sprawling 155 page screenplay that we never went any further than that. But we got paid to do that. And the opening scene was so great and it was um the the super fans are in church it's sunday morning and they're in their suits and they've got they've got earwigs in one ear and they're listening to the pregame for the bears game and as they're looking up at the stained glass in their local parish it's turning from saints into walter peyton or you know what i mean or dicka and the and you you reveal that the priest doing his sermon also has an earwagon. He's also listening to the
Starting point is 01:11:02 game and it's kind of fucking him up. And then he rushes through the end, rushes, rushes, to get it done. And as they run out, they run out of the church, they run to their cars, they rip off their suits and they have all their gear underneath, all their fan gear underneath. So I thought it was a great opening. I thought, you know, there wasn't much of the comedy that I wrote that I could share with my mom because she just, it was harsh. You know, a lot of Mr. Show stuff is harsh. You guys, I don't know what your parents' attitude towards your career is, but I remember my mom calling me when I was on SNL,
Starting point is 01:11:41 and I never asked her to watch it or anything when I was a writer there. And she goes, Bob, I can't watch that show. And I go, what? And she goes, I tried, but I can't watch that. And I go, oh, you don't have to, that's not for you. It's not for you. You don't have to watch it. I never asked her to watch it.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Anyway, I go, Mom, you're going to love this. It's in church. The guys aren't listening. They're listening to the pregame show. They can't wait for it. Even the priests can't wait for 10. Church ends.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Why did I think she would like this? And as they leave, they're run out. They tear their clothes off. They've got their fan gear underneath. You know, it's just like real people. You know people are doing that in church. You know they're waiting for it to end, especially the guys.
Starting point is 01:12:25 You know, I thought you'd think that was funny. And she goes, yeah, yeah, that's funny. But do you think it would be funnier if they were Protestant? Can you believe that? I mean, talk about protecting the shield. Yeah, that's right. That's really great. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:12:47 That's amazing. Oh, my God. this has been fantastic thank you so much we're so excited for nobody to yeah we're going to ask you Josh is going to speed around you all right here we go Bob you can only pick one of these is your ideal vacation relaxing adventurous or educational adventurous what is your favorite means of transportation I'm going to say why is this a revelation a private jet yeah that could be pretty Nice. If you can take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Real or fictional? Well, my favorite sitcom of all time is called The Royal Family.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Oh, yeah, it's a British show. It's spelled R-O-Y-L-E. I think it's more than, it's a really, I think it's a masterpiece. It's a half-hour comedy. comedy that is about human dynamics in a way that you can't believe how smart and subtle it is and how funny it is. So I'd go with that bunch of crazy maniacs. Love it. Great. And just laugh at them. But also I like telling people about that show. Yeah. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My wife. Lovely. I think I know the answer to this one. But you're from Naperville, would you recommend Naperville as a vacation destination? No.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Yeah. That's a great place. Sure. I wouldn't go there on vacation. Okay. And Seth has our final questions. Have you been to the Grand Canyon, Bob? I have.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Was it worth it? It was, it's the first time I swore in front of my kids. Because you are so in mom? Because my son almost fell over the fucking. edge because they don't have a railing hub. They don't have a railing would be a huge railing. Do you want to
Starting point is 01:14:58 hear what I'm saying? You have kids? Do you want to take them to the Grand Canyon? Keep in mind there's no railing on the walkway, the nice walkway and if your son is walking on the rocks like this on the side
Starting point is 01:15:14 of the walkway. How old did they make it before the first time you swore in front of him? How old was he when swore oh he was probably eight wow oh my god well done yeah i never would have pegged you for making it that long i swore right in his face like to him to be i fucking told you not to walk on those rocks well i'm sure it holding off those eight years made it josh both josh and my dad used uh swore at my uh my oldest son when he was what six oh yeah really well he was being well he was being being a fucking dick, so.
Starting point is 01:15:53 He pushed his, he pushed his brother off a rock. And so, uh, two, my, you know, two, so my, my, my middle's uncle and, and grandfather were, we were looking out for him. But, uh, yeah, I'll tell you, man, my, my, my oldest still dines out on it, like, it's the greatest trauma of his life. Oh, really? Wow. He's always like, sometimes I think back to that.
Starting point is 01:16:11 And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, shut the fuck. In my head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get it out of your head. Get it out of your lips and right into his face. Uh, thank you, Bob. Thanks, guys. Great seeing you all.
Starting point is 01:16:22 It's always the best to see you. Thanks, buddy. Take care. Thank you. Hang around with his troop down at the Dells. Playing arcade games, riding water slides as well. Oh, strutting around with all his childhood friends. Now he's all grown up, and also he's got friends in Winnipeg.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Chicago to New York to Hollywood, and towns that are more quirky. He worked with Gild again So good man He's got a killer bat in Albuquerque And he's got friends And Winnipe And he's got friends in Winnipe I'm going to be able to be.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Oh, down in Springfield went to the same there walked into a theater That's where we saw a woman with some hats Oh, it was weird and wonderful It was a one-one woman show She had a bunch of hats upon a rack She put one on and then off she would go That crazy woman with the hats Woman, a woman with the hats.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Woman, a woman with the hats. Woman, woman, woman with the hats. Branson, Brinsett, Brinsett, Brinsett, Brinsett, Brinsett. Prinsettins with a pay. Did it Did it Did it Goodwife
Starting point is 01:19:43 Chris A man and woman woman woman woman woman woman with the head Oh, so we're now Thanks We have a hockey team that is
Starting point is 01:20:12 a chance Thank you.

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