Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - BRIAN BAUMGARTNER Played With Alligators

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Brian Baumgartner joins Seth and Josh on the pod this week! He talks all about growing up in Atlanta, vacations to the Caribbean, snorkeling adventures, playing with alligators, chasing armadillos, and so much more! Plus, he chats about his new golf podcast, "We Need A Fourth." Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Support our sponsors: Tavola For a limited time save up to $300 on the Tovala smart oven when you order meals 6+ times by heading to Tovala.com/TRIPS and use our code TRIPS. Remember: With Tovala, dinner is taken care of. Laundry Sauce Make laundry day the best day of the week! Get 20% off your entire order @LaundrySauce with code TRIPS at https://laundrysauce.com/TRIPS #laundrysaucepod Fabric Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at meetfabric.com/trips. Policies issued by Western-Southern Life Assurance Company. Not available in certain states. Prices subject to underwriting and health questions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Abaji, I-Sufi. You have been family tripping. I have been family tripping. Really impressive. Yeah, and it's going to kind of just continue here. But, yeah, I went to Ireland for a wedding. Our good friend, Brendan Hunt, and his now wife, Shannon Nelson. I don't know if she took his name.

Yeah. I don't know. That doesn't matter anymore. Not important. We love her either way. So we went We still haven't had time To take our honeymoon

We've had a bunch of trips We had that Amsterdam trip earlier in the year We had this pop up It's almost been a full year It's almost been a full year And it's gonna wait a little bit longer Then I'm sorry I don't think it's a honeymoon I think you guys are just going on vacation

I think if it's after 12 months So we Yeah we're not letting another wedding dictate What we're doing for our honeymoon But we did take the opportunity to go away for like eight days before we met up with everyone at the wedding and just sort of bopped around Ireland. And it was fantastic.

It was great. I would imagine a beautiful time of the year to be in Ireland. Yeah, it was really nice. I mean, lots of rain off and on, lots of windy days. But we landed and do you watch Bad Sisters? Yeah. Yeah. We're big fans of Bad Sisters.

And very often, they go. go to the 40-foot, which is sort of a place people go jump in, I think, the Irish Sea. But it's like on the south of Dublin, and we looked it up. And we landed at like 2.30. And we got a nice hotel for the first night because, you know, we're just going to be taking this long flight. That's your honeymoon, whether you guys want to call it that or not. And we rented a car and we drove right to the 40-foot from the plane. and had a little backpack with our bathing suits in it and one travel towel.

And it was just so great to sort of drive up and park and walk down there. And there are these like old Irish dudes. And I sort of just, you know, scanned it over and then walked back to the car. And a guy was like, oh, you decided against it, did you? And I was like, no, no, no, we're going to do it. I just wanted to sort of get a lay of the land. And we went in that water and it was great. It woke you right up.

Mackenzie was sort of intimidated by the cold, but also knew that she would regret it and was so happy that she got in. Also, I mean, it is kind of the warmest time of the year, but when these Irish people get in the water, they don't, no one screams. Yeah. No one has that sort of, that yelp of like, oh my, you know, they're just very quiet. And I think they're just, you know, they're just kind of resigned. to what the world gives them. This is what the water is. Complaint, it's not going to change it.

I did ask a guy who was in the water as we're sort of, you know, just sort of treading water. I was like, why does no one yell? And he was like, oh, if you come in the middle of winter, people will be taking the Lord's name in vain, but he won't be here. And also to our friend, Melanie from Sligo, from one of our listener episode. I think we've really gotten, I've gotten my Irish accent perfectly, everyone over there. Oh, good. That's just perfect. Yeah. The, uh, why did they call it the 40 foot? Is it? I don't know. Okay. I didn't look it out. Great. I know it used to be just for men. Um, and now, obviously, women go there as well. And there were plenty of women there as well.

Uh, I had Sharon Horgan on my show, and I did say that I, even though it's surrounded by water, I never think of Irish people going to the beach or getting in the ocean. Yeah. And so that show has. opened my eyes to the fact that they do a great amount of swimming. With that said, I, just from watching the show, thought that water looked cold. Yeah, that water's cold. And also on that show, they wear, and a couple people, when we were there, had these great, long jackets that are sort of like towels on the inside and have hoods. And they're called, like, changing coats or something. And you're jealous when you see those. because getting in the water is cold,

but then getting out of the water is almost the coldest because it's windy, you're not dry yet, you have to, like, put your shoes and socks back on. But then, I mean, the rest of the trip, it was great. We went hiking in Wicklow, which was fantastic. We went to Cashel. We went to Ken Mayer, drove the Ring of Kerry, the Ring of Skellig, a couple nights in Dingle,

up to Galway, Athelone. Dingle used to be only, all men only, as well. That's how I got his name. Yeah. But we rented a car, and some of these roads are so small, so skinny. And, you know, you're on the opposite side of the road. Yeah. So that's a little bit jarring.

And then sometimes when you are passing another car, I always, inhale as if I'm trying to make the car skinnier. Yeah, you want to narrow up the car. Sure, sure. Yeah, but it seems like you're, like, in the center aisle of an airplane and someone's coming back from the bathroom and you're going to the bathroom. And it's like, this won't work and you just make it work. Yeah.

And, but yeah, it was a fabulous trip. The Irish people are so nice. Yeah. Like, they're all so nice. They're also charming. we uh you know what i really wanted to find was a pub i told mackenzie i was like i want an old woman with a violin and an old guy with like a drum and i just want some like traditional and you couldn't find one there's all the pubs we found this tiny room in this pub and dingle and uh

these two guys matt and jeremy who just play traditional stuff and it was a violin and it gets and Jeremy a little more shy, not really engaging with the crowd, but between songs, they would take huge chunks of time where they would just chat to each other. And then Matt was very engaging to the room as well. And we liked them so much that we saw them the next night at a different pub. And then they told us there was a sing-song up the road at Kennedy's. So we went to Kennedys and stopped into this little room. Also equally tiny with these five Irish women sitting along a bench, just singing along, you know, calling out songs that they wanted to hear. One woman just sang Acapella for a minute while the musicians tried to catch up to her and sort of find the chords

and, you know, no hesitation in her whatsoever. And it was so, so lovely. Like I couldn't recommend it enough and I feel like we you know we had another week in the trip and McKenzie was like I really want to come back here and it's like we have another week yeah yeah that's good though that I mean that's how you know a great trip and again

we had a wonderful trip with mom and dad a few years back and that was around the same time of year beautiful September trip to Dublin and I'm but I'm jealous of your trip with McKenzie because when Alexi and I the first time we went to Ireland it was late December and my memory of it was that it was a gray puddle

and I think a green sort of September, late August is really when you want to get in over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, I mean, it couldn't be more green. It was stereotypical how green it was. And then the wedding, I got to say, like, it was just, it was amazing. I know that I've gotten a lot of credit

from my best man speech at your wedding. Joe Kelly, I will say, our friend really, really crushed it. And then Shannon's brother, Scott, gave a speech and, you know, there's a lot of performers in that room and he's not a performer. And gosh, did he just...

That's the dream. That's the dream. I mean, we had some of those in my wedding, some of those at your wedding. Like, it's really fun when people are like, you know what? I'm not going to be intimidated by the fact that some of the people at this wedding

do this for a living. Like, I'm going to speak from the heart. I'm going to be super funny. And I do think those are often the ones that steal the show and have a much longer tail in people's memories. Yeah. So it was just wonderful

and got to see a lot of old friends. And we're so glad we made the trip. And yeah, pretty tired coming back. Yeah. I hear you are doing a podcast because you know, this is your first love. And I will say I googled it. Nobody, there's no.

real answer to why they call it the 40 foot like there's a there's a different theories none of which i feel like are interesting enough to share but i think that is to me a wonderfully irish thing that they have a name for something and they can't agree on what it's from yeah yeah um it and it does like there's a sort of an iron fence or some sort of uh i don't know if it's iron i'm not an expert in those things but it's uh you know they've there's something that says the 40 foot on this game. that's right there and I don't know what yeah so sound off in the comments let us know if it's iron yeah if you're from slide we did I will say you know people say Galway is great yeah and we had some reservations booked along the way and we were just like well I mean Galway is the only city we're going to so we'll just like roll in there and we'll book it on

the way in we had gone for this hike and the Burren National Park which which was great. Then we went out to the cliffs of more, and we were going to be rolling into town around 7.30. And McKenzie was on her phone trying to book us a hotel and was like kind of quiet. It was about an hour and a half drive. And she's quiet. And she's like, I'm just not seeing anything. And we get into town. I was like, just find a restaurant and we'll go to a restaurant and we'll sort it out there over dinner. So she finds a good restaurant. And we park. We pay to park. We go into the restaurant and they're like, do you have a booking? And we say no.

And they're like, sorry, yeah, we can't. We're full up. And we're like, any suggestions and they point us across the road. We go there. They're like, do you have a booking? No, we're full up. And we can't find a place to eat. We see a hotel.

We just pop in. We're like, do you have any rooms? And they say, no. Like, yeah, it's pretty full tonight. We're like just this hotel. And they're like, no, Galway. And they call five hotels, no availability. Like, you can't, you look at.

at any of the sites that you would book a hotel on, you know, booking.com, hotels.com, whatever, expedient, blah, blah, blah. Nothing, nothing, nothing. And we were on this, like, very touristy street trying to find food. We went to a tapas place and they were like, oh, it's only cheese because it's Wednesday. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Which didn't make sense, which also was a vegan, not very good for me.

So we walked out and there was this hotel above a pub on this street. and I just popped in to see that we were like looking for anything and they were like we just had a cancellation and it was kind of an expensive room and we were like to we are we going to take it and I had to ask the guy was like are you a nice hotel and he was like well I can show you the room and we took it it was fine but we got out of town first thing in the morning we sort of we had a real swing and miss in Galway and just had to get out of there and I just want to let our listeners know I'm at As shocked as you are, that someone who hosts a travel podcast books their hotel 90 minutes out of the town, they're scathing it. Well, we did it in Kenmare to great success. That's good. No, look, it's going to work some of the times. Yeah, it worked in all the small towns. To think that a city would not have a hotel room is pretty surprising.

Well, I love that you're like, because I'm easy. And then meanwhile, you're like, is this a nice hotel? Well, I wasn't going to pay more than I paid. I'm part of a serious traveler. You might not know that Because I had to eat cheese Despite being a vegan The only thing I could get

Was fucking Manchango At the fucking Spanish Fucking Topas place Yeah, well I will say We went to this Topas place We were the only people in there Yeah, well for Wednesday Cheese Night

I mean Yeah I don't know Yeah So plan ahead for Galway everybody Should have gone to Sligo Should have gone up to Sligo

Brian Bob Gardner is our guest today. He's a fantastic fella who I've been lucky enough to meet over the years. And he's getting in the podcast game as well. Yeah, he's got a golf podcast. With Kenny Main, Cooper Manning. Yeah, we need a fourth. We need a fourth.

But today he will be our third. Please do. Welcome back. It's nice to have you back in the States, Pashi. Thanks, Sufi. It's good to be here. And enjoy this conversation. Enjoy the episode.

Enjoy Jeff Tweedy. Family Chips with the Miles Brothers. Family chips with the Myers brothers. Yes. Somebody's got their own podcast now. They've got a pretty little mic. How are you, Brian? Well, I want to make sure I center it, so I think it's a sponsorship deal.

Oh, gotcha. No, it's not. I'm good. I'm good. It's lovely to see you. Congratulations on your new podcast with a couple of real gents, Kenny Main and Cooper Manning. Yes. Jens is one way to describe them, for sure.

How long have you guys been pals? Zero minutes. Like, I'm telling you, everyone keeps saying like, how did this? What is, like, what's going on? How did this? And I honestly, it was the, I mean, clearly the guys over at Smartless know what they're doing. Yeah. And they approached me.

And weirdly, I had just, and I mean just, I take my kids to school in the morning. And I typically listen to Dan Patrick. And I'm telling you not like. Like less than a week before they approached me, I dropped them at school. I go to a coffee shop. Like when I'm home, this is what I try to do. And I stayed in my car because Cooper Manning was on with Dan. And I was like, oh, my God, this guy is so funny.

And I sat in my car and listened to him and the stories that he was telling. And obviously, Kenny Mayne is, I mean, he's a legend. I mean, like, I don't know where he's been. Although now that I've spent time with him, some rock. somewhere crawled under and just couldn't find his way out but I'm having so much fun with these guys I remember I've met Cooper Manning I believe twice which were the two times his brothers hosted SNL and like each time in like a very brief window I had a moment of like oh so like you're the funny one and I'm not and by the way the other mannings are very funny exactly like

that's the thing I want to say like I never was like to the other ones like well these guys don't have a fastball like they're so funny and then he is just unbelievable so when i started saying like yeah i think i'm going to be doing this thing uh with cooper manning and there were guys uh charlie hoffman pGA tour player who uh who i play golf with on occasion when he's home immediately goes oh cooper is the absolute best like he is the one of one manning and i kept hearing this from like all of these people and i'm like how are you does this guy have this legendary status? I think he runs New Orleans, actually.

It used to be the politicians, but now it's the Mannings, and he still sits there on top of his throne. Just such a good guy. Jogman memory, he was in college football or high school football? He had a back injury. I think it was end of high school. That's a great question, and one that I should be able to answer. Yeah, but he was a really, really talented wide receiver. wide receiver that's exactly right yeah and and a very bad injury which uh which stopped him but you know obviously uh the jeans run through his family uh with arch now and in fact i i'm sure we'll talk about this in a minute but i grew up in georgia and i was a huge university of georgia fan and and about four or five years ago kind of got reintroduced into the program there at

Georgia. And so I've gone to some SEC championship games and the Florida Georgia game again, which I hadn't done since I was a kid. And I'm now a big fan. And I'm like, you know, when I met him, I'm like, you know, we're going to kick your ass this year, Texas. And now like a week ago, I said to him, like, you're making this really difficult because like this is your son. Like this is your actual life and legacy and I love you now and I uh yeah so it's really it's really it's it's it's going to be complicated I think we're both going to go to the game uh in in mid-November down there in ath amazing he uh my memory I mean again meeting the Manning family is such a thrill because they are everything you want them to be yes and uh Josh and I went to Northwestern and I guess it was

the year you were still in school but Tennessee beat Northwestern in the Citrus Bowl Peyton Manning led. Yeah. Okay. And I remember mentioning to Archie Manning, the legendary Archie Manning that I went to Northwestern. And he goes, oh, you know, I'll never forget that game. You know, we were whipping you guys pretty good. And we all started chanting SEC, SEC.

And then there weren't many Northwestern people there, but they started chanting SAT. And, you know, I thought, well, that's awful funny. It's awful funny. And I was just like, oh, my God, you were such a gentleman. I know. Yeah. They're all so nice. and also profound shit-talkers.

Just absolute, profound, yes. The other, since we're talking about golf, maybe, I mean, I hope it's seen you more recently to this, but I saw you out at, you know where I'm going to say? I know exactly what you're going to say. What is it? The Lake Tahoe Pro Am, golf tournament. No, please, please, Seth, it's the American Century Championship.

Thank you very much. Which is very important, because everyone refers to it, of course, Tahoe. Are you going to Tahoe? Did you play in Tahoe? Yes, go ahead. We saw each other there. We saw each other there. I had done stand-up there. I'm not a golfer, but I couldn't imagine what you were doing around. I performed

and did like fine, but not great. But I remember the most happy I've ever seen Charles Berkeley is when he saw you. Yeah, you know, so I knew I don't know if you guys, I didn't just happen upon this. I knew I was going to be talking to you guys today

and I went into a deep dive. I don't ever delete anything. I don't delete text messages. I don't delete email. Like, they sit there. I'm so glad because there's a photo I was looking for today that I couldn't find. I found it. Today, I found it.

So we were sit at the American Century Championships in Lake Tao. There's, they do celebrity karaoke. Yes, that's what we're aware. Artie the Party. That's his name. I think it's official, plays the piano and plays some background music and celebrities get up and sing. And this has been for now a really long time. Charles Barkley is the ringleader of this deal.

And you and I were sitting together. Clearly slightly behind me, like next to me, behind me, but next to each other. And Charles came up and started. giving me a lap dance. That's 100% correct. And you snapped a photo of Charles giving me a lap dance. And he does have a very large smile on his face. Now, you don't see a whole lot of body action there in the photo.

It's mostly his head, I feel like, fills up most of the frame. That is correct. And I turned to you when it was all, when he was finished, so to speak. And I said, I, I, I need that, I need that photo. And I, this morning, found an email from your Blackberry. Yeah, that's how I knew I didn't have it. That's how I knew I didn't have it. Maybe you couldn't, I don't know if you could text pictures then from 2010.

Yes, a picture of that. And then you also, I guess I had, I guess I had gone on stage and sung myself. And you had come on stage and, and there is actually a. a much better shot of me singing to the people on stage back in 2010. Yeah, really funny. And yeah, he was the happy. Usually people giving lap dances don't. It was like he was doing it for him.

Let me assure you, we absolutely was. It was like he had paid you for the honor of giving you the opportunity. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Tovala. Hey, Baji. Hey, Sufi. You know, with Tovala, you'll avoid the daily 5 p.m. What's for dinner question once and for all?

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of Buckhead, which most people have heard of, and Sandy Springs there. But not too, I mean, not far out. Now it goes like, Atlanta goes like 45 miles. Yeah. Like I'll run into someone and they'll be like, oh, I'm from Atlanta. I'm like, oh, I grew up there and they'll say some words that make. no sense to me that now I guess it's

grown a lot but yeah I grew up I grew up there with my sister and parents obviously and yeah had a great where is your sister land my sister is still there my sister essentially never left

she and her husband both lived in and still live in the state of Georgia now he my sister at like I don't know age 34 or something around there, maybe even 40, they moved to Germany for three years. I was like, that is a huge change.

But then, and then they went back. So I'm back, and obviously there's some work stuff that happens in Atlanta, obviously, is grown up now in terms of industry work. So I'm back occasionally, get to spend time with her back there. And was she older, younger? She was, my sister was younger, three years younger. so we were like we we overlapped but barely right like in high school and so forth were you close

grown up we were close i mean like legitimately i can say this and i it's i don't i don't i don't think it is bragging because i think it's not as cool like i was actually like a really good kid um i think any of my mischievousness i took out on her but more in like mild prank ways where she'll still talk today like you tortured me and I'm like really it would be much more just like convincing her that leprechauns

did exist and that they would come and take her take her from her room and then like find green paint and all of this stuff and her being just terrified as a child of St. Patrick's Day that's really good I mean

anyone when he puts time to actually get some crafts into their prank? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but no, really, we were good. We got along really well. She is super smart, way smarter than I am now, is a lawyer, and she has her family growing up in generally the same area that we grew up and going to not the same high school, but just adjacent high schools. And I mean, I feel like she, She is giving her kids the childhood that we got, and it was fantastic. That's great. Did you have grandparents nearby?

No, but here's the thing. Now, some people might think this is good. My dad was an only child, and my mom had one brother who never married. So there were only two grandchildren, me and my sister. in the whole deal. So both sets of grandparents, we were all they had. So there was, like,

it's not as awesome as you might think. Like, there was a lot of sort of competition, I think. Oh, I get that. Jealousy and, like, well, where are you spending Christmas this year? Or, you know, Thanksgiving or whatever. Like, I feel like there was a lot of pressure on us to be sort of all things for all people. And I feel like as I've grown up in other families, like maybe Grammy and Grampy really like sports. So they like this, you know, this grand kid. And they all sort of like

can kind of pair off and be the favorites, whether they admit it or not. It was just us. So that was, there was some family tension around that, around holidays stuff. Did your, were you, are your parents educators? Do I have that right? Yes. My mom became a homemaker pretty early on. My dad was a doctor, but he worked for, I don't know. I always say like 40 years or something. He was at Emory University, so he was really a teaching. He was ahead of the residency program there for a long, long time and ultimately loved teaching more than he loved doctoring, though he still did. practice at the university. So yeah, and, you know, he said to us as we were older, like he made that choice to not go into private practice because he wanted to be home. He didn't want to be on call all, you know, every other weekend or whatever. So it was, you know, a sporadic holiday that he had to be on call and like very few memories of him, like having to leave during some family

dinner or something like that so um no we were we he worked long hours but he was definitely accessible and um and you know we traveled together where did you uh one i would just say it does seem like you uh you had a great deal with your parents like is it safe to say that you were raised by really solid people a hundred percent no a hundred percent i would say that and And even so much so that, you know, we, you know, when I, we lived in the same house from when I was five and we moved into this area because the high school was, this was the good high school. And so we're going to move there, which gave him like a, you know, in L.A. or New York, it's not as big a deal. But in Atlanta, it was like, you know, 45 minutes or whatever for him to go to work over in Emory. But he did it because of this high school and gradually this high school deteriorated.

in the 10 years or the decade or whatever. So we ended up going to private school. And his deal was always, I'm going to pay for this, but you're going to go to Emory University, which, by the way, is essentially like saying, you're going to go to Duke, like regularly. You're going to go to Harvard or whatever. And you're going to like it.

And you're going to like it. Because it was free. And so he was like that. He was very. sort of transparent about that like i'm going to do this and you know you have access to activities and other things that you want to do and and and sure enough i decided that um i wanted to go into theater and emery did not i'm it's a fantastic school my sister did go there um but they didn't really have the program that i was looking for like i i ended up going to i went to smu which has like

a conservatory deep theater training place. And he was very much like, okay, well, you remember our deal. So you better go get a scholarship. I was like, okay. So I did. And I mean, that was part of our deal. I think he ended up paying, he showed me pretty recently. I think he ended up paying $1,900 a semester.

for me to go to and he was like okay that's good you did you did you did well right you did you did well so yeah so I you know I ended up moving away

but we were very close had a very good childhood when you traveled where what kind of trips would you guys take so that's I was thinking about that it sounds fancy and we were so

not fancy but being in Atlanta, we were very close to the Caribbean. So our spring break, which by the way, there wasn't all this like midwinter ski weeks or whatever they call these things now. We had one week, right, which was spring break. And I would say almost every year we went to an island, right? Not enough, but it was so close, you know, like it's not like, you know, it's not like, even in New York or in the middle of the country,

like flying or getting there. You know, there was direct flights from Atlanta. And so we did that, and so we snorkeled. Oh, wow. Nice. Were these trips as a kid, do you remember looking forward to it? 100%. Yeah, okay.

We had our own snorkel masks. And still now, like, introducing my kids to it, I love. I haven't done it in so many years. But now my kids are getting older, and I'm, like, wanting to share that with them. Yeah. And, and, and, and, yeah, and I, getting the masks and, like, we haven't bought the masks yet, which is so stupid, but, like, like, wanting to sort of replicate that experience that we had there with, with my parents, uh, yeah, I'm sure, the good feeling that it gives, I think is, is, is, is, is why. I hate, I will say with, uh, with, with, like, either goggles or, like,

snorkeling masks. My absolute nightmare is when one of the kids is like, it's not tight enough. Just the, because then it's like take it off and then they're like it's too tight and back and forth. So I also do it? Do you do it? Do you

snorkel? We do a lot of swimming. We don't, yeah, we haven't gone anywhere where we've snorkel with the kids. I think they're a tick younger than yours. But I think they would really like snorkeling. Yeah. We just went somewhere and they held an octopus and, like, saw... At gunpoint?

Nailed it. Yeah, but, like, in their hands, like, these divers going down. How old are they? What's a good age to hold your first octopus? Like any age, but yeah. Like around double digits. Okay, gotcha. And they, so does this mean they're fearless? Yes.

Okay. It doesn't scare them. It, it. I still, and I do, you know, 50th anniversary of Jaws or whatever, like there is no doubt that is in my psyche. Like there, I mean, there is no doubt for me, this irrational, like, I love it, I do it. It doesn't keep me out of the water. Oh, but I'm scanning the horizon and looking behind me 100% of the time. And they are full on oblivious.

So you wouldn't intentionally swim with sharks. You wouldn't go on like a shark. No No Have you done that? No but I think I mean Part of me says

I would want to go I would do like Get in a cage Oh God no God no Oh no We're like the thing about human beings Is we're supposed to be

On the other side of the cage If you're If you're a human being Who puts yourself in a cage on purpose If you're doing it wrong Would you always go to the same spot in the Caribbean, or would you pick a different island? No, different.

It was different. And then, so it was all, it was about the water for us. So we would do that. And then the other thing that we did, we would go to the beach, right? Well, this is going to lead it. So we would go to the beach, like the, again, like, it's a four-hour drive to basically anywhere like Georgia, like around Savannah, South Carolina, Northern Florida. It's all sort of very close to where we were.

So this was like in the car, driving, doing the thing at the beach. And my mom's family, I mentioned before that my mom's brother never married, he preferred, well, he preferred to go into situations and put himself outside of the cage. There is no doubt he would have had a reality show. Like if he were that age now, someone would have found him. and been like, we're putting you on the learning channel or animal planet or something like, because he, that was his life, like he just did the nature things. My dad, not one bit, like not at all.

My mom grew up with it a little bit. So when we went to the beaches, it was about crabbing, like fishing and crabbing. and um kind of playing with alligators a little bit like this is a whole this is this is against my brand and my whole sort of identity now but yes um we would we would go crabbing and we would this is my sister and i and our other family friends usually one family but sometimes others and like throwing a crab trap into a marshy area or the ocean or like whatever that was not exciting for us as children we wanted to do it like the old-fashioned way so what that entails if you're not familiar is is taking like a chicken neck or back okay and tying it to a string and throwing said rotted flesh into this marshy area letting it sit there for a minute and then very slowly pulling it up and if you were lucky you would start

feel like almost like I don't know if you're fisher people but um you would start feeling like something tugging on the line and you would be like oh we've got and sometimes it was just fish hitting it or whatever but often it would be a crab and so it would come up to a dock area and you would it would be on the chicken you would scoop it up right so it was like very it's very competitive Right, as opposed to just throwing in a trap, letting it sit for six hours and coming back and seeing if... Just finding the dumbest crabs in the marsh. Yeah, that are just sitting in there.

So this happened often. There is one time that has become family lore for me and my sister. We were doing this on this very long dock out into this marsh area. And throwing in the chicken and doing crabs. And this one time, it's pulling pretty hard. But not as hard as you might think with the end of the story. I think I've very, I've spoiled the end. We're all thinking alligator at this point.

So we start pulling this thing up. And again, we're like in the 10 area, 10, 11 years old. And there is a massive alligator on the end of this chicken. and it starts rolling and doing all the alligator things. And we're just children watching this alligator do this. And we, of course, we're dumb children. And of course, you should never do this, never, ever, ever do this. But we kept throwing it back in and the alligator was kind of like wanting the chicken.

And we were getting it from him. and suddenly the alligator just with that dead eye above the water just starts staring at us and then just starts swimming and we're like oh shoot and kind of throwing the chicken like sort of in the general area of it swimming away swimming to the side okay gotcha and suddenly as we realize it's going toward the bank we realize that this alligator is going to get up on the bank and thereby be blocking our way off of this long dock. And this was, there is no doubt in my mind to this day, this was an intentional maneuver by the alligator.

Yeah. So we... It donned on the alligator, the little piece of chicken was the amuse boosh. That is correct. So we all, as children, and again, like, you would say today, like, where were your parents? Yeah. Like, this was us when we were, like, how are they letting you out in a marshy area with

an extended long dock where there are clearly alligators around? So we run off, the alligator gets up on the bank, and we, all we knew, because our parents had taught us this, is run zigzag. So we just ran all of us. All six of us ran zigzag down the road to escape the alligator that was. that was coming to get us. So that was our childhood. It sounds,

so when you say you're going to an island in the Caribbean, it sounds fancy, but we were much more, we were a little more Georgia than that. Yeah. When people from Georgia book, they're like, put them in alligator alley.

They'll be happiest there. Would you, would you be staying like at resorts in these island places or? Yeah. And when we would go like, to the Caribbean yeah I mean a hotel yeah I mean I I I don't but we would go to my parents were fond of they viewed it at least like on the on the spring break excursions as like giving us experiences right so like

there's like in the Virgin Islands there's like St. Thomas but then there's also like St. John's and places you know those other little islands that you can't fly to so you would go and maybe take a boat over there or something and to experience different, you know, the geography of different places and not be overly fancy but still have the experience. But it was really for us, honestly, it was about, it was about snorkeling. Like, it was about, like, going and getting in the water. And I'm sure, like, my mom or dad at the time had guidebooks or whatever, like, what are the best islands to snorkel on?

And we would all do that as a family. And on a snorkeling day, like, how long a day was. a snorkel like would you go out for hours at a time we would go out yeah like we would spend the day like we would spend the day for sure um especially i especially me and my dad like my sister might get over it or my mom or whatever but yeah we would we would go out and um you know had the books and identify the fish and um did you have underwater cameras no i don't remember that i really i don't remember that at all i don't know Did that exist?

He had to get me to email him a picture from my BlackBerry. Yeah, I know. He doesn't have an underwater camera. All his memories are from people with Blackberries who had to email it to. Did you ever cross the threshold into Scuba? No. Why not? You know, I have set, when I moved to Southern California, I had decided, and, spoiler alert, eventually got a pool.

I decided that I was going to become certified like I was going to do because I know you can like become certified in a pool and and do all that I never I never made the phone call I never did it I think as a kid it was probably about that fear thing that I was talking about like I think it was like the idea of being down and I and I think even when I was thinking about becoming. certified it wasn't like let me go a hundred feet down or whatever it was more like well this would enable me to really check out the reefs i'm pretty good at um you know just doing free diving but obviously i can't stay down that long so i think it was i think it was about that it was i don't think i know for sure it was much more about that than for me um at the edge there of the drop-offs I do, I do, I have, I still have that. Yeah. I think there's a whole generation of people that that movie did, it did that for me.

As much as I loved it, the idea of going down where I'm not sure that I could escape, yeah. I don't, I also don't like it, but my, for me, it's not the other, what's down there. It's like the apparatus itself. And, and I, you know, look, obviously there's certification. is important, instruction's important, but I was always like, this is too much stuff.

That's part of it. Yeah, I'm like, that's part of it for me too. And you're just really with your thoughts. Yeah, I've done it. I like it. You like it? Yeah, I haven't done it for years,

but I took a trip ages ago to Thailand, and it's the only sort of good thing that I did in Thailand. It was a bad trip. I went alone and I got ripped off and I got sick and blah, blah, blah. Oh, okay.

But I got certified, and it's really cool. And I agree it's a lot of gear, and to tip off a boat backwards is disorienting. But as soon as you're under and you're breathing, it's remarkably peaceful, I found. He got so ripped off that when he tipped over the side of the boat, he hit sand. And then they were like, they're like, this isn't a boat, it's a truck, and they drove off. I was on Martha's Vineyard this summer And it was the 50th anniversary of Jaws And it's so comical to me

How there was so much Jaws tourism Like for a place to say like This is where the bad fake thing happened And it's kind like this summer wasn't bad But a couple summers ago was a little sharky And everybody was saying You know It's like global warming

Like, just, you know, get used to the sharks. Like, it's going to be a big part of your future. But it was so funny that they were like, this is where the shark movie happened. I was seeing, I saw all that stuff from afar. I wasn't there. And I thought exactly the same thing. Yeah. I will, so I have, again, that I have done almost everything to not give my kids the experience that I grew up with, like living on the other side of the world.

in a totally different way. But I, my folks are still with us and they are, they have retired to the coast down there about four hours from Atlanta. And so really to visit them, but also I think to give my, my kids that we go back. And a point of that story right now is for the first time in my, my kids, lifetime and going there essentially once a year for one to two weeks I saw a shark in the in the surf like an absolute just like a an unmistakable like my brain was telling me it could not be like that must be it because there's dolphin you see dolphins all the time yeah but that unmistakable

dorsal fin and the and the and the and the and the back tail fin sticking out and then disappearing and then coming out and sort of riding this wave and I was like oh yeah this is like I've never seen it

and then of course getting on my phone and seeing that they're around much more now and coming in closer and how far away you had a text from a shark saying yeah that was me

how far away were you from it or were people sorry sorry I have to get this joke No, the shark Blackberry imaging me, a picture of me standing there as I have one of him. Sharks are one of the last species still using Blackberry.

They don't have iPhones yet. Yeah. It was like in the, it was in the cert, like in where the waves were crashing. Not far at all. And then you read online like, most shark attacks happen in three feet of water. And you're like, and actually I think that's from the movie Jaws too. or they say that and it's like oh yeah that was like it would have been like waist high or you know maybe slightly above for me but not out there yeah yeah it's uh it was funny uh you mentioned dolphins like

a couple summers ago everyone was like oh there's whales out in the atlantic ocean and so um my father-in-law like was dead set on fine like seeing a whale and so uh we were we're out and like while we were We were alongside a pod of dolphins. It was like a super pod. You couldn't believe it. And it was like a hundred dolphins. And it was those majestic things. And my kids were like, where are the whales?

Jesus. Shut. Will you shut up? Enjoy these beautiful mammals. Yeah. Yeah. I was so disappointed. See a whale.

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Would your single uncle, would he go on these trips and would he be sort of a pied piper into nature stuff that maybe your dad wouldn't lead you into? And would he be disappointed that the way Josh described him as your single uncle?

He's like, hey, man, I'm other stuff. You know, I wasn't sure how much. go into this but he there was a period of time and my dad now will say things like i can't believe that we allowed that to happen we would go to his place that was in florida and there the all there were all bets were off like what we might experience like chasing armadillas i mean look we were georgia i said from the beginning we were from georgia And again, I, I appreciate that time that we did, like, we went shrimping.

Like, like, as, as young children, like, getting woken up at, like, 11 p.m. And, like, this is when the shrimp are running. Let's go. How do you shrimp? What is the apparatus you used to catch the shrimp? So, again, we were, this was. If this was chicken on a string again, I'm going to be very disappointed. Kind of.

Honestly, like, not, not exactly. but you know this was not this was not fancy shrimping boats right with again dragging nets that would catch shrimp and other things this was um you would put lights on the side of the boat just to be able to see and maybe i don't know i don't this has been a long time i don't know if the light attracts them but basically you would go into these inlets when the i assume when it was becoming high

high tide like when the water was coming in i don't know maybe it was when it was going out whichever way is better you would sort of go there and anchor and the they would come by and you would just you would have a net and just net them yeah and i mean like but five gallon buckets like filling them with shrimp wow and then eating it was it and then was a whole hundred percent yeah i mean he my whole family really there was not a lot of any sort of meat fish that was bought ever ever um it was it was also in that regards i'm i'm i totally support that on i i think it's a it was really incredible and um the experiences that we had there both fishing and and shrimping i i we did not hunt he did a lot um but those experiences like it was it was incredible it was incredible

to get woken up at 11 p.m is so rad yeah and just like hey we're going out on the boat and the coming back when the sun comes like if oh man that's amazing oh yeah it'd be like a real night a whole night out there yeah wow when you say chase an armadillo do you ever catch an armadillo I didn't, but I probably I probably mildly chased it and then it was like, oh, I can't catch it. You kind of shoot it. You kind of shoot it away, yeah. Yeah.

Get out of here. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to say his name right now, but basically it was called, it was called Uncle Lex's camp. Yeah. And we would go there. So he's definitely wanted. To my knowledge,

ever been in trouble with the law, but just, like, off the grid for sure. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. Not like, not like, I don't mean like, certifiably, like, hiding from people. I just mean, like, this is, this is how we, this is how we lived. Yeah. Were you, like, in the Everglades or were you more, uh, yeah, you know, that's, that's a great question. I don't think exactly. This would be more a little more central. Everglades is more south, right? I think so. I might also be totally wrong. But this was like central Florida and then the coast, obviously. Yeah. I mean, look, I, there are times when like we went back to visit my folks. I'm like, guys, we're going to go crabbing. They're like, what are you talking about? dad and i'm like no we're gonna here's what we're gonna do we're gonna get chicken and we're gonna put

it on a string and then we're gonna catch and they're just like no no we're absolutely not not doing that and i like sort of try but remember it's the fun part of the chicken it's the neck or the back yeah it's your favorite part what is this and then just like but also not quite remembering yeah fully how to do it or or like where the good spots are or anything. And so just becoming lame. My kids have clammed a little, but, you know, clamming is basically just like raking sand.

Right. I feel like the thrill of the chase with crabbing. Because nobody actually, you never rake up an alligator, for example. No. You guys were really in it. No, we were. I mean, they are everywhere there, though, you know, down, not up, not up, not up where you guys are. no no i almost never see one

yeah no but like florida like golf courses you'll see them uh i remember going to visit my friend bobby stewart and he had this little pond near his house and we definitely like we're biking around that and you'd see them there it's yeah oh yeah oh yeah it's everywhere see that's i will i was gonna say that's alligator's scary to me than a shark it maybe is because like when you see a like because alligators are faster you think when they come out of the water fast. Yes. You know, at least with a shark, if you can get to the beach, you're good.

I don't care for either. I will distress, I don't care for either. Armadillo, when you said then, I'm like, that's a guy. I'd be pretty happy to see one of them. Yeah. Mildly chase it and then call it a day. Just kind of run around. Maybe he's chasing me.

You don't even know what's going on. That's how we're just sort of circling around the lawn. Well, I think with alligators, if it's, alligators don't really live in water one wants to swim in so the idea of of just suddenly encountering one in the water it's not not so likely as opposed to a shark i think for me that's why the shark thing is just like they are there they are they are out there they are around you um so yeah um back to the uh the grandparents um And the jealousy about where you might be going for Christmas. Would you do Christmas at grandparent houses? No. So that was, that is something, some might call it selfish.

That is something that I have enacted with my family now as well, typically. My parents said very clearly, we will be at our house. and you are all invited. Now, if we didn't have room or whatever, like some people may have, we may have to, you know, but we could find another place to stay or hotel or whatever. But like,

we are here. So not do the like, you know, we're going to go to this house this time. And we do the same thing now, which I'm like, guys, everyone is invited.

Everyone is, my house is open to you, but I will be home. And my kids will be home. Because I think for, us that was that was something we liked like we we the I just being home the whole like for the holidays preparing we were sort of a part of it as opposed to like when you have to travel around for whatever holiday you're you become just sort of a guest yeah and you know I we weren't

close enough where it was like come around the corner to our house or whatever so it was a it was a trip for sure where is your wife from where in the country is california okay gotcha so it's a little different it's a little different now uh it's not it's not the same um but still it's like you know anybody my sister my folks you want to come this is where this is where we'll be please please come yeah that's great um it's so lovely to talk to you and you were but you were also, because I remember being at that golf event with you, you're a great golfer. Is that safe to say?

Look, if you, if multiple athletes told me that night, like, Brian's a great golfer. So this is, I can hold my own. No, I can hold my own. And I love it.

The thing about the American Century Championship, specifically and other of those tournaments, um which they have a purse like it is like a a professional golf i joke with charlie hoffman who's like a real professional golfer now like if we're playing there's a few people with us and you know i'll make some joke like huh just two professional golfers teeing off here on a friday because it is there's a purse but because there's a purse this is as i understand it

there's no handicap involved so there's no strokes given so like you've got step Curry, Marty Fish, like, you have guys who are going to shoot five, six under par. That's how good Steph is? Yeah, Steph won that event. Two years, well, last year, he did not come back. So, sorry, two years ago, three tournaments ago, right? So it's in July. He won.

Then the next year, he had some stupid, thing he had to do, like, win the gold medal at the Olympics, so he couldn't make it. And then he was back this year and was in the top five, for sure. But Marty Fish, Marty Fish is the, is known to be the best. But, like, he has a course record of a 62, par 72, 62 on that course during the tournament. Seth, this is not what I, this is not me. Yes, this is not me. So I can never win.

I just try to do well. And look, I love it. How do you measure up against? the non-athlet participants. I measure up pretty well. And there are more and more of us. Colin Jost has been there the last couple of years. Ray Romano is a, and it's this event.

There's some other events too, but Ray Romano, Rob Wrigal, Nate Bargazzi, has shown up. Tim Simons. from Veep. I know I'm missing people that I usually get paired with. But yeah, no, I measure up okay. All right. Yeah.

Other than the sort of celebrity or charity golf events, what's been the best golf trip you've ever taken in your life? So it just happened. Like it just happened. I've got this new podcast coming out, or that's out now. We need a fourth with Kenny Maine and Cooper Manning

we were talking about before and we got together to talk to some people one and two to get us together we shot some promo stuff and we played together and we went to St. Andrews in Scotland the old course at St. Andrews

and played a few courses there and it is spectacular. I mean people have told me before like oh St. Andrews but you know like traveling halfway around the world you know it's again it's not like new york now i'm in california you know it's like 19 hours or whatever of travel to get over there and um so i i'm i'm i'm not as adventurous about the golf travel stuff like i typically will do stuff with family or you know i've got work stuff but i'm telling you if you're a golfer

and if you want an experience going there is number it is one of one because saint andrews and you always hear right the old you've heard right the old course at saint andrews saint andrews maybe i'm an idiot i am an idiot but it's a city right but it is the only place i've ever been it is a city that surrounds the golf course every single thing in this town faces, looks at, interacts with this golf course. And the culture of it, we just had Michelle Wee, Hall of Fame golfer on the podcast. And she was talking about it as well. Like there's something different there here in the United States.

There is sort of an exclusivity, which I think turns people off about golf. like, oh, you've got to join this place or there's all these rules and I feel like an idiot and people are there, it's like Central Park, but it's the golf course. So like on, in the evening, people are out there playing with their dogs. People are lining and watching Duffer. This had nothing to do with the fact that there were celebrities who were there. And I'm not talking about it. There were a bunch of other celebrities who were playing in this thing, but it wasn't about that. there were just people hanging out watching just watching people come up 18 and there's a very famous hole if you know golf at all it's 17 it's called the road hole and the day that we played the pin where the where the you know the hole is on the 17th green was three and a half feet from the edge of what seemed like a cliff which went down onto a on to a road and

And this is a road that people walk on and can drive on. And it's just right there. It's a magical, magical experience. I'll send you guys a photo of it stays dark there in the summer until 10.30 at night. And there's a shot, like I think at exactly 10.30 at night, the sun is just going down and I'm standing on the bridge there on 18, like one of the most famous places in golf. because I just walked from the road out to holding a Guinness just on this and this happened to have I don't travel with a professional photographer but one happened to be walking with me and took this shot of me there and it's not like I snuck on and did something weird

we're just like we're walking on the road and you're like there's the bridge it's it is magical and to do it with those guys Kenny and and Cooper and and and there were a lot of other people there as well, but it was, it was so much fun. So much fun. That is really, really awesome. Congrats on the new podcast. It is always wonderful to see you. But before we let you go, Josh is going to ask you our speed round questions.

Okay, speed round. Here we go. All right. Here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Relaxing. Nicely done.

What is your favorite means of transportation? Plain. Very good. If you can take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? The Simpsons. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My daughter. Wow.

You are from Atlanta. If you were the head of Atlanta's Board of Tourism, how would you pitch the city? Oh, God, no, sorry. There were so many jokes that came in that I should not ever say. A great place to grow up. That's true. Okay. Great.

And then Seth has our final questions. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? No, not no. Do you want to go? No. Great. I mean, with you? I'll go with you.

I don't want to go. Okay. We went last year And Seth still I'm good Is unimpressed I love it Great to see you

Great to see Brian You as well Yeah Is that true You were unimpressed It's fine You know what it is Everything you think

And nothing more We We didn't go below the rim We had our fantasy football Draft On the rim of the Grand Canyon Incredible experience Being with my friends

But again I would enjoy being with them on the rim of a dumpster. So I don't want to give all the points to the canyon for this. Makes sense. Yeah. But I'm glad.

Thank you for you just your straight honesty. I feel like a lot of Americans feel like they've got to pretend like that's their bucket list. Yeah, it's like going to Vegas, and I have a joke with my old high school friend. We've been to Vegas a couple times for different, you know, bachelor parties or, you know, someone's birthday or whatever. And there's one guy who's always,

was like, guys, should we go to the Hoover Dam? Absolutely not. Like, there is no chance. I was just in Vegas with my wife and a couple friends, and we were going to see a show at the Sphere, and we had kind of a day where we didn't know what to do before going to the Sphere. And my wife said to, like, we were in an Uber the night before,

and she was like, maybe we should go to the Hoover Dam tomorrow night. And the driver was like, I was like, have you been? What do you think? And he was like, it's, it's a dam. It's, for me, it's like the Grand Canyon. I have, I have had to drive by there. But to me, it's like, really? At one year, he arranged a helicopter because it had become this, this joke, like,

should we go to the Hoover Dam? And I still said no. Well, we had our, we had our draft at the, at the Grand Canyon because we asked this question on the podcast, and then the guy who got to pick where the draft was, picked Flagstaff so we could drive up there and force Seth to get there. Just burn me. Just burn me with a trip to the Grand Canyon I had to go to. Great to see you, Brian. I hope to see you in person soon. I hope so. I hope so as well. And send me a, if it's appropriate, I'd love to see the Berkeley picture again, too. I'll send it to you. Okay, great. Be well, my friend. Thank you. Thank you.

Thanks so much. All right. When Brian was younger, Florida and summer, kids would run off without moms or dads. And better than fishing, put chicken on a string on a string. A neck or a back And go bobbing for crabs Chasing on a delos for a little while Boating at night When the shrimpies would run

And with old Uncle Lex Never knew what was next But I bet It was real dang fun He and his friends He and his friends walked Down a real long dock To gather some crabs

That they could bring home And they all got nervous Went up to the surface Went up to the surface It wasn't a crab that was hanging on Hang on Hang on Hang on

Running away Moving in a serpentine Trying to avoid A Gator assault Ryan was a kid that says Don't do what he did If you do It's not Brian's fault

Emphatically please Don't you follow his lead If you do It's your own damn fault Thank you.