Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - CHARLIE DAY & MARY ELIZABETH ELLIS Take Yearly Trips to Destin, Florida!!!

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

This week Seth and Josh welcome Mary Elizabeth Ellis and her husband Charlie Day to the podcast! They chat all about Mary Elizabeth's childhood trips to Mississippi and Florida, growing up in a small ...town that has since become popular with tourists, going to New York for the first time, her church moving to funny locations, and more! They also chat about Charlie’s unique childhood in Middletown, Rhode Island, his first trip meeting Mary Elizabeth's family...that coincided with a trip to the dentist, their time film It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia together, and last but certainly not least, they talk about the show that Mary Elizabeth is in: season 2 of A Man on the Inside is out November 20th (look out for a Josh Meyers appearance too!) Support our sponsors: QuinceGo to Quince.com/TRIPS for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, tooTavolaFor a limited time save up to $300 on the Tovala smart oven when you order meals 6+ times by heading to Tovala.com/TRIPS and use our code TRIPS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Buzzy. Hey, Sufi. How are you? I'm good. I feel like I haven't seen you in a minute. Yeah, because I was seeing you a lot, and then I don't know. I've been missing you. I've been missing a little bit of break.
Starting point is 00:00:11 It's great to see you. I'm wondering if you are missing New England in the fall. Maybe. I mean, yeah, we are coming up on, by the time this episode releases, it'll be my first anniversary. Oh, that's right. is on the 13th. And remembering back to that, like, the leaves were changing color. We were on the Farmer's Almanac website leading up to our wedding to sort of track
Starting point is 00:00:41 when is it prime leaf peeping season, and it was really it fell in our weekend. And so I can only imagine that it's beautiful back there right now. It's good. It is when I realize how happy I am to be living on this side of our great nation. and I know you like your side plenty too and that's fine but it is really great right now and we went on a bike ride
Starting point is 00:01:06 we went on an e-bike ride with our college buddies a beautiful one and now I've done the same bike ride with our boys about half of that's great and it's been it's been fantastic did they have e-bikes the boys
Starting point is 00:01:19 no we're just doing regular bikes they're just fully peddling and it is as flat as you can get it's a real it's a real flat ride Yeah, but it's beautiful. It's one of those rail trails that's been paved over. And there's something pretty good. You know, we have to, like, load the bikes onto a bike rack and, like, drive to the start of the rail trail.
Starting point is 00:01:40 But it's a real nice little, you know, weekend activity, getting on bikes with the kids. Both my kids just slam their brakes on when they want to stop. Usually I'm right behind them and have, like, veered into the bushes multiple times to avoid a collision. Yeah. So that's not great. Do they do it to be like We're like dirt bike racers And we want to skid to a stop
Starting point is 00:02:02 Or they just want to stop Sorry, did you say dumb bike racers? Dirt bike No dumb They're dumb bike racers Where they just think it's fun to stop Did you Wait have we talked on the pot
Starting point is 00:02:14 About you coming to Brooklyn Has that happened yet? I don't think so Have we recapped? I mean, what a night Yeah I mean if you haven't seen Poshy Is Gavin Newsom
Starting point is 00:02:23 on the Jimmy Kimmel Brooklyn shows run, don't walk to your YouTube's. Yeah, it was really, I mean, I love playing Newsom on Kimmel. It's really fun, and most of the time when I do it it, you know, it's here in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:02:37 It's like a mile from my house. It's so nice to be able to pop down to the studio and everyone sort of in the audience for the most part really knows Gavin Newsom, who's only getting more and more sort of the spotlights on him more and more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And so his visibility is pretty high, And then I was slated to do this Kimmel show in Brooklyn, and then all the stuff happened where Kimmel got taken off the air. And obviously, right, because he crossed the line. And I know this is about politics. He crossed the line. I was, you know, I was upset about it for myriad reasons. But one of them also was, it was a bummer that I was going to get to go to New York and see you. And then it was off the books.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And then very quickly he was back on. And I have, you know, he does a week of shows. It was the seventh time he's done a week of shows at the, at Bam, the Brooklyn Academy of Music. And I used to, there was a summer I lived a couple blocks from there. And they have movie theaters there. And I would go and see old movies there. I'd seen a play there. And I was like, what, I wonder what room they're going to be doing their show in.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And I had never been in the main theater. And I have to admit, I walked out for rehearsal into this 3,000 seat, three-tiered room. I was like, oh, this is going to be something else. And I was definitely not, not nervous. I had to ride out on stage on a low-rider city bike, which they had asked me. They were like, are you okay on a bike? And I was like, yeah, I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And then I was like, oh, but it is a low-rider bike. And there are 3,000 people, and I do have to do a quick lap around Kimmel. You, I was, again, as I joked again to the same group of college friends, they picked the right Myers brother to enter on a bike. By the way, then a super funny dismount where you basically just jumped off the bike while it was still moving. Well, yeah, I was pretty charged up at that point. So, you know, it was in the monologue, in the body, in the monologue,
Starting point is 00:04:47 and Jimmy Kimmel basically mentioned Gavin Newsom, and then you came out. Now, I think for loyal Kimmel viewers, right, like they know that you play Gavin Newsom on the show. I think for the, you know, maybe the 3,200 people on the Haas that night, I would guess like maybe 2,000 of them definitely thought it was Gavin Newsom
Starting point is 00:05:04 for the first, like, five to 10 seconds. Like, because it was only big, I mean, I think it's why it was so smart to put you on a low rider city bike because that's where you're like, well, hold on, that wouldn't be. Yeah. I do think, I do think they prepped the audience.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I think they showed some previous clips. Ah, very smart. very very much also just sort of like sort of greases the wheels for me it makes my life easier and then um and then you are sort of a guest cameo in the piece which you know uh mackenzie uh my wife was uh reading some comments afterwards and she was like so many people think it's set doing Gavin Newsom and i was like yeah but then Seth comes out yeah like how could you possibly write a comment like, oh, Seth does such a good Gavin Newsom, when
Starting point is 00:05:54 you're there. Yeah. Yeah. They think it's classic prestige. It's a movie. Yeah. Christopher Null movie about a... Anyway, magician stuff. It's real good. But the other thing I'll say, you know, you mentioned you were nervous.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You know, I was less nervous. One, because, you know, obviously I was just playing myself. All two, you know, it's a talk show. I do one of those every night. Right. But you had like a real like I was like oh
Starting point is 00:06:22 Pasha has like four full pages of bits here and again not just you're doing you know line delivery so well you have added a lot of physicality to Gavin Newsom and it's a real
Starting point is 00:06:37 it has a real specificity to it so we were backstage and I was kind of like oh did did like and I kept going over looking at my script and again I had like you know a tenth of the lines you did and I looked over at one point I'm like oh Pashi's And Apocci's got his game face on. This is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Anyway, I was also just so proud of you. You crushed so hard. It was so fun. And I can't remember the last time we've been on a stage like, I mean, I don't remember, you know, 30, 200 people. I don't know if we've ever been on a stage like that, yeah. So it was really cool to, and again, what an incredible gentleman, a Jimmy Kimmel is, and his entire staff of such nice people. And that's why it breaks my heart that they crossed the line and got what was coming to him. And I know it's not, I don't want to get political, but, you know, there's got to be a line when you cross.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You've got to get your comeuppets. Yeah, yeah. One real quick travel thing. Yeah. I know I've said, you know, when you're on a plane and a baby's crying, it's sort of you need noise-canceling headphones. It's not the baby's fault. But you know what I think is worse than a baby crying on a plane? What's that?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Two people having a conversation for hours. You were on a flight with dad? You were on a flight with dad and a perfect stranger? I don't think it should be allowed. So these are two people who like know each other? Yeah, I think so. Wow. Just chatting through the whole flight.
Starting point is 00:08:08 It's like, you know, you can talk about like, hey, you're going to get a drink? Like, yeah, let's get a drink. And like a little chit chat here and there. But to just talk for hours on a plane, droning on, I think it's, I'm not going to win that argument. It's not like planes are going to sort of say. It would be super funny if you called a flight attendant over and said, I'm so sorry, but they're having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah. I did have to tell a guy, like a grown-ass man who was just flipping through Instagram or TikTok or something like that before the plane took off without headphones in. Oh, that, I mean. And I like got up and came around. I was like, hey man, do you have any headphones you could use with that? And another guy sitting across the aisle was like, thank you. And it's like, that has to be like, I know flight attendants have a lot they have to do.
Starting point is 00:09:00 But it seems like they should be ready to sort of whip that criticism out at people right away. Yeah. We, I was on a flight recently where I hope I haven't told the story. Edit it out if I have, Jeff. Edit it out anyway, Jeff, but go ahead. We landed and the flight. attend and said, hey, people have a connection. If you don't
Starting point is 00:09:23 have to get anywhere, if this is your final destination, can you let everybody who has a connection get off first? I've had this happen before. It never works. Yeah. Everybody gets up and then everybody's angrier than they would have been because an effort has been made
Starting point is 00:09:40 and that effort has been ignored. This time, literally every single person stayed in their seat and like eight people got up and like raced out And as they raced out, they were like, oh, my God, thank you, everybody, thank you, thank you. And then when I came, went out, I said to the flight attendants, I'm like, I've never seen that work. They're like, we've never seen it work.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Wow. They were like, I can't believe. Like, they were in the best mood because they had been listened to and ultimately, like, everybody had made a choice for the betterment of the people who had connections to catch. Yeah. Good for them. Good for them. Yeah. I flew somewhere once, and at the baggage claim, there was like a line that was made.
Starting point is 00:10:20 six feet off of the belt that the baggage would arrive on and it was like stand behind the line until you see your bag right and it was so much more civilized everyone just gets right up against that belt and you got to like push between them yeah drag your bag between them it's like just you don't have to be right up against it but i don't know that we're ever going to win that battle to have people step back but it's nice when there's a line when there's a clearly marked line and people don't cross it, it's wonderful. Yeah, like Kimmel did. Like Kimmel should do.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Love our guests today, you gotta say. I love our guests too. Yeah. Mary Elizabeth Ellis and Charlie Day. You probably know the most from Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Yeah. But they're wonderful, wonderful actors. I've been lucky enough to, I mean, I'm sure you have too.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You run into them socially, and they're both delightful human beings. I'm very excited to chat. Reno 911. They were Reno 911. You know Charlie from Horrible Bosses, Super Mario Brothers movie. You probably haven't seen Super Mario Brothers movie. I have not. Really fun.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I got to say. Really fun. You know what's really fun in general is Super Mario Brothers. Like the game? The game. Yeah. Yeah. It's great.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It's perfect. It's, I don't have a Nintendo Switch, but, like, they just put out Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 as, like, a re-release. I don't know, remastered, whatever, and part of me is like, oh, should I get a Switch? And I have no time whatsoever, but those games make me happy. Mary Elizabeth Ellis, you know her also from New Girl. She was Nick's ex-girlfriend, Caroline. Everything these guys are in. Great, Santa Clara, you to diet.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Let's chat with them now. Great. All right. Let's listen to some music and do it. Bye. Bye. Hello. We had Charlie for a second, then Charlie got booted out.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I kicked him out. I wanted. Oh, there you guys. Wow. Look at you guys. Hi, guys. What's happening in? How far apart are you two in physical miles right now?
Starting point is 00:13:06 We're in the same house. You're in the same house. We're in the same house in different rooms. This is the only way we communicate in our home now. Via podcast. You have to find a podcast. I will say, this is this the first time
Starting point is 00:13:22 we've ever zoomed with each other? Probably? Yeah. Otherwise, we would just... I don't know. There wasn't like you guys didn't have pandemic zooms where you were on
Starting point is 00:13:29 with... I know, it seems like, but we wouldn't have been together, I think. We would, yeah, and we wouldn't have been social distancing within our own space.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Right, fair enough. Fair enough. It's lovely to see you both. Back at you guys. Back at you guys. Yeah, real quick on a slightly sort of somber note, I guess,
Starting point is 00:13:49 but the last time I saw you guys was at the memorial for Lynn Marie Stewart, who I worked with on the peewee show on Broadway, and Charlie played your mom on Always Sunny. And just what a lovely event that was and what a celebration of just a woman who just glowed
Starting point is 00:14:08 and just had clearly like made friends everywhere she went and made everyone's life better everywhere she went. And was just like a classic, They were showing clips of her on Laverne and Shirley and Magnum PI and that she sort of from a young age that I sort of hadn't recognized all that stuff all the way through to the end being on your guy's show. And yeah, it was just sort of a real light. And it was a great. I mean, we had the privilege of working with her for 20 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 20 years because I remember seeing her, John Papsidera was helping us cast that first season and we were looking for the role of my mother. We saw her on a tape and we're like, that's Miss Yvonne from Pee Wee's Playhouse. And there was no other choice. And to paint for the listeners or watches a clearer picture of this funeral service, the theme was a luau and everyone wore Hawaiian shirts. And what a way to go. I mean, you know, it sums her up and she was just the best.
Starting point is 00:15:13 It's such a, I mean, if you really don't want people, to be sad at your funeral. I do think like baking in a way, like again, because if it's a luau, you know they weren't they would, that's what they wanted. They would have been really bummed if you were super chag. Yeah, you don't want to be caught crying
Starting point is 00:15:30 in a Hawaiian shirt. Oh no. They'll send you out of the luau. Exactly. They'll kick you right out of the luau. And Mary Elizabeth, you obviously have a large body of work. You're working the diaper money I'm ready for it to come out
Starting point is 00:15:48 on the podcast I know I'm very excited too because it's maybe the one I think about the most but of course you're in the I you know it was very funny to me like that's that thing about
Starting point is 00:15:57 like when you know people for 20 years like that they all of a sudden like these guys who made like I'm on a boat literally made a song about diaper money
Starting point is 00:16:04 and like I can't even sack it like so it's so dirty I can't even say it and wife parts yeah and wife parts yeah that was so fun to do
Starting point is 00:16:14 I remember I remember just being like, yeah, what a random ask. I think I had done an episode of Brooklyn 9-9 with Andy, where I played like a medical examiner who was into sex with corpses, like dudes pretending to be corpses, which like all of our God kids are watching now because they're like, you know, tweens. And they're like, oh, I'm watching Brooklyn 9-9. And I'm like, maybe don't watch episode 4 or whatever when they were figuring it out.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yeah. So what about how old your son's like at the age where he can probably watch anything now, right? Yeah, pretty much. Well, actually, he just went to Vidyets. He just, like, met up with a friend in Eagle Rock, walked down to Vidyat, just the two of them, and went to go see Sixth Sense. And because he's 13, he didn't know the twist. Great. Yeah, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:17:10 In the movie, he fucked him up. Yeah, he was like. Yeah, like he's not a scary movie guy. His buddy is that he went with, but he's not a big scary movie guy. He is a World War II movie guy all of a sudden. Like, he is your father's grandchild for sure. Has that been spoiled for him if people spoiled World War II for him? Unfortunately, it's spoiled us.
Starting point is 00:17:34 My son is nine, and he started reading these graphic novels called, like, Nathan Hale's Hazardous Tales or something. And it's the speed in which he knows more about World War I do. like he's just like oh he goes I feel bad for the Belgians I'm like I think you're saying Belgians he's like oh my god you know so much more than me and then he starts talking about him like no I only know how to pronounce Belgian
Starting point is 00:17:54 yeah it's funny how little we I feel like our generation has retained about World War I which is not nearly as good as the sequel the sequel the sequel had all the hits I mean again like 1917 was like a great World War I movie but it all I didn't teach me a thing about World War I
Starting point is 00:18:13 It just thought me it was in one shot. It was in one continuous shot. One beautiful shot. Well, they only had one camera back then. Exactly, exactly. And one roll of film. And just to zoom in on the sad letter from your wife. All right, do you guys both identify as New Englanders?
Starting point is 00:18:32 No. Not her. I'm from Mississippi. Yeah. Oh, I miss read it. I thought, it's hilarious how I miss read it. So in Mississippi, you don't consider that New England. You know, consider Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I also, I know as much about states as I do about World War I. This is going to be a good podcast. So tell us about where in Mississippi are from. Not that I know anything specific about Mississippi. From a small town called Laurel. Okay. It's actually where Parker Posey went to high school. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:05 So like growing up, there were like pictures of Parker Posey all over the walls of like the drama department. So it felt very like, oh, this is like a real thing. Like, this is a path. This can, you can be an actor. Yeah. And now there's an HG TV show called Home Town. That is my hometown. So whenever it's on, I watch it.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And I'm like, it's my guidance counselor. It's my guidance counselor. And, you know, Charlie's like, you've worked with, like, Owen Wilson. Why are you excited? Every time we watch TV, you see somebody, we know. But there is something about seeing someone who is not an actor on TV. Yeah. Why is my guidance counselor from junior high?
Starting point is 00:19:43 on television. Yeah, that's the guy from the feed store. I will say there's a documentary called The War Room about the Clinton campaign. Like, and it's basically about like James Carville and George Stephanopoulos, but we're from, you know, Bedford, New Hampshire. And like the first shot of this 1992 documentary is like a street we used to drive down going to school. And I had the same thing.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I'm like, oh, oh, my God, there it is. I mean, like, it's just so funny to like be in show business and still think, like, it's the craziest thing in the world, like, when it's like, you know. is on TV. Because why? Why that? Yeah. I find that with the internet. I saw a crazy, just on the internet, a fight that broke out between like cops and people in a wedding party. And it was in Newport, Rhode Island. And I'm like, oh, I know that. I know that street. But none of the people?
Starting point is 00:20:32 None of the people, thank God. We, our father traveled a lot for business growing up. And then anytime you'd watch a movie that had any international component or like, you know, a city. like they'd be down some street in San Francisco and our dad would always just go, I've been there. Yeah. I've been there. What's your reaction to that?
Starting point is 00:20:52 I mean, initially it was sort of like, whoa, and then I think it got old. Yeah. The two things he liked to say to take us out of the joy of watching a movie was I've been there and I knew it. He said about it. I knew it. He definitely, I'm glad your son didn't see six cents with our dad because he would have, he would have, I knewed it so hard in front of your son. Yeah. Did you, why is there an HG TV show that takes place in your hometown?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Is there something unique about it? No, it's just like a beautiful old little town. And two people who grew up there, they're sort of like the Joanna Gaines and Joanna Gaines' guy. Chip, yeah, Chip and Joanna, yeah. And it's crazy, my parents are like, Mary Elizabeth, people are in their Winnebago's. They drove from Canada to come to Laurel. And I'm like, that's, that is fucking weird. Why?
Starting point is 00:21:48 There's nothing there. There's not like, I mean, there's a cute museum, like a beautiful museum. Did you have, did you have the accent as a kid? Because it sounds like your parents do, certainly. They really do, don't they, Charlie? Yeah. Charlie will get into it, too. Like, he doesn't necessarily do the accent, but he gets into the cadence, like, past the soul.
Starting point is 00:22:10 You get down there. I realize I'm going too fast. I got to slow down. But the first time I met your mom, she was reading a magazine, and I asked her what she was reading. And I could have sworn she was saying she was reading Pitbull Magazine. I'm like, what is Pitbull Magazine? Your mom's reading about Pitbull.
Starting point is 00:22:27 She was excited. She saw you. Did she see you in Pitbull? Yeah, but she was talking about People Magazine. But I could have sworn she was saying Pitbull Magazine. I was like, what is it? And you're like, I haven't even interacted with a Pitbull Magazine. Why am I in that?
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Starting point is 00:26:38 Try it again You know, in improv, yes and is a preferred Yes, no way, but we'd already known each other We prefer the I knew it school of improv Yeah, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it, I do it No, I was 25, Mary Elizabeth, you were 22, right? Yeah, so we've been to together longer than not for me in my time on this earth.
Starting point is 00:27:09 When did you first go to Mississippi, Charlie? This is great, because this is like straight out of like a Ben Stiller movie. Like, I went and I visited her family probably a year into dating each other, right? Something like that. I'd met your mom because she was out in California reading Pitbull Magazine. But I hadn't met your father yet, and he was a dentist. And I got to your house in Mississippi, and they said, hey, you know, Steve's at the office, but like, when's the last time you had a dental cleaning? And you were like 15 years ago?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Well, yeah, no, they're like, you know, do you want like a free cleaning or something? I was like, oh, yeah, sure. I don't know. What the heck? And I'd been living, you know, in New York as a young man. And I, you know, I had a dentist, but I kind of like was, like, slacking on going regularly. I was smoking, you know, like, and I'd forgotten that they don't just clean your teeth, but they also, like, check them for cavities. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:15 So I, so they clean my teeth, and then they're like, by the way, you've got, like, ten cavities. And I'm like, oh, that's news. and they're like, but we'll just, if you want, we'll just take care of them here, like, right away. So the day I met her father, he drilled my face for like two hours. Like, he, like, gave me gas. You know, and it's like, so you're dating my daughter.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Like, you know, like, ah. Like, it was, I was sweating. I was, I honestly was having the thought of, like, what am I doing in Southern Mississippi, getting my face drilled by this man? Like, I'm not sure this relationship. going to last. Mary Elizabeth, do you think he was wondering what were you doing? Like, you go to the big city and bring
Starting point is 00:29:02 back like a full, like, just a rotting toothed. Just a rotten man. As far as first impressions go, it can't have been great from your father's perspective. This is a sugar-eating Yankee. That was not fun, but you did also get to shoot guns for the first time, so that's fun. Then we went
Starting point is 00:29:22 in the woods and shot things. What were you shooting at, like, cans and whatnot? Or squirrels? A log. No, never living things. Okay. I was so bad at it that I took aim at a leaf in a lake, and I pulled the trigger, and I heard the bullet just rattle through the woods across the lake. Not only did I not hit the leaf, I missed the entire lake, and I could have killed like a hiker, you know. Was it like a long gun? Was it a shotgun or a rifle or something? Did you have to hold it close to your face?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah. It was like a 22 rifle. Yeah. A gun for a child. Because we, Seth and I have shot very, very rarely. But that kickback. Yeah, it's so real. Yeah, did you guys, because New Hampshire is like the Mississippi of New England.
Starting point is 00:30:10 It is, but we were not, we were, we did not embrace that part of it. But it is like funny to, you know, we really did grow up not in a liberal bubble. Like, you know what I mean? It's a way people. It's a totally its own thing. And it's kind of a lovely place. to grow up because I do feel like I was like oh no that kind of was like a good
Starting point is 00:30:32 I feel like we grew up with like people all over the spectrum which is a rare thing to do and like also have good neighbors that you like and enjoy talking to it feels like it maybe a lot of guns with a lot of guns around or no I don't think we saw a lot of guns because I didn't see any in Rhode Island
Starting point is 00:30:49 we didn't see a lot of guns but I was just home and my mom and I went to go play nine holes of golf at this course that's like 15 minutes from our house I never knew it was there. And it was this lovely, only a nine-hole course. And we went out and I was thinking how nice it was. And then all of a sudden, all the gunfire from some nearby gun range started going off.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And it was like, oh, okay. Well, this is, you know, this sort of cuts into the peaceful tranquility of this neighborhood that I was like, oh, this is a great little town to live in. And, yeah, when you're near a gun range. Just pursuing their sport. Yeah. My church in Mississippi separated, so like we left the church. Some people stayed. So our church moved to the gun range because that was where there was open space.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So I went to church at the gun range every Sunday. And then when the gun range wouldn't let us go there anymore, we moved to the catfish shack. Wow. There's got to have been a lot of people at that church that were like, damn, I wish I was at the gun range one. Wrong choice. Would they withhold firing during services? Yeah, yeah, we'd set up our folding chairs. Why does a church split?
Starting point is 00:32:09 I think just like maybe differences in I don't, how they want the day-to-day run? I don't know. Right, right, right. It might be like more business side stuff. Yeah, I feel like it's business side. I don't know. I mean, I was a child, so. I assume that's like, yeah. It's just the scheduling of the bingo nights.
Starting point is 00:32:31 It wasn't full schism. It was just like, yeah, just minor disagreements. Yeah, we're still going to be Presbyterians. We're just going to do it at the gun range. And so did you have an accent, Mary Elizabeth? I did. Okay. And you have a sister as well, yeah?
Starting point is 00:32:47 I have a sister who lives in Dallas. I went to school at SMU in Dallas to study theater because my parents told me I had to stay below the mason, Dixon Lahn and on the east side of Texas if I wanted help of school. So there was a proximity rule to get the funding? Yes. Okay. Yeah. And Charlie, like, I remember
Starting point is 00:33:05 when we met, he was like, but like if you like, like, why didn't you just like apply to NYU without them knowing? And I'm like, there wasn't like the internet. I didn't even really know that there was an NYU. Yeah. I just wasn't tapped in in that way. Yeah. Yeah. I would just remember getting
Starting point is 00:33:21 like I still to this day know about certain colleges because we got like brochures sent to our house, you know, like, they just knew you were graduating. Yeah. Biverr College. Yeah, like, Beaver College, like, Manhattan College. Like, these ones where, you know, I'm like, they really think they were like, I think if we don't send out these brochures. Yeah, yeah. The ones that were
Starting point is 00:33:37 hanging on by the mailers system. They're like, we're going to, we're going to go on. They're like, we need a new science professor. It's like, we've got to send out these mailers. We're pouring that money right into these mailers. Start from the ground up. Train them. SMU has a good theater program, though,
Starting point is 00:33:53 if I'm... It was. It was great. There's a lot of, like, working actors from there, and I'm super glad that I went there. I don't know that. I think it's right that I should not have been released just wild into New York City at 18 from Mississippi. I want to say, we just had Brian Bumgartner on, and I think he went to SMU as well. That feels like where he was. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah. He's like, dad was a teacher at Emory, and he was like, they don't have the theater school that I wanted to go to. And I think he went to SMU. I think it's hailed as a good. theater school yeah yeah it was good i met a lot of great people there in fact some people left and went to chicago and started the house theater did you know the house theater i don't think i did the house yeah yeah because it was sort of at the time like new york lay chicago yeah yeah yeah that was it for us did you were you and your sister
Starting point is 00:34:47 close yeah we're close i mean she's three years younger than i am okay gotcha yeah and were you Like, were you the sort of family that would take trips, or did you sort of stick around Mississippi? We did. I mean, my parents definitely preferred to stay, like, in the United States because, like, the world is scary. I think, you know, like, we went to Jamaica once, and it was like, don't even, don't even look out of the car on the drive on the way to, like, sandals are wherever we stayed. It's so funny when people want to take a vacation and so, I know there's a great part of it is, like, just instilling fear in your children about where you're going. You go straight to the resort. Don't even look out the window.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Someone will grab you. My dad was sure you're getting a great. Yeah. Definitely marijuana. But yeah, we actually, we had a beach house in Navar, Florida, which was near Pensacola. So I grew up going to like the Redneck Riviera, as we call it, like North Florida. And Charlie and I still go there. We go there every summer and rent a condo.
Starting point is 00:35:48 We do it right. Like our whole family goes, but we all rent our own condos so we can still love. love each other. Yeah. Yeah. From a distance. Did you own the beach house in Navar? My grandfather built it.
Starting point is 00:36:01 It was like the third one that was built on that beach. And then it got, Charlie came with me a few times and then we lost it in Hurricane Ivan. Oh, wow. Before Katrina. Yeah. Like a couple years before. I think it was right after Katrina. Yeah, right after Katrina.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Took it down to the studs. Wow. And then did you rebuild on that land or is it? No. No, we didn't. It was like too many cousins owned it by that point, and, like, people don't speak to each other, and there's bad blood, and we're like, we didn't think you. This really speaks to why you get your own condo. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:37 So we could just glower at each other across the condo, like. So do you go every year to Navarro? Pretty, we go to Destin. Oh, Destin. Okay, I got you. Yeah. Pretty much, yeah. We try to do summertime in Florida and then in Rhode Island, because Charlie,
Starting point is 00:36:53 grew up in a beach town. How was beach town upbringing? Do you feel like you appreciated that you were in a place that people vacationed? Yeah, it was ideal, you know? I mean, I guess when you're little, little whatever, you don't think anything about it. There's a nice
Starting point is 00:37:09 beach in town. But then when you get to be like a teenager, you know, you see the same people in your small town, but then suddenly there's an influx of new, interesting, and beautiful people, and it's exciting. And, you know, I mean, I never talked to any of them, didn't get to know any of them, but I watched them.
Starting point is 00:37:28 But I saw them, and I studied them. What town was it? I grew up in Middletown, which was right next to Newport, Rhode Island. Okay. You know, Newport's super touristy. Yeah. It's, and it's a similar energy to Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard. They feel very similar, you know, old cobblestone streets and interesting restaurants and tons of bars. but then the beaches are beautiful
Starting point is 00:37:55 and then I just have all my local friends so did you have a summer job where you were serving tourists I had a job for one day at Via Via Pizza but by the end of the day you know they were like I just goofed everything up
Starting point is 00:38:18 like I didn't know how to do the tax on the check and they were like I didn't bring my own pen and I just like everything was wrong and so they were like at the end of the day they were like I was like so when do I come back and like we got your number right and like oh shit
Starting point is 00:38:31 but I did have one really funny job in Newport Rhode Island where I was a janitor at a gym right there on like the main street of Newport called Waterfront Fitness and I guess when Arnold Schwarzenegger was doing the movie True Lies
Starting point is 00:38:52 which they shot him one of the mansions down there. He was training in the gym, so there were all sorts of, like, pictures of him in the gym that I used to have to, like, spray down and polish. And, yeah, that was a funny gig, but, like, was my favorite gig because the guy paid me under the table, and I sort of made my own hours,
Starting point is 00:39:10 and, you know, it wasn't half bad, you know? And I got to say, the women's room, far more disgusting than the men's... Oh, far more disgusting? No way. Yes, yeah. Was that because you refused to clean? it?
Starting point is 00:39:25 I, by the way, I just like that the one similarity so far of your upbringing is that Mary Elizabeth was in a room full of Parker Posey Pictures and you were in one full of Arnold Schwarzeneggerpillar. That's exactly right. You were in towns where if one person came through, they just like decked the walls.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Yeah, exactly. And we were like, we gotta get out of here. Gotta get out of here. I feel like I had a summer job. Like I like or just like that every now and then like I'll drive by like a very nondescript office park and I'll be like oh that would have been such a great place to work as a teenager just like there's just a parking and you just like know they got like a soda machine just like that's all I wanted when I was a kid was like just to go to a place where I don't know there was like a desk yeah I worked at the YMCA I taught gymnastics that was my job like I taught gymnastics to kids which was a good job because it always got paid more than me. minimum wage, you know, and I could kind of do it anywhere. But I also worked the desk at the YMCA, and it was very, like, air conditioning, front facing, meeting people, you know. Yeah. I was talking to my boys about, I wanted to get, like, a temporary tennis net, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:38 just to, like, put in a, like, the driveway just to, like, have them hitballs. And I, so I'm very excited about this idea. And I'm like, I'm going to get a temporary tent. And they were like, great. So it'll be like a tennis. It'll be like a tennis club. And, like, well, we build a structure. And I'm like, but there's not going to be a structure. We're just going to put a net in the driveway. And they're like, but there'll be a table, right, like for us to, like, charge people. I'm like, this isn't a business. Good for that, though.
Starting point is 00:41:01 All they don't care about the tennis at all. They're immediately like, and will there be memberships or will people pay each time? I'm like, nobody's coming. I'm going to spend $40 on Amazon for this net. That's what's happening. I mean, I think they could get some cute little kid to work the front desk for them. Yeah, I mean, don't hold them back. I know at this end of the day.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Like, I'm like, like tennis, they're not going to be professional tennis players, but they can run a business. I should let them lean into that part. They already are learning how to discriminate. Like, who's going to be in this club? Yeah, they're immediately. Like they go, we don't know who's in yet,
Starting point is 00:41:38 but we have a list of our friends we don't want to invite it. We know who's out. So Mary Elizabeth, when you used to go to your grandfather, this place that your grandfather built in Florida, Was it a lot of extended family would sort of convene there at the same time, or was it just your family going down there? Was it sort of one at a time? It was a lot of family.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Like, my mom's cousin was kind of like her sister. They were super close. So her, my aunt has a couple kids, and they would always come. So, yeah, it was like, it was always packed. It was like four bedrooms with like a big living area in the middle. And it would be like a full family in each bedroom, you know, way too many. So you wouldn't have, like, kids would, like, pile into one room. It was, you were with your family and a bedroom.
Starting point is 00:42:23 You were with your family. And on the floor, like, just on a one blanket on the floor with maybe a pillow, if you were lucky. Which is so funny, because I don't think our kid has ever really slept like that. Maybe the last couple sleepovers he had, we, like, piled a bunch of stuff on the floor. But he's always had, like, his own feather mattress and whatever a hotel suite that we stay in, fold out bed. didn't you guys like your parents were like uh there's extra towels so i guess you each get one yeah oh yeah yeah good luck good night yeah yeah my kids are so i mean the other night my son walked into our room and said he needed one of my pillows because he's like i'm just mine or not
Starting point is 00:43:05 and i'm like oh my god are you though or were you immediately like oh my god yes whatever you need to go to sleep i've literally never said no to him um and then what were how long would you go down to Florida? Was it like a full summer, just a couple weeks? Yeah, we go like weeks, like, you know, pile in the like wood-paneled minivan
Starting point is 00:43:28 like in the back at night listening to like, I remember listening to Man Eater that song, whoa, here she comes and being like, what? What is this? Like, whatever it is. I want to grow up to be that.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I don't want to be eaten, obviously. Yeah, like Motown music. Like, it's the music. it's the like the like just gnarly probably going to give me skin cancer sunburns that we used to get you know you put your zinc on like the neon colored zinc um was your family did your parents have like a sort of easygoing vibe on vacation where they like did they road trip well together i mean as much as my pants can be laid back i think yeah they don't laid back isn't really in their wheelhouse right charley yeah i mean i can't imagine no i like not like i mean once they like once your dad gets his feet up in the sand sure yeah but like maybe getting to the where you had to go i can't imagine being too easy going yeah never were you beach people was that sort of the order of the day as you'd spend every day out in the beach and oh yeah for sure yeah and i still feel like a beach part like if someone's like do you want to go
Starting point is 00:44:43 to the desert i'm like maybe like once a year yeah to go to to like Pappy and Harriots or something, but I'm not, I'm a beach person. If I get like a break and Charlie is too, I feel like so. Oh, for sure. Yeah. That's good. Like to be on a beach. And we both have that.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah. Did you guys travel growing up, Charlie? So here's a fun fact. I, uh, so in second grade, we took a very exotic trip to France and Germany. Okay. That's young to take a big trip like that. Yes, my sister would have been in the fourth grade, something like that. And we stayed at my parents' friends' house, people they knew through college,
Starting point is 00:45:26 and we visited their other friends in Germany, and, you know, we saw Notre Dame and the Louvre and all this. And very, very hoity tooty fancy-ish trip. You flew on TWA, I think, you know what I was like? That's how old I am. And then I did not go on an airplane again until I got flown by Fox. to test for Weird Henry when I was 24 years old. So I went on a plane in second grade and went on a plane as an adult man looking out the window
Starting point is 00:46:00 would be like, wow, what up in the sky? And now I'm on a plane 20 times a year. But, yeah. Wait, did you test for Weird Henry? Or were you like Weird Friendry? No, I was going to be Weird Henry. Yeah, and then we did that test. And they were like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:46:15 let's just scrap this show. And then, by the way, two weeks later, I was on another plane testing for a show called Matherhouse. And that was like a college comedy. And on that plane, I met a guy formerly named Rob McElhenny. Oh, my God. Yeah, he changed his name to Rob Mack. But we met on that flight. And that also.
Starting point is 00:46:46 got canceled as soon as we did the audition. Was he testing for it as well? We were testing for the same role. And Rob was furious that I got canceled, and I was like, I think this is just what happens, you know. But so I did not go anywhere, except like driving from Rhode Island to Philadelphia to see my dad's family, you know, every Christmas or something, Fourth of July, a six-hour drive that took my parents a good 10 and a half or 11 hours because they like to keep it under the speed limit. Would you make a lot of pit stops on that drive? A lot of pit stops, a lot of real slow driving. Any music?
Starting point is 00:47:25 Because your parents didn't opt to have the tape player installed on the car, right? Because they didn't want to pay extra. No, my parents were so thrifty that they found a way to get the car company to remove the radio and save an extra, what, 25 bucks? like on no radio. But they were both music teachers, right? Yeah, exactly. And they were just like, but they were like,
Starting point is 00:47:51 that's not important for, that's work stuff. No. Music's work. We've had enough of it. I feel like we've had enough music. We could talk about music theory or Beethoven's life, but we are not going to live in a rock and roll. Yeah, so I had a little,
Starting point is 00:48:06 there was a little plastic plate on the car that said Honda, where the radio goes. That's so funny. What a crazy. way to say it. And your sibling is how, what's the difference between you and your sister? She is three years old. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, yeah. So
Starting point is 00:48:21 did you really, so you met Rob on a plane? I did. Were you guys sitting next to each other? I don't think we were. And I don't exactly remember that moment it happened. I think I spied him in the airport being like, that looks like an actor being flown out to test, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:38 And then maybe spoke to him when we got off the plane and we're looking for like, a car to take us to the hotel and I think we were probably like paired together in the same car you know save a couple bucks but um yeah I don't I don't remember the exact details but yeah on that on that trip and that is that with that friendship again is it did yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it hit it off immediately yeah was the Philly was your parents your dad being from Philly was that one of the early connections because it seems to be a big part of his persona
Starting point is 00:49:07 it must have come up I'm sure yeah um It certainly was a big part of, like, making this show in Philly, where, because originally, when we made that pilot, we were all playing actors in L.A., and that's why we were so self-absorbed, and that was where the human was coming from. And when we sold it to FX, they said, you know, there's a lot of shows about the industry. At the time, there was the comeback with Lice Kudrow, and there was a couple other ones. but um and uh we were trying to figure out an excuse of like why these people are terrible people were like oh maybe we'll make them lawyers or something and then we're like oh actually it's kind of funnier if there's no excuse like they're just really like and we thought we'd set it in an underdog city and rob obviously was so connected to philly and i felt pretty connected
Starting point is 00:50:01 to it myself going there twice a year my whole life so uh yeah that's why we chose philly By the way, what a unique story in that a network had a really good note. You know what I mean? You know, I will say, you know, as much as you hate to give these guys credit. No, that was John Langraff. So a guy who's known for giving a lot of good notes. Yeah, and there's a reason that they've had so many good shows and that he's still running the place and that they've had such a good run and that we've been on for 20 years is that
Starting point is 00:50:36 you know that guy is you know pretty pretty smart i remember you know josh and i obviously opposite coast for over you know 20 years now and uh i sometimes i will just when we visited each other back in the day when i would come visit you like we mostly just watch tv and i remember watching the entire first season uh which was just six episodes right yeah seven episodes seven episodes and uh and it was a it was like just so in that way that i remember because so much of our upbringing was sitting with our parents and like watching cheese and like, so, you're sign-fell, like, we watch so much TV together as a social interaction. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And that was such an exciting week to be like, holy moly. This is, I'm so excited this kind of thing as a show. Oh, that's great. I'm glad that it grabbed you. You know, I never know of that, the early ones, but, um, yeah, it's such a cool thing. I have a moment, I had a moment last year going on to the set and being in that bar and being like, oh, this set now is, I don't know, part of TV history, like the cheer set is.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Yeah. Just what an exciting thing to, like, have that have happened. It's great. It's nuts. And like a 20-year container, you know, like, we're like, oh, did we got married right after the first season, right? We were going
Starting point is 00:51:56 into the second season, so like postponed our honeymoon to go shoot like the second season and so exciting to get a second season of a television show. And Charlie was writing the first season on like a yellow legal pad and then at our beach house in Florida and then driving across the bridge to the FedEx Kinkos to use the fax machine. Yeah. Because we weren't like we didn't have computers, certainly not like Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I didn't have a computer. I spent so much time at FedEx Kinkos in the early part of my comedy camera. Well, I will also say of Seth now. I mean, he's, you know, he's got his office and his show. But he, there is not a printer at Seth's apartment, nor has there ever been. Yeah. And I used to go and want to. He just love some kinkos?
Starting point is 00:52:47 I would want to, like, print a boarding pass back when you would have to print a boarding pass. And I was at my brother's apartment in New York City who was on Saturday Night Live and I would have to go to a kinko's to go print my boarding pass because he didn't have a printer. That's amazing. He's a writer. My boys are a writer. We have a printer now. But we have a printer now because my wife made sure we had a printer. But, like, I think...
Starting point is 00:53:10 With the kids with school, you find that you have to print out something every now and some... Constly, yeah. Just constantly, yeah. And also, I actually think we just have a printer so the kids can constantly go and just take out printer paper and just use it. For the tennis club. Yeah, exactly. For the flyers around town. I also, speaking of the first season, like, it was, of course, the first time I said you, Mary Elizabeth was on that show.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And so it was so delightful that I'd find out that you guys were a couple because the amount that you just found Charlie's character detestable. Yeah, yeah. The most fun. I recommend it for any relationship. I truly. I actually thought like, oh, my God, this is so healthy that they wrote this. It's funny, too, because last night we got to go to the Frankenstein premiere
Starting point is 00:53:59 because Charlie had done Pacific Rim with Garamo years ago. And someone who was, how old do you think that girl was, 16, 17, maybe? No idea. I've been watching your show since I was seven years old. My dad's been showing it to me. And I was like, tell your dad that's inappropriate. And she was like, I will. He's Osgood Perkins.
Starting point is 00:54:22 And I was like, tell Oz Good Perkins that that wasn't appropriate to show this kid. But then they were like, can we take pictures with you? And then someone else walked up and was like, wait, are you guys not? Married. So fun. So it's very fun that, like, people are still putting it together. Figuring it out. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.
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Starting point is 00:57:21 When that trip was over, did you know that that was the last one? Was there an expectation of like we're going to do this every year now? Yeah, I think, like, for a child, you know, everything is new. So if you are a family who goes on a trip, you're like, oh, I guess we're trip people. Right. I mean, I mean, I certainly had the sense that it was special, that it was an event that we were doing a special thing. But I had no awareness that it was going to be the last time that we were all ever. By the way, I have never been on an airplane with my parents since then.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Wow. Yeah, not once, nor do I care to me. But I love it, but I don't need to fly all over the place. I'll go see that. Yeah, they're not big travelers. Mary Elizabeth, did you have, other than your grandfather who built this place in Florida, where were the other grandparents from? Would you go visit them?
Starting point is 00:58:18 Was that sort of? Yeah, my mom's family was from Louisiana, so we would just drive to, like, Baton Rouge for every Christmas or Easter. and, like, my grandmother had a house, like, that she had grown up in their, like, shotgun shack, and then it, like, burned down. And so they built, like, a family house in Port Huts in Louisiana. So, nothing, like, nothing fancy, you know. Yeah, but Baton Rouge is a good town. Like, was that fun going there?
Starting point is 00:58:48 Is it? I don't know. I've had fun there. Yeah, I mean, you know, when you grow up going to visit your family place, You're just like, I know this one suburb, like, where my cousins live. And, yeah, like, we'd catch crawfish in the ditch, like, put, like, gum on, like, a little piece of floss and, like, try to catch catfish. I don't even know cool things about my own hometown. Like, because we would, like, we just spent so much for our life was, like, in our house.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Like, we just, like, hung. I'm like, so people would be like, hey, I'm going to New Hampshire. Like, what should I do? I'm like, I don't know. Like, I don't, like. Yeah. You could go to the Robert Frost House. We've never been, but you could go.
Starting point is 00:59:29 It's there. Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's so strange, too, to raise our son here. You know, we live in a neighborhood that's nice, but, like, everyone has a gate, so, like, you don't know your neighbors. It's super hilly, so you're not, like, out on your bike because it's not safe. Like, people drive like maniacs, and it's just, that's one of the things. I feel like we talk about most as parents.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Like, we just really lament him not having that freedom that we had that was like, yeah, I don't, I don't care where you go. Just go away from me. Like, your parents just be like, just get out. Get out of my house, you know? And he just doesn't get that. I imagine sort of a Rhode Island coastal town is a pretty good place to bike around with your buddies, Charlie. I mean, I was the biggest latchkey kid. like I feel like from the age of like six or seven like really young just being like
Starting point is 01:00:32 see ya I'm out in the neighborhood and getting into whatever and there's kids everywhere and I was still really close with a bunch of them and I mean we would just go wherever I would take my bike in anywhere you know all down the edge of the town and we would do crazy like getting the back of my friend's dad's pickup truck and go over the bridge and hide when we went through the toll booth because it was illegal. It was just very kind of like loose and free. Although this last summer, we were back in Rhode Island and I brought Russell to my friend's house who lived at the bottom of my street.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Russell's your son. Oh, yeah, sorry, Russell's my son. And my friend's house. And they have kids now, sort of his age. And it was my friend's younger brother who had kids. But still, and I threw him in that mix, and they were all still kind of running around in the streets at night. And they don't all live there, but they'll come back for the summer, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Kick the can and capture. Yeah, and all sorts of, yeah. I mean, we would, like, dress in black and, like, try to, like, capture each other and, like, run through people's yards at an age where it got. like too old to be doing it like where they might be frightened if they saw us in their yard but that's a man hiding in my bushes but um yeah it was pretty idyllic i mean even there was like the uh i remember in our high school years like when cops would come to parties you would literally just like run into the woods and like work your way home yeah just like yeah yeah i mean we had a spot down the my road where uh in the winter time we
Starting point is 01:02:17 would chuck snowballs at cars or in the summertime water balloons and the goal was to get chased by the cops because we knew we knew the best escape paths you know like okay and ideally the driver or the cops or someone's going to chase us like it wasn't so much about the hitting the car although there was a thrill in that but it was about the chase it was like we're going to get away yeah i mean it certainly often got away it dials up the excitement to a great degree to have the confidence in pursuit. It is like the power as a kid to make an adult run
Starting point is 01:02:54 is really something when you think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. An adult that wasn't planning on running so they're not dressed for it. It's like, dude, not only you're going to have to run, you're going to have to navigate some dark back little paths here. You're going to hop a few fences.
Starting point is 01:03:09 You're going to have to like go through a rickety shed. Oh, how mad you must be when you realize you're not going to catch the kids. Oh, my God. Yeah. And you're just like, you already climbed over one fence, and you come home, you got covered in leaves, and your wife's like, what was?
Starting point is 01:03:24 You're like, I want to talk about it. Yeah. That's what you get for smoking, you turkey. It would take a lot for me to chase the kid, I think, like, as a cop. I feel like I just like, eh, me. I'm so tired. You hit your little siren thing and just set them off running and be like, that's good enough. Hire some other kids to come chase those kids for me. Like, you, go, go.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Go get them. Would you ever go to sort of the more touristy places? Was there like a boardwalk? Was there an arcade? Was there taffy? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, also there are the Gilded Age mansions, you know, like the breakers and
Starting point is 01:04:05 Rose Cliff, I think, and you would, you know, every now and then I would be either on a school tour of them or I would be with my parents, you know, some friends came in town and they wanted to see them and we would all go. So it got to the point where I like knew the tour so well that like later in life when I went, I'm walking through the breakers and the tour guide saying, and now I bet nobody knows what these three different faucets are for in this beautiful tub. One is for hot water. One's for cold water.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Who can guess that they're salt water. Yes, very good. They had a tub for someone. And then we'd go in the other room. And she'd be like, now, this is a funny little chair. Who thinks you know what this chair is? I'm like, that's a jockey-weighing chair. And she's like, no, it's a...
Starting point is 01:04:59 Yes, it is. How do you know that? That was great. Did you, when... Does Russell get excited to go back to your hometowns? Because it sounds like you take them every now and then? I think you're always going to Rhode Island. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Because there's the beaches and Rhode Island. He's pumped to go shoot some guns with his grandfather when we go to Mississippi. They gave him a Red Rider BB gun for his birth. Oh, wow. Not right out of the gate. Yeah, right out of the gate, straight on to a baby gun. How old was he the first time he fired it? He hasn't fired it ever.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It's been at my parents' house. The first time he went back to visit, he was like one. And a half. And I, my mom met us at the door. And she was like, I'm so, I'm so excited, y'all right here. I've babyproofed the whole house. I have put, I've covered every plug. The stairs are that he can't get in the stairs. He can't open any of the cabinets. Everything is babyproofed. And I was like, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I walked into the kitchen and I was like, except for the gun, except for the gun that's leaning against the door in the kitchen. Why is there a gun in the kitchen? Yeah. Well, it's his gun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a violation if it belongs to him. Yeah. So has Russell been admiring this gun for his 13 years and waiting with sort of baited breath? He's pretty pumped to go back and give it a try. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Fantastic. I mean, we went a couple years ago and shotguns and he had no interest in it. But now at 13, I think it's kind of exciting. Yeah, World War I. The World War II stuff is taken hold. Have you taken, since he's a, now we've established a World War II head, have you taken him to Europe? We haven't. You can do the Band of Brothers tour.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Oh, wow. Has he watched Band of Brothers? Ireland, and we've taken him to Switzerland. We've taken him to, yes, we've taken him to Ireland and Switzerland, but he hasn't gotten to do, like, a World War II tour thing. I think he's seen Band of Brothers. He's seen Saving Private Ryan. He's seen Saved Private Ryan. We were flying to Hawaii, and we landed, and Charlie's like, what did you watch?
Starting point is 01:07:15 And I was like, Moana, too, what'd you watch? And he was like some probably... 1917. It was 1970. No, you ruined my story. I was saying, you... There we go. You watched, like, probably some PTA movie again.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And Russell was like, I watched 1917. Oh, yeah. It's better at three, is you're right. Sorry about that. I just watched for the only the second time of my life on a plane, which is not the way to see it. But I hadn't seen Saving Private Ryan since I saw in theaters. Because it does feel like one of those movies, like, when are you going to watch it again?
Starting point is 01:07:46 Like, you know, but it was a long flight. Didn't it make you cry? It made me cry. Also, yeah. Like, another thing that was weird was just like,
Starting point is 01:07:54 there's so many cameos of like, who was like 1999-ish. Like, like, made me nostalgic for like that era of like, you know? And, and,
Starting point is 01:08:05 uh, your co-star Ted Danson. I forgot Ted Danson. Yeah, he's great. He's great. He pops up for a scene. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah. And it's just like everybody like, it's just like who pops up for a scene. Like, I weirdly was, like, emotional. It was, like, a different kind of emotion of like, uh, Giamatti. Oh, Dennis Farina. Like, just everybody, uh, uh, makes you happy in that movie. The scene that always got me in that movie is the one where, uh, Adam Goldberg, I think his name, dies where he's being stabbed. He's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, you don't have, actually, you don't have to do this. Just don't do it. Yeah. And it's like, well,
Starting point is 01:08:38 I got to do it, you know. It's something. Because it's such, uh, it's such good storytelling because, you know, he's so fast-talking. You know, they just establish his character, and it's like, yeah, it's really, it's really brutal. The Spielberg guy's going to make it. I think so. I think so. This guy's going to make it.
Starting point is 01:08:54 It was funny here. I was on Martha's Vineyard this summer. It was the 50th anniversary of Jaws, and like the amount of, like, the amount of Jaws stuff, and you're like, this is how good this movie is. The place, it's a literally, this is the place where there was a killer shark attack, and the movie's better than, like, reminding people that sharks are in the water. It's just like, yeah
Starting point is 01:09:16 It's like, no, we'll just constantly remind people This is where the shark was And it's like, man Did you see the video of the shark in Block Island this summer That got in the pond? Oh my God I mean, it was like jaw size It was like 20 feet
Starting point is 01:09:31 It was in a pond? It got in the pond just like in the movie Where there's a little channel That goes out into the ocean Then into the pond And it was kind of poking around in there It was a massive shark Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:41 And by the way, if you're Josh You're in L.A. yet? Yeah. Have you seen the Jaws exhibit at the Academy Museum yet? Oh, no. Highly recommend. Oh, great. I've got, our parents are coming out for Christmas,
Starting point is 01:09:54 and I'm looking for stuff to do, so that might be a good one. I took my parents. It was great. My dad got to sit at the Godfather desk. Oh, yeah. You know? The Academy. I love the Academy Museum.
Starting point is 01:10:04 It's really. It's the best. Yeah. Do your parents come out to L.A. much? My parents were just here. They travel. My mom's, like, really good at traveling. My dad,
Starting point is 01:10:13 a little less during SEC football season, but sure. Yeah. There's a couple of Ole Miss. O Miss, I was going to ask. I was going to ask. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:23 God love him. Have you been to, have you been to an Ole Miss game? My entire life every weekend of my life growing up. And Charlie's been a couple times, but then when we started
Starting point is 01:10:35 getting more recognizable, it's hard to be in a group where everyone's intention is to get as drunk as possible. Yeah, yeah. Did you, is it, I mean, again, like, you know, we went, we went to a Big Ten school, you know, the one that's the worst at football. But is it as great as it sounds to go to an SEC football game? Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:57 It's a lot of fun. I highly recommend it. Go check out, yeah, if y'all ever want to go to Ole Miss, let me know. They'll roll out the red carpet, literally because they set up, like, tents with chandeliers and, like, chocolate fun do stations. and, I mean, it's so fancy. People will get dressed to the nines. Yeah. And they get wasted and throw up on themselves.
Starting point is 01:11:19 It's fantastic. I remember it was specifically Ole Miss. We were, it was like a very cold Chicago Saturday. And we were like just watching an Ole Miss game. And like everybody looked so like beautiful and happy. And we were like, why, what are we doing here? We were all just like we should have gone to Ole Miss. There is nothing like that Chicago.
Starting point is 01:11:42 cold, slices right through you. Yeah, it really is the worst kind of cold. Yeah. You guys, it is so wonderful to see you both. Very excited, November 20th, I believe, Man in the Inside season two. Yeah. Very jealous that you get to see my friend Mike Schur way more than I do. Mike Schur's the best.
Starting point is 01:12:01 He really genuinely is the best. Ted Danson might have popped into saving Private Ryan for a scene, but I pop into one scene of Man on the Inside season two. On this season. Looking forward to it. Oh, did I see you there? I just saw you. No, I did not see you there. I was, yeah, I was working with Gary Cole.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Oh, amazing. Yeah. Such a good cast. It's really great. I mean, it feels like, I mean, I hope you're getting great showbiz stories every time you shut down because it's certainly the cast to hear them from. It is. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Every time Mary Steenbergin opens her mouth, she's like, well, no, because I was spending the night in the Lincoln bed. room and you're like, I'm sorry. Tell me more. You know, incredible. All right, before we let you guys go, a speed round question. Josh is going to kick it off. All right. Here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation, relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Adventure. Relaxing.
Starting point is 01:13:02 What is your favorite means of transportation? Train. Oh, wow. Yeah, I like a train, too. Trains amazing. If you can take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? I know this one because I listen to this podcast, and so I've had my answer in my back pocket. The Cedaris is.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Oh. Like to just go spend a week at the C-section? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. So smart. Yeah. Wow. And great stories. Great stories are going to come out of that. The most incredible. Yeah. That's really good. Okay. Okay. I should have something here.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Any family, not my family. Well, I mean, maybe I'll tool around with the Spielbergs for a little bit, just to pick the guy's brain. Yep, absolutely. How'd you do that shot? They just got back to us They don't want you to come That's his vacation That's his vacation
Starting point is 01:14:15 They're like why is he using a different voice Yeah He talks like that on vacation It's so annoying I can't leave this late into the podcast We're finding out about vacation voice Yeah Yeah actually
Starting point is 01:14:27 This is my actual voice And I kind of put the other one on Oh I see It's a little more comedic Yeah but That'd be amazing It'd be amazing to find out that Charlie Day has been using a fake voice all these years. Because he thinks his normal one's too normal.
Starting point is 01:14:44 It's just too normal. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My wife. Oh, well said. Okay. Also, also his wife. Yeah, there you go. That would be my wife's answer, for sure.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Yeah. All right, Charlie, we're going to start with you here. You're from Middletown, Rhode Island. If you were the head of the Board of Tourism for Middletown, how would you pitch that town to get people to come visit? Oh, man. And I want people there? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Okay. But you can slip up and say something and be like, oh, we need to, you know. Yeah, beautiful beaches, great restaurants, home of Charlie Day. Great. I'm really good. obviously the gym's got pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger yeah yeah yeah local gym local janitor makes good yeah clean uh clean frames men's rooms yeah right women's room less so not so much uh Mary Elizabeth the same for Laurel Mississippi I would say hey y'all come to Laurel touch the trees look at some art you might be able to high five Parker Posey
Starting point is 01:16:07 That's pretty good. Excellent. And then Seth has our final questions. Have you guys been to the Grand Canyon? Yes. We have. We did a road trip from L.A. to Louisiana with our little rat terrier, whose name was Arthur. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:16:24 And we, it was for Christmas, it was two degrees. Yeah. Oh, because my next question was, was it worth it? I mean, I will never, I will never forget the steam coming out of our dogs. butthole as he peaked on... So worth it. Fasten. It's worth it.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Very worth it. Well, there is the surreal thing of like seeing something that you've seen so many pictures of movies and be like, yeah, well, there it is. Yeah. The very fact that you went to this incredible thing that everybody's has, you have to see your memory is your dog's butthole steaming. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Not just the poop, but his literal butt. And the, and that upon seeing it, you were like, yeah, there it is. There it is. It's like a tea kettle. His butt turned into a tea kettle. We're like, wow, but wow. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:17:12 Look at that. Yeah. You guys are the best. Thank you so much. Lovely talking. Yeah. It's great to see both your faces. Mary Elizabeth,
Starting point is 01:18:06 From the south was news to set Mississippi, little town called Laurel. Mom ringed pit bull, when they'd go shoot guns, wouldn't shoot the squirrels. Charlie's neglected teeth, Mary Elizabeth's dad looked at him from free, took out his drill, ten cavities filled was a new man, Pronto. Renek Riviera, all were under one roof, but now stay in condos. When she went to church, it was a gun range or the catfish shack. And in Baton Rouge, she would catch carfish, working at the wife, AC at the checking desk, teaching little kids. Teaching little kids
Starting point is 01:19:06 Some gymnastics Charlie worked at the gym After the pizza place fired him Polished picks of bulging pecks that belong to Arnold Dirtiest place there Women's locker room At least that's what we're told To Philly he would go
Starting point is 01:19:38 A six hour drive that took them ten But no radio Because they didn't need it It was like to below When they went to the Grand Canyon Arthur had to go But hole was steaming

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