Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - CHASE SUI WONDERS Participated in Native Alaskan Games!

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Chase Sui Wonders joins Seth and Josh on the pod this week! She talks all about visiting Nauru in the South Pacific Ocean, summers growing up on the lake, the travel documentary she made with her brot...her, participating in native Alaskan Games, and so much more! Plus, she chats about her upcoming film I Know What You Did Last Summer! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- Support our sponsors: Baltimore is just a short drive or train ride from New York, Philly, and D.C. Plan your visit today at Baltimore.org Baltimore: You won’t get it ‘til you get here! Go to Quince.com/TRIPS for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns. Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/TRIPS and use promo code TRIPS at checkout. Family Trips Live from Amsterdam will be released on 7/17 and was made possible by Airbnb. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, buddy. Hi, Sufi. It's been a week since we got back from Amsterdam. How are you feeling? Are you back in the swing of things? Yeah. I mean, still tired, still more tired than I would like to be. You said you have not been able to call mom and dad and not have one of them be asleep.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Yeah. It's usually mom. Yeah. And yeah, she's still pretty rocked from it. But I think they had a great time. That's good. Yeah, Ash had a great time. We brought back a lot of soccer jerseys for the other kids.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Yeah, I feel like every time I would see you in Amsterdam, you had just gotten back from another trip to the soccer store and the Lego store. Yeah, I mean, the Lego store was just a place to go while they were ironing names on the back of the jerseys. So that was sort of what we were doing. Yeah. Cause immediately, of course I bought,
Starting point is 00:00:57 I ideally would have taken one trip to the soccer jersey store. But then of course that night I called and Axel told me exactly what he wanted. Which is what? He wanted the IX, which is the Amsterdam soccer team. He wanted their home jersey, which is like that red fat stripe down the middle.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Gotcha. And he wanted his name on the back and he wanted the number seven. Gotcha. Because he's seven years old and that's never gonna change. So it's good to get it iron on permanently. Well, that's great. Yeah. Also, the video that's been the biggest hit based on the trip is Efteling. We talked about
Starting point is 00:01:38 the amusement park. Uh huh. The trash receptacle. Oh yeah. Paper here. Yeah. Paper here. Paper here. So, paper here means paper here, and it's just like a little, how would you describe, a cherubic carved into the rock fella? Yeah. He's a big fat guy. Big fat guy with his round mouth that's big enough to take trash.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And he's very hungry. He's always hungry. And so if you walk by him, he's sort of going, Papyr here! Papyr here! Hello! Hello! He's calling for trash. He's calling for trash. And then it's also got like a light sucking from within. So if you put a paper there, it goes, yeah, it's sucked right off. And then he immediately thanks you for it.
Starting point is 00:02:34 He goes, oh, don't give L, don't give L, don't give L. And on maybe like every third piece of trash that he takes in, he also has a pretty good fart. Yeah. Which, yeah. And as amusement parks go, this one is kind of leaning into kids like farts and let's not look down our nose at it.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah. So crush it. So we got a video of Papyr here and the subsequent fart after three pieces of paper and Axel and Addy, I mean, it's like there's a Pruder film as far as how many times they want to watch it. So it's real good. Yeah, we also, I mean, one of the highlights for me
Starting point is 00:03:17 was we had a adults versus kids wiffle ball game in Vondelpark, the sort of the central park of Amsterdam. And our friend Jill brought wiffle ball game in Vondelpark, the central park of Amsterdam. Our friend Jill brought wiffle balls and she was upset, is I think a gentle word to say what she actually was. But when they told her you can't bring a wiffle ball bat. She got it to the airport. Yeah. Then they were like, you can bring this on. I always had a lot of questions
Starting point is 00:03:45 as to how she intended to get a bat on a plane because a Wiffle Ball bat does not fit in a piece of luggage. Right. I mean, I suppose if you checked a piece of luggage, but I don't even know if a Wiffle Ball bat would fit in a check piece of luggage. Unless it's like a trunk.
Starting point is 00:04:00 A trunk or like a big duffel. But did she try to bring it as a carry-on? I think so. Yeah. And they were like anything that can be swung as a bat, as a weapon. So she had to leave it behind and she was like, it's fine, we'll just go into the woods at Vondelpark
Starting point is 00:04:15 and get a stick. And I was like, all right. And then when we all met up at this field that we sort of- Let me just echo in saying that when I heard this plan, I was like, you're never going to find a stick. Yeah. That's as good as a bat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And her son, Jackson, had gone into this like, you know, these brambly little woods and pulled two of the best baseball bat sticks I've ever seen in my life that felt good in your hand. It was nuts. And by the way, sort of immediately, like I'm like, this isn't gonna work. And Jackson went into the woods and like three steps in, he's like, got two. And there were a couple kids that were like, I don't want to use this thicker one. I want to use the thinner one. So we had options. We had two different bats. And we had a wonderful game. We had a wonderful game. The kids won.
Starting point is 00:05:09 The kids won 7-6. And when you play baseball in Holland, like, passersby can't help but stop and be like, what is this game? Yeah. It's like how in American parks, if like a French family starts doing Cirque du Soleil. That's what it's like when you see basically baseball is the Cirque du Soleil of Europe. It's like what is this? What is this foreign way to pass time? Yeah. And do they really play with sticks found in the woods? Yeah. And we definitely looked like a family from the 1950s that is like playing with a stick. Yeah, but that was just great.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And that was just sort of like a couple hours in the park, grab some snacks and some drinks and- You got me my favorite snack in the world. You brought it and I showed some restraint because if I'd eaten the whole container, I'd still be working it off. But yeah, spicy Pindas.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah, the ket yang pedas, I want to say. And it's like an Indonesian spicy peanut. It's a deep fried peanut. So imagine a peanut with like a deep fried shell. Yeah. And obviously, it gets healthier. Covered in a very spicy mix. Yeah. And I could eat a billion of them, but I had like five healthy handfuls.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Yeah. I was on the regular running to our favorite old Dutch grocery store, the Albert Heijn. There was one very close to the hotel. And I used to get this like chicken curry salad, this kipkari salad that I was just such a fan of. And there was a vegan version. And so- Really?
Starting point is 00:06:58 A vegan kipkari salad? Vegan egg salad, they got lots of vegan stuff in there. So I was, you know, every restaurant we went to didn't necessarily have a ton of stuff for me, but then my, the ace in the hole for me was, I was gonna run to the grocery store on the way home and fill up on my old, old school snacks. I have one criticism of the New Boom Chicago,
Starting point is 00:07:20 our old theater, where you will hear our live podcast recording. They don't serve Heineken on tap. I know in Amsterdam Heineken on tap is considered the Miller Lite of Dutch beers. Nobody thinks of it as fancy or good, but I love a Heineken on tap and I don't care. Because basically every bar in
Starting point is 00:07:44 Amsterdam has two beers on taps and that's it. I don't care. I don't care because basically every bar in Amsterdam has two beers on taps and that's it. Like they don't have like bottles of other beers. So you just have the tap beer and I miss it. Well, I found that a lot of bars had more options than they used to, but I also don't like that because it used to be, you just say like, can I get two beers? And they would bring you two beers. And now they are like, what kind used to be you just say like, can I get two beers?
Starting point is 00:08:05 And they would bring you two beers. And now they are like, what kind of beer do you want? And I'm like, no, just the basic. Two beers. Yeah. Just two. I like beer and I want to give you a number. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And it used to be the same with like white wine and red wine. You'd say like, can I get two red wines? And they just bring you two red wines. Yeah. Because I don't't let's just be honest. I don't like being Out to dinner with people who have a lot of questions about the wines All right, this is a real delight of a conversation, oh my gosh a friend of a friend This is a chase we wonders who's on the studio with our dear friend, Ike Barinholtz, and
Starting point is 00:08:48 he had nothing but great things to say about her. And our friend was right. Yeah. And she's in the new, I know what you did last summer, which is coming out like in days. Maybe it's already out. Days. Yeah. What a fun summer movie.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I have a question about, well, we're speaking of the summer movies. Our buddy Akiva Schaffer directed the new Naked Gun. Oh yeah. Comes out August 1st. Yeah. I'm wondering if Ash, at nine years old, would he enjoy the first Naked Gun? I think it's worth finding out.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I think it's worth finding out, yeah. Yeah. I think maybe that's something to try. Yeah. I think it's gonna finding out. Yeah. Yeah. I think maybe that's something to try. Yeah. I think it's going to be right up his alley. Maybe I'll watch it when mom and dad come. Maybe we'll do a movie night and watch naked. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good call. Right. All right. Well, enjoy Chase Sweet Wonders and enjoy this song. And thanks for listening listening everybody. Family trips with the Myers Brothers.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Family trips with the Myers Brothers. Here we go. Oh hello! Hello. Hi, guys. How are you? This is very, this is very exciting for us. This is very exciting for me after all I've heard about you from our good friends, Catherine and Ike. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. Friends, friends of friends. Yeah. Friends of friends. To listeners of the show, I mean, Ike Barinholtz is a name that gets dropped so much here just because he is so much to us. But also like he just delivers.
Starting point is 00:10:34 We just did a live show in Amsterdam that he was part of and he's so funny. Ike is the funniest guy in the world, and also whip smart. Yep. And he's just the most unassuming, he's like a surprise every day. Right, because he's the dumbest presenting smart person I've ever met. 100%. And by the way, I think it speaks to his intelligence that he realizes professionally his bread
Starting point is 00:11:03 is buttered on people thinking he's a little bit dumb. He's a dummy. He's a dumb, dumb. Yeah. 100%. But he also just has to sneak in who wants to be a millionaire win and a jeopardy win occasionally. Yeah. I think he's almost a little ashamed about winning millionaire because he thinks it's a tier below jeopardy. Totally. 100%. But he has to clarify, charity. It was for charity. It's for charity. I had to do it with my dad.
Starting point is 00:11:31 It was like a favor for my dad to do one of those. And also FYI won Jeopardy. Yeah. Yeah. Just casually. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm coming at you from my childhood bedroom. Oh, that's so exciting. Josh'm coming at you from my childhood bedroom. Oh, that's so exciting. Josh has done multiple pods from his childhood bedroom.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So that's very... So this is Bloomfield, Michigan? Bloomfield, Michigan. Yes. Suburbs of Detroit. Bloomfield Township, technically. Okay, gotcha. So I looked at a map. And you guys are Midwest guys. We're Midwest. We were Michigan for a little while. We were Okemos, Michigan guys. I'm not familiar with Okemos.
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's East Lansing. East Lansing. Okay, okay. Yes, yes, yes, of course. Our mother was getting her masters at Michigan State when I was maybe two to five. So you have fond memories? Very fond memories. We love the Duck Park.
Starting point is 00:12:21 We love the Duck Park, which was a park that had a different name, but not to a three-year-old. Plus to children when you bring a loaf of Wonder Bread and just throw it at ducks. It's hard to remember what the actual name was. But it is Detroit. You are in the orbit of Detroit in Bloomfield? It feels very like the world and the culture here is centered around Detroit. I mean, it's 15 minutes away here. Oh, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:12:48 So, so close. So, eight mile is like right over there. So, I'm technically like 13 mile. Years ago, we went to a Super Bowl that was in Detroit, and the hotel that we stayed in was in Troy, that I believe is like right next door to you guys. Yes, exactly. And it was a five night minimum. That is night minimum to come in for the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And so we spent five nights up in Troy. That tells you how the Detroit economy is doing. They pressure you into five nights. Well they got you by the whatever's on the Super Bowl. It's like, do you want to come for the Super Bowl or not? And it was fabulous. I will say Detroit, this was years ago, but Detroit rolled out the red carpet
Starting point is 00:13:29 and they leaned on the Motown of it all. And it was a blast. Detroit is like kind of really cool. Yeah. I mean, I totally, I last not this April, but the April before I did stand up in Royal Oak, Michigan, which my agents told me was Detroit, and it definitely wasn't. No.
Starting point is 00:13:51 But weirdly, the night I did stand up, my friend Tim Robinson was doing his I Think You Should Leave live show, I think at the Fox Theater, is that... And he's from here. He's from there. But I'm walking around, like the... there were multiple comedy shows in Detroit that night all sold out shows and those giant beautiful old theaters and It's a really kind of crazy cool place because they the architecture of the boom era in Detroit still seems intact
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah, it's all this art deco. And it was one of the wealthiest cities in the country at one point. And so you have all this, like, history that you can see and a lot of stuff that is preserved. I went to the Edsel Ford, Henry Ford's house yesterday in Grosse Pointe, Michigan, if you're familiar. Uh-huh. He used to go to the tourism activities in Detroit. Did you do that because you knew you were on sort of a tourism-based podcast the next day and you were like, I gotta go. Yeah, I gotta get my trips in.
Starting point is 00:14:50 We can talk about Edsel Ford for the next 45 minutes. How? I mean, by the way, I go home as well. Like I've been in my childhood bedroom recently, but when I went home, I did not do anything of that nature. What brought you to go to the Edsel museum? Listen, so I have two nephews. Okay who are
Starting point is 00:15:10 I'm very excited to be on this podcast because my family is um They have we have unconventional travel habits. Okay. There's basically no rest for the wicked the sweet wonders household There's basically no rest for the wicked in the Sweet Wonders household. So, and we're looking for like off the beaten path, like things that people don't normally do. So tourism, I mean, I would never, going to the Essel Ford House growing up,
Starting point is 00:15:38 would be like, what? Absolutely not. Yeah, okay, good, glad to hear it. But because there's like novelty of going, coming home and like taking advantage of what the surrounding area has to offer, we're going to stuff every day. We're going to like these, the duck ponds
Starting point is 00:15:56 of our surrounding area and like treating it like, it's like an exciting event, you know? How old are these nephews? They're 11 and 10. Oh, great. And they're all about adventure. That's good, Carr Museum. Yeah, that's good, Carr Museum age.
Starting point is 00:16:10 So are these, how many siblings do you have and whose children are these? So I have two older brothers, one older sister and I'm the youngest of four. Got it. And these are my oldest brother's kids. Gotcha. Okay, gotcha. Yes, yeah. are my oldest brother's kids. Gotcha. Okay, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yes. Yeah. And my oldest brother still lives in Detroit. So he's, you know, he actually has explored, done the tourism of Detroit better than us all because he's lived here in his adult life. Right. So had his children been to this museum before? Honestly, the oldest one had.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He had, he was giving us the tour. He was showing us around. He was kind of upset that we were returning to a place he'd already been had. He had. He was giving us the tour. He was showing us around. He was kind of upset that we were returning to a place he'd already been before. Got it. Gotcha. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Delete Me.
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Starting point is 00:20:32 Go to Baltimore.org to plan your vacation or getaway today. Here we go. With the unconventional nature of the Sweet Wonders trips, is this from the top down? Like who would you attribute it to? Okay, so honestly, it comes from my mom. Okay. And this has been our entire life.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So basically, you guys know Michigan, you know it's all about the lake life. Yeah. You know? And the summers are spent kind of like, how you can, it's like keeping up with the Joneses of who has like the most bougie kind of lake life setup, whether you're on like Walloon
Starting point is 00:21:11 or like Petoskey Harbor Springs. And my mom was just vehemently against that culture. She was like, if we're gonna travel, we have to, I don't want you doing what all the other kids are doing. And just kind of joining this like monotonous lifestyle. She famously said, I'm not raising lake people. No, no lake people. No swamp people allowed in my home.
Starting point is 00:21:37 So what would you do in lieu of that? So I mean, basically, like, if we cut it clearly, like the whole family kind of gets off on the least visited places in the world. So kind of top of the list has got to be the country of now room. Okay. Yeah. Are you familiar? You well you're the first guest.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, definitely over 100 episodes. Yeah. Okay. Oh, you're the first guest in over a hundred episodes who's mentioned. Okay, well I'm so glad because I'm pleased. And now, Nauru, if I remember correctly, you get through it, you enter a wardrobe? Yes, yes, yes, sort of, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Mr. Tumnus is there to greet you.
Starting point is 00:22:17 That's fantastic. So he is real. Okay, good, because you hear people say, oh, those are just stories, but I'm glad to hear he's real. In the flesh and blood. Was there a season of Survivor that was on Nauru? Honestly, I think there was one really close by. I think there was one really close by.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I believe there was one in Fiji and surrounding islands in Micronesia. But basically, Nauru is very unique in that it is the least visited country in the entire world. Perfect for the sway-brander family. Perfect. Checks a lot of boxes for us. It's 200 nautical miles away from anything.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And it is shaped like a donut. It's shaped like a donut. I'm looking at it right now. It seems like it's very small. Is that accurate? It's incredibly small. I'm saying that based on the fact that based on the map, there's a restaurant that's about a third of the island.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yes, Capellan Partners has kind of a monopoly over the entire island. They own the hotel, they own the grocery store, they own several restaurants. And that is, yeah, it's 12 miles around, no traffic lights, one traffic light on the island, and that's simply so airplanes can land. They have to shut down the road so that an airplane can land. Of course. So it's basically like a railroad crossing, but the island's so small, it's for airplanes. It's for airplanes. It's for airplanes. So, all right, so who and so your mom was like, guys, we're going to Nauru.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well, so this was kind of like a long standing joke throughout our entire youth. Like, what if we went to the craziest place ever? And it turned out to be it was kind of like, yeah, just a long running joke that turned into a Memorial Day weekend. We spent four days on the island of Nauru. And it is just to give you some backstory about this island. It was in the 1980s. It became the it's the smallest country. It's the smallest Republic in the world, least visited. But in the 1980s, it became really rich in phosphate mining. And the Germans and British discovered that it was like this jewel of the Pacific.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So it became the wealthiest GDP per capita of the entire world in the 80s, which is crazy because there's 10,000 people. And then just, they strip mine their entire island. So the entire interior of the island is this like strip mine phosphate that's basically uninhabitable because the way you mine phosphate is you like dig deep in and then what's left are
Starting point is 00:24:49 these like limestone pinnacles. So the beaches are, you can't really walk on the beaches because they're just like these phosphate pinnacles that are jutting out of the water. You are doing a terrible job selling Nauru. Okay, what? Just a vacation destination. But hold on, hold on, she's not done. But wait, there's more. I know, I know, a lot of people like to walk on the beaches, but this one? Yeah. So these people have this like very rich history.
Starting point is 00:25:16 At one point, it's a welfare like haven because at one point they had a $2 billion national trust because of all the phosphate mines. like haven because at one point they had a two two billion dollar national trust because of all the phosphate mines so they had free health care free taxes free schooling free transportation people were driving around in Ferraris driving that 12 mile radius in Ferraris it's it's like a fascinating anthropological place but unfortunately as many go, they made a series of bad investments. They bought up a lot of real estate. There was a sprinkle of corruption in the government there.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And they put on they were, you know, that episode of The Simpsons where like the guy comes in and is like, I'm going to make a he's like the monorail snake. Yeah, the monorail snake salesman. So there's basically that kind of guy that said, we're going to put on Leonardo the musical. It's a $20 million investment. And we're going to put it on in London and the now real national trust should fund it. So they put on this musical in London. They flew their entire population out on, they have like a fleet of Boeing 737s flew out their entire population. And the show closed within the first opening night.
Starting point is 00:26:28 They didn't realize it wasn't even about Leonardo da Vinci. It was. It turned out it was about the ninja or whatever. The Ninja Turtle. Yeah, exactly. You know, it's so shocking because I feel like most stories where an island gets stripped mined for phosphates by the British and the German have happy endings? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:26:47 So wait, so the interior that gets strip mined, that affects the exterior beaches? Well, the whole island. So basically the way phosphate is created. Also, I should say, the reason I did so much of a deep dive is because there's not so much to do on this island. We made it our mission to learn every kernel of history.
Starting point is 00:27:11 So I know about the founding of Nauru, and my brother and I actually made a sort of travel documentary while we were there. We met, it's so small that we met one of the ex-presidents and had the first hibachi dinner on the island of Nauru at an ex-presidents house. This is the immersion that we did on this island. They must have been so flattered that you were there. No, I did not. And were curious and like.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Exactly. One of the president, he says to us, why no one just comes to Nauru? Why are you in Nauru? Why Nauru? And so kind of the only people that come there are the people that are checking off every country in the world.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So they stop there for a couple hours, but we were there for a couple of days. But so phosphate is formed from bird droppings over, bird shit over centuries and centuries. And so the whole island was so rich with bird shit, the whole island like was, had to be mined for phosphate. It was just pump and dump and shipped away. I like that it was just birds were flying across the ocean
Starting point is 00:28:20 and they just, they don't have any pleasure in shitting unless it lands on land. Yeah, exactly. They shouldn't water it, it means nothing though. That's not for me. I'll hold it for 200 nautical miles. Daruza Jizan. You know, I think there's no greater proof that you're a tiny country
Starting point is 00:28:38 than knowing it's the first hibachi dinner. Yeah, of course. You know what I mean? Like it's so small. You're like, this definitely, no one here has this. This is historic. This is, it's a historic event. I will say a benefit to Nauru, it is, it has no crime
Starting point is 00:28:55 because there's so much accountability because everyone knows each other. So we were handed a whip when we first got there to ward off the feral dogs. They're very generous people. Pauline on the airplane, she said, you're gonna need this whip. Just give it to me before you leave. It's so funny to be like, you're gonna love it here.
Starting point is 00:29:16 There's no crime. You'll be very safe. Anyway, here's the feral dog whip. Return it. Return it. We know where you're staying. The only crime on this island is weirdly theater fraud. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Do you... So what would you do of an afternoon when you weren't hanging out with the former president? Right. Freddie Pitcher. Great guy. Couldn't go to the beach. What was his name? Freddie Pitcher, great guy. Couldn't go to the beach. What was his name? Sorry, what was his name? Freddie Pitcher, Freddie Pitcher. Pitcher?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Freddie Pitcher. The current president is Baron Wacha and he was away on state business. So we went to meet him. When was this that you were on this island? This was 2018. Okay. 2018, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I actually, I was just working in Australia and one of their investments was the tallest skyscraper in Melbourne called Nauru House. So they have a worldwide presence. Yeah. They're trying to come back. They're trying to come back. My brother is a very smart guy and the president actually asked, was like brainstorming over
Starting point is 00:30:21 the Sabaji dinner, like what kind of things can we do to revitalize our country's economy? So we went fishing, that's one of their big industries nowadays, is they sell their fishing rights to surrounding countries. But the phosphate mining has created a bit of a drip off, so a lot of the aquatic life is dying. Which is dying. Yeah. It's um, right?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Which is great. Yeah. But honestly, it's really a beautiful place. I know I'm not going to jump- No, so this is fascinating. So I guess my question was going to be based on not being able to walk on the beach and you know, basically that, you know, as you've described it, it's an island of bird shit. When your parents got there,
Starting point is 00:31:05 was there ever a moment where they're like, oh, maybe this wasn't as funny as we thought it would be? Or was everybody like... Could have gone to Fiji. I mean, you seem to have a, I mean, based on the last 20 minutes, you seem to have an optimistic nature. Is this true of the whole Sweet Wonders family?
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yes. Was everybody like, this is rad? Yes, I think, honestly, everybody was gassed to be there. And explore every single corner, talk to the people. They're so nice, these people, because they have a very beautiful life. It's like real island time there. And kind of everybody, it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:42 the quality of life is quite good. And so we would, I mean, we went to the phosphate mines. We actually, because, I mean, because like I said, it's a kind of, there's no crime there. It's very kind of lax. We got to drive one of the phosphate bulldozers, the caterpillars, the classic tourist activity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:05 One of the fun, because there's still, there's like 5% of the island still has these phosphate mines that they can still eke out. Yeah. Yeah. So we, one of the workers there, we were like, can we drive your caterpillar? And he was like, yeah, sure. So we have like bulldozing footage. How old were you on this trip?
Starting point is 00:32:24 I was, I just graduated college. I was 21. Great. Oh my God. And the whole family went? No, it was just me, my brother and my mom. But my whole family is so annoyed that they didn't come because we talk about this trip so often.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So often. So I mean, it's so also deeply funny to me that you went for four days because this is a million miles away. Yeah, yeah, the travel time is about 21 hours. You have to stop in Fiji and then you have like a four hour layover in Fiji and then in Suva. And then you take the, it's like a four and a half hour flight from Fiji.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And you didn't tack any like time on in Fiji to like- No, no. And at the Fiji- I've never been from Fiji. And you didn't tack any like time on in Fiji to like- No, no. And at the Fiji airport were they like, I think you're making a mistake. 100%, I mean, the only people on that flight are people who live there. That's it, that's it. There's really no one else.
Starting point is 00:33:22 So I should also say an and interestingly about Nowruz, because it's so far away and because the land is strip mined, there's no place to grow anything. So everything's imported. And as a result, unfortunately, it is one of the most obese countries in the world. Gotcha. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And a lot of diabetes going on there. So. Great. Which is, but honestly, great food. Great food in the great West-French. I know. It's kind of nice to know, because I feel like obviously America has this reputation as this wealthy, obese country, and it's nice to know that Nauru is kind of, I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:59 they're the ones driving, they're the fatties and Ferraris. Yeah. Exactly. They have a great life. They're all happy about it. It's definitely like a status symbol. Yeah, it feels like maybe three generations from now aren't gonna be loving Nauru,
Starting point is 00:34:12 but it seems like the current crop. Yeah. The current crop is having a great time. I mean, we've met a lot of the locals. We met the ex-president's nephew who took us fishing. So everyone is like really has a lot of pride for Nauru and they're really happy to share it because they don't give visitors that often.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So they're desperate to just like talk about their history of this island. Did they have, do you know, I'm such a fan of like the Olympics and I'll always watch that opening ceremony. Do you know if they send athletes to the Olympics? I feel like they'd be one of those countries that has like two people.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Oh my God. I don't think they do, but I do know the nephew, Kenneth Oppenheimer, who we met, he studied in New Zealand. These are like the nobility of Nauru. The names are fantastic. Yeah, so he studied in New Zealand and he was like on track to be a pro rugby player. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:11 But they have kind of like, so a lot of them go overseas because it was on the government dime that their schooling gets paid for. So a lot of them go overseas to Australia and New Zealand to go to college. Gotcha. And we're still in contact with these guys.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I want to go back. Yeah, yes. I was wondering when you left, was there a vibe of, we'll see you guys soon? Yeah, there definitely was. The country motto is, tomorrow will take care of itself, which I think is a great motto. Tomorrow will take care of itself, which I think is a great motto. It's tomorrow will take care of itself.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Well, it's certainly- So let's not worry about it. So let's not worry about a single thing. That's a tomorrow problem. It's a good motto to have when you're signing away mining rights. Exactly, exactly. So, but now is this like an outlet? Like what's the next closest trip you took to Nauru?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Or is... Okay, it's not an outlier, unfortunately. It does take the cake for kind of craziest places, but recently, I guess this was a couple years later, for New Year's, we went to Barrow, Alaska, which is the northernmost point in the continental United States. Ever got to Barrow, Alaska on this show? Nope. Nope. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And I mean, imagine like just so much sunlight at New Year's. Oh yeah, exactly. Right on the money. Yeah, not 24 hours of darkness at all. Not 20 degrees. So whose idea was this one? This is also a collective. This is also a collective. This is also collective. Also, we plan our trips really, really last minute. So if you're trying
Starting point is 00:36:50 to plan a trip to the Caribbean on New Year's, those airline prices are not friendly. But if you're trying to plan a trip to Barrow, Alaska. Seats available. Seats are available. Yeah, negative 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Also, the people on that plane are Native Alaskans and the oil workers working at Prudhoe Bay, which is a giant oil rig near Barrow, Alaska. So that's who we were traveling with. And polar bears are a big threat there. So you have to... So they give you a whip? No, we were going to do like a pilgrimage out on the ice road out to like this like the real northernmost point. And there was this guy who had a gun, native Alaskan, he was like, I'll take you out there.
Starting point is 00:37:45 We might see some polar bears, it might get a little dodgy. And we were going to do it, but we kind of drew the line there. Yeah. Because, you know. Yeah, I guess if I was trying, if I had my druthers, like taking an ice road to nowhere with a local who had a gun, and a chance that polar bears are going to attack. So how many of you went on this trip to Barrow?
Starting point is 00:38:08 This was me, my brother, my sister, and my mom. Yeah. Okay. Yep. And we actually participated in the native Alaskan games. So to your question, Josh, about Olympics, they have their own kind of Olympics. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Where they have these like native Alaskan games. It used to be a whaling village. So there are all these like whale carcasses everywhere. Again, very beautiful place. Yeah, I believe it. It's dark. You can't see much. But in the gymnasium, we participated with, we were kind of scared like that they wouldn't be welcoming. But everyone was like, come on in. My brother's doing the arm wrestle with this giant native Alaskan. And yeah, so it's again, a real cultural immersion there. What was the most unusual of the games? There was one, like, there was one where you,
Starting point is 00:39:04 well, the arm wrestle is interesting in that you have to lay on your belly and it's got one hand behind the back and you lay on your belly and you kind of like it's kind of like half wrestling match but you can only use your arm yeah yeah and it all takes place like in this gymnasium it's a lot of like agility stuff, like, but games you've never seen before, there's like one with a string and a ball and like, whirling, it, I, it's, it's games that, you know, are clearly a product of being in the northernmost part of,
Starting point is 00:39:36 of the continental United States. Sure. Yeah. They were trying to like, what's a good game that doesn't require light? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's a good game that doesn't require light. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Exactly. So what were you eating in Barrow, Alaska? Barrow, Alaska, much like Nauru, everything is so expensive there because the only way in is an ice road that only fully freezes over in the wintertime. So you can only get things in via plane. So like toilet paper rolls are like $20.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Everything is absurdly expensive. So we were cheapos in my family. So we went to a pizza place and I think we got like one large pepperoni pizza, but it was like $87. Yeah. Do they just have like a lot of oil money up there? It's a lot of people who work on the oil rig, but a lot of native Alaskans get paid by the government
Starting point is 00:40:34 to, you know, they get paid to have kids. So a lot of them have like 15 kids. So each kid is like a lot of money. So a lot of them don't necessarily work. Gotcha. I can tell you from like, how many kids I have and how much toilet paper they use. 15 kids is like a billion dollars worth of toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Based on what you have set as the price for toilet paper, that is a billion dollars worth of toilet paper. It's a lot of toilet paper. Kids don't really have discretion over how much toilet paper is used per bathroom. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Hey, Poshy. Hey, Sufi. Support comes from Quint. Oh, yeah. Poshy, you know me. I don't chase trends. Yeah. No, you don't look like you do. Huh. Let's walk that back. So what did that mean? Nothing, nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 00:41:28 But I am about stuff that fits right, feels good, stuff that lasts. That's why I like quints, Posh. Lightweight layers, high quality staples. It's part of my everyday essentials. Yeah, I'm still wearing this crew neck, cashmere, quince sweater that I have. It's what was what I just wore recently on the flight to and from Amsterdam because it gives me a very nice sort of layer.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It's not only is it like soft, cozy, perfect for a plane, but also if I go out to a nice dinner and it's cool at night, then I've got a nice sweater to wear. You know, it's just looking at their summer stuff. They've got this organic cotton stretch poplin shirt that just normally to get sort of a nice shirt like this would be about 120 bucks and you get it from Quince and it's like 30, maybe it's 20,
Starting point is 00:42:15 but it's just, it's the same stuff, but they cut out the middleman. Also, you know, it's the kind of stuff you actually wear on repeat. Do you think, Posh, and be honest, do you think I'm the kind of guy who likes to wear stuff on repeat? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah. So, like, you've known me now for 49 years. Yep. Off the top of your head, how many different shirts have you seen me wear? I mean, yeah. Four? I do think when we say that you wear things on repeat,
Starting point is 00:42:41 we should clarify that at some point between wearings, you might want to wash them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to tell you where that was going. say that you wear things on repeat, we should clarify that at some point between wearings you might want to wash them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to tell you where that was going. Which is not your, not Sufi policy, but I think that's good policy at some point. Yeah, that's a good policy. Okay, but either way, you know, quints you can wear them more over and over again because
Starting point is 00:42:57 they're so comfortable. So look, stick to the staples that last with elevated essentials from quints. Go to quints.com slash trips for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's q u i n c e dot com slash trips to get free shipping and 365 day returns quince.com slash trips. Hey, Bashi. Hey, Sufi. We just did a live show at Amsterdam thanks to Airbnb and it was a delightful show. I can't wait for everybody to hear it. Yeah, it was a great trip. It was truly was a family trip. We had three generations of Meyers there and it was so fun and the live show itself really stands out as a highlight for me on the trip and that
Starting point is 00:43:37 episode is going to come out on Thursday July 17th and we're really excited for you all to hear it. Multiple guests, the most guests we've ever had for a Family Trips podcast, which is exciting for us. Some you've heard before, some you'll be hearing for the first time. Some you know, and some you literally have never heard of, and yet you will never stop thinking about them. Also, you know, Ash and I, first father-son trip
Starting point is 00:44:01 we've ever taken together. We stayed in an Airbnb and had the most wonderful time. The best part was we, every morning we'd wake up and man, we were on the go. The entirety of that five days, we were on the go. And we also were dealing with the time difference. And so Ash and I would wake up and almost always had to be out the door in like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And it was so nice to just have a fridge with some yogurt, with some granola. I'd slop it all together in a big old bowl and I'd say, buddy, go to town, we got to get going. And it was just a delight. And it was so nice not to be, say, waiting for what I'm sure would be very delicious rim service, but oftentimes does not meet the urgency of the moment. Yeah. And then mom and dad and I did an Amsterdam experience. We took a tour, the urgency of the moment. Yeah, and then mom and dad and I did an Amsterdam experience. We took a tour, the history of Amsterdam through a beer glass,
Starting point is 00:44:49 and went to some just amazing bars, places that if you were looking for a handful of bars to go to on your own, you would not have put this collection together. Our lovely host James, with some interesting history, wonderful chats, and great beers. It was really nice and really fun and a new experience for me in a city that I know very well. Well, it was just fantastic. So a great amount of gratitude for Airbnb for helping support our incredible trip and even more importantly, what I believe is my favorite episode of the Family Trips podcast,
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Starting point is 00:45:39 Apply for Apple Card on your iPhone in minutes. Subject to credit approval, Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA, Salt Lake City Branch, terms and more at applecard.com. Here we go. Tell me, can you just give me like a personality sketch of your mom because like these are two very distinct places other than the fact that they both depended on
Starting point is 00:46:05 natural resources there's very little in common with these two places they're both pain in the ass to get to i think pain in the ass and like rich and natural resources yeah honestly more of the pain in the ass to get to the better i would say my mom is a very interesting woman. Single mom, raised four kids all on her own. And what, she's a real go-getter. She is like, she's very mysterious. I honestly don't even know much about her past. She worked in Mexico for 10 years. And all our godparents are Mexican.
Starting point is 00:46:43 So she has- And she's not Mexican. She's not Mexican. But she worked there for 10 years. And all our godparents are Mexican. So she has- And she's not Mexican. She's not Mexican. But she worked there for 10 years. And so like all her, and that was like in her 20s. So all her friends are Mexicans. And so we grew up going there a lot too. But she is just like, she's never tired. She's always like, she's never sleepy. Intense energy and I would say very ambitious lady. Gotcha. And not necessarily, like she would let us do anything,
Starting point is 00:47:16 like anything, like we're climbing on stuff. Other people's parents would yell at us before she yelled at us, you know what I mean? Gotcha, yep. And she would yell at other parents if they like scolded us, being like, I can take care of my kids. Meanwhile, we're like dangling on like all the treacherous. And what's the age gap between you and your oldest brother?
Starting point is 00:47:36 My oldest brother is seven years older than me. So she had four kids, like within seven years. Yeah. Single mom. I mean, I guess that's the only way to do it is to never be tired. Literally never be tired. Yeah, I think, I mean, the way she describes it is,
Starting point is 00:47:55 the energy kind of like expands, your energy levels expand. Do you feel this way? No. No? I know. Do you have kids too, Josh? I don't, but I don't see it expanding. You have three, Seth? I do, yeah. I do. They're the best, but I don't, yeah. As far as energy
Starting point is 00:48:17 expansion, that's not my reaction. I will say my wife is, she sounds more like your mom. Like she's sort of tireless and like loves, I think she gets a hit off giving her kids new experiences. So she's always like, let's go do this. We're here, let's go do this. And whereas I'm always like, they're tired. I think they want, and you know, and then you give them someplace new and cool
Starting point is 00:48:41 and they're thrilled. So. Yeah, exactly. That's kind of, it's kind of built into our DNA. Like my nephews now have adopted it. but then you get them someplace new and cool and they're thrilled. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of built into our DNA. Like my nephews now have adopted it, hence the Ford House. There was a tantrum yesterday morning, which meant we had to go find an adventure. Since your brother's nearby, is your mom,
Starting point is 00:48:59 as a grandmother, is she a very active grandmother? Oh yeah, extraordinarily active. How many grandkids does she have right now? She has three. My brother has a third daughter, but she's... My brother lived in Hong Kong, so she's in Hong Kong visiting. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:49:16 With my brother's wife's family. Oh my gosh. Is your mom, I imagine she's torn apart that you're in your childhood bedroom right now and she's not there. Oh, she's at hockey practice with my nephews right now. Okay. Oh, so she is in Michigan.
Starting point is 00:49:35 She's in Michigan. She's still in Michigan. I thought you were saying she's in Hong Kong while you're there. No, no, yeah, no. My niece, my brother's youngest daughter is in Hong Kong. Gotcha. That's a real, like, tell me you're in Michigan
Starting point is 00:49:47 without saying you're in Michigan, which is July hockey practice. July hockey practice. The ice rink is the coolest place you could possibly go. The air conditioning's working overtime. Did you guys grow up playing hockey? A little bit. I only played on ponds in New Hampshire. Well, that's as real as you can get, kinda.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Kind of, but then like the first time I ever played on a rink was we went to school in Chicago, and our fraternity is sort of a like rush thing, would rent out the ice, we would get like midnight ice, and we would go. And the first time I ever played on a rink, when the puck goes off the ice, we would get like midnight ice and we would go. And the first time I ever played on a rink, when the puck goes off the boards and doesn't go like down a little frozen stream or into a snowbank and just comes right back to you. It's like, oh, all that rest we used to get. So true. And sending like, you know, my buddy, Chad Rio's younger brother into the woods to go
Starting point is 00:50:44 get the puck. Like we just sit around on the ice and eat some snow. It's like, you know, my buddy Chad Rio's younger brother into the woods to go get the puck. Like, we just sit around on the ice and eat some snow. It's like, no, that puck's in play still and you're still going and it's exhausting. And you're gonna vomit after this. Yeah. You played a lot of hockey, yeah? I played a lot of hockey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:57 I played a lot of hockey. Yeah. I got, hey, check it out. Oh, yeah. Oh, look at that. Oh, yeah. Chase is showing us an incredible photo. By the way, impossible to tell if it's actually her
Starting point is 00:51:09 in the hockey uniform, but it is in her bed. We can verify that she picked it up in her bed, if this really is her bed. I prestaged this, yeah. It's a set. What does the little plaque say there on that? It says, number seven, Chase B. Wonders varsity girls hockey.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Love it. All right. But I was a state champion. Congrats. Really? Thank you. I mean, in Michigan, that says a lot. That says a lot. What sort of like, you know, I don't wanna just miss this state championship at all,
Starting point is 00:51:38 but like what level of school, were you a big school? I was a, we were a pretty big school. Like I would say honestly the state we eeked it out like by the skin by the skin of our teeth because gross point is the best at hockey in the state. And so we every year we would go up against growth point north and gross points out. But I will say I was not carrying the team on my back. We had a lot of Red Wings hockey players' daughters on our team. Helpful, helpful. So Red Wings would frequently come and like teach us,
Starting point is 00:52:13 give us a hockey practice. So now I'm speaking on behalf of the Myers brothers here who have never won a championship of any kind. Was that a seminal moment in your life? Do you remember when you won the championship? Was it a huge deal to you? Huge, huge deal. I'm very bad at that.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And also that you eked it out is better. It's so much better. We won like 6-1 in the final. It's like, no, no, no, you wanna ek it out. That's what- No, exactly. Yeah. You're the underdogs at that point. No, it is huge street cred.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Yeah. The social capital. Yes. It's like- I would give away, like of certain like professional milestones I've been lucky enough to hit, I'd trade like three of them away, two of one, like one thing in high school. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Yeah. Because like- Because it feels so big when you're in high school. Like it feels- Yeah. Yeah. And like I did not have a lot of social capital in high school but because I won that state championship, I was like king of the hill. Were you a theater kid at all at that point?
Starting point is 00:53:16 So controversially, I was a theater kid and the winter musical took place at the same time as hockey season. Got it. So the only kind of smudge on my hockey career was the fact that I would go miss hockey practice sometimes to go to the play practice. And all the hockey girls thought it was the lamest thing ever. Yeah. And all the theater kids were like what are you doing hanging out with those douchey hockey girls? Yeah, so funny cuz like now of course like no one is not impressed by the fact that you did both
Starting point is 00:53:53 But you forget that in high school every night Pick a lane pick pick a lane you can't do it all. No, I was like the lamest person on the hockey team on account of the fact that I was doing school. What musicals were you, did you have good roles in these musicals? Honestly, no.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I was in it for the love of the game. I was in it for the love of the game. I was chorus, I was an it for the love of the game. I was a chorus. I was an orphan in Annie. Yeah. But yeah, I frequently would be like, why am I giving up all the hockey glory just to be in the background?
Starting point is 00:54:38 Of you're never fully dressed without a smile. It's very funny, like to say you were an orphan in Annie. Yeah. Is that, you're clearly not Annie. Clearly not Annie. Oh, were you Annie? No. No.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I was one of the unnamed orphans. Close. Close, yeah. Yeah. But my life was hard too. Yeah. The life was hard for all the orphans. Really same origin story.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I could have gotten picked instead of Annie. Yeah. I just didn't have my hair. By the way, that's the real story is all the orphans don't get picked. Yeah. That's the tragedy. Josh and I in college, we went to college together, and I remember, do you remember we auditioned
Starting point is 00:55:10 for a play together? It must have been my senior year? Yeah. I don't know, might have been junior. Yeah, maybe my junior year, Josh's freshman year. We auditioned for a play called Beaterman and the Firebugs, was that right? And both got cast in the chorus. Okay. And then I said in the chorus. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:25 And then I said, I don't want to do it. Yeah. And I basically went, the director was like, you can't audition for a play and not do it. And I was like- Can't go to the callback and not do it, yeah. And I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do it. And he was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:39 this is going to reflect really badly on you. And I'm like, I think I'm just not going to do plays. I think I'm good. I think I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. The real burn was I had auditioned for a play. It was a female director.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I had auditioned for this play, Abingdon Square, and then this, like, Masters of Fine Arts grad student had seen my audition and stopped Seth and was like, hey, I saw your audition for Abingdon Square. You should audition for my play. And Seth's like, oh, I saw your audition for Abingdon Square. You should audition for my play. And Seth's like, oh, I didn't audition for that. You saw my brother. And she's like, oh my gosh, there's a part for twins
Starting point is 00:56:12 in my play. So you should audition. And Seth was like, hey, this woman approached me and like, maybe we should do this thing. And it was not a part for twins. It was a part for a chorus, a six person chorus that looked something alike. And when cast, we looked nothing alike. It was not a part for twins. It was a part for a chorus, a six-person chorus that looked something alike,
Starting point is 00:56:26 and when cast, we looked nothing alike. So Seth had sort of been brought in under false circumstances, as had I. Oh, my God. And there was a rule at Northwestern that said if you went to a callback, got cast, and didn't do it, you were blackballed for a year
Starting point is 00:56:43 and you couldn't do another play. And Seth was like, that was the first play I ever auditioned for. I'm looking for twin parts. If there's no twin part coming up. Yeah, it's not for me. I mean, Northwestern is a, that's a theater school. Like people take their productions very seriously. Yeah, like you could tell,
Starting point is 00:57:02 I don't know if it's this way at other campuses, having only, you know, gone to school and won. You could just tell the way a person walked down the street whether or not they were a theater major. Totally. By the way, not a negative, like just a real like confident stride, like very much owning themselves in a way that I'm jealous of to this day. Yeah. Did you do, so you never,
Starting point is 00:57:25 did you like play club hockey or anything at college? I did play club hockey. All right. I did play club hockey. And what was cool- You held on. I held on. You could, you could rent out the ice and like I would like skate around the stadium all by myself because I had keys to the rink.
Starting point is 00:57:43 It was crazy. Wow, that's the best. Yeah, but I also did to the rink. It was crazy. Wow. That's the best. Yeah. But I also did theater. I also did theater and I also got blackballed because I got on the main stage, which was like the big stage. And as a freshman, I was Irina in Chekhov's Three Sisters. Well done. Thank you. Thank you very much. I think I was like the fourth call. Like I think, you know, but I was so happy. I was over the moon. But I did the play. Review comes out in the Harvard Crimson and it says, Chase We Wonders is the nail in the coffin of this terrible play.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And it is a slam piece against my performance. Like I'm not even the lead. As this Rebecca Greenberg, remember her name. You'll always remember her name. Wrote a slam piece specifically targeting my performance. So- Wow, was she, it was a student newspaper that- Student newspaper.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So student tape, a student on student violence. Student on student violence. And this is like the hot take of like the 18 year old who's trying to get a full-time position on student violence. Student on student violence. And this is like the hot take of like the 18 year old who's trying to get a full time position on the newspaper. So needs a spin. I hate it and I also kind of love it. I love it. I love it because I'm like, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:56 it's one of the things you're like, everybody, you know, like you don't go to a school like that and hope that it's just kids gloves. You wanna, you know. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. As long as she, let me just say, as long as she genuinely believed you stunk. Exactly. Exactly. You know what I mean? You know what? That was freshman year, senior year.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I was in a section with her and I vowed myself that to go up and shake her hand. So I went as Rebecca Greenberg, Chase, we want your nail in the coffin. Great to meet you. And what was her reaction? She looked at me with so much fear. She looked at me with so much fear. She clearly remembered. So I like to think that she felt badly,
Starting point is 00:59:36 but honestly, I think she was right. I think I was no good in that play. Yeah. Well, it sounds like nobody was. It was already a bad production. Just for the badly. Nail in nobody was. It was already a bad production. Just for the better, you know? Nail in the coffin. It's already a coffin.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I had like a Arya Stark from Game of Thrones type list in my desk at SNL. Anytime anybody wrote something mean about SNL, like a reporter, I would write down their name. And I had this like list in my desk. And for the same, I think for the same mental reason of just remember who you're going to shake hands with. And I had the most wonderful thing happen, which is when I left SNL and I was like cleaning out my office, I came across the list and
Starting point is 01:00:15 I just had this, they dawned on me that it was the pettiest thing in the world. Have you ever encountered those people? You know what the craziest thing is some of them have, you know, like, because again, they weren't, it wasn't malicious. Right. They just at the time thought a thing I did was bad. And then later, because again, I don't think they think about it the same way. One of them wrote a lovely thing about, you know, the late night show. And I realized like, oh my God, thank God I hadn't gone up to this party, you know, in the interim between the bad thing and the good thing and been like, Hey, just wanted to say hi.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Look you in the eye and give you a firm handshake. Just literally going to my handshake coach. So when you- Meanwhile, like they probably don't even remember writing that. Of course not. No. It did seem like Rebecca remembered though. Rebecca recalls.
Starting point is 01:01:08 When you got, you said you got blackballed for a year, was it just because someone said you were bad in that play or did you then? No, I kind of blackballed myself to be honest. Yeah. I never went to the common casting again because I did have a lot of shame. But then I studied film and I kind of was like, I'm going behind the camera, I can't act.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yeah. So that's kind of when I chose my major of film for like screenwriting and directing. I was a film major at Northwestern for this. I was completely intimidated by the theater element. That's great. Yeah. I was like, I like this. It's a lot of people's origin stories. I think so Like give yourself time to develop without the bright lights of the flashing lights the people calling your name
Starting point is 01:01:54 Wait, did you were do would you act in any of your short films or anything? No, I didn't really oh, no, that's not true a little bit bit. A little bit. And then, but we, Josh and I both did the Northwestern improv show, and that was kind of our real origin story. Oh my God. Like to do the improv troupe. Yeah. Wow. What was that like? Was that like a badge of honor kind of or? Yeah, because it was a small. It was a cool show that would sort of cross over.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Like if you were doing, you know, the cherry orchard, it wasn't like your bros in the frat would want to come check it out. But if you were doing the improv show, kind of everyone from all different walks would come see it. And would you guys compete like inter scholastically? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I think, I mean, it was only a two year gap, but I think that was enough of a gap. Also, every time I left, like when I left high school and when I left college, like Josh, it was almost like he was waiting for me to leave before he dominated just out of deference to his older brother. Like the minute I left, I was like, you'll be all right, little guy. And he's like, student council president or leaving the musical. I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 01:03:07 So I was holding you back. You just didn't want to embarrass me. Just needed some space. Just needed to throw these around. That's how I felt about my older siblings. So what about, like, do you have, do you think you'll go on another big family trip soon? It seems like you will, there's no reason to stop traveling with your mom.
Starting point is 01:03:24 No, there's never any reason. I will say now that I'm working, like I was just filming, I know what you did last summer in Australia. And I kind of like casually said to my mom, like, hey, everyone should come visit me on set. Yeah. And everyone came to visit me for multiple days. everyone came to visit me for multiple days. We're on a very tight shooting schedule and everyone is like... it's funny have you guys seen this the studio by chance? Yes, of course. So my family is basically like Matt Remenick's characters they're all being like cordoned off into their separate tent. Yeah. And there's like a PA devoted to my family. By the end of these five days of them visiting set,
Starting point is 01:04:09 my brother was doing the clapper. They were fully immersed. There were like violent scenes happening. And my mom is like, oh, to the other actors, you did such a good job as like they're trying to get in the head space of like being like tortured. So they also came to visit the studio set.
Starting point is 01:04:27 So honestly, my, my jobs have kind of turned into these like family vacations. Ike has, Ike and Catherine have met my whole family. Catherine, of course. Catherine's a Northwestern connection as well. Exactly. There you go. So give a shout out to our friend there. Shout out to our friend Catherine.
Starting point is 01:04:47 First of all, I know what you did last summer, like original, I'm very excited about this because the original is like, I don't know, like pinnacle horror movie going years for me. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm very excited about this. 1997. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:01 That was, I mean, it's very exciting. I mean, it's exciting, especially because the original cast is back, Jennifer LePuitt and Freddie Prinze Jr. The original J.Lo. The original J.Lo. Our J.Lo. Our J.Lo. The people's J.Lo. And she, they are amazing. And I think there have been like countless attempts to revitalize this franchise. And this is kind of the only one that they felt comfortable kind of signing on to.
Starting point is 01:05:30 And so it really does a really good job at weaving in the OG, as well as kind of like bringing this new cast in. And it was just, they're all just such cool people. Freddie Prinze Jr. brought his whole family to Australia. So we're hanging out with like, San Michelle Yeller and their kids. They're like the ultimate Hollywood couple. They're so nice.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah. And so that part was like, was very special. Can we also shout out, we're both big fans of Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. Oh! It's a fantastic movie. That's awesome. I was at, having breakfast with my mother,
Starting point is 01:06:08 we were in New York for Thanksgiving, and was having breakfast in the hotel, and sitting next to me was a woman who was speaking with a Dutch accent, and I had a mirror sort of on the wall, and I used to date a Dutch girl who was very good friends with Helene Rijn who directed Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. And I sort of like, I had to Google her very
Starting point is 01:06:31 quickly to see like a picture because I hadn't seen her in 10 years or something like that. And I just turned to her, I was like, are you Helene Rijn? And she was like, oh, Josh, Jesus Christus. And she like just wrapped the movie. She was like, yeah, I'm not acting anymore I just like directed my first film for a 24 and I was like, oh great and I sort of didn't think anything about it I was like, you know good for you And then my wife and I watched bodies bodies bodies at home and at the end like her name comes up and I was like Oh, yeah, like she told me she's like, yeah made this movie bodies bodies bodies So casual it was so fun. That's so funny. Yeah. And there's so many. I know this origin story. Ike and Seth, you guys were in a theater
Starting point is 01:07:18 troupe, right? Yeah, in Amsterdam. Yeah, that's where we were all there. We were just back. We just saw Ike in Amsterdam at a reunion. Oh my God, that's so crazy. I, this last year at the Golden Globes was flying back to New York and I'm in the lounge waiting for my flight and the flight gets canceled. And again, same, like almost identical story to Josh. There's a woman sitting like two seats away from me
Starting point is 01:07:42 and our flight gets canceled and she comes over and she's like, yeah, our flight is canceled, I think. And I was like, Helena? She's like, yeah, I didn't wanna bother you. Literally I hadn't seen her in 25 years. I'm like, you didn't wanna bother me. Oh my God. Like we're in a lounge waiting for a canceled flight.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Helena, gotta say hi. Yeah, but yeah, very good. Wait, was she at this reunion too? She wasn't at the reunion. But Ike brought all three of his daughters to Amsterdam. And I brought my oldest, who's nine. And I think he's just like, he couldn't figure out which one of Ike's daughters to fall in love with. They're amazing.
Starting point is 01:08:22 They're so precocious and hilarious. Yeah. They're amazing. They're so precocious and hilarious. Yeah. But yeah, Halina Man made Bodies, Bodies, Bodies and then wrote and directed Baby Doll last year, which is great. But yeah. She's the best. With Bodies, Bodies, Bodies and then, I mean, I haven't seen the new, I know you did last
Starting point is 01:08:38 summer, but I've seen the trailer and it looks like there's so many people that you won't mind when they get killed. Totally. Yep. That's the trailer and it looks like there's so many people that you won't mind when they get killed. Totally. Yep, that's the joy of it. Yeah, it really is. No, that's part of the- Yeah, perfect movie for the summer.
Starting point is 01:08:54 It's a good summer movie. It's fast. It goes. And Jennifer Gaylen Robinson, the director, is so smart and funny and is really tapped in to Gen Z as well. You know, similar to Helena. I think, yeah, there she, Helena can do no wrong. Helena is so funny in that when it, you know, she had first come to the United States when
Starting point is 01:09:16 she started making Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. She's like, in Amsterdam, I'm a big movie star, but here no one recognizes me. It's so weird. It's true. And then just before we go, also just shout out to the studio. It's fantastic. And oh, my God. Thank you. You're wonderful.
Starting point is 01:09:37 And you guys are just such a fantastic ensemble. And it's so fun to watch. We got to get you on season two. I know. Although I can't. The problem is, like, I famously haven't made it work in Hollywood. Kind of like a New York. If you guys do an episode of New York. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:55 And we'll call you in. You could also not play yourself. Most people have found that in the end it's better to just let me play myself. Yeah. All right. Before we like, this has been fantastic. It's so great to meet you. I also feel like, you know, we might have you back in a couple of years
Starting point is 01:10:13 cause I know that there are trips. There are trips that we haven't touched on. There are trips up our sleeve. I feel like we went from like, yeah, we went, we only talked about your northernmost and southernmost trips. Right, right, right. We gotta go east and west. I like that the three things we talked about your northernmost and southernmost trip. Right, right, right. We gotta go east and west. I like that the three things we talked about was the farthest point in Alaska,
Starting point is 01:10:30 the island farthest away, and a museum five minutes from your house. Yeah, exactly. Gotta spread the love. Alright, Josh is gonna ask you some questions here. Okay. Alright, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Only pick one? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Educational. Yeah, that tracks. We were gonna call you out if you said something. Yeah. Your main takeaway is like the history of phosphate mining. Yeah, exactly. But that's relaxing for you. Zero relaxing for you.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Zero relaxing is done. I should say zero relaxing is done on our vacations. What is your favorite means of transportation? Oh, boat. Boat, all right. If you take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family,
Starting point is 01:11:22 what family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh my God. It's gotta be Clark, National Lampoon. Great. European vacation. Yeah, that whole family. The Griswolds. The Griswolds.
Starting point is 01:11:34 If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Are we surviving or attempting to survive on this desert island? It's however you want to spend the time. Okay. Okay. I would probably take my nephew, my 11 year old nephew Drake, because I think he would be very resourceful. And also he would try to turn it into something very fun. Got it. Great. Love it, love that attitude. You're from, did you say Bloomfield Township is the-
Starting point is 01:12:09 Bloomfield Township. Would you recommend Bloomfield Township as a vacation destination? Listen, yes. If you have similar travel patterns to my family, like some unconventional, less visited areas, you got Detroit, you got the Edison, sorry, you got the Edsel Ford house right next door.
Starting point is 01:12:37 We have Coney Dogs, which are, you guys know about Coney Dogs? I feel like I should, but I don't. Tell us about Coney Dogs. But I also feel like they're probably from Coney Island? I feel like I should, but I don't. Tell us about the Coney dogs. But I also feel like they're probably from Coney Island, New York. Well, I actually don't know the etymology of Coney, but basically every diner here is called a Coney Island.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I don't really understand it. So the Coney dog is a hot dog slathered in chili. So it's basically every type of meat and cheese. So that's kind of the delicacy of Metroid and cheese. So that's kind of the delicacy. Yeah. Metro Detroit area. And that's bringing in the tourists. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Exactly. At a huge scale. Well, great. Well, that sounds good. And then Seth has our final questions. Have you been, it is, I'm reading about Coney dogs. It is invented by immigrants from Greece in the region of Macedonia.
Starting point is 01:13:23 And they did Coney Island is definitely where they began. But it also, it found their way to Michigan. So I think. Weird. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? I've been to the Grand Canyon, yes. Was it worth it? Honestly, I was 15, 12, or like 13 or something,
Starting point is 01:13:46 and I did not appreciate the scale of the Grand Canyon. I would say- I have a theory though. I feel like you're not into anything that other people are at. That is correct. Yeah. It's too crowded.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Too many people go there. I think you're like, this is so normie. I feel like you were like, this is where Yeah, exactly. the flattest, boring as people go. I think everyone should see the Grand Canyon. Every American should see the Grand Canyon.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I think a hack, flying over the Grand Canyon. LA to New York, you fly over it every time, and it's beautiful. And it's really, it's cool to see it from that scope. All right. Well, I appreciate your honesty. Thank you. I think this is, I mean, this is a,
Starting point is 01:14:28 what a gut punch for the Grand Canyon that somebody who's gone to Barrow, Alaska is like, eh. It was dark the whole time. Literally like, oh, there's this game where you put a ring on a string and try to throw it in a hole. I like that, That's more fun. Super freezing, dark ball time.
Starting point is 01:14:48 But you can fend polar bears off with a stick. You are your A-plus, Chase. What a great. Thank you guys. Thank you for being so receptive. You know, something. We heard good things. We heard good things. Oh, my God. And again, you know, because Ike is, you know, we go. Yeah. We heard good things. We heard good things. Oh my God. Literally, likewise. And again, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:06 because Ike is, you know, prone to exaggeration, but he told us you were the best in this time. Oh my God. He was right on the money, so. Oh, he speaks so highly of both of you guys. So this was very exciting. Well, enjoy the rest of your time at home, yeah. You too.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I'll talk to you soon. All right, thanks. Bye. Bye. Bye. Chase's Fam Preferred unusual trip to take If it's hard to get there It climbs to the top of their list If other people say where The sweet wonders cannot resist
Starting point is 01:16:03 Well if it takes 21 hours just to get to them, sign them up! Sweet Wonders going to Nauru! Sweet Wonders going to Nauru! Sweet Wonders going to Nauru! The least visited country! You might say, so why would you go there? A wealthy GDP And it's shaped just like the donor
Starting point is 01:16:31 They got phosphate mines Courtesy of all the bird shit And they got no crime For feral dogs you get aim with Well, there's not a whole lot of stuff there for you to do Chase did it all She said she came in in Daru She knows a lot about Daru
Starting point is 01:16:59 She knows a lot about Daru About Nauru Would really hurt commerce If someone imposed an embargo But wouldn't be much worse Than when they put on Leonardo Well, Chase makes the case It's worth going to But I don't know If I'll ever go to Nauru
Starting point is 01:17:41 If I will go to Nauru Got NASA Ferraris That's what they do on Nauru, I'd like some Ferraris. That's what they do on Nauru. Only one if I should try this stew in Nauru. Might be unusual. So say refuse of Nauru, but it is beautiful. So bring your crew to Nauru. It is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:18:00 It's pretty cool on Nauru. It is so beautiful. The sky is blue on Nauru It is so beautiful The sky is blue over Nauru

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