Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - DAVID DUCHOVNY Shook Hands with a Shark

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

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This episode is brought to you by Airbnb. Here we go. Hi Pachi. Hi Zuffi. You might notice we have a guest here. Yeah, I see him. Do you know him? All right, he's taking my headphones.

Yeah. It's hard to miss in that pink shirt. What's up, King of Summer? Well, I just came home from camp. Yeah, what'd you do at camp today? This is Ash, for the record, my nephew, my eldest nephew. I made this. What is it?

It's a sword. It's a sword made out of popsicle sticks? You hold it here and then you fight people. I fought somebody and we had three lives, I won. That's really exciting, because when you kids go to camp, you want them to learn life skills like swords. Yeah, it's a very impressive sword. Are you careful to not hit people in the face

when you're fighting with the sword? So you can't hit people in legal body parts. You can hit them in legal body parts. What are legal body parts? Like legs, belly, not the head, nowhere on the head, and then back. Okay, yeah, this all sounds very technical. I hope I'm not gonna get in trouble for saying this,

but I used to do a thing where I fought my buddy Ike, Ash, and our rules were no heads, no nuts, no knees. Seems like a good policy, because you don't wanna hit your friend in the nuts. That's the same with me, and no butts. Maybe butt, I don't know. Yeah. I feel like getting hit in the butt,

it's a good place to get hit, because it doesn't really hurt. Yeah, pretty soft. Yeah, because butts are squishy. All right, well, that's really helpful. That's good insight. I'm gonna ask you to leave now. Will you go and close the door?

Get your squishy butt out of here. Good to see you. I got an update from out in the world, Seth. What close the door? Get your squishy butt out of here. Good to see you. I got an update from out in the world, Seth. What's the update? We did a news piece for WMUR, Oh yeah. Our local New Hampshire, I think it was New Hampshire Chronicle maybe.

Yeah. Erin, right? That's her name. Erin Foo, is that right? Yeah. So we did that piece and it was nominated for an arts and entertainment news Emmy in the 47th Boston, New England Emmys.

Uh-huh. And we lost. Thank you. It's a good update. We lost. Yeah. We lost to anti-graffiti vigilantes, which I watched. It was a story about people had been putting graffiti

on these rocks on the Rhode Island coast and this local artist, Holly Flagg, which is a name that's very much like Bill Wall. Yeah. But Holly Flagg took it upon herself to go out and sort of paint the rocks to look like they did before there was paint on them. So she's painting over graffiti,

and then she's got a bunch of other local artists and other volunteers. And if people muck up those beautiful rocks, they go out and they paint over it. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think where you're going is you and I are gonna spray paint on some rocks. We were robbed. Family trips forever.

It was a very good story. It was a good story. They had drone shots of the Rhode Island coast. And I will say they would have been very dumb if there were drone shots in the Rhode Island coast. And I will say, they would have been very dumb if there were drone shots in the piece about us and mom and dad in our podcast. Yeah, but it was an honor to be nominated. An honor to be nominated.

We also just went back to New Hampshire, Pashi. We did. It was thanks to Nissan, the new Nissan Rock Creek Pathfinder. I think they call it the Pathfinder Rock Creek, but she reaches on. And they got us in one of those to go on a drive to surprise mom and dad. Yeah, they said, where did you want to, like, where could you guys take a road trip? And the best place I could think of with our schedules and with just our lives in general

was let's go surprise mom and dad. Really the surprise was on mom. We had to loop dad in. Yeah, we surprised mom. It was really fantastic. And we, I can't remember the last time we've been in a car together for two hours, especially when I thought it was gonna be a one hour drive.

Shout out to Boston traffic. But really wonderful to be in a car with you. Yeah. We were listening, we did some podcast recording, but when we weren't podcast recording, we were listening to WZLX, which was a classic rock station we listened to as kids, still jamming out the hot tunes.

Yeah. Classic rock feels like childhood, feels like New England to me. Yeah. I mean, I'm still, it's not like I don't ever listen to classic rock anymore. like feels like childhood, feels like New England to me. I mean, I'm still, I'm not, it's not like I don't ever listen to Classic Rock anymore. I certainly do, but it really, it hit, it hit well. Yeah, summertime, summertime drive, 93 North, listening to Classic Rock on WZLX, really enjoyed it.

And the other thing, I mean, we'll talk more about it, but we went to dinner at a restaurant that mom and dad eat at. It's the only restaurant I think they eat at. It might be. It's called the Coppador. It's wonderful. Yeah, there are two Coppadors, to my knowledge,

in New Hampshire. There's I think one in Nashua, but there's one in Bedford. And it's packed. It's packed. Dad made the rez because it was a surprise for mom. Yeah. And so they take us to the back room and dad's not with us because he's talking to somebody.

So they sit us down. No surprise there. No surprise there. Mom immediately is like, well, you know, I didn't make the rez because we're sitting in the back room. Immediately she's upset about it. Yeah.

And I say to mom, don't say anything. Just don't say anything. It's fine. Don't say you're upset we're in the back room. How long do you think she made it? Until like the second dad sat down, he hadn't put his napkin on his lap. I feel like she gave it a little more time than that,

but then she couldn't resist. Like she just had to do it. She had to be like, what's the matter with that back room? Yeah. But it was also, it was like our one dinner we were gonna have together. And in the main room, there was live music,

because again, the copper door's popping off. Rocking and popping. Packed and I don't know if our conversation would have been disrupted by the live music. I agree, I think in the end, the back room is better and I just wanna give dad his props. Yeah. Also mom made it seem as though they,

it wasn't that dad wasn't smart enough to ask, she was treating it like she's sort of a local celebrity. They would never give, they would never throw that sort of insult at her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then this is, we're mentioning a sponsor that's not even a sponsor for this week's podcast. But we were going, we then went over to have some drinks

with some of my college buddies, Bubba and Hendu. Yeah. And as we got out of the car, you told me I had to put on deodorant. Yeah, or change a shirt. When we got, when we were looking at the car, I almost was like, maybe we need a different car because this car doesn't because this car smells bad.

Yeah. But I was like, I don't know, maybe it's like where the car is parked, maybe it's the garage. Yeah. And turns out it was you all. It was not Nissan related, is that what you're getting at? Nope.

Not at all. The Nissan, you're off the hook as far as the odor went. Yeah, so I suggested maybe you put deodorant on. You had, you'd come straight from the airport and your bags were still in the car. And why couldn't you put deodorant on? They didn't have any. Right.

You had some. I sure did. I had my Mando. Mando? You have a former Family Trips sponsor. So you had your Mando. Mando? You have a former Family Trips sponsor. So you had your Mando. Maybe Future after this. Future, yeah, I mean,

because it really came in handy. You also, you said, you smell terrible. And I said, you know what I think it's from? And I was setting up. My joke was gonna be, I don't bathe or shower. But I go, you know what I think it's from? And you said, your armpits. And that made mom laugh really hard.

Just getting burned. Yeah, just getting burned. I mean, I don't know if you mind these hygiene burns if they're gonna keep coming. Well, the only thing I'll say is, we live a real organic lifestyle over the Myers family. Your Myers family or the one that you and I come from? Mine.

Yeah, all right. So the assorted deodorant we use is what I like to call wildly ineffective. Well, I'll also say in our time at home, you were there for a night. I don't know that you got in that shower. It's right next to my bedroom. I feel like it was. Definitely not. But I also got, I also left at 4.45 in the morning.

Yeah, but you've flown in that day. You could have taken a shower before bed. Yeah, I guess so. Or the next morning. I also saw, I saw no evidence of a toothbrush in our shared bathroom. Why? I, I try to keep that. I look pretty on the down low. I saw no evidence of you in that bathroom.

Like there were no- I'll tell you this. Mom did not know I was coming, but I've slept in my childhood bed. I can't believe I slept in it. It's like sleeping on a concrete block and the pillow, I feel it's like the hardest pillow. Oh yeah, there was some discussion about that, that bed wasn't made up and that dad should have made it up.

But he told mom that he assumed you would have, you know, grabbed a pillow or a blanket from somewhere else. Sure, the guy who doesn't bring a toothbrush is gonna. But you wouldn't take the, I don't know, 20 seconds to go to the linen closet? I sleep best when I act as though I've been thrown in a jail cell. And it's my job to just make the best of things.

Do you even know that that's a linen closet upstairs, that little, the door next to our bathroom that would have, I don't know. I don't think you're allowed to go in there. I always thought that's where we kept the family secrets. You spent a few more days. I came home to the kids. Yeah.

Did you have a good trip with mom and dad? I did, it was great. Yeah, we played a little golf. We were getting, we played a little golf. We were getting, we were tired. We'd get home and we were like 8.30. It felt like it was time to shut it down. And I wanted to see some friends, but every night when we'd get home,

it just felt like, yeah, we were passing out on the couch. I get it. Yeah, I get it. But yeah, beautiful, some beautiful days, some good rain one night that was really fun. I want to give you a compliment. You have maybe my, speaking of Burns, since that's obviously the theme of this,

the listener episode song, one of the all time best. If you have not listened, first of all, I highly recommend if anyone skips over the listener episodes, you've made a grand mistake. They're really truly wonderful stories from the likes of you. Yeah. Maybe you're sore cause you didn't have a good listener

story, you didn't send one in, but listen to it. And Josh, it's one of the best burns on me. Yeah, you hadn't listened to it and we were together. And I was like, hey, it had come out. And I was like, if you listened to that song? And it was very, you were like looking at your phone and you're like, oh, no, no, no, I haven't listened yet. And then you called the other day

and you were in the car alone after dropping Ash off at camp. And I was like, you should listen to that. And then you called me back angry that you'd been burned yet again. A real unfair. I was not aware. When you listen to it, just know it. I feel as though my rights were violated.

Well, tell it to the judge. We've got a, I mean, this guy's a great storyteller. He's a great talk show guest. He's David Coveney. He has a Jaws story. It's not Jaws, but you'll know when he's talking about Jaws, there are a few times where a guest tells a story that's so good that I tell mom and dad before they listen.

Right. And this, that rose to this level. Yeah. I'm gonna say Mr. Duchovny does it better justice. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I don't feel like I spoil it. Cause it's gonna be so much better when he does it better justice. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I don't feel like I spoil it. Cause it's going to be so much better when he does it.

Yeah. All right, listen to him. I have no idea what's going to happen between me talking and him talking. I think we're just going to roll right into it. Family trips with the mice and brothers. Family trips with the Myers Brothers. Family trips with the Myers Brothers. Here we go.

Did that work? Did that work? Look at this guy. This guy has his... You can tell he has his own podcast because of how nice his microphone is. How are you? I'm good, thanks. You guys aren't even in the same room, brothers?

No, we're on different coasts. We're by coastal. I don't like that. They wouldn't allow us. They said it was too big a power base if we were on the same coast. They had to split us up. This is day drinking with Seth, right?

Oh my gosh, a martini glass. Have I got it wrong? A margarita glass with a salted rim. Based on the hour it is, you better be in like, I don't know, Western Europe? I'm in Greece. That should be okay. Oh, you're in Greece, that is okay.

So lovely to see you, David. Nice to see you too. You're a New York kid. I am. I grew up on, well, I don't know why I'm gonna get really specific. They took me home from the hospital. I was on 12th and 5th, and then I lived until I was 11

on 18th and 3rd, and then I lived until I went away to college on 11th and 2nd. Oh my gosh. There you go. So you were basically having, my kids are growing up like two blocks from where you started. Really? Yeah, we're downtown.

I have downtown kids. My brother went to ****. Yeah, it's a really good school now. Back then it was an easier school. if you know what I'm saying. Is that how your brother got in? That's how my brother got in. None of them are easy now. No schools in New York are easy now.

When you say it was easier, was it easy in terms of the subject matter or the teachers were more easygoing? I think, to be honest, I think partly it came from originally the Quaker philosophy, which wasn't, not that it wasn't academic, but it just wasn't the kind of, I mean, I went to collegiate after I went to, I went to downtown community school, which was a hippie school that was founded by Pete Seeger and some other people. And it was a wonderful school. There were no classrooms. It was just a huge, you had

learning centers. I think it was my favorite time to be at school. You just gravitated to wherever you wanted to learn. And the kids learned at a great pace because they were going after the things that they were interested in, which is really the way to do it, I think, but hard to do on a big institutional framework. But the Quakers, you know, they don't sign oaths. They're not, they don't have the, I guess, I'm going to generalize now, but they don't have that Puritan work ethic.

And it was more like a sense of community unless, you know, you gotta get A's to get into the Ivies or whatever the other New York schools were gonna be. Yeah. They don't care what the state capitals are. No, no, no. They don't care about it. It's wherever you want it to be, man.

They don't care about law division. Yeah, they can't go. How was, did you, because Josh and I grew up in the suburbs, got city kids, it's fascinating to watch it happen through their eyes. Did you love New York City as a kid or did you love it more in reflection? I mean, to be honest, Seth, I don't know how you felt when you were a kid, but I never but I never fantasized about being anywhere else. It was just that was my reality. And even in that case, my reality was like a 10 block radius. I lived on 92nd and Central Park West and raised my kids there, but I never went past like 42nd

Street when I was a kid, never, never until I was in high school and I had rich friends because I was going to a Tony private school. So I pretty much stayed between 11th Street and 23rd Street for 12, 15 years. You wouldn't go to Central Park? You didn't have like... No, we went to Central Park, we were playing softball or something, but I didn't go, as a 10 year old, I wasn't like, I don't have to go and join nature. I just wanted to go and play in the park. You know, my mom would give me two bucks,

I put in my sock and it wasn't mugger money. People have called that mugger money, but it was like sandwich money. I get a sandwich and a soda and I'd be out all day. You know, I'd be out all day playing in the park alone. Not alone. It's funny even as an adult, because now I've lived in New York City for you know almost

25 years but I've always lived downtown. I feel like I still only have like a 10 block radius of knowledge. When friends of mine visit the city and say what should we do? I know I hate that question. It's heartbreaking because I sort of like I can answer better for a city I recently visited than the one I live in. I am so much the one I live in. I am so much the, remember that movie,

The Accidental Tourist, it was also a book, and it was basically about how to make every place in the world like your room. So wherever you go, you just feel like you're not experiencing anything new or unsettling. And I'm a little like that, I'm a little like that. Even though I do go all over the world, I'm hard, it's hard to get me out to explore.

I love doing it when I do it, but I guess growing up in the city, I felt like I saw everything and was exposed to everything at the youngest ages. With your sandwich money, did you have a place that you went to? Was it a bodega on the corner or was it a? Yeah, it was, well, there was Benny's

who made a great egg cream. And that was on 21st and 2nd. And then there was one on like 19th and 1st. And I can't remember the name of it, but they had like a ham and Swiss that I was pretty attached to. Oh, very good. Did you reach a place where you were known by the bodega that when you came in?

You know, that's the kind of thing about New York that feels fairly new to me. It's like nobody knew my fucking name anywhere. You know, it's like you're just a fucking kid, you know? There was a place called the Open Pantry, which was on 12th Street and 2nd Avenue. And I was just talking about this the other day, because I'm in Greece and the owners were Greek. And I remember they would extend us credit,

and that was really cool. Because my mom sometimes didn't have money, not that we had zero money, but she, you know, there were times in the month where she had more cash, but they would extend us credit for a halva or whatever. We were jonesing for it at that stage. And how would they note your credit? Would they just sort of like remember?

I can't remember. It's like that kid, there's that kid again. He's got a nice mom. He's got a nice mom. So everybody loved my mom, so I was okay. I had a summer. I interned in New York one summer in college and I started going to the place I interned. I would stop at the, you know,

one of those carts in the morning and I would get a coffee and a pumpernickel bagel with cream cheese. And about halfway through the summer, the guy would have it ready for me, which was the most wonderful thing. I was the first time I felt like a New Yorker. And then when my internship was coming to an end,

I remember the last day I told him, I said, I'm not gonna, I won't be here on Monday. And he looked at me like I was the craziest person. Like he would care. Yeah, like... Like I needed to know that. I was like, I thought, oh, I thought we had this very special thing. And he's like, no, I just, I do this.

I got better at this. You mean nothing. No. My, we had, we didn't have a doorman, but we had an elevator man. We had one of the old, you know, those manual elevators. And yeah, I don't know that I, it probably took me 10 years to know the elevator man's name and shit like that. And I just, I was pretty unconscious in general. But my buddy, my best friend for many, many years,

he's an actor now as well. And he lived on the Upper West Side and he was a doorman in his own building. That was his summer job. He got a doorman job in his own building. He had a uniform. Great gig. And the best part of it, he got fired for being late. Great. And the best part of it, he got fired for being late. Right. He could not get there in time. Eight floors down, it was just too long. Well, could he blame the elevator man?

Yeah. We just lost our hand controlled elevator. They put in new elevators in our building and it was heartbreaking. It was so cool. Kind of guy. And we could also, it was basically like a rotation, and there were some guys who just never figured it out, and they'd always stop like a full foot too high,

or like pull up way too short, and so there were other, and even our kids could learn, like, uh-oh. Might fall through the cracks today. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Family Trips is supported by Airbnb. Hey, Bashe. Yes, Sufi.

You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers schedule comes out and we just immediately, you, me, mom, dad, start trying to find our weekend. Yeah, we look in that calendar and then, yeah, we sort of throw our marker down. And then once we throw our marker down, our next stop is Airbnb because we, last year, famously all stayed together under one roof in a wonderful home in Pittsburgh. Years before, we'd done hotels,

and it just was such a nicer way to do it. Yeah, it's nice to wake up, come downstairs, make a pot of coffee, and then have mom and dad roll out and have that coffee ready, have some bagels, just be able to sit around and have breakfast and feel almost like it would feel if we were in our own home. And you know what we had that was really special?

We had a porch swing. Uh-huh. We took photos in a porch swing. Yeah. Can I say something? Every one of them worse than the last. really special. We had a porch swing. Uh huh. We took photos in a porch swing. Yeah. Can I say something? Every one of them worse than the last. And I will say porch swings are wonderful. They take worse photos than you think. I think porch swings are good to take photos of children.

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Apple CarPlay is a trademark of Apple Inc. That's what it sounds like when you read to your kids. Yeah, I just want to get to bed. So you're the middle, older brother, younger sister? That's correct. Close in age? My brother's four years older, my sister is six years younger, so there's a bit of a gap. There is a bit of a gap. So did she go to, when she went to school, did she go to your school, your brother's

school, or a completely different one? She went to Grace Church like I did, and then my mother actually started teaching there. She started subbing there when I was there, and then she got a full-time job, which she held for 30 years and became a legendary and beloved teacher on the Lower East Side. And when I walk your neighborhood now, Seth, when I walk around your neighborhood, Seth, I see people will come up to me and they don't necessarily, they know who I am, but they don't necessarily like my work. They'll come up to me and say, I, you know, my daughter, my son, my granddaughter, my grandson, my father,

my mother, whatever, was taught by your mom. And it's pretty special. We have, believe it or not, we have the exact same thing with our mom, who is a middle school French teacher. Really? And when we are back in our hometown, that is what people at the grocery store want to come up and tell us. But isn't that the best thing ever?

It's the best thing in the world. Yeah. What did your mom teach? Well, she taught kids how to read. She taught first grade, second grade, and she sang the vowel song, which went like this. Ah, eh, ee, oh, oh. Ah, eh, ee, oh, oh. Now we say our vowels.

It was a little like that. So I share that with you probably because this has happened. Once again, David has shown us a martini glass. It's a margarita glass. It's an empty, salted margarita glass. It is in Greece. It's just a prop. Did your mother, when she substituted,

that's how you say that. Yes, yes. The answer is yes. You were her student. I had to get thrown out of that class because I had to maintain my cred. I did, I had to misbehave and she would actually toss me. She tossed me in the hallway.

Do you recall what you might've done to misbehave? You know, just talking, just talking shit, whatever, but I had to, you know. And you know, it's like a prison shit, whatever. But I had to. It's like a prison. It's very much like a prison. And you just gotta maintain.

Were you the kind of family that traveled? I'm gonna guess that maybe you were... No, we were not the kind of family that traveled. But we did have... I was lucky enough that my grandmother, Julia, which was not her name, I'm not gonna tell you her real name, she wouldn't want to tell you.

Julia, Julia. Julia was a classy name, she thought it was classy, so that was her name. She had a, she worked in the garment district in New York, but she had a house in Fire Island. I don't know if you guys know Fire Island. I've never been, that's another thing that I've never taken advantage of.

Well, that's what you should say when people say, what should we do in New York? Say, go to Fire Island. Look up David's grandmother. It's not Julia. We don't know her name. I know it's not Julia. It's something that sounds worse than Julia.

If you mean it Julia, it's not her. She called herself Julia Duco. Oh, wow. Sometimes. Sometimes other names. But she had a house there and we used to go there. That was our family summer home. And it was really an amazing opportunity for me to get out of the city. Otherwise, I would have been stuck. The summer in the city is tough. It's hot.

Did you go for the whole summer? Yeah, I went for the whole summer. And it was just this idea, I had this very kind of split existence when I was a kid because I was firmly a city boy. And then I was, and in Fire Island, there are no cars. So it's like you're Huck Finn. And it was just an amazing gift for us. I've had it explained for me, but for people who have heard the name but don't quite know exactly how small it is, it's tiny, right? Yeah, it's not even really an island. I think it's a sandbar. You know, it doesn't really have much soil. There's a couple parts of it that have soil, sunken forest, that's called, they have some pine trees, but it's mostly just sand. It's like a spit.

I don't know how long it is. I make it up, but it's maybe a few miles long. And the width of it is in the hundreds of yards. It's not, you know, you can see from one end to the other. And no cars, and now they have cars, like people live there all year round. It does seem like pretty bold to, in this day and age with global warming, to build a home on a sandy spit

with a sunken forest nearby. Well, they've always said, even back when I was a kid, they said, Fire Island is going to sink. You know, nobody should buy here. Nobody should ever buy here. Nobody should ever buy here. And now it's mandatory that you build a house on stilts. So it's basically like Venice or Amsterdam.

You know, the writing is on the wall, and it's just a matter of time, but you know. It's still too good to pass up. Why not fiddle while Rome burns? You know how human nature goes. Let's do it. So when was the first time you were on an airplane? I think when I was 10, we went, we went,

my mother's from Scotland and we went to visit Scotland because my parents were thinking of moving there. My father, we were going to move to London and I was very upset because I didn't like the sports. You know, I didn't like, I didn't know soccer or cricket or anything, and it was gonna ruin my life because sports was my life at that point. But you didn't know those two sports,

so did you know other sports that you didn't like? Other sports that I didn't like? No, I like, I guess I could have played tennis. I like tennis, I like basketball and baseball. Those were my passions. And I was a very unimaginative child. And so we got on a plane and we went to Scotland. And I remember that vacation, we visited Loch Ness

and my dad had me pee in the loch because he wanted me and Nessie, the Loch Ness monster, to have like a bit of a thing. He wanted Nessie. He wanted the rest of my life. He was like, we're going to anger this thing and you're going to pee in there and you're just going to show her who's boss. So that was my dad. So my brother and I both peed in Loch Ness, I remember that. And I remember I was taking golfing by my uncle and I'd never golfed. And I remember cheating. I remember cheating my first round of golf as a 10 year old. I remember hitting the ball way out somewhere and just hacking at it, you know, five or 10 times

and then coming out of the woods and saying, yeah, I came out in like two, it was just two. Yeah, I mean, if you've never golfed before, to be taken golfing in Scotland is like, it's gonna be a disastrous outing. So I almost feel like. But what's wrong with me that I had to cheat? I'm still ashamed. What's wrong with me that I had to cheat? I'm still ashamed.

Did you? I think the adult who said how many strokes did it take you, maybe we should turn the tables on that. Now, could you enjoy that Scotland trip or the whole time were you worried that your family was going to move to the UK? I was worried. I enjoyed the lemon bonbons.

They had this kind of candy that was a lemony thing and powdered sugar, I remember worried. I enjoyed the lemon bonbons. They had this kind of candy that was a lemony thing and powdered sugar. I remember that. You know, I have sense memories from it and meeting my in-laws, which was interesting and everything. But yeah, I don't remember so long ago. And I don't even remember that first sense of being on a plane. I don't remember that this was a special moment or scary moment or whatever. We went to Loch Ness, what about eight years ago, Posh?

Yeah, thereabouts. Yeah, it's really an impressive scam because it's a beautiful lake. And we took the, and by the way, if they want to call soccer football, I'm going to call Alaka Lake. I'm not going to do it there. But we, you know, you just kind of go out in the middle

and go out and I just remember there was the narrator on the whole thing. He's like, and then if you look out to the right box where they say, and it was just like this sort of haunting and sort of everybody there. I thought the funniest thing was there were a few tourists who sort of had their camera like pointed down the whole time just in case. Well, it's a very deep lock, you know.

Yeah, it's a very deep. Nessie could be down there. But what I remember also from that is we went up into the highlands. What I remember also from that is we went up into the highlands and my uncle Mac, again, he worked at a company called Clyde Fasteners, which Clyde is the river Clyde in Scotland, and they made these huge screws for ships. They were an engineering firm that made those huge rivets, basically, that keep ships together, and that was his job. And he had a lot of wealthy friends, I guess.

And we went up into the Hebrides, where this guy named Hamish had an island. He just owned an island called Arid, which apparently Robert Louis Stevenson wrote kidnapped about because at low tide you could walk to the mainland, but at high tide you could drown trying to cross. So it had these big tides. And I was turning 10, and my brother, my fucking brother, he wound me up that I was going, that Hamish had all these little islands everywhere.

And he wound me up that I was gonna get an island for my birthday. And it didn't matter that it wasn't gonna be an island that you could build anything on. But at 10 years old, think about like how empowered you feel. I'm a landowner, you owner, what can I say? I may be in sixth grade, but I own a small piece of land.

They're going to double, triple your line of credit at the diner at that point. At the candy store. So, yeah, I got 10 shillings. I didn't get an island. I didn't get anything. Oh, 10 shillings, yeah. 10 shillings. I didn't get an island. I didn't get anything. 10 shillings, yeah. Yeah, 10 shillings. And then we went up into the highlands where my mother had friends, a shepherd, and I was involved. And I'm going to tell two stories around this. One is mine and the others I just learned, which I think you'll... I can tell it as if it's mine, but

it's not. I won't tell it as if it's mine, but it's not. I won't tell it as if it's mine, because it may not be true. I hope it is true. Okay, great. So I went and it was sheep shearing season, and they had these huge burlap sacks hanging from the rafters of the barn, you know, I'd say 20, 30 feet long burlap sack. And they'd shear the sheep and they'd toss the fleece up into the burlap sack. And they'd shear the sheep and they'd toss the fleece up into the burlap sack. And I was in the sack. I was in the sack. And these fleeces would just come down, raining down over my head. And I have such a sense memory of this. And I

was, my job was to stamp them down so they could fit as many fleeces into this huge burlap sack as they could. But can you imagine how filthy that was? Oh my gosh. I have no memory of that. I will say, I'm glad you said how filthy they are because I think we, as children's books, the depiction of sheep is deeply unfair to how filthy a sheep actually is.

They never talk about the matted shit. Yeah, they're not. I almost feel like they're so mad that they know you're gonna make it into a sweater for you. That they're constantly like, I'm gonna roll in shit. You'll have to, it's gonna be so hard to clean this. It's very possible. And I remember one of the sheep, as she probably was, was running from the barn, having been shorn, she kind of clipped her hoof on the ridge of the sliding door, and she jumped a little bit because it startled

her. And then I got a lesson in sheep because sure enough, every sheep after that did the same jump, even though they never clipped their foot. They did the exact same things, exact same thing as she did. Oh, funny. They really are sheep. They are sheep. Well, it's a survival thing. You know, it's like nobody stands out. Nobody stands out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. Blend in. Yeah, for predators. So here's the other part of the story that didn't happen to me,

but I wish it did. The first AD on this show that I'm doing here in Greece is Scottish, and he said, he also was sent to the farm at around the same age. And the shepherd or the farmer said to him, it's lambing, is it lambing time? It's something they have to, they have to neuter the lambs. And so, he was like, he's 10, he doesn't really know what that means. But he says, you'll be behind the lamb and you grab it and you lift it up and you hold the chest and I'm going to take care of business. And I'm gonna give him the teeth. And my friend goes, what do you mean? He says, well, let's do it. So we're doing it the old fashioned way. So he holds the lamb and the fucking guy, he bites the balls. He gives him his teeth. It's his teeth.

Oh my God, the barber does it? He bites the balls off of the lamb. That's how they did it. Wow, or that's not how they do it and that's how that farmer, that one farmer told your buddy, he's like, yeah, this is kind of the old school way. I really don't want those guys to be mad at me.

Yeah, no, that's a lie. Let's not anger that. I do feel like if be mad at me. Yeah, no, that's a yeah. Let's not anger that. That's so sad. It is, but I do feel like if you were in a Scottish pub and a fight started, a guy might say, I've been biting the balls off. You don't wanna fuck with me. I've been biting the balls off sheep all day.

You also wanna maybe point out to that guy that even the cavemen had like tools. Right? Yeah, right. Seth, if a Scottish man ever says to you, I'm gonna give you the teeth, just run. Just don't, don't, don't, don't involve yourself in that. Yeah, they say never, don't, that's not, but now what would that mean? Like there's no good answer.

For a Scottish guy saying, I'm gonna give you the teeth. So that did not happen to me. But the other, not so much vacation memories, but all my memories from that kind of time are from Fire Island. I was a lifeguard out there, which was the best job I ever had from the age of 14 to 18. I was a lifeguard on the ocean. And I was a lifeguard in 1976, which was the year that Jaws came out. So I was a lifeguard in the actual place,

nearby where Jaws was supposedly happening. Do you feel like at that point, the amount of respect people had for lifeguards, like you became the new first responders because of JAWS. Like all of a sudden you were like a fireman status. What made you think that we were respected at all? Well, I feel like before JAWS, no one had any respect for you.

But then like post JAWS, it was like, these guys, these are the last, you know. No, we had no respect. And it was tough because the community that we were in, they tried to discourage what they called day trippers. So they only wanted people in the community to use the town. So there were no public restrooms.

You weren't allowed to eat on the beach. And so we had to enforce these ridiculous rules. So we'd have to like, you can't eat on the beach. Also there was no topless bathing. And as the youngest guard, they would always send me at 14 to go have to tell a woman to put her top back on. And that was awful, just awful, awful. Just like fighting every instinct you have.

Just can't look. And I remember this one woman had scallop shells on her nipples. Yeah. And she knew I was mortified, so she kept on showing me, you know, look, I'm covered up, covered up. Oh, she was trying to use scallop shells as a loophole.

A legal loophole. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing joining the scallop shells to make it a... Sure. That was your idea. Legally they have to be connected by something. For it to be a bathing suit. Hold up.

What's that miss? My boss is telling me, no, they have to be connected. They have to be connected. When you were a lifeguard, were you sort of like alone on a chair or were there a group of lifeguards that would? Yeah, alone on a chair, alone on a chair. A man, a man boy, alone on a chair.

How, like so, you know, I know from lifeguards, it seems like the best place in the world to just like sit and read a book, but obviously you can't read a book. Seth. Of course not. We're on duty. You're on duty. We are on duty. Was it a job that was deeply boring or was it a job that was great because you were outside? It was a great

job because I got $12 a day, first of all, let's just say,'t know, I felt like, yeah, you could actually help somebody, you know, if it came to that. I feel like it always had a status for the people your age. Like, I remember when I was 16, a friend of mine being a lifeguard at 16, I thought that was cooler than whatever I was doing in the summer, delivering pizzas. Yeah. Well, yeah, you had to be civil service certified and you were kind of joining the adult workforce. But there was the summer of Jaws, nobody went in the water.

It was really astounding what an effect that movie had on people going in the water still, I think, to this day. But there was an incident where, you know, we're always looking with binoculars, especially that summer, looking for fins. Mostly we just see ducks, you know. It's like, oh, what's this? It's a duck. And there was one time there was a fin fairly close in the area, and you don't even know what kind of shark it is, but you get them out.

And we're whistling and we're getting everybody out, and there's one woman who is not coming out. And my brother, he goes, Dave, Dave, go get her. I'm like, why does Dave have to go get her? I'm like, I'm 14, I don't want to die. Send the older guard, he's lived more. Was your brother a guard as well? Yeah, he was like, Dave, Dave. I knew when my brother called me Dave,

nothing good was gonna happen. What would he call you otherwise? He wouldn't say my name. He just, it was just Dave. So, and then did you, do you remember having to go out and retrieve? Absolutely. And what was her issue? She just didn't want to come in?

Oh, well, so I get out to about my knees. I've got my whistle, my metal whistle, and I'm blowing it, I'm blowing it. She's not responding. And then I get out to about my waist and she's not responding. And I have to out to about my waist and she's not responding. And I have to go actually, you know, leave my feet and go out about 20 yards or whatever past the breakers and say, ma'am, there's a shark in the area.

You got to come in. And she starts yelling at me immediately that how could I leave her out here with a shark? And I'm like, let's get in. And she was a real New Yorker. I'm going to have to stay back from the mic here. But she said, she kept saying this, as I'm like, let's get in, let's get in, let's get in. She's like, you motherfucker, I was shaking hands with a fucking shark. I was shaking hands with a fucking shark. And you left me out there shaking hands with a fucking shark. And I'm 14. And I'm going, ma'am, everybody else came out. We were whistling. I was shaking hands with a fucking shark. And you left me out there shaking hands with a fucking shark. And I'm 14 and I'm going, ma'am, we've been, everybody else came out. We were whistling.

I was shaking hands with a fucking shark. I was like, ma'am, I don't think they have hands. I don't think they have hands. I was shaking hands with a fucking shark. It was wonderful. God, that's the best. That is, what a perfect New Yorker take on it. Shaking hands with a fucking shark.

Yeah. It's beautiful. Did you have a uniform? Was it a, did the Fire Island? Yeah, red trunks, just red trunks. You know, you want to see us coming. You want to see us coming. Short shorts, I'm guessing.

Short shorts in 76? No, they weren't that short. They certainly weren't the Speedos that you see on the Australian guys. You know, we were more guys. We were more modest. We were more modest. We were children. Was it sort of like a summer beach hang with the opposite sex in the summer? It's like at what age would you just go, where would you hang with people your age?

In the town. It was called, you'd go to town. That's what you'd actually say, going to town. And then you'd just hang out. You'd just hang out. There was nothing to do. You'd play pinball maybe, but there was no drinking. And maybe there was some weed at some point

when you were a little older, but it was just hanging out in town with your guy friends and your girlfriends. And it was mostly New York City kids? New York City, Long Island. Yeah, mostly that. Did you make friends there that you didn't know in the city that you would keep summer to summer? Yeah.

And it was weird, you kept them almost like caps in capsules, like you had your winter people and you had your summer people. My first girlfriend lived in Forest Hills and it might as well have been the moon because we hung out during the summer and I don't think I ever even called her. And then I just assumed we'd pick up again, you know? Yeah, sure. She had different plans.

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for $20 off. Download Game Time today. Last minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed. Here to go. So Julia is your grandmother. Did she, she didn't live full time on Fire Island. It was about a summer. Where did she live in the city?

Where did your grandmother live? Murray Hill, Murray Hill. Was she the kind of grandmother that you guys would spend time with during the week? No, she did not want to be known as having grandchildren. She was Julia Duco, so. Exactly. She doesn't know these two guys.

She had a persona. Exactly. She doesn't know these Dukovity kids. She had a persona. Exactly. You have no connection to me. It might have been okay if I was her son. That might have been palatable to her in terms of like people thinking about her age. Do you think was she doing pretty good for herself socially in the city as a woman who was not believed to have grandchildren? -"My grandfather, Moisha, he wrote for the Yiddish newspapers,

the forward." Actually, that's how they pronounce it, but it's the forward. But if you see it written, it's F-O-R-V-E-R-T. -"That's not helping the accent any." -"Yeah, the accent is actually in the writing. Yeah. And he wrote serialized, he wrote like soap opera serialized stories for that paper.

And my dad said, and he was also a theater critic. And in fact, I went to see Elie Wiesel, the famous Nobel Prize winning Holocaust survivor. And I was sitting in the theater, 92nd Street Y, and this young man came up to me and he said, I'm Elie Wiesel's son, and he knew your grandfather, and he'd like to say hi to you after the talk, which was on the book of Job. And I was like, oh, I'd love to meet Elie. And then sure enough, I went back and he was like, yes, I knew your grandfather.

He was a very charming, very nice man. Because I'd never, my grandfather died when I was months old. I was barely on the planet, so I never met him that I remember. But he wrote this serialized, very, I think melodramatic, Yiddish theater kind of soap opera. And my dad said people used to call the house wanting to know what's going to happen. And he said Moishe didn't know because he basically wrote it

on the subway on the way to work. Yeah. Seth was like, yeah, that's how I do my monologue. Exactly. Well, I have a staff of people that write it on the subway. Where did Moisha immigrate from? Ukraine. Oh, wow.

Look at that. He's from Kiev. And Julia, not her real name, was from Warsaw, from Poland. And they met at the workers' camp, which was kind of a hotbed of young communist thought and philosophy in Jersey in the 20s, I guess, in the teens, 20s, and they I guess, in the teens, twenties, and they had my father. But Moisha died, as I said, and Sticker was the man I knew as my grandfather, because Sticker is the one who was with Julia when I was a kid. Gotcha.

His name was Meier Sticker, but we only knew him as Sticker. And that's all he said was, Sticker. Hey, Sticker. And that's all he said was, Shticker. Hey, Shticker. And Shticker was really great. He was really kind to us kids. And he always had a big front pocket full of change. And I was into pinball. So he'd always like, he's one of those old Jews who had a pocket full of coins.

Do you remember those old Jews? Yes. Where are they now? Well, it's with change. I think the problem is no one has changed. Ever since COVID, like nobody's here. Yeah, they have a pocket full of Venmo. So Julia once said to me, you know, when Moisha died, I could have had any man in New York. That's Julia for you, right? She said that to me. I'm probably five when she's saying this to me.

That's Julia for you, right? She said that to me. I'm probably five when she's saying this to me. And she said, but I knew Shtickr. And, but, you know, Shtickr was best friends with Moishe. That was the thing. I knew Shtickr. So I took Shtickr in and she was like, but he didn't touch me for six years.

We see he was afraid that the ghost of Moishe would strangle him in his sleep. They say, they say like, wait, it's like sick at six years you're safe. Cause they feel like at that point, if the ghost hasn't done anything. Or the ghost of your best friend. That would be a great, that would be a great Jewish tradition.

Give it six years. So, we're actually, our last name is Myers because we had a Meyer first name. Oh, you had a Meyer. Yeah, but on the coming through of a, it wasn't Ellis Island, but it was one of those, the feeters. What was, have you done the Finding Your Roots? Yeah, I did that. I did the Finding Your Roots? Yeah, I did that, I did the Finding Your Roots.

It was like, basically they didn't, it would have been, what, Trakianski? It would have been a Lithuanian town name. Trakianski or Trakanovič, something. Trakianski, yeah, so, but Meyers is the winner that way. Shtickers, I mean, you can't write a better name than Shticker. Meyers Shticker.

Shticker, he was an Austrian Jew, and he was a poet. And he translated The Wasteland into Yiddish. Wow. Can you imagine? He translated The Old Man and the Sea into Yiddish. The Hemp. Where did your Jewish father meet your Scottish mother? I'll get to that, but can I do my Wasteland Yiddish joke?

Please. I mean, I'm just worried a lot of our guests have done one, so I just hope it's not a bump. You know, I know wasteland jokes, you know, everybody's got one, but I'm just gonna throw mine out. So famously, it begins, April is the cruelest month, and it begins, April is the cruelest month, breeding dried tubers out of the dead land. But, and yet I should read something like this, April is the cruelest month, and May is not so good either. It's a really good Wasteland joke.

It's one of the best Wasteland jokes. Classic, classic sticker. Classic T.S TS Eliot riff. Come on. Even TS Eliot liked that one and he famously didn't have a good sense of humor about the wasteland. And did not like Jews either. There you go. Yeah.

Scottish accent on your mother? No, she's kind of neutral. Okay. Kind of, maybe that's why I don't't have a really strong New York accent, although people from Manhattan generally don't have the famous New York accent. So no, she was kind of neutral. But she had some phrases and things like that that were obviously Scottish. She said like, I'd Nicken with her, I don't know, or I can, I know, or you know, sweet bugger all meant nothing.

Or you know, what'd you get mom? Sweet bugger all, sweet bugger all. Everything was sweet bugger all. It's very Scottish kind of like, life is like, you're gonna get sweet bugger all. You know, and it's a good attitude to have because anything else you get is just a win. Yeah, was your father, would you say, an optimistic fella?

Oh, no, no, no. He wasn't like a pessimist, but he was, what was he? He must have been optimistic because his entire life, he wanted to be a novelist, but he had a family and he had to support that. He had to work kind of a nine to five life. But he died at 76, but at 75 he published his first novel. He published a novel. At 75 he published a novel that was reviewed well in the New York Times and bless him.

He said he was a novelist and he was. Was he so, was it something, could you tell how proud he was of having gotten that done? Absolutely. Absolutely. He had written other things. When we were kids, he would write actually short political satire things that would bring in some bucks. He wrote The Wisdom of Spirit to Agnew, which was a compilation of Agnew quotes, almost like if you were to make The Wisdom of Donald J. Trump and just... Yeah, I know that. I feel like those books are probably... I bet that was probably more

unique of a thing then. Right, right. He wrote On with the Wind, a biography of Martha Mitchell, who was married to the attorney general. And she was famously kind of loose-lipped. He wrote the Establishment Dictionary, which was fake derivations of words in the establishment. He wrote a play that was on Broadway for a couple days, which was not a funny play, but it was the trial of Lee Harvey Oswald. So if Oswald had lived, it was his trial. But this was 1967. It was only four years after the assassination. And, you know, people did not want to see Kennedy's stuff, I think, at that point.

Right. Or at least they didn't want to see my father's play. It's funny. I mean, I would also allow him to be like, yeah, it was bad timing. You know, we get to get in there. But he always said, he said, you were a very astute critic from the beginning because he said, I came to see the play. And it was two acts. And the first act, the actor playing Oswald, I believe, is Mary Stuart Masterson's father.

I think his name is Bat Masterson, or I think it's a long line of Mastersons who have been actors. Anyway, this was a Masterson and he was playing Oswald and Ralph Waite who was in the Waltons, he was the dad on the Waltons, he was playing either the defense attorney or the prosecuting attorney but Oswald sits on stage for the, he doesn't speak a word for the entire first act, which is probably over an hour long. And my dad said to me, what did you think about the play? What did you think about the play? And I was seven. And I said, how does Oswald not have to pee? So I was riveted. Was it important to you to raise your kids in New York City?

Because I would imagine LA would have probably made more sense. Yeah. Well, we were in LA and it was really... At some point, we just started thinking about trying New York and then we just kind of, we got there and we stayed. And then I actually got divorced while I was in New York and therefore I had to stay in New York to, I wanted to be with my kids. So I had never really wanted to move back to New York.

I mean, I love New York, but I've spent enough time there in my life. And I, excuse me, I like being out in LA. I like being in a different part of the world after a point. Well, I will say that raising kids in New York from the ages of maybe 10 to 16 is kind of great. Just because they get, you know, they can be independent.

Like 10 to 16 in LA, they're just, they're in the back seat of the car all the time. But in New York, you know, at 10 or 11 or 12, you're okay with your kid kind of being out there in the city alone. And it's, that's, I don't think you can put a, you know, a judgment on that. I think it's great for kids to be able to just do their own thing. And then of course, then there was the pandemic. So, and there was, that got screwed up.

But that's over now. That's over now. Yeah. You, were you, would you go to, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. You, were you, would you go to, because this year I brought my kids who are eight and six, I brought my eight year old to a Rangers game,

my six year old to a Knicks game. And it is so exciting to have something downtown in a city that is easy to get kids to. When you were a kid, were you going to different New York sports events live? No, I wasn't. It just wasn't like part of what people were doing around me.

I was aware that Madison Square Garden was within two or three miles of my house, my apartment. I remember seeing Phil Jackson, you know, riding his bike My garden was within two or three miles of my house, my apartment. I remember seeing Phil Jackson riding his bike to the game. This is, it was a smaller world. It really is. I remember somebody telling me they had Dave Cowens drive them in a cab in Boston,

because they had to have a job after, you know, up until maybe what late 70s maybe they really they weren't making, you know, the stories about baseball players doing real estate, you know, you see Mickey Mantle doing those old Carvel commercials and stuff like that. Like, what did he get? Like 500 bucks. Yeah, and a cake, two cakes. It was worth it. And they're so drunk. There's a, If you ever get a chance to look it up, Whitey Ford and Mickey Mantle doing a Carvel commercial,

and they are fucking wasted. It's the best. So no, I never went to games. I mean, I'm sure I did. I think I went to Met Games because I clipped coupons off of the Dairy Lee Milk cartons. And if you clipped, I believe the number was 7 million. Coupons. You could get the worst seat at the stadium.

Would you have gone to that alone or with friends or with one of your siblings? I don't know. Yeah. I don't remember, but I do remember catching Rusty Stubbs' foul ball. Oh, I never caught a foul ball. Me either.

LeBron d'Orange. Yeah. Yeah, I caught it on the rebound. I was way up in the mezzanine and it hit off like a stanchion above me. And I got on the rebound. I can still remember that. How long do you think you saved it as a,

like, priceless artifact before it finally got lost? Yeah. I don't remember ever seeing it again, to be honest. I'm sure I had it for a while. It is a thing. You catch it and you think it's great, and then nobody cares. You know what I mean?

It's only a famous ball for you. Well, the amazing thing is catching it at the game. That's the amazing thing. It's like, all of a sudden you're like part of the game, you know? And it's that aspect of it. Yeah, cause everyone's looking at you all of a sudden. Like there's a game and then all of a sudden all the focus.

You don't want to be the guy that bobbles it or steals it from another child or whatever. Yeah. But if you've cut out 7 million things, You don't want to be the guy that bobbles it or steals it from another child or whatever. Yeah, but if you've cut out seven million things, then maybe you steal it from a kid. I just... You're like, what you've gone through to get here? Don't know how much milk I drank. Did you, when you started traveling, how old, your kids are close in age, yes? They're about three years apart.

Did they travel well together? Oh yeah, yeah, they were great. And my son, he loves fishing, so we'd often go down to the Caribbean and he just wanted a big, he wanted a big game fish, because what we get in the Northeaster, like striped bass or stuff like that, he wanted the big game fish. And I would always try, and I don't like fishing,

I don't necessarily like being on little boats, and I would try, we'd hire the boat, and man, I would get so fucking seasick. And I was just like, please, please catch a fish. Well, yeah, I mean, he wanted that fish. Did he ever get it? He was like fucking quint and jaws. He still loves fishing, he'll fly fish.

I mean, he's actually, you know, he knows what he's doing out there. I don't think he's gotten the billfish. That's what he wanted, the billfish, which is like a marlin or a swordfish or something. Have you gone fly fishing? I haven't, but Taya, my ex does, and she does with my son, and they love it.

They love it. It's not for me, but. Yeah, not for me either. Yeah. What is wrong with us? What's wrong with us? It seems like it should be something that I like, but I just, I really didn't.

I can't, being, I can't be still, and I can hike and like let my mind wander. My mind cannot wander if I'm still. I just feel like I'm very aware of the fact that I'm in one place and I don't like it. Right. David, this has been a fantastic conversation. And I'm very excited. I want to say again, Seth, uh, I'm sorry I can't see you

when I'm coming to New York this time, but, uh, next time. And I want to send you the movie. I want you to see it. I think you'll love it. I'm very excited. As Red Sox fans, I'm very excited. I'm a little upset that someone from New York made a film about Red Sox fans,

and we'll talk about that next time I see you in person. Reverse the Curse, correct? Yes, Reverse the Curse. It was based on my novel Bucky Fucking Dent, and the algorithm doesn't like asterisks or curses, so we had to... I mean, it's a great title for a book, and it's a good title for a movie if you can't do that.

If it wants to have a life and not be buried by the algorithm. But Seth, still doing great work, still loving A Closer Look and all that. Thank you, David. We do, before you go real quick, Josh is gonna ask you our speed round questions. All right, here we go.

You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Adventurous. What's your favorite means of transportation? Train, plane, automobile, boat, bike, walking, et cetera? I like a car. Okay.

Automobile. If you could take a family vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you take a family vacation with? Oh, man. The Freud's. I'd like to go on a vacation with the Freud's. Sigmund and company?

Sigmund and Anna and, you know, all the Lucian. Just a chill group of people. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Can they be alive or dead? Or they have to be alive? Let me be clear, they're not going to be dead on the island. I'm not asking for a dead person to be on the island.

Very smart to ask. Usually we burn people right after we say it. So it can be dead or alive, I'd like to be with my dad. Great. From New York City, would you recommend New York City as a vacation destination for a family? Not really. Would you, Seth?

Yeah, but I think I would. I would, and then they'd say, what do we do? And I'd be like, I don't know, look elsewhere. Just stay in your hotel room and look out the window. It'll be fine. And Seth has our final questions. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? Yes, I have.

I just love that, like, when you are a New Yorker and people ask you what to do, you tell them to do all these things that you've never done. Oh, yeah. Well, there's so many things that having kids forces you to... I just went, I chaperoned a field trip to the Central Park Zoo, and 100% the first time I've walked in there. You know what I mean? Kidding.

I love that zoo. I love that zoo. It's great, but I wasn't like, you, but I wasn't like single 32 being like, gonna go to that little zoo. And I've walked through it like probably 10 to 15 times in my life. Yeah, you can walk through it without paying. Yeah, you can get through it.

It's kind of a stomach. And I don't live in New York, so yeah. I'll leave you with one last story. The New York story was when we did move, my son was probably five and I was going to take him to the Empire State Building and I was excited, you know, because I don't think I'd been ever. So he was dead set against it. He was like pissed, he was crying, he was pissed. I was like, what the, you know, it's like, we're just going to the first step,

and we're just like, relax, and we're in the cab, and he's like howling, howling, I don't wanna go, I don't wanna go. And I was like, what is wrong with you? We're just going to a building, just going up high, and he's like, I don't wanna go to the vampire state building. And. Well, he's very, that was a very reasonable reaction. Now that you hear his logic.

Absolutely, I was like, dude. Yeah. I'll get you on that. King Kong will beat up all those vampires and we'll be fine. I am, you said yes. And my last thing is, is the Grand Canyon worth it? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, I think so. I didn't know where you're gonna land on that, You said yes and my last thing is, is the Grand Canyon worth it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think so. I didn't know where you're gonna land on that, but we're gonna put you in the yes column. Yeah, I think so. What would you say? I've never been and I'm not interested in going.

I have no interest, yeah. Oh, I get that. I think if you find yourself near it, I would say go. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like- That would be my advice. That would lot would happen. I feel like- That would be my advice.

That would be my advice. Not to like shit on the American Southwest, but like, I don't think I'm going to be near it. Your wife's from New Mexico. Yeah, I just feel like if I'm near it, something's gone wrong. Thank you, David. Enjoy Greece, and I'll see you soon. Yeah, man.

Good to see you always. Nice to meet you. Thank you so much. Over in Scotland, peeing on Nessie, getting his own island. Climbing to the Big Sac, David, tamping down the fleeces. World was full of dirt and grass, and also feces that's pooed, those nasty sheep. That's why they get the teeth. Little bit older to Fire Island Hegogo courtesy of his grandma aka, Julia Duko 14 year old life start tellin'

women put their boobs away a fin pops out of the water one woman beyond the waves and they do what to do Swam out to her rescue That faithful woman she had something to say You lift me up there shaking hands with a fucking shark. Just like that.

You motherfuck, I was shaking hands with a fucking shark. Fucking shark. Thanks again to Nissan for sponsoring this episode. Learn more at NissanUSA.com.