Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - FAMILY TRIPS: Live! From On Air Fest 2026

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

This week on the pod, Seth and Josh record live from Brooklyn at On Air Fest! Through a New York snowstorm they still made it to the podcast festival where they chatted in front of a live audience about Seth’s recent trip to London, a family ski trip to Montana, and their kids’ growing arcade obsession. Seth also shares stories from Milan, including attending the women’s gold medal hockey game and being mistaken for Hugh Grant.They also bring out a very special surprise guest, McKenzie Rollins, AKA Josh’s Wife, who shares stories about meeting the family in Cape Cod and Amsterdam, a Thanksgiving interrupted by a family medical emergency, biking mishaps abroad, and the family’s unique “language.” Plus, McKenzie reflects on her childhood travels, including a Disney-to-Key West road trip and bringing home a pet cockatiel. Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 DeleteMeGet 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://joindeleteme.com/trips and use promo code TRIPS at checkout. BluelandCelebrate Earth Month and make the switch today! Get 15% off your first order by going to https://Blueland.com/TRIPS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode of the podcast is brought to you by Netflix's Big Mistakes. Hey, Pashi. Hey, Sufi. Dan Levy, the Emmy Award-winning creator, actor, writer, comedian, did a fantastic show. What are the great shows about families in the last 10 year? Shitt's Creek. Shitz Creek, amazing. Now he's got a new family saga with high-stakes comedy and crime caper.

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We would be very, I don't think we could pull off a heist, Posh. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Do you think mom and dad could pull off a heist? I would love to see them try. I mean, I feel like, you know when the cops catch them? Yeah. when they are bickering before they even get to the heist.

When they're in a crawl space, they're like, yeah, oh my God, mom and dad, in a crawl space, no, thank you. Catch Dan Levy and big mistakes on April 9th, only on Netflix. Hey, everybody, solo intro this week. Seth is not around. I imagine he is on spring break with his family, but to be perfectly honest, when we aren't on a podcast together,

we don't talk that much. So I don't know where he is. But I hope he's somewhere great. Real quick, sort of updates for what I've been doing. I went to Ohio this last weekend, which is a beautiful little town in California. It's about an hour and a half from Los Angeles. And it was my dear friend, Molly Kloss's 50th birthday. The last time I was in Ohio was for Molly Kloss's 40th birthday.

And the last time I was at Molloy, Miley Claus's birthday for her 40th was the day that my nephew Ash was born. So Ash Myers has turned 10, which is amazing. I sent him a gift. He called to thank me for it. I'm just kidding. He didn't call to say thanks because he's 10. And that's not apparently what children do. But I hope he likes it. really hope you like it. Ohio is great. It is, it's so charming.

Although I will say, you know, my buddy Devin and I went to the Ohio Valley Inn, which is a very sort of she-she, lovely hotel with these sprawling grounds

and they have a golf course. So we went to go play golf there. It ain't cheap. And look, I know that golf as a thing is kind of a dushy thing in general. Malcolm Gladwell has a full podcast

where he talks about how golf courses shouldn't exist. And there's a lot of tax loopholes, specifically in Los Angeles, that have been exploited. And I'm with Mr. Gladwell on all that. But I do enjoy golfing. And because it was a weekend, you know, it's a vacation. My buddy Devin and I decided to spend a little money

and go to this golf course. And on the third hole, we realized that we had two fivesomes in front of us. And if you know golf, it's classically played in a foursome. And when there's five people playing, it just slows everything down. And when there's two fivesomes, it really slows things down. So I called the pro shop and I said, hey, do you guys allow fivesomes? And they said, no, we don't. And I said, well, I've got a foursome, a fivesome on three and another one on four.

And they said, all right, we'll send a marshal out to break them up. And I said, thank you very much. And I got to the ninth hole and they still hadn't broken them up. And I went into the pro shop. And I said, well, I still got two fivesomes in front of me. What's the deal? And he said, well, I think they're members. They sent someone out.

And I think they're probably just members. And so I told the gentleman in the pro shop that either it's a rule or it's not a rule. And I was very disappointed in him and the golf course. So I said my piece. And then the fivesome right in front of us had the gall to tell me and Devin, sorry, guys, there's a fivesome in front of us. But they were a fivesome. Anyhow. So take that, oh, high valley.

And I am launching my complaint on the Family Trips podcast. And I hope you get what's coming to you. But then we stayed at this place, the Roblar Hotel, which was just lovely. We had a day of games in the park, in Sarsati Park, I want to say, brought out all these lawn games. We did some classic sack races, three-legged races, egg on a spoon. Maldi had this game where you had to put on, you had to roll doubles with two dice. And if you hit doubles, you were at a table, a picnic table with a lot of people. So we were like 20 people and 20 people.

If you rolled doubles, you had to put on a scarf. a winter hat, two oven mitts, and you had a knife and fork, and on a baking sheet, you had a chocolate bar, and you had to cut the chocolate bar holding the with the oven mitts in your hand, using the silverware, and eat the chocolate as fast as you could. While you were getting all that gear on and trying to eat the chocolate, the rest of your team was trying to roll doubles. If someone rolled doubles, you had to take that stuff off as fast as you could. The game made no sense to me before it started, but once it started, it was fantastic and really highly, highly recommend. She used to play it as a child, and the goal was just, there weren't two teams.

The goal was just like, you want to eat chocolate. So that was great. I love a game day. And yeah, just a wonderful weekend with some of my friends who are like, family to me. So happy birthday, Molly. Again, happy birthday, Ash. This episode that you're about to hear was recorded live in Brooklyn. Seth and I were there for the on-air fest, which we've done for the last three years. Scott Newman hosts that festival. He's had us out there. So thank you so much, Scott. There was a huge snowstorm just before we did this and a lot of the talent, which we sort of talk about in this episode was unable to make it. We had a few guests that were maybe going to join us and they were also unable to join us because of the snow. And so we had to go to the

bullpen and we called my wife, the wonderful and talented McKenzie Rollins to the stage who thought she might be on this podcast at some point. She has some unique insights into the Myers family. but she is an equestrian. She's not a stage performer. She's a performer when she, you know, is doing dressage or show jumping or cross country at an event. But she's not typically on stage speaking. So she was a little throne that her first time on the podcast was going to be in front of about 100 plus people in a ballroom in a wonderful hotel and Brooklyn. but she stepped up to the plate, and we were lucky to have her.

And, yeah, we had a great time at this event, and then a great time in Brooklyn in February. And, yeah, so enjoy everybody. And Seth, we'll be back next week. Family chips with the mice brothers in chips. You know what? I'm just going to take advantage right off the bat of this being a visual medium to say there's not an empty seat in the house.

It's early, it's early. Somebody called a fire marshal. But it's early. It's early, it's cold, and it's a podcast festival, and we know the podcast community, Portie's hard. Yeah. They were out late last night.

Brooklyn was rocking. I'm sure. I mean, more venues, which just means more places to drink and more places to tie one. Can I ask who here is? in the actual podcast world. Make some noise.

All right. It's very funny that they're in the podcast world and they raise their hand. Wait, how many people here host a podcast? All right, so we have some hosts. How many people here produce a podcast? And if you produce a podcast,

be honest, how much do you hate your hosts? Who are always like, oh, today? We have to do another? We have to do another one. I will say as somebody who hosts a podcast, I think there's this inverse relationship, which is the amount of dread I have

when I realize we have to do one is completely inverse to the joy I have once we actually do one. Yeah, well, also, you have the benefit of having a room, a space that's set up for you and staff. I lean very hard on the IT department at late night with Seth Myers.

And every time we do one, I have to take everything out of a closet and set it up in our dining room and then break it down and it's yeah it's tedious i visited josh recently and we had to i had to do a different podcast yeah and i said can i use your podcast studio and you were like studio may i welcome you to the podcast table yeah um but yeah and we are a we are a family podcast and i want to thank you because recently i've been traveling a lot and i could not do this week's

podcast and so you had to call in a emergency co-host which was our mother, who's terrific. I mean, has a lot of goodwill from our listeners. She's been on your show countless times, and she's been guests on our podcast. And you were not interviewing a guest. It was a listener episode. We often have our listeners send in stories or questions.

But you were saying backstage that she was still very nervous. Yeah, very nervous, but she was great. And there were some technical malfunctions where she, like she got kicked off the Zoom. and when they came back on, they were yelling at each other, which was a real... Dad and mom were yelling at each other.

Which was a real flashback to our youth. Yeah. But then... And what, in your best dad voice, what was he saying to mom when the Zoom came back on? There's no need to panic. There is no need to panic. Yeah.

He's very good that way. Yeah. It's lovely to be with all of you. Thank you so much. We have a podcast. I can't believe it was our third year doing family trips to the Myers Brothers on Air Fest.

Well, we keep traveling. We do keep traveling. And the world keeps traveling as well. Also, for people who listen, they know, maybe not everyone here knows, but we have a very different way of hosting this show. Which is, I believe that family trips

is sort of a broad idea that you could take a trip down memory lane of a family trip. Or you could also talk about your own biography in the trip it's led through your life. Whereas the minute people stop talking about family trips,

you're a fucking out. I don't think I'm an asshole to them. I think I'm an asshole to you. Yeah. Because you want, like, if you're... I love that you don't think that counts. If we're talking, if we're talking to a stand-up, you want to talk to them about, like, what's the room like in Charlotte?

Yeah. And it's like, I don't think that's what people tuned in for. Yeah. You could have a stand-up podcast for that. You're a real scold. You're what's called a podcast scold. Well, I'd like to keep it on a track. And I want to thank you for keeping it moving.

Now, however many, how many episodes have we done in Family Trips? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. Feels like we should know. I wrote some notes because there were some things I wanted to ask you. Oh, were you?

I feel like I'm wearing a wristband that says talent. And I'm going to be honest, when they put this on me, I feel a little bit less talented. You know what I mean? When they put on a tiny little wristband,

like I feel like at the Olympics when you go up to the podium, they're not like, let me just put a little athlete thing. On your wrist? Yeah, I feel like, you know, the very, You know, just this should like say talent. Yeah. A little wrist.

In case people are wondering why I have a little wristband on. Yeah. I don't know. I've always been uncomfortable with the term talent when you show up and someone says, oh, your talent? Oh, I thought you meant when I show up. But you just mean in general. In general, I think it's an odd term.

I've been doing a lot of traveling. Yeah. Oh, good. Let's get on topic. See, yeah, there you go. He knew who's very. And we kind of, I, it's like, been on a whirlwind. So we were on a force, we were on a forced hiatus

because the Olympics were on NBC. Right. And I guess they decided that somehow my show does less ratings than the luge. So the luge gets first position. But I took this opportunity to travel. I went to London. It was very exciting. Yeah.

Had a great time in London. That was work. That was work. Yeah, they're doing an S&L UK that starts March 21st. And a whole British writing staff, British cast. Very exciting. They asked me if I'd come over and just sort of hang out for a few days and share my meager wisdom with them. But it was great. And the very exciting thing for me is I went, I've a long time have been a fan of a British soccer team, a football club called West Ham.

And I literally have only seen them play once in my life like 25 years ago. And this was a chance to go again. And it was very exciting. They were playing Manchester United, a far better club. and here was the part that I wanted to share with you, which is first half, no score. And then at halftime, I was lucky enough to get brought to this sort of lounge with, like, luminaries of the team over the years. And it was getting close to the end of halftime,

and obviously I wanted to be back in my seat, and I don't want to miss any action. And then someone was like, oh, you should meet this guy. He, you know, he played for the club back in the 60s. And, you know, I don't know who this person is. But I'm very polite. Yeah, you know. You are.

And I'm like, you know, maybe this guy has some awesome story about playing for West Ham back in the day. And they were like, this is Seth. He's from New York. He had no idea who I was. And he's like, oh, New York City. We went to New York City in 1968. The buildings were so tough.

And then I just had to listen to him talk about New York, which is where I live. Right. He's like, the subways are undergrad. Like, just like nothing. And he went on for so long. West Ham scored. I missed the only goal.

Oh, no. I heard everybody scream. And by the way, like, this. This guy, like, you know, he's been, he goes to every game. He sees goals all the time. He didn't care. Yeah. So that was, that was sadly my story there.

Yeah. I mean, that's like being at a Super Bowl party and going to the snack table and someone's telling you about a dip. Yeah. And you miss a touchdown, but the only touchdown. We once, we're Pittsburgh Steelers fans. And I remember that we, I guess it was the 1995 Super Bowl, that's season Super Bowl. We were in college together.

And we watched the first half at a Super Bowl party. and then we realized that we had to leave. Because they were losing. They were losing and also people were still trying to be human beings to us and we didn't want to. And then we went to my apartment and do you remember what you did for the whole second half of that game? I laid under a blanket with a football or with a terrible towel over my chest?

You laid very still with a terrible towel on your chest and we started coming back and you didn't move for 90 minutes. I did my best. You did your best. We still lost, but you did your best. I also went on a ski trip. with my wife and my three children. We had a fantastic time. Yeah, we haven't really talked about this.

No, it was great. Because now we just save all these conversations for a podcast. Yeah. And in general, I will say, like, you know, there's a lot. Like, my brother and I, we're very close, but we never talked. We never had long phone conversations. No.

We talk a lot more now that we have a podcast. Yeah. And, you know, there's a lot of articles written about, like, the decline in adult male friendships. and my advice would just be like start a podcast. I highly recommend. So you went skiing with your family?

I went skiing and see the minute I started not talking about a trip. Where did you go, Seth? I've never been to Montana and we went to Montana. It was great. But mostly I just had stories about my children I wanted to share.

We had room keys, you know, magnetic room keys and kids get really excited about keys. I think there's something about it that makes them feel the power of freedom. You know, like a nine. Access, right, exactly. A nine, a seven-year-old, they're just kind of key-obsessed. And anyway, so I'm leaving.

My whole family was at breakfast, and I'm, like, looking around. I can't find a key, so I don't have a key. And then I go to breakfast, and then Alexi's like, can you go back to the room? I need something. And I'm like, of course. And I'm like, does anybody have a key? And Axel, my seven-year-old goes, oh, yeah, I do.

How many do you need? And he pulled five keys out. Like, he just was like, I'm the key guy. Yeah. I will also say, you know, we obviously, we grew up with kids of the, we were children of, you know, born in the 70s, children of the 80s. Arcade life was a big part of our life. Huge.

We were at, the hotel had an arcade, like a... Classic arcade. Classic arcade. But like, you know, like, ski ball, Papa Shot, you know, of like some Pac-Man, some, like, more modern stuff. Our kids are like very, we don't have a video game system in the house. You know, they're very, you know, we're pretty, as you know. Yeah.

I will say I can't figure out what to do with this pillow. Yeah. It's been a real battle. I know. It's been a battle. You know what? I'm going to say pillow one, Josh zero. So anyhow, yes.

So any, but I will say, like, it was such an advertisement for not letting your kids play video games. Because the kids knew about the arcade and, like, we would go ski and then we'd have dinner in there, like, can we go to the arcade for half an hour and be like, yes. And it made, it melted our boys' brains. Like the post video game They could not even like comprehend Like they became so addicted to like So you couldn't get them out of there? I couldn't get them out of there

And then when I got him out of there They would like we'd get them like into the bathroom They'd be like, what are their games? What do they play? They were playing like some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle game Like some race card game Like all nonsense But like they were just like they just don't

They're not used to it. Quarters? Are they? No, no I think it was like kind That was even worse because it was like, hey, these games are free. Oh. Yeah.

So they didn't even have the appreciation of like running out of quarters. Yeah. Yeah. We also, because we talk about, and I feel like we as a family, my family and our family growing up, that thing of like in a car playing like road trip games, you know, is very important way to pass the time, right? And so we were in a car. We had to drive to dinner.

And my daughter, Addy, who is four, had a paper. cup full of wasabi beans. You know those like hard wasabi beans? Like wasabi peas? Yes, that's better. Yeah. That's better because that's what they're calling. So they had like little wasabi peas and you know they're like green and they got

you know. And she likes them and she calls them bassabi's. You know, great. You know, obviously that's, you wouldn't have corrected her if she said basabi peas. No. Yep. But wasabi beans you jumped all over me. Well, you.

Yeah. So she has her basabi peas. and then we go to dinner and, you know, we walk into the restaurant and Alexi takes the rest of them and just throws him away, right? We're at a restaurant now. Then we get back in the car and Adi asked for her Basabi peas. And she's like, Alexi's like, we threw him away. And she's like, balling.

She's so, and she's in the car and she's like, I want my basabi. She's so, she's besob herself. Yeah. And she's screaming for him. And then my son, Ash, says, oh, let's play a game to take Addie's mind off it. Good idea. And I'm so proud of him. Like, oh my God, that's such a good idea.

And he goes, well, play a guessing game. Like, great, let's play a guessing game. He was Addy. What's green and white and... He goes, what's green and white and spicy all over? And Adi, like, goes, Basabi. And I literally, I go,

Ash, that maybe is the funniest thing you've ever said. Yeah. And then there was a small downside, though, which is he then told it. He said it, like, 10 more times. until we had to be like, it's not funny anymore. Right. But he has the thing.

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Only one of us is deeply incapable. They're in over their heads when a misguided theft for their dying grandmother accidentally pulls them into the world of organized crime. Blackmailed into increasingly dangerous assignments, they clumsily fail, upward, sinking deeper into chaos, they're ill-equipped to handle. We would be very, I don't think we could pull off a heist, Posh. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah.

Do you think mom and dad could pull off a heist? I would love to see them try. I mean, I feel like you know when the cops catch them? Yeah. When they are bickering before they even get to the heist. When they're in a crawl space, they're like. Yeah, oh my God, mom and dad in a crawl space. No, thank you.

Catch Dan Levy and big mistakes on April 9th, only on Netflix. DRIPS. Here we go. And then last but at least, I was lucky enough I went to Milan. I went to, I got to go to the women's gold medal hockey game. Amazing. Unbelievable. Amazing.

Unbelievable. One of the greatest sporting events I've ever seen live. And then I was, did the Today Show the next day and the entire team was there. I got to meet them all. They were so lovely, so wonderful. Wouldn't let me wear the medals? Never. None of them?

No, I never really asked, but. I can't believe you wouldn't ask. I know, but it felt weird, you know. Yeah. Like a little thirsty. Right. I mean, you do, you're wearing a wristband that says talent, so. Do you think if I was wearing this, they would ask to try it on?

But I told the story on the show, but it was really funny because I went to the game, and it was, the vibe was so great, and I think there's a real, obviously, rivalry between the U.S. and Canada on the ice. But the fans, the Canadian fans were so nice, the American fans were so nice. Like, the vibe and the arena was really positive. No fights. No fights. Yeah. And I, when I would like sort of walk through to, you know, to go to the concession or, you know, run the bathroom, it was very lovely.

I had very lovely interactions with people. American fans, Canadian fans, a lot of people were asking to take pictures. It was very lovely and great. But then multiple Italian people who were also there would then come over to me and they had no, they would ask me who I was. Right. Based on the fact that I'd taken photos with other people. Fair. So they'd seen that.

And they're like, who are you? and like a little aggressive like who are you and I'm like and then like put you in this very you know awkward situation of having to explain why other people want a picture with you yeah right like I don't want to

and I'm like oh I you know I have a television show in America and then a multiple of them were like okay I'll get a picture and I'm like they did you the favor don't do me any favors you know what I mean and then another a security guard stopped me

and he asked me if I was Hugh Grant. Oh, well, they go. He's like, are you a Hugh Grant? That's a real throwback for you. That's a real throwback for me. I've gotten a, and I was like, I'm not Hugh Grant. And then he was a little aggressive. He thought this was exactly what Hugh Grant would say if he didn't want to take a picture, right? Yeah. Like, I'm like, I'm not Hugh Grant. He's like, yeah. Let's get this picture. So then I had to show, I went on my phone and I showed him a picture of me interviewing Hugh Grant. And he was like, oh, okay. Like, he still was like,

mm. Yeah. And then I went back to my seat. And then the next time I went up, he was like, I'll get a picture. Like, he had to think about it. He had to get over his disappointment that I wasn't Hugh Grant. Yeah. And then he took a picture with me. Yeah. How do you think he's doing now? Uh, Hugh Grant or the Italian street? The Italian guy. Who has this picture on his phone? I guess my question is, do you think, Let me ask you a question. Do you think he's showing it to people saying this is me and Hugh Graham? Maybe.

Yeah, I mean, there's a chance that he's like, if all Italians are like me, this is close enough. Yeah. Yeah. I have a thing that's happening now where I play Governor Gavin Newsom on Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah. And every time... A great one this week. And every time I do, people in the comments will keep saying, oh, I thought that was Seth Myers.

Even when you and I did something together on Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah. People were like, oh, Seth Myers does a great Gavin Newsom, and it's like, you walk out next to me. Yeah. That's very funny. People think when people look like people, they're those people. There are those people. Yeah. I've gotten sort of tagged as Newsom in like Trader Joe's in Hollywood. And I'm like, Gavin Newsom's not at Trader Joe's. My favorite, our friend Brendan Hunt once, we were from Ted Lassow and we worked with him in Amsterdam and Boom, Chicago. And we were doing a show. I can remember where, I think we were, we were in like Houston or something. He and I and we were in a mall in Houston and there was somebody walking wearing a Houston Astros jersey

that said Bagwell, Jeff Bagwell, you know, Hall of Fame baseball player. And he's like, oh my God, he goes, and a guy did look like Jeff Bagwell. And he's like, I think that's Jeff Bagwell. And I'm like, I know it's not. Because Jeff Bagwell wouldn't wear a Jeff Bagwell jersey to the mall.

Right. Yeah. To a game. To a charity game. to a game. Now that he's retired, yeah, he could wear one. One last thing, I've noticed about myself traveling recently, and I wonder if this is true of anybody else,

which is I have a terrible habit now of when I'm on an airplane. Like, if someone else is watching a movie on the back of their chair that I like, I find that I'm just, like, watching it. Like, like, one row up and, like, one seat over. And, like, I don't under... Like, I also have the ability to watch that movie. Right. And I think it's if it's a movie I've seen a bunch of times that, like,

I feel like very, my time in an airplane is very precious, and I don't want to, like, waste it by, like, watching Goonies. Because I've seen Goonies so many times. Right. And yet, if someone's watching Goonies one seat up, I'm like, oh, man, that's Goonies. Yeah. And, like, I just kind of creep on it the whole time, and I'm like, why am I not just watching Goonies?

Yeah. Yeah. You can. You should. Thank you, buddy. Yeah. Also, I should say flying, too. When you're flying with a family of five.

which we often do. I feel like the airlines are like, you know where we think you will enjoy this flight the most? Right next to the bathroom all the way in the back. Like all our flights are like, we're just like, it's like five of us and a stranger in that like back room by the bathroom. And our daughter, Alexi, I'm sorry,

my wife Alexi and our daughter Addy, they're best friends. And then me and the boys like are fine. Right. Like nobody sees us and is like, oh, because it's just like, like I'm just like a like a AV like concierge

like it's just head phone I've been on a train with you yeah it's just like headphones and iPads and adapters and splitters and like nobody's happy and just like the amount like within like five minutes of giving them an iPad it's like so smudged up

yeah it's like looking out of windshield during a blizzard and yeah it's not that much fun to fly we did we flew together last year me you and your boys out of LaGuardia to Pittsburgh for an annual family trip. And I had booked a flight

and for whatever reason it was like another $20 for me to check my bag and be in first class. And your boys were asking if they were in first class and you weren't. And I was and I got to board first and then you guys had to walk by me

and I talked so much shit to my little nephews. They were so sad about it and I was like, where are you guys going? And I'm never in first class. And then they like, I don't know what, is it like, Like, they have a gate that I call, like, Peanuts Walk when they're so disappointed.

And, like, they walk past, like, better seats anywhere. They walk like this. They're like... They also, like, in LaGuardia, they sell Lego sets that couldn't be bigger. They sell, like, the Death Star. Yeah. And your boys were like, can we get this? And you're like, what?

Like, we're getting on a plane to go to Pittsburgh and then come back. We're not buying a Death Star. Yeah. That we would have to then come. carry with us to Pittsburgh and then bring back to New York City. Yeah. Yeah. They got to, those kids got to wise up. No. Also, though, like,

Hey, LaGuardia, maybe don't put a giant Lego store on my way to the flight. Yeah. Very unkind. The only way you can buy one is if you don't have a carry-on and that becomes your carry-on. Yeah. And then you're just an adult who's bringing a giant Lego set onto an airplane. Yeah.

We, this was Billed as having a special guest and due to weather, we went to a plan B that I'm going to argue is kind of a plan A. I think it's going to be better and more interesting than anyone we could have got. And it's a little tied into the theme of family trips. Absolutely. Someone who might have some insights about our family because they've been on trips with our family. So please welcome to the stage, my wife, McKenzie Rollins. Yeah, McKenzie!

Thank you. Oh, I didn't hug you. I didn't hug you. McKenzie, I'm going to start. Like, obviously, my brother and I are very close, and you guys are married. But this is the first time we're meeting. Yeah, I really thought... I really thought the first time that I was ever going to do anything like this would be in the comfort of our own home.

Not, like... Right, you know, that's very untrepared. We could have had you on the podcast sitting at your dining room table. Yeah, I could have had my dog with me, like, nervously petting her. Yeah, yeah. Also, not a performer. You're an equest of a performer. Restrian by trade.

Yeah. This is incredibly unnatural for me. I'm like in a cold sweat right now. I understand your mom's nerves. So you met our parents on vacation. Well, I first met your mother before I met anybody else in the family because I was in Cape Cod with my mom. Oh, right. You went to visit our mother and her sisters.

Yeah, we had just started dating and she was with the geese in the family. their rental house. The geese is the name, our collective name for Josh and my aunts. Yeah, because when they talk, it sounds like a bunch of geese flying overhead. It was very true. This is like, the din of their conversation would be just like, well, yeah, it was very much like that. So I was close to them and you were like, you should just go meet my mom.

And I was like, oh, okay. So I grabbed a bottle of wine and my mom was like, should I come? And I was like, no, I don't think so. so we've just started dating like i don't need to intro you into this family yet because she's a real wild card yeah yeah um but then meeting uh our father yeah so i met set separately and then we were going to amsterdam for thanksgiving because it was right before your show started so it was the last thanksgiving in amsterdam which you guys had been doing for years so when you asked me again i felt the same way i'm like in a cold sweat i was very nervous like oh my god i'm going to go to

Amsterdam and meet your whole family, like the rest of your family. And it was Alexi and your father who I hadn't met yet. And I was like terrified to meet both of them. And I should know, I mean, because this is obviously a very unique situation. You know, Josh and I lived in Amsterdam. We worked for this theater. Our parents used to come and visit us at Thanksgiving in Amsterdam because we would go home for Christmas and we wouldn't be able to go back twice, that close together. And so it became this tradition, like long after we left Amsterdam, we would still go back to Amsterdam and we would have Thanksgiving there with our friends. And the first time Alexi met my family,

I believe was also in Amsterdam. Like I called her, we just started dating. I'm like, I know this is crazy. Do you want to fly to Amsterdam and spend Thanksgiving in a country that doesn't celebrate it with my family? And that's what we chose to do. Yeah. And we both lasted.

Here we are. And we, so we got in and had to like go take a nap at mom and dad's Airbnb. Well, yeah, because I had been so nervous. and we're leaving L.A. And Josh was like, you really need to sleep on this flight. It's a long flight. We're going to get there.

We're going to hit the ground running. And I brought something to help me sleep. Did not sleep at all. But you did take, like, two of those things to help you sleep. I took two of the things to help me sleep and a glass of wine. And I was like, I'll watch another movie. I'll watch another movie. I'll watch another movie.

And he woke up and was like, have you slept? And I was like, mm-mm. No, I haven't. I haven't slept at all. And we get to Amsterdam. and I immediately fell asleep on the train and then had no recollection of how we got to your parents' apartment.

I, like, had no... I was like, did we take a car? What did we do? And then we passed out. We took a little nap in their apartment, and then we finally got to go to where we were staying. And then the next night, dad had, like, it wasn't dramatic.

It sounds dramatic, but he had a heart attack but didn't, like, know he had a heart attack. Yeah. So he woke up and he's like, my arms hurt. I'm going to go to the hospital. And they were like, you had a heart attack. Yeah.

And it was, so we had to push Thanksgiving, which when you're in a country that doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving, easy to do. Because the doctor said, Dad said, like, is there anything I shouldn't do? And he said, don't eat a whole turkey for at least 48 hours. But I do remember your father very specifically said to me, it was because I met you.

Yeah. Okay, Larry. That was dad's joke? Yeah. Yes. Oh my God. That's a really good that's a apex level dad joke.

Yeah. He took his breath away. Almost killed him. But then I also almost killed myself. Yeah, you almost killed yourself. Yeah, you almost killed yourself in Amsterdam. So we were riding bikes, which I was also very nervous to do in a very busy city. You guys were all very comfortable doing it.

You'd been doing it for years. And I was like, oh, okay. And it had just rained. And the whole time of riding bikes, I just, I just kept thinking about, like, I hope I don't hit a curb and, like, fall or get hit by a car or anything. And we're riding bikes. I'm kind of, like, last in the train, just, like, trying to make sure I can clock where everybody's going. And they go up on a curb, and I hit the curb wrong.

And, like, immediately lose control of the bike going down a stairwell. And I just went, like, I'm going to go with a bike at the top of the stairwell. And it went crashing down, and everybody stopped and everybody turned around. And I was like, I'm okay, I'm okay. And everybody's like, where is your bike? It was terrifying. Yeah, and you're still embarrassed by that. Like that picture will pop up on our aura frame.

And she's always like, I'm still embarrassed. And it's like, it wasn't your fault. We, it is very, obviously, you know, riding bikes in Amsterdam. Like, it's a bike city and like you're safe from cars. But, like, it's a, you know, the bikers are basically like commuters. And so if you were a leisurely biker, a recreational biker, it can be very intimidating. And I remember when we live there,

two of our closest friends, Bags and Jake, came and visited. And like, this was right out of college. And they were coming to Amsterdam to do, like, the sort of classic stereotypical, like, Amsterdam in your 20s. Like, they just wanted to, like, smoke weed and, like, you know, eat French rice. Yeah. But I got, I rent, we rented bikes because it's crazy to be in Amsterdam and not, you know, ride bikes.

And I had lived there for six months. and we rented bikes, and the one thing they tell you is, like, there's these tram tracks, and you can't, like, when you cross the tram tracks, you've got to get perpendicular to them because there is a chance

that your wheels could get, like, stuck in the tram tracks. And now it's, like, it's just the simplest thing to tell somebody. And so, like, rented our bikes, and we got on the bikes, and I go, oh, one last thing, like, when you cross the tram tracks,

you know, like, cross them this way, so you don't get stuck in the tram tracks, and they both, they were also already a little stone, and they were like, what? And I was like, you would get stuck in the tram track, and they're like, And then what happens? And I'm like, then you're just, just don't worry about it.

Just go like this. And they literally both just got off their bikes, put them, lock them up, and they're like, we're not doing that. Yeah, better safe than sorry. Better safe than sorry. And now we're going to take a quick break to hear from one of our sponsors. Support comes from Blue Land. Here's something wild.

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I wanted them to see what you're doing. Well, it's funny. We're staying with my friend Sophia and her husband Ben and their daughter, Lola, who's 11. And I think I was around Lola's age when I got this Christmas present from my mom. And I had always wanted to go to Disney. And my mom is like, not a theme park lady. She's not a ride lady. She's definitely not a Disney lady. But she got us tickets to Disney and put the tickets in an envelope in a big box that had like tons of peanuts.

so I had to dig around for it and we have this really cute picture of me. It's a Polaroid and I'm like, yes. And at the time, we were getting our floor sanded at the house. So this was like the excuse to get out of the house. And she like went all out. We decided to go camping at the Disney campground. If that's going all out.

Yeah. Well, no, but the all out part. was we were then, like, there was a second part of the trip. Yeah, there was a second part of the trip, and she had, like, sent down all this camp gear. And when we got there, she's like, we're going to get it. We're going to get a convertible. And I was like, oh, this is just the coolest thing ever. So we get this convertible. We go camping. It's really fun. And then we go down to Key West. And we just had this great road trip. And we ended up stopping at, like, a pet store. And I was, like enamored with the birds and she decided that it was going to be a great idea for us to get a

bird and bring it home with us on the airplane. By the way, move over Death Star Lego set. So we got this cockatiel that I named Tiki, but we had no bird supplies at the house and it was the dead of winter. But wait, you bought it in Florida? Yeah. And then how do you get it home? In a shoe box? Gotcha. On the plane. Or do you just give it? the bird directions. We live in Massachusetts. It was our little carry-on and I played with it on the plane.

That's crazy. I don't think you could do that now. That seems, yeah. It seems very weird to be like this is, I mean, well, you could do it now, but it would have to be an emotional support bird. We get home and it's a dead of winter. We don't have a bird cage,

so we flip the laundry basket upside down and stuck a few sticks in it. Yeah. If you're a Florida bird, this is now an abduction. Yes. Like when you're in a New England upside-down laundry basket, you're like, who are these monsters? And then we were just suddenly bird people.

So then we had to get another bird so that this bird had a friend. But then they had babies. Oh, birds. So then all my friends ended up having birds. But the birds were scary to you. No, no, no. These were cockatiels. These ones were not scary.

We ended up with a scary bird later on in life. Right. They would like walk around and come bite you. It would come at you. Yeah. It was very scary. Yeah, I don't. By the way, your mother who is, like, genuinely a character that would be a great work of fiction.

Yeah. Like, the fact that she's real, I only believe because I met her. Yeah. But, like, that's, like, a real Linda trip, which is, like, we're going to be frugal. We're going to stay at a campground. Yep. Also, we're getting a convertible and a bird. Yeah.

Like, she's just all over the place. That is, like, we're going to be frugal. with Linda. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We went on our trip with the three of us

and my wife, Alexi, before we had kids, we went to Iceland. We went to Iceland in the dead of winter. Yeah. For New Year's. For New Year's. And it was a great trip,

but it was like very little daylight. Yeah. And we've talked a lot about you are an equestrian, you ride horses all the time. We went on, what are the name of the Iceland horses? Icelandic ponies.

Icelandic ponies. Impossible to remember. That's a tough. They have a gate called a tolt. That's what I can't remember. Yeah, the gate is called it. Had you ever ridden on a horse with a tolt before? I had not.

Did you enjoy the tolt? I wouldn't say that we were toltting though. No. A tolt is a very fast, well, you can probably describe it. I like it when you describe it. It's a fast run, but you can be on an Icelandic pony. It's a trot, not a run. It's a trot.

And like you could have a glass of champagne and it wouldn't like, it wouldn't even wobble. It's very smooth. And, but we were not tooting. We were not tooting. We went on this ride. It was freezing and it really was just this icy road that we went up and then we turned around and came back. It was not the best tour. But I was terrified because you guys are not horse people and we had two other people with us who were on the ride.

And no instructions were given whatsoever. A couple of the ponies were being a little naughty. The guide was way out in front. I lost control and jumped off and my horse went down the stage. You just let go. He told it down the stairs. Yeah. And I ended up like getting off

and swapping horse. I don't know. You, you became a professional. Like you felt as though the Icelandic horse people were not paying enough attention and giving enough kind

instruction to the rest of us. So your nerves were not that you were afraid of being on the horse. You just saw the rest of us and you were like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Yeah. But did you also see that that Black Sand Beach

that we went to has like been washed away. No, I didn't know that. Where I almost got washed away. Yeah, yeah. We did a, it was like the slow-mo feature on the cameras was a new thing. Yeah. And so we wanted to get a slow-mo of a wave coming in and you running away from it. Yeah.

And we got warned about rogue waves as well. Right. And by the way, when you get warned about a rogue wave, you're like, no, they're not. Yeah. It's like, they explain it to you, but you don't believe it's true. And so I got a good video of her, but I was like, you were a little bit too far ahead of the wave. Let's do one more, honey. You can get closer to the water, McKenzie, and I was like, hey, good I do.

And really, this wave came and hit you, like, in the back of the thighs. It swallowed me. And it could have... It was, like, up to my waist in water. But it's a great video. It's a great video. Yeah. But we did have to wrap your feet in plastic bags to try to keep them warm for the rest of the day.

It was a really exciting trip. We've talked about it. It was we went to a... hot spring, a natural hot spring, and we had a guide who just like sort of marched us over a snowy hill. Also, what did he talk to us? What do they believe in? Trolls. Yeah.

Talk to us a lot about like how, it was this weird thing where he was like, you know, there's a real troll culture here. Like, you know, we believe in trolls. And it was like, ha, ha, ha. And he's like, they live over there. I'm like, wait, is this? You know what I mean? Like, are we like talking about as if it's real now? Or is it like mythology?

And he's like, well, no, of course, it's mythology, but also that's where they live. But we went to this hot spring, and it was freezing cold, and we had to strip down to our bathing suits and jump in the spring, which was incredible. Our guide. I wouldn't say you jumped in, though, because the water was, like, maybe the steep.

It was. So you, that seemed true, and you had to ease in. And then just, like, lay there with your head sticking out. It was so cold. And then our guide stripped down fully naked. Yeah. And like where we were, I feel like was eye level with like his whole awkward piece of business. Yeah.

Yeah. But didn't one of you get stuck in your clothes? I got stuck, yeah. Trying to take my clothes off and then there happened to be another group of like 12 people walking up on us and I could. It was one of those things where your long underwear can't get your socks off and your legs stuck. And it's freezing.

And it's freezing. And I was also naked. Yeah. Yeah. I have very bad, like Mike's extremity, what was that? Rain-Oids. Circulation. Bad circulation, the tips of my fingers, like, it's awful. And we got out, and I had also undressed the way I'm dressed every time in my life,

which is I just lived everything in a pile. So I got out and it was like, now you're wet and it's freezing, and you don't have a lot of time to get dressed. And I remember it was so bad, I couldn't get my gloves on, and I literally said to my wife, I'm like, leave me here to die. Like, that's how miserable I was. You were having a time. I was just like, just go, just go.

I deserve this, this is where I'm going to die. Just leave me to the trolls. With the trolls. Yeah. Did you, have you observed anything from our parents on vacation that you would like to share? I think when we all first started hanging out, the thing that was hard was deciphering the language that you guys all have. And I was like, what are they even talking about?

Because it was like, Navar's this, and the Sufi Pashi thing was not something everybody knew. And I was like, yeah, Sufi and Pashi is how we address each other. Yeah. And then hurry and yerry. Yeah. But then it's just, I mean, the way you guys speak in such ease in this language, but there's things that are interchangeable, words that are interchangeable. And I'm like, I don't even, I'll just kind of sit here.

You've picked up on it. I know, and now there's... You speak Myers pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will say as family trips go, I know what, October will be second anniversary, right? Yes.

Hours? Yeah. Second? Second. Yeah. But, um... You just a year and a half. It's been married a year and a half.

I mean, you've known each other a long time. You've been together a long time. But as family trips go, I will say your wedding was an exceptional one. Yeah. And very exciting for my kids to be a part of a wedding. Yeah, it was only nieces and nieces and... nephews were the only children. No kids were allowed, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so they loved that. Yeah. They had the run of the place. Also, I don't know. I'm, you know,

look, we're not kids anymore, and I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but here's how I know you had a great wedding. Somebody hooked up. Yeah. In the sauna. In a sauna. And we're discovered. Yeah, we're discovered. And we found out about it because the younger brother of the dude who was hooking up on that trip. The younger brother is like very high functioning autistic, but can't lie. And so we were like, hey, what time did Finn go come to bed? And he was like, Finn came to bed at 522 a.m. We were like, what? It was like everything like we were done by 230. Like what was he doing? I thought we were the last ones. And we're like in the woods and the cat skills. And it's like to 522. And it's like if Aiden says it was 522, that's what time it was. So yeah.

So, good wedding. It was really fun. And I do think we were, aside from Finn and my friend, the last one's up every night. Yeah. And we were not supposed to be. Yeah, no. We, yeah, I woke up pretty hungover the morning of our wedding and had to tell mom and dad, you have to leave your room so I can sleep in this room.

Yeah. Because my room is being used for you to get ready. And if I don't sleep for an hour or something, it's going to be a bad scene. Yeah. It's sometimes hard to get mom and dad out of. of a room in the morning. Yeah. Well, they sleep.

They love, they're like 10 hours. Who was it last summer in Amsterdam that you guys had to? I had to wellness check them. Because they slept for 13 hours. Yeah. And so how did you wellness check? You went to the front of. I went to the hotel and I was like,

my parents aren't answering their phones. They're staying here. Can you please call them? And then I went up and like their hair was all over the place. And they were like they weren't. Yeah. And that we went, what was that theme part called that we went to? The Efteling.

We went to the Eftelaine, and that was the first theme park my mom had been to since our Disneyland trip. Yeah. To tie it all back to the other. Very nice tie it back. Your mom seems like, and I say this with love if she's listening, seems like the kind of woman whose picture is like back in the security area of a theme park that says do not admit. All right. So we do a speed round, a lightning round of questions at the end of every pod. and you're going to ask your wife these questions.

How exciting. What is your favorite kind of vacation? Is it relaxing, adventurous or educational? Adventurous. Boy, I should really know all these. What's your favorite means of transportation? Horse. If you could go on a vacation with any family,

alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take? You know, I listened to this podcast. all the time. And I always go, what would I say if they ever asked me that question? And I've still not come up with an answer. Well, you have to think of some family.

It's not binding. It's not binding. No, you can change it. If you want to come back on any episode, you can pop in. Since I know now your studio is in the middle of your kitchen. Oh, okay. So I can change my answer in the future. I mean, Ben and Sophia go on really great trips.

Yeah, we do. The Sherwoods. Yeah. The Sherwoods are great. No, she's still Servino. Right, right, right. Yeah. But they take very good trips.

If you, oh, this is going to be a tough one for you. If you were stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would you want it to be? It would definitely be you. Oh, honey. What is your mom, Linda, your mom, Linda, is on an island with the birds. She's with the birds. Yeah. Your dream destination for a family vacation.

Wait, is this a new one? Yeah. Maybe you haven't been listening. I really want to go to Antarctica. Okay. Interesting. I will not be joining. Or the Galapagos.

I want to go to the Galapagos, too. Oh, yeah, I do that too. I'll go to both of those places with you. You're from Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts. I am. Shout out Shelburne Falls. If you wanted to get some more families to come visit Shelburne Falls, how would you sell that town?

It's so cute. It really is. There's a beautiful bridge of flowers, which is where we got engaged. I feel like Bridge of Flowers, people can kind of race by that. Can you explain what the Bridge of Flowers is? So the town of Shelburne Falls

is made up of Shelburne and Buckland, and they're connected across the river, originally by this trolley bridge. And then they built the Iron Bridge, which is next to it, once everybody started getting called. cars. And so the bridge of flowers is now just a walking bridge and it's a garden. And the women's club of Shelburne Falls maintains it. My stepmother's on the club, right? On the board? On the board.

And they just, this will be the first year that it's open. It was closed last year because they had to sort of shut the whole thing down and dig up all the plants and do all the repairs to the bridge. So it's very exciting. Just to make it a little more fun and there's, because there's so much true crime in the podcast world, it was shut down last year because there was a murder. Well, they did film Dexter there. They did film the opening of the most recent Dexter, or maybe two Dexter's ago. Wow.

I don't know how many Dexter's there in now. There's a lot of Dexter's right now. A lot of Dexter timelines. But it's like a very classic quaint New England village. Like there's no stoplights. It's very walkable. There's lots of cute little restaurants and a lot of good hiking. And like there's a little ski resort and like 20 minutes outside of town,

half an hour. So there's mountain, biking and rafting, River rafting? Whitewater river rafting. We haven't done that, but yeah, there is. And then Seth has our final questions.

McKenzie, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have. And was it worth it? Totally. Really? Yeah. Okay. Quick question for the audience.

Show the hands, audience. How many of you have been to the Grand Canyon? All right. And now bring your hand, keep them up. Bring them down if it was. wasn't worth it. Yeah, you're the holdout. Thank you.

What? You're the holdout. I mean, I'm just saying, like, it's a, like, it should just be called Canyon, and then I think it's great. I just feel like now, I think it's just like, they oversell it a little bit with Grand. Because you go and you're like, you've gone so hard about being anti-Gran Canyon that now you just have to keep going with it.

Like, you might even totally love it and be like, I can. I have to keep doubling down on the Grand Canyon being a bit of a bust. Yeah. Look, I mean, again, there's other wonders. of the world, and I think they're great. Which one, what are the other wonders of the world do you want to go to? The Six Flags.

Isn't it, it was Six Flags in New Jersey, one of them? The pyramids? Would you want to do the pyramids? No. All right. I mean, I'm sorry, what? I was all, look, here's the thing. If you, if I was on, like, a tilting horse, I would love to like race by all these while I'm having my champagne. All right. I just don't want to

like a day of it. Right. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. I feel bad that like people, like how long it took to build the pyramids, I'm like, I don't have a day. Thank you, McKenzie, for joining us. Thank you, on Air Fest, for having us.

Thank you. This is a delay. We hope we can join you again next year. Have a great day at your podcast festival. Thanks everybody. Thank you, everybody. They were down in trips with the mice brothers. Fed stories traveling with her, she says,

When his oldest boy brought up wasabi peas, but the snow made it so hard to travel there. Airports were canceling flights. And so our guest, our guest was my wife. Yeah, our guest was my wife. Kenzie thought it was scary, riding bikes out in Amsterdam. Most rode her bike down a stairway, jumped off in the nick of time.

We went to Iceland to go for swimming. Oh, hip-eye sneaker wave. Meanwhile, Posh was just filming. Thanks to the trolls there, she was saved. They got those big fuzzy horses, so we signed ourselves up with a guide. And took a bad Icelandic pony ride. Oh, a bummer pony ride. Christmas, her mom got.

her a present big trip to travel to Disney sent camp gear so they could sleep at the campground bought a bird named Tiki I mean it's not your everyday purchase no it sounds insane but they did it on impulse brought the bird home in a box on the plane but it's one of those stories that sticks it sticks with you for your whole life there was a trip trip story from my wife Gosh, I just love my wife.