Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - GIOVANNI RIBISI Camped Next to a Nuclear Power Plant

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Giovanni Ribisi joins Seth and Josh on the pod this week! Giovanni talks about growing up in Hollywood and how his family navigated the industry, going to a western museum in Lone Pine, California, camping next to a nuclear power plant, and so much more! Family Trips is supported by Airbnb. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much more at airbnb.com/host to learn about hosting. So thanks again to Nissan for sponsoring this episode of Family Trips. Now go find your path, and enjoy the ride along the way.  Learn more at nissanusa.com Right now, get up to 60% off your Babbel subscription - but only for our listeners - at Babbel.com/TRIPS

This episode is brought to you by Airbnb. Here we go. Hey Pashi. Hey Sufi. It's been a while. How are you? I'm good. Yeah, I haven't seen you in a bit.

Haven't seen each other and we're talking, I'm talking to you from New York City. I just ended a three week hiatus that was due to the Olympics being on NBC. I'm very excited to be back in New York City, very excited to be doing the shows. But Pashi, I have a question for you. Yeah? Do you enjoy the Olympics? Oh my God.

It was great. I love the Olympics. I've always loved the Olympics. And I know I've mentioned this previously about how many times I cried during the opening ceremonies, but I will sort of pick my way through the Olympics coverage over the course of a day. And I cry almost 10 times a day.

Yeah. I just, I love it so much. I get so, I've said before, I get sort of, when people perform, it really gets me emotionally. And I feel like these athletes are just performing at such a high level and it is just the ultimate achievement for so many of them and for their families, that emotion really gets me.

I love it. That family thing kills me. That, you know what, look, NBC, obviously I work for NBC. NBC, not a sponsor of the podcast. So I wanna make sure that no one thinks this is hashtag ad. NBC did a great job covering these Olympics. There were a lot of really, Snoop Dogg is fantastic. Flava Flav, Kevin Hart and Kenan Thompson did a great job. Our friend Colin Jost did a fantastic job in Tahiti

until his foot fell off and he had to fly home to get a new foot. It was just great. Mike Tirico. Love Mike Tirico. Hoda Kapi just dancing in the stands. It was great. Tom Cruise coming down a big old thing.

Yeah. You know what? It was just fantastic. I, this morning, was reading like top 10 moments and I'm back in the city and the kids and Alexi are still on vacation. And I was crying just reading the list of best moments. And then Alexi FaceTime me and she was like,

are you crying? And I was like, yeah, I was watching Olympic stuff. And you can imagine the speed in which she was like, ugh. Simone Biles and Jordan Childs bowing to the Brazilian gymnast. So classy. Sobbing. Yeah.

That American who won the 1500. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Was it the 1500 or the 10,000? I thought it was a 1500. Yeah, it was a 1500. Yeah, yeah. Was it the 1500 or the 10,000? Which? I thought it was a 1500. Yeah, it was a 1500. Yeah, yeah.

Because it was like a... Oh, but by the way, I'm in transition. Yeah. I ran a 5K this weekend. Oh, okay. Was that too abrupt a transition? No, I just, yeah. I don't know that...

Were you done talking about the language? Let's see if I cry. Let's see if I cry. Okay, let's see if you cry. This will be a good test of how, of whether... Because you, I know that. Let's see if I cry. Let's see if you cry. This will be a good test of whether, cause you, I know this, you love me more than any of the Olympic athletes. A hundred percent true.

So this is really gonna show the depths of how meager my achievement was that you're not gonna even get a little bit choked up. Well, I don't know, let's hear about it. Tell me about it. Well, it's a big year for me. Uh-huh. Because I'm 50. So, you know about it, tell me about it. Well, it's a big year for me. Uh-huh. Because I'm 50.

So, you know, they- Oh, new division, you're a new division. New division. But I also have been running, two years ago I was running a lot. Uh-huh. And I have not been running the same amount now. Right.

And I'm feeling a little sad, right? Cause I'm like, oh, this means I'm dying. You know, and again, we're all, you know, you're closer to death, right? Yeah, I And again, we're all a year closer to death, right? Yeah, I mean, every day we're a day closer to death. So I was definitely feeling like I was really depressed at the starting line thinking about how sad I was gonna be when I saw my time, because I felt like it was gonna be

the reaper's scythe tapping me on the shoulder. Anyway, Poshie, I brung the race only 12 seconds slower than I was two years ago. Oh wow. And I'm gonna tell you something, there were 99 50 to 59 year olds in my 5K. You came in 100th? 15th.

15th, there you go. Not bad, right? Yeah, also that's a good, I feel like now you can taste the top 10. And you know what? Yeah. Yeah, and next year, there's only gonna be, you know, those people that were 49 turning 50

who are gonna pop into it. Yeah, there's a handful, obviously a handful of new blood, as much as you can be new blood at the age of 50. Yeah. Yeah. Spring chickens. Yeah, are you comfortable sharing your time? Yeah, I'm comfortable.

I can tell you, I ran seven 52s was my mile pace. Okay, all right. Not bad. I bet, I'm wondering right now, leave it in the comments. Did you think it was gonna be that fast or are you disappointed it was slower than you thought? Yeah.

Well, I mean, I bet the majority of people won't know. I don't think most people know what they run a mile in. Yeah, that's true. I think runners do, but I don't think most people. And I think the bummer. I don't know what I run a mile in. I think the bummer for me is runners know and they won't be impressed by that number.

Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. But I want you to know, can I tell you, if you don't know, that's really good. That's what that number I just said is really good. I also had a nice moment at the airport. Young, you're real. Now we're talking real. I'm going to guess 20 to 29 is this guy's age division. Uh-huh. Baggage handler at the airport.

Yeah. Says, saw you at the race. And I said, you beat me? And he went, yeah. And I went by, I go by a lot, and he goes, by a lot less than I thought I would. And I was like, all right. He goes, I looked at your time afterwards, and you were closer to me than I thought you'd be. I was like, all right, yeah. He goes, I looked at your time afterwards

and you were closer to me than I thought you'd be. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a little feather in your cap. It's sort of a dirty feather you found on the street. If you're not watching on YouTube, I should note Posh is sobbing right now. Tears are pouring down Posh's face. Hey, I have something else to say about our guest today, Giovanni Ribisi.

Lovely conversation. And, you know, he's a cinematographer of this new movie. And, you know, obviously I knew him as an actor. Like, right after we chatted with him, I was on a plane. And, uh, Lexi was watching Friends, and I was watching Saving Private Ryan. Gotcha. And at a moment, Robici was literally on screen on both of our TVs

because he played Phoebe's brother, I think. I don't know, the sound was off. Can I tell you something about Friends? The show. Yeah, go for it, yeah. Everybody's watching it on planes. Everybody's watching it. Everybody's like teenage kids are obsessed with it

and they're like, oh, we're, I'm watching it like through for my third time, like all the way straight through. People love Friends. People love Friends. People love Friends. Also, you know, I don't need to tell you how good a movie Saving Private Ryan is. I sometimes just found myself watching Friends.

I couldn't hear it. I just, the six of them were so in the pocket at what they were doing, that Friends is actually really fun to watch. Like even without sound, they're just so good. Yeah, I've seen a few episodes of Friends, but Friends missed me just based on where I was in my life. Friendless.

I feel like that was back when you were friendless. And I didn't want any fake friends. I remember you were always like, I'm gonna get my own friends. Rubbin' it in! No, I was in college and I wasn't watching TV in college. And then I moved overseas right after school. No, I was in college and I wasn't watching TV in college. And then I moved overseas right after school.

Yeah. And so we, Amsterdam, we weren't getting like the, the sort of current TV lineup that we were getting in the States. And then I moved back and I just sort of, I feel like it finished when I was back, but I wasn't invested. So that's one that maybe, maybe in time,

I will go through, just like all the kids are today. And revisit. Yeah. Again, you were in Amsterdam when Friends came out. This is, I just wanna, again, sometimes I like to show you off, Pashi. I like to show off your skills.

Tell them real quick, what is the Dutch word for friends? Vrienden. Amazing. Just has it. I have so many friends, you have no idea. Yes, my... How do you say favorite? I don't know. Should we just say favorite?

Yes, probably. My favorite friend is Rose. Is Rose? Ross, that's how they say Ross. I click in, I click in Rose. He having a monkey, what is monkey? How do you say monkey? Apia. Apia. Apia.

Ap, ap. How do you say like? I don't remember anything. How do you say like? Now I'm remember anything. How do you say like? Now I'm just getting caught in my Spanish now. Oh right, because now you're learning Spanish. I like to apologize to all our Dutch listeners. What is how do you say smart?

I can't remember smart. Smart is like... Slim. Oh yeah, slim. I knew it was a different word. Yeah, that Joy is not too slim. That Joy? Joey! Oh my god, do you not know any of the characters? God, you really don't? I mean, like, you cannot watch Friends and know... Can you name all six Friends? This is crazy to me.

Name the six friends first names. Ross, Rachel, Joey. Phoebe? Yeah. Courtney Cox and Matthew Perry are the ones missing, if that helps you. No. I'll know, I mean, I'll know them when you say them, but I don't... They were never my friends.

They were GoGo and Scooch. They had a new show, they had a like spin-off, Go-Go and Scooch that didn't do well, right? We wanna hear more of your questions. We like doing listening episodes. Please send it to us at speakpipe.com slash family trips pod. Questions like, how do you not know all six of the friends names?

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We're just, it's like riding a bike, you and I. Yeah. Feet. That's the Dutch word for bike. Well done. Isn't that funny? Cause like feet is like what we have to use when we don't have a bike, well done. Isn't that funny? Cause like feet is like what we have to use when we don't have a bike.

Oh boy. Now it's like falling off a bike. Yeah. Enjoy Giovanni Ribisi everybody. Family trips with the mice brothers. Family trips with the mice brothers. With the Myles Brothers family chips With the Myles Brothers Here we go

Oh sorry, I had to hit hail right. Hello. Hey there. How's it going? Well, how are you? It's so... Hanging in there, hanging in there. So we're gonna get to family trips,

but Giovanni, I have to say something because when I read that you were the cinematographer on this movie, I thought, oh, that must be wrong. He clearly directed, but no, you're the cinematographer because a lot of my friends who have acted first, when they eventually direct a movie, I'll say, oh my God, that seems so hard. And they'll say, oh, it's actually not that hard

because you just say what you want and the cinematographer has to figure it out. So you actually are doing the hard job. No, I mean, I think there's a lot that goes, obviously that goes into directing, but yeah, for me, I mean, I guess I've been sort of trying to understand it myself. My mother, I grew up, she was always into photography and for the last 30 years I've

had cameras in my hand. And I think that I can sort of summarize it by saying that I got into acting when I was really young, I think I was like nine or 10 years old, and it was a nine or 10 year old decision to do that. And then I kind of just got swept away in that. And during the last 40 years of that career, you know, my curiosity was always into cameras and camera work. And then, you know, I eventually sort of more or less came out of the closet and doing it for the last 15 years. And, and, and, and really it was just an incredible experience. I mean, it's just one of the hardest worst experiences I've had, but, but also the best, you know,

were you someone when you were young on a set, were you the kind of actor who was asking questions to the cameraman and the director? All the time, okay. Well, if you think about it, I mean, you know, depending on what the setup is, there's this machine that's right there with three people surrounding it. And those are, I mean, those were my friends growing up.

You know, I literally grew up and went to school on set. And so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I watched the trailer for your film, Strange Darling, and it does, in the middle watched the trailer for your film, Strange Darling, and it does, in the middle of the trailer, it says, go in blind, like you should go in blind. And I was like, oh, I almost want to stop watching

this trailer, but it is, it is right up my alley. And I am very much a person that if someone says, see this movie, don't lay eyes on anything about it. Don't learn anything about it. I will take that to heart. So yeah, it looks like, I mean, thriller, horror, something in that world. I will just say as well, I started to read a review,

a very good review that also said go in blind, basically. And I realized, oh, look at this. Everybody's saying to know as little as possible. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I guess we could, yeah, it's interesting because we got the movie financed, I guess, based on the fact that we were like, yeah, it's a thriller, it's a horror film,

it's a scream queen kind of thing. And then, while we were in production, we tried to pull the wool over there and do something that maybe was, I don't know, more unique or what, I don't know, whatever. But again, yeah, it was this interesting thing because it was a really small budget. I mean, in comparison to what else is going on in the economics of the film world. And I mean, what we went through in order to do that, it was really like just getting down and dirty

and such a different experience from coming out of your trailer and being like, I don't wanna say that. And so yeah, I mean, there's a lot, it's just still sort of like unpacking it all. You mentioned your mom, always into photography. You grew up in LA. Both your parents were in the entertainment industry.

Yeah, well, no, so my mother, no, they weren't. My mother got into the entertainment industry with me when I was a kid. Yeah, in the early 80ies, I guess it was. And so, yeah, I mean, she was, it was just an incredibly supportive feet on her part, you know, just driving around, you know, auditioning five auditions a day, Los Angeles,

you know, like that whole thing, so. Yeah. And then, and your father was not, was not in the business? No, he was, he was, you know, he had his own business and he was, he's in the printing business. He was a print broker, yeah. Gotcha. And sibling wise, you have one twin sister

and then your other sister is older or younger? Younger, she's two years younger. We're essentially triplets. I mean, it was like, yeah. You guys are pretty close. That's very kind. We're two years. Yeah, we're two years.

And a lot of, we get a lot of twin people say, are you twins? Which is something you say only when you see us in two different places. If you see us next to each other. I know. That's when it really pops that Josh is younger. Yeah, right.

So, but when did you guys get involved in the entertainment business industry? After college. After college, right. Yeah, we were both sort of like college improvisers and then we sort of found our way into like working for theater troops and that sort of thing. But was it something that you guys always knew that you guys wanted to do when you were, or it was just something that- I don't think so.

The seeds were there, yeah. I went to, I wanted to, I mean, I was a film major when I went to college, and I, this is why I'm also impressed about your path towards cinematography, which is I had the opposite of your curiosity, which is I think I wanted film to only be storytelling. And then my intro to film class, I realized,

oh my God, this is so technical. And this feels like science class in high school. And I was bad at that. And so I have to find a different path. Yeah. Whereas it seems like you were drawn to that. And I have a lot of friends who are, talk about cameras and lenses and I'm like, oh, okay.

Yeah, well, yeah. All right, goodbye. Yeah. I'm gonna go grab a beer. I'm impressed. I mean, their work always looks fantastic, but I mean, it's more of a shortcoming of mine as opposed to anything else.

Yeah, I mean, it really is this thing where it's not just, you get past the technical stuff and, but it's, you know, the workload. I mean, it's, there's this notion that being on a, or set life or whatever is sort of glamorous and it's just, it's not, I mean, it is just, you know, you're up at four o'clock in the morning and working all day until the sun goes down and it's an industry

and there's just a lot that goes into it. And like somebody was saying on set, you have to have a certain kind of gene. It really separates the world of being an actor and being a crew member who's got to like sort of pull this thing through to the finish line. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Family Trips is supported by Airbnb. Hey, Pashi. Yes, Sufi.

You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers schedule comes out and we just immediately, you, me, mom, dad, start trying to find our weekend. Yeah, we look in that calendar and then, yeah, we sort of throw our marker down. And then once we throw our marker down, our next stop is Airbnb because we, last year, famously, all stayed together under one roof in a wonderful home in Pittsburgh. Years before,

we'd done hotels and it just was such a nicer way to do it. Yeah, it's nice to wake up, come downstairs, make a pot of coffee, and then have mom and dad roll out and have that coffee ready, have some bagels, just be able to sit around and have breakfast and feel almost like it would feel if we were in our own home. And you know what we had that was really special? We had a porch swing. Uh-huh. We took photos in a porch swing. Yeah. Can I say something? Every one of them worse than the last. And I will say porch swings are wonderful. They take worse photos than you last. And I will say porch swings are wonderful. They take worse photos than you think.

I think porch swings are good to take photos of children. I think for adults, it's just all thigh. You know what I mean? It was a real meaty, like a lot of meaty thighs in that photo. I think I was standing off to the side. You were smart. Point is, maybe you're someone right now is listening.

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Did you have sort of regular trips or are there any classic trips that stand out to you? That, yeah, that's, I mean, actually recently there was this on Memorial Day, I guess. I was, it was early in the morning, I was working in my office and my daughter, who's five years old, she's also a twin, we have twins, came in and she said, I wanna go camping in the trailer.

And actually my first thought was, we have a trailer? And oh yeah, it's that thing in the driveway, right? That you know, guests from out of town, they come and they stay there. And so it was, you know, cutting to trying to, you know, listen to be a good father and listen to my daughter and say, okay, we're going to go do this camping trip in the trailer, this thing that's out in the driveway. And my wife was looking for a place, last minute Memorial Day,

that we could park this thing, like a campsite. And she came, she said, we have one place within a 50 mile radius that we can go to, and it's this place called Santa No Fre, which I don't know if you remember the naked gun where George Kennedy and Leslie Nielsen, they're driving, and Priscilla Presley broke up with them. He's like, I can't stop thinking about her, and they cut to the nuclear power plant that looks like breasts.

And so that's where we ended up going. And it turns out the nuclear power plant was like 500 feet away from us. Yeah, it's been decommissioned, hasn't it? Yeah, it has been, but it's still a nuclear power plant. Do you know what I mean? You don't know what they've got in there in barrels. It's a little bit like a whole family,

a whole family was murdered in this hotel room, but don't worry. Yeah, don't worry about it. Yeah. We cleaned it up. It's been decommissioned. What does that mean? And so then, yeah, it turns out that like the one place

within if it was like literally one spot and it felt more like a parking lot than a campsite. And then it was just turned into this whole thing. And it was, what was great about it, I do have to say, is that we actually got the thing going, and now we're gonna, you know, California's just incredible for that stuff.

You know, you have San Bernardino. Giovanni, does this mean you had to drive a car with a trailer on the back of it? Yeah, a truck. You, yourself? I drive a truck, and so it was, yeah. Okay, gotcha. So this is within the the back of it? Yeah, a truck. I drive a truck. Okay, gotcha. So this is within the purview of your skill set because I would not want to drive.

You know, a bunch of YouTube videos and then like two hours later, then it becomes like, yeah, this is safe. Don't worry about it. Is the other five-year-old a boy? Do you have one of these as well? Yeah, yeah, I have it, yeah. And so the daughter wanted to go on the camping trip.

Did the son, was he equally enthusiastic? Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, he kind, she's definitely, you know, the girls mature a lot faster than the boys. I still experience that with my twin sister, if you know what I mean. And so yeah, he kind of follows her along. But it was incredible, it was really great.

I mean, when I say it was like a parking lot, it was literally like the next parking spot over was this bunch of drunk people celebrating Memorial Day and having a party at 10 o'clock at night. Yeah, booking the last spot at a campground is always dicey. Yeah, especially in Santa No Fre. It's almost, it's historically almost never the best one. Yeah, no, exactly.

But we're gonna do a little bit more planning. Is this like, are you that kind of family where you sort of last minute think, you know what, let's, okay. Always? Have you always been that? Yeah, we're getting better at it, but I think that for this next, we wanna go, there's a great place in California called Lone Pine where they have like the Alabama Hills. And I've been up there and they have a Western museum. They shot, I think they've shot in like 1800 West

because of the landscape, it's just amazing. And it's right next to Mount Whitney. And so I think that's gonna be the spot. It's three hours away. It's just the, yeah. Yeah. It's on the way to Mammoth, isn't it? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, so you're familiar with California, obviously. Yeah, yeah, I'm out here. Oh, okay, you are? Okay, great. Okay, cool. I feel like you have to be sort of in sync with your partner to do the sort of last minute trip. Is your wife that style as well?

Oh yeah, way more than me. You know what, let's do it. Okay, gotcha. You know, I'm turning 50 this year in December and I feel like the older I get, the more I just become like, no, we can just sit on the couch, no problem, right? But she's been really, she she's just, you know,

she kind of charges and really wants to go do something. So yeah, yeah. I turned 50 last December and Josh will attest to the fact that I'm also married to a person who is single-handedly keeping me off the couch. Yeah, oh good. I'm very lucky, we're very lucky to have that because you never look back and say,

you know what was great? That couch week. No. Yeah. So what about, did you guys travel as a family when you were little? Yeah, I was gonna say it's such a different thing traveling, touring around nowadays

than it was in the 70s. There was this one trip, it was actually, I remember it was 1980 because it was when the Blues Brothers was released for the first time. And on Christmas night, it was a traditional thing, I mean, after, you know, that my family, we would always go see a movie. And I remember, so we were up in Northern California and we were traveling around and we went to go see the Blues Brothers because Aretha Franklin and, you know, and for me, Steven Spielberg does a little cameo, he's in the trailer.

So I was just like all about that. And I remember we pulled up to this, I mean, I'm six, it was a long time, but it looked like a mini mall with like in front of a plate glass window and it was nighttime, Christmas. And we go in, there's a usher there taking the tickets and it felt like we were in an office building.

So we go in, there we go into the theater, there's a normal screening room, the whole thing. It's packed on Christmas. And we sit in and I sit down, 1980s, whatever, I go there. The movie comes up and it's a full-blown porno. And like three minutes goes by and I'm like, God, the Blues Brothers is awesome. And I hear my dad down at the end of the aisle calling my name, screaming at me.

And I get up and I stand up and I'm like realizing, I'm surrounded by a bunch of men in trench coats with mustaches and the whole thing. And I'm like trying to get by all the perverts who are like, you know, watching a movie in a public forum, a porno with on Christmas. For Christmas. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then we were in the lobby, my mother's screaming at the manager, we don't know what's going on. And years later, it's like this thing, decades go like, how did that happen? What were my, I mean, how were my parents oblivious to this?

What, how, why, Christmas? Did that really, is this something that I imagined or whatever? And I read last year in, it was Cinema Speculation, the Quentin Tarantino book. There was a guy who owned the Pussycat Theaters named Vincent something or other. And he had started opening up locations in residential neighborhoods and he got, people started, this caused a big uproar and they all finally settled that half of the rooms in his locations would show normal movies and half would be pornography.

And so that sort of verified, oh yeah, we were in a situation like that where we missed the right screening room. And so that was one family trip that made it like, educational, I guess, I don't know. It does, I mean, that's a pretty young age to see the Blues Brothers. I always say that our parents introduced us to that same era of film and comedy at very age-inappropriate times. Yeah.

Were you that kind of family? Because I mean, we were. Yeah, I mean, because I think our parents grew up when going to the movies was safe. That was like in the 60s, or early 60s I should say, and 50s, this was like something that the whole family could do. And then the 70s came. So I think that that was, they didn't really have, the mean, the notion of censorship. Well, I mean, I guess it really did apply.

And so movies and studios followed that code. I don't, so I think that that was, yeah, I mean, I remember I saw Jaws and I saw, I mean, we went to, they just loved movies and it was just something that, you know, I guess not until my generation, we started really, you know, obviously protecting our kids. I remember our mom would sometimes,

like if there was nudity, she'd like put a hand. I know. It was a little, it was a bit of a soft hand. It took credit to our mom who was always like, okay, I'll split the fingers a little bit. Yeah. I'm not gonna be. Yeah.

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also when I was a teenager, but I think in college, I forget when Titanic came out, but Mom and I snuck beers into Titanic at the Bedford Mall. Oh, awesome. Wow, your mom sounds pretty cool. Yeah, she's definitely, she's very cool. Yeah, wow.

We've told this, I think we've told this story before, but you are familiar with the film Spanking the Monkey, do you remember? Oh yeah, of course, yeah. You are aware of the plot of the film, you remember it? Yeah, vaguely, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I saw it, and at the time I thought it was a really cool

indie movie, and I called Josh and asked him if he'd seen it, and do you want to say what you said, Josh? I said I loved it, and you said you didn't love it. Yeah, because I went down to Blockbuster and I had heard that this cool indie movie had come out and I didn't know anything about it. I like to go in blind, we've already established that. So I rented it and I came home and I was like,

hey mom, you wanna watch this movie? Amazing, yeah. And we turned it off very quickly. You're not the only one I've heard that story from. I think actually two other people have said that they watched that movie with their mother. It just- Yeah, we didn't finish it.

I'll say that. Yeah, let's just turn it off. Yeah, I don't know if I really like this. I'm getting tired. I've never met David O'Russell, but I look forward to it. I mean, I sure over the years, he's heard that so many times. Yeah.

Like put a warning on it. Yeah, exactly. What an incredible filmmaker though. I mean, it's just like one of my favorites. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Excuse you guys, I'm gonna sneeze. Whoa. Seth once sneezed on his show

when he had David Ortiz on the baseball player and David Ortiz laughed so hard because Seth was trying not to sneeze for so long. I mean, you know, I interview people all the time and, you know, I've done an incredible job of fighting off sneezes multiple times. And one time I just thought I was through and I sneezed, just cracked one right in the face of... In this day and age, right?

Wow. Oh, cool. What are you gonna give? You mentioned that your younger sister was like a triplet. And I feel like when you're twins, there's two paths forward, which is either to always remind the other siblings there on the outside looking in, or to be what it seems like you were,

which was welcoming. Were the three of you always super close? I think so, yeah. I mean, we grew up, you know, my parents, the first thing that I think was, we really I mean, we grew up, you know, my parents, the first thing that I think we really tight family, you know, half of that is a Sicilian mentality that, you know, the traditional thing. And then the other half is just they were hippies and really inclusive and sort of, we just, you know just talked about everything.

And so we were really close and we still are. And so, yeah, I guess I think though that there's definitely a bond between myself and my twin sister that is just a specific thing with twins. I don't know what, you know, evolving in the womb together, I guess. Do you guys have other siblings or is it just the two of you? No, it's just the two of us.

Okay, cool, yeah. So yeah, yeah, we were always really tight. And my twin sister got involved in acting. She was, she did that for a while. She was actually in Dazed and Confused and a bunch of other projects in the 90s. And then my younger sister also did that as well. There's a part of me,

like we all grew up during the advent of the blockbuster era. And so how do you avoid that being in Los Angeles? You know what I mean? And it was just like the industry is just surrounding you. It's just kind of like what you do. Did you feel, I mean, being a part of that industry at such a young age, did you feel, when you look back,

do you think, oh, I was jaded, I didn't have a normal childhood? Because it also feels like your parents made a very sort of warm and inviting home, so maybe you didn't have that feeling. Very much so, yeah. I mean, again, it was like a nine-year-old decision that after seeing Star Wars,

which I think was my first movie and Steven Spielberg and Indiana Jones and all that, it just became this thing that I was drawn to. And then at a certain point after the first week of your first time being on a set, you're like, oh, right, adult responsibilities and all of that. And, you know, a schedule and you have to be, you know, you have to go to work, you don't have an option, it's too expensive and all of that.

And so I guess at a certain point, the sort of Hollywood dream became a responsibility. And growing up, we didn't have a lot of money. And so part of that was supporting the family or augmenting that support. And then, yeah, I think it's a career that you do that became something that, for me, again, it was, I just, I became an obligation, something that I had to follow, and it was just earning a living, and it was something that I had to be grateful'm you know that I had to be grateful for I

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Yeah, I just want to get to bed. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Here we go. That's what it sounds like when you read to your kids. Yeah, I just want to get to bed. Hahahaha. Here we go. Having the trailer in your driveway now, did you travel like that when you were a kid? Did you guys have like an RV or something? A little bit, no. I mean, we had like a vintage Dodge Dart that barely worked that we would drive up to, because my father is from the Bay Area,

San Francisco, San Jose, and so we would drive up and do that. And occasionally we would go camping, but vague memories of that. I do have to say though that it was just like incredible. Obviously, no matter what you have, when you're doing that as a family that it was just like incredible. Obviously, no matter what you have, when you're doing that as a family, it's just like the best.

But there was nothing like, it was mainly just like going up and visiting the family. Right, so you had grandparents up there? Yeah, grandparents and my uncles and every other, yeah. I mean, that's where basically my Sicilian ancestors came and settled there and set up farms at the turn of the century. And then so it became this, I remember like the Christmases that we would have were hundreds of people. It felt like, you know, the canoles and all that.

Yeah. Did you ever take a trip back to Sicily with your parents? That's the dream. No, I mean, I lived in Italy, in Rome, in Tuscany for a little while. I've never been to Sicily though. And it's like, that's one of the trips that when the kids are old enough

that I want to do with my wife. But yeah, I mean, Sicily is, it's just like a completely different country from the rest of Italy, from what I understand. Do you speak Italian? I do a little bit, because for this project that I was doing a long time ago, I had to learn Italian,

and it was like monologues for, in about a month's time for this movie called Heaven that I did a long time ago. So that was me living there. Is that like Cate Blanchett? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a great movie. Cate Blanchett and Tom Taper.

Oh, you saw it? Oh, cool, yeah. It's a great movie, yeah. That was a hard one. You did speak a lot of Italian. I know. I was there. I'm very surprised you're not fluent in Italian

based on that movie. Yeah, not anymore. Just that dialogue. I can remember a couple of things. That was difficult. There's like, how's Giovanni's Italian? It's good, but it's just this one monologue. Yeah, just one, yeah.

And out of context, if you don't see the whole movie, it's really... Oh, I remember I was, you know, like two days working on this one, because I had to play an interpreter following Cate Blanchett's interrogation scene. So she's telling the story and I'm following along timing with her. And I remembered learning the Italian. And then she came when she arrived in Italy,

we were all in a meeting. She was like, yeah, that one, I just don't want it. And I was like two days of my life, like trying to remember, learn this Italian. And also learn it as if I was an Italian with the dialect and all that. And it's just crazy. I don't know what I was thinking.

Did you guys ever, do you remember as kids, like the first time you all went on a plane together? I do, the first time I went on a plane was actually for acting. I remember we were up in San Jose for Christmas and they needed me to come back. And so I was by myself, I think I was 10 years old and it was like, you know, the airlines will do that.

And then somebody met me. So that was exciting obviously always when you're a kid. And your parents obviously had a lot of confidence in you being able to, I mean, again, different era, right? We were, you know, you talk about guests that are our age and especially ones who are parents now and they kind of can't believe what their parents were okay with.

I feel like we're a little overprotective now. I mean, seat belts, you know, for instance, you know, that. Yeah, for instance. I agree, I think that I try to, as difficult as it is, and I guess the general zeitgeist is helicopter parenting, but really try to let my kids, you know, expose them to things, to what they're gonna be exposed to within, you know, within safety parameters.

We went, I was doing this stupid thing with my kids where I have this overhead, it's a light stand that hangs over, it's called a Max Menace arm. And I had this idea last week where I would shoot them hanging from a harness and try to erase the harness. And so, and do this thing with my wife. Where she was like oblivious to it.

And so we went to REI and got a harness and my son looked at me and he was like, I wanna go rock climbing, you know, cause he's seen a lot of Tom Cruise movies and that happens. And so we went to the rock climbing gym, which was amazing. It was a revelation.

I don't know if you guys have ever been to one of those. My fiance got me like a, you know, go try it out thing. And I keep getting injured before I sort of can go in there. And I just, I want to go in there when I'm like not injured to start. But yeah. I have a horrible fear of heights. Anyways, so they have these things

that are called automatic boules that are at the top of the wall. And this is like a 20 foot wall. And it was like one of these weird, where my son just, he's just like, this is who I am. This is what I wanna do. And within a half hour, he was like going to the top and doing this whole thing.

And it was, it's just, it hit me that I kind of, I kind of can't stop thinking about it. Going raw. It's really great. And I think it's funny that I was saying, yeah, it was a different era. Like you were so young when your parents took you to see the Blues Brothers and your kids are six

and they've seen a ton of Tom Cruise movies. Yeah, oh yeah, oh my God. Yeah. Mission Impossible, yeah. There was one point my daughter or she was like, I wanna watch Interstellar. We were like, wait. This is like, yeah.

But I don't know, I mean, this is something that, you know, it's something that I'm really passionate about making movies on both sides of the camera. And, you know, it's something that obviously that you can't avoid it. Your kids have a curiosity there too, so. Yeah. Do you think you're gonna have to get your son

and I guess all your kids out to Joshua Tree to climb around on those rocks and scramble around? Yeah, eventually, I don't know. I mean, the gym is just like, I think it's the, you know, the automatic boule because you can hang off and it's like, but terrifying. I mean, like, it's just like, you know, like this is going to be the one time that it just doesn't work or whatever. And you are, you're 20 feet, but worth it. It's really, I actually, I was so 20 feet, but worth it. It's really, I actually, I was so excited about the whole experience and almost,

I could you not emotional when my son got to the thing. There was another father and his kid and his kid was trying to get up and I was so enthusiastic. I was trying to help the kid, you know, like just put your foot on this thing and do it. And I made him cry. It was terrible.

Yeah. I got really embarrassed. My wife and I had to leave. It's such a fine line. I know. It was terrible. Because you don't want your kids to see your fear. And I have so many fears.

And so you're trying to like suppress them. But at the same time, sometimes you push them too hard or you push someone else's child too hard. Right. Yeah, exactly. That was terrible. I feel awful about that. There's a, this is so off tangent, but I once saw Steve Martin and Marty Short on stage

at like a charity event, and they were doing this bit where they complement each other, but the compliments are all insults. And Marty goes, you know what I like about you, Steve? You're not afraid to yell at someone else's kid. Right. I know, yeah. We always like to shock babysitters or people who come over when we're going to go like on date night

and like, hey, don't worry about it. We're hitters, you know? So go right ahead and just, you know, it's terrible. Do your worst. Yeah, exactly. They won't even remember it. Yeah, they won't remember it. So when you would go spend time with your sort of

extended family up in the Bay Area, you know, you say like a hundred people, so there's gotta be a lot of kids. Would you go off with sort of cousins and- Sometimes, yeah, no, but I remember they're actually, everybody, I mean, it was mainly my sisters and me and there were, we did have cousins, but we were the way, so my uncles are a lot younger than my father,

so they didn't have kids yet. And so it was just like, so we were pretty much, yeah, the only kids there. And everybody else was 90 years old or, you know. Gotcha. Yeah, but yeah, my grandfather had nine siblings and he was also the youngest. So just the math works that where we were pretty much just running around looking up

and eating cannolis. And what is the what kind of farms were we talking when you was it farm life when you would go up to the Bay Area to see your grandparents? It had kind of dissipated by then. But the it was, you know, apricots and cherries mainly and I hear almonds. But I think apparently it was like, they were kind of like a big presence there. The DeSalvo, which was my grandmother's side of the family,

shipping company, we'd see trucks occasionally and all that. But I think it was mainly just like the mentality and the sort of the sense of family and the work ethic. I'm actually, the Italian part of me is like, I'm more Irish and I think Jewish than I am Italian, but it's like vampire blood, you know? Like it's like the thing for, you know,

that kind of takes over and you know, my father is like the traditional thing. You've mentioned cannolis a couple of times. What are we talking about? When you're at Christmas and there's cannolis out, is it what I'm picturing? Is it like piled high, multi-tiered cannolis on a plate? Oh yeah, and everything is custom, everything, you know,

like the ricotta, everything. I remember them laying it out and then they would make ravioli and it was just like the way it was, it was just so much, it was just, it was just, I mean, it's truly like just like a different universe from what you experienced today and what it all meant.

I mean, it wasn't necessarily a religious thing as much as it was just everybody coming together and immigrants coming together, like the generation from the... Did you guys like during the holiday season, what was life like with you guys? It was all a home game. We almost never went anywhere.

Oh really? Yeah. It was smaller, it was like just the immediate family. We would have some of my aunts and uncles on my mom's side would sometimes join our grandmother. We were pretty tight for. When you say that's cool. Sometimes dads, our father's mother and her sister

would come, grandma and BB would come for a lot of holidays. They were so old. I remember about my grandmother and my great aunt. They were so old, they were, I remember about my grandmother and my great aunt, they were so old the day I met them, and that when they would visit, I feel half the trip was letting, was holding their arm while you walked them down the steps. Down the steps to the bathroom, right.

Or just, no, it's like they would park the car, and you know, we grew up in New Hampshire, and so Christmas, it was just like, everything was icy. Oh, wow. And so it was just the amount of like gentle, slow walking while they're, what felt like an old hawks talon, just like grabbing your elbow.

That have a good grip on you. That are real good grip. That are real good grip. And you're trying not to cry. Yeah, amazing. Wow. So it was, I have a question. So you, obviously you have this connection

with your twin sister. Did you, I have a question. So you, obviously you have this connection with your twin sister. Did you, I know obviously the odds are higher for a twin to have a twin. How did you feel when you found out you were gonna have them? Well, we did IVF. Okay, gotcha. Okay, so that might've been more of it

than the history of twins. Yeah, and so we were trying to get ready for a while and then we just decided to do that. It's crazy that whole thing. I mean, I don't know. Yes, I know people have been on that journey and it must be amazing to be on the other side of it. It really is.

But there's incredible things about it. Like at first you're like, no, I don't want to make any pre-decisions, I just want this to be as natural as possible until they show you what is essentially like a menu of like, here's your child. And then you start going, ah, okay, fine, we'll settle on. And then, you know, at a certain point.

Yeah, we'll get the mashed potatoes. We know we like mashed potatoes. Everybody likes it. Yeah, right, exactly. But still, it know we like mashed potatoes. Everybody likes it. Right, exactly. But still, it really is, I mean, it's the, I feel like it's the genesis of religion. It's just the most incredible thing regardless,

having done naturally or IVF, it's the best thing. And do you feel, do you see that connection with them? Do you think, oh, do you see in them what you had? Well, yeah, I mean, because they essentially, the majority of their life has been experienced through the COVID era, where there wasn't, and so we were all kind of cooped up together. And you see there's definitely more than just a bond, there's like two halves of a whole, I mean, beyond twins, it's just, you know,

and I personally love that. I think that, you know, I have a similar thing with my siblings and I think that having that person in your life for the rest of your life, hopefully, is invaluable. I'm sure you guys seem to have that kind of relationship. Yeah. We really did.

And we never even realized we could turn it into a podcast. So obviously we're living our best life. It just keeps getting better. Everybody's life is just going towards a podcast. You just realize we're all, yeah, you don't even know it, Giovanni, but that's in your future. Right, yeah. Good, okay, good deal, wow.

Did you do any sort of COVID getaways, just we gotta get out of the house, let's go somewhere in the thick of it? Yeah, I mean, so we actually, yes. My wife was out of town. She sent me actually a link to this one property and I had some money in my pocket at the time. And so the next day I was literally driving up to Marin

where it is and two weeks later we had bought this. I mean, it was as our neighbor says, you bought a pig with lipstick, you know? It was like, this is such a great deal. And it turned into something else. But you know, it was a little piece of land. And so that kind of became the project for us. And they're actually-

You were probably just so happy it wasn't next to a power plant. You're like, wow. Yeah, exactly. Well, we don't know actually where we are. But yeah, it became a project for us. And then also just, you know, sort of an escape from all the other craziness

and all the insanity that was going on with everybody, myself included, during that time, you know. And so it's farm life. They're up there right now, actually. I'm gonna go meet with them. Oh, that's great. Do the kids, do you find that the kids are preferring it

to being in Los Angeles? It's like Huckleberry Finn, you know, they walk in with like salamanders that are that big, like, hey, hello, like, I don't know what this, I wanna get that snake away from me. You know, it's not a snake. And yeah, it's, you know, like there was at one point, the plumber came over, he said, your leech line is broken.

I said, well, what's a leech line? And he told me, and I was like, so when you flush, it just doesn't, doesn't just magically go away. And so then, yeah, like getting into all of that stuff. It's just like amazing. I bought a tractor with, you know, moving dirt around. Yeah. Yeah, that's it.

Living your best life. Yeah, I guess so. I don't know. I'm very, very excited to see Strange Darling. And it is fun to say to everybody who's listening, it's got great reviews and know as little about it as possible. It comes out August 23rd. Thank you so much. A theatrical release. It is fun to say to everybody who's listening, it's got great reviews and know as little about it as possible.

It comes out August 23rd. Thank you so much. A theatrical release. And would you say this is, make a case, see it in the theaters, right? Oh my God. Well, that's part of the whole journey of this movie. I think one of the big things for the director and myself, we really just wanted to try to do something

that didn't end up in the iTunes graveyard. Yeah, of course. And at a certain point, it just seemed like it was beyond inevitable that it wasn't even gonna do that. And we had kind of like, it was just a long story. But it's really amazing. They went into the editing room and they kind of like birthed this thing that now people are responding to.

And I guess it's coming out in theaters August 23rd. I'm hearing like 1500 screens or something like that. Oh, it's fantastic. I can't believe it. I can't believe, I know. And in terms of like comedy or thriller horror, like do yourself a favor, the opening weekend, that you can't like a comedy, the laughs

in a group of people is just better and a thriller horror to have good screams, good tension, the more people, the better. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, it's good.

I've seen it quite a few times now, and I'm just really proud. I've never been more proud of anything. So yeah, thank you. Well, congrats on that. Before we let you go, Giovanni, Josh is gonna ask you the questions we ask all of our guests.

Uh-oh. Speed round. Here we go. All right, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Definitely educational. All right.

What is your favorite means of transportation? Train, plane, automobile, boat, bike, on foot, something else. Bike, bicycle. Very good. I actually, I'm like in the middle, you know, my midlife, I guess, I don't know if you guys, so I bought a fancy bike recently,

and I'm just bicycle. Is it a road bike? It I bought a fancy bike recently. And I'm just bicycle. Is it a road bike? It's called a gravel bike, but it's, yeah. It's electric and it's, I just, I mean, it's just like a revelation. Another, you know, yeah, midlife crisis. That's just. Well, good luck with that.

Thank you. By the way, it is very nice. It's very nice when you know it's the midlife crisis. Yeah. Yeah. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a family vacation with? Oh my God. I mean, there's so many. I guess, I mean, the first is the Kennedys for some reason.

You know, I don't know. Just because it would be, the daiquiris would be amazing. 100%, maybe the best. You might never be able to have another daiquiri. Yeah, the wardrobe would probably be pretty on point. Yeah, incredible. You might learn that thing of like, I think if by the end of that,

I might have the confidence to wear a sweater around my shoulders. Sure. And a turtle neck, yeah. Yeah. Tell me. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?

Oh, wow. I can't even answer that. I don't even know. I would, because everybody, if I did answer that, then I would be shot and killed tomorrow. Now that's, now we're really seeing the Sicilian roots. Exactly. That's it.

Well, I'm just gonna take that. Never name a family member on a podcast. Yeah. I'm gonna assume that means that your twin knows, of course it would be her, but you don't have to say it out loud because you have a weird connection. Yeah, that's it.

And you're from Los Angeles, Los Angeles is hometown? Born and raised, yeah. Would you recommend Los Angeles as a vacation destination? No, not at all. I mean, a place to live, yeah, I think it's interesting. I think, you know, it gets, it's underrated, I think. But, you know, we have a lot here, obviously, but I think that as a vacation spot, I don't know.

I mean, but it's hard for me because I'm here all the time. So what's the vacation here? Yeah, I have sort of like a list of recommendations that I give people. And I feel like people just, people try to do too much that's too far afield when they come to Los Angeles. They're like, they're staying in North Hollywood

and they're like, I'm gonna go to Manhattan beach today. And it's like, oh no, you don't do that. Like that's not what you do. But I mean, the other thing is like, what are you gonna do? Like Disneyland or Universal Studios? I don't know. I mean, maybe, I actually said something recently

because Disneyland, I'm not a Disneyland person. I mean, I like, you know, whatever. And I said that to somebody who is almost like this biker guy and he was like, what? You don't like Disneyland? And it became this like really strange thing. But yeah, I know exactly. I actually grew up in North Hollywood

and no, I don't think I've ever been to Manhattan Beach. Yeah. Yeah. And Seth has our final questions. Chiavani, have you ever been to the Grand Canyon? No, I haven't. Do you want to go? A thousand percent.

It's a bit, I was just in Zion. And that, I mean, I mean, that was my first thought. I was like, this is great, but I gotta go to the Grand Canyon. Always like greener grass, even in Zion National Park. It is a fun idea to just, don't blow it. I do think the way you approach this, Mart, if you think you're gonna like canyons in general,

don't blow it by going to the biggest one first. I know. That's right. Build up to it. Work your way up. No one at the Grand Canyon is like, I gotta go see the littler ones. I know, that's right. No, yeah, yeah, cool. All right, good to know.

All right, well, hey, thanks so much. Congrats on the movie. Can't wait to see it. Great talking to you, man. Yeah, this was my first podcast, so. Well, you're a pro. Devergenize. Our phone's gonna be ringing off the hook.

Oh, Jesus. All right. All right. Bye, Jim. Thank you, Jim're proud. The phone's gonna be ringing off the hook. Oh, Jesus. All right. All right. Bye, dude. Bye. Thanks, all right. See you, bye. ["Holiday Song"] Houston to Christmas in the Bay Area

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