Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - HAIM Sang Cheesecake, Cheesecake, Cheesecake

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

Our first podcast with siblings is with the one and only, the band HAIM! Sisters Danielle, Este, and Alana take Seth and Josh through their childhood days when they were in the family band, Rockinhaim, their love for growing up in Sherman Oaks, CA, what it was like playing SNL, Alana getting lost, the infamous dingle dangle earrings, and so much more! Thanks again to Nissan for sponsoring this episode of Family Trips and for the reminder to find your more. Learn more at NissanUSA.com. Thank you to McDonalds for supporting this episode. McDonalds is 'Now Serving.' Much more than orders.

This episode of Family Trips is brought to you by Nissan. Whether you want more adventure, more electric, more action, more guts, or more turbocharged excitement, Nissan is here to make sure you get it. Learn more at NissanUSA.com. Hi, Pashi. Hi, Sufi. So you and I, obviously, our listeners, know this at this point. We're two. We're one of two, right? We're a pair of siblings.

That's correct. There's no more of us. Nope. And I had such a full life with you as my sibling that when I had kids, I really thought two's the perfect number. That was absolutely my plan. Yeah. We had two boys, and I think we mentioned this before. Our boys are exactly the same amount of time apart in age

that you and i are two years and 11 days yeah yeah shocking coincidence and so i just thought you know what this is good this is all this is all you need and then uh what do you know uh we decide to have a third kid i think we had a third kid because of the pandemic maybe maybe and yet today i mean as we record this, today is her birthday. Yeah. Our little girl, Addie, is two years old. And I think the pandemic was the reason that we had a third because, you know, we spent so much time, just the four of us during the pandemic, and we enjoyed our kid's company so much. And we thought, you know what? Let's roll the dice. Let's see if we get a girl and we got a girl.

And yeah, she's two years old. And what an addition to the family. And the reason I'm bringing all this up, I never thought that I have three, but our guests today are threesome. And I feel like if I'd known them when I was a kid, if I had known the Haim girls, I would have said three is the way to go.

Oh yeah, you would have been jealous at two. Yeah. Yeah. It does feel like a sort of a, an equation that has just worked out perfectly for these girls, these women, these women, these women,

right. They are women. Yeah. You know, we had this fear, like, could you interview three people at once or is that going to be too many people?

And they are like one, one entity, the way they share focus and the way they obviously love each other and adorably bust on one another. And it truly was one of my favorite episodes getting to talk to three of them at once. Yeah, I will say also, I saw them at the Hollywood Bowl not so long ago, and I had a couple tickets and person that was going to go with me had to bail last minute and I went alone. And they're younger than us. And I felt like, am I going to feel old? Am I going to feel weird being like the old guy at a highim show. And their warm-up music, which I feel like they're responsible for, was perfect for me. And I bumped into another dude who had a similar fear. And he was like, all this warm-up music, it's for us. I feel like the kids that listen to Haim won't know this stuff and have more respect than I had for them prior to that show because of that. And they were great. They put on a rock and roll show. I would like to dig into this idea that someone can just bail on my brother who gives them tickets to a high-end concert.

Who bailed on you? I think my fiance probably had some work. Oh, so your fiance bailed on you. I thought it was a friend. Okay, gotcha. No, and then I sort of like reached out to people. But it's tough to be like, hey, it's 7 o'clock. do you want to go to an eight o'clock show at the bowl people are i don't know i feel like your fiancee should have given you more of a heads up look i went

alone and i was delighted i don't i don't you you go to way more concerts than i do yeah how many concerts do you think you go to in a normal year? Oh, I don't know. Like I buy so many tickets. I buy tickets the second they come on sale. And then I will tell Mackenzie, I'm like, oh, we have like three shows this week. And she's like, what? Like I can't. She works so hard. And I really, I tip my hat to her for rallying to go to a lot of these shows. But I probably go to 20 to 30 shows, probably 30 shows a year.

That's amazing. Yeah, I like it. I've always loved going to plays. And for a while, I sort of wasn't that into live music, but I don't know. There's something about people performing. There's something about being in a theater or just at a venue and just seeing someone live in front of you performing that I get very emotional. Yeah. I really appreciate it. Ask me how many concerts I went to last year. How many concerts did you go to last year? I haven't gone to zero.

Zero concerts? I think zero concerts. I love music and I love doing something else while I'm listening to it. When I was at your house last, the only music I heard was music that I played from my little speaker. Yeah. There was no music playing at your house.

Let's be honest. Here's where I like music, when I'm running. So I like listening to music, but that's about it. And then when I'm at home, I don't actually like music being on in the house. Okay. Because it makes it harder for me to think and you know me I'm always thinking you sure are

always trying to come up with my next scheme well we really had a great time talking to the Haim sisters and we really hope you enjoy it but speaking of great music here's Jeff Tweedy with a jingle is it a jingle. It's a theme. Family

trips with the Myers brothers. Family trips with the Myers brothers. Here it goes. Oh, hello! is good here we go oh hello

hello hello oh my god this is what what a call a thrilling day for us what a thrill

what a thrill look What a thrill. Look, is this our first podcast? No, it's not. But is this our first podcast with multiple guests? It sure is. That sounds true. No way. Actually?

Really? You guys haven't had other siblings? We haven't gotten into the other sibling game yet. Damn. And then a lot of people said, if you do it, you got to start with two. Don't jump to three. No, there's a lot of perspectives that are going to be shared on this Zoom call,

on this podcast. Great, yeah. First of all, let me say how incredibly unbranded it is that all three of you are in the same room as opposed to three different laptops. Well, me and Danielle live together and FD lives five minutes away. So we really have not cut the umbilical cord.

We truly, I don't know if we ever will. I feel like a lot of people we've talked to live like next door to their parents or like just down the street and that you guys are- Yeah, it's very my big fat Greek wedding in this family. Well, I did that like when when, like when I first, when I came back from my first tour, I was like,

I need to get my own place. And I was like, but I don't want to be away from my parents. Like I love my parents. And I got an apartment walking distance from my parents' house. Cause I was like, what? I just want to be able to get,

if they need me, if they need like the wifi password, I'm fucking there. Let's go. And do your parents appreciate how special it is that you uh can't get away from them no no they don't it's never enough they actually like every time my dad calls me i talk to my parents at least five times a day and every single time my dad calls me he always goes like hello stranger yeah oh you're calling me what i'm like dad what do you mean another life i literally

talked to you like an hour ago what do you mean he's like no it's fine it's fine i'm like there's no we can't do any like there's no never enough it's never when i i mean when i came back i mean this is also very much on on brand with this podcast The first time I got back from a tour, we were on tour for literally like three years straight and we were exhausted to the point where like, I didn't have the mental capacity to figure out vacations. Like I was just like, I don't know what, I don't know what to do. Oh my God, this is bad. And I called my mom and I was like, mom, I really need to go on like a retreat or something where like I can detox. And my mom was like, leave it with me.

Leave it with me. I got you. And my mother went on Groupon. Yeah. And found a retreat. I think she literally just looked up like detox retreat. And I am so trusting of my parents. Big mistake. I didn't even, I was okay mom where is it she's like oh hi and i was like this sounds legit yeah yeah oh hi we love oh hi it's chic very chic i pull up to this retreat my mother

drives me she's so proud of herself she's like have the best time i have my bags i'm ready to go i walk in there's a waft a smell of metamucil i approach the check-in desk peppered with readers. Peppered. And I'm looking around and I'm like, I am definitely the youngest person here by 70 years. My mother signed me up for a geriatric wellness retreat. Oh, wow. So I was there with Pearlie and Gertrude, my two best friends that I made. You guys still keep in touch?

Still keep in touch. What were the classes? There was water ballet. And the theme of the water ballet class that I took was Disney. So it was like water ballet to Beauty and the Beast. There was a Fosse dance class. to Beauty and the Beast, there was a Fosse dance class.

And the instructor was like, if the hip movements are too much, like take it easy. Yeah, I'd be worried about the wrists. Yeah, the wrists and the hips, the gyrations. Sure. Yeah, will never entrust my mother to.

It sounds like less of a retreat and more of an end of life facility you said it not me now when you said when your mom said have fun does this mean she dropped you off at your own retreat yes i feel like in my mind you like mom dropped you off and you were like mom don't come inside with me because i don't want i don't want to look uncool i don't want my friends i don't need i don't want like the coolool. I don't want my friends. I don't need my friends. I don't want the cool, young, oh-hi, like, patrons of this place are going to see me with my mom. With their caftans. And instead, it was literally just walkers.

And, you know, with, like, tennis balls on the bottom. Did you share, maybe, your disappointment with your mom after the fact? Or do you not have that sort of... Nope. Did not want to do that to my mother. How long of a retreat was this? I stayed stayed for like four days i stayed for four days well because there was like a deal on groupon that if you stayed for two days you got like one for free another one for free so i stayed so i stayed it was great i had actually had an

amazing time the water ballet class was so fun. And I did make really great friends. Essie did make really good friends. I've seen them. We've seen the emails. We've seen the emails. Well, that's good that they can still email. Every time we're in the newspaper, they send us a nice note. Literally, they'll be like, I'll get in the Tennessee Times

because Pearlie lives in Nashville. She'll be like, the review of your show at Moody Am... Or, like, wherever we played. Has Pearlie come out to a show? Has she come? Has she... Pearlie lives vicariously through the Tennessee Times.

She... Through the reviews. That's her concert. Yeah, that was her concert. So, all right. Obviously, this is going to be very special talking about your parents they're off to a great start and let me say we've already done an episode where we had our parents on as guests and based on how this is going we might ask to have your parents on one day because i feel like

they're gonna have a lot to say also my dad loves you so much so much it's almost uncomfortable he like re-watches when when when i went on to promote licorice pizza he watches that episode all the time he was very very proud of me that i got to get onto your show and he's also proud of us that we got to get on your show but he's i know but i do want all three of you in person because when i had all of you guys, it was via Zoom COVID times. I know. It was Zoom. It was like this. Get us on the show, Seth. There's no show right now. There's no show to be had.

When the show starts again. I know. I know the strike. I insist upon it. When we come back and do the show in person, we will bring my parents. We'll have them sit on the couch with us and it'll be... It'll be a rockin' high. That's my dad's dream my dad has never been i mean obviously has never been on the couch of a late night there's no reason for him to do that but if he ever did that he would die now can i ask a question if we

said to your parents you can come out with your daughters but you're not allowed to talk would they manage that would they be able to sit there in silence? Oh, yeah. I think they would, but my dad would be like, uh, uh, yeah, but uh, uh. Yeah, it would be like sign language. Yeah, he would want to, but no, they totally. He'd be like talking with his hands very much. It'd be great to take the cuffs off of him halfway through and be like, you know what, actually, you can talk

and just to see what spills out of him. Release the hounds. Release the hounds motif. And now your daughters are not allowed to talk. Do your worst. Oh, there we go. That's his dream. We should do it. We should do it.

That is his dream. Your parents, I feel like your parents have wonderful names. What are your parents' names? Moti and Donna. Moti and Donna. My dad, his favorite thing is every time he meets somebody, he says, did you see licorice pizza? Literally.

That's his calling card. it used to be it used to be do you know my daughter is the band hyam and and because he's a very proud father and it was like you know that was like his calling card and now he's just now he's a star well that's the thing it's because he's in the movie he's in the movie and he's like have you seen licorice pizza i am the dad in licorice pizza like he doesn't even say my daughter's in Licorice Pizza. He goes, I'm in it. Dad is very proud to the point where he solely wears our merch. He only wears our merch.

He only wears our merch out. But also, we're very, very into merch for birthday parties. I think it's like the best party favor to commemorate a birthday is like you have a t-shirt. And for Alana's 20, what was it? My 25th birthday. Fifth birthday.

It was a big one. I made a t-shirt that had Alana's like baby photo on the front. And on the back it said, happy fucking birthday baby Haim. Cause that's, she's the baby yeah and my dad wears it

all the time my dad wears it to like the gym like he wears it out like going to get groceries and stuff like he has it he my dad my dad called me my no my mom called me he was like your father your father is just you know he's a little bent out of shape he had an interaction with someone at the gym today and he doesn't understand why this woman was so upset that he had a t-shirt on that said happy fucking birthday baby hi i'm and a picture of a child and my dad was like it's my daughter what is the big deal he got like a complaint like he got like a demerit at the gym because he wore like my face on his t-shirt and he got so upset like he was like it's my daughter and he like couldn't because it's like a baby picture of me so you can't like prove that it's me yeah but he was very upset that day but he's very proud he's very proud

we have very proud parents as well i've told this story but often when we're doing our show i will be told oh friends of your dad are here and they want to say hi afterwards or he wants you to say hi to them afterwards and so i'll go backstage and i'll talk to whoever it is and then at some point i'll say how do you know my dad and i cannot tell you how often the answer will be oh i was changing next to him in the locker room at a country club, and he told me you were his son and asked me if I ever wanted to go to the show. Oh, I love that. They're not really his friends.

It's just he thinks he's doing me a favor of getting someone to come to my show. But then I have to stay after and basically do a meet and greet with people that barely know my dad. That. But then I have to stay after and basically do a meet and greet with people that barely know my dad. That's so sweet, though. That's so cute. When it's over, I've talked to them

way more than he ever has. I love it. I love it. What's your dad's name? Larry. Larry. He's a Larry, too. Is it Lawrence or Larry?

It's Lawrence, yeah. Yeah. Lawrence Myers, Jr. Larry and Moti need their It's Lawrence. Yeah. Yeah. Lawrence Myers Jr. Larry and Moti need their own podcast. Oh my God. I think that this is, we're going to get my dad and your dad to do a podcast. My dad,

who's a descendant of Lithuanian Jews, but the best thing is that my oldest, who's now seven, couldn't say grandpa. And the way he said grandpa was Ponca. And so he calls my dad Ponca Yerry, which sounds, it's just a kid's inability to say a word. It sounds very Eastern European old world. Like every village had a Ponca Yerry. Yeah. That is so cute. We had a pop-up. Yeah, we had a pop-up.

We called her a pop-up Joe. A pop-up and a tootsie because my grandpa called my grandma toots. We had a toots. Our grandmother was toots and our mom called her grandfather pop-up. Yeah, so look at that. Oh my God. Are we related? I don't know.

We might be. Are we related? It's possible. That would actually be the best news ever. We have a dog named Frisbee who's getting up there in age. And I have said since, if we get another girl dog, I thought Toots would be a good name for it. I think that saying Toots brings me happiness.

It does. But also like when you call the dog being like, come on, Toots. Yeah. I've got a friend out here, my buddy Clay and Elizabeth. They've got a toots dog she's sweet, she's great, good dog well that's the other thing, if I have a dog I want to call it grandpa

so I can be like, come on grandpa grandpa's a really funny name for a dog St. Bernard in my neighborhood who's like maybe three years old and her name is Nana, which is great Nana, like from Peter Pan Nana in my neighborhood who's like maybe three years old and her name is nana which is great that's nana like from peter pan oh yeah yeah all right if you had a dog named grandpa you and people

asked how you came up with it you should just say oh it's reincarnated yeah come on grandpa damn that hit that tickled me i know from your biography and haven't talked to you before i know that you guys were part of a family band yes at a very young age with your both parents with both of my parents yeah or our parents fuck can we put this in the road trip category did you travel to do well actually this is like a crazy thing that happened so before rockin hyam which was the name of our family band it was rockin with an apostrophe hyam no g no g drop the g g's are not cool yeah rockin rockin my parents were in a band with another couple called well first they were called the mommies and the daddies like mamas and the papas gotcha but i guess they weren't getting a lot of like bookings

with mommies and the daddies so they changed the name to boomerang because the hits are coming back they're strictly this was strictly a cover band cover band my parents were always in cover band they never wrote music no never wrote music it was like a fun thing where like they basically found another couple that played music and it was like their you know fun time like they would play in a band they basically started this cover band and just like they kind of started just playing like our school fair yeah school fair or school get-togethers music also the other couple had kids like we were friends with the kids so their gigs were at places where you were in the audience from the 100 and let me tell you i thought my parents were so cool oh that's so good that could have broke either way yeah i was old enough at the point to know that they weren't i

was like they're so cool as he was like this is not cool but um so like yeah like it started with like school functions and like charity events and stuff like that. And then I guess at one of their gigs was like a talent scout for Club Med. Do you remember Club Med? Of course. A lot of people don't know. So Club Med is like this for people that don't know what Club Med is. It's like an all-inclusive resort. It's kind of like sandals.

But it was like in the 90s. Well, there was a whole movie about Club Med. There was? Oh, I didn't know that. There was a movie called Club Med in the 90s. Well, there was a whole movie about Club Med. There was? Oh, I didn't know that. There was a movie called Club Med in the 80s. So if you don't know what Club Med is, I'm sure you've seen the Sinbad movie. I'm sure you've seen the movie Club Med. Yeah, everyone's seen that movie.

So basically, because we never really could afford going on extravagant vacations growing up. like could afford like going on like extravagant vacations growing up. Basically club med had tapped my parents, their band boomerang to be like the house band. And like as repayment, they would like fly us places. And we would be like the kids that were like the lifers at the club med. Like we would be there for like two months. Yeah.

Literally. And my parents and in their band boomerang would play like a three hour set every single night like they were the band and like we could run around the resort whatever um yeah but so so that was our vacation that was our vacation hack was like my parents basically yeah they worked for club med where were the locations two months where like i know that we did all over we did when we did we did two so it was there are club minutes everywhere but the two that we did because then by the then rock and heim started and we weren't doing any sort of like paid things but um we did extapa mexico which was super cool fun and then we did which is why i'm

telling this story this is like the i've actually never i've been wanting to tell this story so badly and i've never been able to tell the story and this is a perfect time to tell the story but we did copper mountain colorado ski resort ski resort it was like christmas time and we had really never been in in snow no no snow was like i mean we're valley girls like snow is like you see it in like a snow globe or like in a history book we were in a movie in technicolor um but we so we went to colorado and we the first day we show my parents um like we check in whatever my parents have orientation where they have to get like their badges and like they go through all the things of like you know because they're employees so like

they have to go through all this stuff whatever and when we had checked into the hotel i was i mean how old was i i was four no no i think five five i was like five years old. And my mom, right when we checked in, I really needed to pee. So she asked the person in the front, like, where's the closest bathroom? And the closest bathroom was in this like basement area. And so like I knew that that's where the bathroom was. Next day, orientation happens. My parents basically trust me enough as a five-year-old to stay in the lobby of this hotel so i was with another i was with the kid of the other couple yes and they were like okay

you guys are gonna it was like a 20 minute situation it was not like a all day it was like you're gonna sit in this lobby for 20 minutes we'll be right back and i was like cool really needed to pee again like really i don't know maybe i was like a nervous child really needed to pee esty over here i knew where our room was but it it to get to our room you had to go in an elevator and esty at a young age terrified me of elevators she'd be like you're gonna get an elevator and you're gonna get stuck in it true story so esty made me older sister vibes made me terrified of fucking elevators so i never went into the elevator so i was like oh my god i need to pee i know there's a bathroom in the

basement so i tell the other kid like i'll be right back and i leave and i go down to the basement as i'm walking to the bathroom a person opens the door for me. I go pee. I am washing my hands. I go to open the door of the bathroom and the door is so heavy that I can't open it. I am locked in this bathroom and no one knows where I am literally no one i didn't tell anybody where i was going i really needed to pee all of a sudden after 20 minutes my parents come and they see the other kid and they're like where's alana and he's like i don't know and they're like what do you mean you don't know and obviously before cell phones before anything i was also five right i was locked in this bathroom for three hours no we could not

find we could not find alana could not find alana for three hours like the police came everyone thought that i clubbed police like everyone thought that i was gone and like it was this whole thing and when the police came they like told my they asked my mom like can you go through all the steps of your day like see like where were you yesterday where did you take her whatever and after three hours like the last place they my mom thought i was like oh i took her to the bathroom in the basement and they went and i was like screaming bloody i was like this is my this is my new home i'm gonna live in this basement now like this is my new home but the worst part about this story is is now i'm 30 i'm about to be 32 years old to this day whenever i leave my dad tells esty like watch alana she gets lost i'm

32 years old to be fair that was not the last time that you got lost. I was the child that kind of got lost a lot. You got lost all the time. I got lost. Vegas? I got lost in Vegas. When you saw the arcade? I got distracted by an arcade and I got lost. In Vegas?

In Vegas. I did get lost a lot. I do say the first story, I don't think you were lost. I think you knew exactly where you were and you just couldn't open the door. The Vegas one sounds like you got lost. I couldn't think you were lost. I think you knew exactly where you were and you just couldn't open the door. The Vegas one sounds like you got lost. I couldn't open the door. But my parents, to this day, will tell that story and be like, the reason why we have gray hair is because of you.

They were like, you are the reason. And congratulations. But yeah, no, I've never been able to live that down. The strangest part, based on all the Club Med commercials I saw as a kid, because there were a lot of Club Med commercials, and I will say they were very butt forward. I feel like it featured a lot of running butts. They were very butt forward, yes.

And the one thing I never thought is that when you got to a Club Med and asked for the nearest bathroom that the answer was it's in the basement. That's not in the commercials. That's not like, we have the most beautiful basement bathrooms, big heavy doors. You're gonna love our heavy doors.

Club Med, where no one can hear you scream. Did you know right away? How quickly do you think until you started screaming? Like immediately. I was so terrified. And the thing is, now I'm terrified of it. Now it's like lasting trauma. I mean, this is like half a funny story,, but half a sad going through it in therapy.

Every time I have to go to the bathroom now and I'm at a dinner table, I tell 15 people, I'm like, just so everybody knows, I'm going to go pee. If I'm not back in five minutes, I am locked in this bathroom and get me the fuck out.

I can't. True or false, are you still scared to go to the bathroom by yourself when i'm in public yeah like i'm afraid that i'm gonna get locked in the stall and locked in the bathroom it's terrifying i was lasting trauma yeah lasting trauma but you know my sister-in-law has her lasting trauma story she tells a story about how her my father-in-law um she was misbehaving as a kid probably around that age and he um according to her he shut her in the basement for like 30 minutes and he has taken me aside and said i swear to god it was 15 to 20 seconds

it was 15 20 seconds and i've been paying for it ever since never never put your kids behind a door you're gonna pay for the rest of your life. I mean, I tend to agree. Well, now it's the opposite for me because I've just been paying for my mistake of going to the fucking bathroom for the rest of my life. My dad never lets me live it down. Did you guys feel like sort of the

children of rock stars when you were at the Club Med because your parents were the entertainment? I didn't feel that way. I feel like I did, but I was like super young. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. This episode of Family Trips is brought to you by Nissan. Posh, these days too many people have to settle

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All right. So Danielle, I feel like we haven't heard from you. Esty was over it. Alana's super into it. How did you feel? Did you think they were cool or lame or were you right down the middle? I thought they were cool.

I feel like I was pretty good at making friends at the kids club. You were really good at making friends. I will say, I was like- That Canadian girl, she was really sweet. I was like good at kind of like, I really loved the kids club and I feel like I was good at making friends. And the kids club was like a specific like place you would go? Yes.

But what was weird is I think for Copper Mountain, because it was when we were, when we went there for Christmas vacation, it was a month. It wasn't two months. I think was over summer. So we had like a good two months, but at Copper Mountain, I think it was like a two week.

People came for like two weeks. So you would like, there was a new kids club every two weeks. So like your friends would like, you made for the first two weeks would leave. And then you'd have to like make new friends make new friends right so that was that was kind of really good Danielle really thrived at it also I will say I am not into sports I like my dad like also would always call me a klutz like growing up and be like don't ever pick Danielle to play soccer like in the backyard she's

gonna suck literally and i will say i was the one that was really good at skiing i know without without no i got super into skiing i like totally flourished danielle was like like the head of kids club she thrived i thrived i thrived did you continue to ski as an adult or was it just no because we know just that brief window we never went on a vacation you know i will yeah i was terrified of kids club i had really crazy abandonment issues now i'm just realizing on this podcast my abandonment issues are really crazy but i like could not figure out how to do like pizza and french fry like it wasn't working for me like i don't understand and we played a gig in telluride yeah we played a gig in telluride um and this is a

couple years ago this is a couple years ago so now i'm like fully in adults and i like i've i've always been jealous of danielle because danielle's like naturally talented we're also very competitive one time dad was actually very proud of he was so proud of you we like had like a whole day i know believe that i was i know that anything it was your time to shine like wow surprise surprise danielle wow um yeah no and i was of course in my mind was like, I've never, it's like been eating away at both me and Esty that Danielle thrived at something. And we were like, no, we got to be better than her. You don't remember?

I ended up, I was like, I'm going to be super good at skiing too. And me and my mom went, cut to me hitting an icy patch, tumbling down the mountain. Remember this? Yeah. Tumbling down the mountain. My knee goes into my mouth. Yeah. My tooth goes through my lip.

Yeah. And then one of those fun ski mobiles with the flatbed in the back had to pick me up. I see. It's like a mummy. Like one of those people like a mummy. Literally. So I really wanted to be good at skiing. So I'm not.

So then cut to. Well, we went to tell you ride as like, as like we did play the gig and it was like a scissor trip. My parents were not there, but I was determined. I was like, I think I just was not old enough to understand. I'm going to get on these skis and I'm going to be exactly like how Danielle was when she was six. This is going to be the best trip ever.

We requested, I was like, I need a ski instructor person and we were like at the like chalet and i'll never forget like this like gorgeous man like comes into the like rental area and he's like i'm gonna be your snowboard instructor and i was like oh no we don't want to snowboard i want to ski and he goes oh i don't do that let me call my friend literally 20 minutes later this like cute girl comes in but she like comes in like a hurricane she the first thing she says she goes i'm super hungover um but let's go let's go ski but let's go ski and i was like oh okay and so we go ski we go like on a bunny hill again i cannot understand pizza for some reason the math is not mathing like i'm doing pizza i'm doing french fry nothing is working like when when french fry is

happening i'm at a full stop when pizza's happening i'm full fully going down the mountain it's also really funny because pizza and french fries are of course used because that's what children like and it's funny to me that you've reached an age where they could just say make them parallel or make them pointy yeah no they don't i will never say that i will say pizza and i was so bad at it to the point where like this girl was like i don't understand why you're not getting this and i was like i don't understand either and she goes you know what i think you should just go down a hill and like you're gonna figure it out and i was like you know what i think i'm gonna figure it out too we go she's like it's like a really it's like a really tiny hill like it's like very chill and i

was like i think i'm gonna figure this out i was like i'm gonna be like danielle when she was six like i'm just gonna get it it's gonna click mid, I'm going to be like Danielle when she was six. Like, I'm just going to get it. It's going to click midway through this trail. I love that a six-year-old girl is your idealized vision of where you want to get to when you're 30. I feel like she was really good. I feel like I was really good. Danielle, it is coming across. I don't want you to think it's not coming across. Like a childhood peekaboo street.

It was like she was a prodigy. Like it was crazy. And she was only there. We were on Club Med that long. And so I was like, I'm going to kill it. I started the back. There's like a line of us. It's like Danielle's in front, Esty, me.

By the way, spoiler, like I ended up sucking on this hill. You peaked at six. I peaked at six. Anyway, sorry, that's a spoiler. But basically, I'm at the very end of this line of our group. And no one told me that you're supposed to go side to side to not pick up speed. When I tell you, everyone is like gazelles down this mountain. I, again, am French frying now.

And French fry is working and French fry is working. French fry is happening, and I start at maybe five miles per hour. After like four minutes, four seconds, I'm going like what feels like a hundred miles per hour. Yeah, Alana's just speeding down this hill. I have passed

everyone in this crew. Now I'm alone on this mountain. I'm crying and tears are literally sticking to my face. Also, just so you know, there's like trees and obstacles like at every turn of this trail. It's like the most treacherous trail I've ever seen. And I finally make it to like the end of it. And everyone's like, are you okay? And I literally take off my goggles and my helmet and I to like the end of it and everyone's like are you okay and i and i literally take off i take off my goggles and my helmet and i'm like i'm done i can't i'm not

danielle when i when she was six i'm done i can't do it anymore the only thing that would have been worse is if you uh skied into a bathroom and the door had closed after you. I know. That was one of the obstacles. There were just bathrooms with doors wide open at every turn. It was just beckoning me to get locked in. It was just like Mario Kart. It was very much Mario Kart.

But I will never ski ever again. I'm not a ski gal. I don't know if any of us will ski again. I don't know. I'm still holding out. Danielle is still one day. Danielle's hoping it comes in waves. She has a hot year, a down year, another hot year.

And so Rock and I am is all five of you. Yes. And what year is, how old is the oldest of you? How old are you, Esty, when that started? I will say the end of Boomerang was at Copper Mountain. It was at Copper Mountain. It was at Copper Mountain. That was the demise. The demise.

They broke up. Oh, they had an actual breakup? Like on stage. They broke up on stage. No way. I know. Were you there at that show or no? No, because it was the New Year's show.

And we had to go to bed. We had to go to bed. In the biopic, this scene is really intense. What song were they covering when they broke up okay well okay this is kind of the crux i don't know how deep we can go in to this like i don't know if this dad want us basically my dad did not want to play heard it through the grapevine he really did not want to play that song he did not want to play that song he did not want to play the song he didn't want want to play that song. He did not want to play it. He didn't want to play the song. He didn't want to play it.

Not that he doesn't like the song. No. He just didn't feel like. He didn't feel like as a band, they did a good rendition of it. So he was like, I'm not going to stand up here and do a rendition of

Her Through the Grapevine and embarrass not only the person that sang the song, but ourselves. Because also probably the California Raisins were crushing it at that point. Already.

It's true. We can't beat those Raisins. We can't beat the Raisins were crushing it at that point. Already. It's true. We can't beat those Raisins. Can't beat the Raisins. Exactly. But this is a story. The crux of this story, though, is your dad is a man of integrity, right? He had a very high bar for what he thought boomers should be doing. High standards.

High standards. Lead singer of the band. Very adamant about playing. Heard it through the grapevine. Of course. It was a grapevine. Now, obviously, I'm going to guess that your dad does not sing with the accent you've given him every time he didn't he didn't sing he does sing but he never sang in our band so the lead singer made a audible to sing heard it

through the grapevine she basically was like let's do her through the grapevine five six seven eight and then everyone jumped in and my dad was like boom like it starts with like a high yeah and he was like oh he was like what i i she said five six seven eight i'm a professional when you say five six seven eight i'm gonna put it i'm gonna start playing the song and he was just really bummed out that they played her through the grapevine so then after that you can hear how reluctant a hi-hat is when the play. Yeah, when you don't want to do it. Just when you don't want to play it, you can tell.

You can tell. And that was the day that Boomerang broke up. But then I think a year later, my dad notoriously had a dream that he woke my. How Rockenheim started was, was again in the biopic, another very big scene in our life. My dad woke up from a dream that he had and he like woke up my mom and was like, I just had a dream that we have a band with the kids.

And, and then the next day bought us all instruments. And then we started playing in Rockenheim again, never like, we never went to like, we never, we never made it to club med. Let me tell you. Again, never like, we never went the like, we never made it to Club Med, let me tell you. We only played like

our school functions and like charity events. But he had the dream before you guys were playing instruments. He had a dream. Like Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. We played, like our parents did. Our dads, we all played drums. The drums was like the first instrument.

My dad, we always had a drum set in the living room. And he put us on the drums as kids, as like little kids. Like I think I was two. And my mom would always, like we always had instruments around. Like my mom would always teach us chords and stuff like that. But like it was never a thing that we were like all getting together and like learning songs. It was like my dad would stick us on the drums. We would like play a little bit.

My mom would like teach us little songs like beetle songs on guitar what we really needed was a pa right it's true we needed a dad found one dad found on a recycler yeah before craigslist yeah was it was a church that was a church in barstow was selling like everything like a church yeah it was like guitars like uh like everything and my dad we all got in the dodge caravan this i guess is a family this is kind of like a family trip road trip i think josh gets very concerned when it's not on theme so thank you yeah bring it back to the theme so barstow is a good hour and a half, two hours from the Valley. Yep.

Get in the car, go to this church. The way that my dad picked the instruments was by weight. Yeah, because we were very young. We were very, very, very, very young. And we find this PA. Granted, like our dad isn't like a sound engineer. It was very much trial by like error. I still don't even know how

he figured out this is before youtube yeah like before youtube how did he figure out how to hook up a pa system and we put it and like it was the kind of thing where like all of a sudden we show up at our house and my dad's like we're doing it and my mom was like where is my living room yeah like i no longer have a living everything in the living room but it was like our weird i mean we say this all the time it was like our weird version of like camping like we were in like a camping family we would just play music on the weekends and that's like how like we would spend family time together was like through through music and did you what was the farthest afield rockin hyam ever went for a gig the biggest gigs

that we played was the St. Francis Fair we technically opened for Billy Idol yeah we technically but we were

we were at like noon and Billy Idol was at like nine we weren't at okay we weren't like three

we weren't at noon we weren't we were pretty early we were basically the opener opener but like yeah like there's this big if you're a valley girl or a valley boy or a valley person you basically know the saint francis de sales fair it's like the biggest fair in the valley um and you go and like they have like a stage set up and it's were you nervous about it as knowing no the fair we did it like a couple years in a row.

It was the big Rockin' High M gig every year. And also it landed towards the end of the year. So it would be like, we're getting ready for summer vacation. All our friends are going out on the weekends. And then we had to stay home and rehearse. It was also every year it fell on Coach coachella it's true every every year it was it was the valley's version of coachella that's what we'll that's what we'll call it yeah it was the valley must have been such a relief once coachella went to two weekends and well yeah

well by then the thing is is like when i was like i i obviously like with rockin heim i was like super young so like i didn't get to miss out on like key things like Esty had. You were like, what? I was 17 in high school. Yeah, you were in high school when we were doing Rock and Hyme. Like Esty was in high school while we were doing Rock and Hyme. Did anybody you were friends with think it was cool, Esty? All of my friends thought it was cool.

I did not understand. I thought it was cool. Well, we were was good songs like we were we played a lot of billy joel we played tina turner we played how long a set would rockenheim do at the at the fair an hour we had an hour did now were your parents very similar in their approach to it was one of them more nervous did they have no nerves? Were they the more of a seasoned? Never nervous. Honestly, never. If anything, I mean, like my, the infamous Rockenheim story that I always go back to is when we played Radio City Musical. We had two nights in a row and we really hit it the first night so much so that like our voices were just exhausted and we had a show

literally the next night. So we play the show on the second night my parents are in the audience well before the second night they were like can we i think my parents were like are you gonna are you gonna are we could we play like a song like because our mom grew up going to radio city and seeing the rockettes and like and we would like bring our parents out from time to time like on tour like we would sometimes bring them out to play a rock and hyme song but like radio city we were so nervous for so like they asked before they were like are you gonna do like a surprise rock and hyme thing and we were like no mom and dad mom and dad we're not doing it we're not doing we're not doing rock and hyme like this show is like the biggest show of our lives like we're just gonna play the

show like we just want it to be good. Continue. So cut to we play this second night. My voice literally sounds like this when we play. It's sore. It's hoarse. We leave like, oh no, Alana said on the talkback mic. We have like a mic on stage that like only the people on stage can hear. Like our stage manager, our tour manager can all hear. And Alana says like, hey, can you ready our mom and dad? Can you just tell them that we need them to do Mustang Sally for the encore? Because we can't do an encore. Yeah, our voices are good.

Our voices are fucked. Fine. We do another two songs. I go backstage and i find my tour manager to get ready for the like like where are my parents and she literally just points to a corner and it's my dad doing paradiddles yeah they're like warming up like warming up on the side of the stage my mom's like cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake, like warming.

They're professionals. They went back to club med times. They were like, five, six, seven, eight, let's go. Like, we're playing the song and they killed it. They killed it. Notoriously, every time my parents come out to play a song with us, we always make a joke that like my mom steps on stage and it turns into like Donna and the Himes. Like, she's like the

biggest icon star because my mom her her claim to fame is that she won the gong show i feel like maybe we talked about this when i was on the show which is no small thing she won the gong show and she was in her early 20s so it was she didn't get gong she was a serious act and yeah as a singer she won as a singer she was she sang a bonnie ray b-side called blender blues and she hung in chic yeah bluesy oh wow have you seen tape sorry we have seen tape there is a tape and we also have the gong still there's like a gong that we have it's more like a winner yeah it's like winner of the gong show donna rose she was donna rose i have to venture that the audience for your show being fans of you guys is thrilled to see your parents oh they they love my parents way more than they love us honestly i think that

people come to our shows hoping that my parents play more than than seeing us play like my also my parents are just so again like going back to how proud they are like they are the proudest parents on the planet and they like go out they love our fans so much like if you go like my mom it's like my mom always goes out and always has like gifts for everybody in the crowd like she's just so thankful that like these people come to our shows and want to see us play. They're just the most proud parents. They're so cute. I think they're also just stoked that our line of work is that we do stuff together.

Yeah. And my dad's talking about dreams. My parents' wildest dreams. They thought, obviously, they thought we were all just going to grow up and separate and do our own things. And I think us playing in a band together and like being able to travel the world i mean since you know that i get lost all the time like i think my dad it feels a lot better that like i have my siblings to like take care of me on the road and and we're lucky like when we're on the road like i feel like the biggest thing when you talk to other bands or like other musicians that are on the road the first thing that they'll say is like i just miss my family. And like, we all travel together. Not a problem here.

Not a problem here. If anything, I'm like, I could use a break. We could use a break. Do you guys have like a tour bus? And do your parents ever ride in the bus with you? No, they did in the beginning. So when we first, when we got, so it took us a while, like we were, I mean, before Haim, you know, we were a band for seven years. Before we got so it took us a while like we were i mean before high i'm you know we were a band for seven years before we got before we got signed so like and we never really left la but the second that we left la like started touring we did like a van tour which is like super fun and then i'll never forget it was like the biggest deal when we got a tour bus like it was like the crate we were

like what is going on we have a tour bus like it felt like almost famous you're like oh my god this is crazy and like we all like my parents came it was like a celebration but it was like the shittiest bus you'll ever see i mean it was a bus so i didn't even care but it was like a bus from like the 70s that they like refurbished and it was like carpet that was like stained like a 80s rock band had a really good time in that bus yeah during thes if the bus is a rockin' don't come a knockin' you know what I mean? you could smell the fun party times that this bus had had how long does it take to tour in a bus

before it wears off? it did not wear off we were just happy to have a bus the fact that we didn't have to drive the van anymore. We were like, I will take a smelly 80s tour bus with like crazy smelly dudes. We were 12 people, 14 people, 12 people on a bus. Or was that later?

So no, we were five. We were 12. We were 12 people on a bus. And my parents came like the first night. Cause like, I think in their mind they were like, oh, now there's an easier way for us to travel with the girls. Like usually they would just fly to like the fun cities and then we would see my parents. And then when we got a bus, they were like, oh, so now we're going to we're going to come on the bus with you. They slept on the bus for one night.

The next morning, like my parents both were like, we are never doing this ever again. They're like, this is the worst experience of my life. We were fine. We were so stoked. And they were like, we're never doing this again. So honestly, it was like, we're stoked about the 80s bus because it was so like crazy. Like you could basically like. I love it.

It rocks me to sleep. I like when it's kind of like. It also seems like based on everything you've told us today, the only way to get your parents to not ride on the bus was for your parents to decide they weren't gonna ride on the bus this is not something you were gonna ever ask no no no no no no no and and they made the right decision it's really i mean if anything they i mean thank god they made that decision honestly i mean love them to pieces but the idea of being on a bus. We're not the Partridge family. No.

No. We're not the Partridge family. No, no, no, no, no, no. But it's still great. They still come out a lot. Does it feel like, I mean, tours obviously go to incredible places, but it probably never feels like a vacation at all. Do you ever spend time during the day on tours doing things that tourists do?

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe do. Oh, good. things that tourists do? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good. If we have time. Yeah. No, it's fun. I mean, we were just so, again, like so excited to leave L.A. and play music. So, like, I mean, I feel like on our first tour, it's like I'll never forget when we

like went to Europe for the first time. We got signed. I mean, we got signed in the U.K., but then we got to go to europe from the uk and it was like the crazy i had only seen these places in history books i was like what is going on like this is the most insane experience ever so i feel like yeah we've done we've done a lot of traveling together like segway tours yeah oh nice yeah the guy who invented the segway uh lives like a mile from our parents house oh no way yeah the guy that created segway is that what you said dean dean cayman he's like a yeah sort of he's like the uh the elon musk that you don't know about wow got you got you well What's his biopic going to be like? Dude. On a roll. On a roll.

Love that. On a roll. That's great. Okay. He also was in a band, left it because of a grapevine situation. Yeah, exactly. And then had a dream about a Segway.

So it was almost similar to your biopic. Honestly, if we're just going to do a crossover. I was going to say, if there's ever a California Raisins biopic we should be in it with our parents I would love that I would love that I know we're older than you guys but remember

when you were young and you would see clips of old commercials from the 50s and you'd think they were so whack and now you realize if you showed someone California Raisins they would be they would be they would just think what what is going on and it was so genius it was such a genius yeah commercial yeah and then so earlier you were saying you went to this retreat in ohai yes because sometimes i

imagine like when you're touring you do need you do need a vacation so have you ever gone on any pure family vacations where you're not playing music where your parents aren't playing like yeah I mean well like trying to think well we went to San Francisco one time yeah we did San Francisco we like drove I saw Harry Potter

it was like a big thing like Harry Potter had just come out we saw Bernadette Peters oh my god We saw Bernadette Peters. Oh my God. We saw Bernadette Peters live. We saw Bernadette Peters live. Oh my God. She did like Sunday in the park with George.

I cried the entire time. And she saw me in the audience. Remember, do you remember this? Yes, I do. And she gave me. She gave you an ornament. She gave me a Christmas ornament. Yes.

So my mom, I don't know. She got like discount tickets on something. And we were like second row. My mom is also just, you know, like my mom I don't know she got like discount tickets on something and we were like second row my mom is also just you know like my mom is like the greatest bargainer like she loves a good deal everything is like a good deal like every time we got tickets or anything

it was like she either got like a Groupon or like some sort of like she finagled some or we would have to like wait and we did that like on Broadway we would like do the wait in line and the lottery the lottery ticket thing my mom was super into that kind of stuff and my mom like basically like figured out that like we got like second row tickets to see bernadette peters and we and my mom was like so stoked because that like never usually happens usually like in the back or whatever and like we were like second row and esty was crying

of the entire time of joy like she was just like obsessed with bernadette peters obsessed and bernadette peters gave her a christmas ornament like signs and then she like came up to me like in the like went down the stairs and was like oh she's crying yeah so everybody she's like called me out but i did not care because i was it i was literally two inches away from greatness. And you also got your own spotlight. They put a spotlight on you. It was like the first time you felt the shine on your face of the spotlight. Bernadette Peters shared it with you.

Our father was on a plane once and Bernadette Peters was on the plane. And there was a couple and it was their 50th anniversary. And she found out and she sang them a song on the plane. And the couple were completely is the greatest ever. And the couple were completely nonplussed. They were just like, oh, that was nice. And my dad was like, are you kidding? Like Bernadette Peters sang to you on an airplane

and they were just like, yeah, that was nice. No. Yeah. I would have died. I would have died. And then she also gave them a Christmas ornament. So it doesn't seem like it's the biggest deal I've seen. I think that was maybe a thing she did everywhere.

She got in a business deal that went sideways, where she maybe got, she bought too many Christmas ornaments, thought she was going to be able to sell them. I feel really triggered when you say things to me like that, because there was an instant, well, when I was a kid, my parents took me to go see The Little Mermaid when I was three.

Okay, go with me on this journey. Sure. Very excited. I'm three. I think Danielle was just born. The opening scene, my mom turns to me and goes, your middle name is Ariel. Okay. The Little Mermaid's name is Ariel.

Is it Ariel? Ariel. Ariel. Ariel. Ariel. That's my middle name. Ariel. That's my middle name. Ariel is Esty's middle name. Three-year-old Esty is like, I'm the coolest.

First time in this conversation where I think I felt cool in this podcast. Didn't think mom and dad were cool at this moment. Esty Haim was cool. I go to preschool the next day. I tell all of my friends, my two best friends, Romy and Jessica, you guys, my middle name is the Little Mermaid's middle name. My middle name is Ariel, Ariel. Ariel.

Ariel. Ariel, Ariel, whatever, Ariel. They look at me, don't say anything, turn away. I'm like, that's weird. They come back 10 minutes later. Jessica Bernstein looks to me and goes, my middle name is Cinderella. Romy's middle name is Snow White.

So you're not that special. And then that was your villain. That's your villain origin story you turned into ursula you're like and that's when you turn that's what your middle name turned from ariel you got your looks your pretty face and don't underestimate the importance of body language. I am Ursula now. So you telling me that I'm not that special, Seth, just triggers me trauma. I think that really, that's the story about having bad friends

who couldn't be happy for you. I'm with you on that. Those weren't Danielle's club med friends, let me tell you. They would have never said that. No, Danielle had good club med friends. That's why Danielle had to figure it out. Never have friends for more than two weeks. Rotate them in and out.

They can never hurt you. If it's only two weeks at a time, they can never hurt you. We kept in touch. Yeah, I know. We would write postcards to each other. She was really a good friend. Danielle's very heartfelt. Oh, thank you.

You are. You're very heartfelt. Danielle's a good friend. Danielle's a really good friend. See, that's what... Estee's smart because she only makes friends with people who aren't going to be around much longer. Maybe.

So yeah, she has pen pals, but they're like, I should have packed this into therapy. Maybe I'm only friends with people that mistreat me. Maybe that. Yay, yay, yay.

My boy. Yay, yay, yay, yay. What's the biggest trip you took with your parents? Did you ever leave, did you leave the States ever as kids? I think the biggest thing,

I mean, honestly, the biggest thing I think for us was going to Vegas. Yeah. Vegas was like a big thing, except like we, Oh no, wait,

New York. When I went to SNL, that's true. That was the biggest family trip we ever went on. When you graduated high school. So I'm sure you know this, Seth. My dream was to be Molly Shannon. Not to be on SNL, but yes, to be on SNL.

But really, my dream was to be Molly Shannon. Your dream was to be on SNL. Yeah, your dream, that was good. Be truthful to Seth. What are you doing? What's going on? But it was more that I wanted to be Molly Shannon on SNL. Esty famously, when she graduated middle school in eighth grade, so this was four years before

this, when they called her name on stage, she came out and did the superstar. Yeah, she did superstar. Superstar. Yeah. And then she graduated diploma. In front of 5,000 people. Yeah. So everyone knew that I was obsessed with saturday

night live and for my graduation my and also my parents also knew that like i really wanted to go to nyu i got in but they were like we're not paying for that that's really cute that you want to get you want us to pay like 200 grand for an acting degree we're not going for that. That's really cute that you want us to pay like $200,000 for an acting degree. We're not going to do that. They're like, what about Rockenheim? They're like, what about, yeah, literally. And we're not like, you're not going to New York. They're like, who's going to play bass?

For one, it's going to cost us $200,000. Plus, we're going to lose like $2,500 in revenue. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's going to play bass at the St. Francis? Do we have another kid? What about the St. Francis to sales fair? Yeah, so they were like, you're saying. How am I going to explain to Billy Idol that is opener doesn't have a bassist yeah

rock and high we're gonna do synth bass so but as kind of like a consolation i think my parents were like but we will take a family trip to new york in retrospect it was it was almost like why kick a girl when she's down they were like we're gonna go to new york but you can't go here for school but my mom's like second cousin is married to a man who went to school with robert smigel great yeah okay yeah it's like six degrees of robert my mom was like, can we get family tickets to SNL for the whole family? Robert Smigel says, I can get you

one ticket. One. So you know what that means. The whole Heimland plan. We are going to New York. We are cheering Esty on. We're cheering Esty on from the sidelines. We are getting ready. Esty gets to go to snl by herself let's go we're all going we're all going i just i do want to jump in for our listeners to know that based

on how tenuous connection you had to robert smigel one ticket is about right right okay because when even even when i was the highest i reached at that show i never got more than two a week and if it was you know and if the request was for a family band that was friends of my second cousin's dentist or whatever yeah i would also say you know pick one we were stoked to get one don't even get me started oh we were that's why we all went we were like yeah we were all it was the biggest deal like esty got to go and like pick out an outfit. Like it was like a whole, to sit in the audience.

Like it was like, literally it was like the biggest deal for our family. I remember exactly what I wore. What did you wear Esty? Okay. I wore an H&M silver bomber jacket. Love. Cool.

With a white tank top. Love. Flared fear Ruchi jeans that I got from TJ Maxx. Love. On that trip. And then those black pointy toed flats yes okay that i got on sale at shoe palace yep for like 20 bucks and she was ready to go and urban outfitters dangly mod earrings dingle dingle dingle dingle earrings and my hair was bleach blonde because i went to the hairdresser

like the week before that and said I want to look like Scarlett Johansson. And that was when she had a mullet like a bleach blonde mullet. Yep. And that was my outfit. I was sitting in the like on the floor. I wasn't in the stands. Wow. On the floor and

Jimmy Fallon threw the pencil as he does after Weekend Update. After Weekend Update. And I caught it. Unbelievable. Now, I have a couple questions. I want to start with who was the host of Musical Guest? This is controversial.

Very controversial. The Musical Guest was amazing. I mean, if you say the Musical Guest, you're going to know who the host was. Can I take one guess? Was it Trump? Was it? say the musical guest you're gonna know who the host was but can i take one guess was it trump was it oh my god so i was in the cast who was music i don't remember who bootsy collins it was like in the roots it was two incredible it was a season finale i think or or thereabouts yeah it was the end of yeah, it was the end of the, because it was the end of school.

Yeah. I think E-R-S-E was hoping that like a- Like Josh Hartnett was going to host or something. Yeah, Josh Hartnett was like hosting it, and then she was going to fall in love with Josh Hartnett. I also think because I forgot that it was four years from your superstar moment, so I was thinking Wally Shannon era.

And little did you know that in the audience, wearing dingle-dangle earrings and a blonde mullet was a young sd hyam i remember there was an old woman who was complaining to security that a a girl with dingle dangle earrings had rested jimmy fellon's pencil out of her hand sd dove for that pencil i did that was your bouquet that was your wedding bouquet oh my god well still not marriedquet? That was your wedding bouquet? Oh my God. Well, still not married. It will be in her wedding bouquet. What were the other two

Haim girls doing? So she goes off to the show. She probably leaves around 1030. Did you guys watch the show live in a hotel room? We did watch the show live, trying to see if like they were going to do

like a crowd shot. I don't think that they, I think they actually did. We saw like right before the musical guest. You saw my bleach blonde mullet. We saw Essie's bleach blonde mullet and her dingle dangle earrings. Were you all still awake when she got home oh yeah no we were still basically

so like when we ever whenever we traveled as a family like my parents were very against going out to eat they were like why are we going out to eat when we could just get like a family hotel room and we just cook meals in the hotel room we would get like like a kitchenette like so so like i didn't even know that new york had restaurants until i was very old we literally did not go out once we never like notoriously like never i think we have like bagels and cream cheese and we would go yeah we would go like every time we would go anywhere the first thing we do is go to the market and like get food so that we would have for the week of when we were on vacation. We would never go out to eat at restaurants. It has not hit me until just now. We never

went out to restaurants. The only thing we did do in New York was go to Sarge's Deli. We went to Sarge's Deli. We were staying near there. We were staying in Midtown. We went to Sarge's Deli. Like my parents, that was like the one thing. Like Deli was allowed. Deli was like,

we are going to get real New York Deli. We're going to get real New York food. Real New York food is Deli. The Deli loophole. Yeah, but we didn't go to like,

like, like, like the hot spots in New York. No, it was not like Sex and the City. Like it was fully just like Sarge's. But the thing that's

super crazy is so like when we were um about to launch our third album women in music part three we had this idea to do a deli tour and we really wanted to do a deli in new york and all three of us were like what if we go back to sarges because that's the only deli that we went to and sd went to snl and we like called them we were like hi we're a band they're like we have no idea who you are and we're like we want to shut your deli down and do a show and they were so nice so nice so incredible if you're in new york go to sarges they're the best um but we played a show at sarges it was like full circle moment like when sd went to to snl we went to sarge's and then we played a show at sarge's it was great and then of

course the other full circle moment first time you guys go back and do snl like that i mean i love for any band that was that's an incredible moment i don't think i fully comprehended how big it was for the three of you. It was the biggest. Insanity. I mean, the thing is, and also, like, I don't remember even playing it because I was so nervous. Like, it was, like, maybe the scariest moment. Playing SNL is, like, the best and worst thing in your life. You're, like, it's the greatest thing that ever happened to you, but it's the most nerve-wracking thing.

It is so nerve-wracking. The thing that I think that people actually don't understand is when the when the guest says welcome and put in band name ladies and gentlemen ladies and gentlemen here is hi you can't hear them say that so all of a sudden you just you like the cameras go up you hear silence and then you hear claps and then there's a red light. And it's like, like Moti Hayim, 5, 6, 7, 8. You gotta like. Yeah, you gotta go. It's literally like. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

We act it out. It's like, oh no, we're playing this. Oh no, we've played the wrong song. But it was the greatest moment of my life. And also on top of everything, heard the on that thursday we all we wanted to do was be in a sketch obviously because sd that was like the biggest thing we also are like the greatest like the biggest snl fans like we've been fans of snl since we were kids like that's the only time my parents would let us stay up past nine o'clock was to watch

snl and i'll never forget like we were so nervous to play our first SNL. And on that Thursday at like seven o'clock at night, we get a call and it was like, you're getting in a car, you're going to the studio and you're rehearsing a sketch. And Esty was walking down the hall. Like, I remember we were all like staying in rooms next to each other. And Esty, you were like going to get like a something from like a bodega or something. You're like walking down the hall. And I like, like a movie in the biopic again, insane scene. like walking down the hall and i like like a movie in the biopic again insane scene i like opened the door and i was like she was like what and i was like we're gonna be in a sketch and we all got in a car we went

out of the studio and it was the greatest again like it gives me chills you watch that video i look like i'm five years old we were smiling so i'm so ashamed that i can't what was the sketch you guys it was josh hutcherson was our guest was our host it was the josie's on a vacation that was the best sketch of that uh night that josh hutcherson it was so good and it was the greatest moment i mean other than playing it like the only thing that i remember being on like the like playing the actual songs on the stage was there there's bricks on like a facade in on the stage and I just remember staring at this brick and being like if I just stare at this brick I will not fuck up yeah I will not together so it's actually hilarious because I hadn't I never watched the I've never

watched our performance I've only seen like clips of, but I was forced to watch it a couple of years ago. I was watching it. And literally, the camera never goes to me because I'm staring at a brick. They're like, we're going to save this girl. We're going to save this girl a lot of grief. I'm literally staring, not even going to him. She's disassociating.

I'm disassociating. I'm staring at a fucking brick i was like i cannot i cannot fuck this up but i if we played it on our first album and our second album and i think kovid kind of got kovid got in the way of our third time but we would die to do it again next record and never forget our moment remember when you gave us a shot of whiskey honestly and then i needed that we needed that you guys i remember running into you right after the show right it was right after the show it was right it was before our second i think it was before and let me tell you let me tell you on the second song i didn't look at the brick on don't save me don't save me i was looking straight at that brick

well i will say lauren i remember lauren during your first song was like she's staring at a brick somebody get that girl a shot of whiskey knowing this Michael story I wish if if Lauren had known that that he would when he called to offer you the thing he said we'd love to have you but we only have room for one of you I know and you know what it would have been me uh and then uh I should know because that's your first album which is uh congratulations 10 year anniversary years i know full september 29 years amazing it's so lucky to have had you guys around for a decade what a joy i know thank you yeah we want we want to be around for like 20 more decades i know it's not bad right being around is not a bad thing to be i also also just want to, my quick SNL thing about how much respect I have for that idea of what it's like the first time the red light goes on. Especially because each year it gets harder to be on SNL because each year there's more history behind SNL.

Right? The show becomes bigger than you feel like you can be in the moment. You feel like you can be in the moment. And I remember a few years after I left, they were doing a Thursday Live, like one of their weekend update Thursday Lives. And they last minute decided to do something where they wanted Jimmy Fallon and I to be George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

And I was like, sure, I'm happy. On update, great. There's no place in the world I'm more at home. But you forget what it's like. Like I rolled out at this desk where I did it for you know seven eight years at the update desk and the light went red and I just felt my heart beating I'm a talk show host I do it every night and there's just something about studio 8h and the red light where it's true yeah I know I mean and also since that was our

first time we had nothing to compare it to. Yeah, we had never really done any type of shows before. Live shows. Live shows. Like, it's Saturday night live. Like, it's literally live. We were very much not ready for primetime players that night. I'm going to assume that Modi and Donna were there.

Oh, 100%. Are you kidding me? Modi and Donna were there. Oh, a hundred percent. Are you kidding me? But it was really funny seeing my dad because usually, you know, I feel like our dad is like really nervous before shows or is like, you know. For us. For us, like very much like, you know,

don't go partying before this big gig, you know. Like you have to, you know, you need to like drink water, be hydrated. Like he's kind of like hardcore in that way. Like he always like you're doing too much you have to chill you have a big show tomorrow whatever and it was so funny i think he could sense how nervous we were that he turned on this kind of cheerleader thing i have never seen my father he's like you're fine yeah you know he's like you're fine listen take a shot like literally he was like i think you need a shot i'm like this is my this is not this is not the way we know yeah which you could probably now

visualize like probably we were probably like staring and like walking in circles and like staring at disassociating the whole day and he was like my daughters are going to totally not do well on snl i need to rein this in I will say it's a quality that actually Lorne Michaels is really good at as well, which is when between dress and air, after a disaster dress is when Lorne's like, I think we'll be okay.

Like he doesn't, whereas if he feels like everybody's riding too high, he reminds you that that one didn't count. Reign it in. I think it is a very good you know obviously lauren's a parent as well i think that's a good parent sometimes you need to do the do the move that is not natural to you if your kids need the other more totally totally it was yeah it was it was funny that was like i think that was like one of the i think that might have

been the first time my parents were like what is going on yeah like 100 like how did we get here like that was like our really that was our first really big like how did we get here what is going on like we were were three girls from the valley that were in a band with their parents like and now we're playing snl like this is this does not happen like this is this is crazy i think that was dad's those were dad's words too. He was like, this is crazy. This is crazy. Talking to you guys has been the best.

My only regret is I almost wish I'd made you all talk like your dad the whole time because it has made me laugh every time. We have to bring my dad on next time. He has all the stories. I mean, he'll tell the, the copper mountain story from his perspective. And let me tell you,

it's, it's, it's like taken. It's like, it's full taken. It's crazy. All right. We do have to,

before we let you go, we have to ask you some questions real quick that we ask. Here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation, relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Relaxing. All right.

Very good. Hive mind. Your favorite means of transportation, trains, planes, automobiles, boats, bikes, on foot? I feel like cars. Yeah, automobiles. Automobiles. Road trips. Automob cars. Yeah, automobiles. Automobiles, road trips. Automobiles. Yeah, automobiles. If you could take a vacation with any family

other than your own family, which family would you like to go on a vacation with? They could be fictional. The Knowles family. Whose? Yeah, the Knowles family. Yeah, Beyonce's family. Beyonce and Solange.

Beyonce and Solange would be super fun. By the way, after this podcast, I want you to know that my answer to this question is your family. Yeah. Beyonce's family. Beyonce and Solange. Beyonce and Solange would be super fun. By the way, after this podcast, I want you to know that my answer to this question is your family. Yeah. We might not want to sleep on the bus. Yeah, the bus sounds bad. We might get a hotel, but we'll hang. I'd like to get a hotel with your parents to see what they cook in the kitchen. They will cook you a four-course meal.

Dude, my dad makes a mean shakshuka. Yeah. No, they will cook you a four-course meal my dad makes a mean shakshuka yeah no they will cook you all the meals on your vacation it's i would i would love to go on vacation with you guys i want to go on vacation with your family i'm doing it um this one this one might get uh might be tricky with all three of you but if you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Let's go Esty, Danielle, and then Alana. I'd say my dad. He said me

first. Oh, sorry. That's okay. I had to pick it first. Danielle's going with Moti. She wants dad points and she doesn't. If you had said her dad. I know why you want dad. I know why you want dad. Because you're dad's favorite. No,'t if you had said her dad i know why you know i just my dad i know why because your dad's favorite no no no because if you're stranded on a desert island my dad would make like the craziest shelter like my dad we would survive you're thinking more about survival

straight survival yeah dad first thing straight on desert he would go straight into okay water we need water source we shelter like we. We would live the most amazing life on a stranded island like that. What about, you don't think I would know? I'm a survivalist. What do you mean? I can't. All right, so you go. Who would you make it an afraid? Okay, fine. Who would you pick? And survivor. Who would you pick?

Can I pick myself? You're already going to be there. Wow. You want to be by yourself? You want to be by yourself. You want to be by yourself. That speaks volumes. That she wants to be by herself. Wait, can it be anyone in my family in general? In your family, yeah.

It could be your cousin, Charlie. You know what? I can't believe you chose by yourself. We have such a huge family and you're like, I want to be by myself. I want to get away from you guys i okay you know what i would actually pick my grandma frida oh yeah that's all right you know what she would i would be standing on a desert island with her she's so fun yeah she's 86 and she hikes like every day you're right yes you are correct you are correct

where do you think dad learned it from yeah yeah you know he he he learned it from my one dad one grandma freedom frida frida frida so you get dad i kind of want to change mine to grandma frida all right alana your last act here honestly i'm gonna choose mom first of all i look exactly like my mother like i am like a carbon copy of my mom and i feel like me and my mom would not be able to put up a shelter would probably not be able to find food but we'd laugh a lot we would just i'm not thinking about survival necessarily i'm thinking about my mental health oh okay yeah well then a hundred percent i mean not dead yeah not dead

dad would wake danielle up at six in the morning to go find food. Fishing time. Fishing time. Mom would be like, let's just hang by the beach and see what's like. If we find a coconut,

we find a coconut. If we don't, we don't. It's fine. Cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake. Cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake. Cheesecake, cheesecake. Let's sing a Bonnie Raitt song while we wait for someone to save us. cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake cheesecake let's sing a bonnie raitt song while we wait for someone to save us yeah no i think that's a good crew mom dad and dad's mom yeah and what neighborhood are you guys from in the valley

what uh little pocket what town we're from sherman oaks sherman oaks well esty and danielle grew up like before the earthquake for the 94 earthquake we live sherman oaks then we moved to studio city statue yeah so would you recommend sherman oaks or the studio city as a vacation destination absolutely i think so honestly valley you know what the valley is cool now when the when we were growing up the valley was not great and now there's all these new restaurants and stuff. I'm like, you know what? Go for it. If you want to come to the Valley, make sure. I'm like trying to think of good spots to go to in the Valley.

Casa Vega. Casa Vega. Classic. Casa Vega. Arts is Deli. Good vibes. And then Seth, last question. Last question.

Have you ever been to the Grand Canyon? No. Do you want to go? Yes. A hundred percent. Wait, are you inviting us? No. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Is this an invitation? They're opening a deli at the bottom of the Grand Canyon and they want to know if you will do a show. If we'll play it, we'll open it. I will say, to be fair, one of my dad's dreams when we were growing up was to go take a trip to the Grand Canyon. And we always vetoed it. We were like, no.

And I feel like that was a mistake. I feel like we should... I think that was soul-crushing for dad. Maybe for dad's birthday, we'll finally do the Grand Canyon trip. I think that would be a very nice outcome. If this podcast has led you to the point where you can do something nice for him.

Yes. He's turning 70. I know. Isn't that crazy? That's a great reason to do it, guys. I know. I know. I know.

I know. That's hard. Yeah. Days are gone. 10-year anniversary. Yeah coming out september 29th a fantastic birthday i'm so happy take a ride down memory lane of 10 years ago when our first album came out when you put it on just take it also i feel like it's probably been about five years since you were in that netflix bash brothers special that the lonely people should go back and

revisit that hey yes you nasty freak. Shake that nasty butt. I will never forget it. It was such a hot song. And also shout out to Maya Rudolph who is always and forever will be the greatest. Maybe a seven year anniversary since you were in the Blue Jean Committee episode of Documentary Man. Catalina.

Catalina. Catalina. Catalina.ze. Catalina Breeze. Catalina. Catalina Breeze. Catalina. I remember every, every parody. Two sausage makers from Chicago.

Every parody song, everything, every parody that we've ever been a part of, I remember it. You've been in some of my favorite parody songs. Oh, also,

you should know, at the end of each episode, and I'm not saying you have to listen, you've lived it, you don't have to listen to it, but at the end of each episode, Josh does a song based on the interview.

Okay. This will be the first time. And I know exactly what song you're going to choose. I don't know yet. I don't know. I got to chew it over. Oh, okay. I'm excited.

Okay, sorry. I thought you were going to make up a song based on everything that we talked about on the podcast. Well, kind of. I'll be inspired by a piece of it and i don't i won't do a full song probably i sort of i tend to do a verse and a chorus and then maybe get out maybe a little bit this is josh's snl style pressure this is his red light is he this is the first time he'll be recording a song based on actual singer songwriters so i'm so excited to hear.

And I feel like, see, how did it feel to have three people at the same time? It's a lot. It's a lot, isn't it? It's so many stories. I think three,

any three people might be a lot. Believe it or not, the three of you have a pretty good vibe. You know how to share focus. You guys have a pretty cultivated, good laid-back vibe

with each other. Thank you. I love it. Love you guys. What a delight. Thanks for doing this. Of course. Thank you.

Anytime. We love you. All right. Love you guys too. We'll see you soon. Come on the show. Bye. Bye, guys.

Bye, y'all. People say that high on has got it made. But their dues have been duly paid And we all know that they can really shred But way before that they kicked it acclimate Their parents had a cover band boomerang Multi-armed drums while Donna sang They were the daughters of a house band The The The The The The

The The The The The The The The The The Life was pretty grand, those Ohio girls Cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake

You know that club man's got a big account Had a location up on Copper Mound That's where Danielle would make some friends Those kids' friendships, they would never end Well, actually, they'd end every week But at least Danielle knew how to ski Better than Estyy who had no skill. Ski patrol took her down the hill.

Couldn't hear a lot of her cries. Had no pizza, only french fries. Those are high young girls. Cheesecake, cheesecake. Cheesecake, cheesecake. Cheesecake, cheesecake. Cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake, cheesecake There was also that time in the lobby When young Alana said she had to pee. Remembered a place where she could go. So she took the stairs down below.

Someone was coming out when she went in. But she couldn't get out again. Alana was stuck inside the bathroom. Worried she had met her doom. The door was heavy, she was stuck inside the bathroom. What a super disappointing tomb. Those are high, um, girl. Cheesecake, cheesecake.

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It's hard not to be impressed And then they were also in a sketch And they got a shot of whiskey from Seth Those Ohio girls Cheesecake, cheesecake Cheesecake, cheesecake Cheesecake, cheesecake Cheesecake, cheesecake

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