Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - HASAN MINHAJ Visited Marine World Africa USA

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Seth and Josh are joined by Hasan Minhaj on the podcast this week! Hasan talks all about growing up in Davis, California, what it was like not meeting his sister until he was an older child, his memories of Christmas Day as a child who didn’t celebrate that holiday, family trips to Marine World Africa USA, his recommendations for visiting India, being a cul-de-sac kid and playing basketball, and so much more! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Support our sponsors: Naked Wines Head to NakedWines.com/TRIPS, click ‘Enter Voucher’ and put in my code TRIPS for both the code AND password for 6 bottles of wine for JUST $39.99 with shipping included. That’s $100 off your first six bottles Freedom from Religion Foundation Join Freedom from Religion foundation today. Text the word, “FAMILY” to Five Eleven Five Eleven. Fitbod Get in shape this summer with Fitbod. Join Fitbod today to get your personalized workout plan. Get 25% off your subscription or try the app FREE for seven days at Fitbod.me/TRIP Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi, buddy. Hi, Sufi. How are you doing? I'm good. I don't know if you notice, but I got all these spots on my face. I did notice. And this is, we've been Zooming for a couple hours because we just recorded an episode. And I didn't want to call out your spots, but you do have them.

And I'm assuming it's dermatology related. It is dermatology related. I had some, like, blocked oil ducts. Gotcha. Seabacious somethings. I thought you might. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. As McKenzie calls him, I had some lumpy bumpies. You had some lumpy bumpies. Now, were you surprised at how many they found? Yeah. I sort of, there were a couple that I pointed out, and then the dermatologist really went to town. Yeah.

And it looks like I sort of went hunting with Dick Cheney. Yeah. Or, like, ran through a field of bees. Yeah. By the way. Yeah. We'll get back to it. You know, Ash is.

so clumsy, my honest. Yeah. Like, he came into our room the other day. He like, it was night, and the lights were on, and he walked to our room. And he's like, sorry, I'm late. No surprise here. I stubbed my toe. And I just liked it. Even he knows.

But we were having sort of a dinner party, and he was bartending for us. That's good. Yeah, although, except clumsy was the lead. Clumsey. But actually not. He was somebody ordered, just wanted a spin drift, and he ran across the lawn. and I watched him literally as he was running,

it looked like he got hit with an invisible baseball because he ran into a bee. And like only Ash could like run it. Like a bee didn't come for Ash. Like Ash just ran into a bee and it stung him on his lip. And I'm just like, man, trouble is out to find you, my friend. Yeah.

I don't know if we talked about this here, but I had to tell dad recently that I thought he's too aggressive towards bees that are bothering other people. Interesting. Interesting observation. Yeah. So I guess where were we just?

We were with them? It is so, by the way, it makes me laugh so hard that it got to a point that you had to tell him. Well, because I was home with him and he's like talking to somebody and he'd be like, there's a bee next to you.

And then he'd like try to like slap the bee, which just makes the bee angry. Yeah, no, the bees don't care for that. And he's like, you know, some people don't like bees, and sure. I don't think anybody likes a bee. I like a bee. Oh, interesting. Near your head?

If a bee is near my head, the last thing I'm going to do is swat at it. Well, I will say, with the current state of your face, what's a bee sting going to do? It's going to blend right in. Yeah. It might even, might even you out a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I'm dealing with this. You're dealing with it.

So you got your lumpy bumpies. I mean, again. I got my lumpy bumpies. I had a legit thing on my shoulder that I had to come up. off that was like going to be problematic. It was one of those like very basic skin cancer easiest basal cell thing. And I was like, hey, while we're at it, let's take care of these things. And she really, yeah.

How long did it take her to do the ducks on your face? Oh, like three minutes. Oh, really? What? She did do your face when I'm seeing in three minutes? Oh, yeah, probably less. Maybe, no, about three minutes. Now, as she's doing them, and again, this sounds like,

I'm going to, setting up a joke. This is a serious medical question. As she's doing each one, does she, like, sort of say what she's doing? And does she sort of, like, go ducked? And then does she say goose and run around? No, she does. Okay. McKenzie did ask.

She's like, what did she use? And I'm like, I don't know. Like, I can't see what she's doing to my face. Like, something's coming in. Some implement. And then a follow-up implement. And she's like, well, is it like, were they, like, getting lanced? I was like, I don't know.

Yeah, Alexi does that too, where every time I see the doctor, she thinks I also learned how to be a doctor. Yeah. I'm like, no, I just went. I let them kind of take over. Like, I can't tell you how quick. They do the doctoring. Once the equipment came out, I wasn't like, oh, let's see if I can pick up any skills here.

Maybe save some money on medical school. Yeah. So anyhow, so I got this going on, which is pretty cool. Gotcha. Yeah. I went to, go ahead. You were you going to talk about going to the movies? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I texted you last night, and I will say you kind of led me astray. I don't want to throw shit. Well, I do have something in my defense, but go on. All right, so you go to movies. I do not go to movies. I mean, I love movies. It's just like, you know, my kids and whatever.

Yeah. I've gone to movies, but I wanted to see weapons. Everybody's talking about weapons. It's Monday night. I see weapons. I like, I like, I'm going to go check it out. So I realize that the ticket I want is listed as a 4DX ticket. And I'm wondering what 40X is. I don't know if that's sound.

I don't know if that's 3D. So I write my old brother of mine, Pashi, and I'm like, what do you know about this 40X? And what did you tell me? I said, it's fun. And there are settings on the seat for intensity, and you can turn it off. And if you turn it off, then you're just, like, in a seat and no problem.

So if you don't like the sort of the movement, the moving around. Then you can turn it off. Anyway, I'm walking in this theater. Feeling like a million bucks. Cock of the walk. Yeah. Because I've timed it.

I'm 15 minutes after the ticket says. Oh, right. Which is dream. So, like, you're missing all the trailers. Yeah. By the way, still full trailers and I get there. Oh, sure, sure. Full theater.

And when I bought my ticket, there were only like three open seats, which, by the way, Bravo weapons on a Monday night in New York City. Yeah. But I'm going to my seat. And now, previous have started, but, like, the movie hasn't started. The guy next to me in my seat has the biggest tub of popcorn on my seat. Also, somehow already seven dirty napkins.

Yeah. And I think he's, like, you know, he's just been buttering his hands in this big old tub of popcorn and, like, just wiping him up and throw it. Now, to his credit, he sees me and he's like, oh, man, I'm so sorry. Immediately knew he was in the wrong. Sure. And, uh, but then he picks up the tub and all his napkins. And then there's like a thousand kernels and he's like brushing him off. And I don't feel like I, first of all, I don't want to help.

With his butterfingers. With his butter fingers, no less. He's buttering the seat now. And, uh, and he's like brushing him off. And I don't want, you know, it's not that I don't want to help. It's just like, I don't want to like our hands to touch while we're like butter brushing. It's finally have, you know, and then I'm standing up during previews. I feel bad because I'm in front of people.

Uh, anyway, then I sit down and it's, uh, the trailer for the running man. Uh-huh. And my seat starts jerking back and forth. I mean, like a tire swing in a hurricane. It's like, whoa. Oh. Wow. And a guy goes, yeah, because now he and I are, you know, he were friends. And he's like, right. Yeah, man, it really jerks you around. I'm like, can you turn it off? Because, again, I'd be given information from you that you could. And he goes, no, man, you can only turn off the spray because there's like a water spray. And sure enough, I look down and there's one button That's like water on and off And I mean, Pashi, maybe it was just

Because the Running Man trailer But like it was nonstop jerkin And then like I mean like a 80 year old woman Who did not care for the service at a restaurant Like I stood up and I'm like, I'm out And that's it, you left I left and it was not a cheap movie ticket

That I had to eat You pay for that You can pay for that experience. So what's your defense? Well, my defense is the one time I have seen a movie like this. It was like a very quiet drama. No, no, no. I said it was like it was a Godzilla versus King Kong kind of movie.

I saw the materialists. Jill, 40X. Jill and her kids. And in L.A. where I've gone to see them, the seat, they're called D-box. Like, do you want these D-box tickets? And I assume... You're a D-Box for not telling me how A-O-O-L-L was going to be. I assume the D-Box and 4DX is the same type of party.

Right. I've only had occasion to be in such a seat one time, and it was a D-box seat. Got it. Which you could turn off to level 1, 2, or 3. Yeah. So I apologize that I assumed my knowledge of the D-box was equivalent knowledge of 4DX, Right. But they're not.

They're not. And I will send you an invoice for the ticket. Also, you know what? When it was herkin and jerkin, I kept sliding onto the floor. You know why? Why is that? My seat had been buttered. Hassan Minaj is a fantastic comedian.

You might know him from Patriot Act. Homecoming King. It's one of his many specials. He's on tour this summer with another, maybe not the summer. I think starting in the fall with another family. Trips guest, Ronnie Chang. Yeah. Oh, I think it's King's Jester.

It is the King's Jester. You're right, I'm sorry. I'm coming King. You were probably talking about yourself because you were the Homecoming King. I was in the Homecoming King court. I did not win. But I was, I was somewhere around. Were you the Harvest King?

No, I wasn't the Harvest King. I was the Harvest King. You were the Harvest King. Look at you. We were, it was a real monarchy at Manchester West High School. Uh, he also, you might know him from The Daily Show, which is, uh, uh, obviously, um, hold on. I am sorry. He also, he's a homecoming king. He also has a special called Homecoming King. For real? Yeah.

Yeah. Hold on real quick. Now I'm, I'm very careful. This is, this is what people like. You're right now, you're worried because you're like, this isn't good. Oh, yeah, yeah, he does. He does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't try to sell me out. King. King's Jester. I mean, he's got a lot of king. He might. He might have a bit of a king's, whatever you call it. King Complex?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, off of his head. By the way, his last one was called Off With His Head, which is another great special, and that also has some Kingsley vibes to it. It sure does, yeah. Yeah. Something tells me there's a theme.

Yeah, you've got to be really playing the long game when you theme name all your specials, but they're all really good. He's a great conversation, so do please enjoy our time with Hassan. My brother's family chips with the mildest brothers. Here we go. Wow.

How are you? How are you? You look like a real, like, consiglieri. And, like, it's a very nice setup you got there. Are you looking to go anywhere in the city that I can... It's, yeah, I didn't realize how, like, that you're very, like, sort of fashionably slick back hair would pop in front of wood paneling.

Like, that's really what's going on for me. Yeah, it's very concierge desk now that I see my... I meant concierge, like, sort of dealing with a... Yeah, he meant, you know, a mafia, godfather. Oh, oh, oh, this, this way. Okay, got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was elevating you above what you took that out. He said consigliary and you heard conciergy.

I heard concierge. Now, Austin, I'm very excited because you're the first guest on our show who, in preparation, you gave us a little research, too. You sent us a 30-second video for a theme park. A 30-second promo YouTube video. I want to, what is it called? I've never heard of it. Marine World Africa. Marine U.S. Africa, USA, which is a terrible name.

Yeah. Horrible. You guys had never heard of this. I had never heard of Marine World Africa, USA. Tell us more. So, we have context. I grew up in the Sacramento area, which is Northern California, Davis, California, specifically. Both of my parents, my mother still works for the VA. right next to the Maytheir Air Force Base,

father, state employee for the state of California. So that's what brought us there. But Marine World Africa, USA was a theme park slash dinosaur exhibit slash quasi-torture facility for animals. That was located in Vallejo, California. That's halfway between where Sacramento, is and the Bay Area is. So it is technically

Bay Area, but they built this theme park in the 70s slash 80s that was this combination it was a theme park it was like it had a killer whale and then it had a huge

dinosaur exhibit, but they were just animatronic dinosaurs. Yeah, one of those dinosaurs has like blood all around his mouth. It's like clearly eating some other dinosaur

We're gonna put it in the show notes I can't it's a 30 second commercial Local commercial for this They pack a lot into that Yeah there's like seven giant It's like I think you should leave sketch With how many crazy Like tone shifts there are in the 30 seconds

Yes So in the 30 second spot You will see You will see like a jet ski show You will see a killer wild show Uh huh Dolphins doing this kind of like vertical perpendicular dance, which is still pretty cool.

I mean, it's sure. I always like a vertical dolphin. I'm never going to say is, there's nothing shabby about that. Yeah, a tiger. And then a family having fun. And you can see it all at Marine World Africa, USA. And lots of dinosaurs. Yeah.

And dinosaurs. What is the Africa referring to? Is that where the dinosaurs are from? I think, I think Africa is to explain why. they have flamingos and the tiger. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you have a

tiger here? But it's so funny because like the San Diego Zoo chose not to have Africa in its title and I think people aren't like freaked out when they see tigers. Like that animal's not supposed to be here. That's not from San Diego. Do you guys ever have this with like pitching a show when you have to do the logline of a show? They go, so what

is the show? Yeah. This is Marine World Africa, USA. This is what all theme parks would be named if they had to go through the pitching process. Yeah. It's like roller coaster

hot dog America. Right. It's like Breaking Bad meets the bear meets Africa. Yeah. So this was a park that you went to, I'm guessing?

Yes, many a time. Many a time. So I would just, I will just jump in and say how very funny it would be if your answer was. I've never been. Just thought it would.

And I'm hoping you guys will pay for me to go. Well, well, see, the thing, it's close. It's defunct now. So if you go, if you go on YouTube, by the way, there's a bunch of, like, YouTube documentaries about Marine World Africa, USA. And the title in all of them is, it's almost like blackface meets a theme park. They're like, this could never happen today. What they did was wrong.

they should not have a Bengal tiger in Vallejo like this is all the animals are being there should not be a chimpanzee there next to a Nike outlet all of this is weird so it's like they're giving

all this historical context but um so the story is I sent you guys some photos from 1993 and for us growing up family trips where I'm one of two families

my family's originally from India were one of two families that arrived in the United States. So my dad came in 1982. His older sister co-sponsored his visa to bring him here. But a very common thing would be is every year you would

have family from the motherland come visit. And those were our family vacations. It was like we have to show them America. And so we went to one of three places. We would go to Marine World Africa, USA, Lake Tahoe, even though none of us skied, and no one in India, like, if we live in Delhi, we go to Lake Tahoe, but we wouldn't ski, we would sled and

like just stand in front of snow. Yeah. And then you go to downtown San Francisco. You'd go to San Francisco and, like, go to the pier and be like, look, look at this amazing, beautiful downtown. But the photos that I sent you was in 1993, the summer that my cousin, Fizz, who lives in Bangalore, came and visited us, and we took him to go to Marine World Africa, USA. And it was a huge deal because the year they did their dinosaur exhibit was the same year Jurassic Park came out. Yeah. Oh.

It was a big deal. Probably, I would imagine one might have had a little bit to do with the other. Or maybe Marine World Africa, USA had to start their dinosaur planning years in advance, and it was just good timing. Who knows? Yeah. Possibly. And they're like, they beat us to the pitch. And yeah, like the, you can see the taradactyl. It's like old and animatronic. It didn't look like it took years to put together

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yeah so so hot and so the the trips were incredibly painful we would be notoriously dehydrated and

I think there were two types of families but there's nothing that like you really test the dynamics socially and economically of where a family is based on how they behave in a theme park in my opinion yeah like you You have a pretty good sense of everyone's worst instincts in that.

When family would visit, how much family would visit? Like, how big a group were you rolling into Marine World, Africa, USA? Yeah, so Fizz, that's another four. So we're like eight deep. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, so I had a cousin. He's my age. She's a little bit older than me.

And then we had another cousin. She was my sister's age. And so that's four kids, two parents on each side, two Camrys, load it up, let's go. Yeah. And was Fez impressed? Fez was quite impressed. I mean, we did go. So he arrives.

We go to the holiday cinema, which is the local movie theater in Davis, still exists. And we went to go see like an evening showing of Jurassic Park. And it was fucking awesome. For an eight-year-old, like. Oh, my God. It was incredible. He was two or three years older than me. And so it was equally awesome for him.

And then that weekend, we went to Marine World Africa, USA. Do you wish you'd done it in the reverse order and seen those teradactals first? Yeah. It actually would have been more comical. It would have been great. What is your, when Fez shows up, like, how well do you know him? I would imagine having family in India, like, obviously you know their family, but I can't imagine you're seeing each other that often. you don't know each other particularly well,

but there is this thing that is still common to this day, because I have a five-year-old son, I have a seven-year-old daughter, a five-year-old son. When you see a boy hang out with older boys, if a five-year-old hangs out with an eight-year-old or an eight-year-old hangs out with an 11-year-old, or even my son sometimes with 12-year-olds, will try to, like, upsell how cool he is to seven-graders.

And it's pretty, it's very endearing because he's giving it his all. they could give a shit about him but he actually doesn't he doesn't know that he's bombing like he's kind of like upselling his room and I did the same thing like when Fiz came like this is my room

like you're gonna stay here and so he wasn't like my nemesis and we're still very cool to this day and he ended up coming to law school he lived in New York so when I first got hired at the Daily Show I stayed with him like so we stayed close for years and years

and years but I do remember distinctly like there was anticipation in the air that he's coming. And yeah, I felt like a U.S. ambassador. I felt pretty freaking cool. Did you have cool points for being the American? I mean, was Fez? Do you think, and yeah. 100%. And like, you know, it reminds me, you know, while we're having this conversation, we're seeing like American institutions crumbling. Yeah. But 1993 American institutions, my own, like, oh my god they were great like that year you got to think about manhattan in 1993 we're talking about home alone to manhattan right yeah like we're talking about clinton one pre luensky we're

talking about um i i think we it was the first time we had a budget surplus as a country as well which is like in all of these things sound insane to say yeah but yeah everything was really really shiny and pretty great institutions-wise. I mean, I remember, you know, to go back there, I remember just seeing the Jurassic Park trailer on TV the first time. Yeah. And thinking, this is the greatest country in the world. Totally.

President's playing the saxophone and everyone's just out. Yeah, we're listening to Flewwood Mac again. Oh, what a time. I was like, that's soft power. And now we're like, yeah. Jake Paul's going to fight Mike Tyson. That's America. We had...

We just went on a trip back to Amsterdam where we used to live and I brought my nine-year-old and he was hanging out with a kid who was like 13. And it's so funny because I was going back through the pictures and you look at the photos and it's most of my son has ever smiled in any photo he takes with this kid and the other one looks like a cardboard cutout.

Every photo he looks exactly the same because it's almost like he doesn't want to get caught on film looking excited to be with a nine-year-old but it was so cool, so cool for Ash. And I'm really happy he got that vibe. Yeah, Ash kept wanting to like ride those rides and sit with our, you know, our buddy Jill's son, Jackson. And Jackson was just sort of like, all right.

Yeah. Meanwhile, I'm desperate. It was the first time my son was on a roller coaster. I was like desperate to ride with him. He's like, no, man, I'm going with Jackson. I'm like, fine. All right. Share it with Jackson.

He's super into it. Do you remember, do you guys remember being nine? Do you remember being that age? I think so. I'm not great with memory, but I, you know, I, I remember places and I remember certain, like, you know, holidays, but I don't have. I don't, I think my answer is no, and my wife, I feel like could write, like, a word for word exactly what happened when she was nine. I think it's fascinating to be married to someone with a photographic memory for things and, and, but I don't do you how are you with nine very good I'm like super very like clear like I know how

the Sacramento Kings did that year I know who played in the NBA finals I remember the OJ Simpson chase they stopped the Knicks were playing the rockets they stopped again I mean yeah I remember I was in Craig Bouchard's basement for that one yeah yeah yeah I remember like there's also distinct memories because as kids, I don't know. So in California, this like camp culture isn't a thing. When I moved to New York, I realized in the northeast, this going to camp is a big thing. But in the, in California, it was just like you're either on a soccer team, a basketball team, or just backyard vibes. Yeah. You're just going to Conner's backyard to play with his older brother or you're playing like two hand touch football at the park. Like, that's really, it was just that.

And so I remember distinct moments in that way of like, oh, Michael had a pool and we would go to his pool and then, like, he had an older sister and she would invite your friends. Like, I distinctly remember those things. Yeah. And you had, you have a younger sister as well, yeah? I have a younger sister, yes. And a strange, because your mom was back and forth to India. Yeah. She was going to medical school.

She was going to medical school. She almost across to the country to complete her degree. She did her residency in New York. Then she did her rotations in Stockton, California, which is like close but far from Davis when we grew up. It's like it's quite a drive. And then me and my dad were in Davis. And then my sister was raised by my grandparents in Delhi. So this is like we were, yeah, we were actually.

actually, like, kind of like a traveling visa situation. So for most of your sort of younger years, it was you and your dad were the unit. In my pops. Yes. Gotcha. And so that kind of trip to Marine World was also, I think it was like year one or year two that Aisha, my younger sister's back. Cousins from India are coming.

I'm eight slash nine years old. So I'm kind of like coming into my own too, where I, like, I feel like a. teenager, but I'm still like a kid at heart. So, yeah, it was a good time. I think in the photo that I sent you, I'm wearing a t-shirt that has my name on it. Which is so weird. My aunt, my aunt who brought my dad over, she owned a t-shirt store. So if you've ever been to Sacramento, there's a place called Old Sacramento, which is just like, it's a tourist trap.

It's like, it's the river by like laughy-taffy. and then, like, go to, uh, go to, like, an old-timey railroad museum. She owned a little store that would do these, um, they would do quasi, like, uh, almost like Etsy t-shirts. So they would have, like, a shirt instead of top gun, it would say top duck. All right. And it would be like a duck, dude. Sounds like a good shirt for an eight-year-old man.

The plane, you know, and so she sold a ton of those. And at the time, for some reason, one of her highest sellers would kids would come in with their parents and they'd be like just put brandon across the chest for my birthday she just got me a t-shirt that said like my name and i thought it was so cool i'm like that's my it's my name on a t-shirt how cool is that yeah that gave you a taste you're like oh i gotta be famous i want this vibe but not just on the shirt yeah but now as a parent i'm like how why did anyone allow this it's so funny there's no there's no world where I would put my children's names on like a t-shirt and walk around. Yeah, I'm always a little, I mean, I, you know, my kids, like, I got them, like, personalized soccer jerseys with their last name on it. I'm like, this was so dumb. Just walking around. Are you, uh, did you ever take a trip to India when you were a little? So we took the first trip was when my, my sister was two months old. I was four at the time. So I don't even remember this trip. We dropped her off with my grandparents.

And then we came back. We would start coming like third grade, fourth grade. Then I would start to go. Got it. Like they're, now I go, I go twice a year now. Like, I go see my family there all the time. It's super fun. I would say, have you guys ever been?

I haven't, Josh, Seth? No. Oh, my. Yeah. My wife has. I've not. No, it's a must, like, you got to check it off. Great.

So this is, because I feel like this is a place. I think they're, you know, I think this is weirdly, like, India is like very much based on, like, certain people have read certain fiction and are like, oh my God, I want, like, I want to go there so badly. What is the draw? Like, if you were someone who didn't have family there, what's the trip? Okay, so I'd recommend two things. There's a book called Shantaram. Have you guys read that? That's the book.

That's the one where everybody, I feel like everybody's read Shantarab, like, just, like, it has an it. Yeah, because Rang's a book, right? And so, like, here's what it is. And obviously born in the States, you know, grew up in Davis, NorCal, 916530, as American as it can get. But one of the things Americans and what I mean about that is like the country really struggles with is we are not good at grappling with paradox to things being true at once. And if you go to India and you go to Delhi or if you go to Bombay, everything everywhere all at once is happening. Like Spider-Man across the spider-verse, every version of the multiverse is happening. And you just have to be okay with that.

So I'll give you a common example. So one of my cousins right now is supposed to get married in October. I got a WhatsApp from my dad being like, the wedding is off. I go, cool, dad should me and Bina cancel the United flight? And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't jump to that. And that perfectly summarizes India of like things are true and not true at the same time.

Right. Getting married? No. But he totally is getting married in October. Like both of these things are happening. And like one of the cool things that Shantaram, you can just see is like all of that, all of that is happening of like modernity,

classicism, antiquity. Like you will see an ancient Mughal fort. you will see still like these little beautiful almost like vestiges of a British colonial past right you'll see the big welcoming gates for the queen that like that's on the water um in Mumbai a bustling downtown and then but it's it's everything so it's all of those things just happening at once you'll see like a bizarre as if you're in like alibaba and the 40 thieves like this kind of like night market but then it's it's next to an undaz hotel that's like beautiful it's the Taj Palace. So it's all of those happening at once that make it such a very vibrant, robust city versus what New York has now become, which is essentially Hudson Yards. Like it's, it's all just become a version of Dubai of like, there's another H&F. Yeah. Do you think you have to be like wired a certain way to fully appreciate an Indian vacation? I think go, me and you, we're going to, we should go. Okay. It would be would be so fun. We should let's just do a field piece for the

show, it would be so much fun. Do you need a guide, or do you just do it? I feel like my sort of impression, and Chantaram doesn't make me think differently about this, is that there will be people approaching me saying that they're going to help me out and take me to, like, good places. And I don't know if I should trust those people. Don't trust those people. Okay.

No. Yeah. You should go with a friend. Yeah. And I do want to just jump in and just. in case we're making this clear. Josh, don't go anywhere with people when you're on vacation who said they want to take you.

I did do that when I was in Thailand. It didn't work out well. But like, don't do it in Indianapolis. Like, it's not about like foreign lands. That's true, too. It's like you landed at an airport. Yeah, in Charlotte. Right.

Like, I watched you around. The first time I came to New York, I remember I came in on Penn Station and I had a, because I was coming to move, I was coming for a summer for an internship. And I walked out. And the guy was like, you need a taxi? And I was like, I do need a taxi. He's like, 20 bucks. And so I gave 20 bucks to a guy. And then he walked me to a taxi. And I got in the taxi and he closed the door. And I realized, that guy doesn't work for this taxi. Like, I just gave $20 to a dude to walk me to a taxi. And I was like, I even said to the driver, I'm like, hey, this might sound dumb. I just gave $20 to that guy. Is that? He's like, no, man. I was like, oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Right, right, right.

Yeah. A thing it'll also test is like your internal intuition, which yeah. Yeah, I would imagine. You need to like, yeah, it's been Uber Eats and DoorDash has dulled that, but you have to kind of really grapple and reconcile with that there. But what's also cool, and again, this was always a culture shift for me, which was the moment you enter someone's house, the hospitality and warmth and all of that. Like, you are accounted for and taken care of. Your itinerary is done. Do you have to deal with meeting their parents and everything being, like, emotionally overbeating.

But in exchange for that, you literally do not have to go on TripAdvisor.com. Like, everything is covered, like a street eatery to a restaurant to, like, what you're going to do day to day. It's done for and covered, yeah. You go back twice a year. Do you and Bina always bring the kids?

Yes, we bring the kids. Yeah. Gotcha. And then what is, I mean, it's not nothing to fly to India. So how long are you there for? Depending on like, so there's the stand-up schedule or winter break. So for us, you know this, like, kind of in showbiz, December 19th to January 7th, everybody's like pencils down. Yeah.

For some reason. these pencils down. And so growing up in a Muslim household, we didn't celebrate Christmas. So Christmas was super depressing because I just remember as a kid, Christmas was the time where none of my friends could hang out. Right. So I'd go to like Chris's house and he's like, sorry, like my, like my grandparents are here, like my aunts here. Like, so December 24th, December 25th was just a wrap. And so as we got older, we would just start using winter breaks as the time to go. because the weather actually in India's It's not super hot

It's their winter as well And then you can you can spend Two and a half weeks But by the way, I came to find out That Christmas quite Underwhelming Christmas Day Yeah Well, I mean it depends

It's like Just shorter than you think Like as far as like the part that's actually Christmas So you guys would open presents in the morning And then you're done by like one I mean Well, we wake. I mean, we wake up. We probably wake up before our parents. We open our stockings before our parents wake up. Parents come downstairs. Mom makes breakfast. We have sort of a big breakfast. Then we open presents kind of slowly. Then there's football on. So we're watching football. If we have toys, if we're young enough for toys, we sort of are putting those toys together, playing with those. And there's a big dinner. Usually watch a movie. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like, I feel like, I feel like. Like, our Christmas days here are pretty packed.

But it's a lot of just a day off to do stuff you would do on other days off. Wait, what do you? Like the foot, like saying like we watch a movie. Like, you know, that's not like Christmas. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I have a different, I have a different take on it. You know, you know the NFL, right, Hassan?

Christmas. Of course. Christmas. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Christmas. We have dinner. Christmas.

Yeah, well, actually, actually Do you got a holiday you're going to sell us on? What do you got? What do you got that's better than Christmas? Oh, what's better than Christmas? Yeah. You're being such a, you know,

looking down your nose at Christmas. I would. No, actually, you know what I was asking? I was asking, like, why couldn't I go to Chris's house? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's very much that you could.

I guess there's maybe a more religious Christmas than the one we were having posh. Like, it was a pretty second Christmas. Yeah, I think Christmas is very much like you invite people over and you get together with friends and yeah it's not super insular we used to have extended family come over but if friends wanted to come by absolutely yeah so i don't know i don't know what's what chris's deal is and he's like i really want to hang out with my grandparents today yeah this might chris chris might have just maybe not that been that into you yeah

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Join FitBod today to get your personalized workout plan, get 25% off your subscription, or try the app. Free for seven days at FitBod.me slash trip. That's F-I-T-B-O-D-M-E-slash-Trip. Hey, I do want to, you mentioned Lake Tahoe and having your cousins visit and be in the snow. So that must have been a different time of year, probably not a summer trip. But I have to ask You can go to Lake Tahoe in the summer as well because it's like it's just

It's just really beautiful But sledding We're obviously non-skiers Was it a huge deal To come and sled? I loved it. I really love sledding And I would say this

And I would say it seriously In college of like They'd go like so you you grew up in Davis So you'd go to oh that's so cool You're so close to Tahoe Did you ski? I was like no of course horse we didn't have like the money to ski but we go sledding and they people would laugh at me

they'd be like are you nine years old i was like well it is pretty fun yeah and you were nine years old that when you were nine i mean i'm not gonna lie like i did it up through like my junior year like you take the top of a trash can and let it rip it is yeah quite fun i was my boys were boogie boarding this weekend on the waves and then a grandparent of one of my son's friends. He went in with a boogie board and he was like, you still do it. He goes, yeah, the reason I do it is whenever you're on a boogie board, you're nine years old. He was like, there's no way to be on a wave and not feel nine. So he goes, it's not that I'm too old to boogie board.

It's that when I boogie board, I'm exactly as old as everybody else at a boogie board. I was like, oh, that's a nice way thinking about it. So I do think if someone's like, are you nine? You're like, yes, I am when I'm on my sled. Hilarious. Same. By the way, I feel the same way when I'm playing basketball. Like, it's my body that's betraying me.

But when I hoop, I'm still, it's still that feeling of like playing during the summer. Where was the closest hoop to your house growing up? We had a, we lived on a cul-de-sac. We did too. Yeah, cul-de-sacs are the best. Did you guys have cul-de-sac kids that you play? We had, I mean, the street leading up, yeah, the street, you know, dead ended at that cul-de-sac and it was a little hill. So there were a lot of kids that lived on the street

that you would just, yeah, you would hang out with because we were all there. Yeah, it was awesome. We had cul-de-sac kids. And it was great. Like older things that had all the cool stuff. So I remember Connor had an older brother. He had the Nerf gun. He had the Nerf Bowen Arrow. They had Sega Genesis. So it was really cool that they, I got to see kind of what the upper division classes of cool were. Of like, oh, this is what's to look forward to. And so I was able to absorb a lot of that cool stuff. But yeah, we had, we had a hoop in the, in the middle of the cul-de, like kind of in the U of the cul-de-sac. And the kids would be there. And we would play that and two-hand touch. So that's actually how I

got into basketball. It was just like a social activity to hang with the older kids. Were they mostly older when you were playing basketball? Did you tend to historically be the youngest person? There was four of us that were my age, fourth graders. And then there was like four or five kind of like seventh, eighth, ninth, but like there was like a couple tenth graders. And to me like a tenth grader, if you're in the fourth grade,

I'm like, so you're 47 years old. Right. Yeah, you can vote. You can be pregnant. You're like, you probably shave. Yeah, you have a car, you can shape. Like, so you're, you're, like, you're a, a version of my dad with better metabolism, essentially.

Yeah. We, our parents are very kind, and after begging, they did build us a hoop. Yeah. Okay. I wouldn't say it got the use out of it. In-ground? Or the movable one?

In-ground. In-ground, an in-ground hoop. But our cul-de-sac a little bit on a, on an angle. Yeah. Okay. Like, not it was, yeah, like, we're, just at the top of a hill and so like if a shot was missed

like you should only rebound to the left of the rim. You know what I mean? But do you think we gave it enough use for how much we begged for it, Posh? I think so. I think if you were to take the amount of the dollars it cost to put that thing in and divided it, I bet we used it enough.

Yeah, but there was a stretch in the middle of our street that was like this one flat stretch and that was sort of like that was the football field. That was where sort of the bikes would just be going around in circles for hours every day

after school. Hey, quick question. Do you guys have sisters? Do you have, was there just us? Okay. It would be so great if we had them, but we wouldn't let them on this because podcasts are only, podcasts are only for boys.

Yeah. Well, okay, this is going to be, this isn't, This is just a kind of a tangent slash bizarre tape. But I have this firm belief that the sense of humor that siblings have, like if a girl has a brother or a brother or a boy has a sister, the sense of humor they have is very different than a girl who just has sisters. Oh, I mean, I have a daughter with two older brothers and she definitely has a different sense of humor.

I mean, she's learning it from that more than she's learning it from anybody else. Yeah, like, I would sometimes hang out. It's, do you think it's for the best? I think it's for the best. I think it's like you can speak two languages. 100%. You can speak French and Spanish. You don't have.

Yes. Yes. So I, my sister has been in rooms before where she knows what a stone cold stunner is. Like, do a group of girls. They're like, what are you talking about? She's like, it's stone cold Steve Austin's Finnish. sure like bring a beer he would flip you off and then slay on me and they're like what is that and they're like oh she would watch like she would watch monday night rock we would watch it together

and so we have this sensibility that i think um my friends that just grew up with sisters don't yeah i will say like having two older brothers has given my daughter addie like a weird like sometimes she gets a cause uh sorry causal relationship wrong like she is still in a crib and the other day she's like I can't wait till I grow a penis so I can get my own bed we're like oh no that's not why they have a bed you're just too young I know that I know the people with penises have beds here but that has nothing to do with why you don't have a bed is also something so it's so bizarre to say this but like you do still physically fight which is a weird thing.

Like, you know, my sister and I, I'm 39, she's 35. We are very close. I love her dearly. But I do remember, like, in the sixth grade, like, I would, we would, like, we would scrap, which is a very bizarre thing, you know. But there is some. Yeah, like, because she's a little, she would be a little scrapper then. The little scrapper.

Yeah. Yeah. But there would be, like, physical boxing out and like, yeah, like. Like, you're too small, you know? It's fun when a girl realizes the, I mean, again, it would take, it'll take years of her starting it before we believe she started it. You know what I mean like? Like, if she decides to just be a little shitter,

she'll get away with it forever. Because she is of the age every time one of the boys is like, Addy hit me. If I dig into it, it's like, yes, I did hit her first. You know what I mean? How are yours? is you have one of each, right? I have seven and five, yeah.

So I have an older daughter and then a younger son. Gotcha. And is she crassence? Is she patient with him? Zero patience. Yeah. Zero tolerance. It is.

I'm knowing, as you know from having a five-year-old, you require a great deal of patience to be around a five-year-old boy. So she just doesn't have any, huh? Yeah. And then also, it's not a fair fight because she is, she's just pulling 4D chess with. him you know like she knows how to play the mind games to get into his head um and there's moments where like she'll say stuff that's so loaded um where i'm like it would be better if you just hit him

you know because we have the nest camp well i'll hear what's happening like i don't need to that that remember how like our dads would come and be like what's going on in here it's like i know i know what's going on yeah yeah we can we can we can do the play by play like i'll the nest cam i mean i think that if you're not a modern parent, if you either had kids a long time ago or you don't have them. Like, it is a full security camera. Yep. Like a high risk. And again, we got it because we wanted to be able to see if our kids were sleeping or they were safe. But now it's just snitch city. Totally. Like, I'm just, it's the full police state as used by parents. 100%. But it is so funny when my boys come in and they'll argue, they'll tell me what happened.

And then we're like, you know, we got a camera. And then, like, the truth comes out. It's the best. Yeah, yeah. And, like, unlike the NBA, it's like, we don't get two replays a game. Right. Yeah, we can go to it whatever we want. Yeah, whenever we want.

It'd be so funny if they negotiated NBA rules with us. Like, if they came to us as, like, a kid's union. Yeah. And it was like, you get to check it three times a month. Sure, sure. Well, it's definitely coming. Like, they will become teenagers and they're going to turn the camera around. We're going to have to turn it off before that.

We have to, like, find a time to be. Like, it will be better if we say it, like, we trust you now as opposed to them begging for. So, so, guys, I mean, this is the moment that I'm most terrified about. And, like, bits aside, what happens when they discover mommy and daddy's eye message? Like, there is nothing more terrifying to me than that. You know, I've been married 10 years. Right. And in one day, like, I can just imagine my daughter being 16 and being like, let's go through this.

Let's really see what's going on. Because we all got to see mom and dad get into disagreements, but there was always the, like, separation of church. Like, they did it to go else or, like, we had this thing in our head where we're putting the pieces of the puzzle together. But there is this very, very terrifying digital paper trail of everything. You think that your kids will one day gain access to your text thread between you and your wife? I've had a couple of friends. This is going to be dark, but I'll let me, I'll answer that. I've had a couple of friends whose parents have passed away.

And they have told me, they were like, get your dad's email address now. Get his Yahoo email address now. Like, find out where he keeps, where he has stuff. for mom, like go into his computer room where he has his compact pressario, go through the filing cabinet, go past the Windows 95 CD-ROMs and in Carta encyclopedias, find out like where all the stuff is. God forbid he passes. You have all that. You know what the bank account numbers are. You can give that to mom and everything's taken. You know what I mean? Those. Yeah. Yeah. The fact that I'm going through that, I was like, oh, the tables will turn on me

as well. Yeah. There's no way it's not going to happen where I'll be asleep one day. They'll pull face recognition out and just my kids will page 6.com me. It's going to happen. And I was like, just let's prep. It's a black mirror episode in my mind. Yeah, but don't you think there's a chance that they access, you know, this text thread and they just find it all so boring that they don't they're not willing to scroll back the years to see how you're talking smack about your son and daughter sure yeah yeah it'll just all be like random pick up text messages and like i i've got to be honest i mean i delete text threads

all the time good for you like yeah i mean by the way you know i i'm i basically assume that there's a nes cam on me at all times as well i i live in no comfort So you've been living like a whistleblower. I've been living like a whistleblower 100%. Hey, I do want to ask, because in the fall, you're doing stand-up dates with Ronnie? Yes, unfortunately. Have you guys done it before?

There's Ronnie Chang, obviously, also on the pod. We love Ronnie. Have you guys done on tour before? We've never toured together before. We have done sets where we bum-rush the stage. while one is on stage at the comedy seller the other will come up

and bum rush them and so we thought like this is a fight to the death and it generally descends into chaos is the plan that you'll be on stage together the whole time? We will be on stage together

and so much like Marine World Africa USA that is in the premise of the show Hassan hates Ronnie Ronnie hates Hassan a debate to the death Oh wonderful. Yeah I mean we've had many alternative titles You know, we... I like the title a lot.

It's a very good title. Yeah, Hudson fights Ronnie on stage, literally for money. We were going to... We had many alt titles, but yeah, it's going to be like, almost like a CNN town hall meets Eric Andre's show on Acid. That's really exciting to hear. I am a fan of both of your comedic voices, and I think it'll be very cool that you are doing that together.

I'm excited. It's going to be really, really fun. It's always such a delight to talk to you, Hassan. But before we let you go... Yeah. Josh is going to speed round you real quick. Let's do it. All right, some quick questions here.

You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? 100% relaxing. Great. What is your favorite means of transportation? Acella. If you could take a vacation, that's a beautiful train.

I love the cella, too. It could be a lot better, but I still love it. I just did the Acella to D.C. It was spectacular. It's the best. Yeah. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family?

What family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh, who's, like, I could pick any family. Yeah, any family. Yeah, Chris's family. Christmas Day. Great. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And by the way, don't run from it. You're mad about it. Chris is one of De Bois, so he, like, he watches all my stuff. Like, he's one of, like, my friends since, I'm not kidding, like, second grade. Yeah. So when he watches this, he'll know what it is. All right. Good. Yeah. Also, if, you know, if you happen to not be traveling over Christmas break one year, I think, I think just show up with your whole family and see how it goes.

I wanted to do, you know, it's funny. I wanted to do, when I had a show on Netflix called Patriot Act, I wanted to do a field piece called like Hussein Experiences Christmas. I'm not joking. Like, I'd go to the Myers household and be like, what is this? And I'm on the 23rd through the 26th to find out what. what was this unknown chasm like no one could play outside what was happening

you know yeah i don't know it sounds like it was a weird weird scene up in davis because we were outside there was a lot of like snowball fights building forts oh cool yeah yeah um if you had to be stranded on a desert island

with one member of your family who would it be stranded on desert island 100% my sister I mean, my parents are now, dad is born in 1950, so dad is 75, mom is 64. Yeah, okay. And my mom's iPad and my dad's phone have made it worse. Like, it's aged them an additional 10 years. Right.

Gotcha. So for sure, my sister. Yes. My sister. Great. You're from Davis, California, correct? Yeah. Would you recommend Davis as a vacation destination?

This is going to be on the internet, and I'm going to get roasted for this. No, no, no, people very often don't recommend their hometowns. A lot of people said I love my hometown, but I, you know, I wouldn't take a vacation there. Look, I have said this unapologetically. I've said this on ESPN. I do rep the area pretty hard. I think Davis and Sacramento is great. We get made fun of in relation to the Bay Area or Los Angeles.

Sure. But 85% of Americans live in the equivalent of Sacramento. Like, you're not better than me. we have a jamba juice and a malt too. Right, right, right. You have a weird Barnes & Noble that is like somewhat vacant and kind of trashy. You also have a marshals with a Ross across the street as well.

Like, don't act like you're better than me because you live in Plano, Texas. So it is super fun. It is a very fun city. But what's cool about it is you also have a college town which has like all like the the kitchen, the cork that like Madison, Wisconsin has. And then you also have like, you got one major city.

You got a sports team. You got the Kings and you got downtown and you have like congressional get gridlock and the Kings like they like make the playoffs once every 30 years which is pretty cool, right? They do and they let you down and yeah. Yeah. And then they light the beam.

They're saving a lot of energy on that beam. Seth has our final questions. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? Yes. Was it worth it? No. Thank you. for your time and your honesty.

Wait, can I ask you guys a question? This won't make the pod. You can, or it will. And it may or may not. Is nature wasted on the youth? Yeah, I think to some degree, I mean, my kids, I think it's interesting. Like, my kids love being in nature, but I don't think they appreciate nature. I don't know if it matters if they appreciate it.

I don't know. I'm going to say, let me just say, I have New York kids. I think nature is not wasted on the youth. I think it's really important when they're there, and I think they appreciate it. So Ash will be like, wow, this is a sequoia. This is a beautiful, amazing thing. Can you believe that life?

You know, Ash goes to like a Saturday camp outside, and he will bore my fucking ass off talking about trees. And he loves tree information. Wait, what? Yeah, he loves, he'll be like, these are mustard greens, Dad. You can eat them. And I'm like, eh.

So he's like, like this is the genus this is the phylum this is like not fully that but he's like on he's on a phylum path oh yeah he's only nine yeah he's only years yeah but ash should meet my dad because my dad's an organic chemist oh there you know my dad's an organic chemist oh yeah yeah the greatest thing that happened is that my father-in-law started talking to my kids about nature instead of me oh I was like dying I mean I basically had kids so he could start pointing out like what kind of slug that is to them I think Ash is the exception. He's the asterisk.

Yeah, he's best. I think so. Yeah, I don't think kids are taking note of nature necessarily, but I think the more time they spend in it, the better they'll feel. And it's sort of, it's laying those, that foundation for a lifelong respect for it and sort of a need to get back to it from time to time, particularly for city kids. Gotcha. Okay.

Hassan, it's great to talk to you. I'm very excited. People should check out show dates. What do you guys start in October? October 3rd. And if Hassan hates Ronnie.com or Ronnie hateshusson.com, we bought both URLs. It would have been heartbreaking if you just found somebody by the URL. I hate Hassan and Ronnie.

Yeah, we haven't checked. Yeah, that's true. Someone probably did. All right. Great to talk to you, buddy. Love to your family. Thanks, man. Thank you.

Take care. All right, guys. See, guys. Peace. I'm going to be able to be. Back in the day Hassan would go to a special place a must do when his family would come to town. Located out in Vallejo was so fantastic, it's a wonder that this place is no longer around. Shows with Chinese acrobats, also a ball pit, a dolphin show.

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It was right here in the good old USA He travels back to India Recommends it as a fascinating place As everyone should go Such a long trip to South Asia Wouldn't it be great If there were other continents Closer to home

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And they didn't really make much sense Thank you. You know,