Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JASON SCHWARTZMAN RETURNS (And Went Overboard In Lake Tahoe)

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

This week on the pod, Seth and Josh welcome back Jason Schwartzman! That's right...our first guest to come back on the pod, Jason chats all about his move from Los Angeles to North Carolina, sparked by his family’s desire for a different lifestyle. He also shares stories from his childhood, including rocketry and puppetry camp, family trips, digitizing old home videos, and a scary river incident. Plus, Jason talks Disney and Universal adventures and his new Amazon show “Kevin,” where he voices a cat! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 ------------------------- Support our sponsors: Shipt Go to https://Shipt.com/offer and Use code ""podcast"" to get a year of Shipt for only $49 – HALF OFF the regular $99 price. Terms apply Butcherbox As an exclusive offer, new listeners can get their choice between chicken breast or top sirloin for a year OR ground beef for life, PLUS $20 off when you go to https://ButcherBox.com/trips Rula Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/TRIPS #rulapod ------------------------- Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. ------------------------- Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Baji. Hey, Sufi. How are you? I'm great. How are you? Good. We had a pretty cool visitor at our apartment this morning. I'm fascinated.

You want to guess? Visitor at the apartment. Lice. Oh, jeez. It was actually last night. So Adi, we went on vacation and Addy was scratching her head. My sister-in-law, Arie, I think she has lice. I'm like, no, we're just going to the beach every day.

She's got sand in her hair. Yeah. And then we came home last night. And, you know, we had one of those little lice combs. Yeah. Because you got to sort of fancy. Yeah. So, Alexi pulled the lice comb through her hair and then put it on a tissue paper.

And there was a little dot. And she was like, it felt tiny. She goes, can you take a picture of it with your phone and then zoom in? And she's like, what's taking so long? I'm like, I can't because the dot keeps moving. I was like, I can't get a picture of it. It's moving around too much. Oh, no, that's a process.

Well, you know what? I think like it's the best now that it's ever been, right? Like, we found, I think it's called Lice Mamas. Hashtack non-in-ad. For real. Like, we called up a place and they were being like, hey, what's up, Lines Mamas? Oh, yeah. And they came over.

and so they checked all their heads. Mm-hmm. I guess, did I have lice? I'm going to guess you did not. I had lice. I didn't have the most lice. Also, they said something very nice, which was they go, you know,

a lot of people say the dirty hair has lice. Lice actually likes clean hair. And I was like, based on that, I thought I was in the clear. That's what I thought that your hair was going to be so awash in, like, I don't know, old gel that lice wouldn't be able to sustain. Yeah, that the lice would be like, no thank you. Like this one-star hotel. Yeah, so we had to do the light.

But it's a process in that it's like an hour of person to like get the lice out. And they like slather you up and drag those combs through your hair, right? I looked real, I had a real Gordon Gecko vibe this morning when I walked into the building. People were like, hey, new hairstyle or lice? And I was like, lice. Is it incumbent upon you if you're a family with lice to then sort of tell the world? Is it like, we've got COVID? Is it?

Oh, interesting. And now I'm wondering if it's bad that it's on the podcast. I am pretty sure that when you have the people come and like de lice you. The lice moms. You're in the clear. Because like they basically, like they don't leave until they're confident that you, you ain't got no lice. Right. Well, that's fun

Yeah Good way to come back to the city After our vacation We had a great vacation And a lot of beach football with the boys Oh, that's fun They can't catch if they're moving So it's a lot of

Get to a spot, a lot of button hooks I'm like let's just I'm like let's play catch I'm like it's a lot of families Have full robust lives just playing catch and they're always like, no, we want to play a game, we want to keep score. Like their whole life is like, who's winning, who's losing. Yeah. It's never just like, let's have a nice time together.

Do you, I bought, you weren't there the last time I went to your apartment, but I found a tech mobile board game. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. I played it with them, and it's so fun. And it's such a throwback, and it's so basic, but it's good. I haven't seen it yet because they have this. like new, I can't remember what's called, but they have this like refurbished game boy type thing

where they can only play like Mario Tetris, that kind of thing. Yeah. And they got a tech mobile for that, which I haven't seen yet, but I've heard they don't like it, which I'm surprised by, because they loved playing your tecmo board game, but I think there was something about the actual tecmo bowl that like they had fallen in love with the board game version more, which is obviously in the state of age, incredible. Yeah. What kind of football are you thrown around?

Little Nerf ball or smaller? A little like rubbery leather thing, but like smaller. Yeah. You know it's not an official football because it's like Aqua and there's a bunch of like sea life on it. Yeah. If it hits them, if it goes through their hands and hits them right on the head, is somebody crying or is it like soft? Stunned. I would say stunned and then assessing whether or not they should cry and then find.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you were, you had the whole, uh, the whole. the whole Ash posse with you. The Mishbuka, as it's known. Yeah, we have the whole Mishbuka. Lovely.

You know, you know, they're a good group. Yeah. Were Tom and Joanne, the grandparents on that side, were they off doing their own thing? No, they were with us most of the time. Okay. They're a good hang. Yeah, I know they are, but they also like doing their own things.

They do like doing their own thing, but, you know, they didn't have a social life. Like, a lot of times we are with them and their friends are around. And so they didn't have any of that here. Gotcha. You will enjoy that at one point, and I kept my cool on this trip, I think I did a really good job.

Right at the end, I was very mad at Axel, both Alexi and I said, don't bring your wallet. He has this old wallet, and he has all his money in it, which is like $41. And he has like a decommissioned ID of mine. Like, just like it's like, but he means a lot. to him and we're like, don't bring it. Like, you're just going to lose it. Yeah, you wanted to bring it on the trip.

Just on the trip in general. We're like, don't bring your wallet. He's like, I need it. So he brings his wallet. Last day, he's like, I don't know where my wallet is. And we got like an hour before we leave. And I'm, to my credit, I literally spend an hour looking for this wallet. And there's one, at one point, like, everybody's like, have we checked the loft?

There's like this like sort of loft room. And I'm like, actually even in the loft. He's like, I went in the loft. And so I was like, I'll go check the loft. So I go and check the loft. I don't see the wallet. And I'm just like, you know, I'm like, Axel, we're doing and have your wallet.

And he's like so upset. And, you know, at the same time, I'm like, which doesn't matter to a kid. But I'm like, who told you not to bring it. He's not like, ah, you're right. So it's a teachable moment. Is it a teachable moment, Papa? So then Ash goes up in the loft on his own and finds the wallet. So it was somewhere else.

I had missed it. Yeah. in the loft and Ash comes down. I'm so happy. And then you can imagine this from my in-laws. Yeah. They're like, didn't we say to look there? I said to check the loft.

And I'm like, didn't I thought I said to look there. And then I think I said something along the lines of like, oh, look at us go, turning a positive into a negative. Have you considered the possibility? that Ash had stolen this wallet and then was like, oh, I'll go look for it. Oh, here it is. Oh, oh, my God.

And he was like, this is, I'm holding on to this piece of hot property. And I need to find a way to write this ship and I'll go look at the place that everyone's saying to go look and I've had it the entire time. I mean, he, because he did me, so dirty. Well.

Because not only, because he came down and he was like, not only was he like, because I was like, oh my God, you found it. And instead of being like,

yeah, it was under the, he was like, yeah, it was right there. How did you miss it? Like, immediately. And I'm like, yes, you just believe

and like, give your brother the wallet. It was bad. And it was right at the end. But I can't, I was very, I felt very good. I was in the water a lot.

Um, playing with the kids. Addy had this little inflatable flamingo, like, uh, you know, a little,

ring that she'd be in the middle of. Yeah. And she all she wanted to do was go as deep as we could in the ocean and then she would tell me to go and check how deep it was and I had to go underwater. We play a game where I pretend to be Count Olaf

from the Lemony Snicket books and it is an exhausting game that I don't want to play anymore. Because I have to do a voice and it's some way the voice gets frustrating to do. And she's very bossy when we play count Olaf.

She'll be like, count Olaf, you are count Olaf, but you are nice and you are hungry, and the only one who has food is me. And it's just, she's the best, though. She's also watching her swim. We also had a pool, and she likes to dive for rings, and she's just like a very strong swimmer and, like, being underwater and watching her,

like, go, like, kick her little legs and get down. Yeah. I like diving for rings, too. Diamond for rings is really good. Yeah. If I'm at a pool and they have them, I'll just throw them into myself and go get. Did I tell you the story by me and Axel negotiating what time he could wake me up yet? Mom and dad told me.

Try to. Yeah. Oh, man. Talk about something I shouldn't do. No, but like, it's a good story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Relate the story for our listeners. The story is I was having to sleep in the bunk bed.

I slept in Ash's upper bunk. because Ash was sick and sleeping with Lexi. And so I said, Axel, remember, don't wake me up until 7. He goes, I'm going to wake you up at 6. And I'm like, 6.40, and he goes, 620. And I'm like 6.30, and he's 620. And I go 625. He goes, 620.

And then I go, 621. He goes, all right, fine. But I might be a minute early. It's like, they're the best. And what time did he get you up? Oh, you know what? 630. And he said, you look tired.

No, 625, he said, you look tired, so I gave you five more minutes. Do you think for that five minutes he was just standing next to you looking at you? I think he like, I was top bunk, so, yeah, right. I think he might have been. Because I feel like I heard like some creaking on the, I think he creaked up, the stairs, creaked down, and then, like, thought, you know, he did the best he could. Yeah, yeah. He wakes up. He's ready to go. We had our niece with us, and there was, we put all four of them in one room.

and kind of a disaster. Oh, yeah? But it was fine. At night when the three of them all went to bed together. Yeah. Also, no screens, but we have these, you know, these like story boxes that are sort of all the rage right now. Yeah.

Four kids with headphones on going to bed is a very funny look. It does. It looks like first class in an airplane. Like they're just like four lie flat seats. They can't just agree to listen to one story. together? No. No.

Yeah. Yeah. And then eventually we just, we moved a mattress into our room and Addy slept with us. There you go. Very good. A super fun, super fun trip. I, oh, the other thing is we were driving, you know what a moke is? You know, those little cars?

No. They're very cool. You like a moke. Yeah. And I was, you know, I was very excited to drive one. and went to this restaurant and valeted it. And then it was right there. It was right by the valet stand.

And so, you know, I paid the guy. And I'm like, it's that one right there. He's like, do you want me to pull it out for you? I'm like, no, man, I'm good. And then I fully backed it into a motorcycle. And the guy who had just, I'd just been like, I got it. It literally did this. He was like, ah.

I am looking at it. It is cool. It's very cool. Yeah. Oh, fun. But I had to. I do want everybody to know. It was not like, the motorcycle was not, you couldn't tell anything, but I didn't give the guy my number.

Yeah. Tell him what happened if you want and nobody called me. No. There you go. I mean, sorry, I gave him a number. Give him Axel's number. I gave him Axel's number. We have a returning guest.

First time we've had just a straight up someone's been a guest, and they came back and they're doing a full episode as a guest again. It's Jason Schwartzman, everybody. He's the best. He kind of requested it. He was like, give me back out there. Yeah. And he kind of requested again. Yeah, I think this isn't the last. It's the last we've heard of. He's got a new show called Kevin, which he'll tell you, he loves it. He just loves it. He plays a cat. We love him. Yeah. And do enjoy. And it's great to see you, Pashi. Yeah, it's been a minute.

Yeah. And, yeah, here's Jeff Tweedy. Family Chips with the mice brothers. I see. There he is. I see. Returning champion. You know, this is a first-timer.

Yeah. First time we've had a return guest. Well, Ollifan's been on twice, but he's part of a holiday. Yeah. Yeah, he comes uninvited. He just clinks on a Zoom link that seems to see if he's going to work. He kind of has, yeah, he has one of those. His Zoom is that premium Zoom where you can just join any Zoom you want.

He gets an alert when there's a podcast. I feel like Jason's already frozen. No, there he is. Thank God. I know, am I, is it my problem? Yeah. No, it is your problem because you've moved out of a center of our industry. You used to be where the industry was.

was where the internet was good, and now you've decamped. Are you public about the fact that you've left Los Angeles? Should I be using a personal hotspot? I have a landline hotspot. Wait, I do notice it, but is it better now? Yeah, yeah, yes. Okay, yeah. Yeah, well, we're working on it.

Yeah, I haven't told, I mean, I haven't told, I mean, some of my family probably doesn't know that I'm here. Okay. But I love it. That's great. Have you moved out of the state? I don't need you to say exactly where you've landed here. It's so mysterious. I'm, sorry, hold on.

Bonjour. Oh. Oh, mon dieu. You're in Montreal. I'm in Montreal of all places. No, we moved to North Carolina. Oh, look at that. I, uh, what was the impetus behind it? Do you have, is, do you have a connection to it?

Well, it's a, it's a, it's not a funny story or a good, but I'll tell you because, um, you just asked. Um, there's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a weird story and I don't know how the right way to tell it. But, uh, first of all, here's how I found out about us moving. I, uh, that's, I found out about it. My last year, um, I was checking in with my family who was, um, they were, um, um, um, they were, were on spring break and I was working. Yeah. And my eldest daughter's best friend since kindergarten, they are like sisters. It's like another, we're very lucky to have that.

I don't, you know, very, like, she's like another daughter to us in a way. And so our two families were on a trip together, which, yes, I wasn't on. And we were just catching up my wife and I, and then she said, oh. I have to go, but we're thinking about moving to North Carolina. We can talk about it more, but soon. The girl, if we do it, we're going to have to do it before 9th grade. So we have to move this summer. But I have to go.

And I said, okay. Is this in line with the way your wife often is? Were you taken aback by this? Or were you like, oh, that's her? That's her. Great question. It's not in line for her to be, that's a pretty big, like. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, if she's doing this kind of stuff all the time, that would be. Yeah, no, that's a, I mean, no, I mean, but it's not in line for me to hear like, hey, we're going to have pizza tonight. You know, if you're okay with it. Yes, no problem. But, yeah, but no, yeah, we're not, we're moving this fall is not something that. But anyway, but I get, you know, and they had my wife and the wife of their family had been talking about it. And yeah, I think it was just like wanting a different way of life.

And our kids really kind of were the ones that initiated it, to be honest. But by, but the story for me that is, so we have no roots down here or anything. But in 1994 or five, I forget when the first Benfold's five record came out. That seems about right, by the way. I remember I got it. And I was looking through the book, the booklet. And I remember there being a picture inside of it, of them playing live. And it said the name of the venue in North Carolina.

I don't know if the, you know, and I said to myself, okay. if we ever get to tour and and and and and play this is going to be like a big place for me I got to go there and sure enough uh seven you know two thousand two or one or two we we get to we get to this uh venue um and it's I'm so happy to be there we're loading in and everything and I'm just like my real dream come true and um uh anyway I was going to call a taxi to go to a market to get food for our next leg of our journey. And this gentleman who was helping us there was like, oh, no, there's a, you'd have to call it, he was just very sweet.

He's like, there's down there, to the left, to the right, it's this wonderful co-op and there, and tell him, I said, and he was just so helpful and so sweet and kind. And, you know, when you're in a place for just a short amount of time, that a person like that can come to represent the place to you, you know, though we went back many times, it was like Chapel Hill, they're nice. You know, like that really was the impression. It was so sweet.

And sure enough, so when we came to, oh, anyway, I said the name. Well, whatever. Sure. Yeah, you blew up your own spot. Fuck. Yeah, it's okay. Well, anyway. I can tell from the window is Chapel Hill, by the way.

Get ready, Chapel Hill. Here come the crowds. Here come the. I know it's not it's really well I didn't want to say because it really is because of Bill Belichick moved here we want to just kind of check it out follow him you follow a belletjack we're into it yeah we just following we kind of picked him as I'm sorry is your is your daughter's friend his girlfriend no no no no no but they have but that is funny they have the same name I'm not kidding but anyway but here's the the story so we come back here just you know to my to check it out to see if our kids like it. We go to the club. I take my son to the club that I played because I have a friend that lives here, a musician, and I said, hey, we're in town and I'd love to see you. And he said, well, I'm going over there right now if you want, I'm going to do like a music video type thing.

And I can show you guys around. I said, great. So my son and I go over there. We walk over and my friend's standing outside and he says, oh, Derek, this is Jason. Jason. This is Derek. Derek runs the place. I say, hello, it's nice to meet you. He goes, I loaded in your drums for you 24 years ago. And I said, I said, no, you say that, you know, to all the drummers. And he said, no, you had a black, sparkled Ludwig drum set with little drawings. He knew, he remembered, like, very, knew it.

And as he's talking, I realized this is the person that told me where to go to this, to this co-op. And it's, I didn't ever tell him. I still haven't told him, but it just was so powerful because I thought, gosh, in many ways, this gentleman's kindness 24 years ago was really the reason why when my wife said, are you open to moving to this place? I was like, absolutely. Because of that guy. And it's just weird. I know it's so just bizarre to me. Like, I couldn't believe it.

And it was very cool. Well, you seem very happy about the move. So I congratulate. It's not great. I don't love it. It's like, it's, but we're, you know, I'm hardly here. I'm mostly in L.A. No, no.

I just went down. I did stand up in Durham maybe two months ago. You're kidding. I know. I'm bummed. And I feel like maybe somebody told me when I was after the show, somebody mentioned that you'd move down there and I was equally bummed. But I just want to say about the area you're talking about.

Yeah. Not only one of the best shows I've done in that, in regards to how responsive the audience was. Yep. But afterwards, we walked to, like, a local bar. And just so we ended up kind of walking down the street with people who'd been at the show. Yeah. And it was just the most lovely people to be around.

It is so nice. Where, do you remember were you? D-Pack. Okay. I love that. I took my son, we went and took my son, we went and saw Neil deGrasse Tyson there. And it was really fun. So it was pretty, it would have been redundant if you saw me.

It's pretty, it's pretty similar. Yeah, I don't like everyone in the same place, except 24 years later. It's me, it's me with the no science stuff. No science knowledge talking about. I wonder where you went, though. Oh, yeah, no science. I do a lot of science. We went to a cool little bar, although we went, do you know Emily Spivey?

Yeah, of course. So I think that might have been who said that you were down there. Does she? She lives down there. And she, yeah, she came to the show, and we went to a bar. And it was a really cool bar. And then maybe at like 10 o'clock, the bar was like transitioning into more of a nightclub. And they turned the music up.

And it was, we felt a hundred years old. Because we were having so much fun. And then we immediately were like, well, I can't hear anything. Yeah. Yeah. I know. But there are so many wonderful. I wonder where you went because there's so many wonderful.

I haven't really explored. But it's wonderful down there. I love it. So did the move have anything to do with you being intimidated by Nick Offerman? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At the end of the last episode you talked about.

Well, it's, I, uh... You didn't say his name, but we... It was pretty easy to figure out. I'll tell you. I think, yeah, I guess I ran away or, yeah, I left. Right, rather than confront the situation. Yeah. And it's great because here, I don't...

I speak with an English accent. And I just kind of, I've reinvented myself. And it's so cool because you don't get to do that in life. You know, it's like... It's so funny for an actor to think they can move and reinvent themselves. Hello. Hello. Oh, yes.

I work for a cream cheese company. We're in town researching your local bagels, which... You do have dairy here. Oh, yes. And then you're very clearly going to take them over for nefarious means, yes, do show me your dairies. And so these bagels then sold at a price is such as this. Really? They're like, hey, Jason Schwartzman's acting like a dumb British person.

He's shocked by the cost of everything. What's this many pounds for a bagel? Wow. Anyway, sorry. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from article. Hey, Abaji. Hey, Sufi.

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So, yeah, so this is... But then at the end of the episode, you said, I had so many stories that I wanted to tell. So I kind of, like, feel free to just tell any of those stories. You know, I forgot so many of what they were, because they were so coming out of things we were talking about. But I know that, well, one really big one was that we talked about... Towards the end, we actually brought up these two big trips that I did take

where I went to a playwriting festival. Remember we talked about this? And did I go into it at great detail, though? Some detail. There was one in Italy where you would go to the talkbacks. Yeah, I'm not talking about that story. And then the other one that your mom got invited to and then never went to a show, but you went to all the shows.

Okay, so I've done those. I've done those. Those were big ones that I was excited to talk about more. but why don't we just find new things to talk about? And where did we leave off? Can you refresh me? Those were the last. I did want to ask you, you didn't go into much depth about puppetry or rocketry camp.

Yeah, I can tell you about that. Yeah. In depth. I mean, but what is depth? What is depths? I mean, by the way, for a kid who at one point was going to rocketry camp and now bringing his own son to see Neil deGrasse Tyson. What a life is a flat circle or whatever they say.

Well, let's talk about this. No, no, but here, I think that's just, I know what you're saying, but we were going to Neil DeGrasse Tyson to, like, we were just tailgating. We didn't actually see him. Oh, I see. Yeah, hanging out outside. Hanging out outside.

Well, let's just say we hang out with the anti-science crowd. Yeah, right. Caused a little trouble at Neil deGrasse Tyson. Hey, were you idiots going? going through there, Deepak? Huh? Okay, but we don't, you know, so it's funny you say, my kids go to sleepaway camp and they love it.

And they go for two weeks, and my son went for the first time when he was six. God. Yeah, I mean, like, at a remarkably young age, truly to be away for two weeks in a totally different. place and he loved it. And it's funny because my wife, she loved camp. She went, I think, for like, she was one of those people who'd go for a month. And the idea of that was, you know, a hard thing for me to want to do as a kid. And I said to my wife, why did you, like, were you, like when you was, like, race to, like, a buoy, did, you know, everyone line up on the dock?

And that's not what I'm good at. And I don't like that kind of instant competition. I think that's what led me to rocket tree and puppetry camp was because it was a bit more like, I mean, though some rockets would go higher than others, and it would be easy to tell there were a clear, you know, a better rocket, it was a bit more supportive. And I think that, you know, I could come home. and the puppetry camp I loved so much because I still have the puppet

my mom still has it. It was a giant worm. It's one of the, yeah, I have a photo of myself with it. And I just, I think that I loved, that's the environment that I felt kind of better in. I think even at a young age was like, is that weird to say that it's a, it's kind of, I guess it's non-competitive in a way compared to other stuff.

Like it was, I liked the idea of like, Oh, what do you got over there? Oh, those are good buttons. Those are good. That's really good. Did you keep going with that? Is that a spider? You know, I think that, like, I was really, I liked that environment and seeing what everyone,

I liked making things. And I think that that's always been like a, you know, even now, like, you know, my wife's really good at while running our lives and our families. But also, you know, and part of that is trips and coming up. And it's so funny how unnatural it is to me to think ahead to plan a trip. It's not, no. And I don't know, I don't know if it's from never doing it. But she said to me recently, like, well, what is your idea of fun or relaxing?

And it was such a weird question because I have so much fun. And I'm like, I love, I love everything and I'm so relaxed, I think. But it was, it did stump me. Yeah. And I, and I don't know how to answer such a question. And it is very funny for someone you've been married to for a very long time and three children, correct? Yeah, to ask me, what's my idea? Just like late in it be like, what chills you out?

What are you into? When's your birthday? No, we. No, it's, well, no, it was just, I think she was a little frustrated and, I think, genuinely confused. Right. I mean, do you find the same things fun that you found fun when you were a kid? Is there a through line? Nothing's changed for me as far as what I find fun.

Yeah. And what I find, but I actually think more things are fun to me as I got older as opposed to less. Well, because my kids are wired a little bit differently than I was. my wife is very wired differently. And so it's a lot of being outdoors. It's a lot of beach and boat and things that I am not covetous of. And yet I have found that because that's where my children are, if I kind of open my heart to it, it's a great way to spend time. But like, even when Joshua and I go, you know, our parents would bring us to Florida and I would just want to like sit in a hotel room and read book. Like that's all I never wanted to do. And you can't

do that as a dad. What do you do? No. And what do you do at the beach? Now I'm feel like, you know, they are... I'm just like curious. They're a little bit more of... They can... You know, the boys are about to be 10 and 8, and so they can entertain themselves a little bit. But, like, if they bring a football to a beach,

like, they want me to throw it the whole time. Yeah. That's not bad. Like, it's more fun. I like that more than five years ago where it was, like, dig us a hole. Yes. A lot of, like, dig us a hole.

And that was just... I just felt like... I don't know, there's that scene of Monty Python and Holy Grail where they're just like... There's some people, like, just putting mud in, like, buckets. Like, that's like what serfs did. And like that's, that's kind of like what I felt I was doing is just like, just putting mud in a bucket because we might need it later. Right. No, I hear you. I hear you. The beach that, you know, Seth and his kids will go to,

I've been there. And there are these little sand crabs and you dig in the sand. And inevitably, there's like two or three sand crabs with every scoop of sand. Which kinds? A little tiny, little white, almost translucent. Yes, that disappear sort of very quickly. They run away. Okay, yeah. And Seth's middle son, Axel, would always point them out like it was the first time, but it was every single scoop. He'd be like, sand crab.

I got it, bro. I got it. Oh, sand crab. And it was like you couldn't, you could not pick up sand without getting a sand crab. Does he love when the sand, when you have a bucket of sand and a sand goes in the bucket? He's like, definitely one in here. Yeah.

And then, right, they're like, there's so many in this bucket. And you're like, it's all, they're just being, a hundred sand crabs is basically the same as no sand crabs to me. Yeah. No, it's funny you say that because that is, I do love that. Like, I loved, you give me some buckets and a shovel. I will dig and, I, last summer, last summer, we were, we went to Lake Tahoe. And I was sitting on this beach, this little beach by the leg, it was so beautiful. and cooked up this idea of my son

that we could try to make some type of like a pipeline connecting one thing of water to another to have it filter in around a sandcastle. So we went to the hardware store and we bought, went to the plumbing section, I bought various pipes and things. And I had no idea. I mean, it's the first time I've ever been to that part of the hard.

And it was just weird. I mean, the guy, I didn't want to tell him what I was there to buy. I mean, why it was by. He's like, what's your project? You're like, all right. You know, it's a three-bedroom. Lagoon adjacent. You're like, winked at your son, like, don't give up the game.

Yeah, but we bought this. I bought this really cool, fun pipe, and we went out there, and we must have dug all day and buried it and tried to, and it was just like, and other kids were coming over. What are you doing? you know, like, we're building a tunnel from the, you know, it was like, and it just became kind of like, get in if you want to get. And everyone was helping. And it didn't work at all. But it was, that's, that was, that's an idea of like a perfect that I love. Like, kind of getting lost on a weird mission like that, I love.

Were, did any other parents come by and look at it and be like, it was not going to work? No, I felt one, there was one guy looking at me from a. since that's what I felt he was thinking, but that could be total projection. But I did feel that he was clearly going like, idiot. If he just had it higher than the other side of it, the war would go straight down. I mean, I don't know much, but I think that I think that was obviously. That I know. That I know.

No, no, that I know, obviously. I didn't. I'm just, you know, but I think he was. I taught you that at Rockets. How, yeah, your oldest is, is your oldest is a teenager, right? 15. Wow. So what is, what are family vacations?

like now with a 15-year-old. Great. Well, they're, um, there, she loves, she really loves a pool. Mm-hmm.

They love, you know, they like, they like, it's like, I mean, it kind of a classic, she likes a pool

and a book. And, uh, you know, they love that. They, they, they,

uh, so there's a lot of like, it's a pool-focused type thing I find. Um, but, uh, but still part of the family unit. She hasn't, like, rejected, like, the idea of being...

Hell not. Okay. Oh, my God, no. We have the... I mean, I'm so lucky to say that my kids are... I just... I love them so much, and, um... No, they're pretty down with...

I mean, that said, I do have a thing where other people talk about what they're about to do at a trip, and it makes me feel like I'm not a good... There's a lot of things I didn't learn to do that I, therefore, can't really impart Yeah. And I, you know, and, and, like, we, like, yeah, puppets we could do it all day here.

But I feel the same way where I would, I would like to go camping with my kids and I'm a little worried about doing it. Yeah. Unless we're with some people who've done some camping. Yeah. But I think one of the great things, I don't know if you felt this way, but, like, my dad was a very, like, knew what to do type of person. At least that was the impression I got. I'm sure that he maybe didn't, who knows. But like a real, like that guy is a, to me, like this superhero, just badass, you know.

And new things, new answers to things. And I just, I think that for whatever reason, I'm obviously different than him. And I've really just embraced that. And I think that it's been, I just kind of go with it. So like the camping thing, I would probably be like, let's figure it out together. Like I try to make it. But that's what I'm saying. I kind of feel like my son's like, I don't want to learn it with you.

I want you to go out on a reconnaissance mission, do your homework, figure out the thing, and then show me how to camp when you learn how to do it. I don't want to be on YouTube in the mountains watching how to assemble a tent with the poles. want you to do it. Yeah, it turns out kids, kids are drawn to competence. It does turn out. Well, I'm finding that, well, I'm finding that to be true. And, you know, and the weird thing is that, well, I don't know if this is a good thing to say, but you know, so much of the things that I do for a living, they don't get to see me do. Right. Which I'm not competent in that either, but if it's the one place in my life where I sort of feel competent a bit, and I, but they don't get to see that. So for all they know,

as I'm talking to you now, it sounds like a pretty terrible childhood for them. I mean, they really don't have a father. But I will say we went to a music store the other day in town because my son's taking drum lessons now. And they were really, I felt so into, I just knew, you know, I was in my element there. And I think they were really like, we walked out my daughter and said, wow, you really knew your way around there. They really liked you.

I was like, yeah, that's great. Yeah, I felt like, see? I mean, it's embarrassing, but like, when my kids come to my show, I'm so happy. They can see a place where I know what I'm doing, where I think it's just like I'm over there like, okay. Right, all right. Thank God.

Thank God there's some place where he's not terrified. Do you really feel that way? I really do. I'm like, oh, see, look, daddy knows where to go, knows where to stand. See, those people clapping for daddy. Yeah, they know that he's here. It is just nice when they're like, oh, he doesn't just leave to go act like he does here.

Right, exactly, exactly. And it's also, too, like, for me, you know, if I'm going to go to work or something, and so much of it is just kind of like thinking, you're just thinking about stuff all day long. Like it's just on your mind all the time, you can't stop thinking about stuff. But that doesn't look like your work,

I mean, from a distance, that looks like you could be staring at the floor. floor or something. And so it's weird, you know, like you're thinking about stuff so much, but, you know, your kids just see you sitting there sometimes. And you're just like, I'm sorry, I am kind of working. I mean, I'm not technically working, but, you know, this is part of what I do. But I was at work recently and I was like, bye guys, I got to go to work. And then 20 minutes later, it was on the set. Someone was showing me like, want to see the cool chimney gag, how we can get the guy to fall down straight to the chimney.

I was like, this is the best. Like, I just wish, like, it doesn't feel like a, you know, I wish they could see me go to work. And first, this is what I do for work. And I just, I'm the happiest person in the world. I love working. I could just, I could, I'm the best version of my cell phone. I love it.

I mean, I think, you know, we're lucky. And I was talking, I just had Kurt Russell on the show and he was talking about how many of his grandkids were like, you know, creative people. Yeah. And both how you are excited that they're doing something they love, but also a little worried because you know what the business is like. And I was just like, the problem is like we love it and why wouldn't they want to do a thing that it looks fun?

It is fun. Yeah, yeah. And I, it, yeah. I mean, Kurt Russell, I met him just one time, by the way, and I'll never forget how his hands felt. Yeah. It was like, it was incredible. It was like, it was like literally shaking hands with like a beautiful baseball mitt. or something like that. It was enveloping

and it was enveloping and like had a feeling like established 1872. Like you know what I mean? Like it was just like it was like for real. Like it was like

right. And I should remember you shook my hand. I was like I have never had this experience. I've never had this experience shaking someone's hand like this. This is a different type of hand.

And I couldn't believe the only thing that was distracting besides that was just his eyes so blue and beautiful and I just can't, you know, you can't believe it but, uh, man. Yeah. Yeah. He's the real deal.

But, uh, what was I going to say? Yeah, I mean, I think that yeah, we do love what we do and it's fun too because, you know, I love what I do that and just because I like, I like, I'm really moved by the idea of like a bunch of

a group of people trying to make one thing is quite it's very moving to me so whether it's a band or what you know I'm just like I like I'm very I'm very moved by that and I wish they could see that

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in the last episode. Have you ever been to Poland? Never. I'm dying to go. Okay. I'm dying to go. I'm dying to go. Alexi does.

My wife does too, and I really want to go. You haven't been? No, we've never been. She's never been. Really? Yeah. Where's her family from, do you know? Crackow, I want to say.

Okay. But I might be making that up. But, you know, it's that weird thing where like, you know, obviously, you know, Jewish people from Poland often didn't leave for the best reason. And so I think it's a weird. The visit back is like an interesting thing. Right, right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And my grandparents, though, they left earlier anyhow.

I think they hit. But, but yeah, I grew up. I didn't even realize they had accents until I remember being like 25 and then realizing they had accents one day because that was just how they talked. But they spoke, they taught themselves how to play English by playing Scrabble every night.

Huh? Which is pretty fun. Yeah. It was neat. That's great. And, you know, I still remember their breath and everything. Any,

you mentioned Bernal. Are you so bored right now? Are you so bored? No. No. I was just trying to get that. I was just trying to imagine what their breath was like. Oh, it was good.

I'm letting you guys down. I'm sorry. I fucked up. I fucked up. I just thought I fucked up because I was like, oh, they got, they know, they want, I forgot it was me who was saying I had more talk. I was just like, oh, you just wanted to talk. Yeah, I was like, they got stuff for me. I was like, they got stuff for me.

I've got more to ask you. Like, because we're about to maybe embark on our first family Disney trip. Was that something the Schwartzman that's. Yes. And? Yes. Very much. As a kid a few times, as parents, a lot.

Yes. Where are you going to go? Not no. I mean, I would like, I think it's, you know, it's Florida and it's, you know, because there's also universal down there. And so maybe, you know. You're going to do that. I think we might do it. Yeah. Okay. So that's a little, so I grew up in L.A., I know Disneyland. I know. Yeah. I only went to the Florida one last two summers ago. I don't know. It's totally different. It's so big. Yeah. I mean, it's humong. It's huge. It's huge. It's humongous.

Yeah. Another. That's another. And then we went to the. the water slide park that's a sat connected to universal and yeah that was another one like water slide park like what am i doing at a water slide park well what did you do i mean would you go on the most daring of rides guess which one i went on the lazy river oh yeah that seems like your speed no i loved it i loved it because there's a part where it's like kind of rapidy like whoa you know i like and then you're like oh thank god now we just got to get through this one part Wait, did you ever have you not to, I'm going to step away from a second. Have you ever been on an actual whitewater raft?

No, I've never been white water rafting. I've always wanted to do that. We did it once. We did it once when we were young. Yeah. Really? And they were, it was one of those, it was the most of those photos where you do an experience where there's like one part of the whitewater rapids. And this was on a proper river, but it was a tour and they clearly knew the best place

take a picture. How many other were you? We were young. We were young, but our parents were there, our uncle, probably like, probably eight to 12 to a boat, something like that. Okay. And there was a really great picture of us going over the white waters where everybody's kind of... Who took the picture?

Someone from the side? I think someone who worked for the, like, we're going to stand up there and that's going to be the picture. That's awesome. We have you over a barrel. But I feel like our uncle Kurt was like stabbing, like, his oar through the air. Yeah. That's awesome. That's awesome. Did anyone fall out?

No. No. I feel like there was a place where you could jump out and just like float here for a little bit because it's a hot day. My wife's uncle who passed away when she was younger, but he was a guide on the Snake River. And that just sounds like the most beautiful. That's like a trip I would love to do is like go down, really go down a river quite far. It would be really fun. I think it'd be nice.

You know. But no, but I will say that. Could we just not put out this episode because I'm just losing. Everything, I'm just a loser. I mean, you're probably going to come back a third time. You might, are your favorite guest at this point? We were in Lake Tahoe. We were in Lake Tahoe last year.

And we were, we went down this, what's called the Truckee River, which is not a whitewater river. It's quite, you float the river, as they say, you know. Yeah. But there are slight part. Anyway, I did have a thing where we were on the boat. and I've never had anything like this happen to me. I didn't have my life vest on, and there was a bunch of kids, adults,

and we were heading towards a rock, and I went to sort of like push, as we were approaching the rock, I was sort of trying to put out the war to sort of deflect us off, and I just didn't realize how quickly we were heading towards the rock. And I hit, we hit,

We hit the rock, and I went flying off the back of the thing. And I went, like, I mean, really flying. And I didn't, it's not like a very fast river or anything. But where it was was a little crazy at that point. But so even that, I was getting tumbled around. And apparently my son was, my wife had to grab my son. He was going to jump in after me, which is so sweet. and but they threw me like

but I was getting tumbled around and there are you know there are so many rocks underneath and I was there was a moment where I was like this is incredible but also like I'm really like I am having a heart

I am they were yelling and you're gonna be okay and I was like I know it's not deep but I am really struggling to stay above the water is what I was thinking is like I get this is hard

you know and did you have a moment where you're like oh please don't drown in shallow water? Well, I wasn't thinking about the shallow. I was just thinking,

well, please don't let me drown in front of them. Yeah. Maybe let them get far enough ahead. Right. Go ahead. I didn't think, I did say go ahead.

I didn't think I was going to drown, but I did start to, it was colder that I expected, and I was like, I mean, it's so funny how quickly you are totally, a just panicking idiot.

You know what I mean? Well, yeah. I mean, if you go ragdoll in a river, there's rocks. It wasn't insane. I was like hitting stuff. I was like,

oh, and I got back in the boat, you're like, are you okay? And I was like, yeah, it was fine. It was fine.

Did it look fun? Did it look cool? Yeah, like, yeah. I mean, I was definitely, I was scared as hell.

Were you beat, were you bumped and bruised? Were you? Yes, very, very bruised. Yeah. Very bruised. But, hey, that's what happens on the Truckee River.

And that's just, you know, that's the risk you always take. You know that going in. You always know it going in and you know it going out. You just remember it during. And that's what happened. I mean, the greatest thing learned on that is that your son, excuse me, was going to jump in after you. Like, that's an incredible. What an incredible thing to know.

I know, but also heartbreaking because I feel like he shouldn't have to feel that. That's going back to the incompetent. I mean, he should feel like, look at my dad out there. Like, hell, look at that, he's a hell of a swimmer. He's got this. Don't worry. I'll get him five minutes, he'll be back in this thing. He used to go to a camp where they swam to a buoy.

Yeah, your daughter's like, that was mom. He made a worm puppet. He's like, I gotta get in there. Yeah, I gotta go. They were like, yeah, but it was, that was a scary moment. But I've always wanted to do the river rafting. I don't, yeah, I don't have a lot of family photos of anything, My wife has a lot of them.

It looks like such a great. You know, you see photos of people's lives on a wall, and it really, you know, it's easy to think that they had this, like, perfect life because you're just seeing the kind of highlights and stuff. It's very interesting. Why do you think you guys weren't a photos on the wall kind of family? Do you think you were right? Yeah. I don't think they're, I don't know. We were a family, though, that took a lot of home videos.

Right. Well, that makes sense. More than more, my dad. I mean, we have a lot of it. And it is, you know, so there was that, there was a sentimental, or there was a need to film and stuff like that. But yeah, like a lot of my friends don't have family. We have so many videos. And one thing I did that I was really happy about was I went to my mom's house and I found tons of them.

And she always has this fear that I keep stealing stuff, which is true. because I just had this fear that it will get lost in the house but I took every video I could find and I sent it to an archivist not an archivist but that's technically and I had all of it copied and digitized

from like every different medium and I started to do it myself and it was too sad I couldn't I couldn't I can't even watch I can't watch a video from yesterday of my children I will start crying I don't know why yeah our father always said that

he didn't want home movies because they would make him too sad. Yeah. And we don't really have them. You don't have any. I just for the first time, and I did it because Josh was getting married. But Josh, I had videos of my wedding, and Josh gave the greatest best man speech of all time. And because in preparation for doing it, by the way, I shouldn't watch it because it was like it was unachievable. But like watching it was not.

I was like, this is just making me so. it's my favorite thing watching it again I'm just like couldn't like process the emotions I was having it was too much whereas like my

wife's family will watch the amount they're like have you seen this video I'm like a hundred times you've shown me a hundred times

you've seen the video where I got a bike for Christmas I'm like yeah really to the point that I think I got a bike for Christmas wait wait

when are you watching those videos when you go back? No, it's just now that, like, they're all, you know, my wife's family did a great job of, like, digitizing everything. Okay. The amount they, like, email old videos. They're sending them to you? They're just sending them.

Oh, my goodness. Or they're just like, sit down. Have you ever seen this one? I'm like, yeah, man. And by the way, they're great. I just, at some point, you're like, I feel like I'm watching a, like a long documentary about unfamous people. Ken Burns does the ashes. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it's, it is. It's funny. That is one thing, though, that I will say I think about with iPhones now and people filming a lot of videos in their iPhones, they film such shorter things. Yeah. You know, the intention is like just get the thing, hopefully get the moment. Whereas a lot of those videos, you know, they will go on for... Oh, dude.

Four hours. It's like, it'll be just like, put that down. Put that down. All right, pick it up. There you go. Come at me now. Hey, what? We're out back!

It's just like, it's just like, it's just all rolling the whole time. So I think those are some of the best things in those videos, by the way, are those moments that are, you know, the, when they're just rolling and rolling and rolling. And unfortunately, I feel like with the, yeah, now we have less of that kind of stuff. But I guess you, we're going to run out of time with you, so I do want to say, because I'm very excited about your show, Kevin. Aubrey Plaza. This is a worst day of my life.

We are. We have another guest. Who is it? If you want to call Elizabeth Banks. Elizabeth Banks. Have you worked with Elizabeth Banks? Yes. Will you tell her and said hi?

I will. God. I feel like we have so much to talk about it. Well, I mean, at this point, we're going to have you on again. I got to work with, like, Barrenholz, for the first time, really. When? Where? Last year, we did this movie called Artificial.

Great. And I just, like, spent, and I know he's, I've known, you know, we know him. Simon Rich, that's a Simon Rich penned. Yes. Yeah. But what a fuck this guy. Oh my gosh. In real life, when you spend that long working with him, I can't, I can't believe it.

I can't fucking believe it. I don't believe it. He is the definition of Mench, right? Absolutely. When people are like, what does that word mean? You're like, Mench means like Berenholtz. That is, could not. This man, the kindness, the sweetness, and the.

The endless, he seems to be having so much fun. Yeah. And he makes you, he's laughing, he's enjoying, he's eating, he's, it's so, it's thrilling to be around. I'm like, we were working in Italy and I would walk with him. And I just felt like, honestly, it was like drafting behind like a race car. Yeah. I was like, you know, I was just watching him. Like, this is incredible.

This is life. Yeah, he has, I think, look, you've got to try this. It's the best thing you've ever had. Yes. And he's just, and it's, we always say, like, you know, he exists in hyperbole, but without being inauthentic. Like, he truly, when he says, this is the best ice cream you've ever had, if 10 minutes later, he's like, this is the best, it's not a contradiction.

Like, he's like, in this moment, there cannot be better ice cream than this ice cream. Absolutely, absolutely. And he's inclusive of every, he, he's like, hey, we're going out to dinner. I've invited every single person we met today. And we're all going to this place. I love him. God bless him. I wanted to just say that as I, he changed my life.

He made me really see life through a different lens working with him. But yeah. My show. Oh, the show. Yeah, Kevin. That's a fun. I love it. Well, I love it.

But yeah, it's on Amazon. It's on April 20th. but I did it with Aubrey Plaza and Joe Weingart, and we've been working this for a long time. I mean, this was the first thing. This might have been like early on in pandemic. They reached out. We started recording it like in there, I believe.

But it's so fun. I love it. I mean, they are, Aubrey is, you know, of course, very singular. And Joe, I don't know if, do you know Joe at all? I don't know, Joe. Oh, my gosh. So freaking funny. And Philip, it's deep Phil.

Philadelphia. You know, every time you go into the recording session, it's like, well, what new Mitchell and this, Philly gear will I see this time? It's just like really cool stuff. But, you know, I play it. Yeah, it's fun because I play a cat. These two guys get a divorce and I'm a cat that goes out of my own for the first time and I love it.

We love talking to you. We are going to book you again. What's Elizabeth Thanks going to talk about? Yeah. What's she got coming up? She's got... Oh, the miniature wife with Matthew McFadden and her on Peacock April 9th. She did that?

She ended up doing that. So Matthew ended up doing that? McFadden did that? I was wondering who actually took it, who was there actually got out. Today, as we're talking to you, the 40th anniversary of Rad is today. I cannot believe you just brought that up. Fuck yeah. And it's in theaters.

And I thought, my brother just sent me a whole, yeah, my brother is then runs that whole, you know, he puts it out and everything. And God bless my brother. It's, yeah, I thought there was a chance I was going to see you tonight at Universal. But maybe. He'll be there. It's in the back of my mind. You know, I saw these rad 40 T-shirts and I was like, I should get one of those. Yeah, my brother is like a whole different, I don't know who he is.

He's the fun. He's incredible. Well, yeah. If it's Matthew and Robert, one of those, then those two guys were hanging out and you had a lock on your door. You really did review the show. Right before we came on. I would never... Meanwhile, you showed up being like,

I went to theater camp. I know we didn't get to it last time. We didn't talk about it, but theater camp. Do you know I went to... No, I just had more details about stuff. But guys, I don't... Next time, bring the worm. You got to bring the worm...

Oh, I know what I'm going to tell you guys. I'll tell you next time. All right. Should we skip the speed around? Yeah, we're going to skip the speed round. Can I just say your show? Thank you for what you. Your show is the one...

It just brings me so much pleasure at the end of the end of the... the day. I count on it so deeply. Oh, thank you. Well, we hope we see you in person soon. You're the best. You're the best. And I love, pal. Love to everyone. All right. Love to you, buddy. Love to your family. Rock and roll. Bye now. He was not so cool in school. I mean, he went to camp for puppetry. Was not the guy to swim back first from the booie?

And his rockets didn't fly so high at his camp for rocketry. Oh, gee. Very supportive. What do you find fun? No competition. What is relaxing? Are you trying? There were two pools there to connect.

And maybe someone should have checked. One was up. And what? Weird mission. Pushed off of a rock and wasn't deep.