Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JASON SCHWARTZMAN Speaks In Italian Hand Gestures

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Jason Schwartzman joins Seth and Josh on the pod this week! He talks all about growing up in a Hollywood family, his mom pretending she didn’t know why people recognized her, his favorite camp memories, what he thought when he finally watched Rocky, family trips to Palm Springs and Napa Valley, visiting a playwright festival in Connecticut, how his son refers to him, and so much more! Jason’s new movie Queer is now streaming! Support our sponsors:NissanFamily Trips is brought to you by the All-New 2025 Nissan Armada. Take your adventures to new heights. Learn more at NissanUSA.com AirbnbVisit airbnb.com and book today TalkspaceGet $80 off of your first month with Talkspace when you go to Talkspace.com/TRIPS and enter promo code SPACE80. To match with a licensed therapist today, go to Talkspace.com/TRIPS today Delete MeTake control of your data and keep your private life private by signing up for DeleteMe. Now at a special discount for our listeners. Today get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to join deleteme.com/TRIPS and use promo code TRIPS at checkout.  Executive Producers: Rob Holysz & Jeph Porter Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen

This episode of Family Trips is brought to you by the all new 2025 Nissan Armada because going big never goes out of style. Learn more at NissanUSA.com. Here we go. Hey, Pashi. Hey, Sufi. How's it going? It's good. How are you? Doing really good.

Nice. You know, I feel like we have to give a shout out to one of our loyal listeners. Who's that? Dad. Yeah? Dad, you know, well, you know what? Maybe a shout out to dad and then we'll follow it right after with a shout out to mom

because dad got his foot done. He got cosmetic, he got elective cosmetic surgery on his foot. I would, I don't know that's how he would describe it. No, I think he went in, I guess he decided he's always wanted a dancer's foot. Oh yeah, pretty foot. He said he wants a pretty foot.

He said he wanted a pretty foot. So he went in, he got a surgery to make it look like, I guess he brought in, I guess he had like a photo of a ballerina's foot and he brought it in. And I guess it was pretty painful surgery, but they rebuilt his foot and he's been off his foot for six weeks.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's been maybe a little burdensome on Mom. Yeah, I would think it would have to be. Yeah. Seems to be a trooper. Yeah. I mean, I haven't heard complaints, I'll say that. Yeah. And she's one to complain. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think anybody, I'll say that. Yeah. And she's one to complain. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

I don't think anybody would say about mom, you never know when she's had it. Ha ha ha ha. And then here's a quick question, when I'm talking with the kids on FaceTime with dad and they ask him how his foot is, how quickly do you think he can turn his camera around and actually get his foot in the frame?

He could just turn the phone around. Yeah, I think he kind of tries everything. I think he maybe flips it, then he turns the phone around, so then you're just looking at him again. Yeah. I don't know where you're going on giving him a shout out here, but I hope it's to the same place. Oh, right.

Currently, this mostly has been critical? Yeah, unless it was just a shout out for wanting a pretty foot. Here's the thing. I'm just saying, we love you, Dad. I know it's been a very... I know I've been redirected by Poshy to be a little bit warmer about this.

We love you. We're very excited to see your new foot in beach season. Now the question is, do you get the other foot done? Because it's kind of crazy he went in and only got the one ballerina foot. Yeah. I mean. What is the actual foot surgery he got? I don't know.

Any time you asked, you weren't really told. But I know there was a fusing of some bones, and there was no cartilage, but now he's going to get himself a glass slipper. You know why it's hard to understand the surgery? Why's that? It's too fusing. Which, I mean, deep dive on Myers speak,

fusing is the word we say for confusing. So it really hits for me. So that's maybe, in the end maybe that's what this Shoutout intro has been, is the long walk to get to the place where the punch line was too fusing. Yeah, well, the Shoutout I would give him is that the last time I FaceTimed them, the camera was perfectly still. And he said, hey, have you noticed how still the camera is? And I said, yeah.

And he said, well, yeah, years ago, we did an episode of Late Night, and we had to be at home in New Hampshire, and they sent us these little tripods. And so I have the phone and a tripod now instead of holding it. And I know I privately complained, I think privately complained, or maybe it was on the podcast, but about- It's hard to know anymore. Sometimes we think we're private

and then you remember it's on the podcast. Yeah, but he's a terrible cameraman holding the phone. But he, without my prompting, I think was like, hey, I should be using this tripod. And it was wonderful. So you know what? Shame on me for here's a guy who's finally got the tripod set up and I'm like, hey, flip it around.

Show the kids your foot. Oh, yeah. I think that might be the problem. Although I will say, we were chatting and he was at the kitchen table and he did puzzles the entire time. He was like, he was still, he was engaged in the conversation,

but he was like, this, never stop, never stop doing the crossword or whatever the hell he's doing, I don't know. So he's got a free hand now cause he's not holding the phone anymore, but he's not using it to engage with you. So actually this was not about steady camera work, this is about getting his puzzle hands back.

Yeah. Old puzzle hands, old pretty foot puzzle hands. Maybe that was the surgery, is he got his foot replaced with a hand so that he could do more puzzles. He's got, he could be doing three puzzles at once. One with each hand and then his new foot hand. Yeah.

Yeah, I think we should loop back with him and say, hey, in the end, did you feel like that was a shout out? That was a shout out. Had a really good skiing day. I think, you know, hopefully we've established that you're the one who loves it and I don't care for it that much, but it is, skiing with a kid is really fun. Yeah. Oh no, I like, I like skiing with your kids. I'm going to ski with your kids in a couple of weeks, in about a month.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm very excited about that. And yeah, it's just been delightful. Really, truly delightful. Axel is really, like, loves to bomb down a hill. I wish he would do a little bit more of his turns. You know, I pick him up at the end of ski school and they're like, work on his turns. And then I, you know, we do like a bunch of runs together

and there's nary a turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll work on that with him there's nary a turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll work on that with him. I'll cut him off. Okay, yeah, cut him off. I'll just keep cutting him off. With that said, I cannot relax on a ski lift with my children.

Because you feel like they're gonna fall off? I have a irrational fear of that, yeah. I have a fear of that in general and this is, I mean, just if I can soap box for a quick minute. It's like considered uncool to put the safety bar down on a ski lift, which is so dumb. And I know that like, if you're on a snowboard, it's a little bit annoying if there's a foot rest thing

that you just have to like make room for that. But snowboarders who will always go off of like, it's a little bit annoying if there's a footrest thing that you just have to like make room for that. But snowboarders who will always go off of like, you know, into terrain parks and off of like picnic tables and rails and whatever, it's like, you won't put the bottom of your board on this thing that is designed to like give your knees a rest. And I ski alone all the time

and I will very often ask to put the bar down. And recently it was just me and a snowboarder on a lift. And I was like, hey, do you mind if I put this down? And he said, if you have to. And I was like, well, I don't have to, but I also don't want to feel like a jerk for doing this. And I get a little bit of fear of heights in certain circumstances. I have that too.

Yeah. The thing I'm up against is the kids have to pass before the ski season starts. They have to pass a test where they can ride up on their own and get the part down. Uh-huh. So they've already, the mountain has signed off on them alone on the lift.

Yeah. And now when I'm on the lift with them, I have like dad hands where I'm just kinda like, I just, I'm like hands on their shoulders, you know? Oh yeah. Pull pulling them back. And they then are so mad about it, and they kind of like wildly slap my hand away. And in general, their very spastic motions, I think,

are only increasing the chances that it's gonna, somebody's gonna go flying off the lift. Maybe you should have your hands replaced with feet, and maybe they'd be okay with feet. What do you think they did with Dad's old foot? I don't know, you should ask. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh my God, I'd love to get Dad's old foot.

Now, wouldn't you say Dad's toenails are... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Careful. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Is this giving him a tip of the cap? No, I don't think I can talk about Dad's toenails in a way that could ever be classified as a shout out. Even with the kindest judgment, I don't think I could give him a... No shout out to Dad's toenail.

Yeah, all right. You could strike a match on one. Oh yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Well, that was, I think, a nice image to leave everybody with. What's the opposite of an amuse-bouche? Yeah. So anyway, this though, God, I love this conversation. Yeah, I love this dude.

I've loved this dude for a long time. And yeah, I think you're gonna enjoy talking to him. I think you're gonna enjoy listening to Jeff Tweedy. And I don't think if you're lucky, you should ever look at my dad's foot. Well, look at the pretty one. Yeah, yeah, the new one. Yeah.

Family trips with the Myers Brothers. Family trips with the Myers Brothers. With the mindless brother Here we go Yes! Look at that, I'm so jealous of that beard. Don't be. I've had a big beard, but it's never approached that. Just everything about jet black, hair, eyebrows,

a beard, every part of it. I'm just, come on. I'm jealous of that fixture on the wall. What is that thing? Blue, yellow, red. Yeah, that's how he plugs his ethernet in there. Truly, what is that thing? That is when you do a podcast

in a sort of very important showbiz building, like 30 Rock. There's just, you never know what cables they're gonna plug in. Seth's in season two of Severance. Yeah, it does kind of look like Severance. It's got a nice Severancy vibe to it. May I ask also, as a fan of the show, what mics are those that you guys use with these dots that go around them like that?

They're Shures. Oh, are they the SM7B USB ones? What mics are those that you guys use with these dots that go around them like that? They're Shures. Oh, are they the SM7B USB ones? That's what they got to be right. 100%. I mean, but we're not using the USB things. We've got Cloudlifters. They're XLR. Oh, they're XLR. Yeah. They can be USB, I believe. That's how you were able to hold it at the Grand Canyon on a tripod.

You had a cloud lifter in your back pocket? We did. Okay. Yeah. You're writing all this down. This is the fastest we've gotten into the granular tech of the show. Writing it down, I am writing it.

I started to write down writing it down. I'm sorry. Clown. Yeah, you have the cloud lifter. This is fantastic. You grew up in Los Angeles. You are from a showbiz family, but true story, your parents did not try to live...

They tried to keep you sheltered from it. Yeah, I mean... How's that going? It's good. It's good. Well, I don't... I mean, sheltered. Yeah, I mean, I, such a great way to start.

Yeah, just like immediately get you back on your heels. Well, you started asking about- No, I'm not on my heels. I'm just thinking, I'm thinking, cause I really wanna, cause I really wanna, anytime you see like, this is me really thinking about how to do my best for you. Yeah.

You do it so much, that's why you grew the beard as a pad for how often you're thinking. Dad, this isn't, yeah, this is, I grew it just like I do this. Oh, it's very helpful. Well, my mom, I don't really know, and I've never totally maybe asked her,

but it is true that she had act as an actor. And by the time I was born, she was well known. But I do think that she, she has a, she doesn't like Holly quote unquote Hollywood, whatever that is. We had a nice house, we grew up in a very nice house and, and, and such, but she's not into anything fancy. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. anything fancy. And she doesn't like the idea of Hollywood and things. So we never went, I never went to a set really growing up. I think I went to two sets to visit once. I wasn't like a kid. And she didn't work as much in the 80s. I think she worked less and less. I don't know if that's by, like, if that was to

shelter us, as you say, but, or if it was just to, because, you know, she wanted to work, I don't know. But I do know, for instance, that she played Adrienne in Rocky. Yep. And in the 80s, and early 80s, especially when I was growing up, it was such a, you know, she was so recognizable. And we would go places and people would say, yo, Adrian. Sure. And she would say, I don't, that's not me. I don't know what you're talking about.

And then, thank you though. And then, and then she, and then I was like, huh, who's that? And they're like, they think I'm some person named Adrian. But then after that happens like 60 or 70 times in all different states, you start to wonder, why do they all keep thinking you're the same person? Right, you put it together. I began to put it together.

I began to put it together. And then I finally saw a Rocky movie, but only until when I was like, seven or eight. Wow. Pretty good. I mean, I got pretty, yeah. Yeah, still pretty early to be watching Rocky movies,

I feel like. There's, you know. Really? I just showed my eight-year-old son. I just showed it to him. Did you really? Probably, they're not so bad. When you say that now, I'm like, oh my God.

Yes, we just watched. Yeah, we just did it. Well now, so is, how old are your kids? 14, 11, sorry, 14, 10, almost 11 and eight. Okay, so I think the, if your youngest can watch it at eight because my oldest is eight and I don't know if he could handle Rocky. Well, what about it? Wouldn't he be able to handle and I don't know if he could handle Rocky. Well, what about it wouldn't he be able to handle?

I don't know. Now I'm thinking the violence, but all he ever does is wail on his brother. So maybe- Well, it's true. I mean, that's sort of, so as they go along, they increasingly get more boxing violent. Yeah.

Might I say the first one is really, it's really such a beautiful. It's fabulous. It really is such a beautiful movie and you know, he wrote it and Sylvester Stallone wrote it and it's so quiet and it's really a sad,

yeah, character is so sad, you know, this guy and this guy who's just sort of like looking, you know, this guy and, and, um, this guy who's just sort of like looking, you know, for a way, just looking for a way. And it's a, it's a wonderful film. And really the, the most violent things that there are sort of come at, is at the end, you know, and it's, um, and yeah. And then the same, and same kind of with the second one. I think the third one is like when a fight happens,

that's when he fights Hulk Hogan in the beginning of the movie, they open with a fight more. But you know what else they do in those movies that I noticed is each movie opens with the end of the last one. It is true. It's almost like previously on. Which you don't see, I feel like,

very often in feature films. Yeah, it's true. You know what never happens in any of those movies? No one blocks a punch. Ever. All day. Oh my god. Every single punch lands.

Yeah. And they land, and they can absorb everything. And they- It's crazy. It's unbelievable. And it's crazy. It's unbelievable. And it's crazy. I have a two-part question.

How, I imagine your kids obviously are processing that you are someone who is in films. What is their reaction when they see their grandmother in a movie, when they see her as Adrienne? Well, it's very, so my son doesn't really, he doesn't really, he doesn't really, I don't think he articky, he was just kind of like, he was really into the movie. Yeah.

And he really was sad when Apollo Creed died. Yeah. Spoiler alert. But he was, he looked like he was gonna cry. Yeah. My daughter, she was really beautiful. She's, so she's 14, she's watching it. And her, what she's seeing is so different than what I'm seeing. So we're watching these scenes and I'm looking at it and I'm kind of looking at her. And then she goes, gosh, her hair is so beautiful.

And I was like, yeah, it is, isn't it? Yeah, it's just so how it goes like that. Sorry, keep going. Like, and she's just really taken by my mom's beauty, which is really, which is so sweet. So sweet. I know, I love it. And also she's really moved by their love story.

Yeah. Because they really love each other, these two. Adrian and Rocky. I did not expect to be talking about it, Adrian, but I'm so happy that we are because I've, okay, because I've never talked about it before. And- You're the first person to point out who your mom was.

Yeah. Have you ever seen Rad? You got it. Next one. I'm ready. Okay. So let me, so, but I will, so yeah, she's really moved by, by their love. Like she's teary by their affection for one another. And I think that's really sweet. That's awesome. Yeah, I know, I know. There's all kinds of, it's great. I mean, yeah.

So I, but I have a few memories. I went, so by the time I did go to the, to the set of Rocky IV. Oh wow. I didn't, whenever, whenever there was the big fight, the Russian fight, I only, I didn't get to see any actual fighting, but I remember being by like a trailer or something and I heard a crowd roaring. And I remember meeting Dolph Lundgren, Lundgren.

I mean, who knows? Maybe we all say it wrong. I met D.L., I met Drago. In the hotel lobby, and I remember my mom said, this is my son, and he said, this is your boy. And he put his hand on my head, and I remember his head covered my entire hand. And I had never met a man or been touched by a man

that big before. And I remember like, I was like, I mean, I don't have the greatest childhood memory. So whatever sticks out really must be an impression. You have to add a giant hand to stick out. That's a big, I mean, every part of my head was being touched by it, and I remember being like, whoa, like I mean, I was really compressed

by this giant hand. I think the most, with no exaggeration, and I feel as, I say this as someone who I believe is patriotic. I think the most patriotic I've ever felt in my life is Rocky IV. Really? Like in the movie theater.

I remember when it was over, my friends and I were like jumping around in that little area between the front row and the screen. Yes. Like it was just jubilant. It was like Armistice Day is how happy we were. And that speech he makes at the end really is quite something where he's like,

I mean, I just watched it the other night, so let me paraphrase. But he says, if I could change and you could change, maybe we all can change. And it's pretty moving. It's great. It's great. It's great. It's great. I loved it. And... But there's a few things, you know, I have some questions about

as I'm looking into it now, like as I'm thinking about it now, it's like... Are they implying that he was taking steroids, Drago? Yeah. There's one shot where they inject him with this thing. Okay, that is, okay, so it is steroids, not just like some kind of like, yeah, okay. All right, just to clear that up. They were implying that he was,

and they were ignoring the fact that Sylvester Stallone definitely was. He was going natural. That's a natural human body. That's a natural human body. That's a natural human body. Yeah. Okay, but still the idea was even without it, look what you can do without it.

Yeah. Okay. Look what you can do in the woods. So this is all wood, this is a wooden body. Every one of these things in the gym that you can do, there's a real life version of it out there. And that's what you can get from it. Hey, we're gonna take a quick break

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Always monitor traffic in weather conditions. Support for Family Trips comes from Airbnb. Man oh man oh man Airbnb they've really taken care of us in this podcast we've had some of our best trips with mom and dad at Airbnb's recently absolutely I feel like I've had some of the best trips of my life in Airbnb's and you know I remember we got to the last Airbnb that we stayed at with mom and dad I walked in the door and you had on a giant dining room table you had already set up a brand new board game. Now again, we're a board game family,

you've done some research and it was one of those games with a million pieces and I feel like there would never be a place in a hotel room to do this sort of thing but it was just laid out, ready to go. It felt like a home away from home. Yeah, I mean if I had done that at a hotel, you'd probably like, I'd have to lay it out on a bed and then you'd probably come in and just jump on the bed mess it all up.

I mean exactly what I would do. Because it would be funny it would be a jerk move but it would also be funny I recognize that. It's nice when you're reuniting be it with friends that you used to hang out with or your family that you used to hang out with and warm spaces to go to an Airbnb and have that instant connection that you used to have in places that were not hotels. Also sometimes you're like, I don't know, is this place going to be okay? Well then you should just try a guest favorite and you know it's going to be okay because you know people aren't going to find a place that they were not impressed with and say that's my favorite.

So get yourself a goodie. Book your next awesome trip today at airbnb.com. Here we go. So where you have a younger brother, how many years younger is your brother? So I have, he's two years younger. Okay. And I have a younger brother, then, so my parents were married twice, so I have, before they met each other, so I have my little brother, Robert, and I have an older brother, Matthew, and then I have an older sister

and then an older brother again. Gotcha. So did one come with your mom and two with your dad? Exactly. Gotcha. Yes, that's exactly right. But my brother, John, he's amazing. And he, but he was just at that point enough older that he was 18,

so he was going to college and Stephanie, my sister, was 16. Really in the house, it was Matthew, myself, and Robert. Got you. How much older was Matthew than you? Five years. Okay. But you were a pretty older was Matthew than you? Five years. Okay. But you were a pretty good group of boys there? Definitely.

Gotcha. Got along well? Yeah. Got along well? Oh my God. Yeah, I think we did. It's not really fair, I feel like, to talk about your brothers if they're not here. Yeah.

I think that's true. That's probably why we do it. Well, I mean, it depends what you want to say about them. You've only said the nicest things so far, but yeah. I guess what you're holding back on is- That's why I'm that's true. That's probably why we do it. Well, I mean, it depends what you want to say about them. You've only said the nicest thing so far, but yeah. I guess what you're holding back on is- That's why I'm stopping right here. No, but I think that my brothers were, we get along great. They are really close.

Matthew and Robert are like- But they have a lot of age between them. They do, and I don't know, they're just very, they get up, they, and to this day, they are very much still the same way. They go on more trips together. They're closer, they know what the other one is doing. And it's not like we all love each other equally. I don't know what it is.

They just have a kind of, I don't know exactly what it is. But when I was little, I think I was definitely as a kid and still am a little bit more like happy to have like a lock on my door. Yeah. Uh-huh. Um, then maybe others. Um, and you know, my brothers, for instance, love the idea of like, sometimes I hear y'all talk about it's like, let's all rent a house together and we'll all be there. And it ends up being fun, but it's not like my dream idea. But you know, the truth is that even if it was my, even if it was not my brothers, I wouldn't like it. Right, of course. It's just the idea of let's all get together and rent a house. Yes.

What if it was a big house and there was like a casita? Like you could have the casita. It wouldn't matter because I would feel so bad about being in the Casita, to be honest. Right. And I would know that they were like, my brother specifically, I know they'd be like making fun of me for being in the Casita. Right. Like I know they'd be like, oh, there's Jason up there thing.

Because I remember being a kid and like they would be doing something and I'd go to my room and go, there goes Jason to his room to write a poem. I think if there, if we had had a third sibling, if there had been a third Myers, I think I very much, Josh, tell me if you think I'm wrong, I think I would have totally been the one who checked out. Right. Maybe.

Yeah, I think you're more likely to have. Yeah. You know, it's a space thing. Like, I don't know, like, I don't, it's weird. Like I, and I love my brother so much. But I was the kind of kid, like Robert, my little brother, is the sweetest person in the world. Like, we shared a bed for a really long time.

And then we got bunk beds. And it's the kind of thing where he came up on my bunk bed one time and was like, hey, can I talk to you? And I was like, get off my bunk, get off of here. And he's like, I just want to show you something. Get off! And I pushed him and he like went flying off the bunk bed, hit the ground. I mean, I was not...

Were you punished for that? No, because I think I rushed to his aid and mended him before. It was like, this is... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like that scene in Miller's Crossing where that dude hits his kid and then says, like, ooh, did somebody hit you? No, I definitely got in trouble.

Of course I got in trouble. Did you... Were you a big... And again, I might be like wish casting what I want to hear the answer to be, but like, again, like your uncle's Francis Ford Coppola, like I want to believe you all like took giant trips to Italy. We, not in my youth, but as a,

so we have taken giant trips to Italy. Okay. If that's what you want to hear. I'm happy to hear it, yeah. But my family is from a small town in Italy called Bernalda. And my uncle recently, or I don't know how recently now, but like purchased a little building

in the town of Bernalda and turned it into a hotel, of course. But nonetheless, it's been a place that we can all go. And literally it is the town that we're in. It is a very, very small town. I can see, I can walk around to, I can see where my great-great-grandfather and mother lived. And it's tiny. And they say, Salve, Salve. around to, I can see where my great, great grandfather and mother lived and it's tiny.

And they say, Salve, Salve. I mean, and there's, some people almost speak half Latin, half Italian, it's quite old and a very beautiful place, a very small town. And I recommend that you just get, that area is really beautiful in the south of Italy. But yes. Do you feel like a sort of generational pull?

Like when you saw, when you see your great great grandparents home, do you feel anything? Yeah. You do? Well, I don't, I rarely feel anything, but I feel like when I walk around the town, pretty good. Yeah.

And I feel like these people kind of look like me. Right. Or I don't know what it is, but like I, they say hi to me. And people don't usually say hi to me. Like they say, hi, and I go like, Hey, I guess they think I'm Italian. Like I feel really included. Do you speak Italian? I can understand Italian.

Okay. Kind of. Yeah. But I think that just because the nature of the language is they want you to understand it. Yeah. So maybe you just understand hand gestures. I understand hand gestures and enthusiasm.

But I, no, but I, and I understand a little bit. So I can kind of piece together things, but no, I don't fully understand it, so I can kind of piece together things. But no, I don't fully understand it, but I can kind of fake it. I mean, I was in Chicago working on this show Fargo, and I was meant to be like this, I'm an American Italian in the show, but I'm surrounded by all these real Italian Italians that work for me in this gang. I remember some of them are some pretty big guys in Italy, some real act. We went out to some Italian restaurant in Chicago and we went in and the guy who Rematri Di saw them was like, oh, my Conte Questa Dominicato came over. He's like,

Mwah, mwah, mwah, ciao, conti, grazie, grazie, buono, grazie. And he's like kissing all of these guys. He's like, oh, ciao, ma grazie. I was like this whole thing. And I'm the last guy. And I was like, ciao, and I'm like, bleh. I just did like a thing.

And so I could tell he thought I was Italian by proxy. So we go in, and then I was like, sit there and I was like, how long can I keep, what am I supposed to do? I feel weird. Like, should I say I'm not Italian? Or maybe he doesn't think, maybe this is just narcissistic.

He did think I was Italian. He kept speaking to me and then the other, the people kept speaking on my behalf. Anyway, fast forward, my family comes to town like three weeks later, my wife and kids. And I was like, I know where we should go eat. We went to the Italian restaurant and I walk in there and I was like, Signore, come a bunch of my gratsi,

porve, and I was like, three. Table in the back, please. Then he's like, ah, si, si. Then he came and brought these American menus, English menus, and I was like, grazie. Oh, man, game is up. Yeah, but my family does. There's a lot of Italian, but I'm very Italian,

and there's a lot of Italian, and half Italian, half Polish. Yeah. It's a nice mix. It's the mix where I feel like you could do a one-man show about it that would have like a funny title. That's funny. What would it be called? I don't know.

Like, you have a like, I don't know. Mama, I don't know. Spaghetti and sausage. Mama Mieski. Mama Mieski. Yeah, Mama Mieski. Mama Mieski. There you go.

Look at that. What are we doing here? Trying to come up with, we're not gonna beat Mama Mieski. So what, and then where else would you, would you travel within the States? Was that something you guys would do? Oh, I did, by the way, I did go to the set of Rad. Just to go back to your Rad thing.

Oh, nice. I did go to the set of Rad. Yeah, when I was younger, like, I loved the Rocky movies, but Rad, to me, was maybe the first movie that I watched, like, 12 times, like, just renting it. And so, and I gotta say that also one of the bigger memories that I had in my life is I got to go to the recording session of like Break the Ice,

like all those songs. I remember being in the studio for like these musical, those songs. And I was just like, fuck, that's, I think, yeah, I just was so into music even then. I was like, yes, this is amazing. And so anyway, but I loved, I loved, right? Yeah, like, fuck. That's, I think, yeah, I just was so into music. Even then I was like, yes, this is amazing. And so anyway, but I loved, I loved Red. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Same, same. It was fun, sorry. How young were you when Phantom Planet started? So we started, I guess I just turned 14. Get out of here. Wow. Yeah, but yeah, that was like when that group of people finally clicked was 14 years old.

And you were all 14? No, I was the youngest one. Okay. The oldest was 16. Still, that's so awesome. Yeah, yeah, it was wild. Yeah. My wife was just saying, I said you were gonna be on,

and she's like, oh, what's that song? And I was like, California? And she's like, no, no, no. And she's a big Coconut Records fan. Oh, wow. Yeah. And I was like, this song? And she's like, no, this song. And played West Coast that she's all about. Yeah. Thank you.

Yeah. Tell her thank you. And so were there, were you guys a family that would travel within the States? Like, what would you do, what was a big vacation for the Schwartzman's? There weren't any. Okay. I don't, that I recall, I think that we were,

I think, first of all, we, I think we were just really happy to be home. Yeah. We were that kind of family too. Yeah, we just, I loved being home and I still do to this day. I just, I love, I loved my backyard. Yep. You know, we had a backyard and we just, I loved being home and I still do it to this day. I just, I love, I loved my backyard. Yep.

You know, we had a backyard and I just, I really loved being outside and doing stuff just around my house. That was just so fun to me. And, you know, to be honest, I don't even think that I could say one time, I think I went to New York, one time maybe with my dad accompanying him on like a pseudo business trip, actually, which is where the line from that West Coast song comes from about packing yourself in the suitcase because he was going to New York and I didn't want him to go.

So I packed myself in a suitcase beside his suitcase. Oh wow. Because I think I had seen that in, well, it's a very 80s trope to be in, right? Yeah, yeah. Was there ever a MythBusters about that? That you probably couldn't do it? That you probably couldn't pack yourself in a suitcase

and get on an airplane? Yeah, and have your dad bring you on by mistake and- Yeah, there was like an earnest- Pick this heavy thing up? There was an earnest, no, they like put you in the, you come down like baggage client, like you come down baggage, it's like, but that was my idea. And so I, anyway, but for most, that I can remember, we stayed at home a lot and when we went on trips, I think that we would go to Palm Springs. And just for, we'd go for like a weekend or something.

And my brothers, Matthew and Robert again, they play tennis and my father played tennis. I was a ball boy. And- Oh no, that's worse than not playing tennis. Anyway, so that's where we've, that's like, you know, that's the nearest most kind of often version of a trip would be these, and they were great, They were wonderful experiences. And the only other ones like that were kind of annual were we would go to Napa sometimes for Thanksgiving to my uncle's place.

And that was so fun. Another rad thing, which I didn't expect to talk about. But somehow my dad, to talk about, but somehow my dad, we got to own these like vans that were used in the movie, Rad, I guess, as like transport vans. They were Chevy black Astro vans. And they were equipped somehow in the back with a power outlet. So we would take this little VCR, like a V, you know, like a TV that just had a VCR built into it?

Oh, yeah. I loved it. And we would take out the back seat, lay carpets, lay blankets down, and me and my three brothers would lay in the back and watch movies while my dad and mom drove us up to Napa. That's great. And it's so dangerous, now in retrospect. But those are my big like kind of family trips as I remember them. And we took other trips. I went on the two big trip like kid trips that I remember with my mom. My mom took me to a playwriting convention in Italy once when she was 11. Then the year after we went to the Eugene O'Neill Center in 1992. We stayed in a house a mile from there and they never went there.

I just went there every day. It was my favorite. I loved it. I worked in the bar and I would go see plays every day. How old were you? I think I was 11, bar and I would go see plays every day. And how old were you? I think I was 11, 11 and a half, 12. Wow. I'd go to the Q&A. I'd go to all the Q&As, which I loved with all the playwrights. I loved it.

And was this some... Do you think they did that trip because they knew how much you would love it? No. Okay, so the byproduct was they went on a trip for them and you were the one who enjoyed it. I don't even know why they went on the trip. I actually thought it was rude. They seemed rude. They went because someone affiliated for them and you were the one who enjoyed it. I don't even know why they went on the trip. I actually thought it was rude. They seemed rude.

They went because someone affiliated with the place was like, come to the thing. Come out here. And they came and they never, they just knew someone that was like, it'd be nice if you were in Connecticut. I don't know. I don't know really this. I'll get to the bottom. My mom will avoid the answer, but I'll ask her.

Where is it exactly? The Eugene O'Neill Center is in Connecticut. Hartford. Okay, great. And so you, and were you surprised as an 11 year old how much you loved it or would you know on your way like this is gonna be right up my alley? I knew I was gonna love it.

Cause the year before I had gone to this, we went to this play, my mom was invited to this incredible thing called the Dionysian Festival. I don't know what it was, but it really really it was a big impact on me as a kid where it was in Italy and basically what it was was a little hotel, a little town that really was like a hotel sort of, it was that small, had invited 12 playwrights from around the world to come and perform a play in their language with actors from their country for all these other playwrights and actors. And so every night would be like the Nigerian play, the French, the German play. And all the actors lived there and they all rehearsed in these little rooms.

And my parents took it as like a trip, I think really for them to have like a nice trip to Italy, but they took me. So it was me and them, Matthew and Robert. Played tennis with each other? They're not into the arts as much. No. Sorry. So, but they were back.

And, but I went and I remember that being a definitive moment for me, because I remember like going into this cafeteria and all the actors were like getting food and from different countries and they were all eating together. And I remember loving that camaraderie. I was like, oh, this is amazing. Like, because I loved music even before then. My dream was to be in a band from a very young age. And what I loved about it was sort of like

when I would see live performances looking to the side of the stage and seeing other bands watching from the side of the stage. And I always love the idea of like, wow, they're all together and they travel together. It's like a circuit, you know, they all are this little team that move together and they support each other and this idea of like helping one another. I just was really like excited about that and then being with all these actors and stuff, I I just I didn't think that I would be an actor at all. But I loved this feeling of like this community of people. And I loved the

plays and I loved going to the Q&A's. And I remember like this one guy, this like one German playwright, he walked everywhere. We'd always pass him in a car, but he'd be walking. And then someone said, why do you walk? He said, because when I walk, I dream. And I just remember that being such a great, I was like, wow. And anyway, blah, blah, blah, it sounds pretentious,

but it wasn't some fancy thing. It was just this small idea someone had to get a bunch of playwrights together. I will. It's so, it's such a beautiful thing that you're, it is a reminder that we can't force things on our kids, but you do something like that and if it like clicks with your kids, what an incredible byproduct of taking a vacation to a playwright festival. Yeah. And the same happened at the Eugene O'Neill Center. They were people playing volleyball, the actors play volleyball, they do a performance at night then a Q&A the next morning of the play. So I'd always go to the, I biked myself from my house to where we were because my parents

never came there. So I biked and I would just go to the Q&As. And then also I became friends with the actors. So like, I remember Boomerang came out that summer and I went with all the actors from one of the plays there to go see Boomerang, the new Eddie Murphy, film at the time. I thought you were gonna say,

cause obviously Boomerang was a play first and that was out of the festival. No, the seeing the feature, the adaptation. Uh. But that. I mean, it is really, I mean, it's so funny to have been introduced to you first, first time I saw you as like this really precocious

high school student, and it just feels like that seems to be who you were. No, I wasn't. Okay. Because, no, because I, well, I'll tell you. So, I was't. Okay. Because, no, because I, well, I'll tell you. So I was a bad student. Well, so was that character. Yeah, kind of famously.

Yeah. Hanging out with adults. Maybe I was spinning off that you were hanging out with adults. Yeah, you know, that might be sort of true. I mean, I- I loved that too. I- That's true.

When I went to camp, I would tend to like befriend a counselor. I feel like I was, my best friend at camp was the least popular counselor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As you say that now, I remember my first sleepover at my friend Liam's house. He had like this birthday party

and his mom was an artist and an art teacher and she had like their house, but in the back was like an art teacher. And she had like their house, but in the back was like her art studio. And I remember we all played and did all this stuff. And at the end, it was time to go to bed. And what we had done was we all put out sleeping bags in the art studio and everyone went to bed. And I just remember like, it was my first sleep.

And I remember everyone being asleep, like, instantly. And I was not, couldn't fall asleep, and I didn't know what to do, so I got up and went to the main house, you know, the main house, just to the house, and then I knocked on the thing and I came in and I said, I can't sleep. And I actually ended up going and getting into the bed with the parents and watching TV with them till like midnight. It was awesome. Yeah, that's fantastic.

I also appreciate just parents of a kid that's not there being able to clock right away. This is what's gotta happen. We can't talk this guy back into his sleeping bag. By the way, it did, it came back, well, it comes around and comes around because it did happen to me recently with my son in a sleepover.

And then his friend, my son fell asleep. My son's like an old man, like he was like, oh, can I go to bed already, please? Like, he's like that. Like, Is this the youngest? Yes, he's crazy.. Like, um. Is this the youngest? Yes, he's crazy. He's never called me dad in my whole life.

He only calls me Jason. I don't know. It's very, I've never, he, and I don't know why. And I'm used to it. Like, I don't, like, even when he was at camp, I wrote him, like, I wrote all my kids letters, like, I hope everything's great, love dad. But then when it was his, I wrote like, I hope everything's great, love dad. But then when it was his, I wrote like, hope everything's great, love Jason.

Yeah. And like, and yeah, so he's always, but yeah, he's like the kind of guy, like we'll be like in the car, my daughter will be like singing along to music, my 14 year old, and I'll be like, can you stop singing just once so that I can hear the song, how it's actually supposed to be sung, please?

The best. Like, you know, he's actually supposed to be sung, please. The best. Like, you know, he's like a real grumpy. Anyway, but he had a friend come over and they went to bed, the kid did not, he's like, I can't sleep. And I was like, oh, Jesus. And so he ended up, like, I ended up watching a bunch of cartoons of this kid for like four hours. Would you ask questions at these Q&As at these festivals? Did you ever step up to the mic? Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember any of them.

Yeah, that's okay. But yeah, I remember doing that. But then this is all like- But you were engaged, you were fully engaged. This is all in that period right before, I don't know, you know that moment before you get sort of squashed as a person. Yeah, well before you, shame, you don't feel shame yet.

Yeah, exactly. It's like just that last little moment before you're ashamed and that sort of sweet moment. And then, you know, this type of behavior didn't continue. Right. This is sort of the golden era where you were just like fully flapping. For a second, yeah. It was nice.

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I like that you can use it. Yeah, no, you are different from the kid in Rushmore. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Wait, but your kids do go to sleepaway camp. So what... This is fascinating to me because I feel like everyone I know who went to sleepaway camp is sending their kids to sleepaway camp.

But how... What was... Was your wife the one who thought it was important? Yeah, my wife loves camp. Okay. Fuck it, she's a sleepaway camp. She's a winner. You know what I mean? Winners like camp. They do.

I will say, my wife doesn't, I somehow married a Jewish woman who's like anti-sending kids to sleepaway camp, which I didn't know they existed. But, cause I do want to say, I'm like, that's where the winners go. Well, I will, my wife was like, she so you went to camp. Yeah I'm like did they like make you like line up on a dock the first day and swim out to like a buoy

first one back? Yeah! And I was like were you like the first one back? She's like, maybe, yeah, that's why you like camp. Yeah. When you're the last guy. Yeah, that's not for you. It's not a great place to go for a month. Because I'm guessing the best thing about puppetry camp, no winners, no losers. Objective. Subjective. It was like, yeah, that's a worm. It was like, yeah.

But do your kids love it? Your kids must love it. Love it. My kids fucking love it. My daughter loves it. She's gone like the last five years now. And my son went when he was seven and he's going back again now at eight and he loved it.

Is it? I mean, the thing, did the thing go to the end? I mean, the thing, did the thing go to the end? I mean, the thing, did the thing go to the end? years now and my son went when he was seven and he's going back again now at eight and he loved it. Is it, I mean the thing. Do they go to your wife's camp? The camp that she went to? No, no. Okay.

They go to a camp here in California, Lake Tahoe. And do you miss them terribly? Yeah, I do. I miss them so much. And I think what's amazing is the idea to me is that your children should be better than you. I mean, that's evolution. So I'm so happy when I see like that they have these strengths or these things that maybe afflict me or afflicted me that they don't have yet. I'm so happy that maybe, oh, my family, it's progressing in a way.

And they have a lot of, I have a lot of things that they don't have, thankful that I'm glad that they don't have it. Like, I'm so happy. So when I see them, but there is a feeling like when they take them away, when you have to just drop them off and they just, that's sad. And I only can, have you ever taken your dog to like the vet? Yeah.

And they come out and take your dog, they go like, hi, you rascal, come on. And they take the dog and the dog's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And they pull the dog and you're like, it's okay buddy, I'll be right here. Like that's like kind of how it feels because you have this knowledge that they don't have. Yeah.

Like you're about to take- But then it's only year one, right? I mean, at this point your kids must run to- They, I love it. Yeah, they love it and it's really cool. And they come back and they must come back better. You must just be like, look at this. I mean, because I do think there's a level of maturity

that can only happen when you're not around your parents all the time. And they don't, absolutely. And I don't, what's really sweet too is that now they have this thing that's their camp. Like when they talk about camp, it's so sweet because they're like, oh yeah. And then remember when this and this like like they don't, like it's, they have this shared memory together that's not even about school or our house, or it's like a whole other environment.

But still, even then my daughter's like, yeah, Julius ignores me at camp. Oh wow. Like I walked by him and he had like red paint, and I'm like, hey, do you want me to get that off? He's like, no. Which is Julius the youngest? Yeah.

Great. I love everything I'm hearing about this guy's right at my alley. I'm very, I'm digging his vibe. I gotta tell you, he's the greatest. And I, yeah, he calls me, yeah. You know, he calls me Jason when I remember like in kindergarten, I like volunteered for like

a day to do stuff at the school and like I was there and two other parents there and the teacher's like Okay, so class if you have a parent in the room today, please go and stand next to them and introduce us to your parent. So like they go up and like so like like This girl is like standing beside her mother and she's like Michelle Who are who are you with? What do you call her? And what should we call her? It's like mama It's like okay, and what should we call her? Samantha hello, Samantha Okay, Rachel. Who are you with mommy who and what should we call it?

You know Tanya. Hello Tanya Okay, and Julius who do you have with us? Jason Okay, and what should we call him dad And I was like what and then he, ah, I'm just kidding. You can just call him smarty pants. It's like you brought your grandfather to school. It's like, I'm being, I'm like,

the hell is going on around? It's like so embarrassing. It's wonderful. I'm like, don't say, don't embarrass me. Anyway. Did you, where do you like going? I want to ask you guys so many questions. Go, ask one.

Yeah. Well, so yeah, so like for you guys, when you, in terms of like, well, you get asked a lot of questions all the time, but like, did you have physical fights very much? Not a ton. have physical fights very much? Not a ton. No, I mean, one to my knowledge, and I can't remember another one.

Really? It wasn't just, maybe it was the odd like pushing and shoving, but we had- One of the issues was we would hang out a lot where it would be me, my friends, plus Josh. Well, that's right. And the roughhousing, often Josh would be me, my friends, plus Josh. Well, that's right. And the rough housing, often Josh would get hurt. And in the way that you pushed your brother off the bunk bed,

everybody would run to tend to Josh because we knew if he sort of ran to my parents, the party was over. So it was a lot of, you're good. Look at you, you're good. And like while they tackle me and hold me down and tell me how good I am and how I'm not in pain. And did you feel pressure to be good?

Like were you like, I can keep hanging, I can keep doing this? Yeah, I think I was quick to, our father used to always say, and I don't know if it was real, I think it was a trick, but like we would play a lot of one-on-one football where our dad would be the all-time quarterback.

Yeah, love it. I would like dive for a ball and would hit the ground and I'd get hurt and I'd start crying and our dad would say, you were crying before you hit the ground. And I don't think I was, but that was enough to sort of rewire my brain and sort of redirect me and like, maybe I was?

Like maybe I was just afraid of hitting the ground and maybe this doesn't hurt as bad as I think it does. So I was quick to cry and maybe quicker than I needed to be. That sounds like an Elvis Costello lyric. Yeah. Crying before you hit the ground. But he won't sing it like that anymore. He sings it a new way now.

She was quick to cry. She was quick to cry. She was quick to cry, but she didn't, yeah. So yeah, so, and it was like, you know, if I cried and I left the sort of, we always hung out in our basement. That was like our playroom. We had this finished basement. What was in there?

What was in there? There was a couch that could pull out into a bed, but it had no metal in it. It was just foam. Yeah. It was a very inexpensive fold-out couch. But we would, I mean, most of the games were like throwing a little Nerf football

and like, and just like crashing into stuff. Yeah. But it wasn't like a room full of toys or anything. And it wasn't- Was it carpeted when we were playing? I feel like it was carpeted back in our day. Are you blown away when you see the toys now that they make? Oh, it's incredible.

Isn't it crazy? It's crazy. It's nuts, right? Yeah. In terms of what? I mean, I like... The average toy, like, just the, like, if not that we get, like if you just like walk,

if you went to even just like Target, the average total, like there's like Jurassic Park masks that you could put on. Yeah. And you're gonna open your mouth and it roars and the eyes blink and like look around. I mean, just, I mean. Like that is far out, like that's.

The Lego leap is the craziest thing. It really is. Because they're getting the same enjoyment out of it that I'm sure we did. Yeah. But at the same time, that's when I feel a million years old where I wanna tell them,

you know, I think ours came in three colors and three shapes. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is, but I've talked about this, but last year I made a terrible miscalculation, which is I bought the Home Alone house. And I did it a year too early because I realized I was just building it.

And then also kind of loving it because it was in my, we were staying with our in-laws and so I would just go in the other room and just kind of quietly. I would try to trick one of the boys to come and sit next to me so it looked like it. It was just like very quietly, one of the boys to come and sit next to me. So it looked like it, but it just went very quietly, quietly building the booby traps. Oh. I might catch some heat for this, but we went to a first birthday last weekend

over to Buddy's house. And we were like running a little bit late and Mackenzie, my wife was like, well, can we stop at this store to get a gift? And I was like, there's gonna be so many gifts and this kid's won. And like you walked into the house and it was already like pre-gifts,

there were so many toys. And it was like, we're just adding to like, no. And we did not bring a gift and I don't know that it was expected or required or whatnot, but didn't do it, don't feel bad. Yeah, there are a lot of, yeah, just toy, it's a little cuckoo, the toys. But wait, I was gonna say the Lego thing,

have you ever heard of Lego Beach? No. I've always wanted, I wanna go to this place, Lego Beach. It's apparently, and I might botch all the info, but there, I feel like in the late 90s or early 2000s, a shipping freight boat holding many, many, many things, but among them, four million Lego pieces that were being transferred from one country to another, sank. And all the pieces washed up on this beach, I believe in England somewhere, and it's called Lego Beach.

And people go from around, like Lego aficionados and hunters go there to look for these pieces, and they still find them and people collect them. It's like a kind of a Lego destination if you're a Lego hunter. It's a, if you're a Lego hunter. Only if. Only if. You're like, I like Legos.

No, no, no, that's not enough. You definitely want the hunt. Let me ask you a question. When's the last time you dug one up? Sure, sure, sure. We all get a hit when we buy it at a store, but the real, the real discovery. Yeah, I'm not talking about hunting for like a deal. I'm talking about hunting, finding it in the wild.

Nah, you gotta pay for it. That's your Lego. I like a Lego beach. I, I'm, we're, we've run out of time, which breaks my heart. I feel like, I know we do, because it's,'ve run out of time, which breaks my heart. No. I feel like, I know we do, cause it's, and it's my fault. It's my fault. We didn't even talk about anything.

I know, and I want to do it again. Will you come back? This is so fun to talk to you. Yeah, I mean, I'll just do it. Can we just keep going right now for another 90 minutes? No, I have to go pick my kids up at school. I fucked it. I blew it.

Okay. Wait, you just ripped up the paper that had all the specs of the microphone on it. Sure, ask them what was it again? Wait, Josh, but you're not done yet because Josh has to ask you some questions. Wait, this is so sad because I did have some good stories. Then we'll bring you back.

Yeah, just come back. Do you mind? I feel like I botched it though. Look, I'm a fan of the show and you've had some great people on and this was not as good as those ones. No, it was great. And there's very few people

that we wanna have back immediately. Oh my God, I'll come back immediately. Okay, great. I'll just stay on this link and then you guys can come back. Speed round. Okay, hit me. All right, you can only pick one of these.

Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Educational. What is your favorite means of transportation? Walking. Great. Great. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional,

other than your own family, what family would you like to take a family vacation with? I was thinking, I think with Noel and Liam Gallagher would be good. Oh, yeah. Drama. So jealous. So jealous of that answer.

We could come too. Yeah, I would love to come. You wanna come? I'll get the table for four. By the way, I think we should get this in soon because I don't think they're gonna be together for long. I try to schedule this trip soon. If you had to be stranded on a desert island

with one member of your family, who would it be? Well, I think as long as everyone else was okay, it'd be my wife. Great. So my kids were watched. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

And if not, it would just be with my favorite of my children, Julius. Yeah. That's, I mean, if I, if I could be on a desert island with one member of your family, it'd be Julius. I'm just kidding. No, it would be my wife. You're from Los Angeles. Would you recommend Los Angeles as a vacation destination? Yes, absolutely. Great. Great. And then Seth, Seth's going to close it out for us. Jason, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have. And was it worth it?

Yeah. Okay. Jason, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have. And was it worth it? Yeah. Okay. But your answer was the great, what you said was my favorite thing ever. What? I don't even remember what I said at this point. Josh had something like, look at it. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it just keeps on going. This isn't even it.

This is, it just keeps on going for, and you like, and yet, this is sort of all you need. For something like that. I think he said, but this is enough. This is more than enough. This is enough, it was more than enough. And I think that's a, you know, even a little bit of the Grand Canyon is more than enough. Imagine how vast.

And I thought, what that I got from that was Lennon and McCartney. Oh yeah. That's the thing. That's you guys. I think the great thing about this podcast, the minute you start listening, you're like, oh, they sound alike, they are alike. And then you just spend some time with us.

No, no, no, it's Lennon and McCartney because you know, John, Paul McCartney had the line, it's getting better all the time. And then John Lennon came up with the line to sing after it, it can't get much worse. There you go. So that's some real insight. I mean, in the end, it felt like you tricked us

and this whole time has just been therapy. You've been the therapist. Yeah. Now that's what the beard's for. You know what this is called? What's that? This is called, I forgot what the name of it, it's Synoptical Illusion.

Anyway, anyway guys, love ya. As they say, always end the podcast with a visual gag. That you don't know the name. That you can't name. They can't name, so the whole, now everybody lists things like what, but what was he even doing? He didn't put a name on it.

Can I tell you one last terrible story? Yeah. There's this one person, just along the lines of this. Yeah. There's this one person. Shaking a pencil to make it look rubbery. Like rubbery, yeah. There's this one person that I can't name,

but every time I'm with them, you know how there's like people that are just like, you're Kryptonite. Like I. Yep, yep. They just make you nervous. You say the wrong thing every single time. I have one of these people and it just,

that reminds me of the last time I saw this person, we share a birthday. And I don't know the person very well, but I saw him somewhere and I was like, he said, hey Jason, how are you? And I said, good. And he said, happy belated birthday. And I said, happy belated birthday.

And I did remember that there was another person who had our birthday and I wanted to tell him. I said you know who else has our birthday and he was drying off he had gotten out of a pool he goes I said you know who else has a birthday and I go no who he goes no who I go um oh shoot shoot shoot and he's like drying off like wait wait sorry I'm so sorry I didn't I just thought I remember who had this he's like it's okay no no no no no no no hold on and he's like now he's like almost totally dry sure it was um they have um they they were a boy it was a boy and he think, I think he did music.

He's like, it's really okay. You really, and like, I never found out who the birthday was. And he got completely dressed in front of me, basically put on new pants, new thing, combed his hair, did everything, had a back. He's like, well, if you remember, let me know. And it was just like, it was just such an amazing thing that I realized like, well, if you remember, let me know. And it was just like, it was just such an amazing thing

that I realized like afterwards, he had enough time to completely dry off and change. And I still never came up with the name of the person because I was so nervous. I'm intimidated by the person is why. I'm very excited to, I'm gonna do some digging and figure out who this intimidating is gonna be. It won't take.

Our homework. It won't take long. Nope. I take long. It won't take long. Nope. I already, I mean, I got your birthday on this piece of paper right here. We're going to work. Yeah. Seth's gonna go get his kids. Jason, it's great to see you.

I'm so sorry. I wish this went on for another hour. It's a pleasure. I appreciate it. It's great to see you as always. Hey, you guys are so wonderful and congratulations. And I love your other podcast as well. Thank you. Some good friends of ours. I I love your other podcast as well. Thank you.

Some good friends of ours. I listen, I'm deep into it now. It's the best. It's the best. Love you guys. All right, love you too buddy. All right, Yo, Adrienne, Mom, she was the lady in Rocky, but she said they thought she was someone else.

But then he went to set in when he met Dolph Lundgren. Dolph's hand fit over Jason's whole head. Had a sister and some brothers, but was different than the others, liked to write poetry up in his room. They'd be swinging rackets, he'd be making puppets. Kind of dude who liked to lock on his door. A playwriting festival was where he loved to be. In Connecticut for the one in Italy. Oh, spaghetti! Those were just the

greatest days back into the Q&A's. Also, he went to see Boomerang. Yeah, those playwriting festivals were so eye opening. Maybe one day on the stage he'd be with Mama Miski. Jason, he was beaming, walking and dreaming. Forever changed by Boomerang. Now he's got three children, youngest calls him Jason. You can call him Dad or call him Smartypants. Might be afraid of offer men or a former Yankees captain. We'll ask him next time He's on the pod ...

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