Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JEFFREY DEAN MORGAN Drove a Hearse from Seattle to LA

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

Seth and Josh welcome Jeffrey Dean Morgan to the pod! Straight from his family farm in the airstream, Jeffrey talks all about farm life in upstate New York, childhood memories of driving from Lake Arr...owhead to Disneyland, the many jobs he had growing up, his love for F1, what it will be like for his kids to transition to being city kids, his family’s upcoming trip to France, and so much more! Plus, Jeffrey chats about his new series, Destination X! Support our sponsors: Freedom From Religion Whether you’ve always been secular or have left religion behind, believe in keeping faith out of government, F-F-R-F has your back Join us. Go to FFRF.US/Freedom or text “FAMILY” to five eleven five eleven and become a member today. Text fees may apply. Beam For a limited time, you can get UP TO 35% off plus 2 FREE gifts when you go to shopbeam.com/TRIPS and use code TRIPS at checkout. Uplift Desk Elevate your workspace with UPLIFT Desk. Go to https://upliftdesk.com/trips for a special offer exclusive to our audience. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, Bashi. Hi, Sufi. How are you? I'm great. How are you? Good. Nice. Are you, what'd you do this weekend?
Starting point is 00:00:08 A couple weeks ago when I saw that tickets had gone on sale for Final Destination bloodlines. Oh, right. I bought 10 for an IMAX at the Grove, 7 p.m. Saturday night. You would just buy 10 and just go yourself. You just wanted the box office to be big enough that they would keep making Final Destination. I've always loved the Final Destination franchise. Huge fan.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Yeah, and some old friends in the past, like Nikki Sullivan, our old buddy, who I feel like I maybe saw the first two with, but I haven't seen a movie in a long time. She texted me like a week after I bought tickets and she's like, hey, should we do this? And I was like, I already have 10, you want in? And yeah, so we had a big group, got together,
Starting point is 00:00:51 had dinner beforehand, great, gory. So you were happy? I was very happy, yeah. So that was kind of, that was my big thing. And then I went to a memorial for Lynn Marie Stewart, who played Miss Yvonne on Pee Wee's Playhouse, who sadly passed away, but she had a, her memorial was a luau at this place
Starting point is 00:01:19 called the Friendship Pavilion, which I'd never been to, which is also just a perfect name for an event to remember her. And I had a rehearsal for something, so I had to leave a little bit early, but it was such a warm, happy sort of, you know, good vibe and saw lots of great people and wish I could have stayed to see everyone speak, because it was clearly going to be an excellent celebration of just a wonderful, wonderful person who will be much missed. Well, that's lovely.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah. We had a very nice thing this week, which was this little arts, like a sort of local art store. You've been there. Have I dragged you with the kids? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So they had their 25th anniversary and this is just sort of a place where kids can go
Starting point is 00:02:09 and do arts and crafts. And basically a lot of the stuff is just donated items from, just like buttons and old markers and pine cones. And my kids could just spend hours there. So they did a fundraiser and they knew what they were doing. It's attached to a pottery studio. So one of the things was you could donate five dollars and your kids could smash a clay pot.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Oh yeah. I mean, just it was a smash tent. Yeah. And basically, long story short, I'm out like $1,500. I'm not, but I will, I mean, each kid did it once and they reacted the way I imagine you react the first time you do heroin, which is all you can think about is when is the next time I'm going to do heroin.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Like Addy especially was like, one more, one more pot, one more pot. Yeah. Da-da, one more pot, one more bowl, one more bowl. And so they smashed that and yeah, they're real, real happy about it. Well, we years ago were in Tivoli Gardens or Tivoli Garden, I don't know if it's plural or not,
Starting point is 00:03:23 but Tivoli Garden, I don't know if it's plural or not, but Tivoli Garden in Copenhagen. And there are rides that you can go on. And then there are sort of little games that you can play, you know, like a ring toss kind of a game and that kind of stuff. But there was a booth where there were these ceramic plates sort of clipped onto the back wall.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And I forget, I think they moved. I think they were going back and forth. Yeah, I think they were too, yeah. And for whatever the amount of money you paid, you got like three wooden balls. They were like carved wooden balls. And I remember- They were real Danish balls. Yes. Like it felt like
Starting point is 00:04:03 a craftsman's ball. They weren't perfectly circular. It was like, as soon. Like it felt like a craftsman's ball. They weren't perfectly circular. It was like as soon as someone made it close enough, they were like, this one's done and moved on. That's enough of a ball. Yeah. And you'd pay money and you'd get these balls
Starting point is 00:04:17 and you could chuck them and ideally you would hit a plate and smash it. And I remember, I forget which one of us, but we smashed it and we were like, what do we win? And they were like, nothing, that's it. You win the joy of destroying a plate. Yeah, and even when we found out we didn't win anything, we kept paying money to do it more because there's something so- Well, also it was like make believe money.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It's not like you can use it for real goods and services. Yeah, it's like this bill's pink, this one's blue. Come on, this one's got a duck on it. I've always said, we haven't talked enough about it, the best hot dog I've had in my life was at the Copenhagen Airport. Oh yeah. Was it that weird red hot dog?
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah, like think of a real, here, see if this sounds appetizing, listeners. Just the longest, skinniest, bright red hot dog. Yeah. Just the longest, skinniest, bright red hot dog. Yeah. They were selling it next to the luggage carousel. I think it was then I had put mustard on it with then like really crunchy onions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:18 It was probably like 730 in the morning. And I think about it all the time. And I feel like it maybe was, I don't even think it was licensed. And so I'm worried that if I go back, they're gonna be like, no, we got rid of him. What were those words? We got rid of him, that was Lars. Oh, we got rid of him, I see, I see.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah, so yeah, smashing stuff. Just smashing stuff, it was good. Back when we were young and we, smashing stuff. Just smashing stuff. It was good. Back when we were young and we could smash stuff. Now every time something gets smashed, I'm like, I got to pay to replace it. I like that art store was having a fundraiser because it always seems like every time we're there, you spend about $1,600.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I will say, it's not, for the fact that everything's donated, it does seem like, I don't know, it should be a little cheaper. Also, they're always calling and saying, hey, you left some stuff here, do you want to pick it up? I'm like, no. Yeah. The boys are always like, I'm not done with my castle. Oh yeah. Well, I think maybe then it's a good idea that they have this fundraiser because it tells kids,
Starting point is 00:06:26 if you don't pick your stuff up, it's going to go into the smash bin. Oh, that's true. Hey, the other cool thing they did was put an easel on like a spinner, and then the kids like basically paint in like ketchup bottles, and they would like just spray the paint. It would make like spin art. Oh, fun. And that the kids are a big fan of. And Addie's sucks so much because she just put way too much paint on it. So it just looks like brown. Also, the kids learn like Ash learned you like you squeeze it straight down, you know, and you're sort of, you're paying attention to the dose, whereas Addy
Starting point is 00:07:08 was kind of squeezing it to the side and definitely got some pain on some people who were just walking by the spinner. Yeah. Are any of these artworks currently in the gallery? They're in the gallery, yes. Okay. The gallery, for those people who don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:26 The gallery is in our damp as shit basement. It's in the scariest room of a very old house's basement. If you walk through the cobwebs, you actually haven't gone too far. You've convinced your children that that's a gallery. And then also, anytime you go visit, it's like, they'll be like, do you want to see the gallery? And you walk down there and it's, I'm sure mom's always terrified. You have to walk by multiple mousetraps, like a snake skeleton.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And then you can see just some real, real lazy art. But, you know, I love them. I don't know what I'd do without them. Hey, this is a really, this man, Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Oh, yeah, Negan for those who don't know. Negan, for you don't know. And I mean, just- From the Walking Dead.
Starting point is 00:08:23 In real life, a real reverse Negan. Yeah, real nice guy, not a bad guy. Yeah, Negan, ultimately, you know, a little bit of a Negan rehabilitation over the years. But still at core, a far worse guy than Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Yeah, I think, you know, if we're in a world where all of a sudden it's zombies, who knows how- Who knows how we'd behave. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Yeah, I'm not gonna just rush to judgment on Negan. Why? Just because he has a baseball bat with nails in it. Now all of a sudden he's a bad guy. Ha ha ha. All right, well, he's a delight and Pasha, you're a delight. Oh, so are you, Suze. You know what's not a delight?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Huh? The gallery. All right, here, enjoy them. JDM, those are my initials. Oh my God, I just jumped on. I know you were expecting to hear Family Trips, the theme song by Jeff Tweedy. I just remembered, yeah, Jeffrey Dean Morgan
Starting point is 00:09:20 has the same initials as you. Yeah, Josh Dellen Myers, not Joshua, everybody. So back off. Not Joshua, everybody, so back off. Not Joshua. All right, let's check it out. What a breakthrough. with the finest colors, here we go. Yeah. Hey.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Wow. Hello, boys. Look at you. Is this the Airstream that we read about? I'm in the fucking Airstream out in the middle of the field. At my house. A lot of times these showbiz people, they pretend they have an Airstream.
Starting point is 00:10:08 You know, they talk a big game and then you just show up fully inside it. I live in this thing. When I don't use it for work, my daughter and I like spend weekends out here with Pamela, we're camping. Yeah. Great. So how far away is it from like the main house?
Starting point is 00:10:24 It's not far. Okay. It's a couple hundred yards. But still, I mean, I would prefer that. I like the idea of going camping with my kids, but I don't want to be in a tent. So the Airstream sounds like a real win-win. No, it's way more like glampy.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I mean, you know, like last night, well, this weekend we spent the weekend in here, her and I, my 15 year old wants nothing to do with it. But she wants me to cook dinner in here and I'm like, when are we just going to the house or order some door dash? No data. So wait, this is, I want to get the age where a kid wants to actually spend a weekend in an Airstream with their dad.
Starting point is 00:11:01 She's seven, but she's been- Yeah, that's great. She's been cool with this since she was born. She's very much a daddy's girl and anything to be with her dad. Where my son is 100% opposite and just wants to hang out with mom. Oh, that's pretty well still. And he's 15. Where in the world are you, I'm sorry, Jeffrey?
Starting point is 00:11:20 I'm in upstate New York. Okay. Just outside of Reinbeck. We have a farm in Salt Point Salt Point, and we're actually, and I wouldn't say we're leaving the farm, but we are moving into the city full time, right next to where you live, Seth, on, we have a place, I shouldn't say where, but right there by Bowery Hotel. All right. You're going to be in the Seth district.
Starting point is 00:11:43 We look forward to seeing you. We're going to be in the Seth district. We look forward to seeing you. We're gonna be in the Seth district. Yeah. Yeah. But now, you also didn't kind of come to Airstreams late in life like these sort of modern hipsters. You were... Your youth was very Airstream forward, correct? Well, it was very camper forward. Remember the campers that you just slap on the back
Starting point is 00:12:02 of a pickup truck? And then we had... You know, it was funny, Remember the campers that you just slap on the back of a pickup truck? And then we had, you know, it was funny because I know you guys like to talk about vacations and family travel and all that stuff. And I'm like, last night I was thinking about it. I'm like, God, you know, we didn't, we didn't have any money, so we didn't do anything. By the way, I want to point out you do have money now in your state. You want to vacate 200 yards from your house.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I do. I sleep in my air stream. My wife loves it. We have four dogs too that want to come in here at the same time. So I got four dogs and my daughter and me. But we had a Volkswagen bus, a 1971 Volkswagen bus that I learned to drive in. But my dad retrofitted it with plywood and vinyl cushions that stuck to every part of your body on a hot day. And we would go road
Starting point is 00:12:53 tripping, camping and that kind of thing. And that was... And this Pacific Northwest? Pacific Northwest, yeah. Seattle. Just outside of Seattle. Born in Renton and then lived in a little town called Kirkland, which is like the East side of Lake Washington. Now I would imagine, you know, having a camper and taking road trips from a starting point of Kirkland, you saw some pretty amazing stuff though. Yeah, I mean, kind of I was so young
Starting point is 00:13:23 when my parents were together for one, because that was sort of a key to family vacations, I suppose. And my sister was four years younger than me, so she was really small. But I remember that the biggest trip we did was to Disneyland from Seattle in the bus. And I remember that very distinctly. Otherwise, you know, the great thing about the Pacific Northwest when you're a kid, I didn't know any better, was there was lots of places for like camping and we would just go pull up to a camp spot.
Starting point is 00:13:57 My parents would stay in the bus with the sticky vinyl and then I would sleep out in the tent. So, love that. Were you and your sister close despite the age difference? with the sticky vinyl and then I would sleep out in the tent. So low. Were you and your sister close despite the age difference? Not really, because four years is a tough difference when you're a 10 year old boy. You got a little sister who's just telling on you the whole time and that's kind of what I remember
Starting point is 00:14:19 to this day and it hasn't changed. She still tells on me. Could you ever negotiate with her to maybe shut up about some things? I thought that I had made great deals and then it would turn around that she would stab me in the back. My wife had a moment the other day
Starting point is 00:14:34 where she just was so worn down and you just were like, I feel like every good motherly instinct had just been burned off her and she was so tired and my daughter was just whining and she goes, no one, and you know, she's four or three, excuse me, and she was like, no one plays with me at school and my wife goes, is it because you're a narc? All right, now that's my conversation that I had with them because my wife kind of encourages the narcy behavior. I'm like, no, no, you can't be throwing,
Starting point is 00:15:07 I said that might be well and good to be like, the teacher loving you and stuff, but your friends are gonna, that's gonna follow you around. Don't be throwing people under the bus, kid. Also it's funny, because my wife is, she's a former prosecutor, and so the amount of like,
Starting point is 00:15:22 your whole career was based on narcs. Yeah. What would you do without a narc or two? I'm a prosecutor and so the amount of like, your whole career was based on narcs. What would you do without a narc or two? Ashame my daughter for narcing out? Is three, is that your only, is that your only one? No, I have three, I have a nine, seven. You know what, I can't even, I don't even remember how old she is. Nine, seven, and three.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Nine, seven, and three, yeah. Which baby was born in like the lobby? The middle one, yeah. A middle one, okay. And as my, I do have a joke where if you met him, you'd know. You would full on know. I wouldn't have been able to tell you before we had him
Starting point is 00:15:57 what a lobby baby's energy is, but he's got it. What about you, Josh, you? No kids, no kids, yeah. No! He's got his handful, about you, Josh? You? No kids. No kids, yeah. He's got his handful being an uncle to mine. Yeah. Yeah, that'll do it. Hey, we're going to take a quick break
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Starting point is 00:18:42 is when they do it by law. For membership information, text family to 511-511. Here we go. So do you think you knew, like, based on your upbringing? Are you surprised that you sort of have this farm life now? Well, my grandmother, my, actually, my great-grandmother, had a farm outside of Tac grandmother, my, my, actually my great grandmother had a farm outside of, uh, outside of Tacoma, Washington, and she had an array of animals, but it was primarily
Starting point is 00:19:12 a pig farm. And so you're going to love this. It all goes back to fucking Airstream. Uh, when I was little and I mean little, probably five, five, I guess I started going out there for a couple of weeks at a time during the summer and working there. And they, they didn't let me not work. I mean, I worked, I chopped cords of wood and, you know, feed the pigs. And, but I slept in an ancient airstream out in the middle of the field with three
Starting point is 00:19:40 cows and I would make a campfire and I would like wrap potatoes in in foil and chuck them in the fire and I remember being just a wee kid and surviving out there. Were you just surviving? Because it also sounds like maybe you were thriving. I loved it. I did. It was my favorite place to be. And then when I met my wife, I was doing a movie out in Santa Fe area. And I mean, literally, we had just met and we both had this kind of dream of having a farm. She grew up in Virginia. So kind of grew up in the boonies herself and we had this kind of idea that we would live on a farm and and own like a little cheese shop in town and literally within a week of meeting we had this all planned and figured out and um and now that's kind of what we have we live on a farm and
Starting point is 00:20:39 have the candy shop not a cheese shop um but you uh this is the cheese, sorry, the candy shop that Paul Rudd has also, has a candy shop. That's right. Yeah. That's right. He once came on my show and I believe he had either cookies with his face on it or lollipops with his face on it. He was really- Yeah, it's a, yeah, marshmallow. Yeah. Like a rice cookie. Oh, maybe marshmallow.
Starting point is 00:20:58 That's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's called Samuel's Sweet Shop? Samuel's Sweet Shop. Who's Samuel? Samuel is like the uncle of the original, the guy that originally started the candy store. A guy named Ira Gutner who was the first guy that Hillary and I met when we came up to Reinbeck.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I was doing a film across on the other side of the river, kind of the Kingston Woodstock area. And we came over to visit, do you know Griffin Dunn? Yeah, of course. Yeah, okay. I was coming over to visit Griffin who lives just outside of town. And we went into town and decided we needed a coffee and we went into Samuel's Sweet Shop when I met Ira.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And we bought a little cabin in the middle of the woods like that day. I just, I was like, and I had a house in LA and in the valley, you know, right there by Roma cafe, you know, whatever that, whatever that area is called studio city. Yeah. And I just bought my first house and I was like so excited and I was like, Oh, brand new house. you know, when those McMansions that they build there. And my wife hated it. And so we bought this little cabin like 1200 square feet. She was very pregnant. No, we had Gus at the time.
Starting point is 00:22:16 He had just been born. And we bought this little 1200 square foot cabin and lived there for, we never left. We, and we had this LA house and when it time, when it was time to, you know, decide school shit, we had to decide, we're gonna go back to LA or we're gonna stay here. And we decided to stay and I sold LA and we bought the farm, literally. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So you, this is when you're not working, you're always there. Yeah. Yeah. That's fantastic. And I'm kind of wherever the family is, we have a place in the city, like I said, and we do spend time there, but the kids go to school up here,
Starting point is 00:22:51 so we spend most of our time here. And right now, I'm looking out the window, it's beautiful. It's a real good day right now. It's dead for so long. Winter's so, everything's brown and there's no leaves on the trees. And then I go out of town for like two weeks
Starting point is 00:23:08 and I come back and it's, I remember why I live here. You know? Because during the winter I just bitch and moan. I'm too old for this shit now. Yeah, yeah. I don't wanna. This is the month. I would say this is the East Coast month where there's been a lot of rain
Starting point is 00:23:21 and just the greens are popping. It's popping. It's popping. Opened up my swimming pool and George and I were swimming this weekend. And my month is fall. That's what I love the most. I'm there too. Yeah, that's by far my favorite up here. But I'm a little worried about moving into the city full time.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah, me too. I mean, we sounds like you definitely should be. I'm interested to hear what your kids think, because I would imagine maybe the 15-year-old will appreciate the action. But I will say that my kids, nine, seven, and three, who are lucky enough to spend time out of the city as well, they don't care for New York at all.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Oh, really? Yeah, they're just like, I mean, they love, like they like going to school in New York and stuff, but their, you know, their very fair complaint is that it's loud and smells bad. And you're like, well, I don't know what the counter argument is to that. That's true.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I mean, the one thing is that they've been going to the city, you know, their whole lives. And I mean, really the reason we're we're leaving is the school lacks funding they're getting rid of all the arts programs and athletics and it's changed drastically in the last before how many months since November and and and in the stuff that he's interested in. And the schools just aren't as good.
Starting point is 00:24:46 They're passing everything off to AI now, which I think is crazy, the way to teach your children. And so, you know, we did some research and I called a lot of friends in that have grown up and raised their kids in the city and figured out the schools we wanted to go to and took a lot of visits and and I
Starting point is 00:25:07 Think we're really excited. In fact, I'm sure we probably will have kids The younger ones in the same school where your kids are knowing where you are. So yeah, I'm pumped I and they're excited about that and then I you know, I dangle look we can go to the farm on weekends It's not going anywhere. My daughter really loves the animals. My son doesn't care. Do you still, I remember when you were on my show, you have a, do you still have a donkey
Starting point is 00:25:34 that thinks it's a dog? Yeah, Paxton. Okay, great. Paxton. Yeah, yeah, he's still around. He doesn't, he's still like. And has he had any, is it dawned on him that he's a donkey yet? No, no, he's like, why am I in with these donkeys?
Starting point is 00:25:47 Every time I go down there, he runs to me like, dude, look where I am. You forgot me here again. Was this always Paxton's way? It's oh, well Paxton, Paxton was born here and I helped birth him. He got stuck on his way out. and so it was sort of a lobby situation. I just had to be there. Yeah, yeah. Lobby donkey. Yeah. So your kid probably loves the doorman. There's an inherent thing there. And so this
Starting point is 00:26:17 donkey just thinks that I'm his dad or that he's a dog both some combination of both But he's he's a hoot he's very funny. We got a weird array of animals here It's just they're all rescues and so they're all kind of messy They all have been like abused or something So at any given moment you could get killed because you know these animals all sort of hate humans The only one that's really good with them is my daughter. Oh wow. They all, she's like the animal whisperer. She can go up to like these bulls and stuff and it scares the crap out of me.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I'm like sprinting, get away from the fence line and the cow's just like kiss her. It's like crazy. Me, they'll like gore to death in a second. What a crazy thing. But good for her. It's like crazy. Me, they'll like gore to death in a second. What a crazy thing. But good for her. Her life will be a lot fuller that that. I think so. I think so. But I'll be honest, I am going back to the original thing. The kids going to do okay in New York. He's going to do great. Gus is gonna do fantastic. I'm a little bit worried about George's reaction. And she's the lippy sassy one too, so it'll be known. To loop back to your earlier life
Starting point is 00:27:37 when you said you took the trip to Disneyland, what do you remember? How long of a drive is that from Seattle? I think it took us three days and we would stop at world's biggest ball of yarn type stuff. You just do those. But we never went on planes anywhere. I never went on a plane until I was an adult.
Starting point is 00:27:59 It was always road trips. And I never realized that we didn't have a lot of money which is now I look back at it and I go oh man we were just busted. Because other people would fly around and fly to Disneyland and not our family. But yeah it probably took three or four days and then and then you visit for like three or four days and then you had the like three or four days and then you head to the road trip back, which was always sucks. Yeah, that was, there's nothing to look forward to there.
Starting point is 00:28:31 At least on the way going somewhere, you're like, well, I'm gonna see Mickey and go on some rides, it's gonna be awesome. Go at home. Also, no one feels like healthier after four days at Disneyland. No, no, it's brutal, it's brutal. Where would you stay in the camper when you got down there?
Starting point is 00:28:47 Was that sort of transportation and lodging? My mom's brother had a house in San Bernardino in the mountains up by Arrowhead. And so we stayed with him and then we'd go to Disneyland. Not an easy commute. No, no. From the mountains of Arrow go to Disneyland. Not an easy commute. No, no. From the mountains of Arohead to Disney.
Starting point is 00:29:09 No, no, but you know, cause I spent like 20 years in LA, so this was probably, it was in the seventies. So it wasn't like it is now, you know. Right, but still though, it's not like you're 10 minutes from the park. No, no, you leave at seven, you get there at 9.30, something like that.
Starting point is 00:29:29 But after doing the four day trip, I was like two and a half hours is nothing. How was your, I'm always fascinated to know the dynamics, was your, I'm assuming your dad was driving and was he a good sort of road trip captain? Yeah, my dad was, he just passed away this July and but I and there was such a change in him as I got older.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I saw him in a completely different light as I got older. I really understood kind of who he was when I was very seemingly very strict when I was young and I remember him being very serious about, you know, the driving and loud kids and You know, I see these Instagram things or these posts sometimes about Gen X just being a different generation you know, we didn't wear seat belts and everybody was chain-smoking in the cars and didn't matter if there was kids and And that's very much how it was and my dad was a no-nonsense kind of guy I just remember we had to be in the back and relatively quiet and not, not, uh, cause he would be the guy that just pulled over and whack you if you're messing around.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And then, you know, to see him with Gus was a completely different guy. And I'm like, what, what happened? Yeah. Responsible for your, uh, Gus's wellbeing. That Well, he's not responsible for Gus's wellbeing. That's true. He just gets to giggle at me now. Yeah, see? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So when you're driving and you have to sort of keep it together in the back, are you guys listening to music? Are you reading? Like what entertains you on the drive? I think reading and I remember playing cards a lot. I think my mom and I would play cards. She would come back there with us
Starting point is 00:31:08 and play cards now and again. That's also like, I just feel like, you know, like again, the kind of cards we were driving around back then, like, yeah, there was room for a table. Yeah, well, I remember, cause you know, my dad had retrofitted this van and he was not a guy that really built things, but he had retrofitted this van and he was not a guy that really built things. Um, but he had retrofitted it so the seat, you can pull it out into a bed.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And then there was also a table. I mean, this, this van was used. My mom primarily drove it unless we were on a family road trip and it was her car, but she lugged around soccer teams and baseball teams and every kid I ever knew for decades, it seemed like. And everybody, all my friends that I know still from that time talk about that van and they remember it very well. Sounds like your mom was the canary in the coal mine for every parent driving their kids around.
Starting point is 00:32:05 She was. You know what I remember on those road trips is doing like the slug bug game and being on the pound on my sister. I remember every truck doing this. I mean that was the... Yeah. We would hit, dad would hit the roof of the car every time there was a car missing a headlight. A pediddle.
Starting point is 00:32:22 A pediddle. A pediddle? Yeah. What happened then? just you just know you would just see what you just say Puddle and you'd hit the roof. Yeah, so that was a game that you all played. Yeah, you I realize It's just like OCD basically Way to keep your kids quiet. Yeah, it's right. You'll there they're looking right trying to beat dad. My one truly vivid memory, and if you asked my mom or if my dad had passed away and you asked him, what do you remember from any road trip we ever went on? And I'll never forget it because I was probably 10
Starting point is 00:33:03 or 11 years old. There was a construction crew out on the five, and I remember it was just before the grapevine. I don't know why I remember that, and you know what the grapevine was, but it was right because we were really close to LA, and I remember that bit. And there was a, it was probably 77, 78, construction crew, a lady out there with a safety vest on, but it was kind of the fishnet safety vest, nothing underneath.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And it was my first look, and my mom's like, close your eyes, and my dad even had a big grin on his face. He was like, oh! That's the, close your eyes. And my dad even had a big grin on his face. He was like, oh. And I just had my face pressed against that glass. I'm like, slow it down, Pop. And I think he slowed it down. I'll never forget it as long as I live. I just want to screw Disneyland.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Let's just do a U-turn and just do that. You know, there's a myriad of problems with how easily pornography can be accessed by young kids these days, right? Like, but I think one of the biggest ones is it like robs you of that being the first time you see a naked woman's body. It's like, you had to like, the amount of things
Starting point is 00:34:21 that had to break right for you, you had to be on a road trip right when that lady was in the road. It was the sun, the clouds opened up like the amount of things that had to break right for you, you had to be on a road trip, right when that lady was in the road. It was the sun, the clouds opened up and someone touched you, just for a moment. Just for a moment, they're like, hey. But they're like, I know,
Starting point is 00:34:35 your thighs are sticking to that polyester sheet. You need a break. It didn't matter that moment, I was like, I'm sticking, I'm not moving. You leapt out of the seat, didn't matter. Oh. I was like, I'm sticking. I'm not moving. You leapt out of the seat. Didn't matter. Oh man, you try to jump up and your butt would just stick to the seat
Starting point is 00:34:51 and the seat would move like six inches. But God, I remember that like it was yesterday. I still remember. It's also so funny to realize like for everything a parent can put into a road trip and all the planning and we're gonna see the giant ball of yarn, and we're gonna go to Disney World, and it's like, what was the best part?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah, you remember that lady with the poof? Oh, the poof. And your dad's gotta pretend like, oh, I don't remember that part. Well, you know, almost 50 years later, what do I remember? I remember those poofs, man. Can we go back and see that again next year?
Starting point is 00:35:21 It's like, what do you guys wanna do for spring break? You think that lady's still here? Yeah, if she was, I would have been, I think my dad would have been like up for it. He didn't like the road trip aspect, but I probably could have done that driving. How, you, yeah, so your kids have even a bigger gap than you and your sister.
Starting point is 00:35:39 How are they? Do they get along? They do. I think that it was a happy accident. We had tried to have kids much closer together and Asian just couldn't. It just wasn't meant to be. And then about the time we gave up, it stuck and we have George. But they are, she's seven, he's 15.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So they're eight years apart. And it's just enough where he, he's still, you know, she gets on his nerves occasionally, but he's such a good brother with her. I think she's kind of a novelty also for him and his friends because she's very, how do I say this? She's very unfiltered. You know, COVID and spending too much time with her father changed her DNA forever. She talks a little bit like I do. I don't know how she holds it together at school. I always expect to get a call from a teacher saying, you know, she threw out MF today.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Oh yeah. But she doesn't. She just saves that for, you know, home. Oh man. What a doll. Yeah, but she doesn't. She just saves that for home. Oh, man. What a doll. Yeah, but they get along remarkably well. Yeah, it's weird. I bet like two years is probably,
Starting point is 00:36:55 I'm gonna say like ideal. And then like there's probably a middle where it's actually gets a little weird and then like it probably picks up again, maybe at that point. How far apart are you guys? We're two years. Two.
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Starting point is 00:41:22 George, yeah, I keep double clutching and being like, wait. Yeah, yeah, it's weird. Okay, that's name? George. George, yeah. I keep double clutching and being like, wait. Yeah, yeah, it's weird. Okay, that's a great name. George Virginia Morgan. Okay. We named Gus after Augustus McCray. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:34 From Lonesome Dove. Lonesome Dove. By the way, Lonesome Dove, shout out to Lonesome Dove, which I had seen the old, the first I saw the miniseries. Yeah. Yeah. And then during the pandemic saw the mini series. Yeah. Yeah. And then during the pandemic, I read it. And I remember picking it up and thinking like,
Starting point is 00:41:49 oh, am I gonna really start a 780 page book? Maybe read it in three days? It's an excellent. It's amazing. My wife's reading it right now. It's so good. Yeah. And it just ended up a happy accident that while we were in Santa Fe,
Starting point is 00:42:06 I think Hillary and I were pregnant within a month of knowing each other. So I mean the fact 16 years later. Well once you heard she also wanted a farm, you're like I gotta put a baby in her. Yeah, I was all in. I'm in showbiz, I don't know when I'm gonna meet my next farm lady. Well and she is too. I just, it was just. Yeah, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:42:23 The fact that it worked out as well as it had is still surprising to me. We still look at each other like, wow. Yeah. That shit worked. But we, I remember in Santa Fe watching Loan Sido. She's like, oh man, this is one of my favorite shows. And we had just found out she was pregnant.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And we just kind of knew. And then with George, we could not settle on a name and I remember, you know, I began being a 70s kid, my favorite show back then was Bonanza and there was an episode called a girl named George. And I threw it out. We were messing around here at the farm and just like doing chores or whatever. And we were throwing out baby names and I'm like thinking she's never gonna go for this, but I'll throw it out.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I'm like, what about George? And that was it. She was like, that's it. That's great. Does George appreciate that she has a unique name? She loves her name. That's great. I mean, it does sound, the way you, it's weird the way you've described her.
Starting point is 00:43:22 It's almost like sometimes you wish you could give your kids a name when they were seven. Yeah. But it seems like you guys, I don't know, you nailed it without knowing. Nailed it. Nailed it. She is a perfect George.
Starting point is 00:43:35 They're like, you know George? I'm like, which one's that? She's the one that bulls like who's always saying Motherfucker? Yeah. Yeah. She is the funniest kid I've ever met in my life. And again, I think a lot of it has to do with being a COVID kid and spending.
Starting point is 00:43:51 So both of my kids are much more comfortable hanging out with adults than they are children. Right. Gus, Gus will go hang out at events with all like the moms. Right. You know, it's just, yeah, it's awesome. So yeah, I think we lucked out. Both of them are great. They're renouncing.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Augustus is getting to the age now where he occasionally is like, you know, introduces himself and he'll say it's Augustus Dean. I just, and I'm like, oh shit. We took him, I just, we had a show premiere for the show I do in Cannes, like two weeks ago. And we- This is Destination X? No, this is The Zombie Thing. Okay, great. Walking Dead.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah. Please tell me you know the name of it. After 10 years. For you to call The Walking Dead the zombie thing is beyond, yeah. You know, it's, look, everybody agrees it's a bad name, nobody can remember it. You know, it's a zombie thing. Well, you know, who knows? You guys might not watch it, so I just say zombie thing and then you're like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:59 that thing. So it premiered this year at Cannes Series, and so I took the family because it's hard for us to leave our kids. I don't know about you guys, but it's just hard. And also if it's a cool place and you think they're going to enjoy it, why not? Yeah, and Gus is very interested and he's a very good actor, unfortunately. He does a lot of theater and he constantly amazes me, which is another reason why we have to be at a school that
Starting point is 00:45:25 is offering that kind of opportunity. But he's now six feet tall and he steals all my clothes. He's wearing my suits at Cannes. I took him to the premiere and I got my hands put in the cement, the Walk of Fame there, which was cool. And I was like, you know, this may never happen at any other time in my life. And you guys should come. And they were like, sure.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Um, but I thought that Gus was going to walk out of there with like a three picture deal. He was, he's such a good looking, like cool dude, um, that it's just, it's stupid. And, uh, I don't remember why we even brought that, how we got to that, but I had somewhere I was going with it. Had you been to Cannes before? I had, by myself, I'd never brought the clan with me. And then I was in Nice last year with Destination X.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Okay, gotcha. And so, and get this, this is just excellent timing. I'm a big F1 guy. Alright. And so this weekend is Monaco and for Christmas my wife got me tickets and all the stuff to the Grand Prix there. Bringing everybody out. Gus and I will go to the car race even though it's George that watches the car races
Starting point is 00:46:45 with me generally. And so we're going to Monaco, staying in Nice, and then going to the F1 thing, and then we're taking the kids to... We should have done this podcast in like a week, because I'll have some stories. And then we're taking a train from Nice to Paris because both the kids want to see Paris.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I don't know what they think they're going to see. I already can hear George like, can we just go back to the hotel? I know, but you know, you ultimately, you can't deny it. If your kids actually want to see a city like Paris, you got to be like, great, before they change their mind. Let's do it. And Gus is all in, like he's already, he's got all of his like, you know, France books out
Starting point is 00:47:29 where the places he wants to go. Like I'd be happy to stay in Nice at the beach for a week, but nope, we're gonna get on a train and go to Paris and do all the Paris stuff. It's gonna be great. And we've never really gone anywhere like cool as a family. Because it's always, you know, it's always work. We just never, whenever I'm off, the kids are in the middle of school. Yeah, that's just how it's worked out. So summers I'm always
Starting point is 00:47:59 gone so I can never like get away then. And then the minute I get off and I'm home for two months, it's the middle of the school year. And so we just never have done anything. So this is a really big deal. Where, I apologize for not quite remembering, but how many seasons in were you introduced in The Walking Dead? Because it wasn't the first season, right?
Starting point is 00:48:19 No, I, okay, this is gonna, because it kills me. I've been there for 10 years. I've been on this show for 10 years. I came in in season six. Wow. That's really something. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 00:48:32 I mean, first of all, it's crazy in this day and age, right? Nothing lasts. Nothing. And so to be a part of a thing that both has endured and then has, you know, spinoffs that are in multiple seasons, it's very cool. It's always great when Seth talks about nothing lasting and he had one job on SNL.
Starting point is 00:48:48 How long were you there for, Seth? I was there for 12 and a half years and then I had a second job. And then how long have you had your show? 11 years. You've had some pretty good gigs. All those jobs, I gotta say, you're Gavin Newsom is one of my favorite characters on television right now.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It is really exceptional. Oh my God. I mean, character. The first time I saw it, I thought it of the favorite characters on television right now. It is really exceptional. Oh my God. I mean, character. The first time I saw it, I thought it was fucking Gavin Newsom. Well, when Josh goes out and shoots, that's an issue as well. Yeah, I do get people double clutching. If I wear a suit somewhere, it's like their eyes that are coming to me and I know they're not coming for me.
Starting point is 00:49:19 They're coming because they think I'm Gavin Newsom. It's so good. Yeah. Between that and, you know and you're up close. And so I get my news from Daily Show and A Closer Look. Thank you, buddy. That's where I get my news from these days. I can't stand to watch anything.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I was just saying to somebody last night, like I feel like 10 years ago, people would be like, I can get my news from you. I'm like, don't get your news from me. And now I'm like, yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Like I don't mind. It's too awful, just listen to me.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Well, I just need the highlights. Yeah, just the highlights with some jokes. And it's perfect, because otherwise I would just be too overwhelmed. We're in a highlight era. So this is actually, I mean, we rarely have a guest who's got a show coming that is so tied to family trips, although,
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah. Destination X is not, X is not a normal trip. No. But this was a Belgian show. It was a Belgium show, and it won all these crazy awards as being like the coolest reality show ever in Belgium. And so they had sent me the Belgian version, which didn't really help me because I don't
Starting point is 00:50:28 speak Belgium. But I could see the idea was very interesting and fun. And I'd also never hosted a show or done anything like this. And really it was my wife who kind of comes from that world as being like, you know a VJ on MTV 30 years ago and and and you know Doing that that she was like, you know what? You're not getting younger, which is very true
Starting point is 00:51:01 I can't continue to kill zombies forever hurts very true. I can't continue to kill zombies forever. It hurts. I'm sick of being sore. And she's like, you know, because I had just finished the season of Dead City and I was like, I need to be home. I'm exhausted. This offer came in to do this reality show. And I was like, Oh man, I remember telling NBC, I had a meeting with NBC so they could kind of pitch the thing to me and I'm like, you know, I'm not, I'm not Chris Hardwick. I'm unpredictable and I'm the last thing I think that NBC, nothing against NBC, but I'm the last thing you guys are going to want.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I'm a loose cannon And they convinced me no no, this is that we want you to be you and I was like wow you're stepping in it But okay Let's let's try and and and I really it took getting used to kind of doing this the show But the idea was so cool I took getting used to kind of doing this show, but the idea was so cool. So people go there, they basically are, they go on a road trip, they don't know where.
Starting point is 00:52:11 They don't know where. They're in Europe, we travel all over Europe. They are in a bus. No, it's a well-appointed kind of rock star bus. Camera's everywhere, hidden everywhere. But no windows. And they blacken the windows. I shouldn't say they're blackened. They are frosted so you can't see out of them, but obscured. You can see light. And so you realize very quickly that the smarter players are watching the
Starting point is 00:52:41 sun and trying to figure out which direction we're going and all this. And so I will travel ahead and meet them at challenges and then I do like the eliminations. And so I traveled Europe a little bit differently than they did. Thank God. Because I couldn't have done it. But you were like when they complained, you're like, you ever take a camper from Seattle to Disneyland? That's exactly right. I could, unless you saw boobs, forget it. But I would get, I could check in,
Starting point is 00:53:15 I could do a live feed check in when I was, you know, bored. I could do a live feed check in and then I'd get, you know, a printout of everything that took place on the bus that day. All the personal crazy stuff that happens. It's like big brother house only it's the size of this trailer with 10 people. And so it's insanity. And then we would do challenges and NBC luckily luckily, would just kind of prod me to...
Starting point is 00:53:47 Oh... Be an asshole. You know, I guess... Yeah, kind of torture them a little bit and enjoy it. And I did. And it was really fun. And then I just finished doing kind of the voiceover stuff for all the episodes. Just finished like last week.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And so I'd seen all the episodes now and it's, it's a really fun show. They have to, they have to figure out where they are. Okay. So the point of the show, yeah, I probably should throw you that at least. So it's destination X. A destination and X is sort of a question mark. That's it. So, so at the end of every day, their job after doing like a challenge and
Starting point is 00:54:27 getting some clues and they can share the clues or not, they have to go into this called the map room that's on the bus and they put their ex where they think we are. And then the person, the first person that is furthest away from where we are, I throw them out. They're done, bye. Great. Walk home. Such a fun novel idea. It's really, like I wasn't sure, I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:54:53 I'm also not a guy that's real hip on the reality show stuff. I just don't watch it. It's almost for the best. I feel like then you make it your own. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just the fact they kind of let me sort of have fun with it, I thought was really cool.
Starting point is 00:55:11 And at the same time, it was a NBC, BBC kind of team up production. And so the second I finished, Brits did a version of as well. And so we're kind of tag teaming and all that. That's exciting. Yeah. Well, I take it back, Posh.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I've often said nothing good has ever come out of Belgium. And other than Tin Tin. Right. Tin Tin. I mean, we Tin. I didn't know Tin Tin came out of there. We lived in Amsterdam for a few years, Jeffrey, and they created Big Brother, was a Dutch creation.
Starting point is 00:55:50 So all those good shows come out of there. I love Amsterdam. We were in Amsterdam, as a matter of fact. Why did you guys live there? And how cool is that? It was a comedy theater, an improv comedy theater that we both got hired out of college to go work for. No shit.
Starting point is 00:56:06 So you didn't do Second City, you did Amsterdam. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did Boom Chicago. Second City's amazing, but doing Second City of Amsterdam has a lot more. Did you guys ride bikes? Yeah. Everywhere, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah, everywhere. I love it, because I almost got killed there being run over by bikes, but it's a special city. I'm about, I've talked killed there being run over by bikes, but I it's a it's a special city I'm about I've talked about this a lot of the pocket, but I'm about to bring my Nine year old and he's very excited about the bikes But I'm like it's like not the bikes you think you know what I mean like when everybody's on a bike And it's like commuters. Yeah, but I also he's so clumsy
Starting point is 00:56:44 I feel like growing up in New York right now, you're already pretty, you know, you got the peripheral on the bike riders. He's got his head on a swivel, but he just sometimes, he just kind of sometimes is in outer space, but hopefully he'll be. That's my kids too.
Starting point is 00:56:56 They're not the athletic type, but they can fall down anywhere. I can't believe how often I just walk in and I'm like, all right, get dressed. And he's sitting in a chair. And then I like come back 10 minutes later and it's like one pant leg is in. Yeah. But like, what have you been doing?
Starting point is 00:57:10 He's like, I don't know. Yeah, that's my, that's George. George is the same way. Unless she is really motivated to do something her way. That's, I can't tell you how many times I tell both kids still to brush their teeth. I'm like, it's been years. Also, it's so gross when you haven't brushed your teeth.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Like your mouth is gross. It's so gross. It's just like, it feels better. Yeah. Well, and they're, you know, when you already have cavities as like a seven year old, I'm like, get it together, man. Yeah, that's a girl named George for you. She's like, dad, this isn't gonna be my last sentence here.
Starting point is 00:57:47 She's got a frigging silver tooth already. She's like a pirate, man. The sun reflects off her mouth when she smiles, blinds the cow. She thinks it's cool. She's like, whatever. She's not wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:59 When you went to Cannes. Right now, she's floppy. Yeah, go ahead. When you went to Cannes, did you have, was there any time to go do family stuff and explore or was it pretty much all business? I just worked the entire time. That festival life is not actually fun.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, yeah, I mean, we also knew that we were coming back in like a couple of weeks to actually have some family time. I mean, George, of course, if she sees sees anything that's wet she wants to jump in it So there was a pool So her inhale but also at that time I can you can't leave the fucking hotel because there's paparazzi and fans Yeah, at least that's my experience That's my experience. She's like, Seth, you'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:58:50 One night we walked down like whatever, I guess the main street of Ken is our last night there. And it's just like restaurants with people eating outside and then one whole block of gelato stands or gelato not stands, they're storefronts. But like 10 of them it like On the same street. I'm like what must the competition be here? You know, yeah, who's got the coolest sandwich board and free samples and so I we just kind of hung out there and got free samples for a while and then we were like we're like, alright, we're gonna buy one and
Starting point is 00:59:23 I never felt like such a loser in my life because of course they knew who we were. And then they wouldn't take American Express and I didn't have any euros with me. And so the next morning, it was like 11 o'clock at night. And so we were leaving the next day. So my wife gets up at eight, exchanges like a hundred dollars with the hotel,
Starting point is 00:59:45 runs to the gelato stand, you know, a half mile away, pays them in cash. I'm like, just give them all of it. But they were like, just go away here. Yeah, no, but you don't want, you don't want to worry getting out in France that Jeffrey Dean Morgan's the sample guy. Yeah, the sample guy, or the guy that gets ice cream for his whole family and then doesn't pay. Did you guys ever used to go into Seattle as a kid? Yeah, I went there a lot. I remember taking the bus in as just a little guy.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I was a big basketball and football fan as a kid. And this is like, I remember in 79, the Sonics won the world championship and I was like, you know, what 12 I was born in 66 13, something like that. Um, and I remember taking the bus across the, uh, by myself, it's something you'd never allow a kid to do now. It was an hour bus ride into the big city and I'd go there at night to get like players autographs after games. We would sneak into the kingdom. The Sonics actually played in the kingdom, which is a football stadium for two years and we could sneak in and watch games for free. And so I used to go into town a lot and then I lived downtown through, I graduated 84, so like 85 through 90, I lived right by
Starting point is 01:01:10 Pike Place Market and had like 100 jobs in Pike Place Market that I would have for like three days. And I worked at the very first Starbucks and that lasted like a minute. I worked at restaurants that lasted, I worked at a hat store. I worked at a shoe store. And I worked with, it was just me. John Fluvogs, I don't know if you're familiar with John Fluvogs, but they sold the Beetle Boots and all the hip creepers, stuff like that,
Starting point is 01:01:39 that were cool in the 80s. And it was me and this woman working there called Susan Silver, named Susan Silver, and she married Chris Cornell and became a musician. Oh, wow. I was gonna ask, if you get out at 90, was there a sense of what the music scene was about to be? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Well, I mean, I knew all, it was a very kind of small community of artists, and my best friend, a guy named Billy Burke, who is an actor actually now, was a musician, but he's been on like Fire Country for the last few years. And he was a musician and kind of before grunge exploded, he was the guy that all these bands would open for. And he was the only guy that didn't get a record deal in Seattle at that time.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Grunge exploded. He was doing kind of his own thing, which wasn't grunge. And so all the bands that opened for him, you know, the Mother Love Bones, the Sound Garden, this, you know, Nirvana was, you know, up north a little bit. But they all got signed at the same time. And so he was like, well, fuck this. I guess I'm going to try to be an actor. And I was like, I'll try to be an actor.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. And we moved. We drove down to LA. There was a road trip. Drove down to LA and then that was a road trip. We drove down to LA and Billy had a, a hearst. You heard that right. And that was his car.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And we drove a hearse from Seattle to LA, moved to LA and decided we'd be actors. Fantastic. Yeah. I can't believe it worked out so well based on what a bad omen that probably looked like. He had a- Would one person drive
Starting point is 01:03:19 and the other one would just sleep in the coffin in the back? Yeah, but see, before that, when he was a musician, you'd carry all the band equipment in the coffin in the back. Yeah, but see before that, you know, when he was a musician, you'd carry all the band equipment in the back because I was kind of his roadie. And so it was super cool to pull up at a club in Seattle in the hearst and unload your fucking music equipment, your drum kits and shit.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I'm sure like most second uses for hearse's are probably bands. I didn't know you could buy those. I remember at the time you came home with it. We were roommates. I'm like, what the fuck is that? How did you manage this little thing? And it was weird, but whatever. This has been such a delight and I'm so happy you did it from the air stream. Thank you for having me. Yeah. But before you go, Josh is going to speed around you real quick, Jeffrey. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:14 All right, some quick questions. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Relaxing. Great. What is your favorite means of transportation? The quickest. Private air, private air place. You know what? You've earned that with your life on the farm.
Starting point is 01:04:31 I'm gonna get shit for saying that. No, wait, wait, wait. You got dirt under your fingernails. You want to do it. Yeah, yeah. I've worked hard for it. This one gets a little trickier. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh my God. The Walton's.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Great. Yeah. Lovely, very wholesome. Yeah, John Boy. I do have terrible news. They don't fly private. No, they're in a fucking wagon with horses. I think maybe actually in the later seasons they did,
Starting point is 01:05:03 and that's what they said, the Walton's. Maybe, I feel like John Boy's flying private. They'd maybe actually in the later seasons they did and that's what they said the Waltons. I feel like John Boy's flying private. They were like, it's not the same show anymore. No, it's not. It's not. Or Partridge Family would be my second. That's probably fuller.
Starting point is 01:05:14 You were worried the Waltons didn't date you enough. It was. I mean, I could have gone Cartwrights. Or the Osmonds. I could have gone, but for some reason, the Waltons popped in. There you go. All right, guys.
Starting point is 01:05:26 If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? George. Yeah. All right. You are from Kirkland, Washington. Would you recommend Kirkland as a vacation destination? It's a really, I haven't been there in a bit, but it's a really cute little town,
Starting point is 01:05:47 but it's not that little anymore. After Microsoft, they kind of moved to that side of, it's really crowded, but it's a great, it used to be a really kind of small town, and now it's not. It's a great place to visit. I don't know that I'd vacation there. Sure, but maybe worth a stop, worth a night or two. It's a great place to visit. I don't know that vacation there. Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:05 But maybe worth a stop, worth a night or two. Yeah, swing by. It's right on the lake. So it's very pretty and- Oh, great. It's completely different from when I grew up there. And then Seth has our final questions. Jeffrey, have you been to the Grand Canyon?
Starting point is 01:06:20 No. Oh, do you wanna go? Yeah. Yeah, I thought you did. All right. Yeah, thank you. I'm surprised you haven go? Yeah. Yeah, I thought you did. All right. Yeah, thank you. I'm surprised you haven't been. I am too.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Because I've ridden motorcycles and stuff across the country and have always said, oh, we're gonna go to Grand Canyon. And then we never do. I would have put all my money on that you've been. I would have too. I'm kind of taking it back. I don't even know what to do with this.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I'm sorry, I apologize. I let myself down there also. I feel like right at the end, I'm like, I don't think he's who he said he was. I feel like a fraud myself. Well like right at the end, I'm like, I don't think he's who he said he was. I feel like a fraud myself. Well, you should go because, I mean, little secret you let us in on, but you're not getting any younger, so.
Starting point is 01:06:52 No, thank you, yes. It's not me when he's quoting it back to you. It's not me when he's quoting it back. I guess it's actually your wife's quote. A little bit dicky, little bit dicky. Little bit dicky right there. Way to end the interview on a good note. Yeah, well the contestants on Project X told us
Starting point is 01:07:09 you were a little bit of a dick, so. Yeah, well, I got paid for that. Great to see you, Jeffrey. Thank you for the time. So good to see you. What a delight. You guys are awesome. Have a great trip with your family and friends. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Thank you. I'll have stories for you next time we talk. All right, great. Return guest, we'll take it. All right. Thank you guys. I'll have stories for you next time we talk. All right, great. Return guest. We'll take it. All right. Thank you guys. I love you both. Thank you. Thanks. Bye-bye. All right. Bye. When the young Jeffrey Dean took a trip as a pre-teen,
Starting point is 01:07:55 Disneyland was alright, but it wasn't the highlight Vinyl seats sticking to Woman on air construction crew Casually waved them through Jeffrey Dean saw her boobs Fishnet vest Saw some breasts It was the frickin' vest Fishnet vest
Starting point is 01:08:35 Saw some breasts Saw some breasts Column breasts Column boobs Call them breasts, call them boobs His father lied to two to that crew A thank you, a big thank you A fishnet vest was the best Saw some breasts A fish that breast Oh hell yes His first breast A father chest
Starting point is 01:09:12 He was blessed She possessed Everybody expressed They were the best Some perfect breasts The greatest breasts A father chest He was blessed They were the best, they were the best Some perfect friends The greatest friends upon her chest
Starting point is 01:09:30 It was the best Never addressed, never addressed But they were the best

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