Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JESSICA KIRSON Crashed Pandemic Zoom Parties!
Episode Date: June 24, 2025Jessica Kirson joins Seth and Josh on the podcast this week! She talks all about what it was like growing up in a blended family, having support from her parents with her comedy career, the ransacked ...home they returned from vacation to find, the Zoom comedy shows she put on, life with daughters, and so much more! Plus, she also talks about her Hulu "I'm the Man" special! Delete MeGet 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/ TRIPS and use promo code TRIPS at checkout. BluelandBlueland has a special offer for listeners. Right now, get 15% off your first order by going to Blueland.com/tripsFitbodJoin Fitbod today to get your personalized workout plan.Get 25% off your subscription or try the app FREE for seven days at Fitbod.me/TRIP. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hi, Bashi.
Hi, Sufi.
You know, we talked a little bit about your bad travel.
I had a bad travel day.
We were going to New Mexico.
Not easy to get to New Mexico from New York City.
And we flew through Dallas.
And one of these things, I'm a little bit surprised the airline even booked the connection
because it was the same airline.
And it was only about like 45 minutes between flights.
And again, if you're flying out of New York City,
a lot of times, to no fault of anyone,
it's just gonna be like a 20 minute delay.
And now all of a sudden, like basically the gates closed.
So sure enough, we land.
I don't wanna shame people,
but they did everything they could on this flight.
The flight attendants kept making an announcement,
which is a lot of people have connections.
If you are not trying to make a connection,
wait for other people to get off.
And the minute-
I'm happy to wait.
If I need to-
Happy to wait.
The minute the bell hit, literally everybody got up.
There were maybe four people who were,
as we tried to wiggle our way down the aisle, literally everybody got up. There were maybe four people who were, as we like tried to like, you know,
wiggle our way down the aisle, stayed in their seats.
Let me just say those four people, you are heroes.
Yeah.
And I appreciate your sacrifice.
Although it wasn't really sacrifice
because you were just going to go wait at the gate.
So, and then, but then the other thing is we like run
full speed to our gate and we get there
and there's just a woman at the desk and she's already moved on.
You know what I mean?
Like she's not even thinking about that flight anymore.
Yeah, she's got another flight to deal with.
She's got another flight to do.
And you know, at some point there are just rules in place and the rule is the clock and
once the clock goes and she's like, the gate is closed.
And then I don't even know why I asked this.
I'm part of the problem too.
I go, how much did we miss it by?
And she's like, six minutes.
And then I had run ahead to get there first.
Okay.
You know, to try to, cause again,
if the door was open to be like,
they're right there, look, they're coming.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done that.
I've done that before.
So, and then everybody else shows up
and Alexi and Ariel are like,
what happened? And I'm like, it's closed. And they're like, how long ago?
And this is why I'm glad I'd asked because now I got it right.
You know, I'm like, seven minutes, you know?
Yeah.
And then they, of course, have to go try to convince the world.
You know what I mean? And I'm like, it's over.
Mackenzie's always trying to convince agents to break the rules that are like, it's over. Mackenzie's always trying to convince I'm like, it's over. agents to break the rules that are like,
I feel like, you know, federal mandatory rules.
And I, you know, also, by the way,
I'll accept a no right away.
So I think Alexi is, Alexi's argument is like,
you're too, you accept bad news too easily.
And so I don't blame her for giving it an extra effort,
but I was like, I'm going, bye.
She's like, where are you going?
I'm like, I'm gonna go rebook, goodbye,
because we're not getting on that flight.
And I'm like, if you get on it, I'll see you there.
But anyway, we,
Alexi and Addy, which was good news,
because I think Addy was going to have the hardest time
in the airport.
They got on the next flight, but we had to wait,
we had to wait in the Dallas airport like four hours.
But for whatever reason, the boys just got in a groove,
where they're like, we want to read our books.
And I was like, great.
And then I was like, perfect, I'm going to read a book.
And to be honest, the three of us sitting in chairs
at an airport where like everybody was reading,
I'm like, this is, I wanna bottle this and sell it.
Yeah, you could duplicate that in your living room.
Yeah, that's true.
I think they don't, but that's the thing though.
They need to be somewhere where there's like no,
like none of their other shits there.
Right.
You know?
So I think we could, I think what we're gonna do is
we're gonna, I'm gonna tell them we're do is we're going to, I'm going to
tell them we're going somewhere.
I'm never, I'm not even going to buy plane tickets.
Yeah.
But I'll take them to the airport and then tell them, because they don't know how to read
the ETA board.
So I'll just be like, our flight's delayed.
And then we'll just read for four hours.
Then I'll be like, now it's canceled.
Yeah.
We have to go home.
So how much later were you there than Alexi and Addie?
Like five hours, but no complaints.
We rolled in, you know, Alexi and her parents
had dinner ready and it was totally fine.
So, you know, it was not the worst disaster.
And yeah, sometimes, you know,
sometimes it doesn't break your way.
Yeah.
Travel wise.
I mean, you have to let go.
You have to let go.
You have to not, it's like being mad at traffic.
Like to what end?
Yeah.
I will also say in my, you know that thing about
don't be the first one up if other people
are trying to get out.
I was very good in the sort of era of my life where no one was depending on me,
no one needed me to be anywhere. Like I never like rushed to get on like the first shuttle
bus back to baggage claim. I was always like, yeah, you guys, you know, anytime there were
people with kids, I'm like, you go. I'm good. I got, I literally know where to be.
Yeah. I think that a lot of times I'm like not ready
even to get out of my aisle on a plane
and people are ripping their bags down from the overheads.
And I'll let a couple of aisles behind me just go.
And then there's gonna be a gap where somebody gets held up.
And I'll be like, I'm gonna take that window.
But I'm not gonna-
I will sit and I'll let everybody get off,
but I will make a big show about how cool I'm being.
I'm like, not pretty nice.
Look at this dude.
Yeah.
He's letting you go.
All right.
We've got a great conversation with Jessica Kirsten.
We're excited for you to hear it.
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Here we go! Hi! Hello! How are you? We're good. We're wonderful.
How are you?
You're just framed.
You're just framed in blue light.
It is just an incredible light.
I know.
I think that's what you're supposed to do.
I don't know.
Who cares?
Yeah.
It is.
I mean, I bought this dumb backdrop and everyone says it just looks like I'm in a void.
You look like you're living an actual life.
Yeah.
Like you're a human being.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You look like you're living a life of a human being.
Yeah.
You look like you're living a life of a human being.
Yeah. You look like you're living a life of a human in a void. You look like you're living an actual life.
Yeah, you're a human being.
Yeah, you look like you're in a cave.
Yeah, I'm in my dining room.
I don't know why I don't just show my dining room.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm sure it's beautiful.
I did Zoom shows in my walk-in closet the entire time
with backdrop, like a blanket behind me.
It was hilarious.
Comedy shows?
Yeah.
So how were you, I mean, I think I did one or two,
but they were like almost like charity gigs.
Were you actually doing gig gigs,
like during the pandemic?
Yeah, cause like I had to make money
and I was gonna go out of my mind if I didn't do it.
So how, who, how was it working?
Did you sort of have the initiative
to figure out how to do it,
or did someone come to you and say,
hey, we're doing these Zoom shows?
I did my own Zoom show with Rachel Feinstein every week,
who's my best friend.
Yes, of course.
And we invited people on,
and they would just,
and like all these random friends showed up,
like Gilbert Gottfried always came on with these kids,
and like Amy Schumer.
It was hilarious. And people would donate money.
And we were just because I ended up on like support from the government, you know, as the breadwinner and all this.
It was crazy. After like doing so well in my career, it was like...
Do you think you came out of it better at comedy?
Do you think it was a helpful thing? Okay.
Thank you very much.
I mean, I think it helped me keep the muscle going
and stuff, but I'm so interactive with the crowd.
So I was doing crowd work on people in these boxes.
It was actually really funny.
I ended up dressing up as an old Jewish woman
and I Zoom bombed people.
Oh, great.
Yeah, I did it for Passover and all these other things
where people hire me.
And I'd be on and be like, where's Joshua?
Like, just look in the screen.
Is this in my family?
And I have video of it. It's hysterical.
People like let me stay in their Passover Zoom.
Because I look like an old woman that was lost.
Yeah.
It was amazing.
Did you, do you remember your first gig out of the pandemic where you were in front of
live audiences again?
Well, I did one with David Tell and it was behind a plastic screen outside at Governor
Trump.
Yeah, great.
I did one on a car where people would honk if they were laughing.
I mean, it's really nice.
I've seen some video of people doing that.
But didn't, I mean, I remember I was in a parking lot the first time I did stand up
out of the pandemic and I remember, they were so, I didn't realize at the time, the audience
was so hot because they would have been hot for anything.
Right.
That I walked off and I was like, I might have figured this out.
Yeah.
I mean, I was killing.
Yes.
I got out of the pandemic.
It was like ripping the room apart with new material.
Yeah.
People were just dying to get out.
They were dying to get out.
And then it was not about me.
It was about just out.
Right, exactly.
They could have been seeing someone
who's never done it before.
Or just sitting in a parking lot
with other people and no show.
It's like chairs in a parking lot side are pretty rad.
So you grew up in New Jersey?
I did.
I grew up in South Orange, New Jersey.
How far outside the city is that?
It's close.
It's like, I don't know, a half hour drive, but yeah.
Did you come into the city a lot as a kid?
Oh my God, yeah.
I was always in the city.
And then when I was a teenager, I always came in to go to like Canal Street
and all those places and get a fake ID and pot.
Yeah. That's great.
Were those the fake IDs where you would sit
in front of a large sort of license
and they would take your picture?
So it all be, yeah.
It's amazing those worked.
I mean, I would get in places with these horrible ideas.
Yeah.
Do you think that maybe the people working in the door didn't care that much?
Do you think that was part of the issues theater?
I don't think they cared at all.
Yeah, I mean, you were coming in.
That helps.
Yeah, it's like I'm six years old, like, I want to come in and dance.
Did your parents bring you into the city for cultural stuff?
Was that a part of your upbringing?
Yeah, yeah.
I always went in the city for like shows.
My grandmother would take my sister and I
to Broadway shows all the time and just fall asleep.
It was amazing.
Just, but she always did that with us.
But yeah, I did a lot of stuff in the city,
which is great.
When you started going on your own,
were your parents like wary of the fact
that you were a teenager going to hang out in New York City
or because they are grew up so close to it,
they were like, ah, she knows her way around.
I think they weren't really concerned.
My mom was like flighty and all over the place.
There's a lot to that story,
but she's like a therapist who was always working.
And so she was like, whatever, go.
And yeah, they didn't really care if I died, you know?
Therapist who worked out of the house, correct?
Yes, in the basement.
What a trip.
Was there, you know, therapists sort of famously have like, there's a door that you come in and then there's another one that you exit through.
Was there sort of that like garage step ladder down or did you see everyone coming in that needed therapy?
It's such an incredible story of what I grew up with because my mom, there were no cell phones or, you know,
I feel like I'm 90, like there were no cell phones, you know.
But there wasn't.
And she would book all these clients.
I know this is going to sound crazy,
but she wouldn't keep a record of it.
So they would just show up to the house,
and I was like her secretary.
And I would like bring them into the den
and be like, she'll be here soon.
Like I had no idea what was going on and she would forget.
So sometimes they would sit there for hours
and just wait for her.
And I'd be like, do you want something to drink?
Can I?
So sometimes it was like a group session.
Like there'd be like four people waiting in the den for,
yeah.
And there was a lot of things that happened because of that.
My house was like a sitcom.
It was unbelievable.
At what age did you appreciate that it was funny instead of strange?
I still don't think it's funny.
I'm very damaged from it, to be honest.
Would people ever come in that you knew, like parents of your friends or, you know, coaches
or teachers or?
No, that's a great question.
She was so private about it that I don't even know if someone's parents, you know, like
maybe from my school or something.
But it was so insane because she would bring them down to the basement.
And I had no way of reaching her.
So I could have been like dying in the attic where I lived.
And she would just, I couldn't interrupt her.
But I mean, I use this in my act, but she always told me to be quiet.
I can hear you walking around, you need to stop flushing the toilet.
Susan's having a really hard time.
I'm like, well, I just ate six pizzas
and beheaded my Barbies, but good luck to Susan.
Like we were a mess.
But it was a lot to have these clients
in the house the whole time.
It was like a mental institution.
Yeah.
So if your grandmother took you into the city,
she was local then?
Yeah, she lived in New York City
and my grandmother lived in Jersey all year
and then in Florida, of course, in the winter.
Of course.
Did you go a lot to Florida?
Was that a part of your upbringing?
Yes.
Taking trips, okay.
And was that a trip you were excited for?
Well, I went all the time and it was a little tense
because I knew I'd be woken up at like 530 in the morning and asked what I want for dinner. And it was around food.
And it was you're not eating enough, you're eating too much. I mean, it was just, I was
never like excited for those Florida trips. But I learned the culture and I believe it
or not I perform for years years performing at all those developments
like in South Florida.
Oh, I bet you crush.
Oh, I've learned how to do them.
The first time, you'll love this Seth,
but I opened for the platters.
Okay, great.
I ever did that.
There's like one original platter.
Yeah, no, whatever they're like the platters.
It's a big old asterisk. Yeah, no, whatever. They're like the platters. It's a big old asterisk Yeah, and I did all the century villages in Florida
It was a nightmare like I was not good enough or funny enough. I bombed so bad
I started out doing a half an hour and ended up doing like six minutes. How old were you? I
Was I was in my thirties. Okay.
Can you just paint a picture for us
of what a room in one of those developments looks like?
Is it a hundred people?
Is it 200 people?
Is it folding chairs?
Well, first of all, you have to sign your life away
when you do these shows
because they want a meet and greet,
and a Q and A for like $11. And so I always have to do this meet and greet, a show, and a Q&A for like $11.
And so I always have to do this meet and greet
where they're just staring at me, just like.
Yeah.
The meet and greet is better,
a meet and greet after a show though,
I'm sure they're mostly complimentary though.
Well, this is the funny thing,
and I've done this too as a bit,
but their comments, they
always come up to you and they always start out nice and end up nasty.
It's like, I thought you were very talented, but no one around me, not one person.
You should kill yourself.
Or they always say, you're so pretty up close.
Yeah, it's so funny.
It's not good. Sometimes like even in the YouTube comments
for my show, people say, I don't care what anybody says. I think you're great. What's
the word on the street there? I know. I mean, I thought you were funny. What was the community
in Florida? Was it a retirement community or what was?
I mean, I've done so, I've done retirement communities,
you know, country clubs, you know,
private events like fundraisers,
but they all, you know, it used to be very hard for me
because they would all just stare with that face.
And I used to react to it.
And then I stopped reacting and a comic said to me, you need to understand they're seeing
you as like their granddaughter or their daughter, you know, so they don't want to like make
funny yourself too much.
But they have so funny.
It's funny that it came from a place of sweetness.
Yeah, it's true.
It really I mean, no, some of them are very hostile.
They just yell out.
They're like, this isn't funny.
It's not funny.
One time a woman was had her head down the whole time in the front.
And I swear in the middle of my act, she just lifted her head and she goes,
you're all over the place.
I like that it's like a very funny Jewish grandmother audience,
whereas like, it's not that they dislike you,
they're just disappointed.
They expected more, they wanted more for you in life.
Yeah, well, they'll also say, who hired her?
I don't understand, we paid for this?
Great.
Yeah.
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When you were young and you would go to these communities,
because we've had other guests who would do this thing
and they'd go down and there'd be other kids,
you know, other grandkids.
Did you have a community of people that you would see every year
that you got closer with over time?
Yeah, I mean, you would see the same kids,
and it was fun.
I mean, go to the pool and play sports
and do all kinds of things.
But again, everything centered around the food.
So there was always pressure about the next meal.
Yeah.
And now, was the food good
or was it just a sort of boilerplate?
Okay, that's good.
Was it being sort of prepared in your grandmother's house
or was there sort of a community center
that you would go to or was it-
No, there's actual restaurants.
There's like a main restaurant
and they have honestly the best salad bar
you could ever have.
It has- And as a kid.
A salad bar is pretty great.
This is the best thing.
They have a pickle bar.
It's the best part of the whole thing
with all kinds of pickles and like green tomatoes.
I like a pickle bar.
I would stock up on that.
I know I love pickles.
Yeah.
I think a salad bar is,
I'm just gonna have the pickle bar.
Just that part.
Yeah, but the salad-
But like a long pickle bar.
Yeah, but this is the thing.
The salad bar had like corned beef, pastrami,
roast beef, like it was really good.
All kinds of soups and-
Well, again, if they're gonna heckle mid act and say,
who booked her?
I'm assuming if the salad bar wasn't up to par,
they were gonna hear about it at the front desk.
If it was Jackie Mason, it would have been like an amazing steak lobster, you know, that whole thing. If the salad bar wasn't up to par, they were gonna hear about it at the front desk.
If it was Jackie Mason, it would have been like an amazing steak lobster, you know, that whole thing.
Did you, as when you were little, did you ever go to like a performance of somebody who was down doing those kind of shows?
Yeah, I mean, they had like, I didn't know what was going on, but I actually performed with a lot of those guys when I started out, like Freddie Roman and Dick Capri,
and all, I mean, all of them.
And I would just bomb and they would kill,
like I've never seen people kill
the way that those comics would kill.
I now imagine Freddie Roman at that point
is probably not trying out much new material
when he's going up.
They all did, they're all each other's material.
Right.
No.
They'd be like, what are the way to say to the group
of Jewish women sitting in a restaurant
and everyone go, what?
And you go, is anything okay?
You're just crushed.
So I mean, that though, I mean, I could imagine
as like a young comment, one, they know who Freddie is,
two, he's doing material that has like been tested
for a hundred years.
Right.
Like it must've been so hard to come up as a new face
who was trying new jokes.
It was horrible.
I'm telling you, people would walk out.
I mean, it was really the hardest gigs I've ever done.
Now that must make you better as a comedian.
Like, sure, a COVID.
Yeah, right.
It did. It did.
Josh and I used to do,
we worked for an improv comedy theater in Amsterdam.
And I used to always say,
like, no matter how bad a show's going,
at least I'm not trying to make Dutch people laugh.
I know they're the worst.
Yeah.
So like at some point,
like I think doing those early gigs
where you're against like an impossible audience
is incredibly helpful. I think it was more helpful where you're against like an impossible audience is incredibly helpful.
I think it was more helpful than doing like,
you know, a club in New York at two in the morning
with drunk people or prom kids throwing things at me,
you know?
Yeah, because they're actually paying attention.
Like that's the, it's,
the worst is when you bomb to an audience that's listening.
So true.
You know, like with drunk people, you're like, I bombed,
and everybody's like, they weren't listening.
But like, no, they were definitely dialed in
and just did not care for it.
Well, they're really listening
because they have to make sure it's worth their money.
They are like hooked in.
Also listening is now, requires a little extra effort
at that age.
Right, exactly.
I mean, some of them, they were 80s and 90s,
some had already passed and they're just in.
They don't. It to be wheeled out.
It's rude to the performer to clear them out, Minjoo.
Did you, and what was your sibling situation growing up?
So I grew up with one sister between my parents,
my older sister, Jennifer, then my dad got remarried
and I have two halves.
Right.
And then my mom got remarried to Zach Graf's father.
Gotcha.
And there were four kids there.
Yeah. Wow.
So you and your sister, two halves and then four steps.
Yeah.
And what is the age gap from top to bottom
of all those kids?
My oldest sibling is Adam, who is, he's the oldest,
and then it goes down to like my sister,
my other stepbrother, Josh, me,
my stepsister, Shoshana, and then Zach,
and then I have two halves that are younger.
Wow.
And so Zach, by the way, a year between us in college,
a year between Josh and me.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
What a small world.
How old were you when you got your steps siblings?
Well, that's funny,
because my mom started dating Zach's brother,
you know, their father,
and Josh was one of my best friends in high school.
So we were like, oh, dating.
Oh, that's weird. And then not only dating, but it's like it's working out.
Well, my mom called around the town to find lawyers
to do a seminar about how to be more successful.
This is what she used to do.
She used to like literally create all these jobs.
And she called him and they were talking and he he asked her out.
And then they went out on the first date date He said I will you marry me. I'm like, what a schmuck, you know first day
Wow, and
I was I think like 15 and Zach was nine or something. Yeah. Wow
And is that and did you cohabitate at that point?
We did part-time.
We both lived with our moms half the time
and our dad half the time, one of those situations.
But there's so many stories about us being in the house
together with the therapy stuff,
because Zach's father, who was a lawyer,
became a quote unquote therapist.
And my mom and Hal my stepfather ran couples courses
out of the house.
It's like meet the Fockers, exactly.
So, I mean, and I guess that's, as I'm thinking back,
is that also what Ian Holm does in Garden State, right?
Is that?
Yes, yes.
Yeah, so as you're saying this, I'm like,
why am I also picturing it with the actor Ian Holm?
So, I mean, that's a lot of fam...
Like, so what is the biggest family trip you went on,
let's say, before you were 18 years old?
How many people?
Oh, my God. Well, we all...
These are amazing stories.
I loved... I was so glad to do this podcast.
We all went to an island.
I think it was in Mexico. I don't know.
But we all went to an island.
It was San. Croix actually
I'm okay. We're all the same thing and
We you know had a great time there like the kids we all like partied and we had fun and then
during the trip
We get a call that my sister had to go back early
to back home for something.
And my father, it's a little confusing, but my mom's ex-husband walked her to the door
of the house because she was scared.
It was at night.
And she walked in and there was stuff everywhere.
Like the house had been robbed.
I don't know why.
Because it's such a crazy story.
You'll know why I'm laughing.
So there was like nothing there.
Like they took like the mixer. Like they took like the mixer.
Like they took everything.
TVs, I mean, I'm not kidding.
Like it was ransacked.
And then my dad walked her around the house
and someone had defecated on my stepfather's pillow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
That, that, that sort of-
Very aggressive, right?
Very aggressive.
That like Zorro signature whenever it involves human stool.
Yeah.
It's just that last indignity.
It's like, it wasn't enough you took the mixers.
Also, if like, if the cops came and they were like,
we're gonna look for some DNA evidence.
And they saw that and they were like,
we're gonna keep looking.
Maybe there's some other good DNA we can use.
Yeah, and they had time.
They had enough time there to like have it come in,
you know, start and then to push it out.
Like it was, yeah, it's a lot.
I know.
I will say if you've ever like wondered
what it would feel like to poop on your own carpet,
I think like wait until your house gets broken into
and then before you call the cops.
Like, cause that's the one time you can get away with it.
You know what I mean?
I suppose.
Yeah, that's true.
How old was your sister when she got back
to this ransacked house?
I mean, she was maybe like 19 or 20.
Okay.
So she was of an age where she could be home alone
and, but still.
Yeah.
She was like freaking out.
She was, she called us and we were like, what?
Like they, and I had pot in my drawer.
That was really the worst part.
They took my pot.
Were you asking like questions without really asking like,
what about the socks?
Did they leave the socks?
Yeah, I'm like, what about my room?
Is the six foot bong missing?
Yeah.
I was working on a sort of a pipe project, you might say.
Yeah. I'm saving oregano. Did a pipe project, you might say.
I'm saving oregano.
Did they take my oregano?
Yeah.
That's incredible.
But you did, so you did travel with half, did you have, you traveled with siblings and
half siblings?
Yeah, I went to, I went to Aspen with my dad and my stepmother and my two, actually, and my sister, the other
ones weren't born yet.
And we were going to Vail for the night to just go skiing somewhere else.
This is unbelievable too.
My dad called a limo driver and the guy came and it was literally one of those limos.
It was like a hundred feet long, you
know, like, like I couldn't even see my father from the back, you know, and we had like 86 bags
because it's just we had so much luggage. So my sister, my stepmother and I are in the back
and there's like rows of luggage in front of us and And my dad's in the front. And he was like a very dramatic person,
like just very intense.
And the limo driver was driving into snowstorm.
Like I'm not even exaggerating.
It wasn't just like flurrying.
It was this, but they're used to driving in that.
So he's driving this thing.
He's like, oh, I'm tired from shoveling snow all day.
And my dad gets like tense and he's like,
you want me to drive?
You know, I don't want me to drive? You know,
I don't want you to drive, you know, everyone tired, my family's in the car and he's like, no, no, I'm fine. And I'm not, we're on a highway, like just driving from Aspen to Vail
in this snowstorm. And he's like, I just saw a light. My father's like, looks back and he's like,
what the fuck is he talking about? The next thing you know, the guy goes like this,
like his arms get locked and he looks back at us
and he's like.
And I'm like, is he like looking at us?
Like, look, I can drive with no hands.
I'm like, what is happening?
All of a sudden this foam starts coming out.
He's had a seizure with his foot on the gas.
Oh my God.
I thought he was turning into a vampire, but.
I wish. He was, we were accelerating. Oh my God. I thought he was turning into a vampire, but. I did too.
I wish.
Yeah.
Right.
He was accelerating.
We were accelerating.
He was driving on a highway on the mountains in a snowstorm and we're swerving.
Okay?
Uh-huh.
My father grabs, he tries to pull him and he's dead weight.
Like I never knew, when you have a seizure, you're like, you can't even.
Right. And my father's yanking him and he yanks him into the door.
The guy hits his head.
And my, I don't know how my father did this.
It was a miracle because he can't even change a light bulb.
He pumped the brake and steered us into, we crashed into a snowbank, but we were all okay.
I think it was going to be a tank.
Yeah. I, as a dad, may it never come to pass.
I would be so proud of myself if I managed to do something.
But he had a literal nervous breakdown.
He got out of the car and was like screaming
and you know, like this.
And the guy didn't remember a thing.
And we were all okay, but the car was, you know,
our car wasn't okay.
And there was just like gloves and mittens
and shit everywhere.
And then no one really has that much sympathy
when a limo's crashed into a snowbank.
Especially a hundred yard long limo.
The longest limo.
People are just driving by, you're waving your hands.
You're like, what do you call your, call your butler.
Yeah, they're like, oh, they got a train here.
Yeah, it was so long. That thing was like, yeah do you call your call your butler? Yeah, they're like, oh they got a train here Yeah, it was so long that thing was like
Yeah, it was intense
Wow
Do you ski now? I?
Don't ski anymore because I have a bad knee, but I skied my whole life
In the Berkshires we I grew up with a house, you know a home and like a tiny little home that my parents built
Many many many many years ago.
So it was great.
You have four kids of your own, is that right?
I do, I have four daughters from two baby mamas.
Oh my God, that's amazing.
What's the age range of them?
I forgot.
No. That's fine.
I'll be honest.
I know, the oldest is 18.
She's in University of Delaware.
And then you're not going to believe this,
but the youngest are nine and a half.
And then I have six year old twins.
All right.
What a, that's a gap.
It's a lot.
Well, because the first one was first
from my first relationship.
Yep.
And that wasn't even legally,
I was never, we got married, but it wasn't legal at the time.
Yeah?
So, yeah, it was, yeah, but then I have these-
So it doesn't really count, is what you're saying.
You're like, you can't, nobody can put that on you
because it wasn't, it never actually happened legally.
I know, I was like, thank God, I can't stand.
Um, joke.
But yeah, yeah, I have all these-
Have you gone on a vacation with all four girls at once? Um, joke. But, um, yeah, yeah, I have all these.
Have you, uh, have you gone on a vacation with all four girls at once?
Not all four, but I've gone to a bunch with, you know, one and then the other three.
Yeah.
Is it, at what age do you think it's the most fun to go on a trip with just one kid?
Um.
For them, for the kids' age. I I know it's so much easier, right?
Yeah. Um,
at what age? Yeah, I've been trying this year, like I do to take trips with just
one kid and I almost think it doesn't even matter how old they are because it's
just so much fun when there's just one of them. I think it's really important to
go with just one. I really like I went with my daughter Zoe, the oldest to Florida,
and we had such a great time and they need that alone time.
Yeah.
I think it's great you're doing that.
I mean, I would love to do that with the little ones,
but it's too much right now.
They like freak out that it's going and the other two aren't.
Are they, as the twins, are they very close?
Are they sort of attached? They they very are they very close? Are they sort of?
Attached they got closer. Okay, they used to
Argue a lot more but they're so funny with each other now. I'm so silly with my kids So they're really really silly, but it's amazing might they're fraternal, but they look nothing alike. I mean, it's insane
Mm-hmm. One is like, has light hair and light eyes,
and the other one is dark with dark hair and dark eyes.
Did anybody, was there any sort of genetic predisposition to twins?
Did either one of you have twins in your life?
No, no.
I didn't have any of them because I never had a desire to have kids.
Meaning physically, I never had the desire. have kids. That's the truth, meaning physically, never had the desire.
And we did in vitro,
so that of course gives you a higher chance of having twins,
but we were like, oh my God, there's twins.
Like it was a lot.
Yeah.
How did the nine-year-old take it
when she found out she was about to have
two younger sisters at once?
I think she was excited, but it's been like, you know, she was like the superstar. And then
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Did you guys ever go overseas with travel when you were a kid?
We went to St. Thomas every year.
Gotcha.
No idea why.
Same place where your family of kind would go to the same place every time?
Yeah. It was just, oh my God,
it was like the same thing as going to Florida.
I felt like we saw the same people.
Yeah.
It was fun, but we didn't do like a overseas trip, all of us together.
Because my parents probably would have killed each other.
Yeah.
Thank God.
What was the island itinerary?
What would occupy your time in St. Thomas every year?
We did a lot of like activities.
It was great.
Like water skiing and all kinds of stuff.
And I love-
So were you at a resort or were you-
Yes, it was called the Fisherman's Reef.
I don't even know if it's still there.
It's a great name for a resort.
Isn't it?
I feel like that is like just a name
that is like a siren call to people who live in New Jersey.
Ooh, Fisherman's Reef, tell me more.
Yeah, oh, you're going to the Fisherman's Reef?
Tell me how it was.
Guess somebody hit the big time
now they're going to the Fisherman's Reef.
Yeah, it was, I grew up like around some people
who had money, but they were so down to earth.
Like I love where I grew up.
It was, it wasn't showy, but then if so down to earth. Like I love where I grew up. It was,
it wasn't showy. But then if you get into some other towns around it, like Livingston, Short Hills, like it's very showy.
Yeah. Was the Berkshires house, was that just sort of a vacation house that you'd go to? And was that,
would you go regularly or?
Yeah, we went all the time, you know, in the summer and in the winter.
And I love it.
I love it there.
It's amazing.
It's so beautiful.
And that's where we really did a lot of different,
like horseback riding and hiking
and the house is right near a lake.
So it was great.
It was fun.
Are you an outdoorsy person?
No. Like to this day?
No. You don't present as one.
That's hilarious.
I used to be just shocking, right, for a lesbian?
It must have been so hard for you
in the lesbian community to be indoorsy.
It still is.
I'm really more so in the gay male community.
That's really my community.
I will say it's one, I mean, you're a special, by the way,
which is on Hulu right now is fantastic.
It is fantastic.
The immediate joy from the male gay community
when you walk on stage is palpable.
It's insane.
They're literally like, thank God for that community
because they're making my career where it is.
Has that always been the case?
When did, when do you feel like this love affair started?
Well this is the thing, when I'm on the road I would just do my act right? But then I started
putting out crowd work clips because I'm like I'm not going to put out my material on YouTube.
So I started putting out a lot of crowd work stuff and then you know gay men were always supportive
but I have this banter with them. Like I know that community so well. I do gay cruises you know, gay men were always supportive, but I have this banter with them. Like, I know that community so well.
I do gay cruises, you know, for thousands of them.
It's hilarious.
And I have a whole new bit about that,
like a 10-minute rant about gay cruises.
All right, well, now, I don't want you to steal your material,
but I am fascinated by this.
So, do you remember the first time
you were asked to do a comedy on a cruise?
Well, I've done a lot of like regular cruises too,
which are a nightmare.
You know, I just want to like jump off.
Like I can't-
How, and when you do a cruise,
do you do multiple shows or do you just do the one?
It depends, like on the gay cruises,
you normally do like one night, you'll do two 45 minute sets. It's very easy and you can do the one? It depends, like on the gay cruises, you normally do like one night,
you'll do two 45 minute sets.
It's very easy and you can do the show
just so they can get the thousands of guys in.
And how long are you, how long do you stay on for
if you're doing two shows, maybe in one night?
Are you on for 10 days?
Are you on for-
I've gone on for a week, I've gone on for two weeks.
I've been all over the world with them.
Like literally, I've been on the Greek islands
three times with them.
I mean, it's incredible.
I've seen so many places because of these cruises
and it's unbelievable how like fun they are.
I mean, they get the best DJs in the world.
They get the best laser lighting.
Like it's insane.
And then they have theme parties every day, every night.
So basically, the gay men bring like six bags each of costumes.
And I have done the lesbian ones too.
And I say they bring a backpack of beer.
It looks like I'm like, are we going to Normandy?
It looks like I'm on with like 800 GI Joes.
But anyway, so they're just incredible.
They have a sex deck.
This is what I talk about.
It's, they have a deck that they fool around.
And I know this sounds crazy, but I had to check it out.
So I'm like, I have to, I need to.
Of course.
If you're within earshot of the sex deck.
I had to. You gotta check it out.
Do they make you put like your phone in a pouch
like you're going to see live comedy so you're not...
Could you imagine?
No, you just, I was like, I said to my friend Drew,
what do I do if someone recognizes me?
Like I already performed for thousands of them
and he told me to tell them I'm a bear.
Oh, good. Yeah.
So but I went up there and I swear it was like feeding time at the zoo.
It was so they were all I just heard sounds like, yeah, come on.
Was so crazy.
And then I got sick on one with my stomach and I had to go down to the ship hospital,
which was insane.
I got taken off the cruise on a stretcher in Alaska and I was fine.
But I always say there's nothing as dramatic as getting taken off a gay cruise ship on
a stretcher like that's of work that they love.
It was like Princess Diana's funeral.
It was so...
They were like, the net queen lived!
Like, they were all on their balconies, like, you know.
While the DJ's like, boom-tss, boom-tss, boom-tss, boom-tss.
The other like, come on!
Help me, okay?
Yeah, it was amazing.
Do you prefer to do your show early in a cruise
or late in the cruise?
I would imagine early is nice
because then you get to be the celeb of the cruise too.
Right, and I've done them with a lot of people
like, you know, Wanda Sykes, a ton of people.
I did it with Kristin Chenoweth with,
oh my God, I can name so many people.
So it's great because you're with all these
incredible performers and drag queens and-
I think nothing would reveal how little a person knew about gay cruises
than if they asked the question, and did they like Kristin Chenoweth?
And how did Kristin do? Heavy sledding for Kristin?
Did they know who she was? Did she have that at least?
I mean, that must be. I mean, I would want to be in a room at a gay cruise and they're like, ladies and gentlemen, Christian Genoweth.
Oh my God.
They go, they pass out. They go, they're all banning themselves.
And at this point, when you do you feel like your reputation precedes you a little bit on the cruises? And when you walk out, is it like your special
where people are just ready for Jessica?
Yeah, I'd say in front of the gay men, it's always...
I really have amazing fans.
I know people say that, but every club I go to,
every theater, they're like, your fans are the nicest.
That's such a great thing to hear.
I know, I'm like, because they're all mentally ill.
Like my manager says I'm like the grateful dad for the mentally ill.
Like I used to do meet and greets and I literally would just have people sobbing and hugging me.
Like I can't.
This is great and you're wonderful, but this is a lot for me to take up.
It's a very fun.
One of the very fun things about your special is you're immediately doing
material that is, oh, it's risqué, right? I'll use my mom's French term for it. And yet it is,
they're just eating it up in a way that it's very clear they're not like, who's this comedian
going to be? Like they know exactly what you're going to bring it. You're bringing it to them
in a way that they're so delighted by and it's really, really fun.
Thank you.
I mean, this one was definitely edgier than the last one.
And I think because I was going through a dark point
in my life, you know, when I was developing it,
I got divorced.
So I think like going through that and just being edgy
and also these gay male audiences where you kind of can just go, they just don't get offended
99% of the time. So I was able to just be like nuts. And it was freeing. Like I didn't
even realize it was dirty until people said, oh, this is dirt. I'm like, oh my god, I'm
so... people said, oh, this is dirt. I'm like, oh my God, I'm so.
I want people, I want everybody listening to watch the first 10 minutes and then know
that Jessica didn't know it was dirty.
Well, I think because I'm, you know what, Seth?
It's so real.
Like I'm not saying something to just.
No, and I should say like, right, it's not shock.
It's not, it's because it's also about you.
Yeah, it's...
Like there is, yeah, so it all is like playing out
of authentic stuff.
It's, this is not a comedy to like shock
just for shocking sake.
It's, and it's, and I think that's maybe why
there's this real warmth to it that, you know,
you find yourself listening to it as a place of like,
empathy with you, with you as a performer,
and then also just delighting in how far past the, you know, there's like beats after beats
after beats when you realize like, oh my God, I can't believe this started there and now it's here,
and it's all from this very human place. Yeah, thank you so much. I mean, it's so funny
because the stuff I'm working on now is not like that at all
It's a lot about my mom being a therapist again, like I've talked about that in the past, but it's interesting
You know how your material changes?
it is nice to what it's a snapshot of like I mean again the last one I did is like very much about being a parent and
Part of it is like a complete. I can't imagine. I wasn't even literally thinking about anything else for the past three years.
Right.
Did your parents ever see,
did they come and watch you perform?
Oh my God, all the time.
They've always been very supportive.
My mom loves that everyone recognizes her
because not everyone, but I've done videos with her,
which have gotten millions of views.
So she's like, oh, someone came up to me at the show.
And, you know...
We got one of those.
Yeah.
Our mom just got recognized by her voice
in a grocery store from being on the podcast.
Yeah, she comes and has us.
Yeah.
Like, that's amazing.
Yeah.
Well, it had an OMG on the text when she told in with us. That's really, like that's amazing. Yeah. So she was really happy.
Well, it had an OMG on the text when she told us about it.
Yeah.
So she was excited.
The other day, my mom texted me and she's like,
oh my God, honey, you're not gonna believe it.
But I was at the hairdresser and he was so much nicer to me
because he watched her special and he's a huge fan.
And I just appreciate it.
I'm like, oh God, can I have money?
You're just greasing the wheels of your mother's life.
That's excellent.
Do you think it was just the way they were wired
to be parents or the fact that they were therapists
that they like sort of supported you
as you took this sort of maybe, you know
not the most normal path for someone to take in life?
You know what?
I think that I was going to NYU for someone to take in life? You know what?
I think that I was going to NYU for a master's
in social work and I was not happy.
I did not want to do it.
And I think just from knowing how funny I was
my entire life, like I was, you know, a lot of people say
but I was really the class clown from like a very
very young age.
And they appreciated your sense of humor from a young age?
That's great.
Yeah, they always age. And they appreciated your sense of humor from a young age? That's great. Yeah, they always did.
And my father was one of the funniest people on earth.
They're both hilarious.
I mean, I grew up in a very funny family.
And also because with my mom, Zach was a child actor,
so he was already in it and doing it.
And my other stepbrothers are writers.
So it was like, they were already writing stuff
and working on things.
And they came to the first show and I was horrific,
but they saw the potential, I guess.
And they really supported it.
But my dad, this is a great story about my dad.
When I filmed my Comedy Central special,
this is so random.
You guys are gonna be like,
what are you talking about?
But Phil Donahue and Marlo Thomas came to my show.
So crazy, because they're huge fans.
By the way, I, not to interrupt,
I just saw Marlo Thomas.
Really? In person.
And I was so excited because I got to tell Marlo Thomas
that we've been playing Free to Be, You and Me.
I know.
To our kids.
And I was just telling her like,
you were so ahead of the curve.
Like such a novel, cool thing to do
that holds up really well.
That is the best, I know.
That's the best Free to Be, I love it.
All right, so you have Donahue and Krazy
for an early show to have them there at a special.
In my special, I say, you know, Phil, are you sleeping
or something like that.
And I always do that.
I just improv.
But I look out and they're sitting there and I'm like,
am I on acid?
Like why are Phil, Donahue and Marla,
and anyway, they came backstage after.
And my father who was very supportive in certain ways and very tough in certain ways, Marlo
is like, can you believe her?
How did you think she did?
He goes, she was great, but she lost her stride in the middle.
It was one of the best sets I've ever had in my life.
I couldn't have asked for... But I think also that's made me work so hard.
Like, just really...
Always tough on myself.
I also think I'll take every day of the week
a parent who is engaged and maybe a little critical
as to one who doesn't care at all, right?
I agree.
So lucky to be doing comedy.
And I did a show in Boston.
My parents came and my dad-
Who had a note, dad or mom?
I love who I know.
But my dad brought a bunch of cousins
and we're backstage afterwards with everybody.
And again, this is again,
it's the greatest compliment a parent can give.
Like he knows the set at this point.
And he goes, new closer.
And I go, yeah, I'm really excited.
I think it did great.
He goes, yeah, not bad.
Yeah.
And I was like, so that's like,
I go, that's ultimately what you get
is you have a dad who knows you have a new closer
and also is like, doesn't quite think it's there yet.
And by the way, I kept working on it and he was right.
So.
I did a gig in Florida at one of, at University of at University of I don't know was in Fort Lauderdale
It was
Cavernous room cavern and there were like 300 people there price at
2,000 right and I was on with all these comics, you know Jewish well, they weren't all Jewish actually and
My grandmother came with like ten people from her development
This is so random who was there.
I had college friends there from my sorority from University of Maryland and Sarah Silverman's
father.
This was all the people.
She's like, my father is a huge fan, wants to come to your show.
I had one of the worst sets I've had in my entire career.
There was, you know, there's nothing I could do.
Like you know, you go into the crowd, you say, you know, what is, you know, I mean, I tried everything, it was 20 minutes
felt like two hours. And I go backstage and I'm miserable and embarrassed. And all the
comics like you did fine. It wasn't that bad. And I'm like, it was horrific. Like, I don't know
what you're talking about. Then my college friends come back and they're like, you were
so funny. You were like amazing. We were laughing so hard. And I'm like, what's going on? And
then Sarah Silverman's father comes back and he's like, good job. You know, you did it.
Like I think he was just trying to be nice.
Yeah.
My grandmother walks back with these 10 old people
and they're all standing around me
and they're not even smiling at me
because they know it was not good.
Yeah.
And my grandmother looks at me and she goes,
what happened?
It was horrible.
You embarrassed me in front of my friends
and I literally gave her a hug.
I'm like, thank you for being so honest.
Yeah.
It was horrible.
It's really funny to say that in front of the friends you just embarrassed her in front of.
I know.
She was like, you embarrassed me in front of my friends and now I in turn shall
embarrass you in front of my friends.
That generation would just embarrass you in public all the time.
I mean, she would walk into like a Macy's with me and be like, wear the clothes for the fat kids.
You know, the ones who can't stop eating.
Where's that section?
Well, that's just wonderful.
I'm so glad I was going to ask if you ever had a chance to perform in front of her as well.
So I'm so glad that you did.
And you know, obviously I only, my only regret is that you had a bad show. No, she was the one that told me to get into standup.
I've said it a lot of times.
She called me over to her and said,
you need to be a comedian.
I said, I could never do that.
And she's like, every time you're sitting with people,
they're laughing.
You need to try standup comedy.
And she's a big fan of comedy.
And I took a class and I was like,
oh, here's my community.
This is where I belong.
That's great.
Yeah.
This has been fantastic.
I highly recommend your special
for everybody who's listening.
It's on Hulu.
It's wonderful.
And we now are gonna speed round you.
All right, Jessica? Okay, good.
Yeah.
And I'm the Man is the name of that special.
Just if you're looking.
I was worried Josh was shouting out. Yeah, And I'm the man is the name of that special. Just if you're looking. I was worried Josh was shouting out.
Yeah, just a quick flex before we get into the Q and A's.
I'm the man, Seth is the boy.
Just saying.
All right, here we go.
You can only pick one of these.
Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous
or educational?
Relaxing.
What is your favorite means of transportation?
Crawling.
No one ever says crawling, that's a good, yeah.
Cause it's dumb to press.
I think flying.
Okay.
If you could take a vacation with any family,
alive or dead, real or fictional,
other than your own family,
what family would you like to travel with?
Oh, that's so interesting.
The Trumps, no, I'm joking.
I think what-
That Qatari plane,
gotta get a ride on a Qatari plane.
Yeah, I know.
It's, yeah.
Beautiful.
It's-
It's a beautiful plane. It's, yeah. Beautiful. It's. It's beautiful playing.
It's huge.
Everybody said.
Yeah, I think, believe it or not, I'd wanna,
your family sounds interesting.
Yeah, yes, you're not a bad pick.
Not a bad pick.
I think maybe like, this is gonna sound weird,
but Lady Gaga's family.
I've been obsessed with her recently. I think she like this is gonna sound weird, but Lady Gaga's family. I've been obsessed with her recently.
I think she's incredible.
Yeah, she is.
Perfectly good person to be obsessed with.
Yeah.
If you had to be stranded on a desert island
with one member of your family, who would it be?
Oh my God.
And it could be anyone in my family.
Anyone, living or dead.
I can't pick one of my kids.
So I'm gonna say my sister, Jennifer.
Okay. You're from, is say my sister, Jennifer. Okay.
You're from, is it South Orange, New Jersey?
Do I have that correct?
Yes.
Would you recommend South Orange, New Jersey
as a vacation destination?
100%.
I absolutely love where I grew up.
I think everyone can check it out.
It's a great area.
Great.
And Seth has our final questions.
Jessica, have you been to the Grand Canyon?
Yes.
Was it worth it?
Yes.
All right.
I didn't know how this was gonna break.
Yeah, we've been.
I love it, Seth is non-cust.
I thought it was fine.
I thought it was right down the middle.
Oh my God, wait, did you have a minute?
What did you think was not great about it?
I didn't say it wasn't.
Cause it was exactly what I thought it would be.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like it was, was it a Grand Canyon?
Sure.
But like, what is that?
What's that doing for me?
Yeah, I understand.
I mean, it was maybe because that was one
of the first places I saw that was like mountains
and nature. It was the first places I saw that was like mountains and nature.
Yeah, I get it.
The first time a very long time ago.
But then when I was like in other places in America, I was like, wow, this country is
beautiful.
I mean, it's falling apart, but it's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
And the good thing about a canyon is like, even when it falls apart, it kind of looks
like a canyon.
It'll be the last thing people notice. Like no one's ever gonna be like, you know, I went to shit, that hole like the canyon. It'll be the last thing people notice.
Like no one's ever gonna be like,
you know what went to shit?
That hole in the ground.
That's the end.
Right, no one will ever notice that it got worse.
Yeah, they're going.
I mean, if people have been around for billions of years,
they'd be like, the canyon used to be great.
It was just, it's only getting bigger.
It's all young.
It's like where erosion's helping out.
The canyon's like, we got big stuff planned.
Come back in a million years.
You think it's grand now.
Yeah.
Come back in a million years.
It'll just be a hole, yeah.
Yeah.
It has been a delight talking to you.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Love to you and your family.
Thank you.
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