Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JOHN OLIVER Camped for Two Human Weeks

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

John Oliver joins Seth & Josh to dish all about the town he's from (which he does NOT recommend vacationing in), camping with his family, and what kind of trips he likes to go on now.Hosted by Seth & ...Josh Meyers. Theme song written & performed by Jeff Tweedy. Produced by Rabbit Grin Productions

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, this is Seth. This is Josh. And this is a disclaimer that some of these episodes of Family Trips were recorded before the Screen Actors Guild Strike took place. So if people are talking about work that they have coming out, we just want you to know that they were not breaking strike rules by doing so. And moving forward, we're going to make sure that doesn't happen with any future guests. Thanks. Hi Pashi. Hi Sufi. Can I tell you one of my favorite things about the podcast so far? Yeah, please. I'm learning things about you that I didn't know. Oh, yeah. My intention was I'd learn about the celebrity guests, but I'm learning about you. Can I tell you a thing I've learned? Yeah, please. Based on how this is going in the early days of the podcast,
Starting point is 00:00:43 I have a way bigger bladder than you. No, yeah, this is true. Almost every episode, you just at some point will get up, go to the bathroom, and also as soon as they're over, you throw your headphones off and just take off. And I buzz off. Yeah, and then you text me to say, please, to thank the guest. You can't even stay long enough to say thank you. There was one guest that I couldn't stay for.
Starting point is 00:01:08 No, I think that's the truth. But I think my lie is funnier. I'm very quick with my goodbyes. You're very quick with your goodbyes. But you throw off your headphones like cops have been banging at the door the whole episode. I've given myself this note and I haven't taken it yet. But we record in the morning. I'm three hours earlier. So I wake up and I get right into some coffee and I get right into some
Starting point is 00:01:31 water and I'm hydrating and I have to like remind myself, don't do that or just like a cup of coffee and you'll be fine. Now I think again, I don't want to make this an LA thing, but I think in general people in LA hydrate more. Yeah, yeah. I think you probably take it pretty seriously. And I bet if we stacked up how much water you and I drink in a day, it's a massive difference.
Starting point is 00:01:56 You know who never wants water and who thinks that carrying around water is total bullshit? Dad? Mom. Mom? Oh, yeah, that makes bullshit. Dad? Mom. Mom. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. She's like, I'm fine. I never walked around with water.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Now everybody walks around with water. I think a very jarring chart that mom's doctor could show her would be two bars, one being her gin and tonic intake and one being her water. There's water in those yeah yeah that makes sense i should note that our dad is a man of science so he would be very pro water yeah and he would be very pro telling you about an article he read about the importance of water even if you had read that article yeah he's also pretty pro spilling a little bit of water on his chest.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Particularly if the shirt is brand new. Yes. He uses water to Zorro his own clothes. That's how you know he's been there. We were in Ireland and he like bought this shirt. I want to say at a golf club that he like his like his back was hurting. So he skipped a day, but he came to he dropped us off so mom and I could play golf. And then he bought a shirt at a club that he didn't play at.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And then at lunch, spilled food all over it. Yeah. I mean, it's been a long standing bit that dad can't eat a thing with mustard on it without getting mustard on himself yeah yeah his food marks him the way dogs mark a lawn we don't we've never done christmas stockings for them but i feel like those little stained sticks would be perfect but see do you think if you gave dad a stained stick he would actually carry it around with him i don't know he's retired now so maybe maybe it's gonna be so maybe it's more he has
Starting point is 00:03:50 more pockets it's like he's looking for a new identity he's gonna be the stain stick guy yeah maybe our dad did just retire and our dad worked for a french bank. And it was really fun. I told Josh I got to go to his retirement. And it's very strange to watch people who spent more time with your dad over the course of the last 25 years than we have. I mean, they saw him all the time. Yeah. And they actually know what he did. They did know what he did. I should note that Josh and I cannot explain.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We can only say that it's trade finance. And maybe we'll do a special bonus pod for no listeners where dad explains what he does for living. But it was very interesting listening to French bankers talk about dad lovingly, but also making it very clear that they know the same guy we know. Yeah. Someone said, one thing we will miss about you, Larry, is you always spoke your mind. And one thing we will not miss about you is you always spoke your mind. It's a well-crafted line. Well-crafted line. You know, the French bankers, known for their well-crafted bon mots.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Bon mots and witty repartee. Yeah, there you go. A couple of French words in there for you. We should note there are currently two guilds on strike, the Screen Actors Guild and the Writers Guild. And so moving forward, when we have guests on this show, if they're any of those guilds, I think usually either in the introduction or in the body of the interview, we talk about work they have coming up. We're not going to do that anymore. We're not going to promote work they did for struck companies. And I should stress that it's very heartbreaking for writers, for actors to be in a position where
Starting point is 00:05:32 they have work coming out that they're proud of, and they're not in a position to talk about it. It is a real sacrifice for them. And it's one we applaud because it is part of the collective action that they're taking. And it really does draw attention to the reasons they're on strike. So if you hear the absence or you notice the absence of us not talking about upcoming projects, that is a decision that's made by all the members of both those guilds and a decision that we are both participating in and one we respect. I think I said that really well. I think you did too. I have nothing to add.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah. I would only just say that I could have used a little nod or something. You sort of went a little dead faced. Yeah. Were you thinking about the next time you were going to go to the bathroom? I don't know. I was thinking about that. It looks like you haven't had a shower in a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I just took a shower. Did you really? Yeah. Oh boy. I'll took a shower. Did you really? Yeah. Oh boy. I'll tell you what, that really. Okay. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:06:31 you know what? I'm going to bring a third person in this conversation. I don't care about how this is going so far. Hey, one of my favorite people, John Oliver is about to join us. And I really, we had a wonderful conversation with john yeah i found
Starting point is 00:06:46 a lot of stuff out about him that i didn't know um yeah he's uh he's great he's so he's so charming and he uh he knows what he's doing as a guy with a talk show uh he knows how to he knows how to talk he knows how to talk knows how to tell a story i have no doubt so you're going to enjoy it so please sit back and listen to Josh and I and John Oliver. Family trips with the Myers brothers. Family trips with the Myers brothers. Here we go. John, this podcast is called Family Trips, and we want to dig into your past and your family trips.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Good luck. Good luck. I'm British, Seth. You know that. So you're embarking on a kind of emotional excavation that is uncharted territory. I don't know what you're going to find there. I've lived an unexamined life. Well, this is just about places you've gone. This is just a travelogue. Well, do you remember an early family trip?
Starting point is 00:07:57 What kind of vacations did you take when you were young? We took basically the same vacation every single year, two weeks in Dawlish, Devon, which was a British seaside town. The kind of seaside town you might have heard Morrissey sing about every now and then. Punch and Judy. Do you have Punch and Judy here? Do you know what that is? Punch and Judy, those are puppet shows? Puppet show on the beach. Yeah, basically like a little column, red and white,
Starting point is 00:08:26 and then Punch and Judy with Punch and his wife, a lot of domestic violence. Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean a lot. I mean, his name was Punch. Yeah, that's right. And yeah, I believe, ironically, he hit her with a plank a lot. If I remember right. I think they've probably changed Punch and Judy now, I would imagine, or just stopped it, because, you know, it's not good for children to see what Punch beat the shit out of Judy because she stepped out of line. Yeah, that Punch and Judy shows sticks of rock.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Again, I don't think that's something you have here what is that it's like it's like a long tube of like sold hard candy okay and then it will have written inside it um where where you got it from so it would say dawlish on the inside it inside. It would taste minty, but I cannot get across to you how hot this thing was. You could not bite it without causing yourself significant injuries. So instead, you kind of suck on it for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:09:34 For two weeks. Okay, gotcha. So this is a sort of a hard candy that will last you for the entire vacation. Yeah, like beef jerky, but sugar-based. Real quick on Punch and Judy. Were you the sort of kid who knew you were watching something bad? When you were little, did you were you already sort of judgmental? You know, I really wish I could say yes to that.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I do remember being told that Punch and Judy had a lot of domestic violence in it and then kind of flashing back, oh yeah, oh yeah, he did hit her a lot. But you have to understand that the atmosphere in the crowd at that time was kind of cheering him along as a child, I believe. But yeah, now definitely I know that that was wrong and I don't think I was in a position to judge even as a nine-year-old who probably should have been. And so you're all just sort of piled into a little a sort of theater setting no no no this would be that's a very charming to think that this requires a theater okay no this is out so Punch and Judy shows in outs outdoors they're an outdoor activity and um yeah it's literally it's like uh I mean it's it's tent, but you can only get one person inside there. Yes, okay. And so if you only have one guy working the punch in Judy, or lady, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It could have been, although based on how it ended up, I'm going to assume it was... I think it would be very difficult for a female puppeteer to do and feel like she wasn't selling out everything important about morality. And so then I'm assuming you've only got tops 100 kids, right? If we're talking about one. I think you're talking about seven. Okay, seven kids. Seven to ten children. That's the audience for this?
Starting point is 00:11:12 That's the audience for this show? Yeah, that's right. I think it's come one, come all, come seven in their entirety. Are we ready to go yet? We are. Okay, let me just take a swig of something behind this tent. All right. I'm about to unleash some frustration. why do you talk to me like that smack smack smack yeah mr punch yeah hey what time of
Starting point is 00:11:36 year do you make your two-week trip what is your well we don't have these these long kind of movie like summers that you have here we had like five to six weeks off, but mainly in August. So we would go for two weeks in August and we would drive there. And how long a drive from the Midlands? Again, the context would be, at this stage, we were driving from Bedford to Dawlish.
Starting point is 00:11:59 It was probably about four hours. But for a British child, that's an awfully long time. Now I've recalibrated. For American kids, four hours, but for a British child, that's an awfully long time. Now I've recalibrated. And for American kids, four hours is nothing. Four hours for us was, you couldn't even fathom that you were in the same day by the time you stopped. I feel like four hours for us did feel long because we're from New England. So all the states are smaller. So like, cause crossing a border, crossing into Massachusetts or crossing into Vermont was exciting. It was a notable thing.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And if you had two of those in one drive, it was like, whoa, wow. Would you break up even a four hour drive? I don't think we would. I think we jammed through. What was the vomiting situation as children? What was the motion sickness situation that you were dealing with? I have no motion sickness. Yeah, I don't think I don't recall any.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Would your parents agree with that? Would they say, oh, you don't remember when we were holding you out the window? I don't. I was. I mean, trust me, I did some vomiting in my day, John. I'm not going to argue with that, but it just never was motion based. It was more maybe sort of eating the wrong thing at the wrong time. Were you or did you suffer that? I think we each went through a phase of it, but there were four of us. So we were kind of i'm not sure there was a down period i'm not sure there's a point at which there wasn't a kind of we need to pull over right now yeah and we would leave early in the morning that was the exciting thing to beat the traffic we would uh we would go in our pajamas and the idea of being in a car in your pajamas was vacation enough, to be honest. So you would look forward to this four-hour drive.
Starting point is 00:13:26 This was not something you dreaded. Very much, yes. That's great. Because pajamas, and we would stop off at a roadside caf to have breakfast. And that, again, was a massive treat. Yeah, I can remember we had mornings where we would get, I feel like, just picked up out of bed and laid in the car. And then you'd wake up and we'd be at some mountain to go hiking or skiing in New Hampshire. And you'd
Starting point is 00:13:51 be like, but here we are. Yeah, you're painting, again, more of a Norman Rockwell image than I think. We'll be loading the car. It's the Northeast. We're in New Hampshire here, John. And then you're being dropped off in a Morrissey song watching puppets beat the shit out of each other. But Josh and I are very different different because I remember I dreaded the arrival. I liked the drive, but I hated getting to the ski mountain because that meant you had to get out of the car, you had to be cold, and you had to do skiing, which I don't care for to this day. Of course.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Why would you put your knees through that? What would you listen to in the car? This makes us sound very elevated, but credit to my parents. We used to listen to book on tapes all the time. Oh, nice. My mom would get them out from the library. I remember we listened to a lot of Gene Shepard, you know, the Christmas story.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I don't know if you've ever seen that movie, but that was based on one of his stories. And he had a lot of just stories about himself growing up. So it was like listening to other family stories. I mean, we were probably a little older. The first time, I did not read Catch-22 the first time I was introduced to it. I listened to Alan Arkin read it.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Oh, wow. Yeah. But I remember that made me nauseous. There was so much description of blood. Yeah, that's fair. I recall being like, I can't do this right now. Wow, Alan Arkin walking you through Catch-22. It's not the most relaxing way to vacation, is it?
Starting point is 00:15:18 It's a good way, but it's not the most relaxing. No. I'd still rather listen to a bombardier describe his guts falling out than be on a ski mountain. Now, John, what did you guys listen to? I think the Commodores. My dad loved the Commodores. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And I believe there was a, I think it had a tape by a band called The Flying Pickets. Oh, wow. I think they were... Is it possible that The Flying Pickets was a band your dad was secretly in and he used this road trip to try to sell you guys on it? I'm not saying definite no to that. I'm Googling it now and my whole world might just fall apart.
Starting point is 00:15:58 The Flying Pickets. I think they were like. They're a vocal group. Yes, there was definitely some tight harmonizing. I remember that. I remember one song started... British acapella vocal group who had a Christmas number one. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Only you. I think that might have been what I just sang. Did you think your dad was cool growing up, John? Let me say I did think my dad was very cool. Josh? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I tell you what, my dad was a teacher.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And what was very, very, very cool was that he taught in an upper school and he was able to open it up for my birthday parties. We would play five-a-side football in a big school. Wow. And in the gym. And that was unbelievably cool. There's basically nothing cooler that you had access to than five-a-side nets. Yeah, that's really good.
Starting point is 00:16:55 That you could all play in. It was pretty good. And with a grown-up trampoline next door. Like someone's going to break their leg's trampoline. Our mom was a school teacher. And I remember we had access because of that to a laminator. And so I would, you know, there would be a Sports Illustrated cover that I would cut out,
Starting point is 00:17:13 and then she would laminate it, and I'd hang it on my wall. And I remember kids coming over and being like, whoa, how did, I'm like, yeah, I just got access to a laminator. Yeah, I just, I live a life that you'll never live. Certain things are afforded to me that you will never have. Which, by the way, you won't. Even the richest kid in America doesn't have a laminator at home. Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I would venture. That's pretty fucking cool. You've got to be part of a public institution to have access. Yes, that's right. It was basically the only upside of working in public education was occasional access to things like that. Yeah. He was never your teacher though. Absolutely not. Never. He was a head teacher and I was vehemently opposed to attending his school when I was 13 years old. I remember once playing his school, I think we had a rugby game against
Starting point is 00:18:03 them and I was playing in the second row of the scrum. So you're kind of locked in together. I remember hearing one of the other kids say, that's your Mr. Oliver's son, aren't you? And I spoke fast enough that I said yes. And I felt a fist fly underneath. And I thought, this is why, this is why I chose a different school. By the way, I like that you verified something I've long thought,
Starting point is 00:18:29 which is it is possible in a rugby scrum to have a conversation like that. A hundred percent possible. It's almost weird not to have a conversation because you're there for a while. Your heads are right next to each other. So it would almost be weird to say, not to, hey, how's everything going? Do you think this game will be over soon?
Starting point is 00:18:45 It doesn't feel like any of us are good enough at this for this to be safe. Did you enjoy playing rugby? That does not seem... I hated it. I hated it. I absolutely hated it. I love football and hated rugby with a deep, deep passion.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I played Pop Warner football one year and I should note it's Josh's fault. Can I tell why I ended up playing football, Josh, and you didn't? Yeah, sure. Are you talking about American football now?
Starting point is 00:19:09 American football. Yeah. Josh wanted to play football and we, every Sunday we would go out, my brother and I and my dad, and we would play one-on-one football where my dad would be the quarterback
Starting point is 00:19:18 and we would have a grand old time. Really fun. I looked forward to it a great deal. Then Josh decided he wanted to play organized football. I'm two years older and I'm like, well, if he's going to play, I'm going to play. So we go to our first day of Pop Warner football, and they ask you to strip down your underwear so they can size you up for pads. And then, Josh, do you want to say what happened?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, well, you know when you have a cup, like you want to wear a cup when you're playing a contact sport, and there's an athletic supporter that the cup goes in. So it's sort of like a strap-like thing. Now, I didn't know that's an athletic supporter that the cup goes in. So it's sort of like a strap like thing. Now I didn't know that with an athletic supporter, you should also wear underwear. So I was just wearing something that looked sort of like lingerie in a way, aggressive lingerie. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:58 there's no way I'm taking my pants off with my little, I don't know, 10 year old butt cheeks out in the wind. So I'm going to walk up this hill, and I'm going to cry, and I'm going to sit next to this school, and I'm going to wait for practice to be over, and then I'm going to not play football. Basically what happened, John, is I did not realize this. I took off because I was wearing underwear. I took off my pants. I got sized up. They put pads on me. I went out, played a whole practice, had no idea that Josh had walked into the changing tent, found out you had to take your pants off, turned around,
Starting point is 00:20:29 told my mommy quit, got in the car and waited. And so then I got back in the car and then we went home and I told my dad, well, I want to quit too. And my dad basically gave me this long speech about not being a quitter, completely ignoring the fact that Josh had like self-quit based on forgetting to wear underwear as a 10-year-old. And so I played a whole season of Pop Warner football, the worst year of my life. I remember we were playing in the state championship to go to the New England finals.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And our star running back, I barely played, but I was on the bench. And our star running back fumbled. And everybody on our team was so despondent. And I was low-key the happiest I think I had been my entire 12-year-old life. I was so happy. When we got on the bus, I was so happy that was the end of it. I would infuriate a sports teacher because the beauty of being in the scrum is you can just stay in there.
Starting point is 00:21:16 When the ball comes out, if you want to, you can just stay there for a little bit. You can kind of just hide in a large mass of people. I remember once getting the ball, running as fast as I could and thinking, I don't know why I did this, but Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were very big at the time. Sure. And I just yelled cow-bunga while I was running. And I remember he blew the whistle, stopped the game, brought me over, grown up angry with me, with a 13-year-old and said,
Starting point is 00:21:43 I don't think you're taking this seriously. And I said, definitely seriously. And I said, I'm definitely not. And he said, go and stand on the side. And like you, Josh, I felt like,
Starting point is 00:21:52 I think I won this exchange. I think you think you won. I think I outmaneuvered you in this. Yeah. Go stand and not participate. Done. Yeah. I remember a football coach grabbing me very similar. John grabbing me by the face mask and screaming into my helmet,
Starting point is 00:22:06 how badly do you want this? And wanting to say, I got to be honest, based on the differences in our tone, I think I wanted a fraction as much as you do. And yet the thing is, so that was my relation with rugby. With football, how badly I wanted that was so badly. Oh, yeah. So badly, and I just couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That was me in baseball. I wanted to play baseball so bad. And Josh was better at baseball. Yeah, I played in high school. There was a trip that I didn't get to go on because, yeah, I had to stay back and play for the team. And then you had a friend just, like, take my plane ticket. It was back in the day when it was like,
Starting point is 00:22:42 we're just going to say that Alex Wilshire is josh and yeah oh there was a just a random child wow we are truly pre-911 at this point they can just stow away a child massively pre-911 yeah it was like yeah this is our other son and people were like okay great fine it's a son that's fine yeah um wow i will say also in my in my defense on the underwear thing oh good a defense yeah i think prior to going to get like the pads and the pants i had gone to try on helmets and in my mind there was no such thing as a comfortable football helmet so they'd like put one on and i'd say yeah this is uncomfortable and then i'd try another one i'd say it's uncomfortable truth is they're all going to be uncomfortable. And the coach said the problem was that I had a geek head and that my head was just
Starting point is 00:23:32 shaped in a way that the helmet wouldn't be comfortable because of my geek. I think that's also very pre 9-11 to tell a kid they have a geek head. Yeah. What was his solution for that geek head? It was like, we're going to order you another helmet. We're going to order you a rounder helmet. The same sports teacher who got mad at me, I remember I used to play in the school orchestra as well,
Starting point is 00:23:57 which meant that I would go from football practice to orchestra practice with mud and blood on me. And then I would go from orchestra practice to sports practice with mud and blood on me and then i would go from from orchestra practice to sports practice with a violin case i remember one time this guy this very large man i was like last out of the showers everyone had gone and uh he closed the door before i walked out and he said is that a violin case oliver i said yeah it is but let's not do this. And he said, can I have a go? I used to play the violin. He opened it and put this child-sized instrument in his big sausage hands, and he started to play.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And it was clearly a very vulnerable moment for him, and I cannot overstate just how appalling the sound he made was. He played, I swear this is true, three blind blind mice that's what he squawked his way through and then he gave it back to me and he said let's never speak of this ever again great and you're great at that you're one of the classic never speak of this oh yeah i keep a tight ship real cone of silence me hey was your did was your dad understanding when you did he appreciate why you did not want to go to his school he did i think he was disappointed because he by the time i could have gone there it was a better school and i went to quite i went to our local school that was pretty rough
Starting point is 00:25:17 um but i was much happier there than i would have been as the headmaster's son which i think would have defined my life at that point. I want to go back to your two weeks in, what was the name of the town again? Dawlish. Dawlish? Dawlish, D-A-W, not Daw like walking through it. Dawlish. Dawlish, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Okay, Dawlish. Dawlish Devon. So where do you stay when you go to Dawlish? What's a seaside hotel situation? Well, that hotel will be made of fabric. That's good for the rain. We camped. We camped every year.
Starting point is 00:25:52 This is a campsite situation. Oh, you actually camped for two weeks? Two weeks. Two human weeks. Oh, wow. Not two dog weeks. Two human weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Are you a two-tent family? Are you a one-tent family? Great question. We are a one-tent family with two bedrooms. Now, bedroom, again, you're talking about just a piece of cloth to separate it. So, yeah, it's a larger tent with a living room area. Again, I'm not sure that you're picturing the right thing when I describe it. And then two, like two smaller compartments.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Okay. Yeah. And do you look forward to this? When you're young, is this awesome? Yeah. Great. Yeah, I think it's the best. It's the only vacation I know.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I think looking back now, it's one of those situations where you have kids, you cannot fathom how hard work that must have been for my parents. At the time, it felt like everything comes together i suddenly don't remember the tent going up right yeah do you remember an age where you realized i don't like this trip anymore or did that never happen that is a good question i think i think it was phased out because i think that things started opening up because we were doing this before like cheap flights to europe so i think right now it might be different.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Like you're kind of with the EU. Well, Brexit's kind of destroyed that. But it was for a while it was very, very easy to move around Europe. So people would take European holidays a lot. We had one camping holiday in France as well. That was kind of testing what that would be like. What would something be like that wasn't Dawlish? And I believe if I'm right, the next year we went back to Dawlish.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So that should be your answer. It was just a little too outside of the comfort zone? It was like, this is a little too cosmopolitan. Right. It's too French. So your parents, your dad's an educator, and your mom is a social worker, was a social worker? Is that right?
Starting point is 00:27:42 No, he was a social worker, then an educator. She was a music teacher. So she was an educator as well. But they did not think vacation should be cosmopolitan or educational. It seemed like it was... I don't think it was really an option. I don't think they were against it. I think we just
Starting point is 00:27:58 went there because we knew what it was like. And it was fun. Remember, I watched the Mexico 86 World Cup and that campsite. Maradona running around, getting kicked by Germans. And I would imagine that's a wonderful memory. Yeah, definitely. Watching little Maradona get kicked by a German.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Yeah, definitely. Did you have friends that you would see from year to year? No, I don't remember that. I remember playing a lot of football outside, but I don't remember the camp. I think I was too young for it to be like a social hub. I picture you also, and again, but again, I've been a little bit wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:36 If you just said, does John Oliver Strikey was a guy who during a rugby game would run out of a scrum yelling cowabunga, I would have guessed no. So maybe I don't, I'm not clocking you right. Were you the kind of kid that would bring a book on a vacation? I mean, definitely. I just can't remember the book. Yeah, of course. But that was part of it as well.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's sort of reading. Yes, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Vacation world of your mind. Yeah, that's right. Your imagination is basically, that's right. You know, I don't like the beach much either. And I think we would go on a lot of Florida vacations.
Starting point is 00:29:01 That was our dollish. And a lot of it was just reading on the beach for me. Yeah. You got, again, you have to not to keep putting a wedge between these references, but a British beach can be hostile. This isn't like a place that you would, you know, lie out and relax. This is a place where you'd be leaning into the wind. Right. You're enduring something. You're kind of, it's exfoliating your face. Whenever I think of those British seaside towns,
Starting point is 00:29:34 it's like an episode of Cracker or Prime Suspect where there's been a murder. And it's just walking down those long piers where that's the last person who saw the girl alive is at the end of the pier. I can tell you there is definitely Smuggler's Cove, I believe was the beach that we went to a lot growing up. You're definitely getting some bodies there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Well, I mean, they're not hiding it with the name Smuggler's Cove. They're not. And yeah, Brighton, which has a rock beach, like it inflicts pain, that beach. Yeah. That definitely has a general vibe, which is, Sarge, we found another one. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yes. There's also those, and I feel like this might be Blackpool, the sort of... Yes, Blackpool Illuminations. You know, sort of a Ferris wheel with, a gray Ferris wheel with birds just sort of circling itpool illuminations uh you know sort of a ferris wheel with a gray ferris wheel with uh birds just sort of circling it yes that's right that was the other place we would go
Starting point is 00:30:31 to a bunch because my parents my family's from liverpool blackpool and morgan beach is where you would go there so yeah we went to blackpool a lot as well that's again you're in morrissey song territory there every day is like sunday did you ever, as a family, did you ever visit the States? Yes. Once. I went when I was 12 years old. So that would be, actually, that would be when I think the camping stopped for me. I went to Canada on my own to visit my auntie.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Okay. Then I did grade eight in Canada. And while we were there, we flew to Disney World in Orlando. And it was incredible. I'd never been to a regular before and didn't go back until I came here to work. Amazing it was. So the first place you ever went in the US was Disney World? Orlando, Florida, Disney World as a I will say as a 13 year old you get to go
Starting point is 00:31:27 they've done it they kind of did it yeah everything you'd read everything you'd heard about the US was true they wrote check
Starting point is 00:31:34 they wrote checks that they cashed emphatically yeah have you gone back with your children to Disney World
Starting point is 00:31:42 no not yet I wasn't sure what age would be right. I feel like... But you will do it. Absolutely, I will do it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Colin Jost goes every year and has continued to go every year with his family into adulthood. I want our listeners to know John is making exactly the face you are making upon hearing this. Yeah, whatever face you're making, homie, it's a version of it.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I think I've probably cycled through about three of them. I think I've done... No, you were surprised by me playing rugby and shouting cowabunga. I feel like you were less surprised than I am that Colin Jost, as an adult, went to Disney World every year. With his family. I don't know. It's changed the way I think about it.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah. So I agree. I think the key is you can't go. Every year. If you go too soon. Every year. Every year. If you go too soon, you might never go back.
Starting point is 00:32:31 So you got to wait. Right. Until you see the whites of their eyes, so to speak. That's it. You take your kids. Yeah. You don't want to normalize it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Right. When I used to do stand up, I used to love Orlando Airport as someone who wasn't married or had kids because as you were landing you would see just how angry the kids were being taken away and you kind of empathize with why would you have shown me this and then fly back to that shit life we have they were just true fury from a kid why, I would rather not have known this place existed. Yeah. Than you open and then shut the door in my face.
Starting point is 00:33:11 So you're 12 years old. You fly internationally alone, by yourself. Yes, alone. To a busy event. Yeah. Was that, were you at that age, was that scary at all? Or were you excited about that? I think that might have been my first time on a plane as well.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Wow. I think it was, I think it was probably very scary. But they would do a thing where it was me and there was another girl who was flying unattended on the flight. They came to get us before the flight landed and walked us to the front of the plane. So I remember that might have been all the monitoring they were doing. But I think I got a sticker like young flyer with a cartoon plane with a happy face. And then you went back for a whole year? You spent a whole year?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah, I did grade eight in Canada. How was that? Fantastic. Yeah, I loved it. Because I would find that to be a very strange. Certainly eighth grade in American schools is not one you would want to go away for. Feels like your last year with your middle school friends before you go off to high school. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That's what it was. With the oldest kids in the middle school. Yeah, at Winston Churchill Public School. That's fantastic. So you probably, they probably let you in for free. Well, I believe. I'm not even sure I registered.
Starting point is 00:34:18 You just walk in the birthday and say, I think I'm sitting here as Winston would have wanted. And so you went in cold. You didn't know anybody. And why was it such a great year? Because I think it was just like having your horizons just completely expanded. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Realized that it was kind of nice to be a fish out of water. I loved it there. Right away? Pretty much right away, yeah. I really, really liked it. And to the point they felt a little weird going back. Where in Canada was it? Kingston.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Kingston, Ontario. Just down the road from Toronto. Yeah, I think I've been there. So as a family, when you travel, and obviously you have these 10 vacations, were your parents pretty chill on vacations? Did anybody get temperamental? We had wonderful family vacations, but I should note, part of, I think, every trip my dad came fully undone at least once what does fully undone look like it's like yelling
Starting point is 00:35:10 at a table yeah the famous story the famous story john is that we were in a hotel and my dad bumped his leg on a coffee table and he turned he got low the ground, shook his fist at it and cursed. And everybody in the lobby looked at him. Do you think that might actually be the best case scenario? Like something or someone's going to get it. Actually, it's good that it's this table. That was all fine. The weird part was he got in the elevator and my mom basically called him out for it. And he very calmly explained that the table had hurt him and he wanted to hurt the table. Turnabout is fair play, John.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'm sure you know. As if we hadn't understood. You described him as shaking his fist at the table. So he struck the table. No, no, no. I think his whole argument was he had shown incredible restraint by not hitting the table. Because he did not hurt the table. He didn't.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I see. He shook his fist, yeah. He just wanted to emotionally scar the table. He gave it a stern talking to. Yeah, that's right. He let that table know how close it had come. You rickety pile of wood. So were your parents calm? Did they get along
Starting point is 00:36:26 on vacations? I think they were pretty calm, but I cannot fathom how they were because they had four kids under seven. There were four of you? There's four of us. When you had said four, I thought it was two of you and your parents. No, six
Starting point is 00:36:42 of us. Four kids. One of the oldest. And boys, girls, what do you have? your parents so there's and how what six of us four kids four kids and and boys girls what how what do you have two boys then two girls all right and you all i mean now this is i'm glad you said this because now this tent just got well it didn't get any bigger in my head it just got more crowded and it didn't get bigger in real life either just the units inside it have increased substantially. How did the four of you get along on vacations? The kids? At that point, the girls were very small. Okay. So how does a child get on with a baby? I think the answer is fine. Yeah. What's the gap between you and your youngest sibling? It's like two and a half between me and my brother, two and a half between my brother and
Starting point is 00:37:24 the older sister and then one year yeah to the farm so that is a big gap when you're a kid that's yeah huge but i really i know i have so much more respect i started with respect for your parents but this is massive now i think that's what i'm gradually coming around to with two i i struggle to get my head around how you're handling three. But four feels like, I don't know where the reserves come from to handle that and to not physically attack a table for doing nothing to you. I wouldn't have blamed your dad for just lunging at a table as he walked past it. I mean, I think if my dad had had four kids, he would have burned that hotel to the ground. All right, one more question now,
Starting point is 00:38:08 knowing it's a full six Olivers. What is the transport? When you all pile into the car in your pajamas... One car, Mitsubishi Space Wagon. Oh, yeah. How could it be anything else? That does not sound like what a British family would drive, a Mitsubishi Space Wagon.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I think we had a Renault before then. And then it was a Mitsubishi space wagon. Yeah. Did you have grandparents that were in the picture that were there to sort of help out with all you? No, they were in the picture, but they weren't there to help out on a case like that. That was very much you're on your own. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Were they nearby? You never had to like take a trip to see them, right? They were nearby? Yeah, they were in Liverpool and they were in Banbury outside Oxford. So we would occasionally vomit our way through a car journey to get there. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Did you have the kind of grandparents you were excited to see or did it feel like a duty? Yes, I did. I did. That's good. I went to see my mom's mom. She lives in Southport at the end of her life.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Again, it's just towards the coast in Liverpool. And they're a family from Knotty Ash in Liverpool. And it was famous, Knotty Ash, for producing this one comedian, Ken Dodd. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. No. Oh, yeah. Google him now. Google him.
Starting point is 00:39:22 He's an odd-looking man. And he would tell jokes with feather dusters, and he would dust people. So he was like the Sandman at the Apollo, but with the dust. Yes, a little bit, actually. That's not actually the worst one-to-one. Oh, my God. Oh, everybody at home, go Google Ken Dodd.
Starting point is 00:39:41 This paid off great. Think about the whitest imaginable Sandman with two cleaning products that he would invade your body space with. Based on just a quick Google image search, I would say a lot
Starting point is 00:39:52 of his comedy came from making his hair look very unkempt. That was, I think, to put it mildly, part of it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:01 So Doddy, as everybody knew him, absolute superstar. He was also famously, his origin story, he was a tinker. He Doddy, as everybody knew him, absolute superstar. He was also famously, his origin story, he was a tinker. He would go house to house selling pots and pans. That was before he became a kind of nationally famous comedian. And I remember I was doing gigs in Liverpool and I went to see her one day and she was in the old folks' home and she said,
Starting point is 00:40:24 you're a comedian now are you kid uh you know you know i knew doddy you know when he was a young man and uh he's i remember he sold me this one pan he said barb if you buy this you will never need to buy another pan your entire life and then she reached under her bed and brought out a pan and said, and I never did. And I cannot tell you how much she needed to buy a pan two years after she bought that pan. It looked dangerous.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It's like lead paint flaking off it, holes in it. I'm not sure this is really legally a pan anymore. the best thing about that is it's a story about a comedian named dotty but my takeaway is that your grandmother was an incredible prop comedian oh god she was amazing that's the setup to that that's like a monty python sketch of i i never needed another pan and you pull out a... Not as much of a Monty... I can't remember if I ever told you this. She got into trouble for getting into a fight in her old people's home one day
Starting point is 00:41:31 because she would walk around in a nightie with the door open and this one other old woman who didn't like her and lived opposite kind of came towards her one day waggling a walking stick, saying, you've got to put on some clothes. And she grabbed the walking stick, pulled it towards her and clocked her i remember i believe there was a meeting of the families after that i also don't know if i'm rooting for what was under her bed to be just like everything she owned or just that one pan right it was definitely at hand. It was definitely, it was a weird thing
Starting point is 00:42:07 to never bring up until that point. I'd been a comedian for a while at that point. Also, as a kid, I clearly liked comedy. Maybe she'd been waiting for the right moment
Starting point is 00:42:15 to know I can make this story really land here. I just need this pan to decay six more years. Or she heard you were coming and went down to the kitchen and said, give me your oldest pan. That's right. this idiot's so in love with the narrative he'll just drink it right up
Starting point is 00:42:30 if it's got a punch line trust me he'll tell it he'll tell it for years he'll tell it for years give a shiny object at the end of it and he'll eat it up have your parents made a habit of coming to visit you since you have moved to the states do they take a lot of trips to come see you they have they came to see your show you know i heard they were there and i was hoping to see them and then i i feel like i missed my opportunity they they came here there's the last time they said this is very british parenting they said we'd love to see a show and i mistakenly thought they were talking about my show oh you can come yeah of course you can go and oh but
Starting point is 00:43:10 you know maybe um colbert or seth maybe we could go see one of theirs okay and then i said actually i'm on seth tomorrow you could come you could come to that with that that'd be great so i afterwards i said what did you think and he went was amazing. It really felt like watching a TV show. He's like, ouch, ouch, ouch a little bit there. And then I said, would you like to go again? He went, yeah, I'd love to go next time, maybe when there is, and I quote, a real guest. Now, John, I should say, I was told Henry, our producer, told me your parents were coming. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And I just credit to you, I was a little bit more nervous. I've never met your parents, but I was a little more nervous that night knowing your parents were there. Okay. Yeah. They did ask, they said, can we put a camera on your parents in the audience? I said, absolutely not. Yeah. My mom would be so angry if you did that meanwhile I
Starting point is 00:44:08 always say you can't put a camera on my dad unless you mic him because he will start talking I think that's right I think they are they are the opposite of your parents especially your dad who yes I think is assumes a camera at all times is Is he always camera ready? He is, yeah. He's always, I mean, he's always talk ready. He's always ready to talk, I would say. You know the great thing, I don't know if I've told you about how every now and then they'll say,
Starting point is 00:44:36 someone will say, oh, your dad's friends are here at the show tonight. Will you say hi afterwards? And then I'll go back in the green room and I'll start talking to these people. And I'll say, how do you know my dad? And'll say oh i was golfing with him and he told me you were his son and asked if i ever wanted to go see a show like just literally just a person he met on a golf course wow so not so much a friend as someone he briefly met. Yeah, in passing, he briefly met.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And you could argue he didn't even do me a solid because people don't have to buy tickets to my show. That's right. And he's throwing in a meat and grease as well. Well, they're billed as Larry's friends. So I feel like Sethh feels like well i should i think my dad my dad would make the argument that he is a friend to all so all of god's creatures stretching language there to uh to his own ends what's the perfect vacation i mean
Starting point is 00:45:38 your kids are young but what do you like to do with them on a family trip i would not drive in a car with them for four hours and camp for two weeks i don't have the internal strength right what i like to do with them i do not like a beach yeah so i need to have things to do like a child you could say i yeah then and i need activities right so we uh the last time we were on a beach, we did a treasure hunt. That was really good, really fun. You can stretch that out. Pirate outfits, maps.
Starting point is 00:46:14 There goes half a day. The planning is most of it. It went by faster than I think I'd planned. I broke my toe on a shell. Yeah. Classic pirate move. You know pirates. Never really looking beneath their feet. Have you taken them, I'm assuming you've traveled with your kids back to England.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Do they travel well on that? The younger one hasn't been. The five-year-old hasn't been. We haven't been since COVID. Gotcha. The other one, he went when he five-year-old hasn't been. We haven't been since COVID. Gotcha. The other one, he went when he was two years old back to London. And that was great.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Do they have it in their minds? They're like, we want to do this for vacation. And then how much are those opinions weighted? Oh, I see. Do they have any say? Yeah. Is it like, we want to go to Dallas? And you're like, why are you thinking you want to go to Dallas? We want to go to Dallas.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I want to see the book depository. What? Excuse me? There was a second shooter. I just don't understand. Is it a library? That's my question. Have you been to the book depository?
Starting point is 00:47:22 I have not. No. I went. Kumail Nanjiani and I went. Yeah. And I remember we went there. We were doing a gig there. And I remember you get to the window.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And I remember looking down and thinking, oh, you could totally shoot him from here. In my head, I'd always thought it was much, much further away and it was impossible. But you're kind of looking down and going, oh yeah, definitely. So you just sort of eliminated any sort of second shooter from your mind? I think it kind of eliminated the second shooter. You look, yeah, it was just, it changed the way I thought about it.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Also, they had Xs in the road. This seemed very ghoulish. Xs in the road where the bullets had hit and people were getting, taking selfies in the road next to the X's and this is very much an active road it was a it was odd it was an odd tourist attraction but it was interesting to go I'm very impressed I know uh some stand-ups who go on the road and when they get to a city they will go and do something whereas I feel like every time I go on
Starting point is 00:48:22 the road I just sit in the hotel room and sweat about the fact that I have to do a show that night. But our friend Brooks Whelan, who I know opens for you and is open for me, Brooks Whelan is on SNL. I've done a few shows with him. You've done many. But everywhere we show up, he just walks out the door of the hotel and I feel like spends eight hours in the city
Starting point is 00:48:42 and then just rolls in five minutes before the show starts. He's a great travel companion because he's activity-based. So it's very good because he can get me out of the hotel room, which very few people can. Because otherwise I will just be in a hole. Josh is going to ask you some questions. Yeah. We don't know what the name of this segment is. I know we've been asking you a lot of questions, but these are questions we're going to ask you some questions. Yeah. This is, we don't know, we don't know what the name of this segment is. I know we've been asking you a lot of questions,
Starting point is 00:49:06 but these are questions we're going to ask everybody. These are, we're into a theme part. We're into it. This is a theme part of the show that deserves a name that we don't have for it yet. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:14 If you could take a vacation with any family other than your own, what family would you like to go on vacation with? Living or dead? But if dead, living, right? Yes, they'd be living while you go on vacation with? Living or dead? But if dead, living, right? Yes, they'd be living while you're on vacation with them. You don't have to. I would like, yeah, it's not like the bones of Benjamin Franklin.
Starting point is 00:49:34 That's right. George I, I think. A whole family. And it's got to be a whole family. Yeah, it's like a family that you'd love to spend some time with and be like, oh, that seems like a great family. And it's got to be a whole family. Yeah, it's like a family that you'd love to spend some time with and be like, oh, that seems like a great family. Oh, it seems like a great family. Not that this would be a car crash,
Starting point is 00:49:52 but a truly unforgettable vacation. Well, it depends what you're into. It's whatever you enjoy most on vacation. That's such a good question. I would... And one more clarification here. Do fictional families count? I think so.
Starting point is 00:50:06 We'll allow it. We'll allow it. You're answering this question like a kid at a spelling bee who's not even in the ballpark for how to spell the word. Chthonic. And by family, they're all related? That is such a fair hit. Your word is chthonic. Chthonic.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Could you use it in a sentence? Not in a way that's going to help you. No, I can't, actually. I should, but I won't. Yeah. I would say... You know what? I would go with Mo Salah and his family.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Oh, Mo Salah, the Liverpool footballer. Okay, great. Because it seems like a good family. Oh, Mo Salah, the Liverpool footballer. Okay, great. Because he seems like a good family. Was Mo Salah the one who, when you went to a Liverpool game, recognized you not from last week tonight, but from a different... Was that who it was? That was Virgil van Dijk.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Oh, Virgil van Dijk. The Dutch defender. One of my favorite stories. People like John and I, we assume we're the same age as professional athletes and the reality is we are the age of their parents if we're lucky at this point. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:12 He said, you're that guy from The Lion King. And I went, oh, that's an amazing thing to know. And I think that might be all you know about. And then he went back to talking to Trevor Noah about watches. Watches that I'd never heard of before. I Googled them after the fact.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Richard Mille, they were called. I didn't know of a Richard Mille watch. They're basically what a billionaire child would like. All right. So Mo Salah and his family. Yeah, I'll go with Mo Salah and his family. Because that would be really good for me. And I actually think it would be good for the family fact but i would have a lot to talk to mo about
Starting point is 00:51:47 i don't think he would have a great time that's okay it's this isn't about fine this is about you picked it and we're gonna make it work yes um this one i think probably a little easier uh but if your ideal vacation would you be relaxing would it be adventurous enlightening or educational not relaxing i can't relax on vacation so yeah i've never been able to do that so that's a disaster i get more tense that's why i can't lie on a beach without your wife relax yeah she's pretty good at it but i think she realized i think she accepted defeat early on i i remember the exact, but we went to St. Thomas, our first like calming vacation. And I remember lying down, like exhaling twice and then sitting up again. I can't do this. That was my first attempt. And it was like a panic attack. I got to read something or listen
Starting point is 00:52:39 to something or move somewhere. This is not going to work. So the best vacation we went to was Rome. Lots to do. Go to the Vatican. You can go to the Colosseum. You can walk around. It was spectacular. Spectacular. Rome was incredible.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So yes, somewhere where there is, it sounds awful, but probably an educational thing. Something where you're learning. That's not awful. Now we're in line with what I think our listeners expect from john that he would like an educational that's what i would find relaxing the cowabunga kid is all grown up and he's asking where where did the vatican steal this artwork from oh yes they were like we're not we don't do that kind of education
Starting point is 00:53:23 it's walking through the vatic. You do think you did it. You did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to tell everyone. You're going to tell everyone. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:31 They did it. And then instead of hiding it in the cave, they sell tickets to let people look at it. And as a British person, generationally, you respect that so much. It's the sheer balls of, well, finders keepers, losers visitors. Enough time has passed that, you know what? what we're gonna do it in a museum yeah you can come and look you can come look if you pre-book
Starting point is 00:53:53 and i'd advise pre-booking if you're traveling would you prefer to travel by plane train automobile prefer to travel by plane train automobile boat or on foot let's scratch that last one on foot okay yeah let's lose on foot i don't think we heard we remember what happened when you're trying yeah you shelled your toe pirate toe that toe was replaced by a cork tiny cork it's tiny cork toe i didn't even make it to the high seas. I think I do like trains. Yeah, trains are great. Yeah, I think I'd always pick a train. If you were stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:54:44 I'm going to go with my littlest sister, Claire. She is a spectacular baker. Oh, there you go. That's very smart. So assuming there's high-end ingredients on this desert island, I'd see why there wouldn't be, then we're going to eat pretty well. Excellent. I like that.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I first thought it was sort of affectionate towards Claire, and it was really just that she could feed you. And so that took a very hard right turn. And I hope I'm pronouncing this right. You're from Erdington in the West Midlands? Erdington, Birmingham, yeah. It's an area of Birmingham. Now, you're from there, so you wouldn't go on vacation there.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Do you recommend that as a vacation destination? No. Okay. No, like, vehemently. Not even as a joke. I almost bought into the bit. But I would not want anybody to make the mistake of thinking, well, he said there was something to see.
Starting point is 00:55:38 No, do not go to Erdington for a holiday. Is there a website even that says visit Erdington? Have they made an effort to make it a place for people to come? Unless that website leads to text just saying, no, we were kidding. Don't do that. Let me just see it. Visit Erdington.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Is that something? Is there a human being? Is there a tourist? Is it Nabi? It goes right to Nabi? Oh, oh. Erdington, England. Best places to visit. The McTonnie's Suite Emporium.
Starting point is 00:56:09 That feels like you're in a chapter of Harry Potter. Or Wonka. I'm not sure that exists. That's a very Wonka. I feel like that's one of Wonka's competitors. Clay and Play Limited. So the Magnet Center Banqueting Suite in Birmingham. That's the best photo that they have.
Starting point is 00:56:29 And then the Atlantis Fish Bar. So there's an old lady with her eyes closed who's sitting in front of a plate of fish and chips. I think she's imagining she's somewhere else. You don't want to look at this fish. The best photo they have of that fish restaurant is a woman with her eyes closed because she's imagining she wants to be somewhere else. I think so.
Starting point is 00:56:53 This is literally, this is the fifth best place. This is the photo of her. Oh, yeah, she is. She's imagining a better fish bar. And then Seth has the last question for you. It's a two-parter. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? Should I wait for the second part?
Starting point is 00:57:15 No, I realize it's important for you to answer the first part. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? No. Do you have any interest in going? I mean, yes. Really? I did a gig in uh arizona once and i think i couldn't quite make it to the grand canyon and back and meet my flight and i was fine
Starting point is 00:57:35 with that yeah okay it's not going anywhere is it worth it well seth's never been and so i don't want to go i shouldn't say i don't want to go if If Alexi said we're going, we're going to bring the kids and have a good time, I would trust her. Or I shouldn't say I would trust her. I just wouldn't have a choice. But Josh wants to go. Yeah, and I've been, but I had a dog with me. And you can't go below the rim with a dog. So I've just like seen from the southern rim, and I believe the northern rim strikes me as more
Starting point is 00:58:07 interesting because there's going to be fewer people around but I would really want to go in it but you've got a taste of it so so you can you're you seem relatively confident you're not setting your hopes too high I think it would be a different experience sort of being at the bottom and sort of going going down into it I think it has a lot of things that I think I would be a different experience sort of being at the bottom and sort of going down into it. I think it has a lot of things that I think I would like and not a lot of things that I think Seth would like. Seth just said I shouldn't say I don't want to go, but he has said I don't want to go on every one of these podcasts that we've done so far. Let me rephrase that. I don't want to go.
Starting point is 00:58:39 There it is. Yeah, I think I don't want to go. I think if you said to me, do you want to go to the grand canyon or mount rushmore more i would say grand canyon but we're in it we're sophie's choice situation here when with sophie not really liking either of her kids because one of the kids has four heads i'm gonna just keep working out this now so yeah i wouldn't i think i'm think i'm supposed to i'm supposed to be in Phoenix. I don't know if I've got time to.
Starting point is 00:59:10 You can get there from Phoenix, right? Yeah, but it's a bit of a drive. Yeah, I don't think I'm going. I'm going to guess it's like three hours. I don't know that for sure, but yeah. The one real trip, the one real big diversion I went on was to go see the Taj Mahal. I went to interview the Dalai Lama and came back and it was like drive there, see it, go around, drive back to the airport. It was quite a long drive. That was worth it. Really? All right. That's good to know.
Starting point is 00:59:36 It's pretty amazing. I think I'm confident of two things. The Taj Mahal is worth visiting at almost any inconvenience. And don't go to Erdington. It's fine. Great. The reverse hall. Yeah, if it's a choice between the Atlantis Fish Bar in Erdington and the greatest monument to love ever built by man. Can we take that photo of the eyes closed lady
Starting point is 01:00:01 and just put like a thought bubble and put the Taj Mahal in it? We take that photo of the eyes closed lady and just put like a thought bubble and put the Taj Mahal in it. She was closing her eyes. She saw that janky fish and then just was like, oh, somewhere there's this. There's a beautiful building. If you really loved your wife, you'd build her a mausoleum out of translucent marble, not bring her to a fish bar every Wednesday. I think that's what she was thinking john it has been so lovely to talk about when i feel like we had a see you i hope all british people will realize you can talk about the past and it's not you know well we don't know that um we're not
Starting point is 01:00:36 going to end this and i'm not going to have some kind of uh emotional crisis that's true hey you have a bunch of stand-up shows this summer i want to mention real quick. I do, yeah. And what is it? All of a sudden you have all this free time. Yeah, it's great. I'm very excited. We're going to be doing the Beacon Theatre in New York City. Someone, I will say, Seth, just, you might, I was on an elevator and my, did I tell you this? My, someone was getting off the elevator and said, oh, you must be nice to get this extra vacation time.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Oh, man. And I was so angry, I went after them, and my wife pulled me back in and goes, no, no, no, no, no, no. Actually, no, it's very difficult. There's a lot of things to worry about right now. But there are. I'm just going to, anybody who wants John tickets, Durham, North Carolina, Nashville, Denver, Phoenix, Atlanta,
Starting point is 01:01:27 Beacon Theatre in New York City, Austin, and in Boston, Massachusetts. I won't be going to the Grand Canyon after the Phoenix date. If anybody's turning up to that date thinking there's going to be a bus outside, Andy Kalpin would do it to drive it into the Grand Canyon. That's not going to happen. The more Josh talked about it, the more I think, I don't care. You're never going to go.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Hey, I want to try this question for our guests as well. Is there a piece of your past work at any part of your career that you feel like didn't get the attention it deserved that you'd like to plug real quick? Have people go back and take a look at? You've already plugged The Lion King.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Yeah. You were at Smurfs, right? Weren't you in, were you a Smurf voice? I was a Smurf voice. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there's a tone in your voice that I don't feel particularly comfortable with. How are you supposed to say, were you in the Smurfs? It's an impossible sentence.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I was a Smurf. I was a Smurf. And you seem to be, you're saying that as in a challenging way. Were you the Smurf we all think you were? Which one do you think I was? Brainy? Yeah, Brainy would be my guess. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I was not. I was Vanity Smurf. Really? With the flower behind his ear and the mirror. Interesting. Yes. You're right. They went a different way.
Starting point is 01:02:39 They went with a kind of, apparently the British accent is narcissistic enough that they felt, oh, this is perfect. Oh, yeah. I guess Brainy being British would be be weird who was brainy spurf do you know i don't know i haven't seen it do you guys get together though i don't know like the smurf cast here is here's where i got really busted on that i remember doing smurfs too because uh if you did the first one you had to do the second one. And I went in for the recording for it, and they were playing in Papa Smurf. And I went, is that Jonathan Winters?
Starting point is 01:03:11 You got Jonathan Winters for this? And they said, yeah, he's in the first film too. I went, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, you got him again. It's great. It's a great movie. Check it out. Well, that's definitely how you want to end it john i will
Starting point is 01:03:27 see you soon yeah thanks for doing this it's a pleasure guys yeah safe travels always the young john oliver and the rest of the ol clan Piled in six deep The Mitsubishi space wagon Drove to Darlish The same trip once again Cross your fingers, Dad None of the kids vomit Puppet Punch says my wife is nagging me
Starting point is 01:04:02 Gonna hit her with a plank Well, that was just the style then Puppet Punch says my wife is nagging me, gonna hit her with a plank. Well, that was just the style then, you could take her to the bank. If you dreamed of sunshine, those dreams they always sank. Anyway, it was a beach and they were on it. John Oliver, he'd play football and read his books And sing along with the Commodores And their funkiest of hooks But don't forget, don't forget
Starting point is 01:04:34 Ugh, that rugby game When he yelled out something So extremely lame Cowabunga dude

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