Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JON M. CHU Became a Local Celebrity At His Family's Los Altos Restaurant: Chef Chu's

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Jon M. Chu joins Seth and Josh on the pod this week! Jon chats all abut growing up in Los Altos, California, the Chinese restaurant his family owns that he grew up working in, his memories of growing up in a family of five with immigrant parents, stories from a trip to France with his mom, how early exposure to technology and video editing shaped his passion for filmmaking, the influences of 'Crazy Rich Asians' and 'Wicked’ on his life, and so much more! Plus, Jon chats about his film, Wicked: For Good, out in theaters November 21, 2025! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 ------------------------- Support our sponsors: Shipt Shipt’s exclusive savings event: Season of Savings, happening from November 16th through December 28th. Shop tons of deals, including member-exclusive savings, all season long. Terms apply. Download the app or order now at Shipt.com Uplift Elevate your workspace with UPLIFT Desk. Go to https://upliftdesk.com/FAMILY for a special offer exclusive to our audience. Fabric Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Apply today in just minutes at meetfabric.com/trips. Policies issued by Western-Southern Life Assurance Company. Not available in certain states. Prices subject to underwriting and health questions. ------------------------- Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. ------------------------- Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen #familytrips #sethmeyers #joshmeyers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Baji Hey, Suvi You're in New York City, buddy I am I got to see you the other night It was really nice You uh, I, Lexi Because you came and met

Us for dinner Me and my wife Our three kids My sister-in-law My other brother-in-law My other brother-in-law And my in-laws And I was talking to Alexi

About how much I liked it But I said it was chaotic And she took events at chaotic But I was like, no, no, no It was like happy chaos Wouldn't you have said That was a good word word for that? Yeah. Chaotic is an apt word for that dinner. But it wasn't, it wasn't,

I get the chaotic sometimes sounds like a negative, but it was like everything you want. It was like a New York City restaurant on a Sunday night. It was a lot of families. It was Italian food. It was plates clattering. I loved every minute of it. Yeah. I mean, it was a, it's a bustling restaurant and I will say the staff at that restaurant was so good at, oh, we forgot to order this. Can we throw in another order of this? Yeah, no, yeah, nobody was angry. They, uh, But, you know, they were just like sweeping plates up and laying plates out. My favorite part was they had, you know, Parmesan cheese to shave over some pastas that the kids had. And your daughter, Addy, kept wanting more and more cheese and got a huge amount of cheese on her pasta.

And then after the waiter had given, like, another table some cheese, she turned around and cupped her hands for him to just grate cheese directly into her hands. And she was thrilled. Yeah. And then she just sort of threw those cupped hands into her mouth. And they also, it was, the waiters had like a real New York waiter vibe. Like, they weren't like overstaying their welcome or anything. It was like a full bustle and he did it. He shaved all this cheese into Addie's hands without ever breaking a smile until he was done.

Yeah. But like to her, he never showed her that he thought it was funny. He was just like. Right. Yeah, no, but it was great. Also, Axel was so excited that you were coming. that he waited outside the restaurant for you. Like, he couldn't...

We showed up, like, four minutes before I told you we were going to be there. And he was like, where is Poshy? He's on his way. He kept making me text you. But he was so happy to see you. It was great. It was raining a little bit.

It was a little bit chilly, but he was, yeah, he wanted to be outside. He was also in a pair of shorts and an Italian biking, a cyclist's jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Classic Axel. Yeah, but he's still at the age where he'll do the run up to you as fast as he can.

And it's, I have no fear about lifting him that it might sort of toss my back out. Pretty close, though. He's getting pretty close. Yeah, he's getting there. But it was great to have you there. And now all four of us, me and the boys, we're going to be jumping on a plane. We're going to be going to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania this weekend. Yeah, to meet up with mom and dad as well.

And to see our floundering Steelers try to save the same. season yeah i said to uh the boys it was like you know because they're going to their first steelers game and i was like they lost because we was you know they played sunday night played terribly and so the steelers lost and ash went that's okay dad maybe they'll win this weekend i'm like man i got to drink whatever whatever you're drinking i would love to have that worldview but maybe i'm going to try to hopefully like let them be our guide and just be like look it's just fun to be with each other yeah yeah yeah because they're gonna like they're gonna i feel like the snacks, the food at the game might be more interesting or as interesting to them as the game

itself. Would it be, would it surprise you to know that that's 99% of the questions they've asked me about the game are food related? Well, they're going to do great. Yep, it's going to be great. I can't wait. Also, Ash is on fourth grade, a camping trip. A two-night, two-night camping trip.

And through his school, kind of can't believe it. I mean, I think every parent who's listening knows that first moment where you're like, you're just kids are, you know, going away and they're so excited about it. That is the best part. Like, he was not trepidacious and I feel like the school did an incredible job

of, like, getting the kids really exciting. Excited. Also, it's cold is shit right now in New York. And they're north of here. And we, like, literally got to report back from a teacher. And, like, not in a bad way, but it was like an email being like, it is very cold and the kids are doing very well but like they weren't sugar coating it and uh they also when uh your uh father-in-law heard that ash was going on this trip at the dinner the other night he's like oh boy i'll say it you be him okay okay all right ash you guys remember ash is going on his big trip tomorrow tomorrow yeah he's going to go camping well it's supposed to be pretty rainy and pretty

cold i don't know you shut him down hard yeah you were like after hearing that story about the cyclone that they wouldn't go on a coney island because he told him how many people died on it yeah which i don't even know if it's real yeah he's he's just making it up or he's the uh or he's the cony island strangler he's trying to blame it he's trying to blame it on the cyclone he's like and then another guy fell off who'd been choked to death had the same telltale sock in his mouth Well, this is John Chu. We talked to John Chu. He's the director of Wicked.

John Chu. Second half of Wicked. And, yeah. Big director. In the Heights. Crazy Rich Asians is probably when people really started knowing this guy was for real. And now two Wicked movies under his belt. And I'm very, every now and then somebody talks about something that I really want to see.

And he was talking about his parents, own a very popular. Chinese restaurant in the Bay Area. Yeah, and I would love to go there. Chef Chuse. I've been to the website since we talked, and yeah, it looks, I've looked at the street view. I've really, I've done some deep digging on Chef Choo's, and I want to check it out. Great. I mean, it's a little creepy that you did Street View.

I wanted to see it. I feel like this disincentivizes our future guests to talk about locations. I know you're going to street view. Yeah. Family restaurant. Legendary family restaurant. Yeah. Yeah. You were like, I, uh, yeah, did I hire a PI to take some picks? Yeah. That's just because I'm excited to go. Um, uh, uh, enjoy the conversation. Thanks for listening. John. What's up, boys.

What is up? How you doing? Very well. We're not normally both dressed in sweaters when we do these podcasts. This is a very special day. I'm pretty sure it's the first time it's ever happened. It's just a cozy fall day with John. How are you, buddy?

Yeah, this is the dad podcast, right? We just talk about dad stuff. It's the dad-as podcast. Well, Josh isn't a dad yet, but you're like a super dad. And I want to just start with what I think is a fascinating fact, if I read it correctly. You are one of five, and then you in turn have five. Yeah, I can't believe it. I can't believe it either.

I'm just not one of five. I'm the youngest of five. So I was surrounded by, I was on a movie set from the very beginning, essentially. I guess that's a really nice thing. The chaos of a movie set is nothing to anybody who's the youngest of five. Yeah, my wife is one of three And she thought that was a lot But like with the five kids running around

I'm so used to mayhem Things break in toys on the grass I mean I guess a lot of most people are But the constant Thing of that is like ridiculous It's interesting You know I only have three But my youngest of three

I basically believe The only job she would want on a film set Is director Because she doesn't She really doesn't want to be told anything And she's very very confident that she can tell us what to do. And so I wonder if that was in your DNA from a young age.

I was always told what to do. I was the youngest. I was in the middle seat all the time. I got shoved at the back when you didn't have to wear seatbelts in the back. And it was crazy. Yeah, I almost died many times. I guess finding your way into a film set was like you're taking the power back. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. They have to sit in the dark and watch what I have to say for two hours. The thing I really can't believe I'm saying is before I had kids, I thought people with five kids don't take this wrong way. we're fucking crazy and now like we have three we're done with three and I really am like man if I started earlier I think I could

have been one of those people with five kids like you know what I mean I like look at my three and I'm like I'm like I'm just like you know I'm just like also once you get past that threshold where you got three it's just like let's just keep rolling it so did it I started late though I started late I started my first kid was 39

oh wow so so I should I could have done it you could have just have to win you still go You still could say. I still could. If you just had enough love in your heart, you could have, yes. Well, did your wife take convincing when you were like, hey, what about five? Or was she the convince her?

I don't think it was necessarily the most planned thing. I think every time we had a baby, I was working on a movie. My first child was right before, well, right during Crazy Rich Asians. And so I missed four months of that pregnancy while I was shooting because she couldn't come to Malaysia. There was Zika and all those risks or whatever. And I got back, the baby was born. And then, so then after, she was in the edit room the whole time. And then after that, it was like, oh, I'm shooting another movie.

And we're like, oh, we want to grow the family. So every movie I've had a baby. And Wicked, I've had three. Wow. Well, my wife's had three. But my wife has been, every time they come out of the baby phase, she's like, I just want a little, I want the little one again. And you're like, yeah, all right.

This isn't a little boo-boo, but it's fine. It is. I mean, that morning when you realize, it's your last little one. I think that's why you keep having it's really hard. Yeah. Well, right now it's really hard because I think we're done, but every time they go out of the next phase and we have a 10-month-old. So I have

an 8, 6, 4, 2, and 10-month-old. And the 10-month-old is just no longer like the little infant. Like, she's like out and about and a member of the family now. And that is really sad. That is really sad to see. I would just think that every time you sign up to do another movie, you have to wonder.

Yeah. Just because that's the way it's been going. historically. Yeah, might as well. It's been working out. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support for family trips comes from Airbnb. Hey, Apache and I, we're about to go to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for a football game. We're bringing my boys. And it was so great to be able to find a property that had enough rooms for all of us. I love staying in a house or an apartment. I like going somewhere I don't live and feeling like I am at home when I get back to where I'm going to sleep that night or spend an afternoon.

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Yeah, great. Yeah, and it went boy, girl, boy, girl, boy. And then mine went girl, boy, girl, girl. Wow. So my mom has predicted every single one and she thinks she's a psychic now. I mean, she must be dining out on that. She's pretty much always right. She's pretty much always right, yeah.

Is she a big, are both your parents still around? Yep, they're around. They have a restaurant, Chinese restaurant, in Palo Alto, California. It's been there for 56 years. And you work there? Did I work there? Do you have to get paid to consider working there? Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

Did I fold napkins? Yes. Did I work the wine fairs in the neighborhood? Yes. Serving Chinese chicken salad? Yes. Did I do my homework in the bar? Yes, but did I get paid? No, never an employee.

What's the restaurant called? It's called Chef Chews. It's sort of an institute. If you go to Stanford, you kind of know it. It's been around. But it's a restaurant that the customers, this is the Silicon Valley in the 80s, early 80s, 90s. And at that time, it was just like people who weren't on the cover of magazines. It was everyone could change the world.

Engineers were king. So everyone coming in were nerds. And you would hear about their new things. They're starting to change the world. and they had heard that, oh, Chef Choo's son was making videos, and they're like, we're working on this, like, digital video cards. Here, take some of our beta cards and stuff. And so those customers, I'm the product of generosity from these customers.

I got these cards. I didn't know how to use them. But I figured it out and got software from Adobe, computers from Apple, Sun Microsystems, and learned how to edit before kids my age knew how to do non-linear editing. And so that gave me a huge advantage of them. That's amazing. That's unbelievable.

And so it also was that just a thing you found yourself too than independent of older siblings, independent of your parents, this desire to make films? Yeah, I mean, you know, with five kids, we're at the TV all the time. We're at the movies all the time. And at that time, you could go by yourself and whatever. So we were, my parents were obsessed with us being in American culture because they came over from Taiwan and they didn't speak a lot.

So they wanted us to feel comfortable. I took tap dance classes for 12 years. I was violin, piano, guitar, drums, saxophone. We went to shows every weekend, whether it was musical season, opera season, ballet season in the city, and TV on. I mean, I'm named Jonathan. My sister's named Jennifer after Jennifer and Jonathan Hart from heart to heart. So it was in our blood. But they were not performers.

I guess a restaurant, you are a performer a little bit. We also have something else in common. we all have our dads are all named Larry and yeah they're Lawrence who go by Larry yeah going through life with the Larry I think is a really cool way to live especially for kids from like the 70s and 80s there were a lot of Larry's out there

there's a lot of Larry's. Does your dad have a great big mustache? He did not have it but he did have the Asian perm when he became successful he got that thing and rock that and he had a yellow Mercedes that was his like first big purchase and he would rock that around the town

My oldest brother's named Larry Jr. And now there's a Larry the third, or they call him LC3. So there's a long line of Larry's now in my family. Our dad was the second Larry, second in a line of Larry's. And I will say I am pretty thankful that he stopped. Yeah, the Larry line. It would have been me. And I don't know if I could handle you.

I don't think there's a late night show in 2025 with Larry as the host. And I don't think any, I don't think the FCC would have to get involved. I don't think like advertisers. Well, the Larry Sanders show was a fictional. That's true. But again, that's different. There you go. Different era.

I think Larry's could thrive in the 90s. That's true. That is true. That is true. My brother Larry was the most popular, though. Everybody wanted to be, they still want to be friends with me so they can be friends with my older brother Larry. Isn't that the party and the thing? It's very much the same with me and Josh.

Like anybody who meets Josh, they have a real like, oh, so he's the draw. But before you go, before you go, Seth, I just want to ask about. about tap dancing. How were you as a dancer? You know, my mom was, there's so many kids that she's driving my sisters to ballet and jazz and whatever, and she's like, you have to take a class. I was like, I'll only do tap, and I won't take it with any girls.

So it was just me. I'm the only guy in the whole studio. My sister would join me sometimes, and I got pretty good. I love that. I mean, there was a kid in our high school who at the talent show, like, it was, no one knew, that he tapped and then he entered and he was so good and I was so jealous and I feel like I would have loved I'd love to be good at tap dancing I think it's just the coolest my I don't know if our style of tap dancing you would have loved but you know we were taught with an old lady

at a piano playing and we're shuffling off to buffalo and all these things and uh my mom would bring would force us to do the talent show for the whole school and she would bring the big board onto the stage and then me and my sister would do it and it was in front of the whole school so it was very embarrassing but we once did me and my shadow and I played the shadow so I'm in this giant black Unitard and my sister is the dancer

and so we tap dance together and she is my sister is very like very afraid of a public speaking like so shy like she cannot she can barely speak in front of people not anymore. Sounds like she should have been the shadow FYI And that day, she got mad at me right before because I was messing around.

And so right before we go on stage, I decided I'm not singing. So I did not sing me and my shadow. And she had to sing it in front of everybody. And I feel guilty for it to this day. I will make it up to her one day. But she had to sing the whole thing by herself. Although it's been a lot of years in the fact that you haven't made it up yet. I wouldn't hold her breath.

It's really taking your sleep time. I mean, you got five kids in like eight movies. so I get it. Wait, this is, and Josh hates when I tell S&L stories, but he did make us go back to the tap dancing. After my first year on S&L, my current producer, Mike Shoemaker, who was a producer at S&L at the time,

came to me and said, so Lauren has a couple of notes of what he wants you to do this summer. One, he wants you to get a trainer so you can, like, work out your shoulders. Like, I guess, like, a lot of my comedy wasn't working because of my slopie shoulders. And then also he wants you to do. take tap dancing lessons and he thinks that'll just help you as a performer and i just remember being like

i'll get the trainer but you never took a tab lessons no and to a josh's point like i think back i'm like man whatever i did that first summer it would have been super cool to be like low-key taking tap dancing lessons and have something in my back pocket because people sometimes at a q and a show will be like what's something you can do that we don't know and i'm like you think i have anything left I have emptied that whole bag of tricks over the course of the last 20 years. But I love tapped. I mean, the group of people that I was around,

those were all dancers. So even though I wasn't naturally a dancer, these were all my friends. And I'm the one with the video camera. So I learned how to shoot dancers because I knew them and rhythm for editing. So it really, I wish I took ballet. I want my kids to take ballet

because I think that would have benefited me a lot in just my posture. So I benefited a lot from that whole experience. That's amazing, that thing of having friends who want you to shoot them and their skill, through your camera, like, sort of giving you the actual talent, too. Yeah, it was definitely my road in. And for my wedding, I hadn't had for 20 years, for my wedding, I was going to bring it out for my wife. So I did it for my wife. She had no idea.

And I got all the step-up dancers because I had done the step-up movies. And so they all were, like, doing it with me. And it was a really fun, fun night. and my thighs hurt for weeks We went to a dancing lesson My wife and I were terrible dancers And we like went to a couple lessons And then the night before our wedding

My wife got really bad food poisoning And she in the end like She made it through and had the great wedding But I remember in the hospital being like Oh I think this means we don't have to do the dance I think we're going to not have to do the dance Your parents are both from Taiwan Yes

I mean, my dad moved from China to Taiwan, my mom's from Taiwan. So they all, and then they all came over here, but they met in the Bay Area. Oh, wow. So there's a whole community of Chinese immigrants, yeah. Did you ever, as a family, go back and visit where they were from? Only once when I was, like, nine years old, and I'm, like, dying to go back with them again, because I haven't been back since. How was that trip then? And was that a trip that was at a time where the restaurant was working and your parents felt successful?

By the time I was around, the restaurant had been there for, you know, many years. So I lived the glory years of the restaurant. And so when we went, it was beautiful. We brought a whole bunch of people. There was like 20 of us that went there. And so they took us to all the great local spots. And we went to where she grew up and where my mom grew up. And the only part is like, you know, their growing up is very different than ours.

I mean, there's many morbid stories. Like, this is the beautiful forest. We're like, oh, cool, I used to walk here every day to school. And when a cat died, they hung the cat in the forest. So I'd walk by dead cats. I'm like, that's crazy. And she's like, that's the window I used to sit in with my room. And that's where I saw my neighbor fall out of the tree and die.

It was just a very different upbringing. Was the neighbor trying to untie the cat? Yeah. It was a very different upbringing. I forget that they left. I was like, oh, my parents, you know, came from Taiwan. But actually, like, they left their whole life. They were freaking, the most, they decided it was better to leave

and leave all their wealth and all their stuff and come to a place where they started at zero. And that is so rock star, and I always forget that until I sort of think of what it took to do that. And when I look at us right now, what were decided? How old were they both? My mom was 19, so it was like her whole family, and she's one of six.

So all the aunties and uncles really raised us. and my dad is one of four so wow and when they came they came with their whole families yes to the states my dad my dad's side they came sort of separately over time so yeah but they all ended up there but your upbringing was being surrounded by family family all the time yeah being fighting for food uh always uh being told what to do uh but it was beautiful it was so beautiful um raised by many, many people, for sure. And are most of them still in the Bay Area? Yeah, all of them are still, I'm the only one who got out.

I was like, I am out, guys. I do not need everybody around looking at me. But when I go back, it is the best. I love when, if you guys ever go to the Bay Area, you let me know, they will take them. You'll feel like you'll know my family very quickly. It's very exciting. I mean, all I want to ever do

is go to a good Chinese restaurant so the fact that there's like an added benefit of meeting your family, that would be super. Yeah, like we had a mediocre Chinese restaurant in our hometown and it was our favorite place to go to. Yeah, that's awesome. So a classic, good one. I was at an Apple event in Cooper Tito there,

which is right in my hometown. So we had all these people from Apple TV shows or whatever and M. Knight was there and I'd never met a night before. And I was like, oh, I'm going to my family's restaurant tonight. if anyone wants to come. And Knight was like, you know, I usually don't do anything of that stuff. But sure, I'll go.

I'm hungry. So he went. So it's M. Knight at my house, at my restaurant, with all my family members just serving. We had the best time, him and his cousin. And so now we're like good friends from that. That's fantastic. It's exactly my family. This is crazy.

And now the whole lobby of the restaurant is filled with just like me on magazine covers and wicked posters. and Justin Bieber posters. So I was going to ask, I was going to safely assume your family is intensely proud of you,

but of course that really hammers at home. They are proud. I'm sort of a product to them, I think. I mean, they're definitely like it. We develop. We developed this. Yes, yes. No, of course, they're very proud.

They have plenty of things to say about my movies. I will hear every note, which is why I don't show them too early now but it's fun it's really fun they love to give me notes Is one of your parents more a nicer critic

So my mom loves to have her opinion That's not funny I know what's going to happen Oh yeah this is what's good She loves to say it in the middle of the movie To everybody She Yeah so that's frustrating

And I've tried to coach her I was like this is my life mom I spent years on this like three minutes right here. Can you just not say anything? And she's like, no, I'm your mother. I can do what I want. So that doesn't work. And then my dad is very, like, loves it, everything.

But then I realized that we did, I didn't, now you see me too. And we went to China to do an opening in China. And so we watched it in the theater there, and they have translations in the China version. And suddenly he's like laughing at other jokes. He gets it. And my mom like, oh, yeah, he never understands her movies. He doesn't, he can't keep up that quick. So I was like, this whole time, 20 years.

That's so good. It must have been nice to be like, oh, so it is working. Yeah, it's working better than I thought. He's not bad. I would imagine there's something a little bit more, was it a different experience with crazy rich Asians? Because again, to like a ton of audiences that was like, oh, this is the first time

we're seeing our experience on screen. And I would imagine it connected with their family as well. Did they hold it to a different standard because of the subject matter? Or did they just embrace it the way they embrace all of your work? I guess that, for me, it was really hard to start because that was the thing that was scariest to me to talk about, like, my cultural identity crisis. Talking about being Asian, just in general, suddenly everyone tries to treat you like an Asian and do things that are Asian for you. And you're just like, I just don't want that. Like, I just want to be a director.

So for years and years, I just was on that track. And then I realized, oh, this is, as an artist, I need to do the thing that scares me the most. So exploring my family. But Crazy Rich Asians is my family, essentially. My mom is Eleanor in that way. And they very much talk about the traditions and what our generation can't do of sacrifice and what they sacrifice for us. But at the same time, they love media.

So they're listening to oldies. They're listening to new songs. They're taking us to show. So that mix of that tone was really similar. I made a playlist of all these old songs from China that I had never heard from like the 50s and 40s and I played it for my mom and her eyes like lit up

and this is the stuff that's now in the soundtrack and stuff she knew every word to all these songs she looked like she was 19 years old and her sisters all knew the words she's like me and your dad used to dance the jitterbug to this music and I'm like what you guys liked each other so

so I knew that there was something so we got to share in this canvas and I got to talk to them about hey, what about this? I was doing a scene with Michelle Yo in the kitchen and I shot a picture of me and Michelle in the kitchen because I wanted a big kitchen scene so we had all the ingredients just like

at home and Michelle before this she was like, hey you have a bag of MSG you shouldn't have that bag as MSG there and I was like oh it's fine no, it's like so in the background nobody cares and so then I take a picture with Michelle and I send it to my dad and I'm like oh this is Michelle Yo and I and he's like

why is their MSG right there? I was like Oh, anyway, but they were very proud. We were, we had great, we had actually a marketing event at the, at the restaurant where we brought the report. We had our junket at the restaurant. And my mom brought all my awards from since I was in third grade all the way through high school and put them on all the tables where all the people were. She didn't have enough room. So in the back of her trunk of her car, she had more awards and would walk people through my life. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.

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She made it a point to bring us to our different places in the world or in the, you know, in the country. You know, we went to France, into London, into all these different places. And so she, so that's why I got in charge of the video camera because they loved technology. They were there. So we had the first, you know, some of the first video cameras and stuff when nobody had it. And I would be in charge of the video camera. They would dump it on me. It's the giant one with the VHS tapes in it.

And I, that's where I started to realize, like, oh, this, when I look in there, I could just like look at things that I look at and just like everything sort of clears away and I could share that and someone else could be like oh yeah that is weird that that staircase has that shadow oh that is weird that that person at the airport was saying goodbye we didn't even know like I just love that that sort of observation

sort of a jar that I could put these things in so it was from those vacations for sure was your uh I know like having a restaurant is like an intense scheduling hurdle for things like trips would your dad come as well when you would go overseas? No. No, he never came. Sometimes he came for like the last two days, but no, pretty much.

So your mom could sort of rustle five kids, no problem? Yes, and she lives in her own sphere of her world. So she comes in and we're used to everyone staring because we were all sort of crazy. So she would take us to the nicest restaurants. She would dress us up because she wanted us to know how to like have, you know, class and be respectful and so she wouldn't let any of our friends call her

Ruth. We had to call her Mrs. Chu and all those things. I guess that was that era as well. So we would dress up. She put us all in polo. She thought we were the Kennedys. She would say that out loud. She'd call me John John. And so yeah, she could handle us and she didn't care what people said. If people treated us differently for being, she didn't care. We would walk into that country club. We would sit down. she would join the country, she would figure out a way for us to be a part of that system. And I think that was very powerful to live, not just because, not that I was aware of it.

It's just we felt comfortable in any space because mom said it was fine. So I never had, even compared to my older brothers and sisters who may have had that sort of immigrant child thing of like the pressure and being watched, I didn't. I was, I felt very free. And it wasn't until later in life of looking back at little moments, you know, when my kids, kindergarten teacher, my preschool teacher, would whisper to me like, remember, you don't mix with other kids or things like that. You're like, holy shit, but I would just laugh about it. So I lived a very protected life, actually, and I think that was very helpful.

And do you feel like that message and that parenting style, like, sort of permeated to all your siblings? Did they all feel that sort of comfort with the world? I don't think so, no. I think that I was, I think I was very, in this very special. specific position in the family because my first two siblings, yes, they were like, they were the first two of all those of my parents' generation. So everyone was like focused on them and trying to get an education. And then I had a brother, I have a brother who's autistic.

And so all the care went to him. And then I have a sister who's, you know, only 17 months old than me. So she got sort of like caught in the middle a little bit because all the attention was going to all these other kids. And then I came and I was completely ignored, but not, but I was also, you know, it was pretty cute and wild and whatever. So I got a different kind of attention. So it was just a very different dynamic that the young ones

started to live in than my older siblings, I think. Did you, were you ultimately, like, do you think when you went on a trip, when you went on a trip with your mom, was it really just the five of you and her, or did more of your family go? My grandpa would come sometimes, and aunt and uncle would come sometimes. What was your grandpa's vibe? As a traveler?

Oh, he loved his cognac and his, uh, and his, and his, uh, and his pipe. But he was good. He loved to travel. He was someone, you know, my middle name's Murray. So way, way back in the day, there was some, I have a little Scottish in me somehow, some way. And nobody really talks about it.

Everyone sort of like keeps it low or whatever. But my grandfather was like fascinated. So we went to Scotland. He was like all in on figuring out, you know, because there's rumors of which family were of, but they don't want to know about us. So then he was like, he was getting the, you know, the. pin the whatever all the different patterns

that are part of the Tartans. The clan Yes, the clan or whatever and so he has all this collection of like research about where we're from. So he was fascinated he would tell us these stories about like where that side of the family came from because he was treated very differently in Taiwan because he looked

differently. He looks not full Asian. So and so that so they also felt a little out of place there. There was another thing happening that again, not talked about a lot, but definitely was in his mind. And so he was a fun adventurer, I would say. It's so funny, like we, my father-in-law is really, like, when he's with our kids,

he's like a real good helping hand, like he has that real adventuresome spirit. And he wants to, like, show kids stuff that I think is really boring. And yet kids are, like, super into. Like, I feel like if Tom was like, let's go find the Scottish tartan that represents our clan, my kids would be all in. Whereas if he said it to me, I'd be able to. or just that sounds like a you thing maybe just you go

how about Loch Ness? We could go check out Lagnos. Would you guys ever take any road trips? No, we rarely took road trips except to L.A. Because my brother and sisters went to UCLA so then we would come down. But the one road trip I remember

was we went to France to do a road trip. So we went to Paris and stayed in Paris and then we took a van with all, my dad was there, so he could drive the van from Paris to Nice in this like three week long journey where nobody speaks French. I mean, we were taking French.

My mom's big idea was we all taking French for so long at school. This is where you can learn. None of us, we all refused to speak. So my mom decided if you're not going to speak, I'm going to speak. So she would embarrass us by just trying to speak French to these people. So it would force us. Never worked. But ultimately it was actually a beautiful trip.

it was just chaos the whole drive. And we had no radio. So we had one tape with like three songs, a Mariah Carey song, like always be my baby that played in repeat because we didn't have any other song. No one wanted to listen to the other radio. And it was the whole thing.

And were you, I mean, I imagine restaurants were a big part of those trips, but were you sightseers? Like what was sort of the agenda for a trip like that? Yeah, we were sightseers. My mom had it all sort of planned out of where we would go to grass

and go visit the perfume places there or go to Lyon and go to the festival there. So my mom had a very, very plant out of what agenda is. And did you, do you remember being the kind of kid that anticipated these sort of trips with excitement? Were you like, oh my God, we're going to France? It's going to be awesome. I think so.

I think so. I mean, it was every year, so we were all prepared. I think, yeah, we were very excited to go. I never, you know, my brother and sisters got to invite a friend. I never got to invite a friend. Oh, man. It was just me hanging out. You really were.

I know, what they don't know, what they don't know was when we went to Nice, so we went to a house there because they wanted us to be like whatever. And they would just let us go. So we had like bikes that we would go down to the beach and hang out all day long. And my brother and sister didn't want to hang out with me. So we would go to that. I would sometimes just be alone, but I saw them go to this dock way out in the ocean. And I was like, I'm coming.

And they're like, you're too little. You can't come. So they went. and then like 10 minutes later I was like fuck that I'm going and so I jump in the water and I start swimming

and I get about halfway and I've never felt my arms give out and my legs give out before but I was out like I could not move and it was very I started turning around

and I realized no matter how much I yelled no one could hear me and I was like oh my God and I it's the weirdest feeling I've never felt it since that you just can't do anything

and so finally I just tried to float and just kept floating in that way and I remember the water getting up to here and just taking my last breath and going down and be like, that was that. I remember opening my eyes and looking up at the sun and then my toe touched a piece of coral.

And I was like, oh, and I had just a little thing in my toe to kick up with my toe. And so then I could get a breath. And so I did that for like, I don't know how long. It felt like an hour, but I don't actually know how long. I finally got to the shore and I couldn't move. So I just laid on the sand and just was throwing up. And everyone's like, what the fuck is wrong with this?

kid and I never told anybody and I my parents don't know and uh and I but I will never forget that feeling of being like that's it like you're so helpless you're like this small in this world and that's that's that's what's gonna happen and they're gonna find yeah it was crazy

yeah it's a help and that I mean that is like almost like a cinematic trope of like going underwater and having like just seeing the sun refracting through I mean I remember every moment of it and so my kids are no longer allowed to be at the beat No, that's not true.

But I will, I will, I, that being that feeling that small, it was, that fragile was like, okay, your body is only so much. Do you have any fear of, of the water, like of open water because of that, or now you're sort of like, you know what you're capable of? I think I know I'm capable of. Maybe I'm safer than I was back then. I don't know. I think at that point I felt like I could do anything. Now I'm like, okay, maybe not do that. But, yeah, yeah.

But I don't feel I have a fear of water. My kids love water and all those things Yeah That's good Was your family Were your parents Interested in how What Chinese food restaurants were like

In the places you traveled Was there any like Yes they love to go to the Chinese restaurants Wherever we travel They love to go to the restaurants That were near our house Because those were their friends And they were love to support those friends

I mean they were very much ambassadors In the neighborhood because they were one of the first If not the first So they would take care of people who opened restaurants They would go and talk to them about the business and how to get people to come to the restaurant because they knew the struggle. So they would always say that, that we're ambassadors.

So when we went to France, we found the little Chinese restaurants. And there's nothing my parents love more than talking Chinese to the Chinese owners of the restaurant and going back to see their kitchen and talking to their chef and then talking about how great their restaurant is and Palo Alto and things like that. So is it, if you go to a Chinese restaurant in France,

is it a longer trip to a restaurant than most people would have? Everywhere we go is a long trip with my family because you want to go into the hotel lobby oh, they'll know every single person they love to talk to everybody who works there. In fact, they will target the person who's at least talked to in a room

and they will make a whole thing of that person. That's fantastic. I mean, our Larry has a little of that too, so it must just be a Larry thing. did uh we uh uh we had your friend boen yang on our podcast oh yes he said that was a real like his parents wherever they went they had to they immediately wanted to find the chinatown like that was just a real and he was saying as a kid it was so like a little disappointing that you're like oh finally a new place that's like no we're gonna go to the one they weren't my parents weren't exactly like that but they had their head

there were snippets of that of that for sure i just it'll air the night we're doing this so it will have already come out by the time we do this, but I do a thing on my show called Day Drinking, and I just did it with Bowen. Oh, right. And Matt Rogers. Oh, nice. Oh, my gosh. Isn't Bowen the best? I love Bowen so much. Bowen is the best. Bowen got drunk and said

in Wicked 2, Ariana dies right away, and also it's pronounced wicked, and it's about two candle makers. When the thing is wick, it has a life of bone. That's the new song, you didn't know. So, Bo, so I went to Essend, so I've loved SNL our whole life. We've watched it

every season, every episode since I was a kid, and even when I wasn't allowed to be up, we would watch it. And so and we would videotape it or record it and all that stuff. And so when Aquafina was the host after Crazy Rich Asians,

I was like, I have to go. This is historic. So I went and it got to be in Lauren's suite and all that stuff and Stephen Spielberg and have like the whatever, the catering up there. It was amazing. and then went to the after party, the famous after party, yeah.

And, like, I suddenly became that kid in high school again where I had no friends. I was like, oh, I don't know anybody here. Oh, shit. So I just, like, sat in the back. At one point, Lauren did, like, call me over to his booth and had a great conversation.

And then I went off, and then I was, like, back by myself again. And at that time, Bowen was just a writer, not just a writer, but he was a writer, not on the show yet. And he came up to me, and he was like, I'm Bowen. I was like, oh, hey.

I'm, I helped write. the monologue and he was so kind to me and we hung out that night and it was the best and I was like I like this guy I hope he makes it and it was only like a season later where he just like killed it and so I'm so proud and so he's such a beautiful person

yeah he really is he's also I feel very lucky to have that feeling of connection to people even the ones you don't overlap with because I always forget that I've never actually worked with Bowen but he feels like family that's so funny

do you what I and I've loved working with comedians I'm so enamored by what you guys do that the actual craft of it is so fascinating I didn't fully understand that until I was working with Woody

Harrison and and watching and a lot of people in that now you see me that the skill of it takes not just not just your timing but like the writing of it and the workshopping.

It's just so beautiful. And so I've loved working with comedians in movies in so many ways. There are people who just get the right timing. It's fascinating. Ten Zhang kills it. Yeah, those are really good people. Oh, my God, that dude. Amazing.

Are you good now? I mean, obviously, you're a very busy person. Do you have, does your family ever travel to, like, international premieres of your stuff? Because I imagine, you know, obviously you're making the kind of films that have them. Yeah. Sometimes I have to pick and choose the right moments. So what did I do for, so my parents have, we have done the China trip with my parents for now you see me.

And that was really fun because they got to take me around China. I haven't spent a lot of time there. And my now wife at the time, my girlfriend, we went there. And so they got to show us around. It was really beautiful and nice. And Singapore, they've come to. but I have to be careful with my the families always come to all my

premieres, at least the big statewide premieres. That's basically like my birthday party every year and they all, I get like 40 tickets and they all come and they love to just stalk the red carpet and just take pictures with everybody and harass everybody

and everybody kind of has to be nice to them so I have to tell them to like control yourself this is not the restaurant And so this, for Wicked, the Wicked premiere was last year, last November. And all of them were in the hotel across the street from the place we were having the premiere, the biggest red carpet I've ever seen, or green carpet. And we were up there and I had my suit on the thing. And then, and that morning at 6 a.m., my wife's like, my water broke.

And I was like, oh, wow. Today? Today? Wow. How, was it, was it very early? No, it was right on top. I mean, we knew it was going to be in the zone. Right.

You just thought, like, you just thought a showbiz baby would know to wait a day. Yeah. So there it is, the day of, and so we go to the hospital. We're like, we're going. So I missed the premiere. But in the hospital bed, while she's, like, waiting for the baby to come, we're watching the red carpet. And I tell my assistants, I was like, you guys, my parents, if there is a power vacuum, my parents will fill that vacuum on the carpet.

And no one will stop them. So you need to, and this is their first red carpet with my family. I was like, you need to take control when you can. And if anyone, you get them through that carpet. I don't care of three minutes, that's it. And so I'm watching the live stream in there, and then all of a sudden I see my family walk by,

I say, great, great, great. And I see them walk the other way. I'm like, oh, no. And for an hour in this live stream, they're talking to everybody. They're taking photos with Ari and Cynthia, and they're on E.T., and they're on all these things. Oh, my God.

it's so great I wonder if they internally knew like we are going to fill the power vacuum or if they just like it was just you know unconscious that they were like we're going to run wild on this carpet

they do not know they just for a moment I had forgotten the term power vacuum and I was thinking you were saying I needed to call my assistant and use an actual vacuum to suck up my family

from the red carpet they're going to leave popcorn all over this green carpet we paid a hundred grand for There was a one time when they came at the premiere for G.I. Joe. And so I'd worked with Bruce Willis and The Rock, and they were very excited to meet them. And Bruce, you know, Bruce can give you a hard time on set. And so, and he's a great guy. We loved working with him.

But I, so when they came, I was like, hey, they're like, we can't wait to meet Bruce. I was like, well, here's the thing. Like, it just depends, like, where he's at. Like, maybe he doesn't want to be here. I don't even know, like, where his mental state is. Like, does he really want to say hi to my family? I'm not sure. And then, John, come on.

You always keep us away from them. Just let us be. I was like, okay, whatever. But let me do the intro. Like, okay, okay. So we get to the thing and we get to the party and I'm talking to someone. I get distracted and I look over and Bruce is now sitting with my family taking shots. And he just looks over at me and he gives me like the keenest smile like, I got him in my pocket.

I was like, oh my gosh. So I go over there and then the night's over and they're like, John, he was the best. I don't know how you could say that he gave you a hard time some of those days like, what are you talking about? He's like, maybe the problem is you. So Bruce got my family. That's really good.

That's a really good run to have. I remember at an Emmy party. When I hosted the Emmys, my parents were there. And all my mom wanted to do was meet Idris Elba. And then just went over and just like fully just hitting on Idris Elba. right in front of my dad and you know what he did go ahead he kissed her on the mouth he kissed her and then he came and then the next time he's on my show and again it's just that you know i have

a great appreciation for people who realize like the value in their sort of small acts but uh first thing he said he's like and how was hillary can you give him my love god damn you edresselba god damn you My mom once walked It was walking past Morgan Freeman for the night you see him She goes by and she gives him a big hug From the back randomly And because she thinks that

She's like my friend So he hugs him from the back He's like, what the hell? I'm sitting in the chair behind I literally sink Ten feet down I'm like, no I'm like

Who's this little Scottish lady? That's my mom He was so cool about it. But the moment I cannot, they'll never forget his look to her. Like, what the hell? She probably never remembers that. Yeah. I was just in Ireland with my wife for a wedding.

And we, like, she was, it was rainy and cold. And we were walking home from a bar one night. And she tags me and says, tag you're it. And then just runs ahead on the street. And then there was a couple walking arm and arm. And she just like slaps the guy and goes. tag you're it and he was like what like from behind like she's running behind and it was like you're it uh that's so funny it was very cute that's so funny um i'm very excited for this movie

obviously i work at a company that is incredibly excited about this movie yeah but i do want to say that uh thank you i think i'm hopefully getting the timing right but we had when we had our 10th anniversary show um i was walked into 30 rock and there was this like really long uh a sort of side ad on the interior wall of the building and it was like happy 10th anniversary to late night it was a nice picture of me and I was like oh that's really cool

and then I got to my office and I'm like that's really darned I should have taken a picture of it like you know what I mean? Like I should know and tomorrow I'm going to and then the next day I came in and it was like

wicked it was like in four months I was like my gosh like I was like I got a day but it is it is really exciting

and it's really cool. And it's also, I will say, just the order of things for my kids was watching that and then going back and watching the original Wizard of Oz and they're just so excited about this. So congratulations.

It's really, really cool. Thank you. But before you go, you have to answer speed round questions. Speed round questions. Here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation,

relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Oh, relaxing, for sure. That's after, by the way, your mom is like, after everything I taught him. After every educational trip. I just want to lay there. Yeah. What is your favorite means of transportation?

I'm in car. Okay, great. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Just for interest and curiosity's sake, the Jackson's. Great.

Great. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? You can't do this to me. Can't do this to me. I'm on a desert, I remember my oldest brother, Larry, he would, uh, Larry, Larry, Larry, too. Your hometown is Palo Alto? Yes, Los Altos, really. Okay, well, Los Altos, if you were the head of the Board of Tourism for

Los Altos, how would you pitch that town? What are the highlights? I would say that Los Altos is the birth of the Silicon Valley. It's the center of innovation and education and culture, a place where you can raise your family and have a great time. And you can eventually, if done right, you can direct wicked one day. Because they're going to keep making them. And you have a great Chinese restaurant on San Antonio Road called Chef Chose that you must do. Chef Chose. There you go. And then Seth has our final questions. Have

you, John, been to the Grand Canyon? Never. Do you want to go? I've had conversations. My wife's from Arizona and I've had conversations about wanting to see it with my kids. Yeah. But not really.

This is super. By the way, John, that was the most not really answer. So don't think we're like, God, he seems like he's real close I feel like you know what I feel like you're going to do that right after you make it up to your sister

that you bailed on her during me and my shadow this was just a delight thank you so much congrats on the movie November 21st Wicked Part 2 it's about candles

and it's going to be great thanks John thanks John thank you bye buddy John, Joon Choo John Choo Bidoo Bidoo Bidoo John John Choo

John Choo Bidoo Bidoo Boo John Choo, yeah John Choo Boo Bidoo be do B do John John Chubidoo-Doo-Bee-Doo Grew up in Los Altos was the youngest of five. He met the earliest tech bros who gave him video cards and flash drives

he and his sister would dance in the talent show But when his sister got mad at him He wouldn't sing me and my shadow Has a family rest to run. Chef chooses the place to be Even though John is cool He'll never be as cool as Larry

Went to Taiwan Where some weird stuff goes on Never fell from a window went flat That trees where someone hung a dead cat What's with that? You're serious about that cat Absolutely Absolutely. They hung a dead cat from a tree on the morning of Wicked, and this ain't no joke.

He was dressed in his suit. His wife said her water had broke, went to the hospital. Had to miss the premiere, watch the coverage on TV, witnessed the sum of all his fears. witnessed for some of all his fears because his family they still went they love a flashy event a power vacuum is where they'll be on the green carpet live stream and on E.T. It was no surprise it happens every time because when he shoots a movie John Chu's wife always has a baby Baby, baby, one movie, one baby, baby, baby, five movies, five babies, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby.