Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JOSH HOMME Talked to Truckers on Walkie Talkies

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

This week on the podcast, Seth and Josh are joined by another Josh…Josh Homme! He talks all about growing up in Palm Desert, California, what life was like with his grandparents, Cap and Camille, the shenanigans he would pull on road trips with his brother, traveling to Idaho with family, and so much more! Plus, he chats about his upcoming project: Queens of the Stone Age: Alive in the Catacombs. Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- Support our sponsors: Magic Spoon Get 5 dollars off your next order at www.MagicSpoon.com/TRIPS. Or look for Magic Spoon on Amazon or in your nearest grocery store Soul Right now, Soul is offering our audience 30% off your entire order! Go to www.GetSoul.com and use the code TRIPS. Visit Baltimore Baltimore is just a short drive or train ride from New York, Philly, and D.C. Plan your visit today at www.Baltimore.org Baltimore: You won’t get it ‘til you get here!” ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. ------------------------- 00:00 Introduction with Seth and Josh 07:53 Guest Introduction: Josh Homme 10:59 Josh Homme's Family and Upbringing 29:58 Musical Beginnings and Solitude 32:05 Family and Music 33:06 Idaho and Family Trips 35:50 Touring with Family 43:11 Childhood Memories and Grandparents 58:01 Speed Round and Final Thoughts ------------------------- Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi, buddy. Hi, Sufi. How are you? I'm good. I've got my father-in-law arrived late last night. Not late last night, but like six o'clock. So he is enjoying the redone guest room. Ooh. Yeah.

Which I thought he's like, he's very handy, Scott Rollins. And I was like, I'm gonna paint this room. You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, install a new ceiling fan. And the ceiling fan's really thrown me off. Were you gonna actually try to do that by yourself? Yeah. Wow.

How far into the ceiling fan process did you get? Well, there's like this mounting bracket that comes with it. And I took the old ceiling fan off and I thought that the screws aligned perfectly. So I was gonna be able to use the sort of existing, I guess junction box that's in the ceiling, but they're a half inch off. So the screws would be coming sort of in at an angle towards things

that want to go straight up. So I did, there's something that's really nice about having Scott Rollins here now, because I'll be able to- Oh, is he gonna do it for you? Well, we're gonna talk about it and he's gonna know what I should do. Got it. Is there currently like an exposed,

like gearbox above his head? Yeah, there are three wires coming out of the ceiling, an exposed like gearbox above his head? Yeah, there are three wires coming out of the ceiling, but they're not above his head. They're sort of... But if I were to hang something and it were to fall, it would fall on his legs. Yeah. Do you know the famous story about me and our friend Derek in the ceiling fan? No. and our friend Derek in the ceiling fan? I don't know. We were staying at our friend Claire's lake house and there was an attic with the ceiling fan and it was so hot. It was like summer, you know, Midwestern summer,

just brutally, brutally hot. Yeah. And anyway, we wake up after like this sweaty night sleep and we're like ready to face the day, and Derek says, hey, in the middle of the night last night, did you stick your hand in the ceiling fan? He said that my response was, no, but I had a dream I did.

So I slept, walked, stood on my bed and like put my hand in a ceiling fan. It was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I will say that if you, if it was a hot night and I wanted to turn on a ceiling fan, I'd be a little disappointed if I looked up and it was just like three loose little wriggly wires. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we've got, there's good AC that comes in. Good, good, good. All right, nice. That's good.

But it's very nice in there. We still haven't hung anything on the walls. So part of it's like, oh, this is a very sort of clean minimalist room right now. But yeah, we're going to, we'll clutter it up soon enough. You're a very nice host. How long do you have Scott? About six days. Great. Yeah. Bravo. So, yeah, we've got, I don't know exactly what's going to be on the itinerary. He's been going back and forth to a lot of places, been doing a lot of work, and I think it's just going to be a nice time to relax. Good, good, good. Enjoy some good couch time, some good LA time.

I can't get my kids out of the water. It's a very nice summer for that. Oh yeah. Ocean, they're having a real ocean forward summer. How do they feel about getting sunscreen put on them? You know what? They're willing to, it's part of their routine. They endure it.

They endure it, yeah. Yeah. And I will say, again, you know how I hate to compliment her, but Alexi. Alexi has done this thing where every time I do it, they're like, too rough, too rough. And she has come up with a thing where she puts it on her hands and they bring their faces over and she just goes And like does it I can't believe it Yeah, right so much rougher than I would ever do it and because she's made a game of it. They just love it

That's very similar to dad with the buckets of water when we were in the tub when we were yeah Like dirt ball number one and dirt ball number two Yeah when we were little. Yeah. Like... Dirt ball number one and dirt ball number two. Yeah, which was a game. And so you'd get all the shampoo and soap on you. And then he would, like a warplane, he would pick up a bucket of water and he would say, dirt ball number one! And would just like crush you with a bucket full of water. Yeah, he cleaned us the way you would clean a prison floor

after someone had been shivved. Just like, whoosh, just sloshing it. And it was not often that Dad was in charge of bath time, but, you know, as memorable. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. He was doing a thing that was making Addy laugh so hard when he was visiting, which is Addy would go put her baby in the other room and then she would come back.

Addy doesn't have a baby, it's like a doll. It's a baby doll, yes, thank you. Most people were, what? It's not possible. So puts her baby doll in the other room, Nolan, if you're dying to know his name. And then she would come back and she would tell Punky Harry that he had to go pick Nolan up at school.

But with a big smile on her face. And then Punky Harry would go, and from the other room, you couldn't hear him. I'm sorry, you could hear him, but not see him. He would pretend like Nolan was running away from him. Oh. And he's like, Nolan, come back here, Nolan. And Addie would laugh so hard.

And then dad would throw Nolan into the room, like first. Like, he's like, yeah, don't get away from me, Nolan, no. And we just chucked Nolan and she loved it. Oh, that's great. That's very good. That's great that she wasn't upset that Nolan was getting thrown around. Yeah. How did Nolan, Strikes Me, just, I mean, it's a great name.

It's a lovely, fine, good name, but Strikes Me is a strange name for a baby doll. How did that come about? You're going to hear the key in, sorry, yeah, key in a lot click. She goes to school and one of her classmates has a baby named Nolan. So she literally would see a real life baby Nolan and she's like, I gotta get me one of those. Oh, gotcha.

Yeah. Gotcha. So it's a big deal. Yeah. The other day, I don't know if I told you this, but I went in, I had Addie in Axle, Ash sleeps on the lower bunk. I'm gonna get it wrong. I'm gonna have to ask the kids because they remember.

But I think this is, we thought Ash was asleep and so we were being really quiet, the three of us, because we had to get something. Axel wanted to show us something stupid. And Ash was awake. And then Ash wanted to jump up and scare us. And so he yelled, sugar booga. But then when he jumped up, he slammed his head on the top bunk. So he was like, sugar booga, punk.

And there was this beat. And then all at once, me and Addie and Axel started laughing so hard that Ash turned and started laughing so hard. And so now like sugar bo Sugar Booga is like, already entered the lexicon, is like, what you say when you bang your head on something. Oh, yeah, which is a great response. It's very Yosemite Sam almost.

Oh, yeah, it's the best. And, yeah, Axe was like, because I, you know, I'm not with them during the week because I'm doing the show. And then, you know, I get the recap of the week and Axe was like, and then I shook a booga in my head and do a walk. Makes it a lot less traumatic when it's a shook a booga.

We got a real rock and roller on the show today. Yeah. Yeah. A very cool guy. It makes me feel cooler that we can have someone like Josh Homme on. Yeah. And he's got some real, you know,

every now and then someone comes and they have like a, a real memorable dad or a memorable mom or a memorable sibling, but like Josh's grandparents are sort of the stars of his family trips episode. Yeah, and Queens of the Stone Age just been doing it for a while now. Yeah, he was a death metal, another kickass side project. Yeah.

Just in general a cool dude. Yeah. So, not the coolest Josh I know though. I know you were fishing for him. Oh, you think I'm cooler than Josh Homme? No, Josh Charles is cooler than Josh Homme. Oh. All right, Poshy, let's do it.

Alright. Family trips with the Mice Brothers. Family trips with the Mice Brothers. Here we go. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Adam lost him. Adam. Tricked. Tricked ya. You wanted to make sure we were for real. He pulled the rug right out from under us. How are you?

Tricked ya. Hi, boys. How's it going? It's great to see you, Josh. It's good to see you too, buddy. Long time. I'm very excited about the nautical theme behind you. Oh, this is, that's my grandma painted that.

That was my grandparents. This reminds me of my buddy who's no longer here. And I just love, and I just, I just love stuff like that. Yeah, Josh is showing us a model of a ship, a three-masted ship. But like with the actual, like the string work on the masts is what makes it impressive.

Yeah, I mean, this is what I found out is that back in the day when you wanted to sell a ship like this, you couldn't just drag it to, from Baltimore to, so people would take these scale models and Say this is it babe. This is a little room floor. That's how you sold your ships of That it by the way makes total sense and I love that I thought no people with ships just wanted to make little ones, too Nobody had hobbies back then. You could, there was not, yeah, no one could afford to have hobbies.

Everything you think was a hobby is like, no man, that was me trying to sell a big old boat. Yeah. You try selling a boat at this time of year. Yeah. Like it's so funny. Just word of mouth being like, no, it's like, yeah, it's like a picture boat. That's what it looks like. Yeah. And it's like, um, it's like a well, a picture of both. That's what it looks like. Yeah, it's like, kind of like that one. But no, oh, yeah. Like

you see the need for the ship. You know, the little model. Also, I mean, well, let's just get right into it. Because there's a beautiful painting by your grandmother was your grandmother, an artist? No. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she was. She was actually such a maverick. I was so close to my grandparents and that she she was a painter. She was the first woman to fly a plane in North Dakota. She was she she smoked ciggy's but with them plastic filters which are like, yeah, just

make it just made the diff, you know, it's so funny The plastic filters you almost feel like based on what safety was back in the day It's like yeah, you can't fly a plane unless you have the little plastic filters not say And you know talking and painting with that You know, I I remember she had she painted in the garage and I remember being really young, just wearing jeans shorts, which was a swimsuit in the desert. That's nothing else. And watching her finish a painting and put the other one down and just start on the next one, you know, with the SIGI and the thing. And then he's still back there, Josh.

You realize Hunter, Hunter Thompson, if the cigarettes not done, uh, then you can move on to another painting. Yeah. And everyone sounds like Hunter Thompson. If the cigarette's not done, then you can move on to another painting. Yeah, and everyone sounds like Hunter Thompson. Yeah, I mean, that is who I think. When I think of the plastic, it is funny how long, how did she live a long life, a long full life? For our family, yeah. We've had a lot of people in their 60s go,

hey, and then just fall face down and like, and just slide to a stop. And you just never, you never found out what they were saying. Hey, about, that's the most, yeah, they're like, Hey kid, that's, you know, I think it's more like, like that Hillbilly thing, like watch this. And you just fall and slide. Hey, look at this. It's good to have a witness. Yeah. Can I get one? Yeah. So she so she made it a little bit longer than that though. She didn't die with one final hay. Yeah, she it wasn't a final hay. She made it to I believe it was 79. Okay.

You know, which I think, you know, in the 80s was pretty good. Yeah. If you're sucking nicotine through plastic, I feel like that's not a bad number. Yeah. That's not a bad number to hit. And so you say, were you close with both your grandparents? Oh, they were my idols. You know, like my grandpa wore an ascot or like a scarf, but didn't look like a douche. He looked at-

That is a needle to thread, man. Yeah, it's a tough one. And they were expert horsemen, you know? And so one of my early memories is like seeing the head of a horse and I'd hear my grandpa say, point it out and I'd point at something in the desert and he would shoot it from the horse. Wow. Were you on the back of that horse or on desert and he would shoot it from the horse. Wow.

Were you on the back of that horse or on a different horse? I was on the front. I was being held, you know, with like a BB gun or a pellet gun like this, you know, walking slow. And it was like, yeah, I thought my grandpa was John Wayne till I was like nine. Just lay in a, I mean, by the way, he might've been more authentic than John Wayne.

That dude was just an actor. Yeah, true, fair enough. Yeah. Now I'm picturing him just sort of laying a rifle barrel over your shoulder while you're in front of him on a horse. Yeah, just hot barrel, which sounds a little sexier than I'm intended. Yeah.

That's what your grandmother called the plastic filter. That was her hot barrel. Hot barrel. It was a family full of hot barrelers. So they were North Dakota people, but that's not where you grew up. They moved from North Dakota to Palm Desert. Gotcha.

And when they moved, Palm Desert must have been just a completely, I don't know, I would imagine hardly anybody was there. It was seven people. Yeah. It's very, the lines were not drawn so you could color wherever you liked. Yeah.

So was Palm Springs like the big city and then you were adjacent? Yeah, I mean, Palm Desert and Rancho Mirage for any locals out there, those lines were not drawn yet. And in fact, my grandpa whose nickname was cap cap, we weren't allowed to call them grandma and grandpa was cap and Camille. Right.

So cap had this kind of ranch. And by ranch, I just mean someone drew lines around a big piece of dirt. It's like, yeah, they weren't ranching anything in particular. And he had to decide whether to go with Palm Desert or Rancho Mirage. And the only street that came right to the entrance of this ranch was essentially in Rancho Mirage. And at the last minute he chose Palm Desert,

whoever he chose had access to the 10 freeway. No one knows what I'm talking about. But at the last minute he chose and Ranch Mirage promptly put a gate right over his only entrance to his house. I love petty civic squabbles. Oh my gosh, yes. And what a cap. What, why, what is cap a nickname for?

Like, how do you earn a nickname that cool? Uh, it was a captain. He was a, he was a captain in the Marine Air Corps. And, uh, and he was, he was, he was, he was, I, I really, I, I, I love them so much. I, and I, I love them so much. I haven't tattooed over each nipple. Then it's on each hand. That's great. That's way better.

Yeah. I wouldn't say reluctantly, but he was always chosen to be the captain of the basketball team or this football. He was just a naturally gifted athlete. As you can tell, I very much looked up to them. Yeah. We had two sets of grandparents. One were very much grandma and grandpa,

and then the other one were Frank and Addy. They were real first name people, and it was the same thing. I think they just weren't ready to be old enough to be grandparents. Okay. So I have a question though. Frank and Addy, were they more sort of like, hey, were they the sort of more vivacious and- Frank had a boat and often didn't have a shirt off

and probably, although now I'm realizing I'm the age Frank was when I met him. Right? But I know- He was at that wiry,y old man New England strength. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and Addy was always like beautifully dressed.

She was an interior decorator. She was like spread out on her Shaz lounge and was, yeah. Way to throw a Shaz. That was a hard Z. Josh was gonna Shaz out there. Yeah, I mean, it was her signature sort of, that's where she existed, yeah. There's something very she about a Shaz, you know?

It's just blounged, sprawled out. My cap and Camille were very fashionable, you know? Yeah, yeah. There was a riding club in Palm Springs, and so every once in a while they'd be, they'd end up riding. It'd be like Jimmy Stewart would, would they have dinner at their house? I was too young for that section of that. But, and I think because they were relatively nonplussed, you know, a lot of

people would escape to Palm Springs at that time and, you know, you end up riding with someone and it's like, yeah, come to the house, have a scotch, come on over. Yeah. Did you, were Cap and Camille your dad's side or your mom's side? They're homies, yeah, they're my dad's side. And that's who I took all these summer trips with. Gotcha.

And so where were the summer trips? 60 miles from Canada in the Panhandle of northern Idaho. Ooh. Gotcha. Yeah, at a place called Lake Pend Oreille. And so is this something that Cap and Camille had established before they moved to Palm Desert? This camp? My aunt lived there, and it's this lake that's about 900 feet deep,

and they used to test submarines there, the only sort of freshwater submarine testing zone in America, but it's a really pristine lake. It's really gorgeous. And so every year from the time I was zero till I was about 18, we'd get out of school, get picked up and take the drive from Coachella Valley to Sandpoint. That can't be a quick drive. It's not, but you know, and at the time I remember sort of like protesting as you get

older. Yeah. You know, three months in the woods on a lake, you're complaining, you know. I never played baseball. I never played baseball. I never saw my friend, what the hell is going on around here? Right.

Especially you arrived the night before school starts again. It was like- Oh, that was, so they were just like, it was, we're gone until the state demands our children are back, pretty much? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, and I would complain, my brother would protest, and my dad would always be like, write it down and send it to me. Give it to me. You got plenty of time to write, you're not playing baseball. Where did your brother land, older or younger? He's older, but he looks younger.

I don't want to talk about it. It's that rock and roll lifestyle. I don't want to talk about it. It's that rock and roll lifestyle. It's going to get you, Josh. No, I mean, preserved in alcohol is preserved. What were you guys driving to get up to Idaho? You know, there was a station wagon at one point with that jump seat in the back where you're facing

the back traffic and sort of like trying to engage with traffic and truckers and, but at one point it went to a Toyota van again. A van again was a, was a van that with a four cylinder engine. And so you never really went anywhere. You know, it had a top cruising speed of 37 miles an hour. Yeah, that's not great, especially for a long drive. That's really bad. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.

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Yeah, well, that's him and his hobby. Nobody ages. Nobody ages in Utah. Yeah, it's in, he's in Utah. Him and his, uh, yeah, well that's him and his hobby. Nobody ages. Nobody ages in Utah. Yeah. It's him and his hobby or, or, you know, skiing and just kind of killing it. It's that, that, that whole tank thing, two incomes, no kids, you know? Oh yeah, man. That's heavy on the dream.

Oh my God. Dream. I'm like, where are you? They're like, we're in Greece on a boat. Fuck. That's the dream. Oh my God. That's the dream. I'm like, where are you? They're like, we're in Greece on a boat. And I'm like, fuck, of course you are. What am I doing? So when you would go up to Idaho, how many people was it?

Was it your nuclear family and then plus the grandparents or was it more than that? Plus the grandparents and sort of trailing each other. We had walkie talkies. Oh, great. Which, well, I think it was great for us, you know, my brother Jason and I, but I think in general, it was probably annoying for the other people and any trucker that I'm on the same channel. Oh, right.

I didn't. Yeah. I didn't, yeah. I didn't even think about that part. I was just thinking if my kids were in another car, the last thing I would want was like to have to listen to them. It's the early iPad. Yeah. You know, where you keep saying, come back rubber ducky.

Yeah. Any one desperate. This is big bear. This is big bear. Come back rubber ducky. Oh man. Yeah. I guess that's like a Bear. Come back, Rubber Duckie. Oh man. Yeah, I guess that's like a little bit of like, I remember like, you know, when you pull, you know, trying to get a trucker to pull a horn was always really an exceptional moment, but having to have a conversation with them seems unfair to the trucker.

Especially when you're just unsure. Like, I was doing this because, you know, at times in my life, not knowing what the hell this was. Right. Right. No, I'm just there. I'll never forget. There was one time we, this kind of group of motorcycles, you know, and there were hells angels, they kind of pulled up, you know, we're passing us,

you know, getting stuck sort of next to us and I'm going like this. And it was the first time asking for the horn indeed. Yeah. And it was the first time I was ever flashed. Oh, well that worked. It wasn't a, it wasn't a big biker. It was a girl on the back and I was like, Oh my God, what is this? What does this mean?

Yeah. I mean, the rest of your life, were you so disappointed when it was just a truck horn? Everywhere. I went to every restaurant just like, what are you gonna have kid? And I was like, I'll have the chicken breast. Did was your I mean, I would imagine was your dad close with his parents? It seems like he followed them there for a reason. Probably. We just, we, we were always that six pack, you know, always, always.

And your mom was on board with it. Oh yeah. My mom and my grandma were besties. You know, great. Great. Great. Yeah. It was a tight little plan. Did your aunt, uh, great, great. Yeah, it was a tight little clam.

Did your aunt from Lake Ponderay, did she have kids or a family or did you have cousins that you'd hang with? I had two cousins, the two girls, you know, and roughly the same age. Yeah. You know, and as I said, like there were, in your teen years,

I did a lot of rock kicking with my hands in my pockets. Yeah. But I think, uh, much like, much like the Coachella Valley where it was, there was really nowhere, no one and not a lot to do and in the woods in Northern Idaho, also not a ton to do. Northern Idaho also not a ton to do. Right. I think of the, the guy who I can't remember his name, the guy who was the

creator of Calvin and Hobbs, he did this. Built. Yes. Sure. I agree with that. Great. Me too. He did this book called the gift of nothing where, you know Hobbs says, it's your birthday. What do you want?

And Calvin says nothing. And so he goes searching everywhere for nothing, you know, and at the end, you know, he's looking high and low. And at the end, he gives him this present, he opens it up and there's nothing in there and he says, Oh, he hugs him and says, that's just what I was asking for, you know? And I think of the gift of nothing, of time, and the, you know, when there's no fun, you make your own fun, you know?

And so I think it was a gift. Now, I have a couple of questions. One, by, you were talking about how as a teenager, you get away, you're away from your friends, but you also were very early to music, so you're kind of, is it safe to say you're like a rock and roll kid by your mid-teens who's now has to go like to the woods? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

It must be even harder for a rock, for a rocker to kick rocks. That just doesn't seem fair at all. It's a very linear path that is. Do you, is it, was music though part of your time alone? Were you like bringing any like a guitar to like? Yeah, absolutely. I started playing around nine and that became the answer to what do I do? What do I do? Yeah.

And interestingly enough, or I suppose it depends on what you think, but, uh, you know, walking out into the woods, even I started smoking ciggy is at like 13 years old. So it was like, where do I go to do this thing? I'm not supposed to do going out in the woods, having a ciggy and watching the smoke go through the, like the, the sunlight and the trees while, man, I still played with toys at 13 with a ciggy, you know, like, like action figures don't like play with them and going, they're on fire lighting them on fire and be like, yeah. with them and going, they're on fire, lighting them on fire.

And be like, yeah. And then picking up a guitar and sort of serenading this group of mostly burned, you know, action figures and, uh, but as I say, in hindsight, I think playing alone in the woods sounds like the beginning to a horror movie, but it was actually really, it was, it was bitching. It definitely seems like you were doing a photo shoot for an album that hadn't been written yet. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, you're sort of soundtracking your life.

The realization I came to is like, and there were times people would walk in and say, you got a Ziggy, action figures and guitar, and someone would walk up and be like, know, you got a Ziggy action figures and guitar, and someone would walk up and be like, boy, what the hell are you doing? You know, a couple of dogs and a shotgun, like, what are you doing? Yeah.

And it felt very much like being caught masturbating. It was just like... I would say that's a weird case where I think you might, a cover story, it might've been better just to say I'm masturbating. As opposed to what you're doing. Well, emotionally I was. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. If you know. And too early to say like, I'm making a video for YouTube. It was. Yeah, right. Yeah, there was no. Did you, was music in the family or were you sort of an outlier there?

My grandma played piano and, you know, I remember though, my grandma played piano and you know, I remember though, my, uh, my grandma, she would play and if I would walk in, she would kind of stop. And again, watching her paint alone and finish a painting and put it down and just pick up the next one. I would just remember early on thinking like, art is something you do for you. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't a share moment.

Like I never played for my family at Christmas. I still never have, you know? Right, right. It's if I was playing and someone walked in, I would stop and again, sort of be like, ugh. Yeah. And I think to this day, even if I'm in a hotel room, I play quietly because I'm like,

oh, the next room can hear me fucking up. You know, it's very much a, yeah, I guess sort of still sort of masturbatorial event. Did you, did Idaho stay in the family? Was it something you're, you have three children, correct? I do, yeah. Did they, have they ever got up there? I just got back two days ago.

Oh, great. And so was it part of their upbringing as well to get up there? It has been, and not as sort of regularly as I would like. And, and I, and a couple of times we've done that drive there and back. Um, because I think especially nowadays you can, you can relate. Seth, what do you, you got two? Three. Three.

Oh, nice. But younger, younger? Three. Three. Oh, nice. But younger, younger than yours. Yeah. Oh, I suppose that's a brag. Uh, dude, do you know how jealous I am of the fact that you're going to, you're going to not have a 13 year old when you're 60. Well, physically I'm 65. So it's like, yeah.

But I do think it's a wonderful form of kidnapping. Yeah. And Josh, do you have kids too? Am I leaving you out? No, no, no. That's why he looks so good. Yeah, TBD. Yeah, recently married, so we'll find out.

What's the modern cell service like up there? Like when you get your kids up there, is it a is it a dead zone? Because I would love to get my kids to a place, you know, where there's no option astoundingly. Even on the lake, there's good cell reception. But I, you know, I told I've told them for years when we go there, we're doing a tech detox.

So you go out on the lake on a boat and no one is allowed to bring cell phones and they try to bargain like, what if we wanna take a photo? And I said, you're gonna have to do it mentally. Right, oh, good for you. You're gonna have to remember. I will say we have a friend who's a photographer

and we see her a lot in the summer, and, you know, we'll go out on a boat, and she'll bring a proper camera. And her camera, you know, then she sends us all pictures. They're, like, 100 times better than anything we would have taken with a phone. So it is like, I do want to say to my kids, like, I'll get you a camera.

You know what I mean? Like, if that's what you want to do. I've said that. I've said that to my son, Ry my son rider the middle my middle one and Because he has that interest and also it prevents things like my my mom's she's just a terrible Photographer I say that with all the love and respect It's like mid about to take a bite of a pizza like the sort of the worst candid You know when you're going like this, just like a seven.

The throats in a weird place. A seven chin, two pepperoni style photograph. So it's got its benefits even for the elderly. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I do want to get back to your family shows, but I'm wondering, like, as a touring musician, have your kids, has that been a part of their family vacations? Did they go on the road with you a lot?

A lot. A lot. Especially, you know, especially summertime through Europe, we spend a lot of time, you know, and it feels like a nice trick to be able to, it's a business expense. We're coming over here and then you sort of leave yourself stranded somewhere in Spain or something like that. It's a real, it's one of the beautiful benefits of being a touring musician is you stop somewhere exotic on an accident, like Cleveland. is you stop somewhere exotic on accident, like Cleveland or something.

Are those, do you sort of make a meal of it before or after the tour? Or do you try in the middle to find time? Or I don't know if you're just like bang, bang, bang with shows. The last summer, I got pretty sick last summer. And like just physically where I had to have

surgeries and stuff like that. And, and it was right in the middle of this tour where I was really trying to shuffle those two decks of vacation and travel together or touring and vacation together, which I found to be the wrong idea. It's sort of better to tour and then do it. Yeah. And I realized, I mean, we had like, I had this thing where it's four days off in Rome and seven days off in Greece

and you know, uh, two days off in Transylvania. Cool. And, and, and that sounds amazing, but also it's, it's very difficult to touring is about going fast and it's hard to pump the brakes and go slow and go fast and go slow. It's yeah, they they're not great bedfellows just in terms of trying to to I like to have blinders on and do one or the other. So ideally if you were touring and not trying to make it a vacation, you would stack shows a lot.

You wouldn't take a lot of time off between shows. I, I, I, I like to tour in a way that makes your crew quit. So I can't do what I would like. I would play four or five days in a row because when we're, when our fingers are a little bloody and you're kind of bruised and that's when it's, that's when we're at our best, you know? Right. But you know, because you don't, not to sound like Yoda, but you do not try. You're just being yourself and you're too, you're too beat up and exhausted to, you know, pretend to be something else.

I also think for like the kind of music you play and your fan base, they don't want to see you come on stage and think, they look so well rested. You know what I mean? These guys are pristine. I've never let them see me well rested, ever. Like it is fun. Like there's certain kinds of bands you want to, you almost want to feel like you're watching

the show after the show. Yeah. Yeah. I think I have this obsession with it being different every night and so that that could be like, all right, well tonight is, you know, mushroom chocolates and tomorrow is sobriety and then the next day is tequila and then the next the set is always different. It's it's's gotta be, we have a lot of repeat offenders that come to a lot of shows.

And so even if it's only five of them, I think, oh, they can't possibly see the same thing. It's not, I can't. Right, right. And so that is the opposite vibe of vacationing somehow. Yeah. You know? You're right.

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You know, we attempted to do things in that Thanksgiving spring breaky thing. And I have come to realize I read this thing about, you know, a decade ago, that was a study about kids' memories and you know, whether the vacation was good or bad, that occupies a bulk of their family memories. There's some, there's, you know, it's in, in above 70% of their real core memories are, are these attempts to go somewhere, right? No. And I just thought, man, I'm just gonna, you know, sometimes I just pull them out of school

and go somewhere for a week, you know, now. With three of them, especially that they're a little older, it's just individual trips with each one of them, you know what I mean? Oh, that's good. Are they ever like, I have school dad. It's important that I'm in school now. Yeah.

Especially now that they're, you know, my daughter's 19 and my middle son is 13. And so they're like, I have friends and a life. Yeah. And, but I'm always like, yeah, I know. And part of that life is going to Tokyo. Right. Well, that's not bad. That's pretty good.

It's not bad. No, yeah, sounds good. I also like to fly them home on their own. Oh, tell me more. Well, it's like, I keep thinking like, what is the easiest, safest way to give them some independence? You know, right.

Like you're really just getting from point A to point B, but. You know, uh, the feeling of like, I just did that. I just flew home from Tokyo to LA and there's someone dropping you at one end and picking you up there, but you did that thing. Yeah. It's such a, such a safe, cheap way to gain some independence, you know? And some confidence.

Are you on the next flight or are you taking another week in Tokyo? Well, like for Tokyo, for example, it's like my son Ryder came and then we then started the tour after and went to Australia, New Zealand and it's just like, he went home, you know? Gotcha.

And, but it's just like, and they're capable of doing this and they're sort of, when they got home, each of them that have done this are like, man, just flew home from, you know, from Cleveland. We had the boys, I'm sorry, I always say the boys because our girl is the third one, my kids. Their cousin. The boys and her. Yeah, the boys and her, who I will remain unnamed.

But they had a cousin from Austin came to New York, eight years old, and they put him on a plane. And I was just so impressed with him. And I kind of hoped my boys would be like, yeah, we'd like to do that. And they were both like, no way. Well, you know, kids given the choice would, would at that age would go like, hey, no.

But when you just say it, like, I like to talk to my kids. Like we have a small business together and there we're running it together. Yeah. It's just, you are going to do this and you can do this. And don't worry, I got do this and you can do this and don't worry. I got this cut where you can do this. And just like you said, you were impressed.

So when you see the cousin, certainly you were like, wow, you did fantastic. That's I'm impressed. And when they hear that and they just done that it's, as I said, it's such an easy way to guarantee that independence, you know? Yeah. And it just builds that confidence. Sure. I would imagine. That's just a cool way to guarantee that independence, you know? Yeah. And it just builds that confidence. Sure.

I would imagine. And that pride. Yeah. They start saying, I can do the following. Yeah. Did you ever go in a plane that your grandmother flew? No, but I would have liked to do that without, I I mean without the scotch and I guess the SIGI would be fine.

By the time they moved to the DEZ both my grandpa and grandma Captain Camille they were done flying. Yeah, he flew as well. He was a recreational pilot as well. Well he was in the Marine Air Corps and was a captain and flew in World War II. So I think after that, he didn't fly again. I think he was like, that's enough of that. Yeah.

I think if you make it out of World War II, you're probably like, I don't know if I want to risk it on just to like, let's see what the town looks like from up high. Well, I know some people have that love. I know, I know he loved to do it, but he also made, he was, you know, in the Pacific theater and so when you'd go for R and R they'd say, cool, just go to Australia. Right. But from the South Pacific flying, you know, using navigation, like, you know, astral navigation and all this stuff

at that time. There was one story where, you know, he's pulling into Sydney, they're completely out of gas and other the rest of the crew ditches and he's white knuckling trying to land this thing. And I think the stress of that was like, okay, that's enough of that. Yeah, you know, ditches, they are all like, we're going to parachute off of this plane. We're going to, we're going to jump. We're close enough. We're overland and best of luck to you. Yeah.

Better if you don't sort of ditch the airplane. Well, that that's going to R and R too. Yeah. That is the best way to start a vacation. It's real. I mean, again, I would, I would never be that excited if I was flying a plane and everybody thought their odds would be better if they jumped out in parachutes. They're like, you'll be fine.

We might bounce. Yeah. If you don't mind, we're just going to bounce. Yeah. Especially when it's like you start the flight by realizing, okay, ocean. And you just go like kind of that way, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. And make sure your math is right. It's like my math. Okay. All right. You know, you're on the plane of the pencils. Like, I just, I have such a reverence for people that can pull off those difficult situations. Yeah. Did you? Were your grandparents around to see you do your thing?

Did they ever get to go to a concert? They never went to a concert because it wasn't their cup of tea, especially early on. Yep. And my grandpa and they were sort of a few words, you know, I would call them on the reg from tour and I'd be like, you know, cap, it's Josh. And you'd be like, Oh, well, here's your grandmother. But I knew that that was their love language. They just wanted to hear your voice. Yeah. And she'd say, how's it going? I'd say it's good. And she'd say, okay, then. But I knew that that was their love language. They just wanted to hear your voice.

And she'd say, how's it going? I'd say, it's good. And she'd say, okay then. And that was it. So they had that real like Fargo-y type speech pattern. Well they didn't have quite that. Maybe I wasn't recognizing accents in the way that I love them now, but there wasn't really that heavy overtone, although it was Bismarck, you know,

which is even more Fargo-y than Fargo in its own. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, exactly. That was good. You did great Josh. Hey, thanks Would you when you were up in Idaho, would you do things all together? I mean, I'm certainly you were up in Idaho, would you do things altogether? I mean, I'm certainly you're off in the woods setting your guys on fire. Uh, but we're the group activities. It was, that's all it really was.

Okay. And, and I, you know, when you're a kid like that and the days are long, you know, it feels like one day just takes forever, you know? You know, it feels like one day just takes forever, you know, yeah and You know It's funny how much I I know you agree already. It's how much you long for those days now, you know Yeah, cuz now we're so much older. You guys are way older than me. I So your days are fucking numbered This could be it.

I will say, no one has ever said this, but we had a guest yesterday and they said the same thing. So I don't know what's happened. It's only based on looks, guys. The summer light is not doing well for us. You know what? Zoom keeps telling me to update it and I feel like maybe that's the problem.

Yeah, it's definitely an update issue. Yeah, it's all software. I know we look like shit, Josh, this is software. This is a software issue. Did you, what about, I'm assuming it's not a restaurant culture when you're up in that lake in the middle of nowhere, so who was the chef? Who was cooking?

Well, it was done by everybody. It was very much everyone pitches in, everyone does stuff. I mean, it was, you know, led the Camille and my, my, my mom sort of led the charge. But, uh, you know, and my grandma was a good, she was a good cook, but also there were times when she would make me a lunch and I'd take a bite of a sandwich and the plastic on the cheese would still be there. So it was kind of a smart bomb. You know, you never knew. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. I still, I mean, I long for a individual piece of cheese that comes in plastic. I mean, who doesn't? I feel like we're getting a lot of stuff like straight from the dairy and it's like, I know it's healthier, but. But I long for a slice. I like that somebody put the care and consideration

and put a little piece of plastic around the cheese I'm about to eat. I'm a sucker for Velveeta still. Yeah. You know, I'll, you know, the Velveeta, boy, it's, I know it's not real. I mean, I know it exists, so it is real, but it melts like a motherfucker.

That's great. Yeah. We had a real, or I at least had a real passion for old easy cheese back in the day. Just because of its ease. Well, you'd spray it out like whipped cream on a cracker and it sort of had a nice sort of nice shape. It tricks your mind into thinking you're getting something else. Yeah. Yeah. My old man, I'll walk in still and he's eating this stuff that's simply called pub cheese.

Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, very orange. It's not a natural orange, much like Velveeta is just like, sort of like a self tanning look to it. Like tons of self tanner. It's cheap.

They make it in a strip mall tanning place. Yeah. So spin it, take the bikini off of it. Hit it again. Uh, your three kids, do they, uh, travel well? There's a bit of an age gap. Did they travel well as a group? Actually, there're such experienced.

They have so many stamps at this point. Yeah, right. You know, they kind of long to go on tour. I think things like a tour bus and the, you know, I mean, it is, it's such a different way to go. You go to a festival and you're coming in the back door and you have, you know, easy cheese and you know, Velveeta on the rider, you know?

I mean, that's the dream. That is, isn't it though? Yeah, and somebody, you know how, you know the best tasting easy cheese, the kind somebody else paid for? Now you wanna talk easy? You don't even have to go to the, it's so easy, you don even have to go to the, it's so easy.

You don't have to go to the store. That's the kind of ease I'm into for that cheese. Yeah. I think there's probably a certain amount of guilt when you pay for easy cheese yourself. Yeah. Do they, when, I mean, were they on tour, but too young to stay up for the show? And did they reach an age where they would stay up for it? Yeah. I mean, you know, I brought my daughter out when she was two.

Great. And it was just, it was me and, and, you know, my mom or my brother would come out and. Cause I just, you know, Touring is a funky place. You know, when, you know, if you do a standup tour, you, you, especially that, because you're just primarily alone. Totally. Yeah.

There's no, there's no vibes. Yeah. And, and, and, but being on tour with people you've known for years, you kind of, you know, after years, you've said everything you need to say that's deep. So you're kind of, you just, we default by just sort of making fun, you know, of stuff, it's a way to survive. And, uh, and so I think I, it can be a lonely place. And so for me, that's always a recharge of the battery is, uh,

to have them come out. It's always something I like. You, uh, I, uh, since you mentioned fun, I do want to mention that you're in a particularly favorite Portlandia sketch of mine. Oh, yeah. Disappointing gay. Disappointing gays. Yeah.

And it's a, it's a really you and Nick Swartzen, right? Is he the other disappointing gay? Who's such a scene, scene, scene stealing bastard. Yeah, he is. You held your own, but he is a scene stealer. But it's very funny idea. You guys are renting it or staying guest house guests. We're house guests. We're visiting.

I'm I'm Carrie's brother. Oh, that's right. And you're just like really fratty and and dirty. And I I hate to say, well, we're just so broed out. Like, yeah, you broed out. That's as as was the case with Portlandia, there're just so brod out. Like, yeah, you brod out. That's as, as was the case with Portlandia. There's just on the cutting edge. Like I was in Crocs way before this whole Crocs thing.

Yeah. The Crocs was, I'm not saying I did it, but I probably did it, you know, that explosion and Swarston had this great line. He was like, uh, you know, uh, Armisen's like, where, where'd you guys meet? And he was like, you know, Armisen's like, where'd you guys meet? And he was like, ESPN Zone. You guys are kind of lying in each other's arms. You fall asleep on the couch, you're just like covered in chips and stuff.

And they're like, I don't think they're gay. For the perfect size for that too. I'm 6'5". And you know, Swarsten, he's like a perfect to be held in my arms you know. It's really good. Yeah it actually felt quite nice as I recall. Yeah he's a good guy to put your arms around.

Yeah a decent, a really decent cuddle. It is just a, it's so delightful. I mean it's been forever I feel like since I've seen you but this is, it's been so nice to catch up and chat, man. Yeah, I really appreciate it. It's good to see you too. And it's nice to meet you, Josh. You son of a bitch. Yeah.

We do have some questions for you that Josh is going to ask you now. These are the speed round questions. All right, hold on. Get ready. All right. Go set an action figure on fire and have a quick cig and come back and we'll ask you these questions. You know those, I keep thinking of their G.I. Joes

and you know those G.I. Joe cartoons used to end with like them telling a, you know, a helpful lesson. And then it was like, you know, knowing it's half the battle. I just feel like the amount one of them wanted to be like, don't set us on fire. G.I. Joe. Especially mine in particular would, it would be like, if you got to smoke smoke,

but don't set us on fire. You know what I mean? Like if you're, if we have to pick, you know. Right. Yeah. All right, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?

Adventurous. What is your favorite means of transportation? Right now, boat. Oh, good one. Not cruise ship. Not cruise ship. Not cruise ship, not the Netflix poop cruise. Oh, don't even get me started.

Jealous. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? This is easy, the Addams family. Great. Great. If you had to be stranded on a desert island

with one member of your family, who would it be? I'm gonna go with Wolfie, my littlest one right now. All right. All right, great. He's still in that silly dancing sort of one right now. All right. All right, great. He's still in that like silly dancing sort of age right now. And you're from Palm Desert or Palm Springs? What's your hometown? Palm Desert. Palm Desert.

Would you recommend Palm Desert as a vacation destination? Absolutely. I'm on the Chamber of Commerce. Is that a real thing? Wait, what is that? Is that a real thing? I think so. Yeah, well I'm on it.

Yeah. So I don't know if it's real or not. Are you really on something? No, but well, am I on something now? Not now. Oh my God. It's early. It's late in the podcast and this has turned into who's on first. So yes, absolutely is what you say. Absolutely. Seth has our final questions. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? So yes, absolutely is what you say. Seth has our final questions. Have you been to the Grand Canyon?

Oh yes, yes. And was it worth it? Absolutely, so grand. Yeah, so grand. I kind of knew there was no way you were ending up on the other side of the Grand Canyon. Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

Well, this is a delight. Thank you so much for your time and fantastic stories. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is a delight. Thank you so much for your time and fantastic stories. Wish I could have met Cap. Wish I could have met Camille. Feel like. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Same for Frankie and. Addy. Frank and Addy. I think we, I think we, did you name one of yours, Camille? Yeah. My daughter is Camille. We named our daughter Addy.

So there you go. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Keep it going. Yeah, my daughter is Camille. We named our daughter Addie. So there. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Keep it going. Yeah. All right. Be well, Josh. Yeah. Thanks for your summer. Thanks so much. Ciao. Cap and Camille were the real deal, we're the real deal We're frickin' fantastic, cheese with some plastic Hot barrel smokin', some ridin' and ropin' Cap with some good shot, pour an Ascot Grandparents We always admired In Summer heat go Up to Idaho

Lake Van Der Ray So far away Toyota, Van Nuyck, and hang out with his cousins Talk on walkie talkies, come in rubber ducky, rubber ducky From a duckie so far north Couldn't go much higher Alone in the woods He'd set shit on fire Shit on fire Smoking cigarettes

And set the toys on fire Kick some rocks Light, fingers on fire Seattle Woodstock to perspire