Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - JUDY GREER Ate Shrimp For Breakfast
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Hi, Pashi.
Hi, Sufi.
Do you have trick-or-treaters?
Not really.
You live in a sort of walkie area.
Yeah, but people need to get into the building in order to trick-or-treat here.
Yeah, right.
And it's, we have had them in the past, but it's very rare.
It's almost like our New Hampshire situation, which is very different,
but very similar
in terms of number of trick-or-treaters.
Right.
We were at the top of a cul-de-sac.
You had to put a lot of work in to get up to our house.
Which is why mom always had full-sized candy bars
for people who made the trip.
Yep.
She appreciated the effort and would reward you as such.
Yeah.
Somebody asked me recently, my best Halloween costume.
I couldn't remember, were you or I a pile of garbage?
I think you.
I think so too.
And dad did an incredible job.
Dad cut up strips of paper
and made me look like a pile of garbage,
which was a request I had made.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know I was in Oven one year.
It was pretty good.
Good Oven?
Good Oven.
I was a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.
I couldn't tell you right now which one I was,
but yeah, I had some good stuff.
You cared about them and I did not.
About Halloween costumes?
No, about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It was weird.
There's very few things where I think even that two year age difference, you caught the
crest of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Yeah.
I feel like now you've got kids.
I feel like you didn't really care much for Halloween for maybe the last 30 years. Yeah. And I would say I barely like now you've got kids. I feel like you didn't really care much for Halloween
for maybe the last 30 years.
Yeah, and I would say I barely care now.
Yeah, I find it hard to care too.
And I also, now I'm at a point where I,
I guess when I was younger, when I was more late 20s,
I'd be excited for Halloween parties.
Cause you know, it's like, yeah, I don't know. It was just like more fun. Now, if I get invited to a Halloween parties, because, you know, it's like, yeah, I don't know, it was just like
more fun.
Now, if I get invited to a Halloween party, I'm like, I don't want to have to put together
a costume.
Well, we've got, you know, we went to a friend's 50th that was costume based.
Uh-huh.
And it was 80s costumes.
Oh, right.
Oh, that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that was fun.
But I was, I felt the burden of it.
And then we're going to another 80s theme party
for another friend's 50th in a couple of weeks.
Are you going to wear the same outfit?
No, I think because Alexi's going to go to this one.
So we're trying to think of something we can do together.
Yeah, that's good.
Also yours was inspired by the 80s
at that 50th birthday party, but it wasn't 80s.
It was MacGruber, which technically is also MacGyver,
but it mostly just looked like I was wearing a vest.
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
Yeah.
Axel, very exciting, because the,
having kids who are bad at making decisions
is so heartbreaking during Halloween,
just because Ash is going back and forth.
Does he want to be a prince? Does he want to be a dragon?
Does he want to be a knight?
Like, it's all obviously in the same medieval realm,
but he can't land on anything.
Addy's kind of fine with anything,
although she's kind of leaning into Princess,
which is great.
Sure, yeah.
Axel, you know, he's the dreamer of the bunch.
He's got the eye for flair.
And Alexi the other day took him into a Salvation Army
and said, just look around here and see if there's anything
you think might be.
And he found, like, a black pillbox hat with a veil on it.
And he literally walked over and grabbed it.
He's like, I'm gonna be an old lady.
And so he's gonna be an old lady.
And I think his cousin, Agnes, might be an old man.
And if they actually stick with that, it's going to be the best Halloween ever.
Yeah.
Because he's like, I need a wig, I need a guay wig, I need glasses, I need a cane, and I will be an old lady.
That's really good.
Do you think he has a good old lady voice?
Oh, interesting. To be like, trick or treat, trick or treat. That's really good. Do you think he has a good old lady voice?
Oh, interesting. To be like,
Trick or treat, trick or treat.
I bet if you told him, yeah, I think he can do that.
And I'm glad you reminded me to do it.
Yeah.
I think also they are familiar with Disney's Robin Hood.
And Robin Hood has that old man voice
when he's like, arms for the poor.
Yeah, tell him to watch that.
Yeah, for inspo.
We're about to get up upon recording this
in like an hour, I'm gonna get on the train with the boys.
And you know, this is their weekly screen time.
They have two hours of screen time.
Yeah.
And usually they watch something together on an iPad,
but recently they're having their split
where Axel still wants to watch Paw Patrol and Ash thinks Paw Patrol sucks.
So I have to load up an iPad for Ash and then Axel can watch Paw Patrol on my phone.
But somebody just recommended, and I'm really hoping they like it, Phineas and Ferb, which
I've never had any reason to watch.
But somebody said, oh, that's,
I mean, your kids are gonna love that.
So I'm kind of hopeful.
Yeah.
Because I feel like they don't watch anything that's funny,
other than maybe Minions, and I really like when they laugh.
Yeah.
So.
The SpongeBob, have they done SpongeBob?
It didn't quite take with them.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't, I mean, it was not my time for SpongeBob,
but I feel like that was such a hit for so long.
And apologies to anyone on our train car,
because Axel does not, cannot,
figure out that just because he's wearing headphones
doesn't mean everybody can't hear him when he screams.
He screams a lot when he's watching stuff.
What does he scream for?
If there's like a surprise in a movie,
he really screams.
Yeah.
Also, download a great mouse detective.
Do you feel like they'll like that one?
Do you remember that one?
I don't know if I even remember that one.
It's like a Disney movie where it's like a Sherlock Holmes, but he's a mouse.
Yeah. I mean, it seems like it's in the Wings house.
It seems like it.
It's related to us.
So, we got that going.
Also, I get pizza for the train.
And I will say I look like a lunatic
because I have, basically I've got my bag.
I end up carrying the boys' backpacks.
I also have my niece with me.
So it's three kids.
I'm carrying a lot of shit.
I also have pizza.
I get a box of pizza.
So I've got a, which is unwieldy to carry. And we're going to Grand Central. And I guess the other, I get a box of pizza, which is unwieldy to carry.
And we're going to Grand Central.
And I guess the other day, Ash told me
I was running ahead of the three of them.
And someone, he was very upset
because he heard someone say like,
oh my God, that's Seth Meyers.
And someone else said,
why is he so far ahead of his kids?
And I just think it ultimately,
I have found my parenting style is like,
make them afraid they're gonna lose you as opposed to heard from behind. And I just think it ultimately I have found my parenting style is like,
make them afraid they're going to lose you as opposed to heard from behind.
Yeah. Well, it's like ducks.
It's like when you see ducks in a pond.
Yeah.
The mother's always out in front and then the little ones follow.
That's how they learn.
But the pizza thing works out really well.
And the nice thing about pizza, you can just hand them a piece of pizza on the train,
they eat a piece of pizza.
And every week, Alexia I've established an incredible mother, puts health first,
wants her kids to eat, right?
Little frustrated that they're having pizza once a week.
And she said, what if I made them soba noodles?
And I just said, I think she could tell like the authentic pain
on my face when I was like,
I don't want to feed them noodles on the drain.
I don't want to be-
They barely pay attention to anything other than the screen.
Right, when they're watching, yeah.
Yeah, the notion that they could also manipulate a fork
in the necessary twirl.
No way, this is 100% this story is me in the seat in front of them,
leaning back, feeding them noodles like they're birds in a nest.
Yeah.
So I've held that hope. Also, I think when we first started doing it,
I would get just like, you know, New York pizza.
I would get some slices of New York pizza.
Yeah.
And then, you know, once again, I applaud her.
Alexi found a healthier pizza place.
But it's so funny, because even the boys are like,
what happened to that, you know, first pizza?
That garbage pizza.
Yeah, what happened to that garbage pizza
that was good and salty?
Are you doing full box?
Are you doing a full box of pizza?
The current place we go are like little boxes.
Like if you think like they're like,
so I get like three little stacker boxes.
It's easier to carry than the New York pizzas.
But, and I'm gonna tell you a little secret.
I maybe overorder a little bit
so daddy can have a piece or two.
You know what I mean?
I let them have their first pass.
But do they give up the goat?
Do they get to where you're going
and tell Alexi how much food you've eaten as well?
As you pointed out, they literally-
They're not paying attention.
They pay no attention to me.
I could smoke a giant blunt.
Speaking of giant blunts,
I did watch What Happens Live,
the Andy Cohen show the other day.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Andy Cohen wasn't smoking a big ol' blunt, was he?
No, the other guest was Snoop Dogg.
Oh, yeah, he was.
Snoop Dogg walked in.
I've met, I've crossed paths with him.
Snoop Dogg hosted SNL when I was there.
Just an absolute gentleman.
Great thing about Snoop Dogg as well.
Huge Steelers fan.
Loves talking Pittsburgh.
Loves talking Steelers.
But he enters a room exactly the way you want Snoop Dogg to enter a room.
Carrying a boombox.
Now also has a giant team of people, any one of which I'm sure would be happy to carry the boombox for him.
I think it means nothing to Snoop if he's not carrying the boombox.
Yeah.
Carrying a boombox, playing his music.
He's rapping along with it.
And then he goes into his dressing room
and I just poked in to say hello
and I'm, you know, a cartoon joint.
Yeah.
Like a joint that if it was a Halloween costume,
it would have to be inflatable.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha haatable. But what a great guy.
And then his buddy,
who's Snoop Dogg's unlikely best friend right now?
Oh boy, I don't know.
Martha Stewart.
Oh, right, right, right.
And so Martha Stewart was our bartender.
And what a night it was.
There are times where, you know, obviously,
we've both been lucky enough to meet people
whose work we enjoy on a creative level.
But it is sometimes extra surreal when you're sitting with
an adult Snoop Dogg who is thoughtful and reflective,
and yet you also remember when that album came out,
how the dumb fun you were having listening to it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. And he is like, I've crossed paths with him a couple of times.
And I remember we were shooting this commercial and he was like tied to a chair
and was a hostage.
And Julie Louis-Dreyfus and Kamel Nanjiani were in the spot.
And I had to give him an alternate line.
And he had, his eyes were closed
and he was like fake tied to a chair.
And I just whispered to him these couple new lines.
And I came back and the director was like,
does he have him?
I was like, I don't know.
There wasn't much acknowledgement of that.
I was even there and I talked to him and I don't know. There wasn't much acknowledgement of, that I was even there.
And I talked to him and I don't know.
And then you roll on the next take
and he delivers them perfectly.
There are lines that have been written for Snoop Dogg to say
and there is no Snoop Dogg but Snoop Dogg.
Like he is so him.
And that's what people love.
Like they don't want him to be anything other than what he is.
And man, is he what he is.
He really is wonderful.
And he was recently did a thing on the Today show.
And some people at NBC said he came up with this really funny idea,
which was to give the weather report,
but just for cities that sounded like marijuana slang.
So there's like a blunt Missouri.
And so he just was doing.
And yeah, I mean, he's the best.
It was really cool to see him.
And happy Halloween, everybody.
You know, I think this is going to come out in the neighborhood.
Yeah, spooky season full on.
Spooky season. And you know, we'd love to put out, before we get to the wonderful Judy Greer,
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And here's Judy Greer.
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And Judy, you're in a new environs and you're really enjoying it.
I love it here. I love it here.
I love it here so much.
It's so beautiful and it smells really good.
And the wallpaper that you cannot see
that I am looking at that is in front of me is so cool.
And as a compliment, I would like to say
it reminds me of my grandma.
And yeah, it's really nice and peaceful here at this studio.
Yeah.
Rabbit Grin, who is our production company,
has invited Judy into their home.
Because I cried when I got audio equipment shipped to me
to do this at home.
You didn't even want to ship it back.
You're like, I just want to bring it to you.
I want to put it in your hands and be done with it.
I was so, I had such PTSD from the pandemic
when I had to record things by myself
when we couldn't leave the house.
And I was like, can I just pay to go to a recording studio
out of my own pocket so I don't have to set it up in my closet,
surrounded by sofa cushions and my bathing suit.
They were like, we can just send you to this place.
I was like, oh, okay.
Yeah. Well, it's made a real difference because I feel like,
based on the way you're describing it,
I would not want to be talking to bathing suit closet.
No, you wouldn't.
Did you, we're so happy to be talking to you.
You mentioned your grandmother.
Were you close to your grandparents growing up?
Ish, I mean, I was close to,
so the William Morris wallpaper grandma,
she actually recently just passed away.
She was 95, but I think the super close stuff
happened as I was an adult.
So I think the last,
I don't know, 20 years we got closer.
Because also she lived in Wilmington,
North Carolina or outside of it,
and I shot so much stuff there.
So I actually physically was just around her more.
Yeah. I think that's a was just around her more. Yeah.
That's a nice, I think that's a nice way
to connect with a grandpa.
I'd like to have an actual reason to be around them
as opposed to I'm gonna go visit you
and I wanna learn more about you.
But if it happens naturally, I bet that's great.
I think in general, it's nicer to be around people
in smaller doses than to force a week long visit.
Maybe, I don't know.
She was like pretty intensely independent.
And she, I remember her saying that she loved the pandemic
because she didn't have to have anyone over anymore.
Yeah, that's nice.
I think that is maybe giving off
a less classic grandmother vibe of my home
as a warm and open place.
Yeah.
Which side of your family was she?
Dad's mom.
Okay. Yeah.
And it was, I remember saying something
about my grandma to a friend of mine recently
and he was like, you have a grandma?
Like it is kind of, she was pretty old.
Like she. Yeah.
Anyway, but yeah.
I mean, I guess, yeah. I mean, I get what you said, late nineties. So Like she. Yeah. Anyway. But yeah. I mean, I guess, yeah.
I mean, I get, we used to late 90s.
So that helps.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But we haven't had a grandmother for years.
Yeah.
Years.
Yeah.
But our grandmother, Addie made it to almost 100.
She was 98 or 99.
And grandma seemed like she was 100. She was 98 or 99 and grandma seemed like she was 100.
I think our other, my dad's mom, like the first day I met her I would have guessed she was 100.
And even when you saw pictures of her on her wedding day she looked like 80.
I mean I thought my parents were 100 when they had me though. Like everyone seemed 100 when we were
young right? Yeah. Yeah. It's, But when I do the math of like where,
again, I had kids later too,
so like when I'm like, oh my God.
Like my age now, like when I think about like
where I was in my life and what my dad's age was,
I'm like, oh geez.
My kids, I'm a older dad at my kid's school.
Oh yeah.
Well, my husband had kids before with this other lady.
And if we had had our own child,
he was like, it would be so weird
because I would have gone from being the actual youngest dad
at the school to being the oldest dad at the school.
Yeah.
I have a buddy who just, he has kids.
One of them's in college.
The other one's like a junior in high school.
And then he just had a baby with his new fiance.
And it's, I've got another friend
and someone gave him a shirt that says dad or grandpa.
Wait, I need that shirt because my friend is 59
and just had a baby with his new and improved,
although I like the old one too.
You read the reboot? With his reboot, and I like the old one too. He re-did a reboot?
With his reboot, and I mean, yes, both of,
he has three children from his first marriage
and the youngest is in college.
And now he has an actual infant.
I wanna get the dad or grandpa t-shirt so bad.
Yeah, I mean, it might have to be something
that you just have made yourself.
But I would imagine it also. A Google is probably going to go to.
By the way, if they sell it anywhere, it's in LA.
That's why I.
We like coined that, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, dad and grandpa was invented in LA.
We, my son though the other day, because I think he's clocked that the other dads are younger,
he's very sweet and he said, you know, you look really good for 50.
And I was like, that's very sweet,
but also let's not talk about that anymore.
That's so cute that he said that,
cause in some way he was like, somehow,
I mean, he's already gonna need therapy
cause he's like projecting and trying to take on
your maybe feelings of that.
Oh, that's really sweet.
It is really, he's a very sweet kid.
He's gonna get therapy no matter how.
I'm a big fan of therapy.
My husband is older than my dad was when my dad retired.
But like my dad retired young, first of all, to be fair to my husband.
He retired pretty young, but like my husband's older than that age.
And I remember when my dad retired and I was like,
whoa, like he's gonna die soon.
Like he retired, but now, yeah, husband older.
Why did your father retire early?
Well, just cause he could.
So glad you asked.
This is actually what I wanted to talk about
when I came here today.
He was an engineer at Ford Motor Company and
it was like Don Draper times when he started, like every man had like an assistant, like
a secretary, right? Like they had like each engineer had their own secretary and then
as time went on, it was like, oh, maybe you guys can like, maybe four guys can share one
secretary and like, oh, maybe you guys like can have like one secretary for the floor of engineers.
And then it was like, actually, we're going to move you all out of your offices into this
like big open space.
And it was kind of like trending in that direction.
And so things were just changing.
And then they had a lot of young new engineers coming in.
And so then they gave the older engineers these opportunities to retire early.
And so my dad was like, I'll take it.
Yeah.
That's what our mom did that as a teacher.
Yeah, my mom took the role.
They were like, hey, there's like the first three of the sort of older set.
If you're willing to walk out the door, we got like bonuses A, B, and C. And if you're
the first one, it's a bigger bonus.
And I feel like-
And I'll tell you how that conversation goes.
Josh, you be the administrator and I'll be mom.
Start the conversation.
Okay. Well, we're offering a package-
Yes.
What? Did your dad have a robust post-retirement life?
Because our dad just retired very late.
And I think everybody, the two of us, and our mom,
were all very concerned about how,
what his life would be like without a job.
Did your dad thrive in retirement?
Yes, now, but at the time, he had this big idea,
it's sort of heartbreaking, but he had this idea
that they, he wanted to like do like,
he wanted a big wood shop and he wanted to like build things
with wood with his dad, who was at the time still alive.
So my father takes early retirement.
My parents moved to this like house out in the country outside of Toledo, Ohio.
And like, like you would even think it was Spain.
Listen to me and look at me.
I like have to say Ohio like there's any chance in the world that I am not
Where did you start? He was an engineer, a Ford engineer in Detroit.
Which Toledo do you think I'm talking about?
I think...
Okay, so we are in Ohio, not Spain.
Yeah, so then they buy this like country house and my dad has this huge barn
that he turns into an amazing workshop and
he's like going to build wooden things with his dad, my grandpa Evans, who I loved so
much and then get it all set up. And unfortunately, like my grandpa passes away. And so now my
parents are living in the middle of nowhere. They don't know anyone. They don't have a
lot of friends. He has this big workshop. He's very depressed because he lost his father
and now he's retired.
And he's driving my mother out of her mind.
And she's like, you gotta get a job, dude.
And so of course he gets a job at the local Home Depot.
And so that becomes his like retirement hobby.
Yeah. Gotcha.
Job, hobby job I got.
Gotcha, is he still working there?
They have moved a second time to another town in Spain,
I mean, Ohio.
And he does-
Barcelona, Illinois.
There.
Yeah.
They're in now a town called Cary, Ohio,
and he works at the Ace Hardware store there.
So he just like, yeah.
He couldn't shake it.
He's a working man.
He couldn't shake it.
He loves it, yeah.
And it's good for my parents to not be
in the same house all day long.
I think that was the real fear.
As much as mom said she was worried about like
dad's sense of purpose without work,
it definitely was just him being around more.
Yeah, that he's around, I know.
Yeah, yeah.
Well then our parents built like a little addition
onto basically just their master bedroom.
So now our mother has a chair where she can go read,
and she calls it Gray Gardens.
And anytime my father, I think, is bothering her,
she just says, all right, I'm going to go read.
And our mother can read for four hours at a clip
and just disappear into whatever it is she's-
Yeah, in her Gray Gardens.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
My mom reads one book every day.
Amazing.
Wow.
Yeah, our mother is prolific as well.
She's not a book a day, but she tears through them.
But I don't think my mom retains anything.
That's, am I?
So our mom writes down a grade for each book.
And the great thing about our mom is it's a one to 10 grade,
but based on the grades,
she's really grading from eight to 10.
It's so rare for anything.
And I think that like speaks to what a lovely reader she is.
She doesn't want, she never wants to burn an author.
Yeah.
And so I feel like an eight,
if I'm looking for a recommendation,
if she has eights on her list,
she won't give those to me.
No, a hundred. When she describes an eight,
she's describing a two or a three.
And then you say, what did it get?
And she says an eight.
She's like, I didn't like the characters.
It fell apart right away.
What did she teach?
She was a French teacher, a middle school French teacher.
But yeah.
Oh, wow.
I mean, I would be so curious what her tens are.
Oh yeah.
Do you know any tens off the top of your head?
That's such a good, I mean, they're constant tens.
I don't, I'm gonna find out.
Yeah, we'll get you,
we'll get you my mom's list of tens.
I would really like, yeah, the list of tens.
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What was your, what were your sibling situation?
Did you have?
Not that I know of, no.
I mean, I've never done any of those DNA tests, but.
But there were no siblings living in the house?
No.
Okay, cause that would have been a dead giveaway.
No, there was this have been a dead giveaway. No.
There was this other lady who was there.
No, she, I didn't know if she was another mom
or an older sister.
No, there was just me and I wanted,
and still do let's be honest, so desperately a sibling.
And I used to lie to my babysitters
and say I had this older sister,
but my parents and her had falling out
and that's why there's no photographs of her anywhere
because they got rid of everything to do with her
because they just hate her.
And I mean, my babysitters are like, uh-huh, sure, yes.
But yeah, no.
Depending on who you ask in the time of day,
I was an accident or they just didn't want any more than one.
Gotcha. Gotcha, gotcha.
Does it matter?
And were you close with your parents?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great.
Yeah, I think we were really close.
I mean, therapy's undoing a lot of that, but.
Right.
No, we were.
Therapy's teaching you that you were not in fact close
and it was all a mirage.
Turns out I hated them. No. No, we were. They're teaching you that you were not in fact close and it was all a mirage. Turns out I hated them.
No.
No, we were really close growing up.
It was kind of hard not to be
because it was just the three of us.
And my mom is very communicative.
Were you always dinner at the table together?
We were breakfast at the table.
Okay.
So we did breakfast together almost every morning
and then dinner was sort of haphazard.
Often, my mom is, I hope she doesn't listen to this,
was a lot of times microwave popcorn.
That was dinner.
Because they weren't working folks, you know, so.
What age were you when you guys moved to Woodshop, Ohio?
I was out, I was already gone.
Okay, gotcha.
So Woodshop, Ohio happened maybe a few years
after I'd moved.
I know I was living in LA.
So yeah, a couple of years after I left the house.
And you were a suburban, like you were near Detroit?
Yeah, suburban Detroit, yeah.
I went to high school in a suburb called Lavonia,
which is like basic.
It's like somewhere between Detroit and Ann Arbor,
if that means anything to anyone.
And yeah, it was, you know, pretty at the time,
like blue collar, normal suburb.
And did you guy, what would you do for,
were you a road trip family?
Were you an airplane family?
Road trip.
I so rarely went in an airplane
and actually I was thinking about this
when obviously getting ready to come here today
because something that I, I'm like,
I understand and I didn't understand.
Like when I was little, was little, we always drove.
So when you live in Michigan, there's the Upper Peninsula, everyone just calls it up
north.
And so every summer, my parents would take a week-long vacation and we would drive up
north and they would rent some, we would rent a cabin on a lake.
And the lakes in Northern Michigan are beautiful.
So we would rent a cabin on a lake and we would drive up to this cabin.
So we're really six-ish hours in the car or something like that, like near Traverse City,
this place called Elk Rapids actually, we went to quite a bit.
But anyway, we would drive up north to a cabin on a lake or a house on a lake and we would
stay there for a week and then we would drive home and that was our summer vacation for
the most part.
But I never understood, I was like, why?
I've like never been to Disney.
I have no ties to Disney, anything like my parents never took me there.
We never went to Europe.
We never got on airplanes like ever, ever, ever.
Like to go on an airplane was so bananas.
And now looking back on it, I was sort of resentful growing up because I was like, I
haven't traveled anywhere.
Like I have never been anywhere that you couldn't drive to in a car.
Um, but now I like, as an adult, I just, I get it.
Like it must've been, I mean, you're just tired, right?
Like all the time and the idea of having to go somewhere.
And like, when you really travel, like when you take a trip and do stuff,
like it's kind of exhausting, you know, like, if you're a tourist and, and
like, I can imagine now, like, I want to just go sit in a cabin on a lake. Like, nothing
seems better to me than just sitting and staring at a lake for a week. But I didn't understand
at the time, like, why we couldn't go to more adventurous, exciting places.
But also, just the idea of like like a road trip sounds arduous,
but it's so much easier than an airport.
Yeah.
And just like a six hour drive.
A six hour drive is like try getting on an airplane
to go somewhere and having your total time of driving
to the airport, getting on the plane, getting off
and driving to where you're going.
If you can do that in under six, like that's a short flight.
But you guys have to remember, I'm like 80.
And so that was, back then, it was like not an ordeal.
Like, remember how there wasn't,
like there wasn't security at airport.
Oh yeah, no.
Yeah, no, true.
Like you would just like park next to the airport
and leave your car there for a week
and like walk to the gate and then get on a plane.
So at the time it wasn't like the way it is now.
Like now from Los Angeles to go to Phoenix,
I'm never not like, is it easier to fly or drive?
Like that one is a real toss up for me
because we just had a wedding in Phoenix over the summer
and I was saying to my husband, I was like,
we should just drive.
And he's like, what, you're mad.
And I was like, no, because by the time we go to the airport
and we go through all this shit, can I swear?
Yeah.
Just to get on this fucking plane and then we fly.
Oh, don't go crazy.
And then we get off the plane.
I mean, like Judy, calm down.
Like we get on the plane, you get off the plane.
You have to get on the shuttle to get the rental car.
It's like, I'm like, just drive, we'll just drive.
Yeah, yeah. But that's not a bad drive. It's like, I'm like, just drive, we'll just drive. Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's not a bad drive.
It's like an eight hour drive, I feel like, from LA.
It is longer than I thought, by the way.
Josh just got married in the Catskills.
Ooh.
Yes.
And friends of ours, like the day,
I feel like the day before, who lived in Cleveland,
basically were like, I think we should drive from,
I think it's a seven hour drive.
Because there was no real near airport,
so they could have flown to Albany and then done a drive.
And so they drove from Cleveland and they were like,
it was great.
Oh, I didn't know they did that.
Yeah, they just got in the car, like listened to podcasts and said,
and again, also I think like when you have children,
doing a long drive without them is also like, that's your
Disney world.
Dreamy?
Yeah.
I know.
That's the dream.
I just drove across the country this summer with my friend who has the old kids and the
baby.
After my grandmother passed away, we did a road trip.
He met me in North Carolina after her memorial and I wanted some of her furniture and so
we rented a minivan and loaded it up with her furniture and drove it across country because he was like, I'm
going to have this baby and I'm never going to be able to do anything again and then I'm
going to die.
And so his new, the, the, um, the reboot wife was like, yeah, you can do it.
You can drive across country with Judy.
And so we did this road trip and I've, in all of my years,
I've never done a cross country road trip.
So I checked that box and it was so cool.
Were you ever bored or did you love the whole time?
I loved it.
I mean, I was never bored.
It's like really, there is something kind of like,
the monotony is like meditative,
but I think I'm at an age where I do enjoy just like that
mellow like staring out a window for two hours and just kind of them being like, oh, like
it's been two hours.
I don't know, I can like, and meeting all the people and like, you know, where you stop
and spend the night and seeing the country and like all that stuff.
It's so much different than just like hurrying through airports all the time.
It's like, it was really nice.
Did you have a plan of where you would stop and stay
or did you kind of feel it out as you went?
He planned everything, but then told me
I could plan some things, but then didn't allow us
to do the things that I planned to do.
What were some of your overlooked plans?
Well, I like thrifting and antiquing.
And there was one city where he let me go to antique stores.
And also I was like, we have a whole minivan and it's not even filled with furniture yet.
But the problem was we were trying to make it, we were going to hear a lecture by this
meditation teacher in Florida and it kind of like messed
everything up. And then when we were in New Orleans, he really wanted to get these shrimp
that at a restaurant that like opened really late in the day. And so then we had to like wait around,
and then it kind of messed up like the drive from New Orleans to my friend's house because
we were also stopping in San Antonio to dog sit for my friend overnight
because she needed a dog sitter
and her dog's kind of difficult.
And so I was like,
well, I'll be doing a cross country road trip
so I could probably be in San Antonio on that day
where you need that dog sitter.
How did that conversation start?
You're on the phone with a friend who lives in San Antonio
and they basically say like,
and then I got this whole dog-sitting issue.
Like, how'd it come up?
Well, because I wanted to see her.
She moved to San Antonio a year ago, and I was like,
hey, if I can make it through San Antonio,
will you guys be there? And she's like,
actually, we won't, because we have other friends in town,
and we're going to Austin for the night,
but I do need a dog sitter for Bowie.
And I was like, oh, okay.
She was like, you guys can spend the night at the house,
and then just, like, dog sit for Bowie.
So that's what we did. And, like, you guys can spend the night at the house and then just like dog sit for Bowie. So that's what we did.
And like it drove my friend, he was like incensed
that we had to do this.
And that was the one thing though,
where I really put my foot down and I was like,
no, we are going to babysit for Janet's dog.
This is important to me and I am,
I need to be a good friend to her and I miss her.
And this is like a way I can love her
and help her from Los Angeles.
I feel so terrible for you that you got,
you had one bullet in your chamber that you got to use,
and it was to babysit Bowie instead of going antiquing
in any of the major, or I should say exciting
American cities you've been to.
I did go antiquing in Uvalde, which is like,
Okay, oh, that's,
not the most uplifting place to antique,
because the big antique stores across from, which is like not the most uplifting place to antique
because the big antique store is across from a memorial.
Sure, yeah, that's definitely,
you definitely haven't seen Uvalde in many headlines
where it says don't miss the antiquing.
Did you, how did Bowie do the night you dogs out?
You said he's a difficult dog.
She was great.
Only meaning that like Bowie can't be around other dogs.
Okay.
And since they had just moved to San Antonio,
they didn't have someone like that they had in LA who could watch Bowie and spend the night with Bowie.
And then my friend Janet's mother-in-law does watch Bowie,
but then she just got a new cat and Bowie can't be around a cat.
And the mother-in-law, I mean, didn't wanna spend the night.
I don't really know the ins and outs of why they didn't,
but I'm assuming it's just because
they're still kind of new in town
and don't have like, you know, they're people yet.
Right. But friend of the year.
I think you were friend of the year for a bit.
Yeah.
How were the shrimp worth it?
They were actually really, really good.
I was so pissed about waiting around
for these shrimp too, man.
I was like, are you kidding?
And the restaurant didn't open until 11 or something
like that, and we had to wait around.
We had 11 o'clock at night or in the afternoon?
Afternoon.
OK, gotcha, good.
In the morning.
But that really cut into our drive time.
And then we did get to the shrimp place.
And then when we walked in and there was like people
in there eating, I like gave him the dirtiest look.
I was like, dude, we could have been here
at 10 eating shrimp.
Like it was open.
What was the name of this, the shrimp place that was?
I'm gonna have to text it to you
because I don't remember.
It was in the French Quarter.
It's called Morning Shrimp.
It's the only restaurant in America.
It's called Shrimp Faux, like no R, but Shrimp Faux Breakfast.
I will say, I would be very excited about a food-based road trip where I was with a
person who was very stubborn about needing to stop at weird places to get off time zone
food.
You need to drive across the country with Ajay Sehgal, because he will do that with you.
Do you think you would have had a worse time with someone else?
Was this the perfect person to drive with?
Yeah, I would have had a worse time with a lot of other people.
I think it was perfect.
I learned a lot.
And yeah, it's funny.
It was weird to do.
We've been friends for 20 years,
like really good friends for 20 years,
but we've never spent longer than like, you know,
I mean, we've worked together, but set doesn't totally count,
but like spending more than like three hours
or like a lunch or meal together, you know what I mean?
It was like, oh, okay.
Do you get a hotel room with like two queen beds
so you can chat at night or you guys go to your own?
Separate rooms.
I guess you have the whole day in the car,
you don't need to.
Yeah, and we have the whole day in the car
and we got separate hotel rooms and thank God for that.
Anyway, yes.
But it was interesting because like definitely on day one we were like,
oh wow, we're really doing this.
We're really like in a car together doing this.
So many of my people in show business that I know,
I met in New York and so for years we were just New York friends.
I was recently in LA and I had lunch with Andy Samberg and then he drove me back to my hotel
and it was this thing where I'm like,
we've known each other, I think 20 years,
I've never been in a car with you.
Where one of us is driving,
like we've been in the backseat of a taxi
and it's so funny to know,
cause again, the people you know from high school
and college are in cars with them all the time
and I was like, I didn't even know you could drive.
Yeah, like it's a whole different side of you.
I just drove my friend in Atlanta, my friend Lucky,
we were in Atlanta and I was driving us,
a lot of antiquing I'm noticing,
we were going to another antique store in Atlanta
and I was driving and like Lucky was even just saying,
he's like, not only like you driving a car,
but like I'm just never in a car that anyone else is driving.
Like being driven for him is like so crazy.
But yeah, it is weird when you know someone in one way
and then you're like,
did you ever have like daytime friends
and then your daytime friends
sometimes become nighttime friends?
And you're like, we've only,
I mean, I think it might be a girl thing where you're like,
let's go and like hike in Bronson Canyon.
And it's like someone that you get coffee with
or you work out with, or maybe you get lunch with. But then like there is a shift into nighttime friendship
and that feels like, whoa, like now we're like nighttime friends.
Is it dangerous? Is there a little bit of dangerous to it?
It's like, let's see.
I feel like the stakes get a little higher, you know?
I mean, like the outfits change, the venues change,
the people change, food changes, timing obviously, yeah.
Do you feel like you, do you transition well
to nighttime friend?
Do you think the people who make the leap with you
are satisfied?
That anymore, I don't think so.
I think I'm gonna be.
Do you now when you meet people, are you at the age
where you're like, and just so you know, we're not,
this is not gonna shift into nighttime.
Or I'm gonna go home at 830.
Yeah.
I was saying someone, like yesterday I was like, I like to begin the ascension,
like walk up the stairs of my house at 8.30,
like the ascension begins at 8.30
and then like lights out pretty early.
But no.
Our ascension I think is even earlier than that.
Is it?
Yeah.
We have such small children. Yeah, the children, and they're just gonna, they think, is even earlier than that. Is it? Yeah. We're such small children.
I say, yeah, the children, and they're just gonna, they're, uh,
they're going to be thrilled when they wake up. They do not care about when you ascended.
Their mornings are not based on that.
I feel like the last time I crashed at your apartment, Seth, uh, I like had
just gotten to town and you guys were like, all right, we're going to bed.
And it was seven o'clock and I was like, I'm in New York City, and I'm like, staying here.
I don't know what I'm going to do with myself, but it feels weird for me to go to bed at
7 PM when I just arrived.
And aren't you on the West Coast?
So that's like 4 PM for you.
Yeah.
I feel like I went out and walked around a little bit, but it was very cold, and I had
no purpose.
And you're like, I'm just going to force myself to do a thing because I'm here.
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Did you when do you remember the first time you were on a plane?
Um, I went with my mom.
She took me, her best friend Joan had a timeshare,
not to brag, in Miami.
Timeshare was, I should say,
that was the sexiest word when you heard people
had timeshared.
Yeah, I thought that's where grownups went to have sex.
That's 100% when I was little,
and someone was like, we have a timeshare,
and I'm like, oh!
Go get it. You must have a lot of kids.
Holy shit, you guys.
But I also, like timeshare is like such a thing
of our generation, like knowing what that is even.
But yes, my mom's friend Joan, who was single by the way,
had a timeshare in Miami.
And so for spring break, my mom and I flew to Miami.
That might not have been my first time on the plane,
but that's my first memory of being on a plane.
And I just remember Joan sat in the back
because she was a smoker.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then what was the Miami hang like?
It was pretty great.
I mean, Miami was awesome.
And her timeshare was right on the ocean.
It was there was so many apartments everywhere. I also like don't even think I'd ever stayed in
an apartment before. And I could stare at the ocean and I would wake up early and just like
look at it. And it was so incredible. And then one day, I remember this very vividly, I was looking
out at the ocean from the balcony and my mom was sitting on a bench in front
of the ocean underneath a palm tree and a coconut fell off of the palm tree onto the
sand near her, which at the time I was like, whoa, that's crazy.
And then I remember like fast forward to me being an adult and living in a shitty one bedroom here in Hollywood
and having yogurt that had facts on it.
And the fact on my yogurt of the day
was that more people die every year
from getting hit in the head with a coconut
than a shark attack.
And I was like, oh my God, I watched my mom escape death
when I was little and I had no idea that I could have seen my mom die.
Like, I could have been watching my mom,
admiring my mom, sitting in front of the ocean,
taking some time for herself,
and then watched her get killed by a coconut
or whatever thing.
I mean, it's a coconut, right?
Yeah.
Is it funny how you, if it had been,
if she'd almost been killed by a shark,
you would have remembered it. Whereas it took a yogurt container to tell you Is it funny how you, if it had been, if she'd almost been killed by a shark,
you would have remembered it.
Whereas it took a yogurt container to tell you
how harrowing that moment of it.
And if she had been killed,
you almost would have rooted it for it
to be a shark attack over a coconut.
100% like to, like actually, I mean,
I guess not for my mom,
cause that probably would have been really awful.
Like I guess if you were gonna ask me that probably would have been really awful. Scary versus just lights out.
Like I guess if you were going to ask me, would you rather die by a shark attack or
just have a coconut fall on your head?
I guess, yeah.
Yeah, you'd rather coconut.
But I think you'd rather tell people shark.
I think when this is over, I'm going to text my inner circle and say, if I happen to die
in a boring way near an ocean, will you please just say it was a shark attack?
Yeah. Please.
I think you can't tell a person,
you know, my mom died from a coconut and not,
I think if you heard that, it's almost impossible
not to make the sound effect in your head of what that,
like, whatever.
Like the sound, yeah.
Whatever the noise.
Yeah.
Ugh.
She didn't know she survived.
She's still with us.
In fact, I talked to her right before this
because I was asking her if I was allowed to share
a story about my dad on a podcast.
And then she was like, oh, the one where he blank?
And I was like, what are you talking about?
No, that happened too?
And she was like, yeah, that happened.
And I was like, mom, oh, no, that's not my memory of it.
No, I'm not telling that part of the story.
So wait, so it was the same story, but she had a part that was even more farther afield
of what you're willing to tell us?
Yes.
And do you have this with your parents where you, like things unfold as you age, like things
that you were like, oh, remember when you were like walking me, like things that you were like,
oh, remember when you were like walking me to school
and that guy was like, hey, what's up?
And then as you get older, you're like, oh yeah,
he had just exposed himself.
Oh yeah, like he was like a serial killer on the loose.
Oh yeah, after I dropped you off at class,
I called the cops and they arrested him
and he'd been the one killing like all the people.
Like not that that ever happened to me.
I think that happens to everybody.
I mean, I am from a suburb of Detroit, but they,
but that I feel like is often the case with stories with my parents where I'll be like,
hey mom, like can I tell the story of when we went to Wisconsin for that family trip?
And yes, then she proceeded to share another piece of information about that that I didn't know,
and I was like, pfft. So what was the first part that you were asking to share another piece of information about that that I didn't know and I was like,
pfft, no way.
So what was the first part that you were asking
to share with us?
Well because I was like.
Because it sounds like that one's safe to tell.
I wanted to share,
obviously we're talking about family trips
and so since my family trips were like generally like
drive up north and sit and stare at a lake,
we did have this one family trip that went really badly
because my dad almost died.
And it was like, we were driving,
I think our end game was like a lake in Minnesota.
So we weren't really veering far off of our usual.
It would seem like that's a safe place to go.
No coconuts.
No coconuts in Minnesota.
No sharks?
No, no, no sharks, leeches apparently, weird water skiing accidents.
But anyway, so we're driving to Minnesota via Wisconsin and some random, I shouldn't
say random, but apparently a relative of mine either owned or worked at this sort of like
dirty dancing kind of, in my memory, okay, my memory is it is like a dirty dancing kind of style resort, whereas like a big, huge like house and like
main building and then all these little like cabins like dispersed throughout the woods.
And so we were going there for like one or two nights to visit this cousin or second
cousin of my dad's and it was in Wisconsin and it happened to be on my 13th birthday.
And let me tell you, I was a very late bloomer.
So it could have been my 10th birthday if you saw a picture of me, like you would never
know.
So I'm just like, I'm just like actually praying to God that like I'll grow a boob or like
a pubic hair or just anything at all.
Like I just want to be like a regular 13 year old. And, and this was a big deal
trip because being an only child, it was always like the three of us in a hotel room, right?
Like always. So on this trip, my parents were like, we have a surprise for you. We've got
you your own little cabin. And I was like, oh my god, it was just the greatest. I mean,
to this day, I remember just like
thinking, like, I don't know if we can afford that, but I'm not saying a word about it.
This is so cool. Not really putting together that like we were relatives with the person
who owned the place. So probably we weren't paying for any of it. But I got my own room.
And that was so badass. And so it was like this dinner up at the big lodge building and then it was after
dinner and my parents and this cousin were like having drinks in the main dining room
and I was like, I'm going to go to my room. And I'd brought like a stack of fashion magazines
and I just had the best night like I took a bath and I was reading fashion magazines
and like preparing for teenage hood because I was 13 now. And like everything was gonna change.
I was gonna become popular and beautiful.
It was like a movie.
Like I thought this is what happens.
Like this is my makeover moment.
And I had the best night of my life.
I go and I like tuck into bed
in my very own hotel cabin room and I'm sleeping soundly.
And all of a sudden I'm like woken up
and there's this banging on my door
and my mom is screaming like, open, open, open. And I open the door and my mom is there and she's frantic. It's
not funny. I guess now it's been so long and my dad is totally fine. My father is diabetic.
He's like diabetic his whole life. So my mom's banging on the door. She gets me to open
it. She's like, you need to run up to the main house. There's no telephones. Like run
up to the main house and scream for help. We need an ambulance.
Your dad is sick.
And I'm like, what?
And I'm in a nightgown and I don't even know.
And it's so dark.
And I'm like running up to where I think this big building is.
And I like open the door and I go in
and I just start screaming like help, help, help, help, help.
And like no one's coming and no one is.
And I'm like, I don't know what to do.
And I don't know how to do this.
I don't know how to call an ambulance
in the middle of the woods in Wisconsin
and I'm screaming for help.
And then my mom runs in like a few minutes later
and she just runs like right behind the desk,
the front desk where no one is,
and she grabs the telephone and dials 911
and gets the ambulance.
And of course now I'm just like, oh my god, duh.
Like I'm so stupid. Like I'm so stupid. I am not ready for adulthood. I didn't even
think to like find a phone to call 911. Like I am an actual idiot. And so then my mom's
like, wait here. And when the ambulance comes, show them where to go. I'm going back to
your dad. I should also mention my mom's a nurse.
So there's like a tiny bit more security in the situation
knowing that she's like a trained.
And it makes sense why she would stay with him
and send you to do that.
She's like a trained medical professional.
So she's with my two.
She's like, I can do medicine, you do phone.
Yeah, but I.
And yet it turned out you can't do phone.
Can't do phone.
Can't do phone.
Don't have a life threatening emergency around me.
Anyway, the ambulance comes.
I'm running, the ambulance is like following me
as I'm running down the trail to lead them to my dad.
They pack him up in the ambulance.
They throw my mom and me
in the passenger seat of the ambulance.
I'm sitting on her lap.
We're racing through the sort of woods in Wisconsin,
and like out of nowhere, of course,
comes a deer in the middle of the road,
and the headlights are shining on the deer,
and like we slam on the brakes, and like,
I mean, I'm like hearing like a, like a,
ugh, like in the back of the ambulance.
Like, have they not strapped him down?
We don't hit the deer, thank God.
We get to the hospital, they rush him in.
I don't know what they do for him back there,
but I hear him and he is like, he's like coming to.
And anyway, this is like the messy part.
And anyway, like I'm just like, now I'm sitting by myself
in the waiting room of the ER in this hospital in Wisconsin.
And I'm like shaking and I can't believe,
I'm like, I almost killed my dad.
I couldn't even dial 911.
And it turns out, obviously my dad is totally fine.
And he just got really a low blood sugar,
and that happens to diabetics all the time,
but it was so traumatic, obviously.
I mean, still traumatized by this,
and it was the worst family vacation. I mean, I know you by this, and it was like the worst family vacation.
I mean, I know you've had some really crazy stories.
In my world, that was like...
I mean, that's terrible.
Yeah. You don't have to feel bad about saying that one's bad.
That's bad.
It was so terrible, and it was like also because I thought,
like, we're pretty fancy if we're not even going to Michigan.
Like, we're going to Minnesota this year,
and I have my own room in one of our stops.
So like things are really looking up for me.
Like I think actually like this might be
the turning point in my life.
And it turns out that it was not.
Was it the end of the trip?
Did you guys, was it like, let's all head home after that?
Did you make it to Minnesota?
No, I think we still went,
we still made it to the cabin on the Minnesota lake
and I learned to water ski.
And my dad was, we stayed in Wisconsin for a few extra days.
I remember him being in the hospital for like a day or two
and visiting him there.
And then he was kind of okay.
I mean, that's the thing usually,
at least it was with my dad,
he would sometimes have low blood sugar,
like never that level of it,
but usually like you get your shit together pretty quickly
and then you're like, okay, need to take care of that.
But anyway.
What was being an only child on a lake?
Were you, would you find other kids your age
to hang out with?
I was always hanging around with like
some older second cousin.
Like it was always not around with like some older second cousin.
Like it was always not really that much.
And I never did camp.
I did do camp one year, but I wasn't like a go to the same camp every summer kind of
kid, which I like a lot of kids do now, which I think is really cool.
I have some friends that like they go to camp reunions like more than their high school reunions,
you know, like, yeah, like camp is pretty cool.
I didn't do that.
And it was usually,
one thing about trips with my family as an only child
is I was usually allowed to bring a friend,
but then they would say,
but you have to bring like one of your cousins.
And I'm like, well, it's not really like
bringing a friend now, is it?
But it would usually be an older cousin
because then like a cousin my age,
which would have been my cousin Mandy,
who was my best friend when I was little,
and we're still really close.
Like she was like too young to leave home.
So then I would have to bring like one of my older cousins
that I was less close to so I could have a playmate,
which at the time I totally didn't understand,
but now I get it because my parents need a vacation too.
And I was probably like, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys,
guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
So they were like, let's bring cousin Tracy.
Yeah.
So what would, if you were up North, upper peninsula,
on a lake there for a week, and if you have cousin Tracy,
like what would you, what kind of trouble
would you guys go get into?
Would you go into town?
Would you go out on the lake on a little rowboat?
Like what's the move?
There wasn't rowboats.
My dad had a boat, which was always a source
of potential divorce between my parents
because the boat never really worked,
but they would like drive it all the way up to this place
and get it in the lake and then it wouldn't start.
And then my dad would be mad
and then he would be mean to my mom and me
because he was just mad at the boat.
And then it was like, the boat was a whole thing.
Don't get a boat, just like, no one get a boat.
Did the boat have a name?
I don't remember.
It was in the garage for so long.
And it was like, it was always in the garage.
And like being in the Midwest,
like you kind of want your cars in the garage,
but the boat was in the garage.
And it had to be like parked at an angle because of the trailer it was
on.
It didn't like, anyway, so the boat, so it was usually the trouble we would get in.
Like we would beg to go into town, like mostly just like swimming around.
I mean, I was so boring.
Like I wasn't really a troublemaker.
My cousins kind of were a little bit more troublemakery,
but again, like we would be in these like remote places.
So it wasn't like we could, like,
we're gonna walk into town.
Like, that wasn't really an option.
Yeah.
So I don't, I remember once I ate a whole jar of olives
and I was so thirsty for so many days, that felt crazy. That does feel like, I don't know,
like one of those exposes you see on local news
where they're like, they call it oliving.
Kids are eating entire jars
and then they're thirsty for days.
It's like pretty much, that was a crazy one.
I remember that pretty vividly.
I know, look, we're not kids anymore,
but you should start a TikTok challenge called Olliving.
Olliving.
And just, yeah.
And then see how many can you get?
Probably someone will die and then I'll get sued.
There was a lady who died because she drank too much water
trying to win like a Nintendo 60 something
on a radio station.
Yeah, yeah. Seems like a weird game to like, what was the fun part of drinking that much water? I don't know. I don't know. I hate water. I have to force it down my gullet every day. But like,
I remember- You've always hated water?
Mm-hmm.
Interesting. We have a friend, our friend Saskia hates water too. She says it's so boring.
So boring.
Yeah. And like sparkling water she'll do.
Now you're drinking water.
Oh wow.
I know.
Ugh.
I know I.
What are you drinking throughout the day then?
Water, but hatefully.
Just unhappily.
I'm unhappily drinking water.
I will put things in my like nourishment hole
that I know I need in there, but like,
I'm not happy about it.
Yeah, but if like, if you had your druthers
other than water, what would your drink of choice be?
Like burning hot coffee all the time probably.
I like coffee and I like iced tea.
I mean, it's not like I'm like, I wish I could just have Coke.
Well, I do love Diet Coke, I'm not going to lie.
Like Diet Coke from a fountain with a lemon wedge.
If I was invincible, that would be great.
If you go to a movie, are you getting a Diet Coke?
Are you getting a fountain?
Yeah, I like a Diet Coke, but I also will probably get water.
Well, it's really, it's nice that you've conceded to the power of water.
Like, the Diet Coke is a real treat, and I do find when I'm working, I will have more Diet Coke on set.
So then when I'm not working, I'm like, all right, just like simmer down with all the garbage.
Do you in general feel like you eat worse on set?
Uh-huh. Who doesn't?
Yeah, I guess it's crazy.
Just the very fact that it's like,
hey, we're gonna put some gummy bears out.
Oh, don't with the gummy bears. It's my kryptonite.
But like also, I love candy in general,
and I find being on set, you just, you get so tired, and so, like, you're so tired, you just wanna, like, eat food, right?
Like, it's like, it's not that I'm hungry,
it's that I'm tired, but then I wanna eat candy,
and then I'm like, oh god, I'm eating too much candy,
this is a problem, I'm eating way too much candy,
but then, like, people on set will see how much I like candy,
and then they'll start, like, hiding candy in my props,
and I'll, like, go and go and like walk up to my mark
and there'll be like a pack of Skittles on my mark
and I'm like, oh.
And so then, and it's like so sweet
and it comes from a place of love
but then I'm like just eating candy all day long at work.
I did this mini series called The Thing About Pam
and all the whole camera department was hiding Skittles
everywhere on set for me.
And I felt like a child actor, but I didn't care.
I loved it. I loved it.
I loved those people.
I like it so funny as an adult to like candy so much
that other adults will, like, hide it to surprise you.
Yes.
I mean, I am in my 40s.
Like, and I would be delighted every time I would open,
like, my legal binder, because I was playing a lawyer,
like, in the courtroom scene, and I'd be delighted every time I would open like my legal binder because I was playing a lawyer like in the courtroom scene and I'd be like, well, it says here, oh!
Thank you.
Or go to like sit in my chair and be like, oh, you guys!
Swedish fish!
I love a Swedish fish!
You know what they call Swedish fish in Sweden?
Swedish fish?
Fish.
It's true, it's true.
You're a stepchild, how old are your stepkids?
They keep getting older.
And today they're 24 and 28.
Oh my God.
And how old were they when you got married?
When we got married, when I met them they were nine and 12.
So you must have taken trips with them over the years.
Yes, in fact, interestingly enough, when I met them,
neither of them had ever been out of the state of California
or on an airplane.
And I was like, I couldn't believe it.
And I just was like, we have to fix this right now.
Like, where can we go on an airplane
that we can do in a weekend?
And I was like, Vegas, obviously.
So I took the kids to Vegas.
That was our first family trip, the four of us.
And it's actually kind of a fun,
if you do like the kid version of Vegas,
it's like super fun.
Like the casinos are crazy,
like walking on the strip and seeing all that craziness
is actually like very interesting and weird.
And like, and then we went and saw a bunch
of Cirque du Soleil shows, we ate great food,
we ate like, you know, giant ice cream sundaes
and we had like this big hotel room and it was really fun.
Like it was actually perfect and they got to check
both boxes, they got into the state of Nevada
and they got to go on an airplane, and it was super, super fun.
I think every kid's dream for, like, the new mom is like,
let's go to Vegas, like, right out of the gate.
Vegas!
Yeah, we like her. We like her, yeah.
You like show up, you're like, they've never been to Vegas?
Nine and 12?
Come on. You're serious right now?
You've never been to Vegas?
I'm like, well, obviously we're going to Las Vegas.
Oh, you shamed them.
You were like, uh, okay.
I think we better go to Vegas
or else we're gonna have nothing to talk about.
I know.
Why don't we not talk until we've been to Vegas
and then we'll start our relationship?
It did seem random, but it was great.
That's great.
It is, Judy, it's the best to see you all the time.
Always.
Thank you.
Before we let you go,
you do have to answer Josh's questions.
Yes, I'm ready.
Some quick questions here.
You can only pick one of these.
Is your ideal vacation relaxing,
adventurous, or educational?
Today relaxing.
Okay, we'll take today.
What is your favorite means of transportation?
Train, plane, automobile, boat, bike?
Automobile.
Automobile.
If you could take a vacation with any family,
alive or dead, real or fictional,
other than your own family,
what family would you like to take a family vacation with?
Oh my God, the only thing I can think of right now
is like a national lampoon situation,
like the Chevy Chase Beverly D'Angelo,
but I don't feel like that's my final answer.
Any family,
I can't answer it.
Pass. Okay, pass.
All right, for now it's the Griswolds, but-
Griswolds, that's the word I was looking for.
Yeah.
If you had to be stranded on a desert island
with one member of your family, who would it be?
Can it be my husband?
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Great.
And I think you said you're from Lavonia.
Am I pronouncing that right?
Would you recommend Lavonia as a vacation destination?
Oh man, can't answer that after the election.
With peace and love, no.
Yeah, that's okay.
Our hometown is a no for us.
It's a no, and we love it.
But you're, isn't it Pittsburgh?
No, that's my dad.
Bedford, New Hampshire.
Pittsburgh, absolutely go to Pittsburgh.
I would choose Pittsburgh, and like, I love Pittsburgh.
Yeah.
Have you, where you've shot stuff there?
Twice, two movies, loved it.
Loved it, loved it, loved it.
Yeah.
It's the best.
Yeah. And Seth the best. Yeah.
And Seth has our final questions.
OK.
Judy, have you been to the Grand Canyon?
Yes.
And was it worth it?
Not with the person I went with.
Oh, interesting.
They were so, they could not, they ruined the canyon.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Can I venture a guess that this was a gentleman?
You would be right.
And I guess that's when you know it's the wrong cat,
when he ruins the canyon.
If you're with someone that their energy,
their negative energy overshadows the Grand Canyon,
here's a hot take.
Don't stay in a relationship with them for two years.
If that's the first thing you do,
and that is like, if that is more of the memory
than the Grand Canyon, like how about don't buy a house
with them, how about don't be in a relationship with them?
I think that's a great, I think an early Canyon date
is a great idea. Early Canyon trip.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's like my diner.
If you have any sense that there might have a negative energy,
get them to the Canyon.
Yeah, yeah.
Great.
It's the great, like a truth, what's the,
like a truth-saver or?
Yeah, it's the great revealer.
The reveal?
It's the grand revealer.
They say it's, you know, a lot of people say
it's the Grand Canyon, but it's also the grand revealer. Yeah say it's, you know, a lot of people say it's the Grand Canyon, but it's also the grand
revealer.
Yeah, it's true.
What are you made of?
Let's go to the canyon and then we'll talk about this.
Well, it was just wonderful seeing you.
Thank you so much, Judy.
It was so good to see you guys.
Also, you can catch, you guys, you can catch Judy and the best Christmas pageant ever coming
out this November 8th.
Very exciting. Getting everyone into the holiday spirit.
I imagine.
I can't see it because it's not happening.
And remember, if you got a weird dog,
Judy will drive to your house.
If you have a weird dog, Judy is available.
We love you.
I love you, Matt.
Thank you so much, Judy.
Thanks for having me.
Bye. Bye.
Bye.
A girl
With her own hotel room
It was more of a woodsy cabin affair
Was it too expensive? She didn't care
The birthday girl.
That's right, Judy Greer was turning 13, flipping through
fashion magazines.
It was her world, but then it all came unfurled.
Her mother said, Earl, your father is unwell.
He's, he's feeling bad.
Run, run and go get some help
I'll
I'll stay with your dad
So Judy ran up to the main house
Help, help, help was all she could shout
But no one came
How in the world was nobody home
Her mom ran and called 911.
Judy felt such shame. Was something wrong with her brain?
Her dad was okay. His blood sugar was low. And off to Minnesota they'd go Where she learned to water-ski Learn to waterskip