Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - KATHRYN HAHN Vacationed At An Abandoned Ski Lodge

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

This week, Kathryn Hahn joins Seth and Josh on the podcast! She shares stories about her dad taking the family to an abandoned ski lodge in the middle of summer, their visit to Cedar Point amusement park, and whether she plays good cop or bad cop with her kids. Kathryn also reflects on the experience of delivering the commencement address at her (and Seth's) alma mater, Northwestern University, plus much more! DraftkingsScore big with DraftKings Sportsbook - the number ONE place to bet touchdowns. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code FAMILYTRIPS. That’s code FAMILYTRIPS for new customers to get $250 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks AND get one month of NFL+ Premium! Only on DraftKings True NutritionTake the guesswork out of nutrition with @True Nutrition and get 15% off with codeTrips at truenutrition.com/trips #truenutritionpod LinkedInStart converting your B2B audience into high quality leads today. We’ll even give you a $100 credit on your next campaign. Go to LinkedIn.com/familytrips to claim your credit. Terms and Conditions apply.

Hi Pashi. Hi Sufi. How are you? I'm good, I'm so excited. You're very excited. And all of our listeners should be excited too because by the time you listen to this episode, Josh and I will have been to the Grand Canyon.

Yep. Do you want to explain why we're going to the Grand Canyon? Yeah. Well, part of it is because you're such a curmudgeon about the Grand Canyon. I think that's without that. Yeah. It's a payoff to a very funny joke. Yeah.

Every year we're in a fantasy football league. You, me, a bunch of your college friends who are now my friends and a couple others who have been brought into the fold over the years. So every year we go have a fantasy football draft and it's more about having a weekend with buddies and whoever wins the league hosts the draft, which is kind of a burn because when you win, you have more work than everyone else in the league hosts the draft, which is kind of a burn because when you win,

you have more work than everyone else in the league. You have to plan a draft that delights and entertains your 11 closest friends and it has to top a previous draft. And people have been crushing it for years. So our friend, Derek Van der Voort, won a couple years ago, lives in Wilmette, Illinois, hosted us there. Great draft, it's close to Northwestern. And so, you know, we got to do some Northwestern stuff there.

He didn't want to have us back again. And he's a listener of the podcast. And so he was listening, he was like, hey, I think I wanna try to get a place near the Grand Canyon so we can get Seth to the Grand Canyon. So he had reached out to me to figure out, is this a bad idea, is this a good idea?

And so we have found this incredible Airbnb up in Flagstaff. And there we're gonna- With an assist from? With Airbnb. Well, also our friend from the Canyon. We had a Canyon connection. Yeah, Lauren Cisneros has- Guest to the pod.

Yeah, I've been reaching out to her. So I've been in touch with the Canyon. And yeah, so we've got this great place and we're for an afternoon and actually for our actual fantasy football draft, we will be on the ridge, on the rim of the Grand Canyon at this great spot that was recommended by Lauren and where you need a permit.

And I think one of the strange things is gonna be for a huge chunk of our time at the Grand Canyon, we will be drafting fantasy football teams, which is notoriously the worst part of our weekend. Because for the rest of it, it's just fun. And then it just feels so- It slows down to such a drag. Also no internet service out there.

So a bunch of guys are gonna be carrying around just loose leaf paper with players on it. It's gonna be, I think it might be exactly what our league needs to take the edge off. Yeah. The other great thing is there's a sort of reveal, a gender reveal, if you will, of the draft that tells you where you're gonna go.

And the email this year was just a picture of the Grand Canyon. And I think it said, let's find out together, is it worth it? Yeah. And I could not, I had to read it three times before I realized that you and DV had actually planned a draft at the Grand Canyon.

Yeah. So I will finish the show. I think I'm the last man in because I have a show on Thursday. I will finish the show Thursday. I will go to the airport. I will go to the airport. I will fly to Phoenix. I will drive two hours to Flagstaff.

I will meet you guys at midnight on Thursday. You'll already be two days into the weekend at that point? Yeah. I feel like this weekend started as a Friday to Sunday and then got bumped Thursday to Sunday. And then, I don't know, for the last chunk of years, there are guys that are like, why are we not going on Wednesday?

And so, yeah, there's an early, I'm on a 6.45 a.m. flight on Wednesday morning to get out there and spend a day with the early arrivers. Now one, I'm not that upset because you guys are golfing and that's the part of the weekend that I liked the least. So it's very good for me. I missed that part. It's also gonna be 109 degrees where we're golfing.

The other thing that's funny to me is based on college, I think if you had to bet which person here will not have a job, everybody would have bet me. And it's very funny to me that all these years later that I have the job that means I have to show up latest. I should know everybody has jobs. It's just, I think they have a lot of flexibility. And, you know, they also had kids younger than I did.

So a lot of their kids don't need them around. Yeah, we also, we looked at this weekend as a possible wedding weekend, but I told Mackenzie, I was like, we can get married over this weekend, and like, I could miss the draft, but then I will never see you for our anniversary. Right.

And there are two guys in our group who miss their anniversaries every year. And their wives seem cool with it. They seem cool with it. You're also doing what I did, which is basically I got married the week before the fantasy football draft. And I said to Alexi, I will not have a bachelor party,

but the week after our wedding, I'm gonna go to the draft. You are not having a bachelor party and this is basically serving as that. Yeah, and one of the guys reached out and was like, hey, do you wanna come in like Tuesday and we'll do like a bachelor party thing for you? I was like, we don't need to guild the lily here. That's, it already is enough.

So yeah, I'm so excited. And I hope everyone's excited. We are gonna bring recording gear and Josh is going to capture my real time reaction to seeing the Grand Canyon for the first time. Yeah. So yeah, looking forward to that. It's really, really funny that this is how I'm gonna go.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know if there's another way to get you there. That's true. That wasn't a kidnapping situation. Yeah. It's a nice tie in to Northwestern because our guest today is Catherine Hahn,

who was also a Northwestern alum. But it's also a segue to some sadder news as well. A friend of ours, Eric Gilliland, who was a Northwestern alum, passed away this week after a long illness. And he was a fantastic person. He was a comedy writer. He wrote and ran Roseanne for years.

He did a lot of other things. You saw him at the Miao reunion? Yeah, he was one of the sort of coordinators, her chair people of this reunion for our college improv troupe. And he was like easily the most mentioned person in this auditorium over the course of a weekend. People, he was the definition of beloved

and he was so, I wanna say like he was a gentle giant but he wasn't a big guy, but he was so gentle and nice but he was a giant in terms of his influence and how many people sort of called him out as the sort of the guy who made their experience in Meow, in this improv troupe and just how sharp-witted he was on the last night there, he was, you know, there were six of us who were the last people to leave this bar

and he was one of them and we walked back to the hotel together. And yeah, I just heard the news yesterday and I was devastated, but what a sweet, nice, beloved man. Meow, our improv troupe. When I was a senior, we went out to LA to do some shows. There's a big community of Northwestern people out in LA and we all thought, oh, we'll go out and basically all get hired for TV shows and stuff

based on doing an improv show at a Northwestern alumni event. And obviously that didn't happen, but Eric Gilliland, who was, I think at Roseanne at the time. He was a real, you know, big deal. He took us all out to dinner. And he basically just offered his experience and told us we could ask him anything we wanted.

And the thing I remember is he just seemed so delighted by the whole thing. He seemed delighted to be able to take a bunch of college kids out to dinner and pick up the tab and talk to them about comedy and talk to them about the business and give them words of encouragement. And then he continued to be the exact same kind of person, the entirety of our relationship.

He was just a really special guy and we were not alone. Social media, so many people that I also love and respect, he obviously had that kind of effect on them as well. And he was a close friend of Richard Kind. And I think we all know that if you're a close friend of Richard Kind, so that's a nice thing you can say about a person. Yeah.

Yeah, I've read some things that people have written online and because he came out of the comedy world, there's a lot of just great, great stories out there about Eric Gilliland. So yeah, maybe take a trip and Google and read some of those things, but- Rest in peace, Eric. The world will miss him, yeah, absolutely.

So thank you for letting us share that. And now let's talk to Catherine. Family trips with the Myers Brothers. Family trips with the Myers Brothers. Here we go. Oh my gosh. Yes, look at this. Woo! Go cats.

Go cats. Go cats. You know what? I'm going to just get right, I'm going to open with cats. Okay. Catherine, because there was one year where all four of us were at Northwestern at the same time. Yes.

Yes. One year. You're the first guest where we all shared a commissary. That's what they call it. At school, did all shared a commissary. That's what they call it. At school, did they call it commissaries? No, they called it commissaries. Where are commissaries?

They call it commissaries. It was a military school. That'd be amazing. Yeah, we went to military school. The commissary. That's where all the businessmen meet. You gave the commencement. I did, this year.

And? Well, you left some big shoes to try to fill. I started watching and I had to stop because I was like, what is also it was as soon as I said yes, I was like, why did I do that? But then it was the sweetest day. I don't know if you. I loved it so much. So much.

I loved it. I was like, that's one of the That's one of my core memory now, is being there with Ethan after all these years and seeing pals. Also this class was very special because they had missed their last year of high school and then half of their first year of college. So it just felt very special. Yeah, that's great. They're all, they're all lovely. Go cats. Did you put, I mean, I felt like, again, same thing. The minute I said yes, I regretted it because I did not, I never wanted to

embarrass myself less than I did there. I know. And then I was like, what's the tone? I couldn't figure it out. I was like, what do I say? I would imagine you and Ethan, it's helpful that you met your husband in Northwestern. So I would imagine he was helpful as a sounding board. That was an in. And also, as my friend Chase said,

she was like, why don't you just say, like hold a placard that just says, see David Foster Wallace's This Is Water, which I don't know if you've ever heard, but that's his, I mean, cause like he said it all. And then I could just tap dance. If there's everyone not to watch before you give one. Oh yeah, I was like,

I was like, maybe I just do the whole thing word for word. Are you emotional when you go back to Northwestern? Does it do anything to you in that way? This time it did, just because it was so, it felt like such, it was such an honor. And to even be, I don't know if you had that night before where you are with all the professors and the chairs and the da-da-da-da.

And it was like, it just felt so, I just felt a renewed gratitude that I was actually able to have a liberal arts education in a school like that. It just felt, I just felt like a rush of gratitude. Do you remember who spoke at yours when you graduated? I didn't see mine. Okay. It was-

Nor did I. Yeah, I got a job. It was too hot. Oh my God, you did? So you couldn't do it? Yeah. What happened? I got hired by Boom Chicago,

so I had to leave eight days before my graduation. And I missed Tony Kushner at the School of Speech graduation and Ruth Bader Ginsburg at the main graduation. Yeah. Cause I had to look it up. He was, he's a former president. Henry Beechin, I think or something like that. But he was a former president of Northwestern.

Of Northwestern, yeah. Cause that's not a president of the United States. There's no Henry V. Josh is kind of the podcast's presidential historian. He's the Doris Kearns Goodwin of the two of us. No, it's always good to have a historian around, just to fact check. I mean, I'll just tell you real quick, just throw out names and Josh will tell you if they were a US president or not.

It's crazy. It is so crazy. Like, I haven't been around somebody that knows our history like this. Yeah. Such a long time. Yeah, it's a flex. Carrot top. Not a president. Harvey Maddox. Yes. Not a president. OK. How about

how about Dr. Phil? He's got a lot of clout. Okay, okay. John Adams. President. Oh, not that one. I was doing a different John Adams. There's a lot of John Adams, Josh.

You should know better. You guys, I'll say it, and I know this is maybe hurting our chances of having him on the pod, but my graduation speaker was Robert Redford. Oh. And he was fine. OK. Yeah. Schwimmer was your school of speech. And he was great, was exceptionally good.

Oh, I bet. And it was young. It was young Schwimmer early, maybe year two or three of Friends. And he you could feel how much he cared. And it was a performance of a lifetime. This is without I'm not being sarcastic at all. I know I bet. David knows this because the first time I met David,

I told him how much it meant to me and he was genuinely touched because he put so much into it. Cause he put so much into it. I feel like this was like, I had such respect for writers because I was like, this is torture. Like I would have something and then I would fudge with it and then I'd be gone. And then I had like I had never had this experience.

I had like such like I can't do it. And then I was like, get back to it was such a process. I was like, torture, tortured writer. But I I bet I want to see yours after this, because I want to, because you're, I know that you left some huge shoes, as I said before, but I got to watch yours again. I watched them all. I had the same thing when I was doing mine, you know,

and again, I think it speaks to the kind of shoes that walk through the halls of Northwestern. Colbert had recently done it. Julie Louis-Dreyfus had recently done it. So there's, you know, look, if you're gonna do it, look out for the shoes. Look out for the shoes. You're gonna look out for the shoes

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We'll even give you a hundred dollar credit in your next campaign. Go to linkedin.com slash family trips to claim your credit. That's linkedin.com slash family trips. Terms and conditions apply. LinkedIn, the place to be to be So we're where before you uh Left for Northwestern. Where were you? Where was high school for you? High school was in

Cleveland Heights, Ohio, which is where I grew up I mean we were like in outside of Chicago and then this grew up. I mean, we were like in outside of Chicago and then this West and then a place in Minnesota until we were until I was four until we were for all of my multiple personalities. And then and then we moved to Cleveland Heights and we had that. So I was there and I went to Catholic school all the way up through high school. And how was that experience? I was with a lot of nuns. I mean, I liked a single sex education in high school. I really loved not having to deal with clothes or that kind of like FOMO stuff.

I'm not, why is it not looking cool on me? It was like good. Although my mom did think that I was going to grow I think like seven sizes in the four years of high school. So my first day, like everyone came up to me and just went, pull my skirt down, because it was so big. And basically, it was all the girls. And then I had saddle shoes that looked like full on,

like both of the clout shoes. So this is going to a new school, this Catholic school that you went to? Yeah, but it was like the same. It kind of went from co-ed elementary to like single sex high school. So you knew those girls, but it was like the same. It just was, it kind of went from co-ed elementary to like single sex high school. So you knew those girls. And it was the same, yeah.

It wasn't like, yeah, okay. We just kind of filtered. But it is really the amount of effort that has to go into being poorly dressed at a Catholic school. With a uniform. It's an achievement. Any uniformed school, it's a pretty, it's tough,

but I was, I definitely, there was a, yeah, I definitely, I mean, I loved, the nuns were so awesome. There were some really radical nuns that I was like, oh, incredible educators. But then there were some nuns that were just so, you know, you could just screw with them. And it was so fun. They've just been there for so long

and they were just so old. And like, you know, we would whip like maxi pads into like the little, there was some like gorgeous sculpture of Mary, but in this pond. And we would just like, it was just, I mean, we were so silly. And there were always, she was always like,

ladies, ladies, there was a particular. Did she kind of low end love it? Do you think that most of the non- Yes. Yes, great. A hundred percent. She was also our directoress, directoress. That's how she called herself.

And loved it. Just like wanted to hang out, I think. Was just so excited by anyone that was like, not so serious, don't have a good time. They're not, look, they're not treated well in pop culture, our nation's nuns, and so we're glad that you're putting a positive spin on them as educators. If I can do that, that's the one thing I'm behind.

So was it a school that you, was it a day school or did you live there? Oh no, no, yeah, it was a day school. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, did you guys go to boarding school? No, no. Oh, I was like, wow, wait. Okay, yeah, no.

I couldn't, would you, I mean, do your kids, I'm assuming don't go to boarding school? No, I'm too greedy. How broke, that's what I was going to say. How broken a heart would you have? Yeah, and also, like, why? Like, that's around the corner. Like, why would you...

I don't understand. Some kids love it, I guess. Some kids really love it. Weirdly, some of my New York friends, their kids basically come to them and say, I've made a decision. I want to, like, I wanna like, go to school somewhere other than this city.

And I love this appearance, like, okay. Yeah. I would be like, sorry. I think it runs in the family too. Like, if you went to boarding school, your children would be more likely to go to boarding school. Just like you appreciated sort of the single sex education for a while, same with my fiance. and like, I think that you like,

yeah, thank you. I think you, yeah, you sort of like follow that path. I hear you. And it's definitely, I think like there is definitely like a, I always saw it growing up in Cleveland as boarding schools being like so was being like, so fancy. Like so something other. Yeah, Seth and I both went to a summer school

at St. Paul's Academy in New Hampshire. They had like a summer program where they would take 300 public school kids from the state and you'd go for four or six weeks. And it was so fancy. And so idyllic. for four or six weeks and it was so fancy. Yeah, yeah. And so idyllic and yeah. It was so fancy that when we got to Northwestern,

it was a little bit shittier. You know? Yeah. One of the finest universities in the land and it was like, oh, not St. Paul's nice. It did not have a commissary. It did not, no, it did not. No, it did not.

Where did you, and so did you have siblings? What was your situation? I do have siblings. I have two younger brothers. I'm the oldest and only and only girl, okay, yeah, um Almost a girl not quite a woman So how much younger? My I have a brother that's two years younger and then a brother that's seven years. Her okay My baby brother is out here, which is pretty incredible he is newly married and has a

Baby, and it's just so awesome to have family out here because they had we had no one like when our kids were born It was just the weirdest. Yeah, not to have La Familia, but then and then my other brother, the one who's right below me is in Ohio. And before he was married and had a kid of his own, I would imagine a sibling who's seven years younger is maybe crushing the uncle game. Was he an excellent uncle?

Oh, crushed the, I mean, my kids obsessed. Like love him so much. He and my husband, like Ethan, as you know, they have like a whole, like send each other, like the nastiest stuff. Like every time I look at it, I'm like, oh my God, you guys, like, but they, it just makes me so happy.

Yeah, and he crushed the uncle. And now he's crushing the father game. Like it's really cute, really sweet. I need you to clarify what the nastiest stuff is that they're sending back and forth. Cause it's, I don't know. Like, is it pornography? Yeah, it's like, he's so good at being an uncle.

He did get arrested. What do you mean the nastiest stuff? No, you know, like gross, hilarious memes or whatever. He did get arrested. What do you mean the nastiest? You know like gross, hilarious memes or whatever. I have no social media. I don't know. Memes. Okay memes. Memes is better than dirty porn.

I think the modern uncle has to be good at memes. I think that kind of goes to that side. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah. And so you're the only girl, and was there, did you have a closeness with the, with the one that was only two years younger? We did until like, it was because we were so close in age,

I think that like, we just really wanted to have our own experiences. So like, high school was not a great like, time for us. We've gotten like, much, much closer. My baby brother, we always were like, I just felt like, yeah, because he was so much smaller, I felt a very maternal vibe. Like I just wanted to like, just hang out with him and care. Like I just was like, loved him both to death, but my baby brother, I had a... Yeah. I felt responsible.

That was pretty cool. What were Han family vacations growing up? Oh. Oh, boy. I was so excited to share these. Okay. Here's an example. We never took a plane anywhere. That was a thing.

It was always road trips, which was partially financial and partially my dad just being like, this is how you do it. This is a family vacation. So I remember one time we went to, in the middle of the summer, dead of the summer, we went to- Now, just real quick, your dad is a Bill, is that correct? Is Bill, yeah. Yeah. And I wanna say, I feel like Bills are very famous

for like, this is how you do it. Like, it just, our nation's Bills. Our nation's Bills, that's true. They know how to do it. Yeah, they know how to do it. There is, except when you pour just straight dreino in a tub, leave it for three days, and then the first time someone takes a bath,

the ceiling falls down. No. And then he would say, he passed away reasonably, but he would say things like, why does this always happen to me? And we'd have to be like, ah. But he, so anyway, he was very frugal. I wonder if it was at multiple times that tubs fell through?

But there was a lot of these things. Like we had an old school, like one of those like thumping like huge heaters in the basement that was like duct taped around it. Like it was like duct taped together and like everything around it was flammable. Like that's where he kept like the paint thinner. That's where he kept like, we'd always be like,

we should move that away from this. Like you open that little door and it'd be like flames. You know, it was so old. And we just like that. My mom finally was like, Bill, hon, we got to move these away. But he was also very, I I said, like very frugal. So our trips would be like, dead of summer, drive to middle of Pennsylvania, go to a ski lodge in the middle of summer.

It was called there's a place called Blue Knob, which, which of course became Blue Knob's and we couldn't stop laughing about it. And we spent like a full two weeks in an abandoned ski lodge in the middle of summer. And he thought it was hilarious. Like he took pictures of all of us on the like moored ski lift, just being like, hurry up, it's so hot.

Like it was those kinds of things all the time. Was the idea to go like hiking and was there like a lake around? No, no, no. No, it was like in the mountains. Well, there are lakes and mountains. There are, but not around Blue Knob. Okay, fair enough, you would know, yeah.

And there was a lot of like, is this fun? Is this hilarious and kitschy? And we'd be like, as we were just eating, like the shit that you would get out of the, like we would just like put in quarters and be like, Snickers bars! So Bill in general, Bill's vibe was like, he just wanted to like, just like drill it

through his kid's head that they were having a good time. Yes, and like try to convince everybody, but also he was very stressed out. Like he had this enormous Cadillac, this huge black Caddy that like from 91 that you could land a plane on the front of. We drove to DC and I remember he was in such, he was so mad because of all the roundabouts

and he kept being like, can't do it. I just can't do it. Cause he just kept missing him. We were just like, I mean, there it is. And then we would just go past. If you get so angry at the signage where people have been able to deal for a long time, we went to the Lincoln Memorial and the only spot available was a handicap space and he pulled right in and my mom was of course like, no.

And he was like, we're going to be here 20 minutes. It's 20 minutes. We were like, ah, and then we got out of the car and started walking towards the Memorial and then all of a sudden it was like cop car, cop car. And my dad turned around without missing a beat, started limping back to the car. Oh, Bill. And he got away with crap. Like that was the best thing about it is that he really got away.

Like my little brother had to wear a sling and suck his thumb to try to get in for free into the Notre Dame games. My dad went to Notre Dame. Wait. And my brother was like, no. A sling and sucking your thumb gets you in? I'm not trying to be like, from all angles, like he's young and this would really mean a lot. It's a real Tiny Tim situation.

It is. This kid's not, this kid's life is bad. He's a real tiny Tim situation. It is. This kid's not, this kid's life is bad. He's younger than he looks, broken arm. But sure, tell him he can't come here. His dad's got a weird limp. You try. Yeah, he always would carry a, there's a place in Ohio called Cedar Point.

Oh yeah, it's familiar. Yeah, it's a- Have you been there? No, but it's the amusement park, yeah? Best roller coasters hands down. Yeah, I've heard that. They're incredible. But we would, every time we went there, he would carry a briefcase with all of his discharge papers

from the Navy to try to get like the discount and nobody ever checked the briefcase. And that like they just let him in with a discount. And we had to schlep around this very heavy attache. Is that how you say it? Attache. Was it a dishonorable discharge? Yeah.

Yeah. He showed it to him and they're like, oh, not for one of these, man. I wanna make a dishonorable discharge joke right now. But I can't. I think... Your kid's uncle could. Am I having a dishonorable...

He just sent, good news, your brother just sent your kids a meme with his dishonorable discharge on it. We can't describe the picture. No, but let's say it involves feces. I feel like your little brother should have been let in for free, not because he had a broken arm, but because his dad brought a briefcase to an amusement park. He my dad also couldn't wait to get in a little rascal.

Like he just was like, that's going to be the dream. Like, you know how you'd get those like those cart, you know, like the little. Oh, you mean like, yeah, like the little's gonna be the dream. You know how you'd get those like, those cart, you know, the little motorized things. Yeah, like the rascals, the scooter, yeah. Yeah, but like a seat. It's not like a, you know. And he was so excited the first time he could drive around to the point in a little rascal,

someplace to put his attache, autoshay. That's so, the idea of aspiring to driving little rascal, some place to put his attache, attache. That's so, the idea of aspiring to driving a rascal is really funny. Oh, he couldn't wait, he loved it. He just thought it was hilarious. Would he still go on the rides? Ah, very few. Okay, because I was wondering how you managed to be

in a line for a ride in a rascal scooter, if you just sort of keep like pulling forward and pulling forward. He would stay back nursing the coffee from home or from the beginning of the day. That was like totally, you know, just disgusting. And he would try to just make conversation with God. Was Bill the kind we have our dad, Larry, will talk to anyone. Bill, was it talk to anybody?

He would talk to anybody, friends all over. Like his funeral was so sweet because it was everyone, like the gas station guy, the lights great. You know, the guy from Goodwill, who had been, you know, everybody, like it was the sweet all these old priests that used to like Hang out. I mean, I remember the guy who's this amazing. It's hilarious very awesome priest dr. Ma dr. Mohony

Father what honey? No, he's father. Mahoney Father Mahoney. No, I think you call priest doctor. I think you were right. No, you do, okay fine. I was just like, authority. They used to be father and then they switched it to doctor. Okay. Okay.

He came and said the service, which was really sweet, because they like grew up together, and there was not a summer weekend that I didn't see Father Mahoney in our backyard just enjoying some beers with Bill. It was the best. Anyway, there's plenty more. So, Katherine, I feel like you're on a list with us. Can I say the list that

I think you're on? Yes, please. Someone that everybody assumes is Jewish that is not, right? Yes. Yeah. Yes. It's now really getting through to me as we have really drilled down on Catholicism. Although you did, like, I would say a Jewish person might call a priest doctor. That's how you know it's half Catholic, half Jewish. You have a priest, but you call him doctor. But you, but this is something I'm assuming you've had to deal with your whole life.

Like, I guess I don't know why Han certainly sounds like it could be Jewish as well, but you're just straight Catholic. It's German for rooster. Okay, right, sorry. But I, I mean, I don't know. It was like interesting, like not growing up, but you know, we lived really close

to this Orthodox community, which was so gorgeous. And you know, I remember babysitting and that, you know, they ate kosher and I was like, totally terrified about like what to do and like what would happen to me if I did it wrong. But I and I loved it. And of course, like meeting Ethan, I was like, who's I mean, I'd say we're both like, casual. In our like, I'm like, who's, I mean, I'd say we're both like casual in our, like I'm like, I haven't been to church and like since my dad's funeral, I would say I'm, no, I don't wanna say recovering, but I'm definitely like, like it's not my thing.

Yeah. And Ethan has like definitely more and I really love it. Like I really love it. I really love it. I love the direct contact with, I like the non-punishing part of it. But I, yeah, it was only until weirdly, when I was in Hollywood, when I was in Hollywood, when I first started there,

it was like the best friend chapter and I started to be like, oh, every last name I have has like a Jewish tinge. And I didn't like really put it together until later when it became very clear that this was like, that there was something like what, like going on about it, but yeah. Of course I'm now remembering

where you full rabbi in transparent as well, right? I was a rabbi. Now I will say that the rabbi, the amazing rabbi, Susan Goldberg, who was my like, you know, touchstone throughout the whole thing was so incredible. We still talk all the time. She's like a dear friend. And so that was like, it just felt like the most like, obviously, you can't just like put a costume on and be, you know, whatever Jewish. But I, it was a very meaningful, just like spiritual friendship

that we created. But yeah, I know. But people have always thought you were Jewish too? A hundred. Yeah. I had a locksmith come over, I had to program a key fob for my car. But like the salmon locks. Oh!

Don't give him that much credit, Captain. But this kid that came to program this key file was like, you're Jewish? And I was like, no. And he was like, well. And I was like, well, I mean, my grandfather was Jewish, my dad, you know, but his mother was not. And he's like, yeah, well, you're close. You're pretty close.

And then he just sort of saw that it was in there somewhere back a couple of generations. It is wonderful how even a little bit, they're very happy. Yeah. This guy was very happy. By the way, and I should note, I pulled a, what's known as a Han, fully married into a Jewish family. And are you, but how are you raising your kids? Well, they both had like their bar and bar mitzvahs,

which were very chill. They were like in our house basically. Yeah, of course. But it was like, they wanted to do it. I think they feel like they like, they kind of like the, the like Christian part more for the holidays. Of course, yeah.

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did that happen after college? It happened, I don't think we ever were on an airplane together. Like I think my, I was always for like, you know, work, I would drive to Northwestern and back for, or take the bus, which was an experience. Yeah, the like Greyhound or whatever. But I, yeah, I think it was like for work when I did. I mean, he came out to visit and, you know, my mom to everybody, but it was, yeah, I don't know. He was not a, they took the Concord once,

which he talked about all the time, he and my mom. My dad took it, yeah. Yeah, oh really? Still talking about it. So much talking about the Concorde. I mean, look, if I had been lucky enough, I think this podcast would basically be called Concorde Stories.

Concorde, but honestly, that would be amazing because there's such mystery around it. I know, he also brought us, he bought us a toy Concorde. So we had like, you know, our matchbox cars and then we had the Concorde. And I remember we would talk to our friends when they came over about like, not everybody gets one of these. Your dad's got to be on it. Before Amazon.

He always talked about the supersonic takeoff. Yeah. And then it was smooth. You know, he was like, oh, you could just, you would just have your drink and your nothing would slide. You couldn't believe how fast, you didn't know. Like he was so excited about the PJs or something, like he was very Concord. What if it was actually the Concord Jelly Company?

That fact. And the jelly, the gel you would get on. The jelly, we would eat it with a spoon. But two things. One, I think it's very funny. I like to picture him telling his kids, regaling them with the free PJs on the Concord while you were at a ski resort in the summer. Oh, yeah.

Like while you're like, wait, what? Why? But then why are we here? Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, we went to a place on Lake Erie called Something Waves. And it was an old motel and like cabins right on Lake Erie. And he kind of, my mom, you know, we had one car at the time, we were kind of young, the kids and my mom, like my baby brother was like a baby and, and he had to go back to work.

So he basically dropped us off and left for two weeks and he would come on the weekends. But this place was like, I mean, we were in a cabin right near the like bar, which was on the freeway, which we would go get like burgers. Like that was the place to get food. And we had to duck one night because there was a like a total shootout happened like right outside. Like it was where are we? And then like I remember my mom walking us to get peaches from a farm stand that she had heard about.

But along the freeway. And it took us hours to get there. Like it was in my mind, I was so far away for peaches. And then we had to walk back. Oh my God. It was like, oh, and then he would just come in and be like, is this great? I was, yeah, hilarious.

I wonder where your mom gets the scuttlebutt on the peach, the peach stand on the highway. Like who she's talking to, who's like, hey, you know what you need to do with your kids. I might get in a little bit of trouble here because I will say that would be the most Pyrrhic victory for me because I, there's no peach that's worth.

Oh, I love the word Pyrrhic. Yeah, I mean, I don't, I think peaches are so overrated. And if I had to go on a highway walk and the reward was a peach. You would not be a down. No, I was by the end of it. I was like I was like peaches for life because I felt like I was like this is the end of the you know,

we've made it to Oz and then it was just peaches. But like it was it was like now forever forever I'm like, grill them, put ice cream on it. I'm a, I love, I have to love peaches after that. But do you, is it weird like, you know, cause your kids obviously are growing up in privilege. Do you ever tell them about how you used to have to walk

10 miles to get your peaches on a freeway? During our summer vacation. We didn't have whole foods. We used to have duck bullets. We had to cross an active crime scene. Get our peaches. What, um, can I also say, I think that there's a real audacity

to having waves in the title of a place that's on the shore of a lake. I think, I won't stand for it. No, I know, I know. I gotta find the name of what was what was called like, it was called like something wave, something waves. But I, I, I hear you because there was really no honest beach. There was like just. I wish it was, I will say the honest title would be if it was just called something waves.

But you knew that they were like, whatever. Just, you know. You know where we are. -"Something Waves, anyway." -"Carrie Waves." -"45 Books a Night." I don't know. -"Bring Your Own Teeth." -"The Kevlar Vest." -"Bring Your Own Tarleton Paper." -"Oh."

-"Well, if you're getting burgers, just keep your head down." -"Don't go in the pool. Don't take a bath. and maybe bring your own fruit. But there was no real beach even. It was like just it was like centuries before those pebbles would turn into sand. Like, you know what I mean? It was like walking on hot pebbles to get to the thing. And then being like, hey!

A pebble beach is a real, that's a real kick in the teeth. It's a bummer. It's a bummer. Did you go swimming in Lake Erie? Was that like one of the things you would do there or? Of course, and Lake Erie is like, is beautiful, but there is definitely like a chance

of a syringe floating up or a dirty diaper, or, you know, just used. Like it was like you definitely had to be like, take a shower afterwards. But I loved I loved those vacations. That's what I knew. That was I would hear like people talk about Hilton Head and Myrtle Beach and be like, God, that sounds like a vacation. Like that sounds like there's a boardwalk. You can get like sweatshirts.

It said like, you know, Myrtle Beach. And I really wanted like a Hilton head. Like all those sounded so rad. But we we made like Lake Erie became awesome. My dad. OK, this is another tangent. All talking about my dad and like beautiful stories. He had a lot of outdoor or out, you know,

those motors that you could put on the back of a boat. Yes. And he was always into just putting one in the trunk. My mom was like, no, thank you. And it was a car. The caddy would be like this, like it would just be leaning in the back. It was so heavy. He would go. He would rent one of those like aluminum boats,

like those tiny little shell boats, put his motor on the back. We would have to sit in the front to balance it. And then he would just take off straight into the middle of Lake Erie. Like he would just, he would just, and then he liked to have a little picnic in the middle of Lake Erie while we were that he would wear. We called him the captain.

That's wonderful. I do like that he was trying to, that was as close as he could get you to a Concord takeoff. He was just jamming it on. Did the captain's hat live in like a special box when he wasn't near water or? Well, you know, he would wear it on all the time. Ethan would call him the captain.

Like, he just wore it. Even like, not water-bound? Like, uh... No, and Cedar Point, like, he loved it. Any car trot, any long car ride, he was like... Like, he was basically like the pilot or the, you know, the captain of our ship. And he...

But it turns out, like, when, after he passed away and I went through the house, I thought he had one captain's hat, but then there were so many captain's hats. I don't know where he found them all. But he there was definitely not just one, but we definitely have one at our house. I had to. Was it called Wild Waves Motel and Lake House? Yes. Yeah. Wait, how is it looking? Has it been, I'm sure it has. It looks, I always like to encourage people

to go take family vacations. So, I'm sure people have had great times at Wild Waves. I do doubt that the waves are wild. Yeah. But- It's a rocky beach, like I said. So they do get a little, you know, they do get a little, there's definitely white,

you know, foam on the top. Yeah, but I mean, if that's- She's real, she's real- That's a good picture. That's a pretty picture. Oh my God! Yeah. See, that's gorgeous.

Yeah. Gorgeous. I think it's definitely gotten... Seth passed out. That picture was so good. That was so beautiful. Every time I see a sunset, I pass out. When you lean to the side, what's happening? Because I imagine there's like a spittoon.

I do. I have been... Skoll is a new sponsor of the podcast. Um, you, uh, so what about, uh, you have one of each, you have one boy, one girl. Yes. And then, uh, are you in, are you an Ethan? You have kids, how old are your kids? Eight, six and two, eight, six and two.

Oh, daddy. I know, but it's so good. It's the best. I mean, they're the best right now. Isn't it? And like a little pack of them is like. Yeah, you also, you're getting me on a reality. You're really getting me on a good day.

They all had like exceptional mornings. Oh, oh my God. Isn't that the best feeling? Did they get along? they get along really well. Oh, yeah, they really it's two boys and a girl. And so it's a really nice dynamic because the boys are the boys are two years apart. And then she's a little bit she's three and a half years younger than the youngest in the middle. Sorry. And she's the baby.

And she's also like so she's just like really robust and like won't take any guff. Yeah, that's what I felt like having two brothers for sure. It's really helpful. Our TV room upstairs was called the Fartorium. Yep. Yeah, we definitely grew up with some boys, but you're right in the middle of it. Wow, it's so fun.

We have a funny thing where, you know, by the way, they know fart now, but like the oldest originally called it poo poo gas. And so we tried to hold on to that as long as we could, obviously. And so sometimes we're in the car and one of us, Alexia and I will be like, oh, who poo poo gassed? And the amount that our daughter is like, I did.

Like, I think she sees it as an accomplishment as opposed to anything to be ashamed of. I... She is a girl after my own. Yeah. I take great pride. You know, much to my children's chagrin, I got to put a lid in it, but... Do you guys travel well as a foursome?

You know, I took it on. Like, I really love a lid in it, but it's... Do you guys travel well as a foursome? Yeah, you know, I took it on. Like, I really love a road trip with them. Like, there's... Great. That's like my happy place is just having just the four of us in a car, like, you know, not in... Like, just us. And I love that feeling of just like, you know,

just being on our... There's something just like about being on our own, like having an adventure that I, it's just my happy place. Listening to podcasts. Do you have any games that you play on the regular as a family or? We used to play, oh, on the car trips?

Yeah. Or just in general. Or just in general either. Yeah, we love, I mean, we used to love Uno for a long time. Now we're into Bananagrams, which is hilarious because the made up words are fantastic. Like, and we play, there was really a lot of I Spy or 20 Questions, and my sweet daughter would always say, like without a doubt, she would be like,

what has four legs, eats grass, and is a pony? I'd be like, is it an alligator? No. Is it a... We had, you know that game where you like, you have like a heads up, but we had got one that was just animals. So it's like a kid's introduction to animals. And it had a kangaroo on the front. And so when you play with Axel, everyone he would put on his head,

he would go, is it a kangaroo? And at some point you would play the game and there's only like 30 cards. So you play the game. And at some point, you know, invariably, he'd be right. You go, is it a kangaroo? You're like, it is a kangaroo. It's like, oh, I guessed it. It's we started which our daughter made, tried to make up a or she did. She made up her version of celebrity just with the three of us,

because my son is in New York for the summer, which is pretty amazing. But he she made up this game just the three of us, which is already impossible. But she was like round round one, you know, as many words as you need to get there, here's your timer. Round two, you just say one word and you have to get it. But we never went through all the cards. She was like, write as many as you can.

So mine, my first one that I had to describe in one word was candle shop. And I was like, honey, like, I don't know how to describe candle shop in one word in a way that someone would get it. She's like, good luck then, mom. And she was like, It's so funny. Time. You're like Wick. No, Wick would be good for candle mom,

but not good for candle shop. He'd be like, canneries. Like there was like no, no way out. It made me laugh so hard. I love this. I love when they when you're already. So bored while they're explaining the game you're going to play, like, you know, you're going to be bored playing it.

And my my oldest can be so boring. And just like just, just in the pre-land, like just in the, yeah, like whatever, the preface, whatever you call it, the preamble, sorry, that's what I was looking for. The preamble of the game, I'm like, I am willing to accept being bored while we're playing this, but could we just get to that boring?

Just please, because we're gonna then get to it, play one round before you get bored, and then I have to put it all away. because we're gonna then get to it, play one round before you get bored, and then I have to put it all away. Like, it is hilarious, the preamble. It would be like before a three hour play, if the director came out and was like, this is long, and I'm gonna talk for about 30 minutes

about how long. I need to give you a play by play of what you're going to see before and what could possibly go wrong and how you could screw it up. That's what we get. I have a genuine curiosity because you're very funny.

Ethan is very funny. Do your kids think you're funny? Or no, okay. They think Ethan is very funny. Okay. He's very funny. Which he is. He's very funny. Ethan is very funny. Okay, he's very funny. Which he is, he's very funny.

He's very funny, but with me, it's a lot of like, like a little bit like, like a kind of patronizing, like, there's like a lot of like, or like, ah, you know, I get a lot of mom jokes, that kind of. Are you, are you like bad cop? Is Ethan good. Are you like bad cop? Is Ethan good cop and you're bad cop? Or do you have to be the taskmaster? It's a good mix because, you know,

I had been out of town a lot when they, you know, that's just the job. And so he would have to like set a lot of stuff, especially when they became like teens. And then I would come home and be like, what's happening? And then we would, but yeah, it's the teenage years are, turns out when they need you the most. And so I, it's been, I love the teenage years.

It's so fun to all of a sudden just like go see a movie and talk about it and like, you know, it's the best and also it is freaking flying. So I have to stop myself, especially with my son, cause he's like, are you crying? And I was like, no, like, but everything feels like the laugh. Like, I don't know, it feels very, the stakes are very high. And for me, I'm just trying to like, just hang with him

and just be, cause he's so rad. So it's fun. I'm not surprised you guys have rad kids. That is no surprise to me at all. No, they both are. They both are just hilarious and rad. Do they appreciate that you are in the Marvel universe? Does that mean anything to them?

I kind of, we missed him by, I missed him by a couple of years. I think they would have been, but of course, I didn't tell them a thing about WandaVision and then we all watched it together during the pandemic. And so they had the legitimate surprise or whatever, which was really fun. Well, it was, I mean, for them, I guess it's their mom.

I think for a lot of us, it was like knowing your work before. I feel like it was like sort of a classic casting of you that became a sort of wonderfully thrilling thing we hadn't seen. It was so much fun. It was so much fun. Now you get to do it in a whole series in Agatha all along. No. I mean, I'm like, am I did it? I think it all led to me playing a witch.

Like, I think it all led to me playing a witch. Like, I think it all led to the witch inside, come bustin' out. But she, but yeah, it was really, I'm excited for people to see it, it was fun. Yeah, great cast. How far after WandaVision did, were you hip to the fact that there was gonna be this show that was just about Agatha?

It was like that summer after. Oh good, so it wasn't right away. That's exciting. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I was playing a centuries old witch that nobody had heard of, like, you know, it was bonkers, but you know, it's very fun. Centuries old, people forget. People tend to forget when you're centuries old, but.

No, and when you look this awesome, like it's very difficult to forget. Yeah. I mean, you should remember. It's difficult to forget. Yeah. You should remember. It's difficult to forget. Do you have a, do your kids have a favorite work of yours? The goods. The goods. We watch it every holiday. I mentioned the goods because Neil Brennan.

I love him. I love the goods. The goods is great. Give him my love. He just directed my standup special, my next standup special. Oh, my goodness. I love you. I love the goods. The goods is great. Give him my love.

He just directed my stand-up special, my next stand-up special. Oh, no kidding. He's a peach, a peach. I would walk thousands of miles, you see? But please give him, please give him my love. Is that, when people say he's a peach, is that what they're talking about?

Are you willing to walk down a freeway for them? That's the expression. That's how special they are. I started it. Guys, someone's gonna poke their head into frame and then leave real quick. What? I was just being poked in the butt and now the arm.

Yeah. You were totally hidden for so long. Well, he admitted all that, but look. That's a dash. He just went to- I didn't even see you come in. He scrapped himself at sailboat lessons. No, I need to not. Where? Let me see.

Owie! Well, yeah. All right, great work. I'm going to be done in a second. I was on one of those metal benches and it tipped over what's behind. Gotcha. Okay, we're going to fill everybody in. I would say, you know, when you tell your friends, maybe say it was sailing, and not that you were just sitting on a bench that tipped over with you. Gotcha, okay, we're gonna fill everybody in. I would say, you know, when you tell your friends, maybe say it was sailing, and not that you were just sitting on a bench

that tipped over. It's funnier. It's funnier to be on a bench. It is funnier. It is. It is funnier to be on a bench that tipped over. He's absolutely right. My son came back from sailing lessons,

he was with a big... I can't hear anybody. What? You can't hear anybody, no. You can hear me. You wanna say hi to Posh real quick? Excuse me, sorry about this, guys. Hi. Hey buddy, how are ya?

I hear you tipped off a bench. You don't need it. You don't need it that close. A very good microphone. Wait a minute, my name is Catherine. It's so nice to meet you, and I think your scrape is cool. I love a good scrape. It's terrible.

Ah, I bet it hurts to take a bath. I bet it stings in a pool. Well, I do have a pool. I'm going to the beach now. Oh. Well, we'll find it. It might sting in the beach. That's salt water, but it's good to do it. I'm not going in the water.

All right. Okay. Great. Good update. I'll see you soon. Hey, a pleasure meeting you. Oh my goodness. All right, great. Good update. I'll see you soon. Hey, a pleasure meeting you. Oh my goodness. All right, well. I want him to kind of maybe interview. That would be fantastic if he has any questions.

Being like, who are you? They can hear you, yeah. Yeah. Hey, will you real quick, remember when we played the bowling game? Can you explain the four rounds that you came up with? Oh, please. Even he's like, oh,

I'm starting to think those weren't great. Is he gone? Bye. He's leaving now. All right. Bye, buddy. He's out. Bye. So, all right. But what a... And he's right. The bench is funnier. It does take a tinge to be like, I screwed myself on my sailing lesson. But like, that is, that's funnier. He is a real nectarine. I'm gonna close the door, yeah. Pre-peach fuzz. He's a real donut peach.

Those peaches are weird. I don't know if I trust them. Those like cosmic peaches. If you have one of these. I'm sorry. If you have one of these new varieties of peaches are weird. I don't know if I trust them. Those like cosmic peaches. They're like squished. If you have one of these, I'm sorry. If we talk about new varieties of peaches here, Seth, hang on.

Oh, then I'm gonna jump in and stop our listeners from having to hear that. Nobody wants to hear our peaches. I don't know if you have one of your kids that's more like injury prone. Ash is so injury prone. Like the fact that he sat on a bench and it tipped over. If you said one of your kids sat on a bench and tipped over,

I would bet all of my money on that. All of your money, every cent of my money. I thought my money. No more sailing lessons. I would I would say that both both kids were extremely accident prone when they were your son's age. But now my son is so cool for school, he just kind of slides through it. And my daughter who's 15, we both have cases of the dropsy. Like we just all of a sudden things just like fall over hands and we're like, ah, but she's,

you know, she's, they're so fricking fearless. Like she rides horses and she has been for a really long time at this like awesome barn at Atwater Village, which you would never even think of it. I know. And she's the paddocks. But it's right next to the LA, the great waves, no wild waves of Atwater Village.

But she, you know, it's the fearlessness of just like walking up to this huge creature and just being like, no, no, no. Like she's a very stern rider. Like she really has them in the palm of her hand. It's very funny to watch. Yeah. My fiance is an equestrian

and when you sort of see someone around a horse who knows horses, like who like, a horse is like kicking up, it's like front hoof and she's like, hey, stop it. And it's like, whoa, I wouldn't tell that horse to stop it. I just like step back and let it- Oh, you need a minute, buddy? Like I'm so-

Yeah. Let me get you a carrot. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You wanna just hang out today, I get it. I don't need to get on a saddle. And then as soon as I get up there, I'm like, ah! But she's, but yeah, it's very funny to watch that.

I wish I could have heard his bowling. I will tell you this, you mentioned the Dropsies the other day, he ran outside. I was outside and he ran over and he gave me a hug. And I was like, what was that for? He was like, I just love you. And I was like, oh, that's so sweet. He goes, also, you know that bowl the candy's in? I just knocked it over and mom is so mad at me.

I was like, put a little air between I love you and I'm using you as like mafia protection. No, but they do that when they start to like go to one parent or the other, that's when you're like, okay, because there's a lot of that. I remember my son when we were in our old house and he was like sleeping in his like big boy bed and you know, cause he had, I mean, he was like not even two, whatever he was sleeping in his big boy bed and, you know, cause he had,

I mean, he was like not even two, whatever he was. And he, in the middle of the night, he just walked in our room and we were like, buddy, what's up? Can you not sleep? He's like, oh no, I just found this DVD on the floor. And he was so lying because he just couldn't sleep and just wanted to hang out.

But you know when it's like, oh my God. Our son Axel, the middle one does a thing where he is not confident with the one lie. So it's always two. Like, so I'll come in the middle of the night. You're like, what's wrong? He's like, my tooth is loose and my leg hurts. It's not both.

It's neither. By the fact that you put two, it means it's neither. It literally can't pick a leg. It's like my dad. Like literally, you got to have a swing and be a child. I, you know, we kind of opened with and since we're going to let you go, so the Draino, he put Draino in a bathtub and it really fell through the floor. He left it there for so long and it must have been, I mean our house was old to begin with and like I don't think we ever saw a handyman. It was all my dad who was like MacGyver. Like he did keep it together. Duck tape and all. But he, I guess that's what happens. It was like the bottom of the tub

was rotting out anyway and so all of a sudden in the living room, it was just like, rawr, just like this one area. Why does this always happen to me? He came up to me. Why does this never happen to people who don't put Drano in tubs? We, all right, Catherine, this has just been fantastic. Oh my God.

What a delight. What a delight. What a delight. And I also want to say, I love Polar and Jones so much. They're like, they're dear, dear friends. And your TikTok. Thank you. Was so hilarious. TikTok of the summer.

TikTok of the summer. I mean, it's tip top of the summer. It's tip top, yeah. But it was really... It is really, it is the funniest thing because I don't understand or comprehend TikTok. And Polar is, as you know, and we say this is two people, three people who love her, very bossy.

She said, we're doing this TikTok. And I said, I don't think I want to do it. She's like, then don't be in it. I didn't ask you. And so then I made my little subtle move to walk behind and what a thing. I mean, it's like having a non-speaking role in Citizen Kane. I know. I couldn't,. I mean, it's like having a non-speaking role in Citizen Kane.

I know. They were like, it's going viral. And I was like, let me see this. And then I was like, you guys, it's also legitimate hilarious. And when she does that thing with the bag, I'm like, you are the cutest thing I've ever seen. And so fucking so freaking funny.

Yeah. That's what I see on my birthday. First time hearing of this. You did, yeah. Oh, you've gotta see it. I don't know what this is. Josh is gonna see this TikTok and I'm just gonna get ahead of it.

He's gonna be underwhelmed. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay, that's your, but as a brother, I understand that. Yeah. It's kind of your job. I mean, as much as like you are, I am both receiving your praise

and I am also smart enough not to say to Josh, you gotta see it. I really wish that I could see your reaction to seeing it, but it is hilarious. Well, I'm not gonna brag, gonna see Rashida tonight. You are. I am.

Ah, give her my love. I will. I just miss her so much. She's the best? You're the best. And before you go, you have to answer the questions we ask all of our guests and Josh has been started. Okay, rapid fire.

You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational? Ah, adventurous. What is your favorite means of transportation? Train, plane, automobile, boat, bike, walking? Oh, I, it depends where and how far. But I love, I do love a car, but I love a plane.

Okay, very good. This one, little trickier? Nothing like the Concorde. You have to know, there. Nothing like the Concord. Yeah, nothing like the Concord. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what it would be fascinating to take a family vacation with the Duns when they were, when everybody was like younger before like all that freaking tragedy. But like, just are you reading? Have you read the book? I'm in the middle of it. It's the book. It's the book of the summer. It's the book of the summer. I love Griffin

so much. We did a show together and it was, um... I just, he's such a good writer. Of course he is. But, yeah, it's incredible. This is Griffin Dunn, Posh. And I have reached out. We gotta have him on the podcast. Oh, you have to. It's the greatest...

It's like... It's nonfiction, but it reads like the great American fiction. It does. And also, he is an incredible storyteller. I hope he is on your podcast because he is so funny and such a good storyteller. And I do... wait, it's the Friday Afternoon Club. I do, for anybody listening, Friday Afternoon Club is Griffin Dunn's book about his incredible family. And if you're looking for a summer book, it is the one to read.

Yeah. All right. Great answer. Great. If you had to be so- Thank you! I'm so validated. Yeah, you're one for three so far. You all were doubtful of my way of, of my mode of having a vacation.

You're like, adventurous? No, it's relaxing. Yeah. I can see it on both your faces. We were like, wait, what? But I nailed it. Okay. If you had to be stranded on a desert island

with one member of your family, who would it be? I mean, I gotta say Ethan, but I, so I would say Ethan or, oh, I can't, I can't pick between my children. Certainly not after you said Ethan. So now there's somebody who's gonna definitely be last. Yeah, I'd stop at Ethan. Yeah, just do Ethan.

Yeah, Ethan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, great. You're from Cleveland Heights, correct? Yes. Would you recommend Cleveland Heights as a vacation destination? You know what? I actually would because in the summer it's gorgeous and the museum, we have like one of the only free art museums

in the country and it's so good. There's so many incredible museums and it's really gorgeous. And you're close to the Amish, which is always a really fun side trip. Great. And Seth has our final the Amish, which is always a really fun side trip. Great. And Seth has our final questions. Okay, great. Catherine, have you been to the Grand Canyon?

Yes, one time. With Bill or with Ethan? That was a dream of my dads that never, but we did it with the four of us, this family. And then it was pretty amazing. We stayed in that old, old hotel on the top and the view is so beautiful. It was like on our...

So worth it. So you categorized it, because the follow-up is, was it worth it? Yes. Okay. Yes. It's better than photos. All right.

Sold. But I am gonna picture you and Bill being there and he's going down on a rascal in a captain's hat. For sure. And air conditioning somehow. He has an air conditioner duct taped to the rascal. And just nursing the same iced tea with like seven packs of Splenda from yesterday.

I will say that my, if I could be stranded on a desert island with any member of your family, I do think it would be Bill, and I hope you won't be. Oh my, yes. He. Bill has come off very well. Very well. I'm glad.

He was one in a gazillion. Yes, well that is very. As all of our parents. Will you give our love to your entire family? Yes, I will. And this was so fun. And I'm so glad you guys are doing this because those memories are really,

they're like the core ones as a kid. Like that's what you remember, you know. And I am, I loved One Division so much. I can't wait for Agatha all along. That's gonna premiere on September 18th. Thank you, Catherine. We love you. Oh, you guys, on September 18th. Thank you, Catherine. We love you. All you guys, thank you so much.

Thank you. Come on. Thank you. ["The Haunts Headed Out"] The haunts headed out to the wild waves On a lakey-ree trail They loved the lake for a wobbly picnic They took a walk to get some peaches Miles on the highway was their route And they were careful not to get caught and issued out

At home the captain took a bottle of Draino And then the tub fell through the ceiling And then the tub fell through the ceiling And then the tub fell through the ceiling The whole damn thing came crashing down On the first floor was a round.