Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - KE HUY QUAN Walked the Grand Canyon's Horseshoe Bridge

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

This week, Seth and Josh welcome a guest you won’t be able to stop smiling along with…Ke Huy Quan! Ke talks all about his incredible journey escaping Vietnam to the U.S., growing up with a lot of siblings, the personal impact his movies like 'Indiana Jones' and 'Everything Everywhere All at Once' have had on him, visiting family in Houston, his short-lived restaurant gig, his visit to the Grand Canyon, and so much more! Plus, Ke talks about his upcoming film Zootopia 2, releasing November 26, 2025! Support our sponsors: TovalaFor a limited time, save up to $300 on the Tovala smart oven when you order meals 6+ times, by visiting Tovala.com/TRIPS and using code TRIPS.Tropical Smoothie CafeTropic Fan Fest is back on at Tropical Smoothie Cafe®! Which means: FREE smoothies**! A free smoothie** every. single. day – for a whole week,Nov 3 - 9 2025 with bowl or food purchase. Joining Tropic Rewards®. Just download the app, sign up and start sippin’! **Terms and conditions apply.HuelToday, get Huel for FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF with this exclusive offer for New Customers only with code trips at https://huel.com/trips (Minimum $75 purchase). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Find a Cafe near you. Terms and Conditions. As they always do, apply. Here we go. Hey, Bashi. Hey, Sufi. How are you? I'm very good. I'm glad to hear it. I was on the road this weekend. Oh, yeah. I went to, I did a show Miami of Ohio, and I did a show in Columbus. And the nice thing about, it's rare for me to do shows on a weekend where it's kind of easy to drive.

So I rented a car and drove around Ohio. You didn't drive from New York. No, no, no, sorry. I flew to Columbus, and then I drove two hours, did a show of Miami of Ohio. Then after that, I drove to Cincinnati, so I could have breakfast in Cincinnati with an old college friend. Oh, nice. And I drove from Cincinnati to Columbus. And then after the show in Columbus, I had dinner with our friends Doug and Claire and a couple of their kids.

Yeah. It was a really fun weekend. Yeah. And then I flew home early because I'm a good dad. flew home super early on Sunday morning and Alexi was on a trip with her sister she went to Paris so the boys and Addy had been with my in-laws and my brother-in-law

and I landed and Tom my father-in-law texted me and said what time do you get home and I said I'm going to be home at 11 a.m. And he said oh I was going to take the boys to Coney Island but you probably want to see him now I love my boys Pashi but I was like get them out of the house and it was a dream come true now I came home and I spent the whole day

with Addie so it wasn't like I was but the boys went to Coney Island with their with their grandpa and just had a killer time yeah I've I've only seen Coney Island once I rode my bike out there back in the days I was I was living in New York working on something and it looks great I mean it It looks like it's so much fun. And it looks like very much like we used to always go to, we had an uncle and uncle who still lives in Salem, Massachusetts. And there's like a little local sort of carnival-y kind of vibe with, you know, an arcade and some taffy called the Salem Willows. And Coney Island looks like the Salem Willows just times, I don't know, a hundred. Yeah.

I mean, actual, you know, roller coasters rides. Yeah. Axel did not get on a ride because he was too short. And then again, we've talked about how they're not reliable narrators. But then according to him and Ash, he then went and found some hay, and he put hay in his shoes and then was tall enough to go on the ride. I asked if they rode the cyclone, and it turned out they hadn't, because on the hour-long subway ride out to Coney Island,

their grandpa told them that seven people had died on the cyclone over the years and exactly how each one had died he's like one of them stood up too soon and his head came off

oh my gosh they didn't do that but they had Nathan's hot dogs and unfortunately Axel lost a hat he loved was it that Mario Brothers hat no no that one now sadly that's still on the premises

the other thing which I know I showed a picture with you. I did this event for Topps basketball cards. Oh, yeah. And this was last Thursday, and it was at the NBA store in New York. And I went and I brought the boys and Carl Anthony Towns, O.G.

and Inobie and Josh Hart, three of the New York Knicks were there. And they signed Axel's Knicks hat, and he immediately lost it at Coney Island. Now, I'm going to work overtime to get another one. But I will say, you know, you and I grew up Celtics fans. I'm still a Celtics fan. Now, I have a real flex

if the boys want to be Knicks fans, I kind of celebrate that. You've mentioned this, yeah. And it is, they are just, I mean, all it took was them. I mean, they were all three of those guys were so nice, but man, Carl Anthony Towns, just a prince when it comes to, like,

being nice to kids and stuff. Oh, that's awesome. It was pretty awesome. I, uh, little announcement here. I was on a trip. I went out to the desert a couple weeks ago because I was shooting a video podcast. Oh, right.

I've taken over hosting duties for California now, which is a podcast put on by Visit California, which is the Board of Tourism for California. So I'm becoming the voice of California tourism. And we started rolling the episodes out. We only have one every three weeks, but our first one has dropped. It's about California myths, legends, and lore. and we talk about, talk to a guy in Northern California, about Mount Shasta, how there's potentially an ancient race of people that live inside the mountain, talk to him about Bigfoot, which is sort of more Bigfoot sightings up in Northern California, and then talk to this guy

out in the Mojave Desert who had some stories about alien encounters and Yucca Man, who is sort of the deserts. answer to Bigfoot. And it's been really fun to do. And we've got this episode that we just shot on Route 66, which is turning 100 next year. So to celebrate the centennial, we went out and looked at some classic, quirky, quintessential Route 66 destinations. And yeah, it's been really fun. That's fantastic. And is that available wherever you get your podcast? That's available wherever you get your podcasts. And we're doing three of them actually on the road, and those will be worth watching on YouTube

but if you're interested if you're coming to California if you're thinking about coming to California if you live in California and you're looking to sort of uncover some places that you haven't been to yet if you meet

if you meet a Bigfoot will you get him to do this podcast absolutely I mean I hope he's got a family and I hope he's taking trips yeah he seems like a guy who would like the Grand Canyon

yeah I think he'd really like it Thank you to appreciate its nature. Very excited about today's guest, Ki, Hui Kwan. This is someone who has had just a fantastic, sort of two, at this point, like two major act career. Yeah. And is just a fantastic person.

I've been looking at. Seems like a nice person. Seems like a nice person. Yeah, a nice person who appreciates how crazy this business can be and how to appreciate it when it's going your way. So I hope you enjoy the conversation, and we will let you listen to it now. How are you? So exciting.

So exciting. I'm a big fan, Seth. As you know, we met one time. I don't know if you remember. I do remember. We were at the New York Films Critic Film Circle Awards. Very good. Yes, very good.

That's right. Hi, Josh. Hi, how are you? Good, good. Josh and I have been friends with Jordan Peel forever. And I remember you made a joke that night about the fact that he had worked with Keegan Michael Key and Kiki Palmer,

and you were very upset that he had yet to work with you. I love him so much. It wasn't actually, it wasn't my joke. He came over to our table, and we just started chatting, and he said something, and then it just made me thought of that, and then when I went up on the stage,

I just wanted a laugh, because you guys are so good at what you do. And, yeah, that was a memorable night for me. I remember meeting you, Colbert, Jordan Peel, and a lot of wonderful people. Kate Blanchard and I met her there. It was a great night. It was a special year, obviously.

And I think all of us were so genuinely happy to one, to like be reintroduced to you on screen and to have it be that film. And then to watch everybody, obviously, there was no shortage of awards for your incredible work on that film. By the way, I got to say I listened to the episode with Josh Brolin.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's so good. I love listening to him. I can listen to him all day. But he has this beautiful man voice for podcasts. You know, and I have the exact opposite. Well, he did intimidate me.

And in our end of those, we do a sort of speed round of questions at the end. And I said he could only say one thing. And he said two. And I just gave it to him without even batting an eyelash. Oh, yeah. He's so tough. He's very smooth. He's very smooth. Yeah. Smooth and also you always feel like he could just sort of punch you in the face. Yep. And you guys, of course, and I will say, I believe I said it to him as well, which is, you know, obviously you guys work together in Goonies, which is a movie that holds up so well and it was so thrilling to show it to my kids. You know, he said something that was very relatable to me. He said, you know, for many, many years when he goes out, all people want to talk to him about was the Goonies.

Yeah. And that was what it was like for me for 40 years. And, yeah, we're very blessed, very grateful to be part of that movie. But then, you know, as you get older, you keep thinking, wait, is that it? Is that the only thing that I do that people are going to be going to care about? I just had Jason Bateman on my show and I was busting him because he has a beard in that new show he does with Jude Law. And so I showed a picture of Teen Wolf 2, which he was in. And he said very much, he goes, you know, the nice thing about that is I can laugh about it because it wasn't the last movie I was in.

You know what he's like, I like talking about Teen Wolf, too. He goes, because, of course, there was a period of time where it's the same thing. And you just go, oh, I mean, obviously I love the experience, but is this going to be what people talk to me about? And, you know, by the way, I would feel that way if, you know, when people are always like, oh, I loved you on SNL, what are you up to now? I'm like, oh, no, they don't know that I have a show. Yeah, no, it's one of those. I guess as an actor, you just have to be really patient and stick to it. And one day, hopefully, an opportunity will come along and will change everything for you again.

And that's what the Daniels, Dan Quine and Daniel Shiner did for me with everything everywhere all at once. I was sort of late to the game seeing everything everywhere all at once in theaters, but I knew I wanted to see it in theaters. And I saw it, I forget even what it's called now. I won at Laurel Canyon and Sunset. But I saw it there and a small theater and God, I loved it so much. And then my wife hadn't seen it and her mother hadn't seen it. And her mom was coming to visit. And I was like, this is a perfect movie for them.

It has so much like mother, daughter connection stuff in it. I was like, this is great that neither one of them has seen it. I know how good it is. It was before it sort of won all the awards. and we put it on at home and my mother-in-law is looking at her phone and about 40 minutes in, she puts her phone down and says, all right, what's going on in this movie?

And I was like, how dare you? And then, like, I'm not kidding, the credits were rolling and the two of them got in a fight about something. And I was like, this is absolutely not what I wanted to happen. No, this really speaks to going to a movie theater. So, you know, I love Jamie Lee Curtis. and the whole time we were filming it,

I mean, we were having such a good time, and she knew what she was doing. Like, you know, she's a pro, and it wasn't until when we screened the movie at South by Southwest. And we were all standing, you know, in the backstage waiting to be introduced out to the audience, you know, after the credits rolled.

And she came up to the Angels, and she said, oh, now I know what we made. Now I know what the movie is about. It makes sense. I mean, obviously, it's an incredible script, but it's so visual. It would be hard to absolutely understand what it was going to look like until you saw it.

Yeah, it was an incredible journey. So this is, speaking of incredible journeys, like you have one of those family trips that is out of necessity, more than out of sort of leisure or relaxation. So you, your entire family, you were born in Vietnam. Yes. And you're how old when you're, this is after the war, you're four years old when your family leaves?

No, I was, I was seven. Okay, seven. We made multiple attempts to leave. The first attempt, I was seven years old. I didn't know what was going on. My parents didn't tell me that we would be leaving and not come back. And that first attempt, we got caught. And I ended up spending, you know, time in jail with my father.

Just the two of you or other siblings as well? No, they put you separately. Okay. The first attempt, because we, I have such a big family, so you couldn't. There was 11 of us. My parents had nine kids. I have nine kids. So we couldn't all try to, you know,

escape at the same time. That would just way too much people, we'd draw too much attention. So we split up. So the first attempt was just my dad, my older brother and I. And we didn't even, we barely made it to the boat

when we got caught. And then they threw us in jail. And I was there for three weeks the first time. Oh, my gosh. And then we went home. Where are you on the nine siblings? Where do you land? I'm seventh.

Okay, gotcha. So my parents have six daughters and three sons. I guess they kept chasing for the, you know, this is Chinese culture for you. The first two kids they have, it was, you know, was my two sisters, so daughters. They had a son on their third child, and then they feel that, you know, let's have another son, so they try again. And then with the fourth and six, well, it was also daughters. And then by the time I came rolling out, you know, seven, then they go, well, you know, now it's like two to five.

Let's have another son. And then finally, after the ninth child, which is my little brother, Dave, who I love him to death, that's when they stopped. Gotcha, yeah. And so your parents, though, both Chinese, is that correct as well? Yes, Chinese. Okay, gotcha. So you let me, and if I can just ask on the detail here,

so you said you got caught before you went to the boat, like what was the destination of the boat had been then? It was, I mean, I don't know all the little details, but it was, you know, it was one of those times where you escape in the middle of the night, trying not to let your neighbors know, not trying not to draw too much of attention. And then there would be a car that takes you to the beach to where the boat is. And it's just, you know, a tiny little boat that you're hoping to just get out. That was just the goal, was just to get out. And, and, and, and, and, and, and not really quite sure where you're going to end up.

And, yeah, so the first attempt we got caught, I came home to, with half of my family missing. Because at the same time, my mom took my little brother, my little sister, and one of my older sister. And they, you know, they make their own attempt to escape, and they succeeded and ended up going to, to Malaysia. Wow. So, first of all, you spent three weeks in jail as a seven-year-old? Yeah, it's a seven-year-old, yeah. Do you have vivid memories of what that was like?

When I think about my son, who's currently seven, I can't even comprehend the idea. I have images. Yeah. Were you with your father physically, or was he in a different sort of cell? I was with my father physically. In one cell, my brother was in a different cell.

Okay. And, yeah, I have images of him. I remember feeling like, what are we doing here? Because as a kid, all you want to do is just run around, just roam free, just have the freedom to go anywhere you want. But, you know, that's not something you're able to do when you're behind bars. So, yeah, so I, you know, we were there for three weeks. I came home, half of my family is missing, and then my dad tried again.

this time with the rest of the family. Wow. My dad and six of us. So the seven of us, we tried again, and we got caught again. And this time, we ended up staying in the cell way longer for three months. Unbelievable. And by then, it was just horrendous. I think a lot of time, I think that experience was so traumatic.

I think I blocked most of it. And, you know, and honestly, like, we, between our families, we rarely talk about that because I think everybody went through their own trauma. But once in a while, you know, we'll, you know, sit down and share just some of those stories. It's very, very little bit snippets of it. So, but that was, so that time there were also, was there anyone younger than you in the three months in that was with you? No, no, no, I was the youngest. Everyone younger was with your mom. Yes.

Got it. Yeah. Wow. And did you know that your mother had made it to Malaysia specifically? Were there letters or was it, I mean, were there phone calls or? By the second time, by the second attempt, we did. Okay. You know, we received the news that she was safe in Malaysia and just waiting to be immigrated to, you know, to another country.

Yeah. So that was the news. that we got. Yeah. And, but, you know, I think because of that news, it gave my father even more courage. Right. To go, wow, now we really need to succeed in getting out. And, I mean, honestly, back then it was such a different, different time.

Of course, now Vietnam is a wonderful place. You know, people visit there all the time. But this was just right after the war. And there was a lot of the, a lot of the Chinese population who would live. in Saigon at that time. Now it's called Hojiming City. But a lot of the Chinese community would be in targeted.

And that was the reason why my parents decided to leave. And, you know, we're thinking, you know, they want a better future for their children. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break

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When you eventually, when your father and the six of you got out, was that also a successful escape or was it a little bit more official when you finally made it? By the third time, it was. By the third time, it wasn't, you know, we weren't hiding anymore. Got it. It was in the wide open, you know, we paid and, you know, we were on a boat with over 3,000 people. crammed into this crammed into this cargo boat

headed for Hong Kong and when we got there they freaked out they didn't I mean they've accepted refugees before but it was just like maybe one or two

or five or ten but here we are I think a total it was like 3,300 people on a boat called the Hui Fong and they said please go

please go to somewhere else. We have no space for you. And what was really incredible is at that time, UNHCR really got involved with the Hong Kong government and try to work out a plan for them to accept us and then also to get us out of there. I think this was two years ago. I went to UNXCR in Geneva's headquarters.

And I was invited to look at some of the archives. Wow. And we're just browsing through the archives and just reading some of the facts that were going back and forth between the Hong Kong government and UNXCR was really emotional. And I saw, I found my family's name in those archives.

Who, what's the organization that you're, the Hong Kong government was communicating with who, the something CR? Yeah, UN, UNHCR. Okay. And, yeah, I found our family's name in those archives. And I remember just staring at it for a long time, just like those memories, like just let it sinking in and kind of, kind of went back and, you know, visit some of those memories. It was really, it was incredible. It was very emotional for me, too.

So when did the whole family reunite and where? Los Angeles. Wow. In 1979, after a year in a refugee camp. So how many years had it been, how long it had been since you'd seen your mother and the siblings she was with? Almost two years.

Wow. Almost two years. Separated two years. And, you know, and my little brother was my best friend. Yeah. And I hadn't seen him this entire time. My mom, too. So when we finally got all the paperwork and we're given, you know, this,

a permission to come to this country, we were ecstatic. And so we got to Hong Kong on a boat and then all of us got on a plane for the first time. And we came here. Where was the reunion with your mother and your other siblings? The reunion was, I mean, you know, they picked us up at the airport. And it was just surreal to see, you know, to see the whole family again. And then we all went back home. My mom cooked for 11 of us.

And as always, you know, there was a lot of food, you know, because there was a lot of adolescents, a lot of teenagers. You know, and we, you know, our family loves to eat. We love food. And I remember that first night well. And what was really interesting is that we didn't have a car back then. We just lived in Chinatown, and we didn't need to go anywhere else. Our life existed only in that one mile radius. Everywhere we needed was, you know, my school was just right down the hill, the supermarket.

at the restaurants, the doctor office, all of that was just within one mile radius. And I never had a reason to leave there. And what is really so interesting was it was only just four years later. It was the movies that took me out of Chinatown. Right. That's unbelievable. So you, and that first night, like, was it,

how long did it take to sort of fall back in with the siblings and your mom? Like, was it immediate that it felt normal? Or especially your brother, who was your best friend. Did you guys immediately reconnect or did it take a little bit of time? I didn't, I don't remember taking a very long time, but I'm sure that first night was a little awkward

because we haven't been together in a long time. And then also, I mean, this was at a time where all of us has went through this, you know, this incredible experience. And not only us, you know, the people, our neighbors, they were all very similarly, you know, they all had similar journeys. but we as a family were very, very close.

When I was young, I never had friends. I didn't need to have friends because my family was my friends. So we were a very, very tight and close family. What did your parents do when they first got to the States? They went to work right away. My mom was working for a jewelry store as a salesperson. And my dad, when he was in Vietnam, he was the owner of a plastic bags factory. He owned, you know, he manufactures plastic bags.

So when he got here, of course, we didn't have any money, so he couldn't have his own store. So he started working for other people. Gotcha. Yeah. What an incredible thing. That's just the level of parenting required to just take care of nine children through something. like that it is yeah but also but also because because there was a there's a there's a big age gap between my oldest sister and my youngest brother uh and and you know as they were growing up they were at

that age where they could take care of us too right yeah so they were kind of they were kind of you know uh stepping in for my mom uh when my mom left you know when we when i was in in in vietnam uh without my brother without my mom so kind of my oldest siblings kind of acted as the matriarch for me. I also imagine that the community was probably so tight-knit that there was always people sort of looking out for you in Chinatown, or maybe that's not the case, did people sort of stay in their own family units,

or is it like everyone here has gone? No, it was a really friendly, you know, neighborhood. There were only a few places that, you know, at that time, that group of people who escape Vietnam, there were only a few places that they immigrated to. You know, some went to Paris, some went to London. A lot of them came to Los Angeles and ended up in Orange County, California. So in our neighborhood, there were a lot of people who my parents actually knew back in Vietnam.

Wow. Did you, were you guys, would you say as kids you were well-behaved and, like, respected your parents? Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. My parents were very strict. Very strict. I mean, my dad was very stern, but also very lovable. But he's not the kind of person that will give you a hug and tell you, I love you. You know, he'll show that by taking you out for a meal or just sharing a fruit with you that he was eating. That was his way of showing affection. We never got, you know, we never got the, oh, Oh, I love you. You know, I'm so proud. None of that, none of that. But it was mostly, you know, but when we were bad, I mean, we got spanked and we got hit. Yeah.

Well, I would imagine. After everything they went through, if you guys were bad, I know I shouldn't say this, Josh. I think you deserved it. Did you ever, you mentioned going to Geneva. Did your family ever as a group go back to either China or? or Vietnam, were those trips you ever took? I went back. My mom went back.

Some of my siblings did. I went back in 1995 to do a movie there. In Vietnam. In Vietnam in Hoje Ming City. And it was quite surreal because I was just, you know, our crew were Vietnamese with local people. And I couldn't stop but think, wow, had we, not, you know, successfully, you know, made it out, I had no idea what I would be doing.

I might be the boom guy. I might be there. Who knows? I might, I don't even know if I would even be in this business. But it was, it was an, but it also, it looked very different. And at the same time, there is some familiarity at that time, you know, you know, the food, the culture, the people was very similar. except, you know, there were a lot of newer buildings, and transportation got, you know, there were a lot more cars. And back then it was just all scooters.

Yeah. Did you have any family that had stayed behind? I know that sort of your immediate family, but were there any grandparents or uncles or anyone that had stayed? Yes, uncles, aunts. My cousins, a lot of them were still there. So I got to say hi I got to meet them I didn't remember them

It's been so long Yeah But it was nice to have that reunion Yeah exactly Yeah And did your parents Still have family in China Or had everybody relocated to Vietnam

My mom's family is in Hong Kong Okay gotcha All her She was born in Hong Kong So a lot of her siblings Some of them are still alive today My mom is 88 years old

Wow So that's why I feel that, you know, I'm really happy every time I get to spend another, you know, holiday season with her, you know, which is right around the corner. I really love that because as I get older, I feel, you know, I feel like, you know, that's what a gift that is to be able to spend more time with her. And is she still out in California? Oh, yeah, very vibrant. She's still laughing, still so full of lives. She loves slot machines. I mean, it must have been very special for her to have been around

and still with you for the everything, everywhere all at once moment. Yeah, you know, it was really, it was such a great feeling because I know when Temple of Doom first came out. Yeah. And when it was just playing all over the world, and that, of course, that was a huge movie. She would get calls from her friends, from her family. He says, wow, we're so proud of your son.

And then nothing happened for 40 years. And then when I won the Oscar and thanked her up on the stage, that very next day, she got all those calls from the same people again. From her family in Hong Kong. So it just, you know, and she was so happy. She called me, says, hey, so-and-so just call me. They saw you on the stage. They hurt your speech.

So that was really, that was really great. That's great. People were calling, we're like, we can't believe this is still your number. Do you ever, as an adult, have you ever traveled with her? I did. Well, the first big travel was when we did, when we were promoting Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

Okay. So the studio took us everywhere. We went to France, Germany, Australia, you know, all over Asia, Japan, you know, Taiwan, Hong Kong, everywhere. And I remember we were flying first class. And it was at a time where, you know, we rarely get to fly in a plane. So my mom would get seasick. And it was like, I was so embarrassed at the time. It was like the perfect comedy moment.

It's like the minute the plane took off, she was really, like, not feeling well, but she tried to, you know, hold it in. And then when it was time for them to serve the first meal, and the other passengers were so happy, they wanted to dig in. And it was right when she reached for the vomit bag in the seat in front of her and started doing very similar to chunk in the trunk in the, the Goonies. Oh, no. Oh, no. It was, and everybody just stared.

It was just like, it was horrible. I was so embarrassed. But of course, you know, late, I mean, we travel so, so many places she got, she got used to it. Would she sort of, was she your chaperone on all those trips? Was it just you and your mom for those? It was my, it was my mom and I and a studio teacher who, you know, she was there to help us. and also to help me keep up with my school work.

Right. Yeah, yeah. And did you, I know that you said you pretty much, you know, stayed within a one-mile radius of Chinatown in L.A., but would you ever venture out as a family? Would you ever go to the beach or would you ever go to Disney or just anywhere sort of? No, we didn't have the means to. We didn't have a car. There was no reason to get on a bus and go, you know,

because that was not on our, that was not our priority. Yeah, sure. I guess. You know, when you first get here, we were so broke because it did cost a lot of money to get us out. So by the time we did finally get here, my parents were heavily in debt. So they were working their ass off to pay off those debt. And so did my older siblings. So, and then at the same time, they were trying to learn English and try to assimilate into this new life.

It was easier for me and my two younger siblings because we got to be kids. We didn't have to worry about anything else but just go to school and learn English. But my older siblings, they were working and going to school. And in a new language. I mean, that's – yeah, yeah. And it was not until – it was not until – and again, that's why, you know, every time you hear me talk about Indiana Jones, you know, there's always a smile. And I'm always so eager to talk about it. it really did change my life.

When that movie came out, and that first check came in, it made a big difference in our family. I was able to buy a new house. So that was when we finally moved out of Chinatown. And then I bought our family a car, and that's when we actually got to, you know, go out to other places.

That's fantastic. Yeah. Did you, did your older siblings, all sort of stay, and even you're younger. Are they all still sort of California-based? Are you guys all close? No, the majority of my family is in Houston, Texas now. They all have their own business, and they're doing very well.

Who was the first person who went to Houston? Because obviously I would assume one went and they all followed. Yes, exactly. That's exactly what happened. My second sister. Because her fiancé was living in Houston at that time. so and she was madly in love and um and yeah went and joined and and be with him started her own business and became really successful and then started recruiting one of us you know one at a time

in fact I was I was recruited many many many times yeah when I when I was when I was a struggling actor and you know my family loves me and they're very supportive of me they were also very worried about me for a long time. Of course. So, yeah, so they made multiple offers. And, you know, I even took up one of the offers at one time. I think it was in my early 20s. I think it was 20 or 21.

My sister wanted to open a restaurant and asked if I'd be interested to manage it. And I had absolutely nothing to do. All I did was just like, you know, stare at the phone. Like, come on, what is it going to ring? You know, pick it up again. Is it broken? Okay, it's not broken. I can hear the dial tone.

But then, you know, that offer was like, you know, it was just one of those moment in your life. You go, what the hell am I doing? And I did, and I went up to Houston for about a year. I worked in a restaurant as the manager. I had no idea what, you know, nothing about the restaurant business. But they knew who I.

was. You know, they came and they, and they were just really happy that short round was serving their dishes, you know, and I guess, and, you know, it started out really well, but then the businesses kind of went downhill from there. And I guess in retrospect, that was a blessing, because that was when I moved back to LA. And the whole time, I, you know, when I was there, I just kept thinking, what am I doing? Is this is what I want to do for the rest of the of my life. There was that, you know, that, that, that, that, that, that, uh, that, uh, that, that, uh, that, that, that, uh, that you're very loving for a family to offer you a way out. I mean, I think we're all lucky that you were so bad at running a restaurant that went out of business.

Thank you for putting it like that, Seth. Well, you keep, you're like, yeah, something happened. It used to be a really good restaurant, then I showed up and it just went downhill and nobody knows what happened. I thought I was doing gum, there was like, you know, I didn't interview for a local newspaper and people coming, coming in and they say hey we love you in the movie and I was really happy and I said yeah if you love me come come more come on I'll be here every day hey we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors this podcast is sponsored by tovala hey boji hey sufi what level of intelligence do you want from your meal delivery service I mean I'd prefer that it's smarter

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My wife and I would go to Houston every year, at least once a year. It's a huge, huge family now. There's like 50, 60 of us. Wow. I remember one time when my mom had her 70th birthday. And we practically took up half of the restaurant. There was like more than 60 of us. And she invited some of her friends.

There was well over 200 people to celebrate her, you know, her big day. And yeah, and every year I go, you know, we would just try to get together in someone's house, you know, because, you know, it's almost impossible to fit so many of us. And we would have a good time, but also very quickly, someone, there's always someone would get in an argument with someone else. Right. Yeah, I mean, the odds with that many family members. Yeah, that's what a big family is, is, you know.

I think you have to know, like, when you turn 70, if you're lucky enough, right, to have, like, 50 people, you know, or blood relations, you have to know, like, this will be better when I'm looking at a picture a year from now than it will be on the actual night. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah. And the best part about having a big family

if you're an actor is that you can be sure your movie will at least grow a certain amount of money. But I imagine very hard to get tickets to premieres for that many family members. I imagine you have to say I can only get X amount of tickets

if everyone wants to come. Oh, Josh, you have no idea. I love... Okay, I love all my nieces and nephews. And, you know, they're like in the 30s, 30s, you know. Yeah. And first of all, I'm real, I feel really happy to be in a position to be able to invite

them to events where they don't normally get invited, you know, like premieres and, you know, like parties and stuff. But every time I say yes to one, it very quickly becomes 10 or 20. And then I have to go to my team and says, hey, do you think you can go to the studio, asked for 20 tickets and they would freak out. Yeah. You know, for example, like, you know, for Zootopia, we're having a big premiere in Shanghai, which, you know, it's a city that I love because that's where I met my wife.

And my family's flying there. They're all flying there. They're going to, they want to go to Disneyland. They want to go to the premiere. And I'm just like counting. Okay, one, two things. It's like 17. There was like 17 of them.

How am I going to be able to get 17 tickets, you know? Were you working in Shanghai when you met your wife? Yes. What was that? What were you doing there? I was working for a filmmaker named Wongkawai, and he had an office there that he wanted someone to look after, and he was trying to, you know, we were developing projects to be shot in, you know, in mainland China, and that's what I was there for.

And she was there as well. And we met, and it was pretty much love at first sight. Had she lived in the States before, or did you have to convince her to come? No, no, no. She never traveled prior to that. We met, we dated for two years, and then we got married. And at that time, it was not easy for her to get a visa to come here. So we actually have to wait a year for all the paperwork to be ready.

and then I flew back to China and I yeah I came here with her Was it culture shock for her to come here? Was it how did she take to showing up? It was more of a shock to her how big my family is. That sounds fair. You got to understand.

It's just she and her mom. That's her family. It's just she and her mom. And now she's married into family where there was like 60 people. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, I don't, I do not support the fact that you didn't tell her this until she married you.

I remember, I remember we had a little celebration when she came with the family. And the entire night, it was just everybody just dragging her trying to like talk to her separately. It's like, come on, I got the story to tell you about key. She was being pulled in different directions. And she handled it with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, you know. with a lot of grace, I love her so much. I mean, my wife loves me a great deal. Her literal nightmare would have to be listening

to 60 different people tell her a story about me. But it is tricky. Like, when you get to those big events, I'm just thinking about my wedding that was just over a year ago. And we had 130 people there, 130 people that I love. But it's hard to really get good time with each and every one of them.

Like, you just, you can't. but when you get together with 60 people, yeah, I imagine those deeper conversations are tougher to come by, but... Oh, you know, Chinese weddings are huge. Yeah. And, you know, they're not 100 people. Usually there was like 50 tables,

which is like equivalent to 500 to 600 people. And the big ones get up to like 100 tables, so you have like 1,000 people. And the majority of them, you don't even know. You know, they're like friends of your parents or friends of your grandparents, and then you just have to give face to them to invite them, and then they have to show up to give you face.

But the majority of the people there, you have no clue. You've never met before. So when my wife and I, we got married, I mean, we didn't want any of that. We just wanted a very intimate wedding. So you had her mom and 60 of your family members. It's something like that. It is funny. I remember when Alexi and I were, you know,

each of our sets of parents were asking, you know, will you please invite and giving us a list of people? And at some point I was like, you have to realize, Alexi, we're lucky. Like, in a lot of cultures, they don't even ask you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, did your parents decide? Yeah.

Your parents tell us you, this is who's coming. And then they give you a long list of people. Yeah. They're like, you're lucky. A hundred years ago, you didn't even get to pick who you married. You should be happy. That's right. That's right.

We're really doing guest list now. Zootopia, so I just want to say real quick, I'm very excited. There's a new one because I have kids and a well-made kids' movie is such a gift. It also must be so nice. Like, the amount of movies you've done that have been, like, physically taxing and, like, just, like, long hours and not knowing what it's going to look like, going into a booth and just knocking out Zootopia. This is I, I'm, you deserved an easy job like this. Oh, Seth, it was not easy.

Get out of town. It was quite the opposite, and I'll tell you why. Great. I'm very excited. And I apologize for acting. like you did not have to work hard on this. I'll take it back. Okay, so with live action, you show up,

you act with your fellow actors, you have a physical set, right? And then you know what the story is about, and there's a lot of interaction with, you know, with your fellow actors. And with animation, you show up, as we all know, in a booth by yourself. You say all your lines

without getting to hear what the other actor, right you know is how they're doing their part because as an actor for me i play off of my fellow actors my choices i the choices that i make as an actor it's dependent on the choices that they make so that i want to make sure that you know we're good scene partners but with animation is very different it's constantly evolving and i'm very new at this and i find myself you know like to get my voice a certain way i have to like clench every muscle in my body to get it a certain way to hopefully the audience can can feel the emotions I'm feeling and I would be every session I go in I'm like sweating yeah and the first couple of sessions I would be I would be very embarrassed because at the end they would come and give me a hug and I go oh no no don't hug me I'm really sweaty and then I go wait is this right am I doing it right and then I started talking and I met Patton Oswald who as we know is an incredible actor who did you know do you know do you who did, you know, Ratatouille.

And I say, hey, Pan, is this right? Like, I'm sweating. It's like, it's hard. He says, key, no, you're doing it, you're doing it the right. It's proper. You're doing it properly. That's how it is. It's a lot of fun, and then you get there for a movie like Zootopia, too.

Like, I'm so grateful to be along for the ride. But it was, it was fun and challenging as well. It'd also be nice to be at the premiere because I'm assuming for, you know, that'll be the first you lay eyes on a lot of your castmates. Yeah, I didn't even know who was in this movie until recently I saw a press release and I go, wait, McCollick-Colkin is also in this movie? That's great. You're like, I think I'm going to go see this movie.

Yeah. No, but it's fun. It's such a good movie. It's so clever. Kids will love it, but what I love about these movies is adults can enjoy it too. And you always come out with a – yeah, and you always come out like, feel like you just learn something. I love the themes in these movies. Yeah, that's really great.

And then you must have, I mean, you must have taken, had so much travel. Did your wife travel around with you during sort of the run of everything everywhere? Were you, um... Well, she worked on the movie, didn't he? Oh, yeah, she was the translator. She was a translator. She was a translator. No, she's always with me.

Everything I do, whether it's a movie or a press, she flies with me. So we had to spend a lot of time together, which is great. Yeah, and I feel, it's weird. Like, I become so dependent on her. I feel vulnerable if she's not there. And she also, she's also one of the very few that I trust wholeheartedly. She's very straightforward with me. For example, a lot of times on the first week of a set, she'll say, I'll ask her, say, hey, how am I doing?

And she was to say, you're acting. You're acting. Stop acting. You're not this character yet. I don't see it. And normally it's at the end of the week that she says, now I believe you are this character. That's great. Because she's always at the monitor watching.

It is very valuable to have that. Yeah. I always, you know, and it's hard. I always tell people, you know, when I'm on a movie set, I say, just give it to me straight. Like, how am I doing? And people are usually very reluctant to give you the truth. Yeah. And then until when you see it, you go, oh, I wish I would have done that, then it's too late.

But to have someone like my wife, to tell me from the very beginning, and then I can adjust. It's great. Well, I will tell you that at the end of every one of these episodes, Josh calls me after and says, you were a dud again. Wait, by the way, I love the songs that you sing at the end of the other. Isn't it amazing? Thank you. You're going to get a song key. Isn't it exciting?

Wait, do you do it for every guess? Yeah, you're going to get a song. Oh, I can't wait to hear it. It's so good. It's so funny. It's so funny. Thanks. And you have a good voice.

The anticipation of knowing, well, don't, if you keep being complimentary, I'm going to do your song and you're not going to like it. There was one, I got very busy, and there was one song where it looked like I was maybe not going to be able to get it done. And Seth was like, I could always throw together a song real quick. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to burn the candle at both ends and I'm going to make sure that this happens. I'm going to do this song. Oh, no, it's so creative.

The lyrics always makes me laugh out loud. I love it. And of course, Seth, I'm still waiting to be on your show. I know. I can't believe you haven't been on. This is, it's of great offense to me and we're going to figure it out. Yeah.

I'm going to make sure it happens soon. This has been fantastic. I mean, it really is like it is, you know, I mean, again, everybody said it. But that was such a special movie a few years ago. But again, you're in two of the most special movies in my life. And, like, the movies I most want to show my kids, I haven't shown them Temple of Doom yet.

They're not old enough. But it'll be very fun when that day comes. And before we let you go, Josh is going to ask you our speed round. Wait, we are at the end of the show. Well, this is, there's still time, because you'll notice these questions are going to bring up more stuff. Okay, great, great, great, okay. Here we go, speed round. You can only pick one of these.

Is your ideal vacation, relaxing, adventurous, or educational? See, I'm leading toward relaxing and educational because a great trip for me is where I'm very relaxed, but I also get to learn something. But if I were to choose one of those, I would say relaxing. Otherwise, I would need a vacation after a vacation. Yeah, good call. Do you feel like you're in line with your wife on that? Does she like the same kind of vacations as you?

Yeah. By the way, I want to ask you guys, when you go on vacation, do you guys have like an itinerary? Like, do you guys pack your day with a lot of stuff to do? We try not to pack it, but I try to have, like, a couple things to do with sort of big gaps in between them to be able to sort of decide to do things on the fly where it doesn't throw a whole sort of schedule off. How about you, Seth? Well, we have kids, and so it's it's itinerary based just because, like, they, if you leave them, if they become idle, they become more irritating. So it's just about, like, saving, we're trying to save ourselves from them

by having a very packed day. Also, they anticipate well, so if you tell them what's coming, like they're ready for it. Have you guys, how often do you go back to Shanghai? Is your mother-in-law still there? Yeah, we go back to China every year, at least once a year.

Not necessarily Shanghai, but Shenzhen. How long when you go, how long do you have to go for it to be worth it? I try to go for at least two weeks because it's a long flight. But my wife usually stays there for roughly about a month, just to spend time with her mother. She goes back like twice a year. Got it.

And now when we go, I mean, it's like we keep our schedule really, very chill. You know, there's no schedule. I mean, it's a vacation. And we just decide what we want to do the day of, yeah, there's usually no schedule. It's a lot of like just meeting with old friends, just spending quality time with family. It's all about that. Where is there a place in China that we would be surprised to hear is a great stop to make if you're there? Oh, there's so many.

Beijing is a great stop to, you know, just because of how beautiful, how grand everything is. I always love Shanghai. Hong Kong is another wonderful, wonderful place. That's one of my favorite cities on the planet. I love gold. The food is amazing. Yeah, there's a lot of great place for sightseeing. If you've never been, you should definitely put that on the bucket list.

All right, great. Back to these. What is your favorite means of transportation? Car. I like car. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? You know, I've heard you ask this question before, and that's a tough one.

It's such a great question. But it's a hard one. I'll give you that. But, yeah, it's really hard, but I was thinking about this, and I want to say Walt Disney. Oh. Because I want to see the world through his eyes. You know, he's created so many incredible characters and brought so much. much happiness to so many people, I kind of want to be a part of that and see, you know,

how he sees things. You might be able to because he froze his head, so if they ever thought out. Is that true? I think, wasn't he one of the people who froze his head? That's the rumor is that his head is frozen somewhere and they're going to, he's. They're going to bring him back? If they bring him back, we're going to let him know that you want to take this trip. But it's just going to be you and ahead.

Where I carried around like this. Hey, Walt, what do you think? I wish I wish for a different family. I think I'm not, I have to check. I think TSA is making you check the heads now. They don't carry it. If you were, if you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Oh, that's easy.

It's my wife. Yeah, I got it. I love her so much. I mean, we spent so much time together, and we still. have a lot of things to say. So that's who you want to be with if you're stranded on an island. That's great. What do you consider your hometown?

Los Angeles. If you had to, if you were the head of the Los Angeles Board of Tourism, trying to get more families to come visit Los Angeles, how would you pitch that city? Oh, we have so much going for them.

I mean, currently the Dodgers playing the World Series. Theme parks, Universal Studios, Disneyland, Hollywood Boulevard. I mean, the list just goes on and on. And, of course, you know, we have really incredible food. But I would have them first day go to Disneyland. There are a couple of parks there.

That's great. Yeah, and go check out all the palm trees. And the beach, Malibu. Yes. The list goes on and on. Yeah. I'm with you there. And Seth has our final questions here.

Key, have you been to the Grand Canyon? Yes, I have. Two times. Okay. What was the first time? How old were you? It was late. It was like in my 30s.

It's when they, again, I don't know the time. But you know when they had that skywalk? Yeah. That bridge, that horse shoe bridge. When that opened, I went. And I thought I was brave enough. to walk on it and go around. I didn't even make it past five steps.

I looked down. I look down. I go, holy shit, this is scary as hell. And I walk right back. Now, this is, I'm wondering, were you unique? Or were there other people who had maybe thought they were braver than they actually were? Or on the day you were there, were you the only person who doubled back? Double back?

No, I was not. I was one of the first group to go see it. Yeah. And there was a lot of us. And then, you know, of course, there was a lot of people who went, you know, who started walking on. And I just look at all those people on the bridge. And I go, oh, my gosh, is it going to hold?

Because it was just, you know, it just had its grand opening. And it wasn't like I was by myself. I was with a bunch of people. And I just literally walked, took five steps in. And I looked down and I can see right to the bottom of the Grand Canyon. And I, and my knees started, you know, You know, getting super weak, and I go back. But also, I love the Grand Canyon.

It's so beautiful. But one thing that I never understand is, why do people stand right at the very edge and look down? Yeah. You know, as you say, there's no railing, right? And then they always walk right up to it. And it freaks me out. My wife tried to do that when we visit.

She got pretty close, and I said, listen, don't. Please don't do it. My knees will already go in weak. And I say, if you go to the edge, I'm leaving right now. I was so afraid for her. And especially when there was like a lot of people, too. And they're just all there. Yeah.

Yeah. I was just in Ireland with my wife, and we were on this walk along these cliffs. And they were very steep cliffs and then into the water that, you know, was just pounding these waves into these rocks. And she, where she was probably was fine, but I was like, can you please just not keep going forward? And she was like, it's fine. And she's not big into heights, but she was confident with it. And I just had to walk away. I was like, I'm going. And like, had she fallen in, there would have been nothing for me to do except for jump in after her and we both perish.

I was so uncomfortable with the notion of her being that close to the edge that I just had to walk away. I hate it. I hate it. Yeah, I hate it because you never think it would happen to you until it happens to you. Yeah. Also, grand opening on that Skywalk is probably not when I would be most content to be there. Yeah. Of the- No, but, you know, if you're not afraid of heights, I mean, it's great.

Go check it out. It's really amazing. I wouldn't want to be there, like, in the first week. I'd want to know that it's been up for a year, this many thousands of people have been on it, and it is good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're glad. We're glad you're still with us. You didn't try to be a hero. This is fantastic. So, so great talking to you, Kee. What a delight. Seth, Josh, I love you guys. Thank you for having me. And, yeah, I really enjoyed our conversation.

I really hope Josh doesn't blow your song. I can't wait to hear it, Josh. Yeah, all right. Well, I'll get right on it. And congrats with Zootopia, too. Have so much fun at the premiere in Shanghai. See you soon, Key. Thank you. Bye, bye-bye. Bye-bye. That success and you would assume after Goonies and Temple

that King had found his vocation Checks came in, put some money down, moved his family out of Chinatown because he was up on the big screen But with a house and a car and his family said those movie loans became hard to get. And his family started moving to Houston. And his sister opened a restaurant said you can manage this place if you want. And he took the job a year later, they closed it down. It took he free, free.

Free attempts to leave Vienna came to L.A. In L.A. I gotta see the palms. If you haven't seen every day, yeah, every way, yeah. All at once, bring it now on Amazon. Three cheers for Key, he, he, give it up for Key Week 1. Ooh

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