Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - KERRI KENNEY-SILVER Got Stuck In A Hurricane In Jamaica

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

This week on the pod, Seth and Josh welcome Kerri Kenney-Silver! Kerri talks about growing up between New York and Connecticut, spending summers with family in Illinois, and the memorable trips that shaped her childhood. She shares stories from a Bicentennial RV adventure, a hurricane-interrupted vacation in Jamaica, visits to the infamous Action Park, and how her parents navigated a supportive divorce. Kerri also reflects on the early days of her career with The State, making very little money at MTV, and eventually moving to Los Angeles to create Viva Variety. Plus, she also discusses filming the TV show "The Four Seasons," Season 2 is out now! Watch this episode on the Family Trips YouTube or Spotify, or listen wherever you get your podcasts! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Support our sponsors: Quince Elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to https://Quince.com/trips for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. First Leaf Stop settling for wines that don't quite hit the mark. Head to https://TryFirstleaf.com/trips to sign up and you'll get fifty percent off your first box PLUS free shipping for an entire year. Avocado mattress Go to https://avocadogreenmattress.com/trips to check out their mattress and furniture sale. That’s Avocado Green Mattress dot com slash TRIPS IQ Bar Text TRIPS to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. amily Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. ------------------------- Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Wayfair, every style, every home. Hi, Bashi. Hi, Sufi. How are you? I'm good. I'm a little nervous. Yeah, you've got some stuff coming up. When's the big day?

It is on the 13th, June 13th. So it will have happened by the time this comes out. But I'm addressing the graduates of the School of Communication at Northwestern. Yeah. And, yeah, kind of a big deal. I'm very honored. It's an undertaking. Yeah.

You've got to really, like, it's a real writing of remarks. Yeah. And I kind of, like, cleared the decks. Mackenzie was back east for a little bit. So I had just sort of days where I, like, I wasn't even, you know, watching a show at night. I was just sitting at the dining room table working on this and just jamming through it. And then I made a last minute call just yesterday. We're recording this on Tuesday, but I invited mom and dad and dad are going to come.

That's wonderful. Yeah. So I called them and a half hour later they had booked flights and a hotel. So I was like, would you want to come? And they're like, yeah. And booked it. So that's wonderful. So you guys will be back.

And again, you know, we've talked about this. Not only did we go to Northwestern, but we were, because mom and dad went to Northwestern, we were born right there. Yep. So you will, it's a real, it's a real circle of life moment. Yeah, I don't know when the last time they've been back at Northwestern was. Yeah. It's, I think it's been a minute. I mean, probably now since we graduated.

Yeah. And I, yeah, and I didn't go to my graduation, so they weren't there for that. So, yeah, probably sometime my senior year. Didn't have the grades, in case you're wondering. what happened did not have the grades. I had to go take that job at Boomb Chicago. He took a job at Boom Chicago.

It's a good reason not to. That's good. That's very exciting. We had some graduations for our kids last week. Yeah. Like my daughter is not even done with preschool and she has one more year, but they still did a whole cap and gown thing. Yeah.

These schools, they can't get enough of graduations. Look, as a non-parent, I don't know if I can really, if I'm allowed to look askance at this, but every time I hear someone's having like a first grade graduation, I'm like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, no, there's your tone. There's an askanceness to your tone. Yeah. Do we need to make these kids feel that special all every year? Ash is going to middle school next year.

So it's officially what's called middle school. and there was a at his ceremony they showed for every kid baby picture first day of kindergarten picture picture from this year yeah and uh you better bet i cried when ash yeah yeah although i also turned to alex and i'm like god you really went with a thirst trap picture of ash there at the end because like you know ash be handsome and yeah like yeah like She chose a picture of him like, I don't know, like it was like a black-of-white photo where he was like looking out over the sea.

And then to Ash's credit, he was like, why did you use that one? So he wasn't. Less thirst trap in that moment. Yeah, no. Yeah, she was very, oh my God, we're doing a thing right now. Just trying to reward, as we go into the summer, like rewarding good behavior with the kids,

which is they have like, we have three mason jars with pom-pon. Like just, you know, little pom-poms. And when they do something good, you put a pom-pom in the mace jar, totally backfired to the point that I heard Alexi say to Ash yesterday. The next time you say the word pom-poms, you lose a pom-pom. Because he just, like, keeps asking about how do I get a pom-pom? Did I really lose a pom-pom?

And mostly you just realize, like, pom-pom is, like, fun to say a couple times, but to hear it all day, you just are hating it as a word. Who currently has the most pom-poms in their jar? amongst your children. Their cousin who's visiting fucking crushing them. Just a dominant

pom-pom performance from the visiting cousin. Has anyone, has Axel basically thought to maybe unscrew the jar and pour other people's pom-poms into his jar?

Great question. That once again, credit to Alexi was out in front of it, the pom-poms are different colors for each person. So Axel can only get a blue pom-pom. What if you look in his jar and you see a bunch of red ones?

They're just like, yeah, like with magic markered blue. We had our first, I know we've talked about it, had our first game of Clue that actually was played to completion. That was really exciting. Yeah, yeah. Oh, also Quircle? Do you know the game Quircle? I mean, I feel like I might own it, but I don't know if I've ever actually played it.

It's a tile game, you know, where it's basically a little bit like Domino's. But if you put six of the same, there's. six shapes and if you do six in a row that are all the same color so the reds of all the thing that's called a quirkle so you get the six points for the six and another six and I was

driving I was going somewhere to get a coffee and I got a and when I left there playing quirkle and Ash was still sleeping so Axel was playing with Lexi and Axel called me to be like dad I got four quackles in a row

I got a red quokle I got all of the diamond quicles and he's screaming. Like Axel on the phone, just scream. And then while he was on the phone with me, Ash walked into the kitchen and Axel goes, Ash, you'll never believe what happened.

And Ash goes, did you get four quercles in a row? Like, there's really something lovely when your children, like, develop that, like, a ryeness to their sense of humor is a real win. Yeah. So are they all done with school now? They're all done with school.

Yeah. school's over and yeah it's summertime um very excited they're going to camp right now yeah did they get sad at the end of a school year or they just psyched for not even a little bit not even a little bit um axel's teacher axel's second grade teacher uh who he loved a great deal is uh moving to california to teach out there and he's very he was very sad about that um and uh he kept on the last day he kind of kept going over to give her a hug. But ultimately, I think they're pretty good. They just want the summer. Yeah. Well, good luck to all the parents out there who have their children around them

for all those extra hours of the day. Yeah. And good luck, good luck on your commencement. Thank you. Address. Thank you. It's convocation. It's not the official. The commencement is the next day with Sarah Jessica Parker. SjP. Yeah. So, yeah. Well, that's great. Um, how fun with mom and dad. You'll do? I gave the commencement and they chose not to come. Wow! Did you invite him?

I probably didn't. Looking back, I probably didn't. But I was only, I think I came in, yeah, I also think I was just like day of, I went in. I think I was at a wedding the day before. Gotcha. I was glad you're making a weekend of it.

Yeah, and day before, we've got friends that live nearby and the World Cup is starting. up so we're going to go over to the Bennett's up in Wilmet. Great. And watch game one of the U.S. and hopefully they come out with the W. Sunday is the first Holland game. Yeah. Netherlands, Japan.

Very exciting time for those of you and those of us who like these World Cups. All right. I love your posha. Oh, Carrie Kinney. Oh, yeah. Just what a fantastic conversation. Yeah, we knew her originally from the state. And currently on the four seasons, and just lovely, funny.

Yeah, big fan. This one's going to go to mom and dad's head. She has nice things to say about mom and dad. That's always a bummer. It's always a bummer. With the guests, no, mom and dad. It's always, we pay for it. We pay for it down the line.

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All right. Love you, Zufi. Do we. Love you. brothers Hello Oh boy Oh my good

How do I make this big? Oh yeah I don't know if you can make it big That's yeah I can't make it big This is a bad way Oh you did look at that I mean wait you guys

If you're wondering why Josh and I are both wearing glasses It's because we haven't figured out how to make it big I've heard that about you I wasn't wondering Don't flip that Don't clip that audio out of context. Carrie, I was just, I just encountered you. I don't know if you recall, but I was at the puppet up show.

And you were doing like a staged reading the next day, I want to say. And I'm friends with that stage manager, Joe Witt, who worked with you guys. And you were there to sort of check out the space, the Montalban Theater in Los Angeles. And Joe Witt and I worked together on the Pee-Wee-Herman show years and years ago. and I had seen Susie Eddie Izards Hamlet in that theater. And he was like, you should come to puppet up. And I was so you and Thomas Lennon and all of sort of the state crew, I was too nervous to say hello. Oh, my gosh.

You guys. Oh, my gosh. That's insane to me. And I wish you had seen the reading. It was the dumbest thing ever. Can you hear you? Can you guys hear me okay? Yeah.

We hear you great. Okay, good. Krista Claire. Can you hear us? Yeah, I'm kind of a pro at this. So I don't want to brag, but I'm kind of an AV. You are worried. the whole time we hadn't been able to hear.

That's all. I just want to make sure. I listen to the podcast. And it's fine. Like, the sound is fine. But I just want to make sure this one's really good. This is, so I want to ask because you are, you were working, you finished season two of a vacation themed show. Yes.

Has it, because again, it's a big cast. So there are days, I imagine, that you have off. Does it feel like a vacation to be up there? Or is it just like a drag? This is the four seasons that Seth has talked. talking about the four seasons. Yes and no. I mean, our schedule is, you know, because it's such an ensemble show, we are all on camera most of the time.

Yeah, that's true. But the beauty is it's not one of those shows where you finish your scene and you get driven back to your trailer and you're sitting there all day waiting for your scene. We're on set all the time, all of us. And so just the locations we go to, yes, sitting there feels like vacation. Season one, when we went to Puerto Rico, they were so concerned about the weather. And I was only in one of those episodes because they wanted you to think Anne had gone away. So I basically was just sitting on a lounge chair off camera for a week, giving a thumbs up with a Mai Tai while those guys were working because they were worried if it rained.

They might have to pop me in. But yeah, so it does. The people make it feel like a vacation. Obviously, the locations make it feel like a vacation. and but it's, you know, it's work. Yeah. But it cast like that, I imagine when they're, you know, when they're turning it around or doing, you know, the technical stuff in between, I imagine the conversation is exceptional. It's just like exquisite.

It's exquisite is the most perfect word. I've been using the word delicious, which is a little creepy, but it is both exquisite and delicious. I'm sure. I obviously, I think any viewer will know these are some of the funniest people in the world. Some of the deeply kindest people I've met in show business are in your show. I totally agree. And it isn't fake. It's the real deal.

Yeah, it really is. I mean, down the line. And like people even, you know, obviously a lot of your cast members I've known for a great many years, but then you just meet somebody like Coleman Domingo and you're like, oh, my God. Where did he come from? Yeah. I keep waiting for him to slip up in the mask. to fall off and there isn't one.

He's just, he's as divine as you would hope. He is just, and also just incredible gratitude. I think, you know, an actor who's obviously been out of for a long time and now the whole world is like, we actually need you to work every day for the rest of your life because we're so late to the party on you Coleman. I think that's it and I think that's what he feels. I think that's why he's so gracious and grounded because he has been doing this for as long as we all have.

Right. We are, obviously, we are of an age where we knew you from your very first job. Or at least your first TV job was the state, right? Oh, I was going to say, you knew me from when I worked over at the mansion clam house. Yes. And we have some feedback. We have some feedback on the clams. I'm really sorry about that.

Wait, where was the mansion clam house? In Westport, Connecticut. Okay, got you. And I worked a couple of places. I worked the Red Barn restaurant. My first day I dropped a rack of chickens. They were dead. They were cooked.

Yeah. That's good. So they couldn't escape. No, no, no. They didn't escape, but they still were not psyched about me. Yeah, right, right. So I, restaurant work, thank God, comedy worked out because restaurant work wasn't great for me.

I did try, though. Yeah. Did you have to, was your group, your cohort that came to be the state? Were you guys also, like, working? New York restaurant jobs, or did you not have to do that in the same way? Let me put it this way. We made on our show on MTV, there were 11 of us. We made $100 less than we would have made on unemployment at the time. So, yes, we had other jobs. I continued to work my job where I worked at a catering company,

but I worked in the bakery part, decorating cookies. I continued to work there through Viva variety. So, yeah. And then also I was doing the band at the same time. So that's why I do a lot of napping now. Because I worked really hard back then. It's interesting because, you know, you guys were on. This is a time where even though you were an indie show, it was part of the monoculture. Like, there was a real awareness of your show.

And people must have thought you guys were so wealthy based on the fact that they could see you on TV. And that must have been a very awkward years where you hope. to explain actually worse than not having a job. I don't think I ever explained it. I felt rich no matter what we had because we had something and we had a TV show who gets that the day they graduate college. It's absurd. God bless MTV for that. Is that really?

So it was that fast. It was that fast because while we were at NYU, we did a show, which was also John Stewart's first show called You Wrote It You Watch it. And so we were the sort of cast to that show. People would write in letters and we would act them out. And John was the host of that. So that was while we were at NYU. And then as soon as we graduated, they gave us our own show. And we, I mean, they had to teach us like, this is a mark.

This is where you stand. This is, you know, we're going to count down and action. I mean, it's not a lot to learn. But they had to teach us how to do television while we were. we were doing our first TV show. I mean, that happened for me at SNL, but I was surrounded by other people who knew television, so you could also kind of learn by watching.

But it's really funny that there were 11 of you with no experience at all. No experience. But that scares me more, Seth, to hear, I mean, to be in that arena with people that know what they're doing, in a way I could fade into the background of people who didn't know what they were doing. I guess that's a good point.

I feel like the one, I wouldn't say that I could observe and actually be as good as the people are doing it, but I was very good at following rules. So I think I at least learn that very quickly. I'm a rules follower too. Yes. Did you, and so the 11 of you, all of you were NYU?

We all were NYU originally. And then David Wayne and Michael Schoelter went to Brown. They transferred to Brown. And that was like a big upheaval. You can't, you know, you can't leave the group. What's going to happen to the group? We'll never work again. And we hadn't even begun yet.

Yeah. It is fun, but, like, I mean, Josh and I were in, you know, improv troops and sketch comedy groups. It is very funny looking back at, like, all the drama that you thought was, you know, the end of it all. Oh, there was so. Oh, that was so nice. So many chairs were thrown, so much screaming, so much crying. We would do check-ins where we would sit in a circle. We were all theater film students.

We'd sit in a circle and a moat. And, yeah, it was deadly serious. Yeah. Well, your emotions are so close to the surface. I feel like the swings that you have at 18 are just so different than what they are now in terms of how the level of passion and the level of insult that can sort of throw you one way or the other. It's just like it's, yeah, I don't know. I love that. I love that for you, Josh, but speak for yourself because I'm going for menopause. Well, that's, on the pirate ship at the amusement park, you've swung to the other side now. I once very angrily threw a, I remember throwing like a subway sandwich in a parking garage. I was so mad at one of my improv team members. And then like when I calmed down, one of the other people had gone over and sort of put the sandwich back together and came over and was like, hey man, do you want it?

I'm like, I got mad all over again that they thought I wanted to. And yes, you did want it. I mean, I will say, like, the $5 foot long was probably my whole week's allowance on food. Yes, and I'll eat that, Sammy. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from avocado mattress. Hey, Pashi. Hey, Sufi.

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He still is a big voiceover guy. He's the Cocoa Puff's Bird and Count Chocula, and he was Lion O Lord of the Thundercats, which was a big one for our generation. So immediately, in radio, he started getting drive-time jobs, which shot us around the country when I was little. We landed in New York when I was almost four. And so we lived in Manhattan for a little bit, and then we moved out to Connecticut, to Westport, Connecticut. And then my parents got divorced soon after that. My dad was in Manhattan, so I split my time. And then summers, we would go to Illinois most of the time with, or I would go, to be with my grandparents, my aunts and uncles and everybody there.

And that was dad's side or mom's side? That was dad's side. Mom didn't have a big side. Okay. Yeah. So dad's side, and I'm still very close with all of them today. Oh, just the best, the best. I mean, I'm so lucky, beyond lucky, to have gotten to grow up in the same.

the sort of, you know, J. Crew catalog that was Westport, Connecticut, and then the West Village in New York City in the 70s and 80s. And then summers in Illinois with like running around barefoot in corn cribs and hanging out in the back of pickup trucks watching drive-in movies. I mean, it's just like, you couldn't, to me, write a better childhood. Yeah. Where is, so was that sort of Southern Illinois? Where were you? Yeah. It's called Peking.

I'm sure you know it. It's, um, they thought it was on the latitudinal line of Peking China when they named it. It is not. But is it spelled the same or is there no G? P-E-K-I-N. Right. And it's, um, it's claim to fame is that it's like, um, half an hour from Peoria. Okay.

That'll do it. So, yeah, you get it. Yeah. Well, they were, they, no wonder they were trying to come up with, like, something cool, like being on the same latitude, to speak. So you had how many, it was your grandparents, but you had, there were other uncles, aunts, cousins? All of them. All of them. I technically grew up an only child. My father remarried and had two kids that I'm very close with today, but we're a different generation. So my growing up years was as an only child,

then I was a lonely, weird, you know, soon-to-be sketch comedian who would spend a lot of time just sort of like talking to myself in the mirror and, you know, putting on weird clothes and doing accents by myself. And so the summers were such a delight going to Illinois because, you know, I had immediate, I just fell into the, into the rat pack of kids. immediately we were, you know, running around together playing softball, swimming, just like the catching lightning bugs, that sort of classic summer, you know, you come in when the porch light goes on. So this was something you eagerly looked forward to all year in Westport. Loved it. And then in the other times, I would go, my dad, when my, well, before my parents got

divorced, we did a couple of trips together that I remember. I'm sure we did more than this. But the two that I remember, and it's a miracle that I did not clock, the divorce was on its way. But the first one was that we went to Jamaica. And, of course, my mom bought, like, little outfits. You know, we were all, we were going to be, you know, matching for dinner, and it was going to be all cute. The day we got there, a huge hurricane came. And we spent the entire vacation in the lobby of the hotel because all the power had gone out.

And so for about four days, we ate out of cans in the lobby with everyone else in this high-rise hotel until we could fly home. But in memory, it was kind of fun. But when I came back, you can't come back from a spring break without a tan at that age. So I laid under my mom's sun lamp. And she was at work because it wasn't allowed. And I took what I found in her drawer were these like sticky pads. And I was like, oh, this is perfect. I'll cut these out and I'll put them on my eyes.

So I don't burn my eyes. And I stuck them. And then about 30 seconds, my face was on fire because they were wart remover pads. So I went back to school with no tan having spent a week in a lobby, eating out of the can and playing Monopoly by Candleite with like soars on my eyelids. It's really something. That's rough. Did you, four days in the lobby and, like, looking back, you're like, oh, yeah, my parents weren't super getting along.

I would say even a couple that loved each other very much, that's going to test it. It's rough. Although, then I didn't clock it at all. I didn't clock it really, I think, until our bicentennial camper trip that we did. Listen, any RV trip is going to try even the greatest marriage. Yeah. And we went, we did the bicentennial camper trip. centennial trip, the 1976 trip. So many of my, did you guys do a bicentennial trip?

No, I mean, I was, I was born in 76. Okay. So you would, but I feel like I would have seen you, you know, at the Liberty Bell, because we all were there. We were, so our mom is sort of from Marblehead, Massachusetts. And so there was a, I do remember like a lot of colonial, you know, buntings up and about. Yeah, there was a lot of hoop. Yeah. There was a lot of, yeah. law about it. Yeah, yeah. Let's put it this way. Everybody was talking about it.

Everyone. I'm going to say something, not to get political. I feel like there's a lot less buzz about the 250. They're trying. They're trying. But it's not happening. It's not catching. Much bunting.

No buzz, no bunting. I don't know if there's going to be a quarter for this one. Well, that trip ended pretty soon after, in my memory, the divorce was announced, which in hindsight is hilarious, because all I have from it is. a photo of me standing next to what looks like the actual Ben Franklin, and I look miserable. Do you remember, so you went to Philadelphia? You, like, where was the RV trip? Where did you, what were your ports of call? We went to see the Liberty Bell. We went to Virginia. We went to D.C. And I really, I don't know if this is something for a psychiatrist or a therapist to dig into,

but my memories are really based on photographs at that age. So I can tell you, for certain, And the only thing that I know that happened was that I met Ben Franklin. And I have proof. I have the proof. Gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha. And he, when, like, he was watching your parents when they took the picture of the two of you and he leaned over and whispered like, I don't think this is going to last kid.

No. He had an affair with my mom. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. But he's been. She told your father, like, I discovered electricity last night. Yeah.

And how sick of her? I mean, I love the woman. On a trip. On a trip? On the bicentennial with all the bunting about. It wasn't her birthday. It was the nations. You, where in the West Village were you guys before you moved to Westmore?

Well, my stepmom had an apartment there in the West Village. And my dad moved in there first, or that's where we would visit. And then eventually the two of them got an apartment up on the... the Upper East Side, which at the time was, it sounds really fancy, it was nowhere, nowhere land. It was like, you know, just a bunch, it was German town, just a bunch of old people. But it was great because, one bar. To put it into cell phone coverage terms, so one bar. There you go.

It was a one bar location. Even before bars, it was one bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And but it was. What were the cross streets of the West Village? Well, listen, it's so funny that you say this. And I'm going to look it up as we're talking because I couldn't remember, and I was just there, a friend of mine just moved there. And is this exciting?

Yeah. Yeah. We can cut all this out, right? For somebody who's... Seth has lived sort of West Village. West Village for 25 years. Stop it. Well, I had to text my dad to see where, what street it was because I couldn't remember...

This is a good time to say that what we have in common is... Here we go. To Charles Street. Oh, I used to live on Charles in Washington. Now I've got to see what two Charles is. That was my first New York City apartment. That's incredible. This is for an audio format like a podcast, it's great when people are just looking at maps that the listener can't see.

We have something in common, which we're really happy about, is we all have dad's name Larry. Believe me. Believe me, I'm a, let's first, first of all, let me just first of all, let me just say. We have two issues today. One is which I'm a super fan of this podcast and two is which I've had way too much coffee for this time of day. So I am well aware that we both have Larry's and I get excited every time and I so desperately want to go to dinner with your parents. When I heard that, who was it, Marty ran into him? Who ran into them? Oh, Amy Poehler ran into them at a restaurant. Or, oh, Steve Carell. I was so jealous. I was like, Like, I want to run into them.

They're great. To me, I think Larry is the perfect, especially for people of our era. It seems strange to me that not everyone has a dad named Larry. And by the way, I don't know if I've ever heard this part about it. Born a Larry, born a Lawrence. Born a Lawrence. But I don't think ever call, he's Lawrence Myers, Jr. And his dad was, so his dad was also Larry, but his father went by leash.

which I don't know that anyone has ever gone by. But his father was Laish and then, yeah, he's always been Lair or Larry. Well, it sits in with Pashi and Sufi. Yeah, Leish. Yeah, yeah. My dad was always a Larry that was on his little birth certificate. I just love that they were like, what does this little baby look like? Larry.

Yeah. That's wonderful. And my mom was Sharon, a name you don't hear anymore either. I mean, it is perfect that era. Perfect era. To be born to a Larry and Sharon that close to the bicentennial is a true American story. If somebody's really trying to test someone's age, you just ask what their parents' names are and they say it real quick. And you go, yeah, 1970.

Yeah. So would your dad come when you would go to Southern Illinois or was he working and he would just sort of send you off? No, they would come. Like my mom and I would usually drive across country to get there or halfway across the country. to get there. And my mom was absolutely gorgeous. She looked like Terry Gar. She'd wear these little sundresses, and we would drive in her Buick over to Illinois, to her, to my dad's family. And she'd spend a little time with us, and sometimes my dad would fly out. But on our way, my mom had a CB radio. Oh, my God. And it was, I mean, we were essentially carried by these big rigs.

They would take such good care of us, these guys. We never paid for a meal at, a truck stop. It really was wholesome and adorable, and I learned some of the lingo, and you know, that's how we would know if traffic is up ahead or they'd put us in the cradle, they'd call it. Now it sounds creepy in hindsight, but we would be the car in the middle of two trucks so that we could sort of, you know, be escorted, you know, along the whatever freeway. Did she, was that the reason you would have a CB radio back in the day? just for the purposes of communicating and making your drive a little bit easier?

Seth, I've never thought of the answer to that question. I've never questioned it. I've never questioned it. Because this is now, for our younger listeners, this was not common to have a CB radio and a Buick. And by the way, I didn't know that either because I just assumed everyone had a CB radio in a Buick and an eight-track tape player filled with Kenny Rogers.

Yeah, that seems like a pretty good drive. It was a great drive. Did your mom have, like, Like, did your mother have a call sign or did she? She did. It was Super Skirt. No wonder you guys didn't pay for a meal. By the way, my mom was the most like deliciously persnickety put together sort of church lady.

So this is all sort of like, you know, really sweet. Would you, would you ever get on the radio? Would you ever get the controls or was it Super Skirt or nobody? I do. Super skirt or bust. Yeah. A great new band name. I don't recall.

I assume so. I assume so. Yeah. I mean, I was a budding basic cable minor celebrity, so. This seems, I mean, you know, obviously being a child of divorce, never easy, but it seems like if your mom's willing to drive you there and hang out there for a couple days, like maybe a pretty decent split in the end? Very decent. very decent. They were so wonderful to each other and about one another. I only ever heard, you know, if I complained about one or the other, I only ever heard, you know, your mother

loves you very much, your father loves you very much. They were really superheroes in that area. That's really great. Yeah. I'm really lucky about that. Yeah. What was the gap between you and your half siblings? My half sister was born when I was in high school. My half brother was born when I graduated high school. So I was more than, I was more like an aunt to them when they were little and now were siblings. You know, they're grown people with children. Did they, was there a period of time where the life you were leading was very cool to them? Oh, for sure. My, my half-sister, oh, God, they're so, they're the sweetest people in the world. And my half-sister, when she was little, she would come and stay

with me at my apartment in New York. And I remember one time I had just gotten back from doing the show bus stop in in um in um Amsterdam at the Amsterdam theater festival and she and yes I know I like you watch our eyes get real big you're like slow down guys but um but it was the experimental theater version of bus stop so my character was sort of I played it almost like Courtney love if she would you know Marilyn Monroe were alive today like what would she'd be like. And so my suitcase was filled with, um, like sort of S&M style wardrobe for the show. And when I got back, my sister came to visit me in the city and opened up the suitcase. And I remember I was in the bathroom. I came out and she, this little like four or five year old

had put on some of these sort of harnesses and things. Um, she's, she was fully clothed, To be clear, she put them on over top, and I have a great picture of that somewhere, which I'll use to embarrass her at some point in her life. I'm just waiting for the right moment. Of course. You got to, yeah, wait for the right time. Yeah. What year was that that you went over to Amsterdam for?

Isn't that a good question that I knew you were going to ask? So it had to be, it had to be 91 because it was the year before I graduated NYU. Yeah. Oh, my God. You went over, you were doing experimental theater before. you were even out of college? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that was part of my, it was part of my program.

Right, but just to do it overseas is so exciting. I know. I know. I can't believe we got to do that. Yeah, I learned so much over there. That whole program, the experimental theater wing was incredible. When did you, you met Thomas Lennon before NYU, correct? Yeah, Tom and I met at, it's called Cherubs.

It's a program. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At Northwestern, a summer program for high school. Oh, my gosh. Just keeps this keeps looping back to us. So, so, so I met at Cherubs.

We met at Cherubs in, oh gosh, what summer would that have been? 87? Yeah. So wait, hold on. Is this something that I missed? You guys were Cherubs? No, but we went to Northwestern. Oh, you went to a, well, let me tell you this.

We would have known each other a long time ago. But when Tom Lennon and I met at Cherubs, we said, we're going to be best friends forever. We're going to work together forever. We're going to do theater in Chicago forever. We're going to apply to Northwestern and then NYU as a backup school. And neither one of us got into Northwestern. So, oh, I wasn't smart enough. But our parents met at Northwestern.

So maybe we had that. That helped us a little bit. Well, not necessarily. We don't know that. I can tell. I can tell you're smart. I think when they, I will say, when it's a coin flip, they choose the children of a Larry who went there. Right. Well, I had half of that going for me.

You, I will say my experience with cherubs is because a fair amount of cherubs do end up going to Northwestern, and you would show up and the ones who had been cherubs acted like they owned the place. I grimmest. A summer there, but it did seem like an incredible. And so was that the, that must have been the summer between your junior and senior year of high school? That's correct. Yeah, and I grimaced when you started to say the cherubs that came in for the, because I can only imagine the confidence that program gave us was, it was, I mean, really, if you, we must have been insufferable when we came back.

But I will say for a parent, what a reminder that you send your kids to a program that's going to bring out their confidence. Like maybe it makes them a little irritating to their peers, but it's just so great. I mean, it must have been so exciting for your parents when you came home from there. One would think, but what actually happened, was my father came to pick me up and then we drove to see the family in Illinois, of course, because we were there. And he came to pick me up thinking, I'm just picking up my daughter from camp. We're going to throw the stuff in the car. I'll hear a couple stories and then we'll go to

his dads. But what happened was we were so theater kiddie and so dramatic that everyone was crying as if we had all just died. And we expressed it physically, you're going to throw up in your mouth a little bit, by putting band-aids on our faces to show the pain that we had to now leave one another because the program was over. So when my dad arrived, he was like, what the hell did I pay for? Is this some, he literally, he was like, is this a cult? Why are adults crying that you're leaving. This is something is off. And it was. It was that I was for sure an actress. That's the best part. I mean, again, if they wanted to send you to theater camp, they should have. They sent you to experimental theater. Your kids are going to come back with band-aids on their

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behavior. And I'm grateful for that time, although I'm sad for that girl at the time because I really wanted a friend. I'll never forget when my dad took me to Puerto Rico for one spring break. And it was just he and I, and we always had a good time. But at a certain age, you start wanting to have a friend too. And there was this girl on the beach that looked about my age. And we could tell that she was a local. and my dad said, go over to her and say hello.

And I was like, I don't know how, I don't know how to speak Spanish. And he's like, you just say, oh la, just say, oh la. And we'll go from there and probably she speaks English. We must have spent seven hours on that beach as I sort of got closer and closer to her playing with my little sand stuff and practicing it. Ola, Ola, Ola. I mean, it sounds a little sad and psych. But I never got up the courage. I never got up the courage to say hello, to say Ola.

Yes, it's very sweet. And I imagine that as a parent, it's such a tricky thing as far as how much you can push. Because ultimately, you're the one who has to say Ola. Ultimately, you're the one who has to say Ola is such a great, that's such a great way to explain parenthood. Yeah. You can only teach him to Ola. I think my dad was napping, in fairness. God bless him.

He woke up seven hours later and said, what? She's still here. We had some amazing trips, my dad and I, because, I mean, you know, he's a single dad just trying, you know, my mom used to take care of the details. So when my dad was the one taking me on spring break trips, it was, you know, he wanted to make it the best thing ever. But we had many times, like we would go to Action Park a lot. I don't know if you know about Action Park.

Where is Action Park? It's, I believe upstate New York, but it's a, there was a documentary that came out recently. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. It's called Class Action Park. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you would go there to get severely hurt. So I would come back from there just like road rash, bruised, having had the best time of my life, sunburned, and you just knew, oh, you guys went to Action Park and had a blast, by the way.

Yeah. Would your dad go on rides and things at Action Park? Was he down to clown? Dad is always down to clown. I think he still would be down to clown at Action Park except for his trick hip. Gotcha. If you don't got one, they'll give you one, but if you got one.

I took my kids to, which is great. Like just one of those local summer Memorial Day weekend fairs with like the traveling rides. You know, they're there for a weekend and they pick up and go somewhere else on the East Coast. And my daughter, who's four, like, went on this little drag and roller coaster, smallest thing in the world.

She got off. I was like, how was it? She goes, I kept banging my head. I'm like, don't be dramatic. And then the next day, just like a crazy golf ball size bruised. So I was like, is that from? She goes, yeah, I told you.

I was banging my head. I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Doesn't that just feel the worst? I have so many parenting moments like that where you're like, come on. And then the next day, they're limping. And doctor's like, why didn't you?

Oh, my God. Poor little thing. And she's going to remember that forever, by the way. That's the only thing she'll remember from that trip. And then, right. And then when doctors are like, and so you did nothing? Yes. Looking back, that was the error.

What, how old is your child now? 20. He's going to be 21 this summer. I know I can't. Oh, my God. I love I say that like, you guys know him and you're like, oh, I can't believe he got so old. He's 20 already. What?

I just heard he was 19. Well, he's also six. four, which sort of adds to the drama of it all. Yeah. Yeah. Every time he comes, like, walks across around the corner, I'm like, Jesus Christ. I mean, you're, I mean, so you're tall. Is your husband tall as well, or is he got, is he a tall jeans?

I'm six, seven, and my husband is seven foot nine. So, yeah, our son is small for, for our family. Oh, so it's actually. Yeah. No, no. He just feels shame all the time. When I'm shocked, it's at how short he is. How did this happen?

You must trip over him like just constantly. He is like one of those mini dachshunds, but he'll be back in college soon. What would he say was the greatest family trip you guys ever took? I would say we had, oh, I hate that I had to put a D at the end of have a cabin in northern California in a town called Happy Camp California, like almost Oregon border. And we didn't own it because you couldn't. own it, but we had the caretaking rights to a historical cabin up there. And we have the, we still have the mineral rights to the property. So we do gold mining up there, jade mining on this beautiful river. I mean, it looked, you have to use coordinates to get in. And it looks like the Garden of Eden for real. I mean, the water is jade color. It's, it's those trips, you know, just fully, you know, carrying a rifle to go. go to the outhouse because you might encounter a bear, you know, or a crackhead, was they, those were, I mean, I don't know, it's interesting though, would he say that?

Probably not. He'd probably say Lego Land, where we would spend $9,000 for him to sit in a room and build a car out of Legos that he would race against someone else. And then it was time to go home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we just went to, I took my oldest.

Boston, he's 10. And someone had told him there was a Lego store in Boston. That's all he was like, so how far away is the Lego store? I'm like, dude, we live in New York. It's a Lego store there. We're going to see, we're here for American history. Yeah, but this Boston Lego store, tell me more about it. And I'm like, they got the same Legos. They got the same Legos. This, how, uh, did you have you, did you ever encounter a bear? Were you ever carrying a rifle and encountered a bear. No, but I was carrying a rifle and encountered a pickup truck full of gentlemen who had, who were sitting at our camp when we got back from a hike. Oh, creepy. And that's about as exciting as the story gets, because as we walked up,

they were like, hey, it was totally fine. But the, but the lead in is really exciting. Yeah, yeah. No, it's like, it's the beginning of a, of a movie. And then it falls, it falls apart immediately. Right. There's no sequel to this movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, it barely makes it past the opening credits. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. You want a schlitz? I love this. Hey, we love this date. Hey, we see some basic cable. When your mom was your Girl Scout leader, would that, would you go on just like little outings or would you go on weekends away, sort of cabins on the East Coast? Yeah, we would do, we would do, well, my mom and I would camp. My mom and I would go. to like little weekend camps up the Appalachian Trail, like just little camping.

She was a badass, though. But she would bring like, you know, her Virginia Slims and her iced tea in a tub and toilet paper. So we were prepared. It was nice camping. My mom was very good at that. And then for Girl Scouts, we would just do, yeah, it was like cabins. I don't think we ever did tents. If we did tents, it was outside the cabin.

Not a big deal. We had these things that we would make, which now in hindsight sounds so 1950s girl camping. We would make sit-upons, which were newspaper that you would cover in wallpaper, and then you would stitch it together with yarn, and you'd carry it like a bag. And then when you had to sit down, you would sit upon it so you didn't get your Girl Scout uniform dirty. It sounds like I was raised in the 20s. Where's your sit-upon, honey? And we would eat Bach? And we would eat Eagles.

It was before that you even had to give anything a clever name. You just called it what it was. Just was a sit-upon. There was no, there were so few things you could just call it a lean-to. Yeah, that's exactly right. Call it what it is. Call it what it is. Did you know that you, I mean, obviously now we know that you tried to go to Northwest.

first, but were you happy to end up back in Manhattan for college? Very happy. Ultimately. I would imagine immediately. I think I was really honestly scared at the idea of moving away and going to Northwestern anyway. I know I would have made the best of it, but being that close to my parents was amazing. You know, my dad at that point was now in Connecticut as well. So it was kind of the perfect distance. I could hop on a Metro North and be at my dad or mom's house in 45 minutes.

Yeah, that's nice. That's really great. And then how, when have you, you're out west now? Yeah, I live in Malibu. How many years has it been? Well, I've lived in this house for 22 years and 23 years. But I've been in L.A. since 98. Gotcha.

98. I moved out here with Tom Lennon, Ben Grant, and Michael Black because we were doing Viva Variety. And we were about to do another season. but we all wanted to move here. So we said, let's move the show there and then we can move together, which was really such a dream. And we lived at the Oak Woods, you know.

Fantastic. Yeah. Did, when you were at the Oak Woods, how do you remember? The Oak Woods were furnished? Oh, furnished. Yes. Furnished with this, like,

sort of hotel industrial furniture. But I remember how excited we were when we each got to our rooms. We were yelling down the hall to one another. They gave us place. We have plates. Everyone got so excited. You get to use the placemats. There's like a table setting. There was a plate, a salad plate. We had salad forks. I mean, this was some grown-up stuff. That was when people over here you're talking like that, they're like, I don't think the state paid these guys that money. Well, that's the beauty of it. That's the beauty of it. I will say, doing sketch really created, and I find this for most people, I think you could probably relate you guys that having started in this sketch world,

I have zero ego about anything. I also am a team player. I know when to shut up. I know when to jump in. I know, oh, this is not my area or they need my help here. And if somebody says, this isn't working, I'm like, great, you know, tell me. I, whatever you say, sketch sort of, it's like a boot camp for, for that, especially when it's you and 11 other people or 10 other people. So, you know, I think I did kind of, that mentality has served me very well, I believe. Yeah. And the money part two, to be honest with you. I mean, my lawyer would kill me for saying this.

But the truth is, every time I get paid a sort of real wage on television, I'm like, what? He's like, honestly, it's not that great. I'm like, I mean, I remember when we got our first paycheck from the state and I went and bought my mom a set of dishes, which, by the way, no one wants a set of dishes. She had dishes. She had dishes. She was somebody else. Yeah.

Yeah. But I wanted to get her something big and heavy in a box that was like grown up. So I went to pottery barn and I bought her some terracotta dishes. Does she still have them? She's passed away. Oh, she's bad. And she had gotten rid of the dishes long before, which is why we went no contact. I went no contact.

but I've heard that she's passed. And you felt nothing. You felt nothing because of the plates. And I'm still searching for the dishes. I have going on Dr. Phil. This is great. If you've seen them. Yeah.

If you've seen a box of plates. That's why I'm doing this podcast. It's not about four seasons. I am. I will find these plates before I die. Oh my God. I really hope you do. Did, uh, wait.

Oh, I. You said that about your business manager. It's so true, like when people are, I think people are shocked when they find out, like, everybody in showbiz has an agent who, like, takes a percentage. And they're always like, what, and they're like, how do you, that doesn't make any sense. I'm like, here's the thing. I would always say yes to the first offer anyone ever gave me. A million percent.

If you came up to me on the street and offered me something, I'd be like, okay, is it. Yes. Do you want me to wear this? I'm like, I need, I need one person who. who values me 11% more than I value myself, and it's worth it. I said to 11% more. I said to someone in front of my lawyer, I would do four seasons for the rest of my life. In fact, I would pay them to do it.

And he said, he pulled me and said, please don't ever say that out loud again. Really, really hard. That's what the unions for. Yeah, yeah, the minimums. They're called the Carrie Kenny minimums. That's right. For a reason. This has been absolutely delightful.

I'm so excited for another season of the four seasons and just seeing the most wonderful people on screen together. And the next time I encounter you in real life, I'm just going to say hello. I'm going to say, oh, I'm going to say, oh. But then I'll start crying and everything will get weird. There she is. Do you, you're a very nice person.

Josh and I are nice people. Do you resent how nice a person Will Forte is because it then makes you feel like a little bit of a bad person? I feel like a monster around Will Forte. Also, like, every weekend, he would run off and do a charity on an airplane. He'd fly on an airplane to go do a charity, and he has two little kids. And we're the same age. So I had zero excuse, but I was like, I have to learn my lines.

He would show up. He knew every line. He had just, you know, I'm looking on Instagram. I'm like, wait, yesterday you were in Dallas dancing around to the Bee Gees? Like, what is happening? That's the other thing about Forte. He doesn't do a charity event where he just shows up or even just like introduces somebody. It's always like a full carnival performance.

He's got costumes. When we're sitting, you know, in between when they're doing different setups on four seasons, he's mumbling to himself. I'm like, oh, you're learning lines. Do you want me to help? He's like, no, I'm learning this new Chapel Rhone song that I'm going to sing this weekend in Poughkeepsie. I'm like, what? Yeah.

I don't have. I just, I guess I think I think I, got really tired real early. I did a lot. I've done a lot. So back off. What I'm saying is back off, Seth. Well, no, back off Will Forte.

You can slow it down a little bit for the rest of us. Yeah. Really. I don't know that he sleeps. I imagine if you saw Will Forte sleeping, you would think that his eyes might just pop open and he would just go, hello. That was a very good Will Forte, by the way. Yeah.

I've heard Seth doing Will Forte's for several years now, so I've learned everything. Forte does not like my Forte. Well, hello. Hello, friend. How can he not hear that? When he does, sometimes he's like, your impression to me sounds like this, and then he does it and he sounds the same to me. I'm like, you're just literally just talking like yourself.

All right, it's time for the speed round, Carrie, and Josh is going to kick us off. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? I will say, currently relax. Yes, very good. What is your favorite means of transportation? I love them all. You love them all. I thought you said you love. I do, I do. I love the mall. She's going to pick one, though. I am going to pick one. And you know, this is going to sound real crazy guys. Train.

Yeah, no. Train's one of our most popular answers. Is it? Okay. Everyone. Yeah. Okay. I thought initially, I thought you said, I love a mall. And I was like, well, a mall is not a means of transportation. Been to the Mall of America. That's a lot. That's true. The Mall of America is basically a way to. Yeah. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?

The royal family. Great. I just want to be like, I want to be in the Cotswolds. Like, I don't even know what that is. But playing that game with the stick. Like croquet? Yeah, I have a lot to learn. But I'm going to be.

Yeah. Would give yourself like a week to learn the lingo. Yeah, I'll get the encyclopedia and read all about it. You're going to be like, they were like, we'd love you to come to the Cotswalt. You're like, great, I'll be there right away. Where, now where is that? Exactly. What is that stick game again?

Please, what is the stick game? Will we be doing stick? Do I bring my own stick? If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? I think it's my son. And I love my husband very much. reason is my son is like a real MacGyver and he's an engineering student

so he would be able to make like a coconut phone and we could call him. Yeah. Yeah. It's a you're choosing it. You're choosing, you're choosing, you're putting your safety first by choosing him. I'm putting, let's be clear. I'm putting myself first and I'm putting my son in danger. Oh, there you go. That's very nice to admit that.

What is your dream destination for a family vacation? Hmm. I want to go to Japan. Yeah. That's very common. I think that might be my answer.

Yeah. I know it's your answer, Seth, because you say it all the time. Yeah, but I'm constantly in flux. I'm not just the same guy every day. I don't want to get weird, but I know our families have never met and you and I have never met in person, but do we plan it? A one-month trip to Japan together? Just see how it goes. I'm glad you said that, Carrie.

I was so in my, I also, I know we have not met in person, but I also cannot believe it. I can't believe it either. I was so hesitant to say it because I've just, my awareness of you is like I'm coming up on like 25 or more years. And I'm like, is it possible? So I felt a little bit better knowing that you've lived out on the West Coast for 25 years. Yeah, yeah. Right. But still at the same time, the same circles, it's very strange.

Well, when I'm in person like Michael Jackson did, I wear a full, I'm in disguise. Yes. So we have met. We have met but not spoken. Right. You thought it was Sia. Yeah. Oh, I met her tons of times. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that's all. We had fun. That was fun. Is Westport, Connecticut, do you consider that your hometown? Huh. That's so hard. I mean, I went to school there. But in a way, I think of New York that way, I guess because I stayed. But let's say, Westport. Okay. So if you had to get more families to come visit Westport, Connecticut, how would you sell that town? I would say it's an adorable, idyllic, East Coast, New England vibe town with lots of fun little shops.

And I'm not losing them. I'm losing the audience. I would say you should totally. go there, it's great, there's things you could do and see and be who you are. I see their bookings are just going up. I actually was going to say people who had previously booked a trip to Westport are trying to cancel. They're on the phone up.

And I work for the tourism bureau. Oh, they're going to be so mad. I was just on the cover of the Westport Lifestyle magazine and I thought, oh my gosh, I've made it. I've made it. Seth has our final questions. Carrie, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have not.

And do you want to go? Not really. Yeah. I think for tall people, it's a huge mistake. Because you guys. You just the chance of tipping? Wait, hold on. Please explain.

Well, yeah, like you get near the edge, strong wind. You don't have, you know. Also, if your tiny sun is running under your legs. Yeah, I just don't like it. I don't think tall people should go to the grand canyon. I don't think, yeah. I don't, I mean, I have. I have Google.

It's for shorties. It's for short, fat people. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. I'm too wispy. Too wispy. You're the kind of person that just goes, frisbee's over the side. If I was the new Board of Tourism for the Grand Canyon, it would be like just for shorties.

Shorties. Do you look like a spark plug? Get on over here. Get on over here. If you're a fire hydrant-shaped person, we'd love to have you on the edge. I know that the grand can. Canyon involves like some version of sports. I'm not into the sports.

It's very active. Yeah, I'm not into, not anymore. A little hike, a paved hike. A paved hike and a stick game in the Cotswolds and you're good to go. That's me. I once had a, I'm sorry, I just have to tell you one thing I just remembered. I totally forgot this. I went skydiving one time and I bought a license plate cover that said,

I'd rather be skydiving. So that is, that is, that is, that explains me perfectly. So if I ever did go to the Grand Canyon, I would leave with a license plate cover that said, I'd rather be in the Grand Canyon. It's so funny. You did it once, got a thing, and then never did it again, which really disproves the license plate. And had it for years. This has been absolutely lovely.

Cannot wait to speak to you in person. Me too. And Josh will not ice you the next time. me sees you. Yeah, come on, Josh. That is creepy. Yeah, I'll step up. I'll step up. That is creepy. This was delightful. Thank you. Love to your family. Thank you so much. Love to your Larry. Tell Larry, I said hi, and I miss him. You do the same. Okay. Thank you, guys. Bye. Thank you. Bye.

She looks like a hurricane Turned into four days in the lobby That trip was kinda lame Gotta have a tan And stickers meant for warts Was not part of the plan Mom was Virginia Slims She packed the icy and the TP

Sitapans They'd sew them up with yarn A trip just with her dad She wanted it so bad Fuck up the nerve And seven hours Better word A summer, she's for her mother