Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - LESLIE BIBB Snuck Out of the House in Key Largo, Florida

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

Leslie Bibb joins Seth and Josh on the podcast this week! She talks all about growing up in Virginia, memories of Virginia Beach vacations, her hilarious memory of ditching a boyfriend at the airport ...to accept a job in Chicago, adventures in Key Largo, taking her mom to The Grand Canyon, Graceland, and Vegas, never actually going to Disneyland, and so much more! Plus, Leslie chats about Palm Royale Season 2, out November 12, 2025 on Apple TV! ------------------------- Support our sponsors: Laundry Sauce Get up to 40% Off your entire order at https://laundrysauce.com/trips. Don’t miss their biggest sale of the year! #laundrysaucepod Quince Give and get timeless holiday staples that last this season with Quince. Go to Quince.com/TRIPS for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Mint Mobile Gift premium wireless for $15/mo. Unlimited Plans at MINTMOBILE.com/TRIPS. Limited time offer. Upfront payment of: $45 for 3-mo., $90 for 6-mo., or $180 for 12-mo. plan req’d ($15/mo. equiv.). Taxes & fees extra. Initial plan term only. 35GB may slow when network is busy. Capable device req'd. Availability, speed, & coverage varies. See mintmobile.com. ------------------------- Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. ------------------------- Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Bashi. Hi, Sufi. Well, it's happened again. I'm getting my November cold. There's no avoiding it. You sound so, I mean, you sound so sexy when you got a cold. I mean, thank you. And, you know, it's knocked out a couple of shows this week, so I only got two more to get through.
Starting point is 00:00:20 And hopefully, I mean, at this point, my colds are like kind of November to May. But I know that it's fun because I think I can track back. exactly when I got this cold, which is three nights ago, Addie was coughing a lot. And because she was coughing a lot, she wanted to sleep in our bed. And then for six hours, she just coughed into my mouth. You think that might be why?
Starting point is 00:00:46 Maybe. But I thought you wear that, like, that hostage tape, mouth tape. Yeah, I do. Some version thereof. Yeah, I've changed to a different mouth tape. But I do still tape my mouth. But I think your nose is still, you're getting coughs, you know. You're breathing through your nose, so that's where the coughs are going.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Yeah. Maybe you've got to wear nose tape as well. I don't know somehow maybe breathe through your eyeducts. It's funny, you know, obviously Alexi is very like, what's the word? Like she's always like, yeah, you want to take all these herbs, you know, homeopathic? Is that maybe one of them? You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And I was like, I think I got a cold. She's like, well, that's because you don't take any of the stuff. I'm like, she coughed in my nose. Like, I don't think elderberry syrup was like the last line of defense here between me and getting a cold. Yeah, no, I think that's right. She's the best one to sleep. I mean, I love all my kids, but she'll hold your hand when you sleep with her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Well, speaking of your kids, you sent a couple of videos through this morning because we're about to go to Pittsburgh. Yep. Long planned. Long planned, but the boys didn't know about it. and dad wanted to send them a couple terrible towels to get them sort of juiced up for the trip. And you suggested that he also maybe should invite them because they didn't know about it.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I was like, I think it'll be more fun if it comes from you. Yeah. And dad sent sort of a series of envelopes that I'm guessing. It's the best. The whole thing choked me up so much because it choked me up watching it this morning. It very much was a full.
Starting point is 00:02:28 flashback to the kind of life we had with dad where he would make these very special things. So the boys were so excited. They didn't know what it was, but it was six Manila envelopes that they had to open an order. Yeah. Also, on the shipping label, not what he wrote, but on the actual shipping label, it said to the Myers Boys. Like, that's what he entered in the address. So they were so excited. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So in Manila envelopes, number one. Ash, number two, Axel, number three, Ash, number four, Axel. So I immediately was like, oh, my God, this is, I can't believe he's done one of these things. And then also immediately frustrated because the kids were being dumb as rocks about it. We're like, first of all, Axel was like sitting on the table and he's like, there's no five. I'm like, you're sitting on five. Sit in a chair. And then Ash is like, let's both open our number ones at the same time.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I'm like, there's only one number one. There's six. Look at the table. There's six. So I'm just like, okay, calm down. This is their moment. And so envelope number one says, we like trips. And they open it up, and it's four cutouts of just our heads, you, me, mom, and dad.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Okay. And then the next one said, this is a place we go. And they open it up, and they take out a picture of Pittsburgh. But they don't know it's Pittsburgh, right? Like, I don't think a lot of kids look at, like, aerial shots of city. And immediately, no. They're like, where is this? I mean, there's like, there's a couple kids out there that do that,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and it's like a great party trick. Yeah. Like, you show, and they're like, Baltimore. Yeah, amazing. It's like, that Kalamazoo. Calamazoo is a tough pole. They know all the, yeah, they know every skyline, no matter how small. So that's, and then number three was,
Starting point is 00:04:17 but we always are missing this person. And this was a very novel choice, dad made. Hopefully not just an accident, but it was, Ash had number three and he opened it up and I'm sorry yeah it was a picture of Axel
Starting point is 00:04:32 like a silly picture of Axel and we also missed this person and so they opened it up and it's a picture of the other one so they each got the other one and now they're like really laughing and like it's like building they're like oh we're going on a trip
Starting point is 00:04:44 and then it was like will you come with us and it's a picture of the stadium and now they're They're just, like, buzzing, and it's like, and then the last one is you're going to need these, and it's a big fat envelope, and they open it up, and it's the terrible towels. Yeah. And then I'm filming it, and it sinks in, and I stopped right before.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I didn't realize that it hadn't fully something. I know when you stopped. Because I stopped, and then Axel screamed like a banshee. And then I took the second video, which is the one where he says fuck twice. Yeah. And then, yeah, Alexi tells him, we have neighbors. he goes oh fuck and then she goes we have neighbors and he goes
Starting point is 00:05:28 oh fuck it's really good but yeah it ends with they're like is this are we going to a Pittsburgh Steeler game and is this an invitation and you go yeah and then you'd stop the video yeah I shouldn't have stopped it then
Starting point is 00:05:42 but I mean that was a video what's what's real is that those boys are coming with us to Pittsburgh they're so excited yeah immediately way too high expectations as for what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Axel told me a long story about what if a ball, what if a quarterback throws a ball so bad that it goes into the stands and Axel catches it and he throws it back so good that they fire the quarterback and make him the quarterback. That would be great. Can we just go? If Aaron Rogers replacement is Axel Myers.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Amazing. I'm also very hopeful that we're talking the day of the NFL trade deadline. Okay. And there's one player that keeps turning up as a possible addition to the Steelers roster, and it's a wide receiver for the Oakland Raiders named Jacoby Myers. Oh, yeah. Spelled the same way. Yeah. I don't know if there's ever been an M-E-Y-E-R-S, certainly not in the Steelers, but there's very few other than Jacoby Myers.
Starting point is 00:06:38 There's some MIAS. There's a center named Josh Myers. Right. Wrong spelling. Yeah, but still, Josh Myers, pretty. You've got to take it. You're right. I don't know why I'm being such hard as bad. But yeah, that'd be great. I mean, if they've got jerseys in the shop, I feel like those are the ones you get. Well, I got them jerseys that I'm bringing home tonight, which I think you'll also approve of. Yeah. Because there's brothers on the team on the Steelers. Oh, yeah, the Hayward's.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So Ash got a Cam Hayward and Axel got a Connor Hayward. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And they're also, there are offense defense. So there's always a chance one of those boys is going to be out on the field. I was going to say, man, they're just like, my two sons are definitely not in the same side of the ball because you're just constantly charging into each other.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah, but it was a really special morning and it was like, it was really, it was best of Larry. Yeah. You know, because he was always so good at those things. Yeah. I mean, he used to like Christmas morning, I feel like there were always some like some runners, some like gift runners. You'd get something and you'd be like, oh, okay. But then the build that would come over a series of presents,
Starting point is 00:07:54 and then you'd sort of start to put together, oh, that thing that I didn't think much of plays into this next thing, plays into this next thing, and it all culminates into something that sort of makes your child brain just explode with joy. And he's excellent at that.
Starting point is 00:08:11 So it was very cool and very excited. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, can't wait. Can't wait. So we'll obviously be excited to report back on that. And we're very excited for you to listen to this great conversation with Leslie Bibb who...
Starting point is 00:08:25 Oh, yeah. I will say, you know, we get a little breakdown of each guest we're going to have that the producers put together for us and one of Leslie's things is like, didn't take a lot of trips and any time I see that,
Starting point is 00:08:38 I'm like, oh, are you surprised listeners that Josh is immediately like, you're dead to me? We haven't even met yet. You're dead to me? I mean, I'm sure you know listeners what the podcast is called. It's true.
Starting point is 00:08:50 But Leslie, this thing happens to her that I love it when it happens. on the show is she sort of little things get tripped off in her memory. And she remembers some great trips, some great stories. And yeah, was just... I would say maybe has better trip stories than a lot of people who showed up thinking they had good ones. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I mean, we'll, we'll ask mom and dad. They're the real arbiters of that. Yeah. Yeah. But hopefully she avoided the wrath of Larry on this one. I'm sure she did. Yeah, I think so true. Yeah. Because, you know, he'd give it.
Starting point is 00:09:24 and he taketh away, old Larry. He sends a nice little vanilla envelopes that if you don't talk about strips, you don't talk about trips, sorry. All right, let's listen. Thanks, everybody. Family trips
Starting point is 00:09:38 with the mice brothers. Family chips with the my brothers. Hello Hi, how are you? Hi, hi, you get good brother and bad brother today with our white t-shirt, black t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Oh, God, I'm in the bad brother section. Yeah, you're your teen bad brother. No, you guys are cooler. You guys are cooler. I tell you where I'm not cooler. I can put up my glasses and be the third person with glasses, but I left my cheaters at home and this is the only pair I have it. Oh, my God, please wear those. They're so good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Oh, my God. This was a real, I think this was like an airport purchase when I realized I didn't have him before a plane. Oh, my God. That was before Jackson Pollock got good. Do you? Yeah. Also, real, this is a real aunt. Everything about him screams aunt.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah, it does. Yeah. It also looks like, almost like, as we record this, Halloween's coming up, and it almost looks like a mask that you're wearing out when you wear that. Like a zero. I think this is, you know. what you say i think it's like a woman from a far side cartoon that's oh yeah they're so actually they're so bad they're actually kind of good thank you that's what uh i just realized they were blue with the white splatters really it's a very i mean for an airport they've decided not to go red like
Starting point is 00:11:12 sally jesse yeah that's true remember because they were always like they were always red like they were like we're fun we're gonna have readers are going to be cool it was like when they're trying to rebrand readers. And then we... I'm really glad that you guys, I gave you guys space to come around to loving these glasses. Leslie, I don't know if I'm right about this or not, but I feel
Starting point is 00:11:35 like we met at a kickball game in Malibu. Like years ago. I have no idea why it was going on. For a person, guys, I have to tell you part of the reason I was only a little hesitant to do
Starting point is 00:11:50 this podcast was because it's about family trips. And my memory, it's like I could hide my own Easter eggs. I'm like, the past, it's like, it's so gone. I literally was texting my sister being like, hey, what was the name? And she's like, I can't remember, which actually made me feel better because my sister Kim is like, usually like the elephant. She can remember everything. And she couldn't remember. But I do remember this. You are right. It was a kickball game in Malabojohn. It was, I used to work with this orphanage down in Tijuana, and I think it was like a charity thing. I think it was too.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It was a charity thing, and somebody said, do you want to do this kickball thing? Do you have a charity? And I was like, oh, yeah, well, let's do it for El Faro, because it was sort of this mom-and-pop charity. And we were, my friends was like the main benefactor for this orphanage down there. And so I was like, I think like we won. I think we won. I think we got like 10 grand for them or something. I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Oh, you had to win at kickball to get money for your charity? That is too. That is not fun. By the way, it's like if you do those, I did another thing. Like, remember that thing that Jane Lynch did? Maybe it was like you draw and there was. Pictionary. But it wasn't called.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Win-lose or draw? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you do like a win-lose or draw? But they asked me to do it, and it was again for charity. But the only way you won 25 grand was if you won. I'm okay with that. I just don't like when it's a sport and there's another team. You know, like a physical sport, I don't want to be kicking harder knowing that it's for orphans.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Well, I drew harder because it was for orphans. But you're not going to, like, pull a quad drawing. You know what I mean? I could get carpal tunnel, though. Oh, it's true. I did. I want to say, like, Whitney Cummings was there. Whitney Cummings was the host, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Whitney Cummings was there. And, like, I mean, just to put a date on it, Perez Hilton, I believe, was in not Paris, but Perez. Wow. Wow. That I don't remember. I, the other thing, Josh is wearing white today. I'm wearing black. And, of course, the other reason where Yinn and Yang is I'm the New Yorker and he's the L.A. person.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And I love all of his. I think I met you at with L.A. people because it's always like, was it kickball? In Malibu? For charity? I mean, this is a long time ago. This was like over like 20 plus years ago. Yeah, it was early days of being in LA. I have no idea how I sort of came there.
Starting point is 00:14:35 No. You just wandered out to Malibu and you were like, I found a random field and some people playing a hardcore game of kickball for charity. Someone invited me. I can't recall who invited me. I remember you, Whitney Cummings and Perez Hilton. And then there was a guy. I had been cast in a movie and then got fired at the table read.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And the guy who they replaced me with was there. And I got to meet him. And I was like, oh, he's a nice guy. Who was that? Who was that? I feel like his name might have also been Josh, but different last name. Do you think when you got to the table read, they were like, oh, that wasn't who we thought. When I said, Josh, I did not, I mean, that guy.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'm sure I've never heard of the movie. I've never seen the movie, so I don't feel like I missed. I didn't miss out on my Hurt Locker. I mean, what do you remember your, did they, when did they tell you? Did they tell you right after the table read or was it that night? Did you get the phone call like when you got to your car and they were like. I got a call from Greg Grunberg had like written it and I sort of knew him so, or whatever, but not that well, but he called me and he was like, hey, buddy, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:53 How quickly after, though? I mean, fairly soon after. It was like, it was, I was on Mad TV at the time and I feel like I was maybe just like pushing a little bit and the read and being sort of more sketch with it than they wanted. And it's like, well, anyone could have given me a note and I could pull it back. God forbid they give you a note and said they get like really scared. Have you ever been fired? I haven't been fired, but I remember getting a callback and going in.
Starting point is 00:16:22 It was maybe the only time I tested for like a network thing and I didn't get it. And I said to my manager, it was like, I mean, I'd love any feedback. And he goes, yeah, they just said you were really bad. I was like, oh. Well, then I actually, can I retroactively not get that feedback? Can you? It was a good memory. I was like, you know what, moving forward, I'll try to be not really bad.
Starting point is 00:16:46 That's so funny. I got fired. I went in an audition for early edition, the TV show. They were going to add a character. This is the show where, was it Kyle Chandler? Yeah, and he got the news a day in advance or something and he could read. He would get a newspaper a day in advance and then he would try to help people avoid Catastrophe, yeah, bad things.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And so they were going to add a character. her and I think she had a kid and I was like, I was like in, I was in my 20s. I think it, it, I can't remember exactly how, like, but it was like, if it had happened before popular or after popular, it might have been before popular, but I got, I went in, you know, you, back in the day, you'd, like, go to, you'd go to, like, a producers read, and then they would do, then, like, they would do a test sometimes on the same day. And you were just riding around in a car with like a Thomas guide in L.A., like trying to do like this. Auditioning for one television show where everybody worked on it was in multiple places
Starting point is 00:17:55 in a city that's hard to drive it. Yes. And so I went to producers and it was like the chances of me getting it were like slim to none because I was a little on the young side and also nobody knew who I was. And I, the producers loved it. I went to that same day, went before the next day. network and got it. And literally was supposed to go on a trip to Hawaii, came back and told my boyfriend at the time, I can't go. You're going to go by yourself. I'm going to Chicago. My life's
Starting point is 00:18:28 going to change. I'm on a T. I'm a series regular. And I pack my suitcase, throw out the bathing suits, pack like clothes for Chicago. I go to L.A.X. And I fly. And I think it was something dramatic. Like I was about to board the plane to Hawaii. And I got like my beeper And I went off and I went to a pay phone and they're like, you got the job. And I like went. Wow. Yeah. And like went home, repacked, went back to LAX the next day, flew from LAX to Chicago, landed
Starting point is 00:18:57 in Chicago and my beeper went off. And I went to a pay phone in Chicago and I called my managers and they're like, yeah, you got fired. Les Moos. And I was like, I haven't even stepped. I just stepped foot in the city. And they were like, Les Moomvez says you're not famous enough. they're casting Christy Swanson.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And I was like, and I was like, it was just like the way, you know, it's like, it was like such a high and then such a low so fast. And I remember my mom had sent me flowers and that she's like, I sent you flowers to the hotel. I wonder who gets those? And I was like, well, I'm not going to get them, mom. I'll tell you who's not going to get them. And they were like, what do you want? Do you want to go to the hotel and fly back? And I was like, no, get me out of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I flew home. And as we were flying home, the flight attendant was like doing like one of those. Remember when you just eat a lot of protein and you wouldn't like, it was like some diet, Atkins or something. Keto or something. Yeah, yeah, whatever. And she forced us to land in Las Vegas because she thought she was like having like a heart attack or something. And we landed in Las Vegas. And I was like, this day just got worse. I didn't know how. it could get worse. And I'm standing there. I remember she was like walking off waving. Like, I'm okay. I'm okay. And everyone's like, no, you got, should come off in a gurney right now. Like, you waving at us. And then I had to just- Just needed a chicken burger. That's all you needed. You needed some rice. You needed to balance it out.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I'm not saying it's fair or right, but it's very funny that a flight attendant thinks people care about how they are. Good news. I'm alive. Yeah, that was like my, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, firing was like sobering for me. I was like, oh, God, getting fired. But I think it's, you've never been fired, Seth. That's amazing. I mean, I've been, I think, well. He's like, let me think.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Or maybe I've just buried it. But I will say, like, I'm also like, I didn't get hired that much. I mean, I basically got hired twice. Like, I've been working in the same building for 25 years. That's kind of amazing, though. Yeah. So, yeah. This is, only because it's on my dad.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Look how. Look how beat up that idea is. Oh my God, that's so cool. That looks like it should be in the, like, Smithsonian. It won't even focus on your face. It won't even focus on my face from 2001. So it's holding up his beat up ID from. My ID looks, it looks the way Matthew J. Fox's photo in Back to the Future looks late in the film.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Oh, my gosh. That's how faded it is. Also, that's such a deep cut reference. Yeah. Looks a little bit like that Jesus Christ that that woman tried to, like, fix it. Oh, yeah. But yeah, they repainted it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Oh, my gosh. They did a bad job. Another deep cut reference. The deeper than back to the future. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from laundry sauce. Say Pashi.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Hey, Sufi. Holidays are coming up. Oh, yeah, they are. Celebrations, gatherings, cozy nights, and the chaos. There's also chaos, Posh. Yeah, that's part of it. Comes with the season. You know, who doesn't have time off during the holidays?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Who that? Laundry. Still got to do it. Yeah. It's true. I mean, whether you're hosting family, heading out to parties or just trying to keep up with the holiday rush. Laundry don't quit, Sufi.
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Starting point is 00:23:43 Hey Pashi. Yes, Ufi. How you doing? I'm great. Yeah. You know what? You also look great. Oh, thanks, buddy.
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Starting point is 00:26:36 So I think that was like when I was three and my sisters were like, you were like, brother this is off to a good start but like my sister kim was seven or eight and bev was like nine or ten and trisha was 17 and i think it sort of like was like you know it's like a molotov cocktail in your life something like that happening but it my sisters kim and bev are so close in age that they sort of band it to Trisha like went off and I was just the annoying sister. My memories of growing up are just wanting to be in, like breathing the same air as Kim and Bev. I thought they were so cool and they thought I was a gnat. Like I was the bait one time and Kim will get my sister Kim's
Starting point is 00:27:36 going to be so mad that I tell the story. But they did hog tie me and throw me into a shower in my mother's room because my mother's having like friends over or something and she was like watch leslie and they're like okay and they're like you want to play a game and i was like okay and so they tied me up and threw me and my mom's shower just like creating some sort of barrier to and then i was like i'm going to get out of this and i got out and i just would bang on their door and then they'd be like you can sit in the closet and i would sit in the closet and just like listen to them have a conversation to them have a conversation to Because it was all, we grew up in the country, so, like, they were very cool.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Like, I thought they were very cool, but I think they were popular and they would talk. They would just talk. It was like all, like, these cool girls. So I'm like, whatever, at this point, I'm probably eight or nine or ten. And they're just, I just thought they were so cool. And I was so not cool. And I would just listen to, like, those. girls talk. It is so funny. This really tells you everything you need to know about country
Starting point is 00:28:46 living. It's like a perfectly fine way to spend a day is listening to siblings talk through a closet wall. It was like, it was better than a shower, Seth. It's better than hog tied in a shower. But I just, I don't know. And then they would just, they would have to let me into a room because if I bang too hard, my mom would be here. So, but I would sit in that and I was in the dark and I would just, and I couldn't have been happier listening. to them talk about like whatever boys and like I remember I remember things like when they all got like rats tails remember like that was like cool like girls would cut their hair and I remember Kim I like snuck down to the basement I was like they're gonna die Terry's Terry Johnson's rat's tail or whatever and they dipped it in bleach and her entire hair it just like the bleach went like and ate it and it fell off And I was like this, like hiding over saddles, just being like, you know, I just... It's so rare as a kid when you're, like, hiding and peeking that you see something actually as cool as a rat's tail falling off from an overdose of bleach.
Starting point is 00:29:56 That's the dream. It is, but it's just, I remember it being like, I'll never forget it. Like, it's like a dynamite, like just burning. And then it stopped, right? And then they were like, well, so long, that's, that's going to take a lot of growing back. She had to have, like, grown her hair out long, and they had to cut it and stuff like that. But, yeah, my sisters... I mean, it is so funny to think of, like...
Starting point is 00:30:19 I mean, thank God it stopped when it did and, you know, it's like... Take her whole head off. Get to the whole head. I know. It's like when you see, like, when they put a tooth in, like, Coca-Cola and they watch what happens to it. That's what happens. That's not how you dye hair. I learned a very...
Starting point is 00:30:33 I remember also, like, I did things because of them, because I thought they were so cool. like I shaved my legs way earlier than I should have. It was a terrible idea because I was terrible at it. Like I just came out. It looked like a crime scene. I watched them like plucking their eyebrows and I was like, well, they're idiots. They should just use a razor blade, like a razor. And then I shaved half my eyebrows off.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I mean, they would, their big thing too was like they would let me. hang out and they'd be like, hey, Leslie, will you go to the kitchen and get me and they'd have some order, like, Coke or this or whatever? I'd be like, okay. And they're like, we'll count and see how fast you could do it. I would do anything if you would count to see how fast I could do it. And I think that's why now I'm always, I'm like such a crazy multitasker, because I'd be like, okay, and I'd start running up the steps. And then I would come back. And I was like, you never were counting. Kim's like, no, we would never count. You would come, we'd hear you like clomping down the stairs
Starting point is 00:31:43 and it'd be like 18, 19, 20, and I'd be like, here's your Coke, here's your chips. But yeah, I just always thought they were so cool. And like, but then, you know, never want to be around. Did you ever, did you ever catch up an age? Like at what point were, was it the most likely for you and the two that were the next oldest? to like hang out socially.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So Kim Bib, I think it really shifted, like when Kim went to college and my, when they left the house, my mom was working in Richmond. So we were sort of like our sort of housekeeper would sort of stay with us during the week. And she would watch us and sort of just take care of us during the week. And my mom was away working like Monday through Friday. She was the Director of Consumer Affairs for the Commonwealth of Virginia. She'd, like, worked in politics and then went on to do this. And when, and we were staying in Lovingston because Bev and Kim were in high school and they wanted to stay there.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And they, you know, it was their high school experience. So when they were leaving, I was coming into ninth grade. And I was like, I don't need to stay in this town. Let's get out. I want to go to Richmond. That's a big city. And so I convinced my mom was like, let's sell the house. let's move to out like let's go and so when i moved to richmond i think my sister kim and i
Starting point is 00:33:16 because she was going to vc u she'd started she'd like when by the time i hit like my sophomore year junior year she started to go to vc u which is in richmond and then i won this contest on Oprah winfrey that then started taking me to new york so suddenly i think my life became interesting to her and like it just sort of we started to sort of catch up like I wasn't you know I was 17 she gave me her ID so I could have a fake ID you know and the contest you won on Oprah Winfrey is you got her a Coke in under 18 seconds I got 15 seconds congratulations 15 I got imman a Coke in 14 seconds you were like this is what it was all for this is what is for I've been ready for this moment thank you Kimman But yeah, that's when we, I feel like that's when we started to and she would come to New York and then Kim and I, I think of my three older sisters. I'm closest with her because she just like Bev's life sort of, you know, went a different way and Trisha had kids and had her own thing. And Kim and I sort of suddenly that age gap of like five years didn't seem so big when you're. 18 and she's 23 and like I'm living in New York like I don't know there's something about it and I just remember she would always like come to New York and I she has this she was like in this she always had this thing like like guys always loved her and she always and I remember she would
Starting point is 00:34:56 come visit me and I'd feel like she somehow got bumped up to first class or she'd get out of a limo I'd remember kind I'd be like she's like I don't know this guy. I just said come. And it's like back in the day when you could do it. She would leave New York and like my phone would have like my answering machine. We'd be like, hey, Kim, it's this person. I was like, I can't get a date in this freaking city. And like you have them lined up.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Like she really got to like sort of lit. It felt like she had a very, she had a New York experience about even though she didn't live here and she was still going to school in a VCU. She took her sweet time to finish VCU. Did you guys, I would imagine with the age. gap and you know losing your father at such a young age so you had a single mom like were you were there many trips where you were with all five of you no there i i really i think that sort of changed like i i know there must have been i mean there were trips kim and bev and Tricia have trips, but, like, where we were from? Like, we didn't, I mean, there weren't
Starting point is 00:36:07 really, like, in Virginia, like, you would go to Virginia Beach. Like, I remember seeing, like, my memory is such, I think it's probably because my dad dying that, like, it was such a jolt to my system, um, that my memory sort of, like, collapses. Like, I, I have met some memories of him and then I sort of lose memories. Like, I just, it's all sort of, sort of awash. So I see pictures sometimes and I feel like I create the memories in my head from seeing pictures. So I remember seeing pictures of like, we clearly went on vacation together in Virginia Beach. Like I can see my aunts and uncles. So like that's where we would go. We wouldn't do any place that seemed really like, like we were going to like Paris or something.
Starting point is 00:36:54 You know, so the show, the first, when you film White Lotus, that was the first time you were at a White Lotus Resort. I was the very first time. Like, I, that sort of thing of, like, going, like, taking your children to someplace fancy, like, that is so foreign to me. I, I mean, my favorite, probably, like, trip I took, because I always felt like with my mom, because maybe she was always just hustling to, like, you know, she was working. And she had to raise, you know, these four girls.
Starting point is 00:37:25 So I remember that. Everybody was out of the house. I was, it was probably my eighth grade year. Kim, Kim didn't have any interest in it, I don't think. Eight, yeah, it was like eighth grade. And I, we knew my sister Trish had a friend who had a place in Key Largo, Florida. Like, Florida was like the destination. Like, we would go to Florida. I remember it felt like a series of years. We'd go to Florida in hopes of getting into Disney World or Disneyland, whichever one is there. And then my mom, who was a little bit always late, we'd always, like, get there too late. And they'd be like, we're full up. Nobody else can come in.
Starting point is 00:38:13 So we'd go across the street to SeaWorld. I mean, so then we'd, like, be there forever. So, like, every trip. So I've never been to Disney World in Florida with my mother. But. It makes it sound like there's, like, SeaWorld reps standing outside Disney. where I'm being like, hey, bad news. You guys, you guys like dolphins?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. You want to see an orca? You're paying full freight over here now. We were going to give you two for ones, but you really want to do something, so. But that's my memory of a kid of being like, oh, we didn't get in. And so I was like, I've got to somehow convince my mother. So I always had to plan everything. So I called my sister Trish, and I said, hey, can you call your friend who has this house in Key Largo?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Because I think I'd been down there maybe like to babysit for my sister Trish. Like she would use me like to babysit for her because she was having kids and I was like at the age of like babysitting age. And she was like, okay. And I called her friend and I was like, can we get this for my spring break? She was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I came and I was like, mom, here's with the airplate. These are the airfares. I've got us a free place to stay.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Let's go to Key Largo. So I sort of like orchestrated this trip. And my mom decided to go, I think maybe with her best friend who was not my aunt, but we call everybody an aunt like my Aunt Shelby. And my Aunt Shelby's sister, who I cannot remember her name. But I remember she'd always was in like fabulous, fabulous like caftans. And she had a pool and they lived in northern Virginia. And she had a husband who I. never was around, and he only, and whenever I'd see him, he'd always be wearing shorts and
Starting point is 00:40:00 sitting in front of, like, the television with, like, a, like, one of those, like, trays you could eat in front of the... Oh, TV trays. Yeah, TV tray. Yeah. And so... Pretty sexy guy. Yeah. I just don't remember him being around. On Shelby's sister had a catch. But she was such a fox, though. She was, like, like, loud and boisterous and, like, she had this great, like, brown hair that reminded me. of like a country and western like singer and like you know i don't know loretta lynn had a love child and she was really fun and so mama was like we're going to take shelby and her sister and her sister's daughter who i feel like might have been also named leslie and so we went
Starting point is 00:40:44 and it was really fun and you had golf carts that you got to drive around the island because it's a little island and it's kind of like wherever it was and cute Largo. And we were at the pool, and there were, you know, other kids, and they were like, hey, everybody's sneaking out of their time shares or whatever they are. And I was like, we're in, we're doing it. And so I created this very elaborate plan. We snuck, somehow we snuck out. I think we probably did it so poorly. We did it through the front door. Like, I was like, it's too high. We were like on the second floor so we couldn't jump out of window. So like, but it was like definitely crawling and getting out, go out, steal the golf cart,
Starting point is 00:41:29 drive there, hang out, drive back. It felt very exciting because like I wasn't doing that in Richmond and I definitely wasn't doing that in the country because you would just be out in your pasture with like cows and horses and nobody lived close enough that you could walk anywhere. And so golf carts will still. No, yes. And also golf carts are fancy and we didn't have any anything like that. And so we snuck back in and I was like, I am so fucking clever. I am really good at sneaking out. Like I was so proud of myself. And we got back to into bed and I remember my mom and this woman who I can't in the caftan came in and they're like, Leslie, are you okay? And like they came in pulling the same heist because they knew we were gone and knew we were gone the
Starting point is 00:42:20 whole time. And my mom was trying to like see if she could like play me and get, she wanted to see how far I could make my stupid plan look like it was really working. And I just remember Aunt Shelby's sister was so pissed. She just ruined my mom's plan and she started screaming. The party's over. The party is over. I just, she wouldn't stop saying it. And my mom was trying to be mad. Suddenly she was like, you lied. You're like, and then this woman kept saying, the party's over, the party's over. And my mom started laughing. And then she was like, and then she was like, oh, forget it.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's not worth it. We're on vacation. Forget it. I remember sneaking out once and coming back. And again, thinking the same thing. Like, got away with it. How did you sneak out? How'd you sneak out through a window or like?
Starting point is 00:43:10 No, front door as well. Because we lived in the middle of like, you know, suburbs, but like New Hampshire suburbs, pretty woodsy. But I remember sneaking. out coming back and then waking up, my dad walked into the room and was just standing in the doorway and he went, where are we? He goes, where were you? And I said, I've been here the whole night and he went, liar. And then he went back to bed and let me just like sit with it until the morning. Because of course, what happened was like the dog had barked and then he woke up and
Starting point is 00:43:38 and then you're gone. Did you, did he ever dress it the next morning? Oh, 100%. Yeah. Was he like, I was scared you were dead. I was. I think it was a He was angry that I, to be honest, I think if I said I snuck out and went to a party, my punishment would have been far less. It was that I thought I could just say, I mean, by the way, if your dad's standing in your doorway and says, where were you? Like, that's a good hint that he's on to something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:05 I just like, he had never done it on a previous night. But like your young mind that's not really deducing things. It's like, you just always make the wrong choice. It's very rare. Always, right? Josh, did you, did you guys sneak out together ever? Never together. Even though we're only two years apart, we never snuck out together.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Did you guys hang out? There was so much sneaking out. Yeah, we hung out a little. I mean, more later on. Oh, Seth goes, a little. A little, but I, it was more, I will say, and I mean this, like Josh had, we had friends because we're two years apart in school, and then we had a group of friends that were between us that kind of started more Josh's friends than mine, but I hung out.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I think it allowed me to hang out. Josh because they were like a gateway class. It wasn't just me hanging out with... When I was a senior, I wasn't hanging out with sophomores. It was like hanging out with juniors and then Josh was also... Got it. That was like the Matt Traxler. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Max Angeloids. Do you remember when... What was your moment where like it wasn't... Like you were like, oh, we actually really do want to hang out together? We went to college together. Yeah. And that sort of... That kind of sealed the deal because there would be...
Starting point is 00:45:18 And we were in the same fraternity. So there would be like, you know, Friday afternoon, every fraternity would, like, cook out. They were called TG's, I guess, for, thank God it's Friday. TG. I think so. I think that's what they were called. Or was it tailgates or was it short for tailgates? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Tailgates. It was always on Friday. But aren't tailgates always are surrounding, like, a game? Yeah. I don't know. But I wanted to be called TG's. TG's. Yeah, TG.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah, TG's. TG's. TG's. And then, yeah, so we hung out at college a bit because we would be at these, you know, fraternity parties or we'd be going to the games together. And then we lived in Amsterdam together, working for a comedy theater out there. So we've overlapped a lot over there. Yeah. Amsterdam?
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah. But then. Did you take pot together in Amsterdam? We have taken pot as they've taken as they say it. We took two pots? We took two pots. Two pots and a space cake. We took two pots, one bowl, and a frying pan.
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Starting point is 00:49:07 This holiday, give more than a gift. Give AncestryDNA. Visit Ancestry.ca for more details. Terms apply. I ended up in a... I've been in New York since 2001, and Josh has been in L.A. since, like, basically 02. Yeah. So it's, so we haven't that, you know, we, we had a real hot start as far as, like, cohabitating and being in the same places, but not since.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Not since. But now you do this, so you get to see each other on the Zooms. It's a real breakthrough to do a podcast with a sibling. It's cool, though. And then I've also, like, I've really inserted myself in Seth's college friend group. And I've sort of, I've been welcomed in. Like, yeah, welcome in. We're in a, we're in a fantasy football league.
Starting point is 00:49:49 and we do a trip every year with those guys. Where, like, where's your trip? The best one, we did go to the Grand Canyon for our fantasy football draft. Yeah. Okay. Wait, you just reminded me. I took my mom to the Grand Canyon. Maybe that was a great family.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Like, oh, I just see, I told you guys. Did you do it or did you see a picture of the Grand Canyon and you think you did it? No, so I... How old were you? This is very cool to bring a mom to a Grand Canyon. How old were you? Well, I was...
Starting point is 00:50:17 I got a job in New Orleans. And my mom flew out to L.A. And we drove from L.A. to New Orleans together. And then I did the job. Just to, sorry to interrupt, but is that something, did that seem like something your mom would do? Or were you surprised that she offered or that you asked? I don't, you know what? I think I was like in my 20s and I, it's, I remember feeling like it was like a big deal because my mom wasn't, I always say she was like a bit of a wolf because. she was always like, oh, yeah, you can go to move to New York. Oh, yeah, you can go do this. Oh, you want to go live in Japan when you're 16 for two months, fine. But for some reason, driving to New Orleans felt dangerous, somehow more dangerous than, like, going when I was 16. So she was like, you're going to be, I'm going to do this with you. So she came, or maybe she just wanted
Starting point is 00:51:10 to go antiquing in, like, New Orleans. And she had some, like, subplanned. But I went there, I did that job. Then I flew home to Virginia to Richmond. and I then was like, I have to drive my, this car, my car, back to L.A. after the job was done. And she was like, I was like, and I think I proposed it to her. I was like, let's do it together. And I went to AAA, which, by the way, I remember thinking and being in Virginia Beach when I was a kid and sitting in the back of my mom's car and seeing a triple A sign.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And clearly I must have been like aware of A sign. for some reason. I don't know if like somebody had gone into it or something, but I remember being like, why are people advertising that they're an AA? Isn't it supposed to be anonymous? And now it's not anonymous. And you've put it on the back. And I was like, there's so many people. So I went to AAA and got like they did the triptics and we drove. And I remember in my heart, I wanted to do three things my mom hadn't done. So I was. was like, Mama, we're going to go to Graceland, we're going to go to the Grand Canyon, and we're going to go to Vegas. And she's like, I don't want to see where Elvis is born,
Starting point is 00:52:29 or where Elvis lives, because it's just going to be a letdown. I don't want to see a big hole in the ground. And I don't want to go to Vegas. And I was like... She sounds fun. Yeah. And I was like, why not? It'll be really fun. Lesnar Louise, I don't want to do any other things. Cut to, we do all of them. And we get to Graceland, she's in tears, like, she starts having, like, I think she's about to have a heart attack. She's, like, so, she's so in love with Elvis Presley. She was scared of, like, going and somehow being disappointed, I think. And I think, like, seeing his, like, it was, like, very deep for her. I mean, she just wept the entire time. So that was. I thought when you said
Starting point is 00:53:10 very deep, you were referring to the grave. They were very worried his fans were going to dig up the bones. So it's pretty deep. He went in at six feet deep, but he was a big boy and he's sunk down another couple feet. My mother's rolling right now. She's like, Seth, don't you dare say that about Elvis. God, she loved Elvis. I loved Grace Land. I thought it delivered. It delivers. It's so cool. And then we got to the Grand Canyon. And I just remember her face at the Grand Canyon. and she was just like, she was like, well, that is not just a hole. And I was like, no, Mama, it is not just a hole. And then cut to, we get to Las Vegas, and I can't get her off the slot machines.
Starting point is 00:53:57 She was sitting there like a crazy person on the slot machine. So that trip was actually pretty great. I like that it started with her being like, I'm going to regret it if I go. And at the end, you were like, I'm regretting it that you can. I cannot get you away from the slots. I can't get you away from the slot. And she's a terrible driver. So I, every time I remember she was driving and she would hit the break so hard.
Starting point is 00:54:22 And I feel like I turned around and I saw like, I was like, Mama, I think you just caused like, you may have just caused like a pile up behind us. Because she's like, what are you talking about? Like, she was just, she was very like that. And I was like, okay. That's amazing. You're insane. I think that's such a wonderful, I don't know who's instinct. I mean, it's great that you have.
Starting point is 00:54:42 had that instinct that that would be a special thing to do. I think that's something, Sam always says to me, like, I think I, because I lost, I don't have a lot of memories. I'm always trying to form it. So, like, I get very excited about planning something for somebody else or planning an experience is really fun to me. And then, like, I love watching people open presents that I get them. Like, I almost more than, like, I like opening presents.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I know that sounds, I mean, listen, I like a gift. But, like, sometimes it feels like too much pressure to have the right. But I love watching. I love when people win. Like, I just love, like, you could, it doesn't matter what you would. I think, I just get so excited at that and about that. And so I think watching her have firsts in her late 50s. and she didn't really travel a lot. And like, it felt exciting and curious. And I think it was
Starting point is 00:55:48 probably the onslaught of like me starting to watch her. She was always the most curious person I knew. And as she got older, she got a little less curious and less as she got older and older. And so it always felt like I was going to jolt something into her. And also, I think just if I could get in a car because she was, you know, Southerners or my family, they like, they don't give it up. Like, they keep, they like secrets or they don't like to talk about stuff. So I also thought if I had her stuck in a car for 12 hours, I'm like Barbara Walters. I'll start getting her to talk. It's like, and so I think I learned a lot on that trip about my father. And, and she really talked a lot about stuff that I think she didn't want to really
Starting point is 00:56:40 visit in life because I think it was so probably painful for her. Of course. Yeah, and so, but that trip was, look, I just remembered it. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see any shows in Vegas? Do you recall? Did we see a sick, Fried and Roy? I don't know if I, you know what? I don't think, I think we didn't see a show. That I screwed up. That I didn't have the foresight to like plan in advance. You missed Siegfried and Roy?
Starting point is 00:57:11 I missed, but I remember, but you know what? I'm also, I can't tell you, I just remember getting there and every time we pulled in, I was traveling with like my, you remember those bike racks, those treks, and I had this mountain bike because I would bike everywhere when I was in New Orleans for some reason. And I would just be lifting this bike on and off as we drove cross-country. and I remember pulling up in front of whatever hotel we had booked or I had booked and just unloading the bike and them being like not impressed that I was pulling a bike. I was like, well, this is not Sharon Stone and casino, is it?
Starting point is 00:57:53 No, when a bike pulls up, they're like, easy money. They're like, this is not, there's no card counting going on from the guy who pulls in with the bike. No, no, there is no. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah. Did you like plan that trip in a way that you stayed in like cute little towns or were you sort of like roadside motels? Oh, that we like just, I was like, we'll figure that out, which is. So we would always just drive, like my plan was to drive a certain amount of time. And like, and I had a dog. So I think I would just pull into motels that would take a dog or we'd sneak jack my dog. into the hotel, and my mom was just like, I can't believe we're doing this.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And like, my poor dog had like the worst stomach. He was like, almost like he was just like the whole time. That was a rough thing. I don't know how I figured out a hotel in Vegas where I could have my dog in that. That I don't recall how. Did anybody ever find, like, discover somebody worked for the hotel. discover you'd snuck a dog in, and when they found the dog, did they scream, the party's over? Or did they scream?
Starting point is 00:59:11 Liar! Liar! Liar! You saw the sign! You saw the sign! No dog's allowed. I don't know. We somehow got away with it.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And I would just like, I don't know. That is so funny because I don't, I hate lying. It's like, I like to pull a sneak and a surprise on people. Yeah, that's not a lie. But that doesn't feel like a lie. Like, I hate being like, do you have a dog? And I'm like, no, but somehow. I'm a terrible.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I mean, I will say I'm a terrible liar as an adult, whereas, like, my wife would sneak. I mean, if she could sneak the kids on a plane and luggage, she would do it. And it's just the amount of, like, corners she's willing to cut. And I'm like, I don't have the nerve for this. And she's like, then you go in the other TSA line. I don't need you blowing up my spot. Josh, are you a good liar? The full heist move.
Starting point is 01:00:02 No, I mean, it was the one. rule in our family is that we couldn't you couldn't lie to our parents so if you if we were going to be going to a friend's house he'd be like are people going to be drinking and your best move was to be to say yes yep and then he would say then stay there and then you were fine it was only when you lied and you tried to pull a fast one that he took great offense yeah and then you'd get in trouble My mom was similar to that one. I don't know what, like, also, too. I also feel like, because I'm the baby of the four, and I think by the time she got
Starting point is 01:00:38 to me, like, the way she raised us changed, you know, and so I remember her saying when I was in high school and her saying, if you want to drink, there's the bar and just don't drink and drive. And that became, like, very a big deal. And I think also there was something because she took like the allure away from drinking that like she was like, well, if you wanted it, it's right there. So that going to, like, that sneak of it all became not.
Starting point is 01:01:15 She took that fun away from it. Dad's thing was he was definitely just like, I am so insulted that either of you think you're smarter than me. Well, of course. Like that was always like, yeah. But you do. You think you, you think you're so, so clever. I feel like if I had kids, that would be my thing, too, that, like, lying to me and thinking
Starting point is 01:01:36 that I'm a moron. But then everybody I knew as kids always goes, like, my kid thinks I'm such an idiot. And I was like, oh, I guess that's, like, the right. Do your kids think you're an idiot? Yes. And they're little, too. And they also are bad liars. They're bad liars.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Like, that's just all children, I feel like. I mean, there might be a few magical children out there that. are good at it but yeah watching a kid like who's under 10 try to lie to you is awesome um when they're not your kid maybe when they're your kid it makes you mad but when i see it it's just like oh my gosh josh do you have kids no yeah my middle had a scab on the end of his nose the other day and i said uh what happened he goes i don't know and i'm like you don't know and he goes and then his older brother was like he took like one of those electric like nail file uh like you know how it like smooths out your nails
Starting point is 01:02:29 and you just put it on his nose you say so who's doing manicures in your house who hasn't we run a small salon you know New York is expensive Leslie yeah the rents are insane
Starting point is 01:02:48 so we do have a small sort of off license can I make an appointment because my nails are pretty they're nubs I need I need some help Again, our main guy is doing his nose. It's also like, so my oldest wants to be Captain America, and my wife ordered him a Captain American costume that was too big. For Halloween, not just as a car.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Yeah, no, he's never going to make it as Captain America. Seth, how bad is that scab? Sorry, I can't get past it. It's so bad, you can't believe it, and he doesn't care at all. And I'm like, are you not like embarrassed? He's like, what happened? I'm not going to do it again. I'm like, great. Yeah, he touched the stove.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Oh, my God. Now I want to see if I've taken a picture of him since he did it. Oh, God, please, please, please have a picture. So wait, Captain America costumes, too big. Can you see that thing on his nose? I can't. It doesn't look terrible. All right, it's not terrible.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Also, does he have a black eye? Probably. Oh, my God. What are you? I mean, it's just, he's one. We have two kids. That's the, that's the, he's the wild one. Yeah, he's the one, like you, we have two boys, one who's, like, pristine and the other one who's just like a thousand cuts, a thousand bruises, never knows where he got him.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Or he does, and he's lying. Oh, he's lying, he's lying. I love how, isn't it amazing how we all just come out different, like same mom and dad, same sex, and then we just have our personalities and part of it's crafted from the experience. that we have. I mean, I know that part of me being an actor comes from spending so much time alone and in my imagination. And like, I know I've always just, I gravitate towards, like, I love listening to people talk. Like, I, because I would, like, crawl down from my room. I was always crawling somewhere as a kid. But, like, my mom would, like, have her friends over and they play rook. There's just some card game. And I would like bring in, I had a pillow. It was called a
Starting point is 01:05:00 BB pillow. I don't know why I called it that, but that I had this pillow that I always had. And I would like just sneak my way in slowly and to the point that I would just almost be underneath the table. And I could sleep just listening to them. There was something so comforting to hearing my mom and her friend. talk shit like just talk shit like talking about i don't even know what they're talking shit about but like just their banter back and forth like playing a card game sitting in the kitchen under that bright light i don't know there was something so great about that well it probably took you back to being in the closet listening to him and bed exactly that's my life crawling
Starting point is 01:05:54 Sam's like, where do you want to go on vacation, Leslie? You're like, just a closet where we can hear some teen girls talk about cool shit. This has been amazing, Leslie. I'm so excited for Palm Royale Season 2 comes out on November 12th. It's such a great show with a fantastic cast. That Kristen Wiggs, she's magical.
Starting point is 01:06:14 She's not bad. I think she's got a chance in this biz. She is so funny in this show. I mean, everybody is in like Carol Burnett. Like, God. I mean, it's amazing. Carol Burnett getting, I mean, season one, the amount of laughs she got is like a coma patient. As a coma patient is, it's like a, it's an acting class right there.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Yeah. She can walk onto a set and say good morning and people start laughing. It's wonderful. She's a, she's a gift to this world. All right, but before we let you go, Josh is going to ask you our speed round questions. All right, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation, relaxing, adventurous, or educational?
Starting point is 01:06:53 I'm going to say adventurous, but my adventurous vacations always include an element of education. Of course. I always spend one day with a tour guide wherever I go. Okay. That's a good. I like to learn some fun facts about the place I'm going. It's like being in a museum, if there's like an audio guide, it's just like it's just going to make everything more interesting. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:16 If you're against that, then, okay. Just be against learning about art. Feel free. What is your favorite means of transportation? My feet. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family. What family would you like to take a vacation with? Guys, why is Robert De Niro the only thing?
Starting point is 01:07:42 It's the first thing that popped into my... It's such a fantastic answer. That's what popped into. We haven't gotten it. We haven't gotten it. That's what just popped into my head, Robert De Niro. Great. Great. I mean, spend in a few days with Bob, just... On vacation?
Starting point is 01:07:56 On vacation? By the way, very good parent. Very good parent. Yep. That's it? That's where you want to go on vacation with good parents, not bad ones. Yeah. And who can talk about mainstreams?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Yeah, you're right. And, like, Deer Hunter, please. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My dad. That's great. You are from Lovingston, Virginia, is your hometown. If you were the Board of Tourism trying to get more families to come take vacations in Lovingston, what would you tell them are some highlights?
Starting point is 01:08:32 Well, I have to tell you, Lovingston is kind of a tourist destination now. It was like a one-horse town when I was growing up, and we had like an IGA, and that was it, and the chicken coop. And now I just went back with Kim Bib and we, because she lives in South Carolina and we, like, she'll take care of our dog if salmon are away, like shooting in Thailand or someplace where you can't take your dog. And we always stop in Virginia and see my Aunt Ruby and my cousin Pauline.
Starting point is 01:09:07 There's like microbreweries and whiskey distilleries. Oh, wow. And there's vineyards. And the main draft. of Lovingston, which has all these great old buildings, all these young hipsters and cool kids have like come in and are buying them and restoring them. So like the library was this old church and somebody bought it and completely restored it. And it was so cool. It's so cool to see a town that felt forgotten like growing up like nobody. And now suddenly
Starting point is 01:09:45 it's very, very cool. And so go for the whiskey and the wine and the microbreweries and the antiquing and stay for the hospitality. Great, great answer. There you go. And maybe some skiing at Wintergreen. Yeah. And then Seth has our final questions.
Starting point is 01:10:08 But you've answered it. The question was, it was A, have you been to the Grand Canyon? We know the answer. Yes. And the follow-up was, was it worth it? And I feel like we know the answer. By the way, guys, I've been to the Grand Cranion twice because I loved it. Was the second time not worth it?
Starting point is 01:10:23 Second time was really, I think the second time, I think I, my mom's trip was the second time I went. The first time I. So you did a, you did a pre-trip. I did a, I did a, I shot a bounce commercial when I was living in New York and I was studying acting and I got a bounce commercial. And because they have to try to, they don't fake it. So they take you to a place where it's very like a dry. So we shot it in like Arizona. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:56 And I was the girl that had the bounce clothes and the other girl didn't. So you need it whatever so that the bounce actually works when you're shooting it. So they're not lying to the consumer. And I remember this other girl who was in the commercial. I was like, hey, you want to do a road trip? Let's go to the Grand Canyon. She was like, okay. And so we went to the Grand Canyon.
Starting point is 01:11:18 And I was like, hey, you ever been in a helicopter? Should we take a helicopter tour? She was like, okay. And you were spending that bounce money as fast as it came in. I think you had per diem. I just, I'm, listen, this girl had a bank account when she was five years old and and always had a piggy bank. And I was always like saving my clams.
Starting point is 01:11:40 So you could go take a helicopter ride into the Grand Canyon. That's the one thing my mom wouldn't do. I was like, mama, let's take a helicopter ride. And she's like, no way. No way, Leslie Louise, which I wish she had because she would have gone bananas because that was extraordinary. All right. Well, this has been the best. Can I ask you, why do you pick the Grand Canyon?
Starting point is 01:12:05 Because it's like the iconic American family trip destination. And it's really half and half for like either been there and didn't really like it. or people haven't been and they are not interested or interested. Like, it's a real kind of clean split. Wait, how could you go to the Grand Canyon and not... Because you can be like Seth. You don't like the Grand Canyon? No, and you know, we had a guest on who said they went on a trip to the Grand Canyon
Starting point is 01:12:32 and they had to lie about having liked it. That was your mom. Liar! She loved it. Like, I felt so bad. Oh, my God. Betty Bibb, Betty Bibb lied. Have you first said she did not?
Starting point is 01:12:49 Betty Bib did not lie. She would also like, wait, can I ask you, have you ever been, you know one place I want to go? I want to see those Mount Rushmore. Have you ever been there? No, no, never been there. But I would like to see that as well. I always hear it's underwhelming that it's smaller than you think it's going to be. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:13:08 But then there's also, they've been working on, there's like a crazy horse, I believe, up there that is supposed to be very impressive, but it's taken years and years and years and years, and it's still not done. Yeah, it's not an easy. Also, it's a, it's a, feels more remote than going. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:24 But the badlands, I hear, are great, which is also like right there. So the crazy horse in Vegas is done. Yeah, that you can go to. That's good. Yeah, but I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'm enough of a gentleman. Seth,
Starting point is 01:13:36 that's why you've had the same job because you're so funny and that's why you don't get fired. Thank you. Like Josh and I get, Lay it off. Seth gets to rub it in our unscabbed noses. One job. One job, Myers.
Starting point is 01:13:51 That's it. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it. Thanks. Thank you, Leslie. Bye, guys. Thank you. Bye, guys.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Thank you. Bye, now. Bye, guys. Bye. Leslie, she learned to sneak around. She crawled and creep. She was. elite respect her sneak technique as a child Leslie learned how to sneak
Starting point is 01:14:22 saw Terry's rat tail get eaten up by bleach wanted to do things in her own way like shave her eyebrows with a razor blade her older sisters they had all the the power hawk tied her up tossed her in the shower But she broke out. Her sister said our shit. You can listen to us talk from inside our closet. Break out! Her interest beat sisters!
Starting point is 01:14:57 They were so neat. Listen! But could not speak. No doubt! She'd sneak a peek. In eighth grade, thought a trip that she could take was to Key Largo over her spring break. Her mom and Aunt Shelby, and Aunt Shelby's sister too.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Went down to Florida to see what they could do. Leslie snuck out! Thought she was pretty smart. Right out the front door and hopped an golf cart. But when she got home, her mama was right there. The party is over, Shelby's sister did declare. Sneak out! Don't make a peep party!
Starting point is 01:15:45 But be discreet, sneak back. Pretend to sleep trouble, but not so deep. Suggested a cross-country road trip with a mom with stops in Graceland, Vegas, and the Grand Canyon. Mom heard the list and said my dear Leslie. None of those places sound very good to me. In Vegas, her mom loved to play those slot machines. Didn't worry about flight attendants and proteins.
Starting point is 01:16:20 In Graceland, you could feel Elvis's soul. And the Grand Canyon was more than just a hole. Be-hole! Don't take a leap, long time! At least a week, mom time! Was such a treat. Road trip! Memories to keep

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