Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - MARLA MINDELLE Went From Bucks County To Broadway

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

This week on the pod, Seth and Josh welcome Marla Mindelle! Marla talks about growing up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, her journey from musical theater kid to Broadway star, and the path that led her from performing onstage to creating her own work. She shares stories from the whirlwind of Tony season, including performing at the Tony Awards while starring in Titanique. Marla also reflects on early New York trips with her dad, family vacations to Long Beach Island, Maine, and Disney World, moving to Los Angeles to focus on writing, developing Titanique into the international hit it is today, and traveling to productions around the world to see how audiences in places like London and Paris embraced the show with their own local twists. Titanique is on Broadway now! Watch this episode on the Family Trips YouTube or Spotify, or listen wherever you get your podcasts! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Support our sponsors: Hero Bread Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to https://hero.co and use code TRIPS at checkout. That’s TRIPS at https://hero.co HIMS For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, ED, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://www.hims.com/trips ButcherBox As an exclusive offer, new listeners can get their choice between free ribeye or top sirloins for a year or ground beef and bacon for a year, PLUS $20 off when you go to https://wwwButcherBox.com/trips FitBod Level up your workout. Join Fitbod today to get your personalized workout plan.Get 25% off your subscription or try the app FREE for seven days at https://wwwFitbod.me/TRIP. Rula Rula patients typically pay $15 per session when using insurance. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at https://www.rula.com/trips #rulapod About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, Sufi. Congratulations. Pashi, I have watched your Northwestern convocation. It was fantastic. And I believe it was a very special weekend that I was not there for. So please tell me, how was it? It was great. It was, I mean, real quick sort of sad note.

We did. We lost a dog. Our dog, Debbie, passed away right before we went on this trip. Rest in peace, Debbie. Yeah. 15 years old? 15 and a half. We found her.

On the street, we loved her so much. She was just a great dog. How old was she when you've discovered Debbie? About three, we think. Gotcha. Yeah. But, man, she was such a good dog. She barked at everyone.

She would bark at you. And a lot of people had some hesitation to sort of pet her because she was barking at them. And you never showed any hesitation. You would sort of come right in. with your hand and and pet her and I feel like she was just confused enough. Yeah. So that she would never, that was it. Like she wouldn't.

I'd sit at that chair at your house and Debbie would love to just be a part of that. Yeah. Yeah. So rest in peace, Debbie. Debbie always to me had the energy of like a 49 year old woman who had maybe just receive some bad customer service. Yeah. Her name was Debbie because when we've,

found or she'd look like someone's aunt. Yeah. And, like, who, like, smoked still. Yeah. Maybe wear glasses with the chain. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which McKenzie actually bought me those chains when I started wearing glasses. And I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do this. Not quite there yet, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, she was a great dog. And it was, in a way, having to go to Northwestern,

or having the opportunity to go was a good diversion from that we're still dealing with. But I was asked to speak to the graduates of the School of Communication at Northwestern at their communication and hadn't, mom and dad hadn't been back to Evanston since I was a student. And once I got the speech written and I felt good about it, you know, I sent it off to you and to our friend Peter Gross to get some notes. And once you guys were like, this is great, here are some ideas. I was like, all right, well, now I feel okay about it. And I reached out to mom and dad, who 20 minutes after I asked them,

had booked flights in a hotel. So they were to win it. And it was just great. It was great to be back on campus. Great to be back there with them. You know, we did go into the fraternity house, the Fiji House, and gosh, it's just so gross. Yeah. Because Dad was speaking in length about how much nicer the campus is since the last time he's been there.

Yeah. And the same is not true of our old fraternity house. No. No, no, no. The improvements have passed over. Yeah. But the event itself, the convocation was, it was very emotional. Like I got emotional.

When those graduates started receiving their diplomas, I got choked up. You know, that's how we do. Yeah. And, you know, I was in the regalia, the robes. I wore a tam. It has all that pomp that comes along with it. And we're in the basketball stadium. And you sort of process in with, you know, behind the dean.

And then this student, Shah Zeb Shah. introduced me. He had won this competition. He had sent a video in and he was so good. He like sort of gave a barn burner of an intro to me. That was just great and sort of set the table. And yeah, I was I was nervous, but once you're up there, it just sort of is going. And then afterwards, there was sort of this like field house, this room where graduates could, you know, see their their parents and I sort of made myself available to talk to any of them and talk to so many students and just want the best for them. And I like to think that I gave them a good message to send them out on. And I think mom and dad, the thing they most wanted to share with me when I talked to them

after the thing was how nice that time after was and how many students wanted to talk to you, how many parents wanted to talk to you and how patient you were and generous you were with your time. Yeah. And Steve Carell had spoken at the commencement, the big graduation last year, I want to say, which you could watch it on YouTube. It's great. He has a great sort of unexpected moment in that that really went viral. And he was there because his son was graduating. So he was there with his wife, Nancy and their daughter, but their son was graduating. And he was in a little box right next to where a mom and dad were. So I hadn't seen him before. I spoke, but afterwards I came up and he was like, hey, you know, that was great and we're talking very quickly, but I sort of wanted to see mom and dad, and then his son came in and I was like, well, you should talk to your son and I'm going to talk to my parents. And I liked not having to appear too thirsty in that moment to talk to Corell for longer. But he was very nice. His wife, Nancy,

you know, very, very sweet. Lovely people. Yeah. Lovely people. And then, yeah, then just got to spend the day with mom and dad and it was such a release after doing something like that. So, yeah, it was great. And then you guys, that's weird. I thought you guys had completely different days after,

you did the same thing with dad after the next day? What do you mean? Like, did you, after your graduation, you and mom and dad, like, you basically stayed together and did the same stuff? Yeah.

Oh, that's weird, because I told them that I had talked to you, and then they still told me everything they had done. Oh, yeah. Well, it was very, like, you tried to... I tried at length to talk to all of you. Although, maybe Mom said that you, or I can't remember you told me that I called...

And dad's very good this way. Dad always says, I'm always going to answer the phone when you called. But I called, and you guys were in a very, maybe a loud coffee shop having breakfast. We were in a coffee shop that wasn't that loud, and I think you tried to FaceTime and he wanted to answer. And you correctly said, wait. Yeah.

Because if anyone can ever hear sound coming out of your phone, you're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong. I think that's fair. In a public place. But it's great. Yeah. I mean, it was, you know, and again, one of the things you talked about in your complication, people obviously listening now don't know this, but you were not at your graduation

because you left to do Boom, Chicago, which we have discussed on this. a show many times in Amsterdam a week before your graduation. They offered you a job and you had to take it. And so I got emotional thinking about the fact that it was the first time mom and dad got to see you at graduation. Yeah, I was so happy to sort of get the picture of me in the robes with mom and dad because I didn't have that. Yeah. And then as we were leaving, we had this great driver, Muhammad, the whole time, who made it so much easier to sort of get us from place to place. and lights out.

This dude was amazing. But McKenzie was with us, and she was like, I really want to get a picture of you and your parents under the arch, which is sort of the official entryway to campus. And so, you know, he drove to the rock, which is this, like, very central in campus, which you can't drive there, but it was Sunday, so actual graduation was taking place.

And on our way out, McKenzie was like, I want this picture. And she made sure it happened. And Muhammad got us as close as he could. And then we got to walk in. And I've just got these great pictures of me and mom and dad under the arch. They're very beautiful. Yeah. Very nice.

It was special weekend for sure. And thank you to Northwestern and to Dean Johnson, who asked me. And, yeah, it was an honor. That's great. The highlight for our weekend is a, Addie, four and three quarters, water ski. Ooh, wow. Yeah.

Now, it is one of these, it's not two separate skis. It's like a waterboard. Okay. I'll give it to her. You put your feet in the way you'd want, or the way you would. And it was amazing. And the boy, we've tried so hard to make the boys do it, and they've never wanted to. And she was just, she saw another girl doing it.

And she was like, yeah, no, I'm going to go do that right now. And she sang a little song about how she was a water skier. I'm going to show you a picture of... Oh, my gosh, so happy. She's just so happy. Yeah. And, yeah. So, great.

She's... Congrats to her. And... Congrats to her. Shame on your boys. Shame. They did a rope. They did a rope into a lake.

So I'm going to give them credit for doing that. Yeah. And, yeah. I've got Summer, Summer's coming up quick. You know where I'm going for the first time, Pashi? I will report back on the podcast. I'm going to Cannes in France. Yeah.

Yeah. So I'll report back from Cannes. Yeah. Do you have a film at Cannes? I am. I'm in the new Batman. Oh, cool. Yeah.

I'm Batman. Looking forward to it. I can't believe I've... It's been the hardest secret. keep. Yeah. I mean, obviously, from you especially. But, yeah, I'm going to be the Batman and the new Batman.

And it's not early. Early press screenings, I would say, have been bad. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. You know, they say can is the way you, that's where you write that ship. Yeah, 100%. They said, a lot of people said maybe French people will think you make a good Batman. But, yeah.

Yeah. Do you want me to do the line? Yeah, please. I'm Batman. Oh Even when you said it like a minute ago It was better than that Yeah, yeah, yeah

Well, no, that A minute ago I was telling you I'm Batman That's the way I say it The way you say it there is sort of more natural I think I got nervous just because it's a movie Yeah You know, so like every, you know You try being Batman in a movie

I was nervous the whole time And it comes across They said it's too They said it's way Everybody's like just Batman Nobody likes a jittery Batman And I'm like well is too late.

We already shot it. Anyway, check that out, Batman. Me and Batman this summer. And congrats on your convocation. And who's, what episode is this? Who's about to talk? Marla Mendel. Oh my God, she's fantastic from Titanic, Tony nominee.

Great conversation. Enjoy everybody. It's great to see you again. And I just want to jump right in. We are going to talk about family trips. How was your experience performing at the Tonys? You were fantastic. Oh, thank you.

I wish I could say I remembered any of it, but I was in a blackout the whole day. I imagine. I imagine. It must be, I mean, again, despite it being a show that obviously you're doing every night and you've been doing for years at this point, can you just talk through how much more stressful it is when you're doing it at the Tonys? Oh, my God. Well, you, it's the biggest moment of your life.

You know, it's like the biggest day of your life. It's like your wedding. It's like a musical theater wedding. But you have to be up so early in the morning to tech the actual Tonys before the Tony's start. So I was up at five in the morning. I didn't sleep at all. Then I get to the theater. Then I have to put on my costume.

We bust to the radio city. We do a dress rehearsal. Then we do a 1 p.m. matinee of Titanic. Then I have minding minutes to get ready for the red carpet. And then, you know, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then. And then it all starts. So, I mean, it was like a full day experience. And I feel like I blacked out.

I was in shock. And I was so nervous. I was so nervous. It's so, but you couldn't tell it all. It's funny because it's, you said it's like a wedding, but then, of course, there's so many other people also having their wedding that night. Because I imagine you're not alone with the way you felt. That was the only good thing about it is that I was on a text chain with all the other female nominees.

And it was called Broadway beta blockers because you take beta blockers to relax herself. And so a lot of the ladies were on it. And my soulless was knowing that they were all going through the same thing that I was going through. We were all exhausted. You know, by the end of the two-month kind of campaign where you're also doing eight shows a week, you're on your last like nerve, limb, vocal, you know, chord. And but that being said, getting through it all, I feel like a superhero. I feel like now that I've done that, I can do anything.

You have not done. We're talking on Tuesday morning. So you have not done Titanic since the Tonys, right? Tonight will be your first one. Yes. And frankly, thank God. Because after the Tonians, they should give everyone a week off. It does seem like, you got through it.

Go to Turks and Kegos for a week. Relax. See you in a week. The fact that they didn't give you Sunday off probably is a good indicator of how little they considered that. Exactly. It is a business after all. But you know what? Again, a lot of women all had, most of them all had shows on the, at least ours was at 1 p.m.

So I had 90 minutes to get ready. Do you think it will feel different tonight being on stage knowing that that sort of Tony, you know, whatever gauntlet is over that you just get to do your show again? I think so. I think I will feel like a bit of, I mean, certainly when all the voting, the voters had come and that had stopped, I felt like, oh, I can finally relax. Even though it didn't really bother me, but now I feel like, oh, I have my days free. I mean, you go from, in the thick of it, you go from, and I'm sure you do this too because of how busy you are with your. life. It's like 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. and then you do a show. And the show is already so intense. And you need sleep. And so you're just deprived of all of that for Tony's season. Congratulations, just in general,

on your nominations, multiple, and also just the show itself is, again, this is one of those shows that kind of started in a tiny little space and has worked its way to Broadway. And I think every time it happens, it is just a reminder that producers should take big swings based on a ideas that are really well-developed and funny and joyful. So, congrats. Thank you. Yeah. Is it also on the Tony's, is it kind of like, I mean, I guess you're performing live, so there's a difference. But when you go to a movie premiere or like a friends and family screening, is the vibe in the room incredibly supportive because it's the night to celebrate all of that? Like, is it just, I imagine the audience is over the moon to be there and to be watching all of these performers?

Yeah. Well, you know what? And I think that I think that musical theater, our world is so, it's like such a microcosm. It's so insular. Everyone knows everyone. It's like it's Kevin Bacon. It's six degrees of separation. You've worked with someone. You've been in the same show. And you've been doing it for the past, I've been doing it for now 20 years. So it's unfortunately, I know everyone. So it is so supportive. And people are so happy to be there and to perform. I mean, it is such, it's a feat. And I think that, you know, when you're a child, you dream, oh my God, I just want to be nominated for Tony. I just want to perform. And then you get there and you're really, and for me, I was like, oh, my God, like, I don't know if I could ever do this again because I could pass over at any minute. So, but yeah, it was very supportive. And I was really lucky that my dad was my date. He was there with me. And he's such a huge musical theater person himself. So it just really felt like truly a once in a lifetime moment. Had you ever been in the room at the Tony's before?

Had you gone as just an observer? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, so I've spent a long, a long time on the Broadway. So I was in Sister Act 15 years ago, and I got to perform. But I was never nominated before. So I was there for Sister Act, and I was also in Cinderella, which was also nominated a couple years. But it had been 12 years since I had done the Tonys, not only as performer, but also as a nominee.

And that journey is crazy because you have to basically sit down in your glamorous dress, and then they pull you and you got to change into your costume and then, you know, get changed out. And then they have to make you bring this all over again. So it's truly incredible how it all comes together. And I mean, I will say this, that like the opening number, Pink obviously was the host. Yeah. Was phenomenal. And the opening number had all of the shows.

There were 170 people on stage. And it looked incredible. So I don't know how they pulled that off. It's such a feat. That's very cool. I know from sort of reading your history that your dad was sort of your first connection to this world. Very, very cool that he was your date. I know.

But he gave me the sickness. He gave me the musical. You know, I wish he was a brain surgeon or something like that. Or, you know, maybe in, well, he wasn't. He is in finance, but just something a little bit more stable. Would have been great. But so my mother and father met doing musical theater. So they did a community production of 110 of the shade in Phoenix, Arizona,

and then they did Oliver together. And my father grew up as an aspiring composer and was a savant. You know, he was accepted into the Juilliard school. He went to all these programs called ASCAP and BMI, which are very specific musical theater programs, which kind of churn out some of the most elite composers and lyricists and bookwriters in our field. And he had been writing shows and has done a ton of regional and off-Broadway shows, and it has always been his dream to get a show on Broadway. And I, you know, listened to him composing growing up, show after show after show. And so it was really, you know, I knew from a very early age, this is what I want to do. I was belting tomorrow as young as three years old.

And my dad was always like, she's got a vibrato. She's got a bravo. She's got a bra. And she's only three. And so they were so supportive of me and always my champions. And so it was just decided at a very young age. This is it. This is all I will do.

This is all I will ever do. It's great. I mean, it's good to know at a young age. I sometimes feel like at least we had that going for us that we all kind of decided. Yeah. But then you start doing it. And you're kind of like, oh, gosh, like I could have done anything. anything else. My place is a beautiful theater? Okay. Did you have neighbors that lived so close that

maybe they didn't love the vibrato as much as your father? Well, thankfully, I grew up in Bucks County. I lived in a home now. I mean, I have paper thin walls. I feel so bad for whoever lives next to me. But you know what? They have dogs and I can hear everything. So you know, it's give and take. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Hero Bread. Hey, Bashi. Hey, Sufi. You know what, as we move into the summer, we are a big taco family in the summers. You know, it's just like we put the fixings out and we let the kids make their own tacos.

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But to me, it felt like, you know, fine quality dining. But really, I just got sesame chicken fingers. I was at eight years old and would see a Broadway show. And to me, that was, like, the most luxurious experience of my lifetime. And then I went to school and I majored for musical theater at this place called Cincinnati College Conservatory. And it's basically a musical theater factory. It turns out people that, you know, just go right onto Broadway. And it took me a second.

But I would say after about three years of hustling and auditioning and working at Ellen Stardis Diner, a singing diner in Times Square right near Rockefeller Center, I finally booked South Pacific at like 25 or 26. And then I did 10 years back to back of Broadway shows, 10 years. And it was incredible, but also I think I realized, and I don't know if this has happened for the two of you, but I realized that there were dreams beyond just theater. And it was only when I was doing it consistently and actually very successful in it that I thought to myself, there has to be something else. There has to be something more than this.

I could do this for the rest of my life, but I don't think I'll ever grow. as a human being. And that was a really, I don't know, it was a really weird thing because it was all I ever wanted. And then when I was doing it, I was like, I want something different. I want something more. Yeah. And so how did, how did that manifest itself? Like, what adjustment did you make when that, when you have that conclusion? I gave, well, the adjustment was I gave it all up. And I moved to Los Angeles. After 10 years of doing theater back to back, I had realized in my 20s that I wanted to be a writer. And I wanted to have some sort of authority over my career. Because in musical theater, you know, you are plugged into kind of a cog and you're doing the same thing over and over and over again. And I realized that I just wanted to do something different. I wanted to have a lifestyle that wasn't eight shows a week and no holidays and no weekends. Not that Broadway isn't incredible. It is. But I just thought, you know, I could do this forever.

And I feel like I would be in a kind of a vortex or a cycle every single day. So I gave everything up at 30 and I moved to L.A. thinking it would be so easy for me to be a TV writer and be stuck on a show. and develop shows. And I went on that cycle and let me tell you, it is so much harder than being an actor because I was getting things up the hill, I was pitching shows,

I was being interviewed as staff on shows, and everything fell apart, everything. I couldn't sell a show, I couldn't get staffed, and I just was in development hell on TV shows and movies year after year after year, and something would get so close and then fall apart. And then in the midst of that,

You know, I lose all my money that I saved up from New York. I, you know, lose my friends. I lose my connections in New York. I lost my home in L.A. at one point. Like, I went from literally, you know, Broadway to bust in L.A. for a decade. And that's where Titanic was ironically born and bred was at my lowest point. But, you know, it does come, right? Like, writing does, like, sort of bring you back.

So it's an interesting journey that you are, you have a hand in your own success with help of a pen. because you guys, you sort of developed this, like, incredibly unique show for those who haven't seen. It's basically, I mean, I don't want to get it, say it in a way that seems amphisted, but it's safe to say it's a retelling of the Titanic story from Celine Dion's perspective. Correct. Using her songs, you are just hilarious.

Thank you. In the lead role, and it must have been so fun as you were developing it, knowing you were coming up with the part that, you know, was perfect for you. Well, thank you. Thank you. It took a lot of work when they when yeah, so I, I, um, I lost everything. I wound up working in a dinner theater in Los Angeles. I mean, talk about Broadway to bust. It was like $75 a show at this dinner theater and they gave you a group meal. So I got fed at least with like a disgusting fish and they would give you a drink ticket after the show. So that was my payment. Oh, score. Yeah, basically food, one glass of Sauvignon Blanc and $75. And, um, this, this hub, this dinner theater was where it was kind of, it was kind of, Kind of, you know, similar to UCB, honestly. Right. You know, it was a very insular world of, like, musical theater expats that were all in L.A., that had all come to L.A. to make it after, you know, kind of succeeding in musical theater, but wanting more.

And realizing that L.A. was so much harder. And we were doing these movie to musical parodies like Scream and Devil Wars Prada, where you were kind of matching an iconic movie with a discography that made sense to the movie. So for Devil Wars Prada, it was all 90s music. For Scream, it was all, like, kind of horror, kind of campy horror songs. And so I was, I'll never forget, drunk one night on my glass of Sauvignon Blanc and Connie Rassouli, the co-writer of Titanic, said, what if we did Titanic with all Celine Dion songs because she famously did my heart will go on. And at the time, I was like, yeah, right. I was like, that'll never happen. I was so jaded and so bitter by writing in L.A.

that the last thing that I wanted to do was write something else for free. And I was like, no fucking way. Also, I don't want to play Celine Dion because I love her too much. And I don't want to ruin her. So we slept on the idea for two years. And he kept being like, we really should do this. What about Titanic with all Celine Dion songs? And I was like, no, no, no, no.

And finally, two years later, Ty Blue, the director of Titanic was like, we have to do this. We need to stop talking about it. Marla, stop being so fucking stubborn. Let's do it. And so every week, you know, it's kind of like a sketch comedy team, I would imagine. We would meet at Connie's WeHo apartment with a movie theater inside of it. We would meet in the movie theater where we watched the, movie and we started just writing it for fun so fun it's really yeah yeah that's how it's that started uh all right

so uh when you're you have two siblings i have two younger sisters yes okay gotcha and then how much younger uh then you are they uh i am the uh one is three and a half years younger and one is eight years younger now i'm the oldest but they treat me like i am the youngest they treat me like i am an invalid So they're not in musical theater maybe? No. So my middle sister, Lisa, she did go to the same college. She went to see him as well. And then very quickly realized that she was way too smart for this business.

And she's now the owner of a, she's a financial advisor and owns her own company in Beverly Hills. Oh, my God. And Olivia, the youngest, famously never wanted anything to do with it, which honestly I love. So I'm the only one that still does it. And I think it's probably because it's such a transient kind of bizarre business. That's probably why they treat me like I'm the youngest because, like, I never know when my next job is going to be. And they always have consistent jobs. And when you guys were all young, I mean, eight years is a pretty big gap, but were you guys close as sisters?

Lisa and I hated each other. I was, I tormented her. I don't know what your relationship was like, but I tormented. Pretty good. I was awful to her. We would get in fights. Like, my parents could not take us anywhere because we would get in screaming matches. Like, we famously were mortal enemies.

And then something shifted around high school where we became really, really close. And Olivia and I, you know, there's an eight-year difference. So I was already gone by the time. She was, you know, young enough or old enough to even remember me. And so your upbringing were you guys, the kind of family? Did you go places? Was there, do you remember any trips where it was all five of you? We didn't, you know what?

We're not an adventurous family. Like, my father is also, like, my father is a child, love him to death. but like you have to treat him like a child. And so we like we weren't hiking or doing anything like that. We went to Disney World when I was 20 years old and that was like the biggest thing that we had done together. And we went, you know, to Maine. But there was, we were never like traveling across the seas. And I think a part of the reason is that my father was an aspiring composer at the time. And so that was really our lives. Our lives were focused around his projects, which were all very specific to New York. And so, you know, I feel like later, in life now that Titanic has gone all over the world. It's been really interesting. We have been traveling a lot more as a family for this once in a lifetime kind of thing. But when I was a child, no, we really, we did a little bit, but we, you know, we weren't going to the Grand Canyon and going down the canyon and going back up. Like, there are families that do that kind of stuff,

and I'm like, I don't even know what that's like. I don't know how to pitch a tent or anything like that. And you couldn't pay me to do it. So what were you doing in Maine? Like, what was the draw for Maine? It is vacation land. Yeah. We would. We would go to Long Beach Island with my, with my uncle and aunt and my cousins. So that was like a big thing. We would go to LBI. We would go to Love Ladies, which was like the fancy part of Long Beach Island. And I remember that being like a big thing.

We would have this huge house for a week. And we would just play on the beach every single day. And the same with Maine. A lot of it was like trips with my uncle and aunt and cousins as well. And, you know, we were all around the same age. So I can't even imagine. Now all my cousins have children. And there's like 10 kids running around at family events.

and I'm like, God, my parents, I don't know how my parents did that. Were your aunts and uncles? Did they also live in Bucks County? Were they nearby? Yeah, they were nearby. They were in Elkins Park, Pennsylvania. And now they've all moved to around the D.C. area. But yeah, we were all nearby.

My grandfather was nearby. He was about like a five-minute drive. So there was one point where, you know, I had a huge, I had a huge family. I had cousins and second cousins. And we would all kind of congregate in these big kind of family trips on the beach. That was really, like, specific to our family. because it's probably the only thing that we could really do is all come together and like go rot on a beach. Like anything beyond that was probably too much for us.

Was it your mom's side or dad's side? My dad's side. Okay. My dad's side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so now his side, like my uncle and his children, they're all doctors. And like they all have stable jobs and stable lives. But my family were, we were all the artists.

And so very, very different lifestyles, very different. Yeah. Do you think they look askance at your family? your nuclear family? Maybe they did. I mean, thank God. Thank God you just performed at the Tonys. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. I don't think that they've been a chance now. I think that everyone, you know, it's very funny when you're on the Tonys, it becomes this is your life. And so like every ex-boyfriend, ex-girlfriend from like 20 years ago, people from my high school,

everyone's coming out of the woodwork. And that's been really special. Yeah. And also, I don't know if this happened for you, but like I also imagine that you were incredibly talented for a high schooler. that they all saw and used somebody who this should happen for. They must all be so proud on your behalf.

Yeah. I think so. I mean, I was, yes, in high school and college, you know, it was really like, for me, it was Broadway robust and it was all I trained for. So, but, you know, it's so interesting that I did it in my 20s, and then I literally left it all in my 30s. And I was like, I don't want anything to do with this. I don't want anything to do with music.

theater. It's too hard for me. I don't want to be on stage eight times a week. It's very ironic that I went to L.A. to pursue writing, but I'm actually back in New York doing the thing that I, that I originally loved, which is weird. Yeah. They were like, you can't shake us. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. When you took those beach vacations, if you're on the beach, are you guys gamers? Are you just sort of lay around and get tanners? What's your... Definitely not get tanners. I mean, look at me. I'm white as a boat. I'm. I'm like, I'm Yeah. Yeah. We were not game. We would just kind of lie around. You know what's so interesting is when I was a child, I actually hated the beach too. I was like, why do people do this? Like this is. I still feel that way. I still feel that way. Yeah. Something switched in my, something switched. Oh, so you like it now. I love it. Oh, that's great. If I don't get to a beach every six months, I feel like I will spontaneously combust. That's great. And so you, we've established that you're not doing anything active. Are you a beach? Is that something you will do?

Beach, yeah, I'm a beach reader. I'm honestly a beach rotter. Like, I want to go, I will go into the ocean. I go to an island every six months, and I want to be in a hot body of water, and I literally want to lie there like Jesus Christ for hours in the ocean. Yeah. Like, I don't, if a shark eats me, so be it. I don't care.

I think that the ocean is healing and restorative. And so, yeah, like, I have a club with my two friends. We're called Island Girls. And every six months, we try to go to a different tropical island. Now, do you have any desire to, like, snorkel or scuba or you just want to be looking up at the sun? I snorkel, yes. You know, once you start doing it on every island, you're like, should I go to an island and snorkel again? So I've done a lot of the adventurous things.

I've become way more adventurous now than I was as a child. And so I've snorkeled, I've scubaed, I've ziplined, like, I've done all of it. I've paraciled and I love it. I've just-ed. So you've paraciled multiple times, and you've, you've paracled multiple times, and you've, You would do it again? Only once. Okay.

Yeah. I feel very strongly that's a one time for everybody. Yes, a one time thing. I'm still at zero. I'm still, I don't know. Oh, really? I believe I'm at zero. Yeah.

I feel like that's weird that you didn't do it on the day I did it. Yeah, I don't know. I can't recall it if we did it. You're very, I think the minute you get up on a parasail, you're like, okay, this is a little bit of a scam. That's how I felt with a zip line, too. I was like, this is how I'm going to die. Josh almost did.

I did. I fell out of a zipline in Mexico and broke my leg and my back and my jaw. So if you're in Zaywatanah, between Zeyw and Xtapa, maybe skip that route's course. If you see the discount zip line course that my frugal brother decided to do. Hard pass. I'm so sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's okay.

You'll never paracel or never ever again. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you never quite know. Thankfully, I've been lucky and blessed. But, yeah, you get up there and you're like, well, this could be it. You mentioned the travel for Titanic. What was, was that you performing it all over the world? Was this something that happened sort of between off-B and Broadway and Broadway? Yeah, so we had a really interesting trajectory.

We started at old UCB, which is now famously demolished. Right. This is the one under Gristides? Under Gristides, yeah. Yeah, that's incredible. So it was not UCB. When we started, it was called the Asylum. Oh, wow.

And it really was an asylum. It was like, you know, kind of an insane asylum where it was, they were still doing musicals and then live comedy. So we would have to pack up the set in my dressing room. And at the same time, they're buying the building and they're going to condemn the building. So first they shut down Gristides. So all the rats from Gristides come down to the basement.

And they're all running around the set. And then the trash juice from Gristides, because obviously, like, they're getting rid of stuff and it's all just, I guess, fermented up there was leaking. on us while I'm performing. Anyway, but the show becomes a huge hit in Gristides. We then moved to the Daryl Roth, which is where Fuerza Bruta used to be. And we lived there for about three years. How many seats is that?

So that's about 250 seats. And the asylum was 199. Okay, great. It was tiny. So you upgrade, it's a nicer theater. There's no juice. There's less rats. There's no physical structure in New York that has zero rats.

Yeah, exactly. No juice. There were probably Jews. to see. Yeah, exactly. A lot of Jews. A lot of supporting theater. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then from there, we start going all over the world. And so that was really interesting because typically it's the opposite. You go to Broadway, then you go all over the world. Sure. So we started in Sydney, Australia. Then we went to Paris, Canada. I'm missing Chicago. We went to Brazil. And what was the longest run you would do in one of those places?

Well, I, so I actually didn't do it. Okay, gotcha. We also went to London, L-O-L-L. And we're still in London right now. So basically, that was interesting for a multitude of reasons. So all these countries have their own version of their beautiful theater star. Gotcha. And so, like, when we went to Brazil, they were like, we have the Patti Lipone of Brazil.

And she's got, like, so many followers. And she's so huge. But, you know, obviously we don't know her because we are in a different country. It's so fascinating. So, yeah, so in all of those other countries, they had their own version. So I would show up on opening night, and it was actually amazing. I would show up on opening night and be there and watch the show, and it would be so surreal. And then I would get to explore the country.

Oh, wow. So, yeah, so I've gotten to go to all these places and, like, and see the world. How exciting is it when you watch something that was so specifically written for sort of a New York audience? when it works in another country. Is it just like goosebumps-inducing? Yeah, I'm kind of like, wow, I'm like, are we geniuses? Like, this is crazy. Because you never know how something is going to land.

Of course. Like something can be successful in New York, but it can't be successful. Or it's too, it's specific to New Yorkers. And that's originally what we thought Titanic was going to be is like a small kind of, it's a small kind of weird idea. And what I learned is that the comedy that we've written is, universal and the laughter is universal. And so I went to go see it in Brazil and it was in Portuguese and it was the first ever time that it was in a different language. And I could still hear the

laughter on the same jokes that we had written, you know, even though I didn't understand their language, I could still, I still, I know the script so well that I was like, wow, they're still laughing in all the places that they were laughing in New York and London and Paris. Yeah. So that has been truly special. And you know what's been great about it too is that they're a very specific regional jokes to Titanic. Like we make a huge bit out of Jared's, the jewelry company here. And so that's different. So in London, it's Costco.

And in Brazil, it's something else. And in Paris, it's something else. And so, you know, we have to update every time they do a new production of it, we have to approve all these new kind of regional specific jokes. And so they take the first pass on the regional specificity? And then they sort of talk it down with you and like, this is what we think

this is? That's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we have to, like, approve every script. So it's going to the Netherlands in October. So, yeah, every time it goes somewhere, and now it's going into Montreal again in French. So we have to basically look at their translation and then the back translation, which is very fascinating. Because you'll read something and it's like, it makes sense in their language and then you read the back translation. And it's a completely different scantion. It's so bizarre.

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that feels like criminal. And I just loved London. But they've all been so special. Like, you know, I never thought I would have gone to Sao Paulo. And the cast is taking us around and taking us to Soho House and Sao Paulo. And it's just been such an incredible experience because you get to meet the cast as well. And then they, you know, they take you or they recommend all the great places. So it's like you really getting to see it like as a local too.

So it's been phenomenal everywhere we go. And I try to go to every country because I just know that like, you know, one of the things that's great about is that they fly me out and they have to put me up in the hotel for a couple of days. And so it's, I get like a little bit of a free trip. Yeah, you can't turn it down. I don't want to turn it down. I really, really don't. Have you ever had to sort of have an understudy play your part because you were traveling for a show or was that this, you have not, on Broadway, I assume, you would not leave to travel while you're doing.

I mean, it's opening. I think it's, the Montreal production is opening today or tomorrow and I really wanted to go. But it was right after Tony's. Yeah. But I do have under, I do have understudies. Have I traveled to, no, I think I've been lucky enough that our show has been closed when I've traveled to see a different iteration of Titanic. But, you know, if it came up, like if we're still playing in the fall and Amsterdam happens, the opening of Titanic in Amsterdam happens, I definitely want to go to that. I wonder what theaters playing.

If I'm not going to go to a beach, like I'm going to go to Amsterdam. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Have you, I mean, it sounds so decadent. I know that like you're a performer and you want to perform, but to be able to go somewhere and just see a show that you created and then be cut free. We've talked to so many people whose families have traveled with them when they're shooting something

or when they're doing a show somewhere, but then that person then has to do a show while their family is there and you have to find off time to go away. But it sounds like you have off time after night number one. So has your family come with you on these trips? Have you? Yes. Yes. And that's big because my mother is the kind of, I don't know what your mother's like,

but if the flight is at 5 p.m. on a Thursday, she'll show up 72 hours in advance. And like, you know what I mean? Like she's so stressed the whole time. She can't sleep. So getting her out of the country is like a victory. And she also has to deal with my dad, who I love, but he's, again, like a child and like slightly deaf. It's like putting my, we need a leash for my dad because he can't really hear anything. But, but my dad was like, this is so, they, they weren't going to go to Paris. They came to London to see the opening at the criterion, which was incredible, because it was a statue of me, a 20-foot statue of me. I look like Jesus Christ about Piccadilly Circus. And then they weren't going to go to Paris, and my dad was like, it's too special,

Rita, my mom. We was like, we have to go. And this is like, it's like a wedding. And, you know, we haven't really traveled all that much in our lifetime. So, like, let's do this and let's go spend time. And it's incredible because my grandmother was Belgian, so my dad knows French. So when we were there in Paris. He was speaking to everyone and could translate for us. And so that just felt so special. And it does feel incredible to not have to have the pressure of doing the show. When you are doing a show, it is eight times a week. It is, you are an athletic, you are an Olympian. It is, and the older I get, the harder it gets, it's exhausting. Yeah. The whole day you're worried about, oh, do I have the voice for it? Oh, I have a cold. Oh, what's the weather like? There's so much

stress about getting there and giving your all. And for Typhanique and singing Celine Dion songs, there is no such thing as 75%. There is no such thing as marking. I have to be 150% and my voice has to be phenomenal. So I love going to a different country and just watching it and then being released to do whatever the hell I want. And so, and doing it with my family is even more special. Yeah. Any favorite spots or experiences that you've done with your family on any of these trips, sort of a specific in Paris or anywhere in the world, really? Well, with my family, we're such foodies. So we went to, so on belly eats, you know, like, on belly eats, the number one ready

restaurant in the entire world was in Paris. And it was called La Renoumet, which is a very, very fancy restaurant. And so I made sure that on the first day that we were there in Paris, that we had a nice meal because my family loves a good meal. Yeah. It was incredible and it felt so, so, so special. And we were just there and we cheers to the show. And so that felt really great.

But then also, you know, we were walking around the La Maree district and just to be there with them and going to see museums together. I feel, especially as I get older and my parents get older and I realize that, you know, that there's, you know, hopefully many more years left, but there also can't, could not be. It just feels so special to be able to travel with my parents. Yeah. It's very, very cool. I am glad to hear it was good. Sometimes I think if you go to like one of those top rated fancy restaurants, they can be a little too fancy.

I know. But this was a great meal. Okay, good. This one was, it was perfect. The same people have the restaurant for Charles Prime here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's impossible to get in. I mean, I immediately changed my tune.

I know. Perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was the same thing. Yeah. And then you're obviously being at the theater. The theater there is called the Lido Lido. And why the Lido is so special is because they have a water fountain. They have a whole water

feature in the theater itself. So when we went to go see Titanic and the Selindian on there starts singing, My Heart will go on. There was like a Disney like water fountain behind her. And I was like, this is so fucking trippy. I was in what theater has like water coming out from the floor like that? Anyway, that was really special. In terms of touring shows, a lot of shows like, you know, Second City famously would do cruise ships. Now, Titanic would be both a perfect fit and the worst possible fit for a cruise ship. Has it ever been performed on a ship? Or is it? No, but I'm waiting. And if anyone's watching this, that works for the word, do you mean, call me? Yeah. It's one of those things. I feel like you

should, I mean, it's not like the secrets out on what happened on the Titanic. Yeah, exactly. People are getting on a cruise. You know what I mean? Like, they know it can happen. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it would be very funny either way. Do you, when you were young, and you would go to New York to see Broadway shows. Was it always just you and your dad, or did your sister come? Did your mom come? Yeah, sometimes the whole family would come, but my dad made it like a special thing for,

he would take me or he would take Lisa, my middle sister. They went to go see Big. We saw, I mean, he was taking me to see things like, very obscure, like Big River as early as three years old, and I was dead silent. I would, like, be so silent, I would just be transfixed. And we saw Most Happy Fellow together. and I remember just weeping.

I remember having these spiritual experiences. And I thought it was so special to be doing it with my dad. He would always go to Sam's and I would get Sesame Chicken Fingers, which felt like, you know, a rib eye to me. But it was probably like shitty chicken fingers. That's still my ribeye? Yeah, no, honestly. Yeah. Seth is chicken fingers is almost his middle name.

Yeah. Oh, really? Me too. Yeah. That's all I ate as a child. Do you know that they claim this is a question? for Josh now, that chicken fingers were invented in Manchester, New Hampshire, which is like at the Puritan backroom?

I guess so. I don't know. I mean, I did not know we grew up in the cradle of chicken fingers. I just came by it naturally. Did you also know that chickens don't have fingers necessarily? Don't. You know what? We think about it.

This is like, you basically just told me like the earth is flat. Get out of Dodge. They wouldn't call them chicken fingers if they didn't have fingers. Would, on your Disney trip, were you, I mean, just I, I sort of naturally think there's a connection between musical theater and Disney. Were you a Disney kid? No, actually. That's why I found it so funny that we all, I'm, well, yes, but I wasn't like a Disney World. Like, you know how they're a Disney World fanatics?

Yeah, yeah. I wasn't that, but oh, yeah. I mean, I saw Little Mermaid in the theater six times. Yeah. And I would stop, yeah. So I grew up on all of those songs. and all of those movies. But, you know, in terms of, like, going to Disney World, like, that was really foreign.

And my family, you know, listen, I love them to death, but you know what it's like going on any sort of trip with your family. You have 72 hours with them before one of you gets out a bazooka gun and tries to take the other down. Yeah, yeah. And that was at the beach trips, too. I literally, there was one moment in time where my sister Lisa called me, she kept screaming sand penis over and over again because I got sand trapped in my bathing suit.

And it made me look like I had a peathing. And I chased her down on the beach and I tried to strangle her. Yeah. And it was like, that's crazy. I tried to kill my own sister in Long Beach Island. So that's what the dynamics of my family were just all loud juice. I will say if my, I've got three kids. If one of them said San penis, I think there'd be a strangling as well.

Oh, yeah. They're at the age where that's just, that's just triggering. Yeah, it was a trigger word. Yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not okay. Yeah, TW San penis. Yeah. And Disney for the first.

time you said you were 20 when you went yeah i was i was 20 yeah so that's like also a sort of strange time to be at a place also with a 12 year old sister i know at the time so were you going into that eyes wide open excited or were you a bit sort of a jaded 20 year old like i'm this is for kids no it would you know what i remember that my family we actually you know obviously we we spat here and there, but we, we did really well. We had a really good time. We, like, I'll never forget, we went to a photo booth together and we all took, like, funny, but I just remember laughing a lot with my family. And we're all such comedians, and we all kind of tease each other and have such self-deprecating senses of humor. I credit a lot of my own humor to how my family kind of

interacts with each other. And I think that that humor was then translated into Titanic. So I'm, I remember that trip very fondly. I remember a lot more fondly than trying to strangle my sister. on the beach. That's for sure. Where did you stay at Disney? Were you at a Disney hotel? Yeah, one of the Disney hotels. Ironically, I had gone two years later. So it was, or no, in my, in my 20s, when Hurricane Katrina happened, I was supposed to go with my friends. And the entire, because of Hurricane Katrina, there was no one in the parks. It was like an apocalyptic park. And I remember being able, I haven't been back to Disney since because I went on every ride twice. It was like the park was at my disposal. And I was like, well, it's never going to get better than.

this. Right. So I haven't been back since. Yeah. Did what was, the first time your family member saw Titanic, was it in the UCB space? Was it at the asylum?

No, it was actually, so it started, Titanic started in Los Angeles. Oh. We were playing a lot of the, yeah, so we were doing a lot of pop-up readings in Los Angeles at,

like the Dynasty typewriter, which is a very famous kind of pretty place. And the Wallace Annenberg, which is a theater in Beverly Hills, and, you know, an 100-degree dance studio where Abby Lee Miller would do her dance studios. I mean, it was like, we didn't have any money.

So it started in these, you know, kind of, I would say groundlings or UCB type fashion where you kind of put everything on a credit card. I bought a wig on Hollywood Boulevard. Connie was making props from Michaels. And we would do these one-offs and kind of gain this cult following. So it wasn't until we went to New York and we did a week-long, like, presentation or readings, at this place called Green Room 42, which is kind of a theatrical space. where you can put on readings or concerts, that's where we attracted producers.

That's where people started being like, oh, my God, this is really legitimate. But we had spent two to three years developing it in L.A. prior, which was crazy. Yeah. But my family came, my family came and, you know, my father, who obviously writes for a living, and he knows the craft of theater. And, you know, the biggest indicator is the audience. You could think that you've written the funniest line or the best song in the world. And if the audience is dead, it's like SNL.

It's the same exact thing. If they're not reacting, then sorry, it's just not good enough. So my dad, when he was there, he was like, I've never heard laughter like this before of any show in my life. And that's how I feel, too, performing it in eight times a week. I've never been a part of a Broadway show. I've never seen a Broadway show where people are laughing harder than at Titanic. That's great. What an accomplishment.

Yeah, thanks. Congrats on everything. Before we let you go, though, Josh is going to hit you with our speed round. Oh, God. I'm scared of Josh. No, you'll do well. You'll do well. We can tell.

Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Relaxing. I think we all knew that. Yeah, easy. Yeah. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional,

other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? The Sopranos. Great. You guess, you know what? Something, someone would actually die. Yeah. They would, if you, if you told Tony, he had a sand penis, somebody's going down.

You know what, Tony, I don't like this hotel room. Get me a better one. It would happen. We get a sweet. What is your favorite means of transportation? Means of transportation. Oh, my God. Well, I don't know.

I guess not. First class. L.O. first class. That's pretty nice. I've started doing that. Yeah, they have to fly me first class. And I'm like, now they've had to fly me first class.

And I'm like, now that I've had this, I can never go back. Nope. Very hard. Very hard to go back. Yeah. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My sister, Lisa. My sister Lisa, the financial advisor.

Gotcha. She'd have money tucked away and she's also very resourceful. That's great. Hopefully my father would be last on the list. He would get us killed. Well, he's a child. Yeah, he's a child. You can't have an old child on a beach on an island.

Yeah, exactly. You are from, what is your dream destination for a family? family vacation. Oh, well, I'll just speak for myself. Like, you know, I'm an island girlie, and I want to go to Bora Bora. I want to be one of those huts, one of those $10,000 Marriott huts where you just jump into the ocean. Yeah, they look nice. I know the huts and good choice. You are from Yardley, Pennsylvania, is that correct? If you were the head of the Board of Tourism at Yardley and Yardley and had to get more families to come visit your town, how would you pitch that town? How would I pitch Yardley, Pennsylvania?

Yeah. We've got the best fire hydrant in town. We got the best, like, fired. Oh, you know what? We have the best bakery. We have the best bakery in town, Kramer's Bakery. All right. Yeah.

Because I'm, again, such a foody person, you got to come. You got to try the cupcakes. But also, yeah. What's her face? Gigi Hadid. Okay. Her mother. Her mother lives famously in Yardley.

Oh, great. So if we have the Hadid's, we can get anyone. Real quick. Tell me a little bit more about this fire hydrant. Now, there's just, we have like one strip in downtown Yardley. It's like one tiny little strip, but it's so quaint. And there's like a beautiful fire company. And because it's, you know, it's so funny.

I live in New York. I live 90 minutes away from Yardley, but it's like the most beautiful. I spent time there in the pandemic. And I was like, I would absolutely, I wanted to get out of here when I lived here as a child, but I would go back. I want to buy my parents home. That would be ideal. And then I can have that as a second home.

It's just the most charming, quaint, colonial town. And there's just one tiny little strip where like all the food is questionable, but it looks so cute. Yeah. Do you think your parents would give you a good deal on that house? Or would they break over? No, honestly, they didn't so much that I would love to like buy it over asking. I'd be like, here's $2 million for your home. Also now go live somewhere else because I'll live here now.

Yeah, it's mine now. Seth, those are our final questions. I know the answer based on what you said earlier, which was have you been to the Grand Canyon? And it's definitely a no. No, we actually did go to the Grand Canyon. Okay, great. We visited, we just looked. Okay, gotcha.

I feel like there are families that do that trek where you go all the way down and down. Yeah, you just did a look. Yeah, we just did a look. Was the look worth it? It was worth it. And so worth it that I think to myself, God, I really need to get back there. Okay, great. All right.

All right, that was an unexpected answer. Thank you. What a cool time to get to talk to you, Marla. Likewise. Congratulations. And break a leg tonight, your first time back on stage? I need it. I need it.

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