Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - NAT FAXON Is From Manchester “ON” The Sea

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

This week Seth and Josh welcome Nat Faxon to the podcast! Nat talks all about living in Manchester-by-the-Sea (Sorry Seth, not “on” the sea), his time at boarding school, learning life lessons the hard way at ski school, and what he calls the “Ibiza of the Alps” — relax… if you can. He also shares memories from Singing Beach, memories from filming The Descendants and The Way Way Back, and more! Plus, Nat chats about his hit Apple TV+ series Loot, out now! Ka'Chava Go to https://kachava.com and use code TRIPS for 15% off your first order. BluelandBlueland has a special offer for listeners. Right now, get 15% off your first order by going to https://Blueland.com/TRIPS IQ BarIQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners twenty percent off all IQBAR products—including the Ultimate sampler pack—plus FREE shipping. To get your twenty percent off, text TRIPS to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. Marley SpoonThis new year, fast-track your way to eating well with Marley Spoon. Head to https://MarleySpoon.com/offer/trips for 45% off your first order and free delivery. Mint MobileReady to stop paying more than you have to? New customers can make the switch today and for a limited time, get unlimited premium wireless for just $15 per month. Switch now at https://MINTMOBILE.com/TRIPSUpfront payment of: $45 for 3-months, $90 for 6-months, or $180 for 12-month plan required ($15/month equivalent.). Taxes & fees extra. Initial plan term only. Over 50GB may slow when network is busy. Capable device required. Availability, speed, & coverage varies. Additional terms apply. See https://mintmobile.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Baji. Hey, Sufi. How are you? I'm good. That's wonderful. I'm back from Mammoth once again. It is so cold on the East Coast. Oh, yeah. It is so very, very cold. Yeah, you've got those low numbers. Yeah. The old weather apps.

And we have, you know, our kids do a lot of stuff outside. They go to, like, a forest school, they go skiing, and it feels borderline cruel and unusual. to actually make them do those things. Are you still doing those things with them? If it's a cold day of skiing, like they have lessons. Yeah, I think it's, if it's so cold, my, I mean, I'll bring my stuff, but, you know, Addy likes to ski with me after her lesson, but I think it's so cold that I'm just going to gamble on her not wanting to.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the bummer is you have to, like, gear up, because I can't, like, put my stuff in the lodge because then when she finishes, like, there's no one, you know. I got to bring her in with me, whatever. So I'm kind of hopeful that she doesn't want him. But at the same time, like, if Addie wants to ski after her lesson,

like, you have to ski with her until she's done. Like, what's the point of being, you can't be the reason you're done? You've got to wait to your kids. Which is why I was a great kid because I was always done. Because you were always done. Yeah. I respected my elders. Yeah.

And you got mom and dad coming down this weekend? I have mom and dad coming to town. And I have, because it's so cold, I feel like we've got to be inside. And I have a plan. And I really am hopeful I pull it off, which is the punk Olympics. Which is if the kids go to four or school, that means they're sort of out of the house for four hours. And I want to set up around the house like different, dumb games for the punk Olympics. Yeah.

I mean, you know, Dad will be excellent. I think maybe a decathlon. I'm kind of thinking 10 events. Yeah, that's great. Because we have like a little, we have like a little like a foldy like ski ball thing. Uh-huh. You know, we have a basket. Well, you're halfway there.

You know what game that kids have been playing, what card game been playing that we used to play? Mealborn. Oh, Mealborn, yeah. Yeah, Milborn is a French card game, which is basically about drive. It's like a driving game. Yeah, driving, you can get a flat tire. Yeah. But it's like, it's a race.

It's a race to a beautiful French landscape, I believe. To a million bournes, I think, if my French is right. Yeah, so the Pong's are coming. Kids are very excited about the Pongs coming. And, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Great. Nat Faxon's on today. Yeah.

As ironies would have it last night, I had dinner. Joel McHale was on my show, and when Joel's in town, we get dinner and with John Oliver, who was a castmate of his on community. Yeah. And then Jim Rash, who was also on community and is Netflix's writing partner. Jim Rash also, neighbor of mine. Also, Jim Rash, sneaky jacked. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, couldn't tell you that dinner. You know who's sneaky jacked. Like the most, I mean, I think maybe you'd know him down. Joel McHale. Oh, that's not sneaky. I saw Joel McHale at the, like, he did play college football. I saw Joel McHale at the last Patriots, Seahawks Super Bowl. Uh-huh.

In like the lobby of a hotel and he was coming up from the gym. And he was, you know, I think he was wearing like a sleeveless shirt. And it was so, I like couldn't like talk. Oh, yeah. We were once talking about being runners. And I was like, oh, yeah, I was like, yeah, I've done a couple marathons. He's like, yeah, yeah, I've done too. I'll go, how fast?

He goes, you don't want to know. And I go, why don't I want to know? He goes, it's going to make you feel bad. He's like, I'm really, he goes, I'm really fast. And I'm like, oh, thank you for telling me. Yeah. Yeah. Talking about not being able to talk, I went out to a friend's gallery show last night.

And McKenzie was getting home late from work. So she wasn't able to join me. And when I got home, I texted. I'm like, hey, I'm on the way. She's like, okay, I'm watching heated rival. it's crazy. And I was like, I can't believe you haven't already

watched heated rivalry. It sounds like it's like right up your alley. And when I came in, she had paused it just because I was coming in. And I was like, you can finish this.

I have to do a couple things. Like, I'm going to do some things in the kitchen and I'm going to set up for this podcast. And she's like, I can't hit play on this with you here.

She's like, it'll be like watching a sex scene with my dad. Like it's just, it's too, she's like, it's too much for me to watch with you and she wouldn't finish it. I kind of understand.

Yeah, I don't know. Also, I would be coming in completely, you know, nothing had ramped up. And as you told me about this show as well, nothing does ramp up, it just happens. But, yeah, she wouldn't hit play. Yeah, I don't blame her. Lexi watched it independent of me.

I had watched five of the six episodes because Connor story was coming on. And then I just didn't have time for the six. And she was like, I'll watch the six with you. I'll rewatch it. And I'm like, I want to do that. I want to do that. What a fascinating thing, though.

There's a school concert today. I'm going to bust out and go to. And Ash, I guess, is introducing it. I guess they rotate around because it's like sort of called this community period. Yeah. Ash is not, I don't know, of all my kids, he would be the one I would think would have the most hesitation.

And I guess they offer to the kids, like, you don't have to do it. It's your turn. Yeah. And he was like, no, I want to do it. Oh, that's great. Yeah. And then he goes, I want to dress fancy.

And I'm like, all right, man. Like, do you want to wear a blue button up? He's like, yeah. I'm like, great. So I put it on it. And then he's so slow. So I came downstairs to feed the other two. And then he came down, he goes, this is too fancy.

And it's like literally. just like a blue button up. You think it's too fancy? He's like, yeah, it's just too fancy. So he's wearing a navy blue sweater. He's basically dressed away. I'm always dressed. Yeah, that's great.

I mean, also, if it's cold out, you don't want that sweater instead of a button up. And there's a real problem in our house that I get blamed for, which is Axel wants to wear his Steeler jersey twice a week. And we told him he could only wear it once a week. And he's pretty bummed about it. And then even today goes, I didn't wear out yesterday. And Alexi's out of town, so he, like, you know, the lies through the roof.

He's like, I didn't wear yesterday. And then I'm like, Addy was like, he did wear it yesterday. She sold him out? They both did. They're like, he wore it. I think they're both like, yeah, man, he can't, he's not a football player. He can't wear that jersey every day. Do you think that after football season, he'll dial it back?

Or do you think this is going to be? No. Okay. Is this short answer? They also now, they're playing flag football at school. Oh, yeah. So I think, like, if anything, his love of football is going out. That's fun.

They also want to throw this little football around in our little apartment. Oh, that's problematic. Oh. And I'm just, they won't stop. And I'm like, this is like bad parenting. I'm like, all right, when something breaks, it's over. They're like, all right. No kids are going to be like, oh, then we should stop before we.

break a thing. Yeah. Well, good luck. Hey, I ask you, I've talked about this on my other podcast, so I apologize for anybody listening to both. But did you see the Heath Ledger movie Night's Tale back in the day? No, but Liz Kikowsky was just talking to me about it because I was talking about Lance a lot. And she brought that up, but we were just talking about it.

And then she sent me. She was like, I think it was this. Or no, she was talking about First Night. Oh, right. And I was like, is that Heath Ledger? But I don't recall if I've seen Night's Tale. A lot of listeners on the Lonely Island podcast are like, oh, it's awesome. You got to watch it.

And I think I might try to watch it because I bet Mom and Dad haven't seen it. It's like 2000. It's like a Knights movie. You know what else I really like is that new Game of Thrones? Oh, I haven't started it. It's like half-hour episodes. And it's kind of. And it's really like

in that way that I'm like, oh, thank God. Because like House of Dragon. Again, I love the Game of Thrones world. House of Dragon, I'm like, what's, can somebody give me the family tree again? Who are these people? Like, if I take like an extra day to watch it, I'm like, what's going on? Whereas this is just like about a little, a dude wants to be a night and his little squire. It's just like, hey.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like a buddy cop movie. Yeah, no, we're definitely going to get into it. We're finishing up some other things first. We're trying to go bit by bit. All right. Well, this is a love of the conversation with Nafaxon,

who's probably flying high right now because of the old fucking patriots, congratulations on your... It's been a long time since you've been to the Super Bowl. Jeez, Louise. Yeah, he's got season three of Lute coming out. Yeah. Might know him from directing the way, way back, downhill.

What an Oscar? Yeah, for writing the descendants. That's right. If you remember, there was a moment with him, his writing partner, Jim Rash, were on stage and Angelina Jolie. And Angelina Jolie had her leg cocked out to the side. It was like clearly what you do in that dress. And then it was so funny to have Nat Fax and Jim Rash behind her. And one of them cocked their leg the exact same way.

And then the other one did. And it's a really fun moment from the Oscars that always sticks in my brain. All right. Enjoy the conversation. Thanks for listening, everybody. Family chips, brothers. Play chips. What's up, dude?

There we are. What's up, guys? How are you, brother? It's very nice to talk to a fellow New Englander. Right in our age zone. Right? I mean. It's real good.

And the Patriots are winning? Well, now we have to jump in and burst your bubble. Yeah, we're not. Oh, no. We don't care. for the Patriots. I hate the Patriots more than any team in sports. Okay, how do I end?

I end this by the end, right? Just be a good winner. I'm allowed to be a bad loser. You have to be a good winner. End session now. Our dad's from Pittsburgh, so we're Steelers fans. But love the Celtics, love the Red Sox. Okay.

But the Patriots is just, and no one dislikes the Patriots more than our mother, who is just like, Sending texts. Who's the truest New Englander of the four of us, because we weren't born in New England, but she's from Marblehead. Oh, that's like right around the corner from where I grew up. What town are you from, technically? Well, I lived in Marblehead until I was four.

Oh, wow. And then I moved to Manchester, which then became Manchester by the Sea, Massachusetts. Yeah. And if you've seen the movie, only fun, wonderful things happen. So wait, was it really not called... When you moved there, it wasn't called Manchester by the Sea? No, it was just... Manchester. And then there was like, during my childhood, there was like this huge vote,

like town vote on whether to change the name from Manchester, Manchester by the sea. And it was like razor thin margin. I mean, it was like 51% to 49% that it passed. And people, like there was like signs on the, you know, the big brown supermarket, you know, like vote no on name change. It's amazing that a simple majority could change the name of a town. That seems like something that would need a two-thirds. I know, I know. I think they were, they were like really, they just, I don't know, they thought maybe the tourism would go of.

They wanted to sort of disassociate themselves from, no offense, Manchester, New Hampshire. Sure. Yeah. That's where we went to high school, so there you go. Yeah, so. That's crazy. Do you remember what side your parents were on? Because I imagine they got a vote.

They got a vote. I think they were a little, they were slightly indifferent. I think they probably leaned more towards just keeping in Manchester just to because, you know, every time you have to say Manchester by the sea, a little piece of you dies inside. Well, they also burned you. Like the movie then burned you by making the saddest movie of the last 20 years. And I will be honest, I don't think I, if you hadn't changed it,

they wouldn't have called the movie that. That's true. That's true. But I think also that the movie didn't totally reflect. like it's, I wouldn't say it's like that blue collar mass town that like the movie is trying to depict it as, you know? Yeah. Right. I mean, there's certain elements of Manchester that are, but there are also some very like nice,

you know, upper class kind of sections of it that. Well, I know that's true because more than half of you wanted to add a, uh, on the sea. That's right. Yeah. You know, you know who. By the sea. Yeah. Yeah.

You could see where that. Yeah. There's not a lot of like Joe Lundi. Box is being like, I'll come the town, don't say where we're from. I don't know why I'm making New Yorkers, but. But yeah, I mean, our mother being from Marblehead, you know, we went there a lot. And that is, that's a pretty tony town as well. But you also get just the best accents.

Yeah, like the accents. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the accent makes people think, oh, this has to be more blue collar. And it's like, no, no, no. The accent just comes with the territory. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. from any sort of financial background.

Yes. It's like in the water or something. It's like you drink the water and then you get that accent. Or you live on the water maybe and then that's also what else. But you don't seem to have the accent. No, I never totally did. I mean, I didn't really ever have it. I mean, when I, I sort of fake it if I meet other like tough Boston people, I definitely fake like I have it.

Do you say wicked? I don't really say wicked. Did you, do you think, like back in high school? No, we said a lot of like, um, like when we were growing up, there was basically like two words that were always said, which were, uh, lit and hurt. And you, you were, you were either lit or you were hurt. Like, you were one or the other. That just completely missed us. Yeah, we didn't have that at all.

We had, like, lit is around now. We have, yeah. No, it was like, oh, dude, I went out last night. I got super lit. Yeah, dude, I'm hurt this morning. Oh, you got lit? Yeah, I'm hurt. We got to get lit so we're not hurt.

Like, it was just, you know, back and forth. Yeah, lit is in terms of drunk, I do recall. But lit in terms of like we went out and it was lit. Yeah, no. That was not the meaning. That was not the meaning for us. Not to bring it back to Manchester on the sea, but by the sea. I keep getting it wrong.

Is there a Manchester on the C too? We should rename our Manchester. Manchester on the river? We have a river. We do. Manchester by the sea. So we did that thing once on our show called Boston Accent, where we just did how everybody does.

And it was a lot of bro, which I felt was the way people in Boston talked. And when Casey Affleck came on the show, he goes, there's only one thing you got wrong. It should have been kid instead of bro. And I don't feel like we used kid in Manchester, New Hampshire. Do you, Josh? No, I mean, I feel like maybe the older, cooler, tougher kids would call us that. Yeah, yeah.

But this was like, a kid is like as just a nickname was never caught on. We had that a lot. Like, we did a lot of kid. It was like, what I'm kid, you know. Such great. It was awesome. Yeah, it's great. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.

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I still do. And, yeah, Kimmy, she is now in North Carolina. But, yeah, so we rocked Manchester for a while. And then we both went to boarding school, which was like the thing you did, I guess, when you grew up where I grew up. And every time I tell people that, though, they're like, oh. you had serious problems. Oh, you got sent away to boarding school.

Yeah, exactly. Like, oh, what did you do? And I was like, no, that's just sort of like what I guess I did. I didn't know better. It is true. In New England, you don't assume boarding school means crime. Right. No.

But I think everybody else does. I think they think you were like a serious fuck up as a kid. And you had to be sent away to get reformed. Were you excited? Did enough kids go that you were excited about going? Yeah, I was, though I was really young. I mean, I was, you know, I was, I had an, I have an October birthday, so I was late, like, for everything, you know, so I was 13 when I went to boarding school as a freshman in high school. And, you know, I was like, I had not gone through puberty. I was like,

this, like, high-voiced, like, child. And I think, like, I have kids now, and I think about, like, sending my kids like at that age and I'm I it's like astonishing. I'm like what were my parents thinking? I was like I was like a toddler you know I mean I just there's like you know and you're because you haven't gone through puberty and then you're around like men essentially who are like 18 and then you like go in the shower and you're like don't look at me. Would you once you went to boarding school would you go like home on weekends or were you kind of like you were there. I was kind of there.

I went to Holderness School in New Hampshire. Okay, yeah, yeah. In Plymouth. And, yeah, I would, so it was probably two-hour drive to go home or, you know, two-hour drive to get to Boston. But, I mean, you grow up quickly. Like, you, you would, you, I would, like, go with friends, like, take the bus down to Boston and, like, go to Boston for the weekend.

And then, you know, so I felt like, by the time I got to college, I was like, oh, I'm like, I'm a grown man. Like, I'm an adult. I know, like, everything and I can do everything. You know, it's like a quick education on just sort of, like, getting older and sneaking around and doing all the things you shouldn't do at an early age. Did then college just feel like, not a breeze, but like there probably was no anxiety pre-college.

Yes. None at all. I mean, I remember, like, showing up. And my, I was in a quad my freshman year. my like my my room one of my roommates was i think from natick or nahat or something and uh and he was like this big huge like football player nicest guy ever and um but was like incredibly homesick you know the first six months of school was just like in his in the room just like sad calling his parents you And I was like the first night, I was like, who's got the fake ID?

Let's get beers. Let's go. I mean, I always felt that way. I didn't know many boarding school kids in college, but that was for me every kid who was from New York at college. They were the ones who were like, what? This, you know, and we were, again, Josh and I both went to Northwestern and all the New York kids were just like, just so you guys know, this place sucks. We're like, what? This is the most freedom we've ever had.

And it's like, yeah, it sucks. and it sucks that we're here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How much older is your sister? She's two to two and a half years older. Yeah. All right, and were you guys close growing up? We were.

We're very close. Actually, today's her birthday. Happy birthday to my sister. Happy birthday, my sister. Yes, we are, yeah, we were very close and still are. It's just like, sadly, geographically, it's hard. She's in Wilmington, North Carolina, and I am in L.A., so we don't get to see each other.

as much as we would like. But no, we were very close growing up. And she also went to boarding school? She did. She went to an all-girls boarding school and then had like a terrible experience and then transferred to Holderness when I went. So we both went to Olderness.

Like I was a freshman and she went as a junior the same year. That's nice. Yeah, it was great. It was great. And we both had a terrific time there. and yeah, came out of it. Nice. Yeah.

What did your parents do? My father was a cardiologist. He's still alive, but no longer practicing. And my mother was in advertising for a while and then kind of homemaking. Homemaking? Do you say homemaking? Yeah, I think that word. You can say, yeah, homemaker.

Yeah. Yeah. And then what was your, what was a typical sort of vacation for the Faxons? We did a lot of skiing. We did a lot of ski trips. Yeah, we went to, you know, all the, all the Northeast, you know, the sugar loaf and the sugar bush and stow and, you know, even the, like, closer, like Watervale Valley and Okimo. O'Kimo was my favorite. Okina. Yeah, we loved Okiemo. Yeah, soft spot. hearts for Okiemo. Yeah. Cannon.

And then once in a while, we did, like, bigger trips to the West Coast. And, yeah, I remember one year we went with our cousins. My mom is a twin sister. And they lived in Bedford, New York. And we were very close with them growing up, like spent all our holidays and stuff, you know, going to their house or they would come to our house. And we flew out to. to Sun Valley, Idaho for like a big, you know, ski trip with the eight of us.

And somehow on the plane ride out there, we had, you know, two condos next to each other, one for the one family and one for their family. And we somehow on the plane ride convinced them that we should have a kid's condo and an adult condo. And so they, I think we're probably just like just as psyched as we were. And they're like, great. Sounds awesome. Yeah. You guys are over there and we're over here.

I think, yeah. I mean, how old are your kids now? My kids are, I've got a 17-year-old, a 13, 15, and 12. And I mean, I would imagine that's the age. Wouldn't you trust them in their own condo at this point? Yeah. I think I would. I think I would.

Yeah. And we were probably, you know, my older cousin, Josh, and, you know, my sister, my other cousin Liza and then me and we were so we were all about four years apart so I want to say like I was probably like 12 and Josh was probably like 16 or 17 yeah and so that was like sort of the age span and my parents like went along with it but again I was still like pretty young and very you know had not gone through puberty still guys I was a very late bloomer well you were only 12 at this time when did it just just for our listeners When did it eventually happen now?

Oh, 17. Right before he got to college. I said, let's get the fake IDs. Yeah. Thank God. Thank God it broke what it did. Yeah. But I was still really young, but I remember it being sort of like a momentous trip in the sense that it was the first time that my older cousin, who was like a brother, sort of treated me like an equal-ish.

You know, like, I was no longer, like, just this young sort of, like, kid. I was, oh, he can hang and we'll go do stuff, you know. But I still, you know, I was still young. I mean, I still, like, had a Blanky. I mean, I was, I was, and on this trip, sadly, Blanky died on this trip. So that was traumatic. How did Blanky die? The cleaning people, the cleaning people, I wish there was a better story,

but the cleaning people basically just like took all the sheets you know and took them away and they're like you're too old for a fucking blankie you sad child did you look forward to skiing yeah I always I still do I mean I just I just got back from Mammoth last night

we did a uh oh nice my daughter does like a they organize like a dads and daughters trip and so we just did that but I still I still really enjoy ski trips. I think my dad was a big skier and he always forced like winter vacations as opposed to sort of warm weather, you know, spots. Because I think he always felt like,

what am I, I don't know, there's nothing to do. You know, I sit on the beach and then, or I sit by the pool. He didn't seem like one that was wanting to relax and just like read a book and do nothing. He was always sort of more like activity based. It is a trap because certainly I would rather be on a vacation where there's nothing to do, but then you realize, like, once you have kids, there's no such thing as nothing to do. Yeah, exactly. And skiing, like, it's amazing how, like, gravity just takes over. Yes.

Yes. And so I totally get the appeal. I see where your dad's coming from. Yeah. That's the structure, I think, of, like, waking up and making breakfast and then going out on the mountain and having, like, a full day of something to do, tire everybody out and then come home, you know. But I, so I still, I sort of carried that.

with me. Like, I would so much prefer going to, like, a ski thing than I would. And your, your California kids are all skiers? They are. Yeah. They, they are. The older two, I stuck in, um, ski school forever, you know, I, because I was like, I'm not wasting my day, training you and training you as a skier. Uh, so I was that terrible dad that didn't, you know, have zero pay. I had zero patients from my kids learning to ski. I'm such a dick. But so I put them in ski school, and then when they got, like, good enough, I was like,

great, let's go. Like, let's hit the mountain. But my third kid got a little shafted because she didn't want to, like, be in ski school by herself necessarily. And so we just tried to, like, you know, we kind of just bring her along. But she didn't get quite the proper training, I think, as the other two. So now she's just lagging. behind and we're like, you know, we ridicule her.

I will say, I don't blame you for, I don't feel like you were shafting your kids by putting them in ski school. They're going to teach them better than you are. Yeah. I mean, it's like any probably sport, right? I mean, they kids like learn better from. They listen to strangers more than they listen to parents. Yes, yes.

It's, it's healthier, I think, probably for all involved. My son went on like a organized ski trip. with his school. And I was actually visiting Josh for his birthday, so I couldn't go, but I went and picked him up that night. And he called me and he's like, I went off the side of a cliff. And I'm like,

ha, ha, I'm sure. And then I showed up and like nine different parents were like, did you hear Ash went off the side of a cliff? I was like, what? I guess he just like went off the side. I mean, again, it was like, it turned out it was like a 45 degree angle once went off. But like, they're like, yeah, no, he was like at the bottom of a gully.

Yeah. Totally fine. But I'm like, my God. And that is a, I mean, I cannot believe now that when we were growing up, we were skiing without helmets. I know. I know. It is crazy. Because helmets existed.

I know what I mean? It wasn't like nobody thought of helmets yet. And it's so funny. It is so funny. I know. I was just talking about that also like the, and just the outfits like I wore. Like I wore because I wore what my dad wore because that was all I knew, which were like, like those like tight, really tight, like, stretch pants with like the, with the pads, you know,

like as if I was going to be like crushing gates or something, you know. Like, but, and they were like not water. There was no, like, maybe it was before like Gortex was around or something, but they would get soaking wet. I mean, it was like crazy. Yeah. I would say when Gortex got invented, it's all our dad wanted to talk about for like the next two years. I mean, it's those things in cars that you can put, like, weather tech, I think, is like those things that you can put in place of your floor mats and your cars. It's like, you just take them out and hose them off.

Yeah, it talks, this is a lot. If you want to, if you want more on that, we can get you on the phone with our dad. Yeah, that'd be great. That'd be great. We had, I will say, like, I had skied in like 20 years when our kids started going to ski school. And the first time I went out, I didn't. know like you were a literal crazy person if you weren't wearing a helmet. Yeah.

And so I was skiing without a helmet and I got a text message from a friend who said like, my son just called me to say he saw you without a helmet on and wanted me to text you and tell you to go by it. And like this is like by the way, like a 13 year old kid like was like, hey, I think Seth Myers doesn't know what time it is as far as like helmet. And I was like, oh, right. And I had to go buy a helmet. Yeah.

Yeah, I didn't have one for a long time, and my friends finally bought me one because they're like, you're being an idiot and we're going to just pitch you. They're like, they're comfortable and they're warm. That's the other thing. There's no downside. No, there is not. No, there's not. I know. I feel like there were no, I mean, it was like not wearing a car seat, I guess, the same sort of idea is that there was no, it was like safety third, you know, or last at all.

I mean, we did, we did one trip. We did one trip, you were talking about going off a cliff and reminded me, like, we did one big, like, Europe trip when I was a kid to go skiing, and we went to, I forget. It was like a mountain that where you can go into, like, another country or, you know, like, it was, like, bordered, like, France and Italy. And my sister and I, like, went the wrong way and then ended up, like, in Italy and then had to, like, figure out how to get back to France. You know, it's like when I was like, you're like, oh, and then we just did and we didn't have phones or anything. You just kind of like, that was literally going off the side of a cliff and ending up in another country and then you make your way back. But yeah, I don't know. That's very cool that you did that as kids like going overseas to school.

It was very cool. I know. I look back on that thinking like, oh, I should do more of that for my kids. I won't, but I should. You should. I have heard that it's cool that you know you should. I've heard that it is. almost cheaper. I've heard that it is cheaper. I think it's way cheaper. To fly, to buy the tickets,

to fly to Switzerland, France, Italy. Yeah. And then you get there and buy all the lift tickets there than it is to go skiing here. I totally buy that because hotels are cheaper. I had a friend who was in Jackson Hole for New Year's, and they had a seven-year-old girl, and they look to get her a private lesson. Yeah. It was going to be $1,100. Wow. I mean, that's insane. I don't know how they can continue. Because, like, lift tickets are now, somebody said the other day, like, they went to somewhere,

like Deer Valley or something in Utah, and the lift ticket was $330. Yeah. I, we ski at this real classic New England Tiny Mountain. Yeah. Which is called Mohawk. Oh, love it. But it's great.

It's everything I want for, you know, because my kids are, you know, 9, 7, 4, perfect. Yeah. Everything you need. But I was skiing with my daughter. And so it was just that thing of like getting her through the gate and me through the gate. And so I put, which I'd never done, I put my ski pass in the back of my glove. Yeah.

But against my hand. I didn't have like a slot for it or anything. Yeah. But then we got to the top and her hat wasn't on right or helmet strap was off. So I take off my thing. And then we get to the bottom. And I'm like, oh, when I took my glove off, my pass fell out. So we had to go in the lodge

Fortunately she had to go to the bathroom anyway And so we go in and I walk up And I explain I'm like hey so My past fell I took off my glove and my path fell out And this woman just goes Oh my God are you nine

And it was like the fairest burn Like by the way not With a big smile As she was getting me a new one But I didn't feel a real I'm like oh yeah That's a real like nine year old Like I took my glove off

I was thinking of burns for you on that, but I'm glad that I didn't have to come up with one. That is a good burn. That is a good burn. Somebody who, yeah, definitely has had it happen more often than not, and it's usually a nine-year-old. Yeah, yeah. Was that European trip?

Did you stay in sort of like a classic Alpin village kind of a place? It was awesome. It was so cool. It was like storybook kind of, you know, the whole experience. I remember even being I remember thinking at the time of like, I would like to come back here when I'm old enough to like drink and party because this is like the Aprey scene is so fun and it looked.

And again, I was probably 12 as I'm always 12. But I was like, I was like very jealous of like everybody like, you know, big steins of beer, you know. And I mean, I have been. I will say, like, I have gone back and I did, you know, like, fulfill that dream that I had as a kid. Because I remember thinking, like, that's so cool. And so later, I did go back and do that because the Apre scene in Europe, I think, is maybe the best there ever. I mean, there's no beating that in the Aprey world.

Like, they nail it. I mean, they use, we're using their word. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's fair. Where did you, what resort did you shoot downhill? We were in a couple of different resorts. We were started in FIS, which is like a really quaint, beautiful, like Austrian town, a little more family friendly. And then about halfway through, we went to Ischkel, which is like, a really quaint, like, Austrian town, a little more family-friendly. and then about halfway through we went to Ishkel, which is like, they call it the Abiza of the Alps.

And their slogan is, relax if you can. It's like a threat. And that was, I mean, yeah, talk about App Rae. I mean, they would, you know, their schedule was essentially, like wake up, uh, ski till whatever, three, and then

just, you know, shots of Yeager, you know, Stein's beer, like from, and then they're all in the town and they're all like singing all German songs. Everybody knows all the words. And they're basically like parting so hard. And then at around like seven or eight, it kind of like, you know,

after about four hours of that, it clears out because I think a lot of the hotels, like in their package, like dinner is included. So then they go to like a very like quiet formal dinner in their hotel from like eight to 10. And then 10 o'clock like down to the basement to the club where they party to like 4 a.m. And then they wake up and they just do it all over again. And I would say it was probably 93% male.

I mean, it is all dudes. You know, like, and they are German and Dutch and, you know, Russian. And, you know, they come from everywhere. They go there. I mean, there is a McDonald's on the main street. And the McDonald's has a strip club in the basement of the McDonald's. I can't believe Europe is the first place to have a strip club in the basement of McDonald's. I can't either.

Yeah. I mean, it was kind of a genius idea. You get everything you need. That's what we should try to get back. You know, fuck Greenland. We need to go get that McDonald's the strip club. Did you, I mean, obviously you were directing a movie when you were over there. So you weren't partaking, but did you, did you like ski those mountains?

Did you have time to do that at all? Yeah. I did, actually, because there was obviously like a bunch of, we were there for a while, probably four months. So there was a lot of prep time. So we skied a ton. And smartly, like a couple of. of times, you know, Julia Louis Dreyfus, her husband came out and he got a guide for a couple of days and invited me to go. And that was, like, phenomenal because, you know, the skiing over there,

like, there's really very little markers or boundaries. There's not like, you know, there's no, like, don't go here. That's out of bounds. It's like, go there and you end up either in another country or you're never found again kind of thing. And so having a guide. They basically take you to just areas of the mountain that you would never know to access without them. And the skiing was, like, incredible. I mean, it was so good. We also had great snow, so that helped. But it was so fun.

But I would also, when we were shooting, we would shoot a lot on the mountain. And so I would bring my skis just so that at the end of the day, like, we had to stop when it got. dark at, you know, when the mountain closed at four, basically it was like sort of the day was over. And so then I would take one run all the way down, you know, just at the end of the day after shooting. And it was kind of like the best. It was like my favorite moment of the whole day. And that feels like something you'd hear in like a documentary about like a, you know, a German filmmaker from like the 50s. And like, on his end of the day, he would ski down to him.

I know. I know. I thought I actually was going to die. There was one time I, like, they, because then they start grooming the mountain, like, at that time. And I was flying down and came over this knoll. And there was, like, a humongous, like, snow cat, like, grooming, you know, machine that was coming off the mountain that I did not see. And I, yeah, I was like, I thought that was going to be the end of me. Like, American director dies in a tragic way by Snowcat.

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My sister lived in Park City for about nine years after college. and became like a terrific telemark skier, which is like, you know, essentially cross-country skiing, like alpine style. And my mother was a beautiful skier, but a little more timid. You know, she liked a very, like, you know, she was a little more condition-based, I think.

Like a sunny day on a nice blue, you know, intermediate trail that had been groomed, you know, anything over that and we made the mistake of you know a couple of times like taking a wrong turn and she was she's very stylish and the outfits were sort of like the best part to her about skiing really it was like it was so she always had these like you know these like this big 80s kind of like suits you know like they were like Boehner suits and with like a fur on the collar you know just like onesies we're talking onesies yeah Like a big one piece, but they were also like, they were so, the material was like so slick.

So if you, God forbid, you fell, like you were not stopped for hundreds of yards. I mean, it was just like a sled going down the hill. And so there were a few times where she got, you know, we took her down like a black or something and she got very nervous, you know, and then, like, sort of, you know, that's, like, the worst way to skis, like, on your heels and, you know, tentatively. And then she would, like, fall down and then just slide all the way down. And then we would sort of have, you know, be looking up and she would just be there in her, like, you know, green Boehner suit, like sprawled, like hugging the mountain, like, screaming, screaming at us. Like, why did you take me down this? You know, what have you done?

You know, and then we're at the bottom all looking up at her going like, oh, shit, you know. And then hiking, you know, taking up her skis, hiking all the way up, you know, to like get her skis back on, you know. So it was, yeah, she was, but she's a beautiful skier. She's just like, likes a very, you know, gentle or slope. My, speaking of outfits, up. Alexi, my wife, just bought me a new ski outfit, which she had me try on in the apartment when I'm at home last night. And I put it on and she just looked at it for a minute. She goes, yeah, maybe you're just not supposed to ski.

That's what she, that was her takeaway from how it locked. By the way, it did look. Because she's like, I want to get you something cooler. And like the minute I put on something cooler, I did look like a dude who was like, I don't know, like watched one YouTube video about skiing and was like, I think I got it. Well, now I need to know what that was. It was good. It was like a cool outfit. But she's right.

She's like, what's wrong with the shape of your body? She's like, it's too tight here, it's too loose here, just don't be a skier. I know. Maybe we should go back to like, at Mammoth this weekend, I was so happy because I saw one dude just crushing jeans, you know, with the gators, the jeans, like, probably like an old CB jacket, you know, no helmet, just like a, you know, a hat that just went like a pyramid up on top of his head. I mean, the only thing he was missing was like bandanas on the ski poles, which is what we used to do. Oh, that's a good look.

Yeah. But he was like, he was having the best time, he was having the time of his life. Yeah. And I was like, I don't know. Maybe that's better than these weird ski outfits that don't fit our bodies.

Were you, were you hot tub people? Were you a hot tub family? Yeah. Love the hot tub. Love the hot tub. Yeah. And were you, when you were a kid,

would you like get out and lay in the snow and then get back in the hot tub? Yes, yes, always, always. I still will do that. It's so fun. It's so fun. You get that burn when you get back in? Yes, yes.

I know. And just like, you know, inevitably, like, it's usually, you know, we would stay at, like, places where it was, like, communal hot tubs, you know? Right. So inevitably, you are staying in, you're, like, sitting. awkwardly close because there's things are always kind of not quite big enough and so you're just sort of jammed like leg hair to leg hair next to some dude and just kind of quietly sitting there trying to make it not awkward but it always is a little tight I remember when we were in

Austria we would go to the they were more sauna people you know it was it was more about the sauna than the hot tub in Europe. And they, you know, they were, they were never wearing anything at all. I mean, it was nude every place you went, like, in the sauna. You were nude. If you were, like, stepping out of the sauna, I'm going to take a cold shower. You were nude. And it was all, you know, co-sex, like either sex.

Why can I say that? I don't know what the word is. The co-sex. Yeah. It's co-sex. It's all gender? Yeah. And I remember taking my little girl, and she was like, can we go to the hot room, which is what she called the sauna?

And I was like, yeah, let's go, you know. And then we just went in there and there was just, you know, boobs and penises. And everybody was just like hanging out, like casually talking. And she was like, this is not what I wanted to come to. Why did you take me here? And I was like, well. And I also, I remember. There was another time where the RDP was in the sauna.

And, you know, it's sort of like steamy when you go in. And I had a towel wrapped around my waist. And I was like, you know, kind of go in. And he was just fully laying down, like full, fully naked. And then he sort of sat up. And then we sort of like made eye contact. And I was like, oh, Danny, hey. And he set up, like, totally comfortable.

not caring at all, and was like, you know, that was a great day today. You know, I thought we got the shots, you know, but all the while, like, he's naked. And I'm like trying to be professional and be like, yeah, no, I thought, you know, but you, it's just like, it's weird. It's weird to, like, work with people and then talk about the work when you're, have no clothes. Yeah. We, because we, you know, Josh and I lived in Europe for a little bit, and every now and then some would be, like, Like, let's all go to that, you know, a spa. Yeah.

I was always like, I feel like if we'd grown up in Europe, I could go to a spa with all you people. I know. I know. I know. I'm not down for it. I know. They're so normal. It's like so normal there.

Yeah, no judgment. I'm just like, we're, I'm just not ready for it. I'm not either. I'm so, like, fearful of it. I lived in Santa Barro for a little bit, and they, I lived with this couple and they had a hot tub in their backyard. And it was like an elevator. hot tub, like a big, like, sort of, like, one of those old, like, barrels, basically that kind of, like, came up out of the ground with, like, a little platform to, like, get in. So you kind of were low when you were in it looking up. And they were all these, like, you know, really cute, like, you know, UCSB girls that would be, like, in the hot tub. And they were like, and the rule of the hot tub was, like, no bathing. It was, like, a naked hot tub thing. And so they'd all be like, oh, nah, come on, come in the hot tub. You'd be like, yeah, yeah. And then you would have to, like literally like take off your clothes like while they were all looking up at you

and you'd be like sticking your leg in like I'm sorry if like yeah if I could just get in that little area over there excuse me that's no that's no dude's best naked angle from underneath no it is very true nobody's getting their head shots and then is like and then just one where you're on the ground and I'll take my pants off get That's the one. Give me while I'm doing it. Yeah. And I'm like the sad, I'm like, I'm thankful I don't have like a ton of like back hair or something.

But I do have a generous amount of leg hair. And so therefore it's just, that's even worse. Like no girl wants to look up at a lot of leg hair from a low angle. Well, also those legs are going to come down and that's the first thing you see is coming by you. It's like, all right, here's this foot. And then, whoa, what's all this? It's brushing against their face. The more you talk about it, the more I'm thinking,

They said, Nat, come in, just the one time. Yeah, I learned my lesson. And that word got out. I learned my lesson. I literally would then, you know, rush home from work or something or, and then I would just get in that hot tub, like, immediately. So that I was the first person there. And I would wait hours just until everybody else was ready to come in. So I could not be the last guy in.

I do, before we let you go, you're so funny on loot. Oh, thank you. I'm so jealous that you are currently working with Maya. I know. I know. She is. Did you know her back from the groundlings? Yeah.

Yeah. We knew each other. We sort of came through the groundlings together. So we were in the Sunday company together, the sort of, you know, the level right before the main company. And so we wrote a lot of terrible sketches together that were bombs, but were so fun. And so, yeah, it's like. Doing, you know, a show with, like, your oldest, you know, one of your oldest best friends.

It's very easy and comfortable and adore her, so. That's fantastic. You guys are great together. I'm also, I had to look it up while at the beginning of this interview. Yeah. This puzzle for me has been solved that has been driving me crazy genuinely for years, which is Roger Angel, who is a great sports writer, wrote a famous essay about Carlton Fiske's home run against the Reds in the 1975 World Series. famous home rung.

And hold on, I want to make sure I get this right because I was always like, but there aren't five. Because, of course, it had happened. And it talks about how people were going crazy all over New England in Wayland and Providence and Revere and Nashua. And in both the Concordes and all five Manchester's. So, but then I knew there were only four Manchester's. And now I found out that when he wrote that, there were five. Wait, really? Yeah, well, there's five.

Because I knew New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, England. I guess, can you count that? No, I think it's, I think there's a Manchester, Vermont. Yep. There's a Manchester in Connecticut. Oh, right. Okay. Is there a Maine, Manchester?

There is a. And we can cut this far out. So there you go. There's a Manchester main. There's five. There were five. And I was like, what's the fifth? And now I know it's because when he wrote it in 19,

75, that was before you guys. When did you switch it? Got it. I mean, probably 80. I would think like in the 80s. Probably mid-80s. Wow. Yeah.

Thank God. And if Seth has his way, they're going to change it to Manchester on the scene. Well, you should now, so people don't associate you with that bummer of a movie. I know. It's true. Which is genuinely great movie. I don't want to be like, don't see Manchester. But apparently, I think Kenny Launergan, like, pointed at a map, and, like, that was how he

decided on that town. Like, I don't think it was, like, there was very little, like, connection to, it was just like, that'll work. That's the funny. Kenny is such a great writer. It's so funny to me that he's like, just bring me a map and I'll point at it.

I know. Like, I would be like, he's so, like, I would never think he would have a single, like, a cheap moment in how he chose his language. Right, right. And then I'm just going to put my finger on it, and then I'm going to name the entire, movie after that.

That movie was almost named Parabscat. Yeah. Panopscott did not do as well during award season. No, it did not. By the way, I can't believe, now I'm realizing you also, do you think you write movies based on where you want to spend it? Because you also did descendants, so you got to go to Hawaii. Yes.

I mean, I can't believe you guys got away with this twice. I know, I know. I feel like Adam. Sandler and I sort of set that bar and then I was like, well, he's doing something great. So let's keep doing that. Yeah, I would, I would like to continue doing that because, I don't know, shooting a movie in some cool place is the best. And where was the, and where was a way, way back?

That was like South Shore of Massachusetts. So we were in Marshfield. or the little like hamlet of Green Harbor, which is sort of like part of Marshfield almost. And then the water park was in Wareham. Okay. And so we were, yeah, between the two. But that was a little bit, that probably could have been anywhere on the East Coast, really, I would think.

Like, you know, it worked out very well for us. I mean, for me, because that was sort of like my childhood. It was a lot going to the Cape and stuff like that. So it felt very reminiscent. of that, but a lot of it was due to Steve Carell, whose family has a place in Marshfield. And we went to him, and he wrote us a very nice letter, basically back saying, like, I love this. I can't do it because my family, you know, it's like summer, and it's when I spend time with my family.

And I, you know, and thankfully his agent sort of side, you know, texted us essentially and was like, I think this is a little bit of a soft pass. Like if you, I think you might be able to get him, you know. And so then we wrote him back and we're like, totally understand. What if we shot like right down the street from where you summer? Would that make a difference? And we'll get you out really fast and you can walk to work. And he was like, all right, yeah, then I'll do it.

And so that was sort of like why we ended up there. I like that for anybody who's listening who's wondering why movies get made where. It's where does Steve Carell live and where did Kenny Lonergan point. Exactly. So much thought goes into it. So much thought.

It's been so great talking to you, Nat. It's been so great talking to you guys. Before you go, though, Josh is going to hit you with the speed round. Oh, shit. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?

Adventurous. What is your favorite means of transportation? Train. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh, I would like to take a vacation with a very wealthy family. Yeah, somebody who's very rich who can really, or I feel like Julia Louis-Dreyfus goes on very cool vacations. I would like to go with her. We've talked to her and she'd be a great, great choice.

Yes. Yeah. Which is weird for you because she notoriously has very little money. Yeah. Because you want someone wealthy. That fits both well. That hits a lot of, checks a lot of boxes. Checks a lot of boxes.

If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Ooh. My immediate family or just any... Extended or immediate? Your pick. I can't say one of my kids because now that'll live forever and infamy. I would say maybe my sister.

Okay. Dream destination for a family vacation. I want to go to... I want to ski in Japan, so I'm going to say... That's good. I would say Japan. Great. And you are from Manchester by the sea.

if you had to get more families to come and visit Manchester by the sea on the heels of that movie coming out, trying to write the ship to get more families to come by, how would you pitch that town? I would say, I would say a quaint New England town literally by the sea. On it, also on it. On it, with a beach that sings.

it is literally called singing beach. And when you shuffle your feet, it sings. I mean, it's not a great song, but it's sort of like a Oh, don't sell it short. That was a great song. All right. And then Seth has our final questions. Nat, have you been to the Grand Canyon?

No. Do you want to go? Yes and no. Yeah. So no. I say, I mean, I do to say I've done it, but I kind of don't. Yeah, that's a no. And thank you for your honesty.

We really appreciate it. It's been lovely talking to you now. It's been so nice talking to you guys. All right, look forward to seeing you around town somewhere. Yeah, absolutely. All right. We're on the slopes. On the slopes.

I'm going to mammoth this Sunday. Oh, yes. Have fun. Yeah, I wear a bright yellow jacket. Oh, no, I wear a bright orange jacket. So we can flash. All right, buddy. Thanks so much.

Thank you guys. Bye. Bye.