Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - NIKOLAJ COSTER-WALDAU Totaled A Parked Car in Iceland

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

This week Seth and Josh welcome Nikolaj Coster-Waldau to the podcast! He shares all about his upbringing in Denmark, family trips to Spain in a Fiat 600, his adventures hosting a travel documentary series, the cultural nuances of Scandinavian countries, his love for Greenland, and so much more! Plus, he chats about Season 2 of “The Last Thing He Told Me” on Apple TV and Season 2 of his docuseries, “An Optimists Guide To The Planet. Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Support our sponsors: DeleteMe Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://joindeleteme.com/ TRIPS and use promo code TRIPS at checkout. WildGrain Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off your first box - PLUS free Croissants for life - when you go to https://Wildgrain.com/TRIPS to start your subscription today. Fitbod Level up your workout in the new year. Join Fitbod today to get your personalized workout plan. Get 25% off your subscription or try the app FREE for seven days at https://Fitbod.me/trip Shipt Download the app or order now at https://shipt.com Marley Spoon This new year, fast-track your way to eating well with Marley Spoon. Head to https://marleyspoon.com/offer/trips for up to 25 FREE meals! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, Pajie. Hey, Sufi. How's it going? Great. How are you? Great. I had a great weekend with the kids and the Pankas. Oh, yeah.

Alexi was out of town, and so I was very lucky to have our parents come and lend a few helping hands. Are they? Do they take over full duties on the grandkids? Not at all. And everything I said was meant to be said sarcastically. But, no, they were helpful because they showed up first. And my brother-in-law, Tolia, was with my daughter, Adi. And she's your niece, Addy.

You remember her? Yeah, no, I remember her. I love her. And they had to play, I think, like, two hours of hide-and-seek with Adi. Uh-huh. Adi only likes to hide with Poncaieri. So basically, then, hurry has to go looking for him. And hurry's not a great looker, it turns out.

Really? But, yeah, she's not good at that sort of thing. Pankyeri got in a bathtub with Addy and said it was way harder to get out of than he thought. Yeah. So we almost, we almost, he almost just lived there.

I mean, he threw a pillow in there and some blankets. Just like, yeah. Yeah. Where's Pongiari? He lives in a clawfoot antique bathtub that he was a little overconfident about when he got in.

Then, you know, we had a really, you know, me and the boys got there. And, you know, got him to bed on Friday. On Saturday, you know, our kids, it was freezing cold on the East Coast this weekend. And our kids go to this forest school every Saturday from 9 to 1. And I will say, first of all, they woke me up at like 5 in the morning. Because when Alexi has gone, the kids rotate who gets to sleep with me. And if it's Axel or Addie, that means I'm up at like 5 in the morning.

Yeah. And that it was, by the way, the hardest thing about it was they just did not want to go because it was so cold. and you remember me as a kid like that would have been my line 100% Yeah And one of the hardest things about being a parent Is like knowing

I used to be exactly in their shoes Yeah Quitter And you're like no yeah quitter A cold a quitter with bad What's it called? Circulation Yeah

Like a little white tipped fingered quitter And so And I just like held the line But it was a four-hour fight because as soon as they knew it was Saturday and what that meant, it was just a four-hour fight. And then I got him out the door. And Axel screaming that the snow was too deep and he was going to get stuck in the snow. And then we dropped him off in Forest School and I just, you know, their sort of a teacher was like, where's Axel? And he had already, like, for fun, gone and, like, buried himself at a snowdrift.

Like, immediately got him there and he was doing all the things. He was so afraid of. When they got home, did they say it was very cold out or that wasn't the story anymore? It was not the story. They also, I mean, again, you know, they're with professionals. We don't just, like, send them off with, like, woods people. Right. And so they have, like, they have a couple, like, little yurts they will stop in if it's too cold.

So it seemed like it was maybe less of an outdoor day and, you know, they were fine. More of a yurt day. It was a year day. But then we had the punk Olympics. Oh, right. Which was one of the selling points of, like, just go. And then when you get come home, they'll be the punk Olympics. I was like, we're going to do the punk Olympics,

we're going to watch a movie, and then we're going to go get dinner at a place they like. And so we got them home, and it was the momentum of the day was just exceptional. The punk Olympics were like a little ski ball game. Maybe you bought for us? I can't recall, I don't think so. A little ski ball game, they have a little Nerf gun.

We set up empty cans, and they had to knock over, you know, stacks of cans. Connect 4 was in the Punk Olympics. We put a basket at the bottom of the stairs of the stairs and put seven different balls at the top of the stairs and they had to throw the balls in yeah um fun game and uh that was a that was a real highlight uh football in the attic which is kind of crazy because it's not very it's not very big but yeah neither are the kids it's a sizable it's big enough for that if you're going to play football in that house you're going to play in the attic yeah and uh and that was yeah it was great it was uh it was a home run the punk

Olympics. And then they watched, we've talked about it. They watched that Heath Ledger movie First Night, which is a big hit. And then we went and had a great dinner. That's great. Yeah. It was outstanding. Was there a winner of the punk Olympics?

You know what? It was really nice because Ash technically won the punk Olympics. Okay. And then we, oh, we also played hungry, hungry hippos, which is Addy's worst game. I'm sorry, Addy's favorite game and also the worst. game ever created. But we, I said, like, it's really good because, like, Addy's still young enough that you can make eye contact with the other kids and be like, we're going to let Addy win.

And so Addy won hungry, hungry hippos. And then the boys were like, Addy won. And then she was like, over the moon. And, you know, yeah. But football kind of in the end was the tiebreaker. And, you know, Ash again, 9 and 7, it's very hard for a 9-year-old to lose to a 7-year-old. But he won. And everybody was in a great mood.

Great. well well organized on that I feel like I feel like your kids kind of go they have a pretty structured life and they do well with structure and so to have told them ahead of forest school that

upon return they would have a punk Olympics which also keeps mom and dad very involved which I think is also fun for them yep it was a great time all around and yeah did mom compete in the punk olympics was she she did not complete uh she did not oh the other thing that

happened in the punk olympics was uh ash is very clumsy and at one point ash was just like running and and he was like always i'm just like stop running in the house you're just like all you ever do is fall and you're never in a rush yeah but he ran to reset up the cans uh and he clipped his side on like the coffee table uh and he was like ow and dad said oh that's going to leave a mark and then Ash looked at me and goes well that doesn't make me feel better and it really made me laugh and then instead of it being a secret

I said Poncoyeri Ash just pointed out that when you hurt yourself you don't want to hear somebody say that's going to leave a mark and Poncairer is like oh I'm sorry Ash I shouldn't have said that and then Ash just the rest of the day kept going like that's going to leave a mark

remember and it was like got like progressively less funny and then three hours later Addie banged into something on accident and then just goes, that's going to leave a mock and everybody was like, oh my God, laugh so hard

and you could tell Ash was like, I've been saying that all day. Yeah, it's delivery. It's how it's callbacks. I'm like, for her it was a callback for you, it was just like saying it. Yeah. Yeah.

But it's great. That's awesome. And now we have a Nikolai Costa Waldof. Yeah. I mean, at the forefront of a lot of current news as a Danish gentleman whose wife is from Greenland.

Yeah. Has a house in Greenland? I think we were both surprised. We were both surprised to find out exactly how tied in he was to geopolitical events. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, we all know him as Jamie Lannister. But he's got season two coming out

of the last thing he told me. And he's got a great travel series called The Optimist's Guide to the Planet. Highly recommend. Yeah. And also, we learn in this that he has a little doc travel series all about Greenland. So if you want to actually learn about a place that our current government is threatening to just take. Yeah.

If you want to figure out. It might be his fault because his doc made it so alluring. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the thing. Because now we know, of course, about the current family in charge of this country. They're real documentary people. They are.

They probably watched a lot of docs to get ready for their doc. Just based on the way they prepare. I can't imagine they went in blind. So it's probably on him. You know what? Probably on him. All right, enjoy the conversation. Thanks everybody.

Hello. Hey. Hello, gentlemen. Nice to see you. We didn't know. if we didn't have any audio for a moment. It was nice. You really made us wait there.

Hey, sorry, sorry. Well, I'm all the way in London. That's why. You're in London? I'm in London, yes. I'm just here for two days. So that's why, just, that's not mine. That's a hotel.

Okay. It's very helpful to let people know that's not yours. Are you, where's home now? Where do you live full time? Well, Miss Denmark, just north of Copenhagen. And we also have a place in Greenland. My wife's from Greenland. Oh.

It's fantastic. Really awkward. You do for now. You do for now. Really awkward. What a weird time this must be for someone like you. Yeah, no, it's very strange. I think it's strange, not just for me, of everyone I know in the U.S. and in Europe,

it's, it's a, yeah, strange is one word to, I was just in Greenland over Christmas and New Year's. And, you know, it's a small people, the Greenlanders, it's only 57,000. But, like, to be honest, they are petrified because it's a strange thing to have, like, the big military power in the world saying we're going to come get you. Yeah, there's not much you can do to plan. So how do we, you know what I mean? What are we stuck up with here? Can I ask, so what is, talk us through, though, like, I would imagine not your first holiday season you spent in Greenland.

What is a holiday in Greenland like? Because I feel like one of the crazy things about it being in the news is how little any of us know about Greenland or its people or its customs or what it's like at all. Well, it's for us, we have a big family up there. It's very cozy. You know, it all happens. Christmas Eve is on the 24th is when you get together. You have a big dinner. You dance around the Christmas tree.

You sing some songs. You hand out presents. It's all very, very relaxed, very family around. They have, every house in Greenland will have these orange stars, like lanterns everywhere. I mean, it's also because it's a very dark time of the year, of course, in North. We had a white Christmas. Usually you do. Nice.

But it's, yeah, it's beautiful. I only know because we just looked it up really for a joke because, because somebody was like, like I realized, like, I did not know the capital of Greenland. You know what I mean? No, I don't think most people wouldn't know. It's called nuke. And I think that most Americans, why would you know that?

It's not, it's just now, it's become such a, so the focus, of course, because of President Trump's desire to, for you to take over. Well, you're making it sound very nice. He loves orange, orange lanterns. Exactly. That's the thing. In this color.

By the way, I looked up your, because when you look for your podcast, the description, and I was so happy to see that you are lifelong brothers. We are. That's true. At least my whole life. But it's a funny thing you have to. It is. Actually, you might be the first one to point up, yeah.

We wanted people to know that, like, agents didn't, like, put us together later in life. We're not a boy band. Yeah, we're not a boy band. How do you, where did you meet a Greenlander? Is that how your wife would be described? My wife, we actually met, which before podcasts were podcasts, I guess, back of the day. We just did a radio play at the Danish radio. And she played, it was set in Greenland.

She played the love interest of my character. And she walked through the door, and I was, that was it. That was it. That's fantastic. I fell in love there and then. and then and and I told, I was,

I went to rehearsal at a play and I told everyone there that I was getting married and they say with whom and I was like, I have no idea. I don't know her name, but you don't understand. That's the best.

It's crazy. But, and then we did a movie in Iceland that summer. I was, I suggested to the director. I was writing the script with him

and I said, listen, we haven't found this, this woman to play this character. I just met this actor. I think she would be a, amazing. You should test her and he did and she got the parts so we got to spend a summer in Iceland which was incredible and then and then actually we talking about road trips.

We did a road trip in Iceland. I mean that's a great place to take a road trip. Was it was it a winter Iceland movie or a summer? It was summer. Yeah, there you go. But it it was it was it was a horrible it ended basically with me crashing a car into a part. car in Reykivay, which turned out to be the car belonged to the Russian ambassador. And I totaled his car. And it was not a good look. But apart from that, then after that, we, and also it was a car I bought from someone in production. So I had to take that.

It was terrible. And also, I didn't have a driver's license. So there was a lot of things that were, they were, lined up that they not play out well. I hesitate to ask almost, but how do you total a parked car? Well, that's, that's, you got to hit it. I went, I reversed into it. I went up a one-way street.

As I said, I didn't have my driver's license. I was, I was getting a driver's license. I was living in London. I was 25. And in London, you get like a provisional license. And I managed to persuade people in Iceland that this was a real license. you just folded it up. And then I borrowed this car from production

and this movie we were doing. I was going up the one way, but actually also on top of this, I came from, we was shooting that day, and I was still in makeup, I was driving myself. And in my character, I was wearing an all red velvet suit. I had tattooed two snakes on the side of my face. I had bloody hands. Anyway, going down this one way he wrote,

I'm the, oh, no, it's the wrong way. And I looked, I thought I looked back. And then I just reverse full, I wanted to go way too hard. And I just reversed into this parked beautiful car. And I look over and there, it's a big house. And there's a guy standing over that. It sounds like a bad move, but that's the way. He was smoking a cigarette like this.

And then he looks. And then he runs in. And then like 10 seconds, I'm standing out trying to say, oh, this is bad. I have to face the music now. And then this guy comes running out. He's big and he's all, he's beat red in his face and angry because he'd waited six months for this car. And he's the Russian ambassador and he wants to kill me. He wants to send me to the Gulaq.

And then the police comes and I hand over this provisional driver's license and I'm going, I'm going to jail for this. But it turns out the police, I can say this now. It's 30 years ago. I hope I'll hear this now. But the cops in Iceland didn't know the difference between a provisional and a real license. And so I got off. And then after, and he was still so angry. And I understand.

Listen, today, I would be, oh, my God, I understand. It was so angry. But I had two bottles of wine that I bought in the back of the car. I ran after the guy. Hey, Mr. Ambassador, I'm so sorry. I hope insurance and he took these and he smashed these wine bottles. And I don't blame. And then two weeks later, we did another road trip.

I don't know why I still shouldn't be driving clearly. I don't know why she went with you. I mean, she obviously true love. But then we went to a play called Sneffiel-Chir-Kul, which is like this volcano, this old glacier on a volcano. And then that's when I proposed to her. Wow. So how long after you met her did you propose? That was five months, five months.

Wow. So there you go. You knew. I will, in the ambassador's defense, I feel like if somebody totaled my car and then the way they apologized was ran after me with alcohol. No, you don't have to. There's no defense. I'm the asshole. There is no, I also imagine you come out, you hear that thing.

And someone says, oh, my God, someone crushed your car. You come out and there's a guy, a 26-year-old happy dude standing there in a red velvet with snake tattoos on his face going, hey, I'm an actor. I'm sorry, this is not how I look. Yeah, no. And then he takes a tiny little piece of paper out of his wallet. Look, I know how to drive. Literally, yeah.

And it was like, it was like, permission here. This is my license. See? Yeah, no. I feel like I'm trying to work backwards. Did you... You had scenes that shot in Iceland during Game of Thrones. Did you go back there to shoot? No, no.

You never did, huh? But I went, I've been back. I love that country. It's amazing. I've been there quite a lot. I shot a movie that I also co-wrote, called Against the Ice, a few years ago. And then I did this whole series called King and Conger a couple years ago, also in Iceland. It's been, I think, overall, a couple of years up there.

They have great crews in Iceland. Amazing. They have the best studio in the world called RVK studios. It's just, like, it's, it's an amazing place. How long is the flight from Copenhagen to Nuke? To Nuke, it's four hours, four and a half hour. Okay, gotcha. Oh, wow.

Yeah, it's further than I would have. It's four hours and 15 to New York from Nuke. So it's, it's going to be so. I literally, it could just open the fly. In the summer, you can fly now from with United to Newark. And I took that flight to New York. It's, yeah. Yeah.

No, I mean, we can talk a lot about Greenland. I have a lot to say, but maybe it's the, it's not right. Yeah. Well, so I have a question then. Would you have, do you think if you had not met a Greenlander, you would have ever gone to Greenland? Well, my dad worked when I was a kid, he worked at the U.S. base. at North Texas.

Okay. There's an Air Force base at the very truck. Yeah, there's quite a few, I believe. There were. There were. Now there's just one. And he worked there for years.

I mean, you couldn't, you weren't allowed to go visit. But I, I was so curious and he would always bring stuff back. Like, you know, baseball glove and stuff like that. And actually, a couple years ago, I did a documentary where I traveled around Greenland.

And I started, I was allowed to go and shoot at the bay. So we started there. It was 2018, 19. And because inside this baseball glove that my dad gave me, it actually says that it belonged to the base gym. So I thought, okay, I'll bring it back, you know, bring the gift back. My dad forgot to bring this back. So I did. And then they did a little frame. They framed it and put it up outside the base gym. So one, it's just, it was a very interesting. in place and it's also that the history of course with with the with the u.s in greenland is goes back to the to the second world war and it's it's it's it's fascinating i traveled around i saw a lot of

the the old bases that now have been either convergent or something else or have just you know ceased to exist but it's uh it's it's it's a it's a long history it's a very um very which documentary was this that uh when you went back and did it called it's called through greenland with with uh with with with with with with nikolacoste all down and uh and uh and uh and It's five parts where I go all the way around. It's on YouTube. You can find it. It's good.

And if you want to know anything about Greenland, you can, you can, you actually. I mean, I really genuinely think this is perfect timing for this to have a second life. No, I agree. For all the wrong reasons, unfortunately. But yeah. Yes, unfortunately. I mean, the thing is, Greenland has been so excited because they've been moving towards real full independence over the last few years. And that's kind of what's the next steps.

you know, probably still be part of the Commonwealth, the world, the kingdom, but have complete self-governance. And then this thing happens where they go like, what, we've been colonized, and that we're finally about to get to the, and now this guy wants to colonize us. But do you think now, because now that I am so lucky to have you here, because I haven't, do you really think that this is something that anyone outside of the Oval Office thing is, is a priority for Americans to conquer another people. I didn't, but I find him very convincing. No, no, I don't.

I don't think anybody thinks this. And I don't think that anybody, even when you hear now certain politicians trying to bend over backwards to make sense of it. Like, none of that is the reasoning. No, I remember because we've been, obviously, you know, there's a panic. And then like the whole thing, okay, well, he's worried about. the security let's and he talks about all these Chinese and and Russian boats around Greenland and obviously people live there and they go there are no Chinese ships they're not here what is he talking about and there's a reason why you know the US they used to have 15,000 troops now they

have 150 that you know that anyway but but but but I read this thing that it that there was a journalist a writer went to see him in in 21. Yeah, in 21 to do a book and asked him about this thing with Greenland. He said, well, I love maps. Look at this. How big it is? Also, somebody pointed out that it looked, the way the maps are.

That's the, it looks bigger than it is. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's, that's the, that's the thing. It's a classic, us in, in, in Western Europe and the U.S., we make sure to make the map, so we look the biggest. And now you're really paying for it. We're paying for it. You should make new maps where it's just real tiny.

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And that was about it. And it's one of those. I mean, you find them in a lot of European countries where you have like one back in the day, one big farm. And then the houses there were basically for the workers. And then there was one, there was sometimes in 68 or something,

a guy had this idea that this place was going to, he was going to build a whole new suburb to this. place. So he started and he only got to, he built three houses, basically, and that was it. And we lived in one of them. One of the three houses. Main Street, I'm 18. That was us. Yeah. That was me and my two older sisters and my mom. And I was thinking about this before, you know, because I was talking to you. And we had our family holidays were usually, my mom didn't have much money, but she had, we had a fee at 600. If you know what that is, the tiniest amount. Yes, of course.

Like tiny. And then she would put our bicycles on the roof, so the car was higher than it. It's like ridiculous. And then we would go either. Usually it would be to Sweden for a week. But she also once took us all the way she was very ambitious. She drove to Spain, which is a long, long drive in a Fiat 600 that goes at maximum speed of 50 miles. an hour and she decided to do the uh she wanted to go across the the pyrenees but she had to go through the pyrenees but she went the she said i want to go the picturesque route route which of course is like these tiny little you know subantine whatever you call it and uh turns out my mom and my sister uh have extreme fear of heights so she had a panic attack on the way up but luckily enough

my mom at that you know she was 40 30 i mean that's the funny thing you know when you get older you think back yeah no you can't believe my parents were like nothing but she was 38 or something like late 30s she was hot so i remember yeah she didn't remember no but like i remember like this blanche can even go i don't know what to do and then there was always so many really friendly spanish guys that would fix the car would make sure that we got up there and we always have a place to stay on the way um and and and for years I didn't understand because there was a guy who even came to Denmark to visit us. And I thought that was so sweet.

And then now, of course, I realized, oh, she had a, she found someone. But it was just, yeah. You really, the funny thing is you don't really appreciate the things that your parents do when they do it. You do it like, you appreciate it like 30 years later when it's kind of late. You know what I mean? Like, not too late, but it's like, wow, my God. My mama, she didn't have any money and she put all us kids at a tiny car. She drove all the way just so we put.

I mean, driving, yeah. I mean, how long does it take from Denmark to Spain? That seems like in that car, it was three, four days. And we, oh, we had a tent, like a two-person tent, the tiniest tent that we would stop. Yeah, I don't know how she did it. But do you remember, like, when you think back to it was that trip, did it seem like a fun adventure? It was an amazing adventure. And that was another thing.

obviously we you know I pack my my back with my comic books and and some real books and then that would be the entertainment and then of course you would do that thing would just be talking and singing and having fun in the way you know well that well you know I mean

obviously older than you guys but we didn't have you know these things that was only the entertainment that we came up with and yeah it was such an adventure just to sit and also to see Europe and see I mean incredible Would you stop in little towns along the way, or were you sort of like at Spain or Boston? But I also remember, I remember seeing my first computer game at like some gas station somewhere.

They had one of those, one of the biggest ones, you know. But it was the, what was it called this one? Doot. Palm. Yes. And I was playing that. It was, I mean, my God, already then you go, oh, my God, I want more of this, please. Yeah.

And now I can't even fucking do. I can't take a shit. I can't take a shit without a phone now. It's just crazy. It was interesting we were just talking about, you know, again, like how we're in this weird era where like our kids and the adults are getting addicted to phones at the same time, right? Like I didn't grow up with Instagram, but like it has the same effect on my brain that it does on kids. And then, but then we were remembering my wife and I were like, also we would like play like brick breaker on our, you know, blackberries. It's not like we were like, we never looked at our phone for dumb shit.

You know what again? It's like you said, like you saw Pong and you're like that. The thing is, that's why it's so, I mean, I mean, clearly it's the brightest people that come up with these things. They are very smart and making sure that we get addicted to this. I think it's just, it's come to this point out where you, where I do think we need, I believe that we need to have, we have to accept that we cannot control this. it's we can we need to put some kind of guardrails in because it's it's kind of like tobacco right you go yeah in a free world why if people want to smoke well like whatever like they should do whatever they want but actually it's really harmful and I think that's what we're seeing now did your so you're how were

uh were were we're Danish schools good about it do you feel like or is it uh is it all happening at the same time well it's all I kind of missed that because obviously you know I'm I was you know it wasn't an issue for me and with my kids they didn't have phones and well I mean obviously when they got into their teens then they it started but they're 20 25 now I

think they I think they missed out on the worst thing and I think but I know that that I mean you can't I think they've you're no longer allowed to have your your phones in school which I think is a good idea I mean but also there is something

about how do we because I also hate this idea that we have to ban everything. And obviously I think we should ban phones from schools. But this idea that we, I mean, I just, I don't know, there has to be a smarter way of doing this. Like, because we, why can't, why is it, I mean, because we know that these things when they do the, so it's all for profit, it's all about the algorithms.

We know that. Couldn't we just go in and say, listen, it's all good. We want you to make money, but you can't, you can't do it like that. Yeah, it would be nice. I think if everyone's lock screen showed how many, their daily hours of screen time, and you couldn't hide it. So anywhere you were, that was your lock screen, and people would see that you spent nine hours a day on your phone,

and that that became a point of shame. I'm sure some people would be like, would take it as a point of pride. Yeah, no, I, yeah, and it's, but then, yeah, but then, yeah, But do you think that the reason that you don't see people smoking so much more is because you have those beautiful photos on the cigarette? I don't think that's what it is. I think it's more like it's a thing that we all, we basically said it's not allowed. Right. I mean, it was.

It was crazy when they just, you know, I remember in New York where it's like, you can't smoke inside it anymore. And like so many people stop smoking. I know. Because, you know, then there was the shame of having to go stand outside and then they were like, yeah, never mind. It's too cold. I've been at a couple restaurants recently. where people will be like just watching things on their phones without earphones in. Oh, yeah.

And I can't believe that if you own that restaurant or that bar that you don't say, I'm sorry, you can do this, but you need to have headphones in because it's just like you've put a television on your sort of table at a cafe and turned it on and start just watching TV. Yeah. I will say that I had a flashback when you said comic books in the back of the car because I remember when we were on road trips. It was that era where you would just go to any gas station would have that sort of spin rack of comics. And how fun it was to just buy three comic books and just sort of quietly sit in the car reading them. We had something called, I don't, I'm sure you had it as well. But it was like, it was the jumbo books.

Did you have that? Yeah. Uh-huh. And you know, when you had all. Like sort of bigger comics? Well, no, no. It's like, it's basically, it's the, the Donald Dog, all that whole world. Yes, yes, yes.

And it's just like little books, but it's still the comics. But I could, I mean, I knew them inside and out. It was just the best. It's funny. What, do you remember where you went in Spain and like what the, what you would do when you got there? Were you guys going to the beach or were you going? We go to, I remember we went to one, I mean, yeah, it was a camping site, but it was right next to one of those, it was a fair, like, what do you call it, those fairs with the, with the, you know. where you can go and shoot stuff, like a county fair.

It was a way next to that, and then there was a beach, and then there was a, it was not a very picturesque place at the time. I loved it, though. There was water. I had a football. Hey, what else can you? That was just happened. I mean, the thing is you don't need much.

Were you close with your sisters? I was, I mean, yes. I mean, there were my sisters, but they were like a little older foreign aid. And so there was, yeah, I was. the annoying little brother. So I was always out looking for someone to play with. And I usually would find someone, right?

Especially, you know, camping sites. There's always kids. And, yeah. Did you, how far from Copenhagen were you? Well, as a kid, it was like, that felt like a whole, that was a different world. It was, but it's just an hour away.

But I remember the first time I went to company, I was with school, of course. You had to go look at a museum. but I remember seeing my first Burger King and I was like, holy, holy, that's incredible. It's so sad, isn't it? And then many years later, not many years, like 10 years later, I was going at it,

it was National Theater School in Copenhagen. And we had an exchange program because there was the fall of the Soviet Union. So Russia was suddenly becoming accessible. And we did this exchange with Russia. And I remember going to, and there was just, this was when the McDonald's, had just opened in Moscow.

And I remember going there and just seeing the lines around the streets in Moscow. I was like, oh, my God, they must have felt just like when I saw my first birthday. It was so sad. I feel so sad. But it was a good time. That's Tivoli Gardens is Copenhagen, right? Was that a destination? Oh, my God.

Yes. Have you been? No? We have. We have. Yeah, we were there together. That's the best place. I mean, that was my.

Yeah. I've been to Civilly Gardens a lot. I mean, I grew up in the countryside, but my family, my parents were from Copenhagen. So I had my grandparents in Copenhagen. And they were very much working class. So there was one spot at Tivoli Gardens where you would go to. And you know, it's funny at different times, right? But back then, it's so different from how we deal with our kids, right?

But back then, I don't know if it was saying for you guys, you would go in there, You would go to this place where the grownups would sit down. They would order food and drinks and then give you a little bit of money or something. And off you went. And they would sit there for all the hours at Tivoli Gardens until you came back. And then you would leave because why would you go to? I mean, it's a funny thing how it's such a strange generational difference, at least, you know, back then. Right.

My family. I'm not, you know, but, but, but the, the lives between kids and Gromis was, was a very separate one. Like you, you were, you were, that classic thing, you know, seen but not heard, right? Right. And then it feels like everybody, everybody wins because, of course, kids love freedom and parents love when their kids are gone. And now, of course, I mean, I've, I've, like, always been so.

childish. I mean, like, I don't want to miss out. And I want to go do all that, which is, is, it's sometimes they go, am I just, should I just, did I get in the way of the kids just, you know, having fun with that. I guess I'm like, oh, no, let's go up. I want to be, oh, this is what? All that stuff. Why? Yeah. There was a game in Tivoli Gardens, like a midway game where you'd pay, you know, whatever it was, and you'd get three wooden balls. And they had plates, some like, blue and white plates that were held on by these tough metal clips. And you'd throw these wooden balls and try to smash the plates. And I remember, like, we smashed one.

And we were like, what do you win? And they were like, no, no, you don't win anything. You get to smash it for the pleasure of smashing the plate. And we were like, oh, even better. Like, let's keep doing this. And it was so fun. I think it's called if I translate the fun kitchen. It's basically a lot of plates you just get to smash plates.

Oh, that's great. Yeah. The fun kitchen. You're right. What would make a kitchen more fun if you could just destroy it? Yeah, rather than do the dishes. How old were you then when you went? Oh, I mean, late 30s.

We went. So I actually, we went on a trip. That was the Helsinki, right? Yeah. So I ran the Helsinki Marathon in 2007. Okay, the question has to be. What was the time? Not great.

401? I've never done it back. I'm just, that's, yeah, yeah, me either. The funny, I will tell you, my goal was sub four, and so to be 401 tells you how hard a marathon is. Like, at no point could I be like, just kick it out. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, there was literally nothing left.

We had, so our interesting thing was we went to, we started in Copenhagen, and then our next stop was Stockholm. Am I getting this right, Posh? I think we went Stockholm, Copenhagen. But everywhere we went, they couldn't believe we were, they were like, what? Like, when we were in Stockholm, they're like, why are you going to Copenhagen? And we're in Copenhagen, they're like, why are you going to Helsinki? And then like, we were going to go. And then we bailed on Tallinn, Estonia.

And in Helsinki, they were like, Tallinn. But it was really funny. Do you feel like all the Scandinavian countries have a little bit of snobbery about the other one? Oh, well, it's competition. It's friendly competition. But it's funny you said, because I went, this is embarrassing, to Helsinki for the first time. this last year. Get out.

You know, I know. What a great place. Yeah. What a great place. Yeah. It's great. I mean, and I've been doing this other docus series where I travel around the world and we made it to Finland and just incredible country.

I mean, so cool. Yeah. That's the optimist guy to the planet. Exactly. But it's, yeah. But the funny thing you say that there is definitely a competition between like the sweets, especially the Swedes and the Danes, I think. And then the Norwegians, they're just.

They're kind of their own thing because they're so rich and wealthy. Like, you can't really, that's just annoying because they're like, they used to be. But even I went to Norway, I was in Norway with my wife and we were hiking in the national parks and staying in those huts. And everyone would meet, they would say, why are you here? You should be in this other part of the country. And I would say, I'm exactly where you are. Like, why are you here? Don't tell me to be somewhere.

I'm in a national park in Norway. I think I'm doing pretty well for myself. Like any place in Norway is beautiful. It's like it's, you know, what are you talking about? This is amazing. I mean, of sport. Yeah. I don't know.

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because you've got a free trip to all these amazing places. They work you so hard, and I'm assuming that's the case for you as well. Yes, I think the first season that was the hardest thing I'd ever done. We learned a lot from that because it is a global show. That is the ambition. It has to be. But of course, that means you spent so much time traveling, and it is

the travel players are the hardest but so the season two we we wrapped this we did this this year and that was that we got that down to three months. It's six episodes and that was that was manageable but but

but at this yeah no it is it is hard there's no there's no the people and so you went to when we're a balloon did you go to that bar did you go? I said no and I went to bed I just don't do anything at all. I don't do anything at all. But I also, I do love it because I meet, you know, it's one of those things where I meet so many

just incredible people where you just go, holy shit, did that just happen? Did I just see this? Did I just, I'm in India. There's a guy just catching, grabbing a 14-foot king cobra out of a little hut. And I'm standing right next to it. And he says, don't move. It might kill you. And I'm like, okay.

it's just incredible. Like that's like that doesn't normally happen or, yeah, I'm the top of a mountain. I mean, there's so many things that happen in that show that makes it worthwhile that, yeah, I'm just very grateful for. How do you, how did it come about that you are the host of this show? I mean, they obviously had to find somebody

who would be down to do this sort of travel and be amazed by the sort of things. Yeah, no, I think it was a combination of things. of things. I know that I'd done that little like the little show in Greenland and I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed that thing of just having my crew and just meeting people

and trying to just just because the also optimist guy, we meet people that have incredible solutions, ideas, but it really is about the people. It's about getting to know them more than anything and I do enjoy that. So I think they seen that show and then they reached out with this idea and then I said okay it was quite different then I said okay well I'm interesting but it has to be we have to shoot in a completely it has to be

as free as we possibly can meaning you have to do you do all the research you get all this stuff lined up but I want to be in control of how we tell the story I mean how I engage with people and we have to be willing to to follow the story where it wherever it takes it that means that if suddenly we hear someone talking about a snake in another village well let's just go and get that instead of finishing our you know what's scripted and they agree and that and that makes it so much fun to do it's also as you say exhausting but but um yeah it's obviously i love doing it so i mean i feel very lucky to do it what was the show you guys what did you What did you guys do?

What was it you did for one episode? It was called The Getaway, and it was Anthony Bourdain had produced it. I don't think he ever did an episode, but we lived in Amsterdam for three and a half years for myself, close to two years for Seth. After college, we worked for a theater. And so we know that city very well, and they just pitched it to us, like, would you guys want to do the Amsterdam episode? And it was really fun. We sort of, we turned it into it. to a trip, Seth was on Saturday Night Live at the time,

and so sort of brought a bunch of the cast and a few of the writers and was like, hey, my brother and I are going to shoot this thing, but as soon as we're done, why don't you guys, like, spend five days or so? But it was so tiring. And it was at least you're doing a show about, like, the environment. Like, when you do one of those, like, Bourdain shows,

there's so much eating and drinking. Yeah. And so, like, it's like four in the afternoon, and they're like, I remember dinner's coming up. You're like, I can't eat again. You know what I mean? Like, all we've been doing. doing is eating and drinking.

Like, it really spoke to the kind of guy Bourdain was that he could just do those things, like just grind him out. Yeah. I will say we used to do this thing we lived in Amsterdam where there was this, what was it called, All Night Horror? Yeah, the All Night Horror Show, yeah. Where you'd buy, it was a movie theater, and you'd buy tickets, and they would show horror movies all night long.

And I realize, one of the, the first time we did it, we saw the remake of Night Watch. Oh, yeah. But it wasn't your night watch. It was the E. McGregor one. Yeah. But that was, was that your first,

that's a horror movie. That was your first movie, right? Yeah, yeah, that was the very first one I did. Yeah. It's funny. That's fantastic. It's so good.

I met you and you and we did a movie called Plagonged down a couple years later. And there. Of course. He said, don't watch it. You promise me you don't watch it. It's fine. But I mean,

you know, it was, it was, yeah, no, I was very low. That was my, we actually did a sequel to that movie. a couple years ago, which was the most bizarre thing.

I mean, I enjoyed it. Great people, but, you know, that thing about don't go back to, sometimes you're going to leave those things. Right. They were beautiful. Also, that thing, I'm sure you guys, sometimes you go back and you look, because you know, we've, I've been doing this for 30 years. And you see, like, when you start out and you remember the work you did as being like,

this was like cutting edge, like, we were so, you and you, and your friends, and then you watch it, and you go, God, it's old. It's really, it's not, it's no longer like snappy. It's a, it's a, it's, it's, it's not that many shows that, that last, you know what I mean? Like, it's, it's a rare thing. It is, I also think, you know, also, if you make something good, then it inspires stuff and, and, and so then when you go back and watch it, it feels weirdly, even though it's the original, it feels derivative, because you've seen so many people inspired by it, which is

that'll be interesting. I mean, my kids aren't old enough, but I certainly, my plan will be to watch Game of Thrones them, and I'm very hopeful that will. Yeah, maybe will. Can I just say, I just want to shout out, because if any, if there are any listeners who are like, I'm always

looking for a good foreign film, if you're down for that kind of thing, headhunters, this is a movie. I just adore. Yeah, that was, that was fine. I know that I think it was Mark Wahlberg was going to try and remake it for like years and years and years and years.

But I think it's also, sometimes, you know, if a movie turns out really well in a foreign, maybe just let it, let it be, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It's because we all know how difficult it is for these things to actually turn out well. That when it does, it's, yeah, it's. You have, you have two daughters yourself? I have two, 22 and 25 now.

Has your career, which has had obviously a lot of travel built into it due to your profession, did they come with you a lot on things? Or was it more that it was work, so it wasn't worth bringing them alone? I mean, we always tried to, especially when they were younger, we would always try to, you know, you try that classic thing of a two-week rule, which is really good because you want to stay connected until then suddenly you go oh my god we you know something always comes something starts coming up um but we did that but then they would come out for i was in australia a couple of times when the kids would come out i had them only my my wife and another job she was touring with theater one year and then i had the

two kids with me for six weeks in in australia which was amazing um and that happened a couple of times But no, it is, it's always, I mean, I always tell this story when my youngest was only two or three. My wife called me, said, we have to change this. We have to do something. She had, she knocked on the computer screen. Yeah. That's pretty good. You've done enough FaceTime then.

That's time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good. I mean, it's same. And then do both your kids still live in Denmark? They still live in Denmark, both them. And they also, both them are, have already started acting. They want to go down that path. I get it. I mean, if both their parents do it and love it, like I, I mean, it makes sense, right? Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm, you know, I think, yeah, it's like whatever they want to do. It's like, as I keep saying, if, if you're passionate about it, if this is what you want, if it, just whatever you do in life, just love it. you know, life short. Yeah, that's great.

Where would you, would you guys take vacations just the four of you when you weren't working and when your wife wasn't working? Would do... Yeah, I mean, we would do, like, I would go skiing, like skiing. We love that. I would have done that a couple of times. We would always, because we have, we are this mixed family of Greenland and Denmark, so we would always try to get up to Greenland in the summer.

we the south of greenland we we have a place there a small little cabin where we would go um so because it's always it's obviously important for us that that that that you know that they are as greenland as they're our danish our kids so that that was important that they so so we would spend a lot of time at the and then we have this thing every every two years because we have like our family is you know it's kind of denmark and greenland and then we also have some in england So we would gather everyone every two years and rent a big place somewhere in the south where it was warm in Spain or France. And then everyone would come down for a week. And that week would be, so we would be like 28 people.

And then we would have, it would be a lot of competition all week. And so, and then it would always end with the day of the finals, which would, I mean, so we're talking everything from table tennis to badminton, backgammon. I mean, everything you can think. of became a competition. We'll love it. And then, you know, it would be so it would be an isolated place so we would, you know, go shop and then we'd all do the cooking together. And yeah, it's, it's really, really cool. That's fantastic. What about you? Do you both have kids? I have three. I do not. You don't have kids, but do you ever travel together now as grownups? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we'll end up in the same places a lot. We do a trip with our parents every year.

go to Pittsburgh where our father's from, so we go to a Steeler game every year. We might convene out, like on Martha's Vineyard, Seth and his family will be out there for part of the summer, so we try to get together. It's great. And my kids really enjoyed their uncle and like being around. I will say, like, I mean, the biggest thing we all did together was Josh got married a couple years ago, and the kids were very, very excited to be part of that. Of course.

Yeah. No kids at that wedding unless you were a cousin or a niece or nephew of the bride or grim. That was it. So, yeah, so that was really fun. What is the, in the making of your show, what is the most stunning place you went to that you probably would not have gone to otherwise? Oh, my God. There's a few, but I mean, we were just in the last, the season, that season two, I was in Ecuadorian, the Amazon, unforced there. We went out

and stayed with indigenous people and that was just and they took us into this this tree which was I mean this massive beautiful tree which had this you know for them was a very special

place and then they performed a little ceremony which was I mean just it just blew my mind it was so yeah it was just incredible so that would be one The other would be also on that trip in South America, we went to the high Andes. We went up to 15,000 feet for this sunrise over the valley.

That was also, I mean, that was spectacular. How do you get up there? We drove and then we walked the last bit with the headlights. And they kept telling us, like, if you faint, we will carry you down. So don't worry. And it was like time. I would be like, well, guess what? I am still going to worry.

It was because I once did a movie in Bolivia called Blackthorn. And it was kind of a, it was a story about Butch Cassidy that he actually survived. Sam Shepard played him as an old guy. Anyway, that's a different story. We were shooting at very high altitude. And we had a horse faint. We had a stunt guy collapse and had to be carried out. And one day I'm shooting.

and I look over and the focus pulley sitting with oxygen. It was insane. But I learned the trick because the trick was just coca leaves, just a lot of coca leaves. And I'm chewing coca leaves all the time. And I asked him, so this is not going to affect me like cocaine. He said, no, no, no, it's just the leaves. It's fine. It's fine.

Then one day we have to drive from La Paz to Potosi, which is even higher. And this guy, I forget his name, he was from Cuba. He's driving, and I'm sitting next to him, and there's two other actors at the back, and they're sleeping. And he says, and he's chewing this kind of gummy thing. And I said, what's that? He said, oh, it's a coca gum. It's great. It'll keep you awake.

So, you know, we've got to say, six, eight hour drive. And I say, can I have some? He said, yeah, yeah. So I start chewing this thing. And we are talking, playing music, and we're just having a fantastic family stuff. And we're going, and it's like six, eight hours. And I'm like, I'm not, I'm so hyper. But then we're driving.

put a seat. And I'm like, this is, it's just been amazing, and I can feel like everything. I remember,

I had a feeling I hadn't felt for like 25 years. Like, I'm like, I didn't sleep. But, yeah,

so the leaves are okay. The gum is another. Yeah. Yeah. If you've heard the story, based on the story, if you get offered the gum, take it.

Take it. Take it. Take it. I'm at the age now. It's the only way I'm going to get away with it. The driver gave me gum, honey. I don't know what to tell you. It's not my fault.

It's not my fault. This has been great talking to you. It's always such a pleasure. It's been too long since I've seen you, man. I don't know. Well, you know. You stay busy. Yeah, we all.

We're all staying busy. Thank you. And thank you for still doing a fantastic show, by the way. I should. Thank you. And I'm sorry, we are going to start taking the administration's side on Greenland, and I know that's going to be hard for you. Oh, no, no, I get it.

Listen, you've got to take care of your family. I mean, that's... You got to, yeah. Oh, I have. I'm terrified. No, I'm just kidding. And the last thing you told me, come back for another season.

Congratulations. Yes, thank you so much. Yeah, that's coming out now. All right, Josh has a speed round questions for you, and he's going to hit you up. All right, here we go, Nikola. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation, relaxing, adventurous, or educational?

What is your favorite means of transportation? A bicycle. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? The Kermit's. Like Kermit the Frog? Yeah.

I'm just so happy that his last name is all these years. I didn't realize Kermit was his last name. Yeah. Kermit Kermit. I'm from a part of the world where that's normal. Like Anderson. Yeah, yeah. Kermitson.

If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Well, I can only say my wife, clearly. There you go. Smart. What is your dream destination for a family vacation? Oh, and I, you know what? I once, yes, I would go to Deer Valley skiing with my family in Utah. Oh, that's good.

And again, the name of your hometown, I'm sorry? Chupia. Chupia. If you had to get families to come visit Chupia, how would you sell the town, the village? You know how sometimes you go on a trip and you're exhausted? The good thing about Chupia, it's done in five minutes. It's already over.

Check it out. By the time you get there, it's already. It's over. You're like, oh, that was it. And then Seth has our final question. Nicola, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have not, no. Would you want to go?

Yes. Yeah, I believe it. You seem like a guy that would love it. Yeah. What's with the Grand Canyon? Just Josh wants to go and I don't. Why not? Yeah.

Also, we have been. I know, but I just, we haven't, we kind of like looked at it and walked around it. But I'm just like, for people who are like, oh, you got to do the whole Grand Canyon. I'm kind of like, I think I got it. It's pretty big, right? Yeah. It's just you look at it. It's fine.

It's totally fine. They're doing a great job over there. Congratulations to all parties, but it's not for me. Okay. All right, well, thank you for on a two-day trip in London for carving out and hour for us. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much. It was fun.

Great to see you again. Yeah, and we stand with Greenland. I'll say that. Yeah, we can. Actually, that means a lot. Thank you. All jokes aside, we stand with Greenland. Yeah, I love to everybody in Nuke.

I'm so glad I know what. it is and how to say it now. There you go. All right. Thank you, brother. Bye, buddy. Bye. He left that suit and had some red wine.

He offered two bottles of red wine thinking that would make everything better. And neck tattoos that also didn't help. As a boy with his family drove across the Pyrenees, but the roads were a struggle when they had trouble, they were fine because mom was hot. Nikolai has met a Greenlander. He is proposing. What do you mean he's proposing? He's only known her.

Five and a half months. It was love at first sight. It can't be stopped. Nook! Say what? Two travel series? Nook! Say what? It's the capital of Greenland.

King, not the king.