Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - PHOEBE ROBINSON Got Thrown In a Trashcan

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

This week on the pod, Seth and Josh welcome Phoebe Robinson! Phoebe chats with them about growing up in the other Bedford (Ohio), the sweet and funny story about how her parents met, running marathons, the relationship she had with her brother growing up, and so much more! Plus, she talks about her new special, “I Don’t Wanna Work Anymore,” is out now on YouTube! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 ------------------------- Support our sponsors: DeleteMe Take control of your data and keep your private life private by signing up for DeleteMe. Now at a special discount for our listeners. Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to https://joindeleteme.com/trips and use promo code TRIPS at checkout. Blueland Right now, get 15% off your first order by going to https://Blueland.com/trips Mint Mobile Quit overspending on wireless with 50% off Unlimited premium wireless. Plans start at $15/month at https://MintMobile.com/TRIPS Limited time offer. Upfront payment of: $45 for 3-mo., $90 for 6-mo., or $180 for 12-mo. plan req’d ($15/mo. equiv.). Taxes & fees extra. Initial plan term only. Greater than 50GB may slow when network is busy. Capable device req'd. Availability, speed, & coverage varies. See mintmobile.com. ------------------------- Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. ------------------------- Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, everybody. Hey, Pashi. Hey, Sufi. This is, you know, head on over to YouTube, if you're just listening. Oh, yeah. This is a weird one because we're... We're sitting side by side shoulder to shoulder. And we're doing this because we're recording this on January 9th.

Yeah. January 8th, I turned 50. You did. And you flew out here on a red eye last night to surprise me for a day. For a day. I flew on it. I flew. Well, not a red eye.

Well, I guess it was a red eye. I left New York on a 10 o'clock flight, landed in L.A. at 2 in the morning. Yeah. Came over here at 10. Mm-hmm. We went on a long-ass hike. Yeah. But a great hike.

A great hike. I loved it. Good opportunity to chat, catch up. Then we went out. We were coming straight from lunch. Mm-hmm. Where I made the mistake of enthusiastically getting a cocktail. One?

Well, I didn't finish the second one. because I think I realized I made terrible thing. And then I'm taking a red eye back to New York tonight. So I'll be on the ground for a little under 24 hours. But it's well worth it. I mean, talk about a family trip. You know, your brother only turns, are we said? Did we say?

Yeah, I said, yeah, 50. Your brother only turns 51. So I wanted to be with you. And I'm really happy I came. It's been wonderful. But because I'm here, we're recording this intro together. And also, if you're on YouTube, you'll see there's streamers. because your wife, McKenzie, hung up streamers.

Hung up some streamers yesterday while I was in the closet, which is where I record the songs. So I was recording a song for this episode last night, and I was done, and my wife said, you have to stay in there because I'm doing something. So I had to sit in there for a while. Also, we're in my dining room, and you never knew I was in my dining room.

Well, I didn't know you were in your dining room, and now I feel terrible, because right after this, I'm going to use your dining room to do an episode of the Lonely Island podcast, and I did not realize that that meant that you and your wife will have to be quiet. Yeah, she's going to get home. Like right in the middle.

Right. So that's unfortunate. Yeah, but it's okay. This is what we got to do. I appreciate it. Yeah. And let's see, what else? Oh, also, I did surprise you,

but due to the fact that we do podcast together, the surprise got ruined. Right, because we had to record this intro, and we were trying to figure out when to do it if I had to do it alone, and then your assistant, and Chelsea, who's wonderful, feels bad about this. I do not hold it against her.

She, in trying to find a solution, said, well, you guys will be together tomorrow, so maybe you could just do it tomorrow. And I was like, oh, I bet this was a surprise. Yeah. And it's, again, it's totally not her fault. Mm-hmm. I did fire her because.

Well, I mean, I'm going to rehire her. Oh, okay. I do want her to spin out over the course that we know. Not her fault at all. And then, which was, I said to Alexi, oh, you know, the surprise got ruined. And even Alexi said, I didn't know it was a surprise. Yeah.

So that is the issue, is that I shouldn't have asked all the people helping me to arrange. I shouldn't have, I should have told them it was a surprise. You should have said, hey, I'm going to go out to surprise my brother. Yeah, you left that out. Also, I'm noticing that if you're watching on YouTube, these little sort of glittery streamers keep getting the focus. Yeah, so we're going in and out of focus, which is a little bit how I feel after my one and a half cocktails. It's up to, I'll admit, now it's one and a half. Yeah, but it's been a great week for me.

I went up to Mammoth alone Monday through Wednesday and went skiing, and then I came home, woke up here on my birthday. My wife had arranged a falconry experience for me. So we met an owl, a hawk, and a falcon in this park in Los Angeles. I got to put on those leather gloves and have these amazing birds of prey swoop up. and land on my arm. Yeah. It was really cool.

A great lunch out with my lady. We should post a photo of you in the Falcon because it does look like you're dressed the same. Mackenzie told me what to wear. We didn't know, that was a surprise. I didn't know what was happening. But she told me what to wear. And so, yeah.

She was like, wear one heavy glove. Whatever you consider your Falcon arm. You're non-dominant. Save your dominant arm. Wear a fireplace. glove and a chain mill shirt. But yeah, it was very cool. And a great gift, a great, unique gift.

Yeah, that's great good. And then we went on our hike today, and all three of those birds followed us the whole way. We took your dog Woody on the hike. Yeah, he loves a hike, and he does not stop. He says hello to everyone on the hike, and some people not into dogs. You gave me an option. You said, do you want to go in a 45-minute hike?

which I will admit sounded like the long version. Oh, yeah. And then I go, what's the other option? And you said a long one. And I was like, oh, brother. But then you kind of, I mean, again, it's your birthday. I'm so happy we did the long one. Yeah.

I think that also, it's not, you can blame the cocktail if you want, but I feel like it's not a trip for you to where I live if you don't fall asleep on my couch. It's like, I do take great joy. Yeah. Because I know how hard you. you work, how much you travel, and I always try to provide you a place to take a nap because I know you napping on a couch is probably one of your most natural states.

Yeah, I feel like it's when I've returned to what I should be doing. And it should be noted that I've already done a little bit of math and I feel confident that I can bang out my next podcast and still get a little bit of a nap before dinner. And then on the plane. You can sleep on the plane. I got to sleep on the plane. Yeah, well, you have to because you. you're going to hit the ground running there too. Oh, brother.

This was a lovely, we had a lovely conversation. Yeah, with Phoebe Robinson. You know her from Two Dope Queens? Yeah. A great new stand-up special on YouTube. Called I Don't Want to Work anymore. She's been working hard. She's a sort of legendary podcaster.

She's a writer. She's written for a lot of great television shows. You should let her come take a nap here on your couch as well. Oh, yeah. I'd be happy to. This should be a sanctuary for all those. who work hard. Oh, my God, we've got to get rid of these.

We can't get the focus back. Is it that there's two of us, or do you think it is, those? I think it's the streamers. Yeah, yeah. And now the streamers, which are very cute, but we need to, do you want me to tell McKenzie? Because McKenzie, according to you, might want to keep these up for another eight days until her birthday. Her birthday's eight days after. They're not okay.

You can't have streamers up at a home. Yeah, not a home like this. If you have a home where you have a wing that you don't use all the time. Right. And you want to hang up streamers and keep them up for eight days. Or if you live in a nightclub. Yeah, we're going to have to figure out what to do with these for your episode of Lonely Island. And again, I do want to apologize that I'm here for your 50th and I'm going to do multiple podcasts.

But do enjoy, happy birthday. Thank you. I can't believe I got a little brother who's 50 years old. Yeah. considering I'm only 42. Oh, yeah. As I've been told, that's what I look like. Yeah.

When I'm out of focus. All right, thanks for listening, everybody. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Hey, hey. Hi. How's it going? Good.

How are you guys? We're so nice to see you. So I think we're all in the same city. This rarely happens. I happen to be in New York right now. You're a New Yorker now, yeah? Yeah, I'm in Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Fantastic. You're from Bedford, Ohio. Yes, I am. Your research. We're from Bedford. Well, we were from Bedford, New Hampshire. And I'm assuming they're identical. They're exactly the same.

Yep. I'm wondering how many, I bet there's a fair amount of Bedford. I wonder how many states have a Bedford. Chat GPT, do you just say it out loud? Chat GPT. How many? And then when did they get back to you? I'll find out.

We'll figure it up. But you've been in New York forever. Oh my God. Yeah, I moved out here to go to college. So I went to Pratt Institute. So I moved out here, I'm 41. So wait, I moved out here 2002. Oh, my God.

Wow. Right after me. I'm going to leave. I was a 2001er. Okay. Yeah. But you, and then you, I mean, you must have been in L.A. for patches or no? When I wrote on the last season of Portlandia, I lived out there.

Got it. And now, Henry Fred and Carrie are just the best. So I was like so fun. And I've gone and I've visited, but I've only ever truly lived in New York as an adult. That's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. And you're, like, you're prolific with your books, your podcast, your series, and then your latest specials.

When somebody writes a book every two years, I'm angrier than when they do a special. But she doesn't want to do it anymore, Suf. She doesn't want to work anymore. Listen, I work so much to make not a lot of money. So I don't think I'm doing it right. Gotcha. So you're like, I could stop working and do just as well. Well, no, I need to get a sugar daddy.

I can't just stop working. Right, right. But does that even work? Yeah. So, and you have one. older brother? I do. Yeah, he's four years older than me. Back in Cleveland, married, has two kids, lives like 20 minutes from my parents. So it's like really cute. Gotcha. So Bedford was a Cleveland suburb? Is that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, gotcha.

Yeah. And were you guys close? Four years. I'm wondering, like, boy first four year gap. What's the closeness level? We were kind of double trouble. Like, I definitely wanted to do whatever he was doing. And, you know, I wanted to play, like, pick up basketball with his friends. And, you know, I watched wrestling. Like, I got in the sports. Like, every, like, I just wanted to follow him around. Well, that's good. And do you feel like, was he welcoming to you following him around?

Yeah, I think he was pretty good about it. I mean, he definitely always likes to roast me or, like, in high school. I feel there, I distinctly remember him putting me in a trash can. Yeah. Ask him for it? Asking for it out of nowhere. Yeah, of course. You know, when you're the little one,

it's like you don't have the physical prowess, but you got a mouth. Right, right, right. You know how to say sassy things. And so I think he put me in a trash can and I deserved it 100%. Do you think when you're going in a trash can, you realize it's better not to fight it and just to keep all your sort of extremities in? Because you go in the trash can, you get out later. Yeah, you just collapse.

You know, you just let them do them. do his business so then you can move on. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever, like, get so busy with work that you kind of like wish you were back in the trash can and just had a minute to just be by yourself? Just like, oh, what I wouldn't give for a little time in the trash can. Yeah, it's just to rest. Although, the way that the business is right now, I'm like, I feel like I'm in a trash can. Yeah, it's kind of a trash can.

It's nuts. It is not, it's not the most robust time. But you, I mean, shout out to a diversified portfolio because, I mean, you were very early to podcasting. Stand up. I was. I just got to interrupt. You guys have great skin. And I just, it's worth saying because, you know, white people.

White people. Okay, you were going there anyway. You're not old. I'm just going to say white people don't always, like, age well. And I feel like skincare is still not something that white men do. But you guys, your skin is really, it's phenomenal. I'm very, I'm delighted to look at both of you. I'll tell my wife, because I don't do anything.

And she wants to get me on a regime, regiment rather. She's right. She's right, though. My wife sent me to a high-end dermatologist who sold me some very expensive creams. And then I brought him home, and Alexi, I was like, you're never going to put those on your face. I'm like, no, she gave me, you just put a little bit like this and a little bit like this. She goes, I'm literally watching the last time you're ever going to do this. And she was not, she was not wrong.

So it's just wealth that is just keeping, like the security of knowing you have so much money you're checking. Yeah, you don't even have to put anything on your face. Yeah, yeah. Got it. It's so interesting. It's so interesting how it works. The funny thing is Josh is fair skin and I tan up like immediately. So despite our massive simmelian.

Like Josh really, Josh will put an industrial size tub of lotion on his face when he goes out in the sun. Yeah, I do sunscreen. Yeah. Got to. Got to. Yep. That sun hurts me. Yeah.

So growing up, what were your parents doing growing up? Oh, my parents were just, first of all, Phil and Octavia are the cutest people. They've been married for 45 years. together 47, 48. They met at, they were working at a fast food restaurant. And my dad, he always tells me the story. He goes, he goes, I know this sounds crazy, but when she walked into

the room, like, the shape of the room changed, and I knew she was the one. That's great. How old were they when that happened? So this is the crazy bit. So my dad is four years younger than her. So I think they met, yes. So they met, I believe. I believe when he was 16 or 17.

So they were chatting and then he says something. She goes, wait, what college do you? What college do you go to? Like, this isn't tracking. And he like said like his high school, she was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So she truly was like, boy, get the hell out of here. No thanks. And he just was so smitten and thought she was like so wonderful and so smart and so whatever.

And so anyway, so my mom is an accountant. And so when my brother and I were like young, my dad like sort of stopped working and he like really like took care of the kids. He was like a pioneer. Amazing. Out here making lunch, dropping us off at school, helping us with. Like it was just really, they just are such a good team. I like, I like to think that when he was 17, his game was like, I'm going to look after your kids. I'm going to make lunch.

I'll babysit essentially. She's like, you don't sound like you go to college. He's like, I don't. Does this work? That's fantastic. Yeah. And they're still besties, Matley in Love.

What's funny is my, I think I get my sort of like, some of this is astrological because I'm a Libro with like a Scorpio, so it's a lot of energy. But also my dad is sort of like the sentimental one. So he and I went on like a dad, daughter, date to go see that ballerina,

that like action movie. And so we were driving back to my parents' place and he, like, you know, went to go call her to, like, talk to her about something. And he has her and his phone as my love. And I go, oh, I fucking know what my mom has. So I go, I go, hey, mom, what do you have dad as in your phone? And she goes, Philip Sr.

And I go, that sounds like Octavia. Yeah. Just very formal. Oh, my love and Philip Sr. Yeah. That's really good. I, um, it's funny when you say madly in love, because I would say, like, mom and dad are madly in love. Yeah.

But I don't, but I also maybe say more accurate is, like, mad and in love. They're definitely, like, in love. They're just, it does, it seems like maybe there's a little bit more fireworks than Octavia and Phil have. Well, I think why part of why their relationship works is, I think my dad is a little bit of the golden retreat. of the two. Like my mom is very much like straight shooter like, you know, analytical, whatever. And she's always like, oh, yeah, if anything ever happened with your dad, she's like, I would never date again. She's like, I don't have time for that. Like she's fully just like, yeah, me, yeah. Analytical. Analytical posh. Would you say that describes our mom?

No. No. Do you think, I know that your brother is also Phil, so he's Philip Jr. But do you think any part of your mother calling your father, Philip Sr., is to make up for him being four years younger? Yeah, the age guy. She's finally closing the age gap. To sort of be like, he's not that 16-year-old kid that I met that I dated when I was 20. He's a, he's Phillips Sr. Was there any thought, do you think, to you being, I guess you name sons after dads more

than you name daughters after moms. But there was never a chance you were going to be at Octavia, right? No, so my mom wanted all P-names because she really, like, loom. I love my dad so much. And so Phoebe Snow is one of my dad's favorite jazz singers. Oh, yeah, the best. So he named me. Yeah, so he named me after her.

Oh, that's great. So cute. So, yeah. The more I talk about us, I'm like, we're so gross. It's too cute. No, it's the best. We love it. Have they been, can I, and I'll let, turn it back to Josh.

What age did they know what you were going to do? Is it obvious to them that you had, like, a performer, Gene? No. Because I, like, I remember always. like watching like movies and TV shows. I was a voracious reader, all that stuff, blah, blah, blah. But like, I was never like, like I didn't really do much theater in high school.

I didn't, like I wasn't a class clown. Like, I was funny. Everyone in my family's funny. I'm like, I think I'm the funniest. But everyone in my family has a good sense of humor. So there was never anything that was sort of foreshadowing. Like, oh, even when I was like, oh, when I'm, you know, go to New York to go to college,

it was never like, oh, that's because she's going to really become a performer. And I accidentally got into stand-up. Like, I never thought about doing it. I didn't think it was, like, a real job, you know. And a girlfriend of mine, this was like 2008, she wanted to take a class at Caroline's, but she didn't want to do it by herself. And so she was like, why don't you just come and do it?

And I was like, stand-up is like so lame. And she was like, you hate your day job, just do it with me. And so that's how I ended up doing stand-up. It was a happy accident. That's great. Yeah. And did you love it right away? I did. And did you?

And I feel like if parents think they're funny and a kid tells them, oh, I'm doing stand-up now, I think they feel very, it's almost like, oh, finally, somebody figured out how funny I was. I let my child do it. My parents were pretty supportive. Like, I think they've been supportive with me and my brother. I think they've always wanted us to sort of follow our bliss and just, as long as we're able to support ourselves, financially, then they were, like, pretty on board, which is, like, nice.

A lot of people don't have that. A lot of people have parents who just, like, fight against whatever their kids' dreams are, and I always seem that that is, like, rough. Yeah. Well, I think also if you're succeeding in stand-up and your parents, I'm guessing, would come to see you occasionally, there's that feedback of an audience that's kind of hard to deny, like, if you're doing well and if you sort of are able to keep doing it, I imagine that your parents are like, oh, I guess this is a thing.

Like the proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is the laughs that are coming out of these audiences. Yeah. And I think they saw me do a show in Cleveland. This was maybe, I think, my second year doing stand-up. And I did a good enough job, and everyone laughed. I would never have them see me now because my material is just so. It's too much. Like I told her, I was like, don't watch this special.

There's nothing here. for you. That's great. Just don't do it. Like, Thanksgiving does not need to be awkward. Just support. Give me a heart emoji and a text and that's it. Yeah, yeah.

Go ahead, Josh. Well, I was going to get into trips, but keep going. Well, I was going to ask just before you get into trips, were your parents from the area? Did they grow up in Ohio as well? Yeah, they grew up in Ohio. So, and, yeah, I don't know if they'll always stay there. I think they will. I do think there is a dream world

where if my dad could just like buy a farm somewhere and like no one talked to him I think he'd be into it you know my mom would be there but he just does the outside world he's like I'm so good and I'm like I get it I get it I would say that veer's pretty hard from our dad posh

he doesn't he does not need a farm No. He might go to a fireman if he heard Phoebe's dad was there. He'd be like, oh, I'll go tell him a story. Yeah.

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Yeah. What's that drive? What's that drive from Cleveland to Niagara Falls? Oh, God. That's like a long drive. I was so young. I was maybe like seven or eight. So I don't know.

I just know, like, you know, my brother and I being in backseat, obviously, giving each other shit the whole time. and our parents would just be like, can you guys just stop? I truly think my brother and I stopped giving each other shit at like, like a year and a half ago. Like, it's really been, like, they have been like, like, my parents would be like, we are going to die. Are you guys still going to do this shit? So good. Were you, was it just verbal barbs or were you taking swings at each other back there?

It's the whole like, oh, I'm touching you. I'm not touching you. The like squeezing each other's arms. It's sort of like talking over each other. Like he would always just be like you were adopted. Like nobody, like he would just like nobody wanted you. Like for years he would be like nobody wanted you. And I would be like emotional terrorism because I would like take it to heart.

I was like a little kid. I'd be like, mom. And they'd be like stop telling her no one wanted her. I feel like when you say. a long drive to Niagara Falls, I feel like, is only worth it if you could take the falls all the way home. You know what I mean?

Like, top of a ski mountain. Yeah. And, like, I feel like the real failure was made to not, like, sort of dig out, sort of, just to, like, four major cities. Like, from the falls, you could take it all the way to Cleveland. A log flume ride.

Yeah. Yeah. Wait, of the two of you, who terrorized who? We weren't big terrorizers. I was probably more violence. The answer is Josh, but we'll let him. It'll be more healthy for him therapeutically if he gets there on his own. Keep going. I would, uh, I think I'd freak out more and maybe like, you know, take some swings. Uh, I chased, I chased him with a golf club once.

Yeah. I was very little. I mean, that golf, we were like, that was before we left Michigan, so I was before I was five. You chased me with a golf club in New Hampshire. Did I? Yeah. Do you hit me with a golf club in Michigan? You chased me. But that was a mistake. Yeah, yeah. I'm not blaming you for hitting me with golf club, except for the fact that it was mini golf and you swung like,

your fucking Jim Palmer. You shouldn't stand right behind somebody with a golf. Yeah. Stand behind someone with a golf club. Yeah, well, obviously, I learned my lesson. Josh was also a real, like, I don't know, just like a naggy rules kid. And so, like, when we were, like, teenager,

when I was like, let's say 17, our parents went away. and I had like four friends come over and they brought like one six pack with like three beer like I think three beers still left on it and Josh like we were like just literally four guys splitting three beers like pouring it in the cups

Josh came down was like you're not my brother I mean it was I was coming out of the whole just say no Nancy Reagan era I don't think she was like I don't think it was just say no to Coors Light

Like you're the only one who thought like Nancy didn't go hard enough I had never seen drugs Phoebe I had never seen my big brother drink a beer And I was shook Oh my God That's good use of shook I applaud you on that And now I'm 51

And I binge drink in a popular YouTube segment So yes Guess what? Backfired bro So Niagara Falls What about were you guys Did you have Were grandparents a part of your life?

Oh yeah no Because of tragic endings Are just bad people Bad people Oh no Yeah both my parents came from like That's better Josh Than like good people who died super young

Yeah Yeah Yeah they were just like hot garbage And so my parents were very much Like one to protect us, which I think was ultimately like the right. So you never, like, did you see them on holidays or anything? I remember meeting my dad's mom once.

Gotcha. And I have, like, I think one or two pictures with her, but, like, that's it. Like, it was just a very sort of, like, it was, like, succession, but no one had money and there was, like, nothing to give. Yeah. HBO's a pass. Yeah. What about succession?

Oh, your shows about hurt feelings? No. You know how people like fancy locations? Nobody goes anywhere in this one. We're just staying in the inner city of Cleveland and it's sad. Yeah. Our grandmother, our grandparents on our mom's side got divorced and then our grandmother remarried. and we knew our step-grandfather fairly well.

We only met our grandfather once. Yeah, I don't... And I have no real memory of it. Yeah. But I think it's the same thing. There's like one photo, and it feels like one of those pioneer family photos where they just took it so it exists.

Like nobody... Like, there's no emotion as being felt other than, like, we are now taking the photo to show that we were here. Quick, gather for the photo. The photographer is getting back on his... wagon. So Niagara Falls, do you have any memory of what you did up there or it was really just

the getting there and the getting back? I hope you saw the falls. Yeah, we saw the falls. Could you imagine if we did everything but that? Yeah. We went and got buffalo wings at three different places and then we were like, ah. Did you go on the boat? Did you go on the maid of the mist?

Yeah, I think we did the maid of the mist. You know, one of the things that I do remember about, it was either that trip or a different family trip. So my brother, and I love him so much, he's such a good egg, such a good person. But when he was younger, he, like, only wanted to poop at home. Yeah. Like, he never wanted to use any other bathroom, any other time. And so I feel like we did, like, a weekend trip.

And he was like, I'm not pooping in this hotel. Oh, wow. I get, like, a restaurant, but I feel like a hotel becomes your home. Yeah, he got backed up. It was not even a proxy home. Oh, wow. No, he got backed up. But it didn't end well for him.

It was like, you've got to take a shit. Yeah. Like, just, it's fine. It's the whole town who cares. Like, I'm just not in, I'm not in control of that. I can't say, like, I'm shutting it down for the weekend. And I'll get back to this once I return home. Real quick, Phoebe is going to jump in to say, Josh is shit his pants multiple times as an adult.

And not because of alcohol. Not because of alcohol, but also not. In over 10 years. Okay. I shit myself. So wait, see, over 10 years, you're 49 now. Yeah, so I'm sorry. It didn't happen when he was an adult.

He was a kid. I didn't do the math right. I'm on your side. I'm on your side. I shit myself during COVID. So it is fine. You know, I happen to me to you. I don't know why I'm judging Josh.

I went on a... I bet it happened to both of you more recently than it happened to me. It's true. I was on a run during COVID. and I realized, like, I wasn't going to make it home. And then I think I made it, like, to the driveway, which is a heartbreaker. Because it was like a five-mile run. So if I'd just done 4-9-7, I would have been fine.

And I remember going up and my kids were really little and they were like at the door being like, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy. And I was like, get him away! Get out of that doorway! Not a great moment. You know, Ronnie, this is a thing because I'm a marathoner. And people who don't run don't understand how much a poop schedule. Like you get obsessed with the timing of your shit.

It's crazy. Yeah. Now, okay, because we've taken some trips. I've run a couple of marathons. And we made trips out of them. Which ones? They're weird ones. Leiden in Holland, Helsinki and Finland, and then Stockholm and Sweden.

All the classics. What do you mean? No, it's just like it's, but we picked ones that were fun to go to. Like places I wouldn't have gone to others. How many, have you ever done one because you wanted to take a trip to that place? Or do you just try to pick one that you think is a good vibe? That's all my list. So I've done four.

I'm about to do the Philadelphia Marathon in two weeks. I would say my favorite was probably Tokyo. That was incredible. Oh, so there you go. I mean, that's fantastic. That was so fun. Oh, my God. It's the best time.

Incredible. All right. So for people who don't know, and like, again, we're in the, obviously a week away. or 10 days after the New York City Marathon. Everybody who does it talks about how amazing it is. Have you done New York? Yeah, I did it last year. Okay, gotcha.

So hard. Oh, my God. It's so funny. Like, everybody says how hard it is. Is the hard part that you just forget it's not flat? It's that it has the most rolling hills of all the majors. So it's like you don't really get like a lot of relief. And for me, I had shin splints because I was over training and like under-requited.

covering. So I was trying to rest as much as I could. So I was like maybe 80%. Yeah. So I would say the first 16 miles I was cooking. I was like, oh, I'm going to PR. This would be a personal best. Like, oh my God. And then like my right shin start to fill me, then my right hamstring, then my right ankle. And I was, you know, I like flew my parents out. I was like, this is going to be so great. We'll have like a New York moment. And we were on a group chain. And I was like, guys, I think I'm in trouble here. And I was like, I started crying. I was like, this like is kind of hell. My parents like, just

finished, just finish. And it was hard. And the hardest part, people say it's going over the Queensboro Bridge because you're just alone with your thoughts, which I think is like totally fine because then you go off on the first half and the wall of sound. It's amazing. It is that you're going through Central Park.

And so, like, the hills don't stop. I'm like, I want this to be over. A friend of mine said the same thing, which is like, you Jesse goes, when you think about going through Central Park on any day other than the marathon, you never think it's hilly. And then all of a sudden it's the marathon, you're like, the fuck? Yes. Yeah, so it's really, I want to do it again.

And I would say, you should do it. I think you will love it. Did you grind it out? Did you make it? Did you finish it last year? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I got it. Yeah. I don't know how I did it, but I did. I overtrained for Stockholm. You were there, Josh. I wasn't there for Stockholm. You were there. No.

I don't go to marathons, you don't finish. Right, so Josh has spoiled the ending. But I had a really bad IT. I over-trained IT band. And so I had to like fully stop training for a month leading up to it. But we had the trip. And I was like, maybe I'll just see how I do. You know what I mean?

And I same thing. And I made it about 10 miles faster than my pace. And then like collapsed against like what was probably a Volvo. And I just remember feeling like, thank God. I'm anonymous here. And then a Swedish teen went by. He was like, guys,

at Mars. I don't really, and nothing's worse, by the way, than finding your way home. Like, wearing a marathon bib and, like,

walking through the streets and trying to find a place to, like, cross where everybody's running to get back to your hotel. It was awful. So what mile did you, did you DNF?

Like between 10 and 11. It was like, once my knee collapsed, I could barely, like, walk. It felt like a, it was like, It was like not like pain.

It was like a crumbling of it. But Tokyo. Had you been to Tokyo before? Or was that the first? Never been to Tokyo. It was amazing. It was, the food was so good. Yeah.

That was kind of, it's a bucket list destination for me. So did you go? How far in advance do you go to make sure your clock's right for the marathon? I got there three and a half, four days beforehand. And even like after the marathon, I was taking. taking a nap every day. Like, it was just so hard to, like, adjust. And then when I came back here, it took me two weeks to get back on New York time.

And people were like, are you sure you're not ill? And I was like, you do understand that you, when you leave Tokyo, you fly back to New York and you're back in the same day in which you left. Your body's like, what the fuck is this? Right. You're confused. Yeah, it's a weird one. It's so weird.

Who was your crew over there? Did you go over solo or did you have other runners you were with or friends, family? I had a girlfriend. Her name is Sean. We met because I'm a big YouTube fan and she used to work for YouTube.

So we ran it together. And then I know this Peloton instructor, Jeffrey, he also ran it. But he was like much faster than us. But it was just such a magical, it was such a great experience. What is great about New York is that people turn the fuck up.

The energy is amazing. Everyone's yelling and screaming. and you're like, you're like, yosh, gosh, shah, shah, shah. And, like, Tokyo, like, they don't turn up. Like, they turn up, like, they are there, but they're not turning up. You know what I mean? Like, they're not, like, screaming. They're not, you know, doing it.

It's more of a reserved culture. Yeah. Yeah. But it was, like, so fun. You're, like, running through the city of Tokyo. You're like, what am I ever going to do this again? So it's amazing. Yeah, yeah.

And did you sort of take advantage of being there other than the running? Were you, did you go? Oh, God. Were you a tourist? Yes. I did like a, I did like a tea ceremony. I ate my weight in sushi. I went through like all these markets.

Like I went to like museums. Like I like did so much. Like it was just such an incredible experience. And it was so like, like I remember getting like walking down into the subway station. And I was like, why is it clean? Yeah. I was like, where's the trash? Where's someone, like, screaming?

Like, it was so, I was like, New York is so fucking ghetto. Like, if you go overseas, you're, like, New York is, like, kind of a third world country. Like, we literally, like, we're chaos and we get everything. We have, like, all this, like, energy. But, like, Tokyo was, like, light years ahead. It's funny. I think, like, for people who, like,

were in New York in the 70s, they're like, it's actually really nice now. But, like, and then you compare it to anywhere literally in the world. It's like, it's not that nice. No. The number of. Of rats, I see rats all the fucking time. Yeah.

I don't get it. And they say if you see one rat, then 10 rats have seen you. Yeah. That's actually probably what they say. Yeah. I think that's pretty true. I was saying like this is how bad the rats are is like when Eric Adams hired a rat czar, he didn't do it. Like he didn't do it quietly.

Like you think like you wouldn't want to get the word out to the whole world that like we needed a rat czar. But there's like, he's like, he's like, he's like. yeah, we had to bring somebody in. They're just like the rat guy now. And I'm like, don't do a press conference. So embarrassing. I've been to other states and people have been like, oh, I want to come to New York,

but I've heard about the rats. Yeah. So that's that's Eric Adams' contribution is he really got the rats of it all out there. Yeah. The best is when you see one and you're like, that couldn't have been around. That's far too big.

You know what I mean? Like you see the shadow of like, I was clearly... That's a capybara. Yeah, it's a capybara. Barra. So, honey, call the zoo. See if a Capi Barra's loose.

I've met a Capi Barra. Have you ever guys ever met a Capi Barra? You told me about that. What? We went to Uruguay, not just for the Capi Baras, but then we met one. Wow. That's so cool. I met at a Capi Barra.

I was at a party. You went to its house for a tea? Yeah. Well, it was somebody else's house, but we were both friends with the same guy who was having a wine tasting. Can I come to can I join one of your family trips? Because you guys go great places and I'm not in the best place financially to be taking all these trips. So if I could just tag alone. Sure, sure, sure.

And I will cover snacks. Great. I got you on snacks. Yeah. Well, back to some of your family trips. Where else would you guys go? Would you take sort of like a spring vacation? Like during spring break, would you always try to go somewhere in the summer?

or like what were your summers like? We weren't summering, babe. We didn't have the money to do that. I know you weren't summering, but you could go somewhere. We didn't summer either. Yeah, we just stayed home. I didn't say it as a verb. You did.

I mean, I summer now. Oh, I summer now. We would do like, you know, like state fairs and stuff like that. Like, we would do, like, one tank trips. That was, like, a big thing that we would do, where it's like you can go somewhere, like, pretty easy and come back home. And so, like, I think what I always liked about our family, is that we were always just such a little core unit.

And we actually, like, didn't fight much on family trips. I know it sounds like, that sounds bizarre because usually, like, that brings out the sort of, like, fight. Like, even like, at, like, Real Housewives, like, the biggest fights happen on the trips. Yeah. But, like, we didn't have that. But we, like, fought in other ways. But we're okay now. We would not fight on trips.

Josh and I certainly never fought on trips. Did you, you mentioned being a reader. Like, I will say my summers. When I think back to, like, what did I love most about my summer? It was, like, being in my bedroom with no homework stress, like, just reading a book. And, like, sometimes I think, like, if there's anywhere I could be, it would be, like, in that room. Just with the windows open. Yeah, I mean, look, I got all these books over here.

No, I think that's just... You had somebody come in for the podcast to put a bookshelf up. Did you wait wash all those books? You always color coordinated your bookshelves? Listen, I do and people hate it. And they're like, how will you find a book that you? I'm like, I'll find it. I'll find it.

It's not a big deal. It's not the New York Public Library. It's an apartment. I also think there's a little bit of joy in looking at a book. I think like the fun of a bookshelf is that moment of like running your fingers over the spine. It's looking for. It's delicious. I love it.

What were you reading as a kid? Like what was your, what was your early? Oh, I was kind of reading everything. Like my dad is a big. big supporter of libraries. So like he is all about, let's go to the library, let's check out some books. It's like check out like CDs and like movies

and I would like do all of that. So it's such a like, that is, I know this sounds like a, oh, like to sort of romanticize the past, but I do really think this like, the fact that you can get information at your fingertips rather than going to a location that had all of the physical information is such a like,

it's such a bummer. There's something great about the Dewey Decimal System and smelling these old-ass books and like taking them out and being like, oh, this is like such... Yeah. It's an event. I'm getting a new book.

It's an event. Our mom, I think, to this day, still will reserve a book at our local library. Absolutely. Love it. And there was a big... She would bring home...

Because we had a video story, like pre-blockbuster video story, but there was also like foreign films were at the library. And so she'd come on with like foreign films and like Anita Baker CDs. Like I mean, it's so funny to be like, I'm going to, we're going to listen to Anita Baker this week while I make dinner. And watch Babette's Feast. It's also just nice to think about the things you would do.

Like just like when, I mean like, oh, you know, what are we going to do? I'll let's, you know, we're going to go to the library. And I used to love it. Again, I would just like. It's the best. Yeah. The scholastic book fairs that we used to have. Like, you know, every kid would maybe get like two or three books and they'd come through.

And it was just so exciting to get your shit. My son's school has the book fair and it's the best. And I've written a children's book and they had it at the book fair. And last year I was there and one of my son's friends bought it. And I said, you want me to sign it for you? And he said no. So that wasn't. I wish I'd had to gone out on that limb.

Yeah. Nice, nice fresh book, Sufi. Yeah, he's like, yeah, you buy one and draw all over it. But yeah, I just, because I did not, I don't know about y'all, I did not really care for school. And so I didn't always like the things that we were assigned, especially like in high school. So I always wanted to read. Like I remember in high school, I went to this predominantly white high school, Gilmore Academy. It's a great school. And they, this was.

Oh, God, I think this was like, we had assigned summer reading. So I think it might be going into sophomore year. And we were assigned Tom Broca's The Greatest Generation. And I'm like, babe, it wasn't great for me. Well, baby, I want to apologize. I have the generation wrong. I know. First time I got to do my brok on the pod posh.

Yeah, I know. You beat me to it. And I think yours was going to be better. But I was definitely... Back with more in the Obama. This is Tom Brok. I have to say it in all their nose. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.

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What are some highlights at the Ohio State Fair? Do you look forward to anything? Or you like, we're just going and I shouldn't even say that I'm excited. Well, it's so fun. Like there's a picture of, oh, gosh, how old was I? It's like the cutest little Polaroid. But it's a picture of my brother and I on donkeys. And, like, I could not have been happier.

I was, like, thriving. I was like, this is what life is all about. Like, I fully loved it. So I think it was like the animals part of it. It felt like very fun and cool. In a way that like going to the zoo, I always felt like they're, you know, like in jail. But I'm sure like at a state fair, it's like also like not great. But I just felt like they're out in the grass.

So it must be like, okay. But yeah, I think it was like that. And it was like the food because my parents. It's like one of those country club prisons for like white collard criminals. You know, it's still jay. But, like, it's just nice. Exactly. And, like, the food, I remember, you know, just, like, eating, like, so much cotton candy and just, like, funnel cake and, like, all the stuff that, like, my parents are, like, they're healthy eaters.

They're healthier now because they're, like, vegan. But back then, they just, like, didn't want us to have, like, a ton of junk food. But they would, like, let us, like, run free at, like, a little fair. Nice. Josh, you're not going to, you're not going to jump all over this vegan news? Wow. I'm vegan, Phoebe, but I don't want to lord it over everyone, but Seth wants me to. That's also, also why your skin is good.

That is also why your skin is good. I'm telling you, you're doing the right things. Thank you. And if you saw me in prison, you would rescind your comment about mine. I currently have a vegan filter on my Zoom box. When did they switch to veganism? Now, since Josh won't ask, I'll jump all over this. Like, at what point in their life?

And was it like, was it like health-related? Yeah, I want to say 11. So maybe sometime in my 20s, I think they were just like when they ate me, they were just like, we just were starting to feel so sluggish and tired and so they were just like, we're done.

And that makes total sense. I'm just, I feel bad eating meat. I really do, but I can't make this. I was a pescatarian for like a year and I was like, this is cute, but this is annoying. I like to be able to go to any restaurant I don't eat anything and I have to think about it. I don't actually even like the taste of meat.

I just get off on eating a dead thing. In front of me, ideally, in a perfect world. I have to, like, choke it down, but it's just the power. I just feel the power. Does Josh being vegan, like, inspire you to, like, want to try it at something? It does. No, as much, like, grief as I give him. Like, I'm always asking, because Josh has said, like, vegan food is going to be.

gotten like exceptionally better. Like I think like, you know. It's got a way to. I mean, it's always getting better. But yeah. Got a ways to go. Yeah. But it's always getting better.

And I certainly think it's one better for me, two better for the environment. So I'm, I, for comic offense, I will poo-poo it. But I do. I would love to be able to have the, the willpower to do what Josh has done. Okay. Seth, let's, let's make a commitment right here right now. We are going to try in January, 2026. for that month.

What about 2027? It's like late. It's November. Like you don't give me enough time to eat my meats. He has a fridge full of meats. He's not going to be done with it by January. January 26, do we try for a month?

What do we try? For a month. We are vegan for a month. All right. Okay. Give it a go. I think it'll be, we're going to hold each other on

to this via our assistance because we don't need to directly talk to each other. No vegan. I'm also, but can I grow a mustache? If I'm doing that, could I also grow a mustache? I want to do one of those fun things that people do in a month. So when it's over, I'm going to be like just super jacked with a big old mustache. I think we might like it.

I think we might like it. I don't think you're wrong on that. I'm sure I'd feel better. And that's not a bad thing. Phoebe, I hate to keep swinging back around to it, but on the family trip front. Yeah. Any other classic trips that you guys took on these single tank trips? Would you ever go to a lake?

Did you ever go over to Cincinnati to see what they got? No lakes because none of us swim. Such a stereotype. I know. I'm so sorry. Would you go into Cleveland to like see shows or anything like that? Oh, yeah. We would go see like the Nutcracker.

We would go see the Cleveland Calf. You would go do all that kind of like the typical like rock roll hall of fame. So you miss, but like is my timeline right that you missed all the fun Cleveland Cavs times, right? If you're 02 in New York? Yeah, I mean, yeah. But I would fly back. Okay. And see when LeBron came back and won the finals for us, I flew back.

My brother went. Did you go to a game? Did you go to the game when they won it all? That's, I mean, that is. It was like not the game they won at all. I think it was a game before that. And this is I, my brother always laughs when I tell the story. So we went and I was like, I always want to treat him to, he's such a sports person,

calves, browns, he loves him so much. He always wants him to win a championship. So I was like, I'm going to take you to the finals. We're going to go. And so we're standing. And I got like, good seats, you know, like they weren't amazing, but they were like pretty, like we were pretty close to the action. And this white lady comes over us and she goes, oh, how did you guys?

get these seats. And I go, I fucking paid for them. He goes, he goes, why would you say that I heard? I was like, why is this white lady worried about our fucking seats? It's crazy. It's a crazy question. How do you think I got the seats lady?

Yeah. The fuck is wrong with you. You were like, well, all right, we found a lamp in the sand. And my brother said, that's someone else's ram. And I said, well, hold on. And I picked it up. And when I did, a genie came in.

All right. Speed round. All right, Phoebe, you can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation, relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Oh, relaxing. What is your favorite means of transportation? I actually like to walk around. Can I say that?

I prefer walking cities. Yeah, that's great. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fixed. other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh, the Obamas. Great. Great. That would be amazing.

Yeah, yeah. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Oh. Oh, it would be my niece. Great. She is so funny and she is so smart. How old is your niece? Yeah.

She's going to be 12 this summer. She's great. Yeah, yeah. Has she ever come to visit you in New York City? She's coming next year. And she's very excited. She's very excited. Yeah, I'm going to take it to Broadway.

Is this something that was always like when you're 13 you'll come? Has this been on the books for a while? Yeah, because I feel like when you're too much of a kid, like coming to visit to New York is like too much. Like I want her to like have fun and remember things. Yeah. Yeah. You are from Bedford, Ohio.

Am I correct in that? Yes. Uh-huh. If you were pitching Bedford, Ohio, as a place for some families to come visit, how would you pitch it? Oh, my God. Okay, Beffer Heights is so fun. Listen, there are houses everywhere with driveways. People are playing basketball.

People are playing skip it. The food is a solid six, babe. You're never going to have a bad meal. No fives. No, fives. But you won't have a great meal. And you know what? that's okay.

Yeah. Maybe you don't, you don't need to have great stuff all the time. Yeah. There we go. They'll never go to a restaurant in bed front and be like,

I never have to eat again. You'll definitely want to eat the next day. And then Seth has our final questions. Phoebe, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I haven't. I want to go.

Oh, that was the follow-up is do you want to go? All right, great. You want to go? Yeah. Oh, my God, yes. You know, again, a marathoner,

your favorite means of transportation. Do you think you'd be one of those people who would like go for it and be like, I'm going to hike to the bottom, do all that stuff that crazy people do? I feel like I would only go once. So I would want to try certain things. I will say I am scared of heights, so it would

be a very emotional journey for me, but I would do it. Okay, great. Well, we support you making that choice. And it's been lovely to see you and to talk to you. This has been absolutely wonderful. Thank you for having me. Bye. Bye.

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