Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - RICH EISEN Is On The (Fake) Board of Staten Island Tourism

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

Rich Eisen joins Seth and Josh on the pod this week! He talks all about growing up in Staten Island (and pitches what an ideal trip there looks like too!), stories from going to camp in the Catskills, his parents' influence on his career, what sports teams his kids root for, fond memories of traveling to Europe with his own family, and so much more! Rich also talks about his grand return to ESPN: The Rich Eisen Show, out now! Support our sponsors: If you believe in public education, facts, and actual freedom of religion — and from religion — it’s time to get involved.  Go to ffrf.us/school or text the word, “FAMILY” to five eleven five eleven.  Get a huge discount on a 2 year plan plus 4 additional bonus months at nordvpn.com/familytrips  It’s risk free with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee and it’s the best deal on the internet!  Keep it classic and cool this fall—with long-lasting staples from Quince. Go to Quince.com/TRIPS for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, everybody. It's Sufi Sanz Pashi. He is currently in Ireland with McKenzie. They're going to a wedding next weekend, and they've made a real trip of it. And he's sending me a lot of videos to the whole family, to Panka Erie and hurry as well. Of the two of them, it seems like the scope of their trip thus far has just been taking hikes in the windiest weather anyone. has ever taken a hike in. This is what most of the videos sound like. Hey, everybody. I texted them the other day with this question. Do they not have inside in Ireland? Because if I was daydreaming about a trip to Ireland, it would be me in a pub with a big old Guinness

and not what their trip seems to be, which is just a sort of light soaking of their clothes as they walk through. You know, undeniably lush settings. It's very beautiful. But is anything really beautiful if this is all you hear? They sent me a picture of their hotel room, and it was just a thousand sweaters hung over different things to dry.

I would say if there's a word that I, that pops into my head when I think about their trip so far, it's damp. Speaking of Ireland, look at this tangent for me. Really, look, I don't kinda like this just me. I hope you guys are enjoying this as well. Maybe Pashi is redundant. You know what's nice?

Everybody knows who's talking this time, just me. I had Colin Farrell on my show yesterday with Margot Robbie. there in a great new movie, a big, bold, beautiful journey. And here's the thing. My favorite movie is in Bruges, it's a Mark McDonough movie starring Colin Farrell. And I've talked at length about it

with Colin over the years. And I meant to ask Margo when they were out if she had seen it. And the interview ended it, I had forgotten. And then I said, oh, do you like in Bruges? And she goes, oh, my God, I love it. And Colin said, ah, you don't love it as much as Seth here.

He fucking went to Bruges. And that's true. And that wasn't a good Irish accent. But Alexei and I, I loved in Bruges so much. We actually took a trip to Bruges for the purposes of recreating a movie about a couple of hitmen. So it wasn't the most romantic trip, but we have lovely pictures about it. Of it. Rich Heisen is on the show today.

And Man O Man, does he have a smooth, melodious voice that I hope you will enjoy a great deal? And yeah, at this point now, especially after that, you know, shitty Irish accent, I do think we need Pashi back, and I don't know, can't come back soon enough. All right, thanks everybody. Enjoy Rich. I just got to turn my mom via camera. Oh, I hear that sultry voice. I can't see him yet. I can't see him yet. I can't see him yet. I know he's here.

I don't think we've turned our camera on is what it says. That's how early it is. You haven't even turned your camera on. Oh, I'm at my set right now, Seth. Oh, look at that. I am not playing. You're, you're, I'm sorry that I'm there we are. Gosh, you really are at yourself.

I'm not messing around. By the way, I want to say every time we talk to people on sets, it somehow takes longer for them to turn the camera on than if they were at their home. I have people for that now that I'm on Disney. Dude, welcome back. Welcome back. Thank you.

I appreciate that. Rich, should we open with what we have in common or what our differences are? Whatever you'd like. No, it's your choice. It is your absolute choice. So, all right, let's start with our differences. What's that?

What are our differences? Well, you're a Jets fan, and we're still. I understood. So Sunday it was on like the proverbial Donkey Kong. I understand. No, you know what? I mean, as I've matriculated and grown older and have 32 teams that I have to talk about for the NFL network, my Jets fandom has waned a little bit.

Plus I have to call a Jets game in London later this year. So I got to everybody always thinks when you call a football game that you're rooting against their team. It's called the Joe Buck disease that everybody thinks that you root against them. But that said, congratulations to your Steelers, Seth Myers. And let me just say I do, I never get even the slightest tinge of homerism from you in regards to your New York upbringing. And I mean that sincerely. I appreciate you saying that.

You know, because let's be honest, Mike Greenberg wears it on his sleeve. Literally, literally, literally. He puts on a jet jersey. He literally wears sleeves with the jersey on. But I guess, but the New Yorker still comes out of me if you cut me off. in traffic. That's where it comes out. But you are in L.A.

Yes, sir. So I'm wondering, like, the one thing I'll say about New York cruise, and when I say cruise, I mean the crews that work on our television shows. Yes. I would say they're 99% Jets fans. And last year, one of our guys on my crew bet me in the Steelers' Jets game last year that if the Jets won. I'd have to have a Jets mug on my desk.

And if the Steelers won, he would get a tattoo of a Steelers' logo on his arm. Wow. That doesn't seem... Very bad gambler. Very bad gambler. And then Steelers won, and I said, you do not... I was like, Kenny, you do not need to do this. Yeah.

And he's like, I'm a man in my wood. And he's got a full Steelers tattoo. Now, by the way, not Kenny's first tattoo. Right. He had... It's a little... You got to go looking for it. Previously inked?

He was previously inked. Okay, very good. And then what we have in common, but I'm not sure if it counts because you're a Michigan man famously, but you did go to Medill. I did. Northwestern University. Can we yell a go-cats to somebody who's just Middil? You know what? I'm happy to do that.

You're happy to receive it. I'm happy to receive it. Northwestern was a big year for me. Going to Medill School of Journalism was a massive, massive watershed moment in my, you know, you know, journey, for the lack of better phrase. Since we are on a podcast about trips, do you see what I just did? Somebody's good. Somebody, what you could tell with someone hosts one.

I can't tell with someone else one. I can't turn it off, man. So, but yeah, it was, it was big. Although I did, I wasn't in Evanston. Yeah, I was wondering. My quarter was in Chicago on Lake Shore Drive, which was awesome. Yeah, yeah. You know, and I loved it.

I absolutely loved it. So I do have a place near and dear for, the purple of Northwestern, that is for sure. But you would not, you would not call yourself torn when Northwestern plays Michigan. Not at all. As a matter of fact, I mean, if Northwestern Beach, Michigan, that's a bad day in my life. A very dark day. Fortunately, you haven't had men.

Top 10 for you. I'm pretty sure I can name them all. But like your children, right? Like, it's the same thing. You can't choose one that's a favorite. I thought you were saying it was like, my children, because it's only happened three times. No, nice. Now, you, uh, and I, we're going to get to your upbringing here in a second.

Sure. You're, um, I notice you're, you have three kids, boy, boy, girl. Yes. What's your order? Um, boy, boy girl. I mean. Oh, so that was, so you had two boys first as well. Yes.

That's what I had. I think, I'm going to say, I think it's the perfect. If you're going to have three, I think it's the perfect order. It certainly is, although, man, is there pressure on that third one, not have a penis. My God. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's, our daughter thinks she's going to get one once. Yeah.

Yeah, she says the other day, well, she does. She, she's in a crib, she's now in a bed. But when she was in a crib and wanted a bed, she went to go, I can't wait until I grow a penis so I can get my own bed. Oh, my God. Oh, you've made an incorrect causal relationship as to why they have them. That's where you're going to give a roadmap there of what this is all about. And this is not an appendage dependent situation to get your own bed.

Yeah. When we had two boys and my wife. wife Susie says to me, I really want a girl, and you'd be a great girl dad, we should, we got to try for her. And I'm like, you know, sure, but she even said, if we try for the girl and we get the girl, you can name her. Like, this is like some sort of thing that would be an incentive for me, not like happy wife, happy life, or everything else that she, she was saying about it. And I said, sure, let's do that. And so we try for the girl. We get the girl. and my naming rights immediately got demoted to the middle name on the spot.

But her middle name is Mattingly after my favorite baseball player of all time. Oh, that's really nice. That's a nice middle name. I agree. And it's also, you know, her initials Taylor Mattingly Eisen or T.M. For too much Eisen, which he is on a daily basis. So there you have it. You also, we have an Axel, and I really like having an X in one of my kids' name.

But you have a Zander, right? We have a Zander with an X. He's Alexander. How did the Xander? Oh, so he's the Alexander, but he goes by Zander. Yes, on his diploma, driver's license, passport, Alexander, but he goes by Zander with an axe. He just, I don't know, we just, we just, it sounded great.

Did you guys, were you the ones that started calling him Zander first, or did he come to it? Oh, great. We decided we're going to, we're going to name him Alexander, but call him Zander. That was the game plan. The weird thing is when I, Zander was so pop so much to me that I forgot that it's the end of Alexander. It didn't even appear. I was like, oh. Oh, there you go.

It is. It's the back end, yeah. But he, yeah, he loves his name, thank goodness. And, you know, my, my son's, youngest son's name is Cooper. So we got an... And he hates his name famously. No, he does. He goes by Uber.

No, he named him that because, again, my oldest son at the time when he was a baby, he was into cars and one of the only cars he couldn't recognize as Mini Cooper. And that was one of the only words he would say and thus. Great. So he just made it easy for him. Yeah, we did, you know. So that's what we got there. So where are your, which part of New York did you grow up, Rick?

Staten Island, New York, the fifth and forgotten borough, the home of Wutang Clan. That was one of my favorite lines in the history of the Larry Sanders show when Artie had, was telling Larry, who was on the show that night. And he mentioned it was, he called them Staten Island's streetwise troubadours, the Wutank Clan. And that was big for all of us in Staten Island to hear that. on that show. But yeah, that's where I'm from. Is the Pete Davidson-Coling Joe's thing too much or just right? Well, you tell me, have they gotten rid of the ferry yet?

Have you gotten rid of the ferry? I don't think once you get that ferry, you get rid of it. Can you off-load? Where is that thing? Here's the thing. The only way you offload a ferry is if you find people dumb enough as Colin and Pete. Like, you know what I mean? Like, now they got to find two younger rich guys from Staphan. Honestly, I took the ferry all the time to New York City or Manhattan and all the time.

And I don't recall ever having anything that has a warm, fuzzy memory taking the ferry, ever, including my prom date, vomiting off the starboard side of it as we went back to Staten Island because she had too much to drink at Dangerfields with her fake ID that night. So I don't know why there's anything charming about that. For anyone who does it is on the know, Pete Davidson and Colin Jost bought a decommissioned Staten Island Ferry. Now, I'm ashamed to say this, Rich, because I've lived in New York City since 2001. I only took the Staten Island Ferry for the first time last year as a chaperone for my son's field trip. Okay. And I just want to say, knowing that they had bought a ferry, I had no idea how big. the Staten Island ferry was. It's massive.

It's, it is, I'm not lying when I say it is 5x what I pictured. Yes, yeah. Also, Staten Island is, you know, 10x what I picture. Yeah. Because Staten Island is massive. It is a big, if it, at least when I live there, if it was its own city, it would have been the 20th

largest city in the United States of America. And I'm sure it's gotten larger, even in population, even though they, obviously there has an added landmass to it. But it, honestly, if you're, if you are buying a ferry and think, we can have events here. You could literally have five different weddings

at the same time on this large-ass boat, you know. And the boat's name, has they, have they changed it again? No, it's Titanic 2 is what they named it. That's not what you call a ferry. It is when you're two comedians who are bad with money. It's a bad, you know, it's like one of those bad swing thoughts in golf. You know what I mean? You don't want to go on a boat called the Titanic 2,

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Brooklyn to Staten Island when they built the Verrazano Bridge and, you know, working class. And we all lived, you know, in these rooms that were basically the doors to each room was about two feet away from each other. And, um, and so yeah, we were close and we still are. Um, bottom line is though he was way smarter than me, um, you know, the salutatorian of his class, all that sort of thing. Um, and, um, that was my upbringing. He's awesome. But you were, you were at least smart enough to know that he was way smarter than you. Yes. And also to know that if he was rooting for the Mets and Jets,

I would leave the Mets by the doorside and root for the Yankees when Reggie Jackson came to town in 1977. So I was that smart too. Interesting. Did your dad have a rooting interest? Was he a Mets fan? My dad did not like sports at all. And if it wasn't for my brother,

the Rich Eyes and Show every day would be about Judy Garland and Show Tunes. And thus, the Rich Eyes and Show probably would not exist. No, I remember there were, I think it was three episodes and then it kind of ran out of steam. Yep, that's right. What a funny thing. It's the truth. And you said your parents are public school educators.

What did they teach? My dad was a French teacher and also college advisor at the high school level, obviously. And my mom taught kindergarten mostly, but on occasion first and second grade. So that's what they did. dad, again, he was not a sports guy. So when I started doing, you know, sports casting in the early, in the mid-90s locally. And then when I got on Sports Center in 1996, his commentary to me the next day would be, how do you say the name Mitch Richmond so fast without stumbling on it?

Like, that's the sports conversation I would have with my dad, you know, not at all. Another thing we have in common are mom public school French teacher. Is that right? Yeah, junior high, obviously. But junior high French teacher. How is your French, Rich? Oh, terrible. I disappointed my father daily by not being good at it. You know, he would also take his high school class on trips abroad for the, you know,

one time to Quebec, one time the New Orleans, you know, for French, and then one time to France itself. And I would go there and, you know, they would, you know, I'd ask for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich when we were out. about. I just, I didn't have the palate. I didn't have the mind for the culture and the in the language. So I was disappointing my dad on that front, I think. I fear. I think it's impossible to disappoint

our mom, but otherwise she would have been deeply disappointed in me. Josh's was better. Oh, is that right? Well, I want an award as the best French student in my class. Oh. I can speak no French. Yeah. Which to this day, I said, was an ethical error by my mother

to award Josh that. Well, Sometimes I'm a terrible, I'm a terrible, you know, A in a Q&A because I'm always the Q. So I have to ask a follow-up question. What are the criteria for receiving such an award? It was just like, it was grades. It was like, I didn't miss anything on quizzes and tests. I was like, I was an exceptional student, but there were other classmates of mine who were exactly the same. I feel like I was tied.

So the tiebreaker was nepotism, right? The tiebreaker was a hundred percent nepotism. Isn't it always? Isn't it always? Look, my mom wouldn't give it to somebody who wasn't tied for first, but she's certainly not giving it to a non-child. She saw it as her opportunity.

I'm the youngest, and so when I was coming through, she's like, I'm not going to get this opportunity again, so I'm going to give it to my kid. And I got booed at the assembly when I went up on stage to receive the award from my mother. Whereas I had the decency to do poor enough in the class not to force my mom into that moral gray area. But what a life lesson for the other students,

students in life, you're going to lose out to nepotism all the time. What another way to teach the kids while also rewarding her own. I think that's next level. That's next level to chess right there. So much like you're a French teaching parent, our mom did not start a sports fan, but then became a huge sports fan because of both our father and then the two of us. And the famous, and again, she's a huge fan.

Loves the Steelers, loves the Red Sox, and the famous story about her breaking point was a moment that I'm sure brought you a great amount of joy, which was the Aaron Boone home run in 2003 off Wakefield. And my dad said that when he hit it, she got off the couch, turned to him and said, this is all thanks to you and those fucking boys. And was so, like, literally she was like, you put this poison in me. Wow. And it's, yeah. What a moment. Well, at least then. It's been complete, like, freaky Friday role reversal between the Red Sox and Yankees basically since that home run.

I was just talking to my – I was explaining the curse of the Bambino to my boys on the walk to school. They must be like, what is that? Like, what are you talking about? But it sounds fun from a kid's perspective. They were – look, they were enjoying. By the way, I was halfway through, and sometimes I do think my kids are so bored. And then we ran into another parent, and I started talking to the parent. And then one of the kids pulled my arm.

and it was like, finish your story. And I was like, oh. Well, thank you. I am a storyteller by trade. Oh, this is wonderful. Yeah, I mean, my dad never really became a sports fan, but he did enjoy, you know, he was the typical, you know, Jewish dad as well where when I,

when I got on Sports Center, a trading card was made, you know, with me on the front, with my stats as a sportscaster on the back. And they sent like, 9,000 to the house. So I just sent them all to my dad. And I'm like, I don't know. I don't have anything to do with this or with this.

You figure out whatever you want to do. So whenever anybody would come to the house to just like, you know, work on the cables, you know, box or the dishwasher or the refrigerator, you know, if they did a good job or if they noticed a picture of me, you know, on the mantle and go, oh, I love your son. They got a card. So anytime anybody Anybody who came to the house I'm like well they card worthy

And he goes absolutely not He did a terrible job Or not or the other way around So that was the extent of my dad's sports fandom He never really got there ever I will say like You know where it sounds like Another thing made my comment is like proud parents

There's nothing quite like it No Sometimes my assistant will say She goes after the show She's like your friend of your dad's is here. And I'm like, oh, great. And I always say hi to, you know, after the show. And so I go back and I'm talking to this, you know, lovely

couple or whatever. And sometimes I'll be like, so how do you know my dad? He's like, I was in a bar wearing a Steelers hat, and he came over and started talking to me. And then he said, you were his son and if I ever wanted to go to the show, he could give me tickets. Wow. I love it. How great is that? It is the best. It is the best. It is the best. Although, you know, my dad

passed in 2019. My mom is now at the point where me changing my show from the Roku channel to Disney Plus she now I've got to like she does have some issues trying to find it You gotta fly home You might have to fly home

But she does speak into her Roku remote control So we got that That's where I'm out now Our parents still have Our parents I was just home They still have cable and YouTube TV And I was like these are the same things

And they're like But then how do I get Like if I want to watch ESPN on YouTube TV, how do you do that? I was like, you go to ESPN. It's the same deal. But they're afraid of change and they really got YouTube TV

just so they could get the Sunday ticket, I feel like. There you go. I like it. But they haven't let go of whoever provides their cable. Yeah. They like to support media. You know, media is, it's a tough time for media, and so they're like, we're going to pay for all of it. I hear you.

So your mom mentioned, like, does your mom watch your share? She does on occasion when she, when she caches it. Yeah. And sometimes, like back in the day, she would come here too, and we'd pop her and my dad on the air and stuff like that. And it would be some fun, fun moments, you know. That's great. I do like to share it.

Did they sort of thrive as parents on your show? Of course. They just love that. Ours do too. You know, my parents, Josh, come on my show every year for Thanksgiving, and it's the best. I was just trying to avoid the Costanza moments when we were on live television with them. You know what I mean? Like those stuff or the Del Boca Vista.

moments but they were great we kind of i kind of try to push my parents towards it makes for better television it is it is great you know what i mean we have you'll appreciate that the long running bit is you know we have them on thanksgiving and every year NBC has the late thanksgiving NFL game so the highest rated show late night has of the year no close second right is a Thanksgiving show not because people are watching but because they just leave the TV on right and uh and every year my parents are like we did it again we know the highest rated show of the year i love it and Now, I've asked you this before, too, because, you know, my son, again, with my wife's from New England. And so when my kids were born to say you need to be a jet fan and not a Patriot fan,

while Tom Brady of my initial alma mater, you know, is killing everybody. So, like, child services would have removed the kids from the house. If I'm like, you must be a jet fan. So my youngest son, because my oldest son does not really care much about sports. He's more into Taylor Swift and everything going on with Travis Kelsey. And so that's Zander. But Cooper is a diehard sports fan. And he's going to go to school saying, I'm a Patriot, Celtic, Yankee fan.

And people are going to go like, really? What's up with that, weirdo? So how are you Steeler Red Sox? How does that happen? Yeah, Steelers Red Sox. Our dad's from Pittsburgh from East Liberty and was just, our grandfather had season tickets when the Steelers started in like 38 or something like that. Wow.

Yeah. And that was non-negotiable. Yeah. And then also, we kind of grew up in an era where the Steelers weren't, by the time we cared, they weren't particularly good, but they, like, they had been recently the best team. So, like, we grew up in Michigan and everybody was either a Cowboys or Steelers fan. Like, that was that era. Yeah. Yeah.

And then, like, we moved to New Hampshire, and, like, the Patriots were, were, like, it was Tony Easton, Steve Grogan. Best case scenario, they were eight and eight. So they were on TV, and you'd kind of, like, root for them, but our, you know, we bleed black and gold. And then, yeah, there came a time when they started beating us in AFC championship games, and it was rough. But they never wavered. Yeah, never wavered. Hang in there. But then, and then the Red Sox thing was really just like we were a family that would, like, watch baseball every night.

And, like, back in the day, it was like your local team was what was on. That's it. And, you know, we moved pretty, you know, I think we moved in 84, so the 86 Red Sox happened and we cared about it. That's all that matters. Yeah, I remember being in my dorm room at Michigan watching Mets Red Sox wishing for the Meteor to hit. You know what I mean? Like, as a Yankee fan, I'm like, this sucks.

Like, what is happening? Mets Red Sox are playing for the world friggin' series. And then that game six happened. And it was that was the equivalent of a meteor. You know? Yeah, it really was. You know, but it's tough to explain to people that the Steelers prior to the Immaculate Reception

were one of the worst franchises for decades. Yeah. And now, obviously, for the last 50-plus years, it's been a totally different ball to wax. It's a fun team to watch. I will say this, Rich, I said to my boys, I was like, look, I'd rather, look, you don't want to be Jets or Giants fans, and I won't let you be a Yankees fan. But, you know, because we're Celtics fans, I was like, if you want to be Knicks fans, that's totally fine. Like, it's too cool how close you live to Madison Square Garden. Like, you know what I mean?

It's like one subway stop from where we live. So if you guys want to be Nix fans, I fully support it. I'll take you to games. And I think that would be also fun for me. So that's what I'm, they might be the weirdos who show up at college being like, Red Sox, Knicks, Steelers. There you go. Yeah. But they'll come to all of it, honestly.

Yeah. I like that you have decided for them also that they won't be Jets or Giants fans. Well, I mean. That's like, again, it's like the Child Protective Services that Rich was saying. You've got to step and help them. Yeah, but then there is one sort of. of like you're a lawyer picking a jury where there's one preemptory

where this is not going to be an impaneled juror here. And that for me was the Red Sox gear that would come to the onesies in the friggin, you know, children's books about the monster of Fenway and all that sort of stuff. It just came streaming in from the East Coast when our first born arrived.

And I'm like, this is not happening. That's the one where I'm going to just put my marker down here and the red socks shall not enter the gates and everything else was just like okay free choice freedom of choice it's the country in which we live and that's it you know um but that that was my one preemptory no red socks i just can't have it or if if ohio state was in any way shape or form in the equation which it was and my my wife went to columbia so um she has she's agnostic when it comes to collegiate football um so that that that helps yeah big time we I had a lovely moment where on Sunday, you know, during the Steelers Jets game, like we were, you know, it was a beautiful day, we were outside, you know, we're not, you know, inside watching the game.

I was kind of well aware of what was happening in the game, I will admit. But then I got home and I said, you know, that lovely condensed game that you can watch these days. And so I said to my nine-year-old, I'm like, hey, and I didn't tell him who won. I'm like, you want to watch, you want to watch the game? And he's like, yeah. And we went and about halfway through it, he goes, so I think I'm going to go read a book. Oh, it's like great. I was like, I love you so much.

Godspeed. And he's like, but let me know what happens. I'm like, you bet, buddy. Because at some point I'm like, this is better. This is healthier. Yeah, this is. Read a book. Fantastic.

Go read a book. What a win. So if your father was sort of more on the Judy Garland track. Yes. Yes. Would you guys, would you get taken into Manhattan to go see shows? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

One of my first memories of life. I'm not kidding you, was sitting in, I don't know how they got this. They got somehow second row seats to fiddler on the roof at the Winter Garden Theater. And I just remember Zero Mostel singing if I were a rich man. And I guess because I was a little kid sitting in that row, he sang it like directly locked in at me. And I will never forget that. That is truly one of my first memories of life is doing that. And then I also remember standing on a massively long ticket holders line for Star Wars at the Ziegfield Theater.

Wow. That's another memory of mine. So we- I feel like that's like in the documentaries about Star Wars coming out. Yes. They would like show a line at the Ziegfield. Yeah. Ticket holders line. I'm like, anytime I do see stuff like that, Seth, or a photograph, I'm like looking for Waldo.

Could I be in that picture? on that one moment in time where their picture was taken. But I remember that. I remember going to Radio City, which is, again, what a blessing for you that you go to work in that building, Seth.

My God. I never take it for granted. And you know who reminded me when, you know, the 2007-2008 writer strike, there were a bunch of Letterman writers and that I was just meeting for the first time. And, of course, a lot of them had worked in the building. And they were at the, you know,

at Sullivan Theater, which is also a great building. But they were like, never forget, you work. in the best building. Period. Period. With all the memories and all that stuff and all the history,

pop culture history in that building. And so, yeah, I just, I just, the answer is yes. And those are my, my memories of seeing. And where you're,

were your parents, kind of people to like talk to you about culture after you saw it? Like when you saw a fiddler, where they like, yeah, that's, I mean, it's the best.

They probably left out the pogrom part, you know, to a little kid. Right. They, like, leaned in the matchmaking. Yeah, yeah. Yes, the love part of it.

Yes, that's where they leaned into it. But no, yeah, we would talk about it. And I would, you know, as a kid, I had a desk where there was a glass top and I would, I would put ticket stubs underneath the glass. And we did that. That was a big thing. Yeah, I did that. And then there was one time I saw Barnum on Broadway and I don't know how this happened,

but we went backstage and I met Glenn Close as a kid. And, you know, and she autographed my playbill. And I had that under the glass, probably the only, you know, fifth grader in Staten Island, I have a Glenn Close's autograph on a playbill. But that was my upbringing. We always went whenever we could to Manhattan to go to see Broadway plays. And I'll never forget it. So, yeah, that is part of my DNA.

This is a total side story, but only because you mentioned the Winter Garden Theater. Did you ever have the pleasure of meeting Gary Marshall? Oh, God, no, but he's, you know, the odd couple is such a part of my fabric watching it at night on Channel 11 in New York, but I'd love to hear this story. He's the best, and, you know, Northwestern guy and greatest storyteller. And I remember he told me, somehow we got on. around talking about Jason Alexander, who had been in Pretty Woman, and, you know, he's like, you know, I did a play with Jason.

His first Broadway show and it got terrible reviews, it closed in a week, it was at the Winter Garden Theater, and everybody said, Gary, it's not your fault, the play is great, it's the Winter Garden. Nothing works at the Winter Garden. The next play that came into the Winter Garden, cats. He's like, it ran for 25 years. They all said, Gary, it's the Winter Garden. that is fantastic and i have to mention as well i'm sure you know it um and hopefully your listeners and viewers do too uh the scene in lost in america with albert brooks where he plays the casino boss you know and and albert brooks is trying to get his nest egg back his money back that his wife gambled away while he slept in the hotel room is truly one of the best scenes in the history of movies i love that i did uh i did one of Gary Marshall's less memorable movies

called New Year's Eve, and the sole reason I did it was to talk to him about that scene. Are you serious? It's my favorite scene. I just did Criterion Clause, and talked about that scene, how it's the perfect scene,

and the best thing, and everybody should watch the scene, Albert Brooks, Gary Marshall, it's on YouTube, from Lost in America. And Gary, you know, wasn't an actor, but Albert was his friend,

and Albert knew he'd be perfect at it. And Gary, so funny, He goes, the worst thing, he goes, we got it on the first take. And Albert had to do it again and again. And it's just the best thing about Gary Marshall is this wonderful scene. And all he does is complain about how long the day was. Oh, my God. The Desert Inn has heart.

And him saying there is no santi claws, you know, oh my God. It's the best. I do sometimes just out of boredom, just want to just watch it back. And it's like four or five minutes long. It's classic, classic. And the most still. to this day, the most amazing thing about Gary Marshall, not Jewish. What?

Isn't he Italian? Are you serious? Are you serious? Because now I might roll into a fetal position. Yeah, that seems like a stretch, but I don't know. But the odd couple, that was part of my upbringing as well, is Channel 11, one of the local stations there in New York, would have a back-to-back of the odd couple and the honeymooners from 11 to midnight. And whenever I got to stay up late,

I would watch that back to back. And it just so, you know, molded me and what my sense of humor is. And I'll tell this story, if you don't mind. I met Tony Randall on the street once. And it was amazing. When I worked on Sports Center up in Central Connecticut, I was a single guy.

And so I got a small, like, one bedroom on the Upper West Side to go, you know, crash at, like a little crashing. pad whenever i go to new york for a couple of days when i had days off so i'm running in central park and i'm sweating like a pig and i'm walking back and i'm right at the the uh it was on 81st in columbus on the upper west side of manhattan and i'm getting right to my apartment and who's walking towards me pushing a baby stroller with his new kid at age 70 whatever uh is tony randall and dressed exactly like i would think he would be dressed like felix friggin unger where the

a double-breasted blue jacket and a crisp button-down white and blue striped shirt. And I just said, I just realized I'm a sweaty mess, but I have to say something. I can't let this go. And I just told him exactly what I told him. I said, you know, odd couple this, odd couple that. You formed my sense of humor.

And I just, I know I'm sweaty, but I just needed to say thank you. and he goes well thank you and then he starts pushing the stroll and then turns around over his shoulder he goes but I would think you would congratulate me on my children and keeps walking and I'm like

I'm the sports guy who's a mess and we just played this out like this just actually happened like he corrected me on the way I thanked him or congratulations oh my God the greatest Gary Marshall confirmed not Jewish

Wow Italian from the Bronx Which also by the way FYI means Penny Marshall isn't either So just that will be your day Also not Jewish Larry David Mel Brooks No I'm kidding

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All right, we're going to get, Josh, get into it because we've got 20 minutes. So, yeah, what were your family trips like? You've got public educators for parents. I'm guessing you weren't, you know, flying to Italy. St. Bart's? What were the trips and when were the trips? I'll be honest with you. the trips were again um because my parents were public school educators they mostly we spent our summers

mostly in summer camps that they were working in so my my summer camps my dad was my frigging group leader for like the first two three years so the kids wanted to do that make you cooler in the eyes of your fellow campers oh my god the exact opposite they wanted to go raid some other bunk and if i went with them i wasn't just defying any authority You know what I mean? Like, and so I was the kid going, do we really want to do this?

You know what I mean? In summer camp. Who wants to be the do we really want to do this kid in summer camp? Yeah. You know? And plus, I realized at a very young age that I should talk about sports for a living because I sure as hell couldn't hit the curve.

Right. But honestly, this is not, I feel like I shouldn't turn your, your podcast into therapy. But that did preclude us from taking a lot of, say, like summer trips or anything like that. Where were the camps?

The camps were in the Catskills. One was Camp Loconda and Glen Spay, New York. And the other was Trails End Camp in Beach Lake, Pennsylvania, for those scoring at home, you know. Did you look forward to camp? Like, did you go to the kind of camps where you made lifelong friends? Nope. I did not. I did not.

And it was really difficult for me. And my wife really basically had to tell me go to therapy when I was, when we were beginning to send our children to summer camp to not place my bullshit on them. You know what I mean? I had to work really hard at that.

But that was a me, like when an MP, right, to use the boogie nights phrase, not a YP. And so the bottom line is we didn't have a lot of those trips, but the trips that I was telling you about before that we would go on as a family, my dad would fold my brother

and yours truly into the friend class trips so new orleans canada we did go to france that was a now those those were the ones that i just recall more than anything else we did go to disney world once um on eastern airlines uh flying that from uh jfk once upon a time back in the day uh so we did do that where we stayed in the polynesian hotel uh i remember the monorail when the mon when i was a kid in the monorail was first built. I literally thought I was on the Jetsons. It was amazing. You know, going into the contemporary hotel looking around, like it was unbelievable when I was a kid going on that trip. That, by the way, is such a nice reminder that kids are not easily impressed, but it doesn't

take much for kids who don't have a ton of experiences to be blown away, which is one of the reasons why you don't have to like do the most amazing thing in the world with your children. Just take them somewhere different and they'll be, you know, their eyes will be open to it. Don't overthink it. Sometimes, you know, when our kids were sitting in car seats as little babies, the thing to help them pass the time is like a plastic water bottle, just handed to them and they would just like, you know, make the noises and the air would blow out.

And it would be like the cheapest, you know, $1.99 toy we could hand our kid to pass 30 minutes in a car. You know, so don't overthink. I just, again, I remember when I showed up, we were in Disney World and it poured rain for the first two days. And it was one of those unseasonably like 50 degree cold, floor today and um but i we showed up and i remember i saw a slide into the pool and i'm like i've got to go on it so my there's there is a an old school now grainy picture of me going down this slide in my in my zip up camp loconda parka because of course my jewish parents would

not let me in the pool without it because it's cold you know what i mean right catch cold and disney world you know so there's a picture of being sliding down into a pool with a parka a zip up parka um keep you warm that it yeah yeah no when it gets wet that kind of makes you colder but um but they were just like sure let's let's let's you you want to go on the slide go on the slide um so yeah i don't remember like any we never went on like long car trips or anything like grandparents nearby or we did we did in brooklyn both in brooklyn one near uh coney island so sometimes we would go to the amusement park there and the other one on East 48th Street in Brooklyn.

So that's, I do remember disappointing my grandfather on the porch of his place there to inform him that his dream of me being a rabbi one day was over that wasn't happening. And I knew that at age 12, this wasn't happening. But yeah, that's... Had he been explicit that that was his plan for you? He was like, this is great.

Yes, and I had to break the news to him one day at his age 12 as I was getting ready from our remembrance for this was not happening. Did you know you had to tell him or were your parents like, you should probably tell him? I don't know why I did. I just had a moment of clarity, you know, my adolescence, you know, like I'm just not to break the news. I want to be a sportscaster. It is so funny because I'm assuming you and your wife, Susie, are not trying to impart on your children what careers you think are right for them. But it is so funny to think just like, I mean, maybe. maybe it's still happening and I just it's not amongst the people I know but like the idea of like you're telling your kid at 12 like we think you should be this yeah it's just so funny right well it's old school certainly you know again to go back to the uh anatefka days like this just this wasn't happening you know like yeah I just knew it wasn't did you ever did you ever travel with a set of grandparents no god no because they would be bad company or they didn't want to or that just seemed like too much I don't know I should ask my

mom like why don't we travel with them because i don't know they just i don't think they weren't moving around too well you know what i mean like it just uh no i couldn't even imagine that um the only the only thing like out of the lane that i remember oh god um was uh watching you know uh in my the basement of my statin island house we had i don't know i had a movie night we watched whatever was on w mhto you remember that old school movie but it was like a predated HBO, and we watched, we watched Dressed to Kill with my grandparents sitting there. And if anybody recalls, Angie Dickinson was butt-ass naked in the shower in the first minute. That's why I remember that to this day is a 56-year-old man sitting here with you two guys right now.

Right. Oh, no. By the way, these the stories you're looking for on your pond? I will tell you this. They're not travel stories. They're not tribal stories. I will tell you this. When you said that, I had a flashback to the first time I saw Dress to Kill.

I'm sorry, dress, what is it, dress to kill? Dress to kill, Brian De Palma, yeah. Michael Kane? Yeah, yeah, he was bad. And I definitely also saw that at a time that was deeply age appropriate and left a mark. Left to Angie Dickinson sized mark. Hey, man, police woman had it. She had a game going.

She had it. She still has it. In front of my 80-year-old grandparents, though. That was, I didn't see that one coming. How were your parents as travel companions? how did they interact with each other um they were they were okay again um my dad was mostly a chaperone on these trips you know what i mean like it's not like they we didn't save up to go um away again because of our summer trips didn't really exist there weren't really spring trips so they seemed

okay i don't remember any arguments or or anything like that no recriminations um we were just uh we were just on the on a trip just trying to experience the culture and they were they would they would always try explain this stuff to me whatever was necessary whenever we were anywhere i mean we would go some trips that we would take to be honest we're we're to some museums in manhattan you know where and my mom would definitely take the time to explain what we were looking at and i probably checked out on her to be very honest you know i'm i'm just i do the same thing right now uh in museums with with susy taking the kids around um on trips right now you're still checking out i'm trying not to You know what I mean?

I'm trying to be a better parent to try and... I've been saying this. My father-in-law, who's... My father-in-law, who... It was just a wealth of information. And when I... Before I had kids, he would, like, tell it to me all the time. And I just was, like, fully checked out.

And now my kids are actually, like, they are great receptors to his information. Like, he'll be, like, the amount he's like, you know what kind of rock that is? And they're like, whoa, tell me more. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so happy I'm talking about the rock. I'm so happy he's talking about the rock to somebody. else this is the best and you're not talking about dwayne johnson either are you

no no no it's an actual rock you're referring to oh yeah 100% did you i've did your parents uh ever travel with you and your kids oh god no i love it there's just no like by the way like never i'm like the most interesting guest in the history no you're a great guest i mean i just think no you know i think you're next once you work through camp and therapy maybe try to dig into this no way no um no my not No, I know. My mother-in-law, we took the entire family to Israel prior to my oldest son's bar mitzvah. We did that. Or my youngest son's bar mitzvah, in between the two bar mitzvahs, she did take us there.

So we traveled with her. I went with my in-laws. The only time I've went to Israel was my in-laws took me. Yeah, so we did that, and it was incredible. And it was before all the insanity broke out a couple years ago. but yes so we did that and you know

we take our we take trips to you know with our kids to we try to take them to Europe as much as we can before you know

obviously our son's going off to college soon so you only get I mean not to you get too deep here you only get we were told this when the kids were born

you only get 18 summers with them so make the most of it and we try our best to do that what's your favorite place

you've taken family in Europe? Italy. There's no country like Italy. There's nothing like it. I mean, it is just beautiful and the food, the culture, the different places you can take them from the Amalfi Coast to Rome to Siena, Florence. We took them to Venice as well.

I mean, in terms of places to go in the world, you could talk about a place that there's no other place like it, right? Yeah. And you could use that phrase, but say you can go to Paris and there are other, there's no place like it. Well, there are other places with similar culture and

the type of city that it is, international, whatever. Venice truly is unlike any other city that you've ever been to. There's nothing truly like it. And so going there with them was magical. It was just awesome. Just great. What's the age

gap with your three kids two and a half years each time so and how are the three of them did they travel well together they do they do that's great they do i mean there are many recriminations um that occur just like well with all children and the occasional don't make me pull this thing over type moments right um that you try to get through i've had a couple moments this week you know we're just starting up school again where oh boy both my wife and i are getting ready and we just realized that the three kids are eating breakfast and talking to each other yeah and like it's not and you're just like like oh my god this is pure bliss yeah this is you know this is all you ever want is this moment exactly how old are your kids again they're young they're nine uh seven and almost four okay yeah

yeah you're gonna get to that's great you're you're you'll get to other moments where you know uh well they'll just say things you know like my daughter we were zooming with her and um in camp and we were talking about her birthday when she was coming back and her party and who to invite and who not to invite, and she mentions the name of a friend who should be invited. And my mom goes, well, oh, I thought you kind of had a little bit of a, you know, a problem before you left for camp with her. And she just says it, honestly, straight up, she goes, that's okay, mom. I've matured a lot this summer.

That's what she says, just like that. And it's one of those moments where, you know, Susie and I are kind of elbowing each other underneath the Zoom rectangle. So she doesn't see our reaction, you know. But those are the moments or, you know, I chose the Chiefs and the Lions to win the Super Bowl this year. It's like throwing a dart, you know, but it is my job to have to dart throw. And it's those are great moments. If you're right, you won't stop talking about it.

And if you're wrong, you're like, I mean, it was so early. What am I supposed to know? So I chose the Lions and the Chiefs and the Lions did not look good in week one. So my 14-year-old, while we're watching the Sunday night game between the Bills and the Ravens, She just turns to me out of the blue and goes, you know, Dad, that line's take of yours isn't so hot right now, is it? You know, those are the types of things that are down your pike, you know, with the kids. And I can't get enough of it. You're right.

It's the best. We know you are a busy man, so we are going to now move on to our speed round questions. And we ask everybody. Okay, let's do it. I feel like you're going to be very good at it. Okay. I like it. All right, Rich, you can only pick one of these.

Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Relaxing. Good God, give me a book and a beach. Seems like this is, by the way, this is someone whose parents dragged him to museum. Oh, my God, I am not a skier either. My wife is with the rest. I am in world-class appra-skier. That's what I do on those vacations.

Very good. Yes. Bravo. And that's a little French. So your father's, yeah, Aprae ski. They've just rolled off the tongue. Look at me. What is your favorite?

means of transportation? I do love a train. There's nothing like just settling in and looking out the window and just, I do, it's really relaxing. My God, when I, when I called a game in Frankfurt, Germany for NFL network, and I don't do well by myself, by the way, I'm not, I'm not good at that at all. And my wife's like, just go to Berlin, take a train, go to Berlin, like okay and it was awesome it was zen it was totally relaxing it was great amazing yeah those european trains they're the best oh yeah sort of the japanese trains for the record everywhere but here tends to do them great although we've got the acela we've got the eastern corridor is totally fine yeah and i don't mind the surf liner uh out here on the west coast yeah i mean you can get

yourself a nice uh microwaved bun thing in in your cella come on no sure uh if you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a trip with? The Griswolds. Great answer. Thank you, sir. The Griswolds, you know?

You are from Staten Island. If you were the head of the Board of Tourism for Staten Island, how would you pitch Staten Island as a vacation destination? The pizza is absolutely. The food is amazing. So, like, there is a real pizza tour. Tourism argument for that. 100%.

Absolutely. And by the way, Pete Davidson's movie was spot on. That's what I've heard. Spot on hit the bull's eye directly where the people are, you know, 100% blue collar, down home, family oriented, just do not piss them off and go and have some great food. That's my Staten Island pitch to you. Great, great. Yes. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?

Oh, man, stranded on, I'd be my wife, of course it would be. For better, for worse. Good answer. Thank you. It's like family feud. Good answer. Yeah, good answer. And then Seth has our final questions.

Have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have not. Do you want to go? Of course they do. A million percent. Well, of course you do. You've had a long life. You haven't done it.

It's not like it's your graphic. unsound for my current position. I agree with you. Yeah, it's like close and everything. You get their kids. By the way, you know, you had 18 summers? Well, you missed it. Guess what your college student doesn't want to go to the Grand Canyon with his parents.

Well, yes, we're out of time with the 18 summers. You've had your moment. But I have seen it from a plane. You know, we fly back. And it's just like, oh, that's great. That's great. That's what our listeners love. People have seen it from a plane.

That canyon sure is grand from up here. Rich, you're the best. It's really cool. Congratulations on the arc of your career, bringing you back to where it all began. It's really exciting and really cool. You're just doing, so you're doing Jets Vikings,

but you're not doing Viking Steelers in the island. Oh, God, did I want that assignment in the biggest, worst way? But that's going to be a Fox game on NFL Network. It's all on NFL Network. So I'm a fort holder for that one where I'll be doing the pregame for that one. So you'll be checking me out, hopefully, at halftime and pregame of that. and then I'm doing Jets Broncos in Tottenham and then Rams, Jaguars the following week

in, oh, I forgot how many. Wembley. Oh, yeah. I just did the YouTube Steeler, I mean, Chargers, Chiefs in Brazil. And that was the first of seven. There's one game in Spain for the first time ever and then one in Berlin, which is going to be great because the Germans do love their national football league.

That is a fact. I've seen it firsthand, man. Well, congratulations on sort of, figuring out how to travel and work at the same time. You've cracked the code. It's always a delight to talk to you. My dad taught me the way. Look at this. Be a chaperone. Look at this. I had no idea.

I'm now finally putting two and two together. How I learned it as a kid. There you go. Mix work and travel if you can. So there you go. All right. Thanks, buddy. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, Rich. See you soon, buddy. You bet. Take care. Bye. A baby boy from Brooklyn once moved to Staten Island.

Grandad had his hopes on a new rabbi. But there were other things in store for Rich Eisen. Metland Close after one of a show, second row to see Fiddler with Zero, Star Wars Line. Was a hell of a time. That's Richie Eisen. Loves the Jets, but isn't as smart as Jeff Somersend. Didn't have any camp friends in Perry,

peanut butter jelly. That's Richie Eisen. Movie night was fun, well, it was fun until the first minute in Richie got quite the thrill. It was licensed to kill. Grandparents couldn't take it, Angie Dickinson was naked Disney trip. But the rain wouldn't quit Montereil. Polynesian Hotel looking cool, where it is cold in the pool,

was not good at sports, but they made a playing card of Richie Eyes. Thank you.