Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - TIG NOTARO Parked On Lawns in Mississippi

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Seth and Josh welcome Tig Notaro to the pod! Tig talks about growing up in Pass Christian, Mississippi, the hilarious introduction to her family her wife received, what her kids think about visiting T...ig's hometown, and so much more! NissanThanks again to Nissan for supporting Family Trips, and for the reminder to chase bigger, better, more exciting adventures. And enjoy the ride along the way. Learn more at Delete MeGo to and use promo code TRIPS for 20% off.  Photo Credit: Robyn Beck

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Family Trips is brought to you by the 2024 Nissan Pathfinder with seven drive modes. The Pathfinder is built for even the most epic journeys. Learn more at Hey Paji. Hey Sufi. Can we tease the trip you're about to take? Yeah, it's a bit crazy. So I've got a friend who works with a celebrity. Okay. And this celebrity was about to take a trip. As celebrities do. To go to Stockholm and had reserved
Starting point is 00:00:37 this very nice three bedroom penthouse in Stockholm, Sweden. And then as celebrities also do, she booked a job. Sure. And can't go, can't cancel. And so offered the place up to my friend and my friend invited another friend of hers and I was out to lunch with that friend over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:01 And now, so I'm gonna go to Oslo tomorrow night, two nights in Oslo, and then Stockholm for five nights. It's amazing. And then home. And I just sort of like, yeah, fell into my lap. And it's one of these things where opportunity's knocking and I'm answering the door. You're at the door, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And you know, for us, obviously with a podcast like this, anytime one of us can get a trip in there, real important. Real important, because now you can come and report back. So. Yeah. I feel like also with our, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:34 our shout outs to get family trip stories from our listeners and questions, I don't know if we'll ever veer into this territory or not, but I do feel like friends are sort of become your chosen family. Yeah. In a lot of cases. And I'm flying and I'm traveling with people who are very near and dear to me. So they are friends, but they feel like family.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And I'm very grateful for the opportunity. I feel like Mr. Black and White got a little gray area on what counts as a family trip all of a sudden. and I'm very grateful for the opportunity. I feel like Mr. Black and White got a little gray area on what counts as a family trip all of a sudden. Can I tell you that I just was talking to a mom at one of the kids' schools, and she's a fan of family trips, and she appreciated how you kept everything on track.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Hmm. I appreciate that she told you because I feel like sometimes you're like, it doesn't matter. Yeah, she told me and you know what? I took it on the chin. I just, I know when I lose a point. I was just gonna say, I have bought because I get particularly prickly
Starting point is 00:02:42 when Lorne Michaels stuff comes up. Yeah, I think everybody who's listened knows that. Yeah, because also like, it's not like he's like the king of travel or whatever, but everyone- Sure, he does travel very well. Yeah, sure. But he's also-
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I take it, I take the point, right? Yeah, so I have bought this. Oh, that's real irritating. Josh is holding up one of those buttons that you hit. And so now you're gonna button me and my fellow Asadel alums when we mention Lor Michaels? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Wait, I didn't hear anything. Did it make a noise? Yeah, you're gonna get it on my end. It's like, I don't know, sometimes these mics don't hear anything. Did it make a noise? Yeah, you're gonna get it on my end. It's like, I don't know, sometimes these mics don't pick up. What did it say? Was it just a buzz? Yeah, it goes,
Starting point is 00:03:31 eh. Can you record? Is it one of those ones where you can record it? I'm sorry, no more Lauren stories. Yeah, that's what I would do. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Here. You guys still don't hear it. All right, our listeners will hear it.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Maybe it's just that my ears can't hear any shade about Lorne Michaels, the greatest man I've ever met. Oh, sweet Lorne. I'm sorry about my brother, sweet Lorne. Look, I think he's great too. I just don't know that everyone listening is like, oh yeah, give me some of that. Yeah, yeah, I get it. That's great too. I just don't know that everyone listening is like, oh yeah, give me some of that. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:04:06 That's very fair. So I also want to say, you were asking if I ran the Stockholm Marathon, is that what you just said? No, but we can talk about that. Oh great, so I mean, sure. It's a really sad story about an athletic achievement that went off track.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I did train to run the Stockholm Marathon in summer of 2015, and I had IT band issues. I overtrained. I don't wanna brag on the podcast, but I was running like 150 miles a month. That's too many miles for a dude my age at the time. And so I had IT band issues and then I took a month off before the race and then I tried to do it and I made
Starting point is 00:04:49 it like 10 miles before my knee buckled and I had to stop the race. And it's real sad, a couple things that were sad. One, I kind of liked the idea of running the Stockholm Marathon because I liked the anonymity. Right before my knee buckled, or I should say right after it buckled, I was sort of like leaning against a car and a little Swedish kid walked by and goes, oh, hello, I said my arse. And I was like, oh, sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I didn't need that. And then you have to like walk home during an active marathon. And that's not great either. Yeah, because you probably look hobbled. And you also look like somebody who was supposed to be in the marathon. Were you still wearing your number?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah, or maybe I took it, but I still, you know what I mean? Like you look like a dude who was just ranting miles and people are like, oh, did you not know there was also a marathon? You should have done that. Yeah. And then I remember,
Starting point is 00:05:46 but we did have Swedish meatballs for dinner that night, which I know is very on the nose. Yeah, mom and dad were there for that. Mom and dad came out, which was lovely. Mom and dad came out, Alexi came out, my sister-in-law, Ariel came out, because I invited her. I said, I don't want people to think
Starting point is 00:06:04 this is because you and my wife have a co-dependent relationship and you have to go to the same places all the time, this is because I want you there to support me. That's nice. Yeah, it is nice. I remember you ran the Helsinki Marathon. I did. In Finland, and finished, I was there for that one. And I've seen you run a couple marathons.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Good man. And now for our listeners, we should know that's the sum of them. It makes it seem like now they're like, how many are there? There's the two Josh saw and then the one I didn't finish. Josh was kind of like a rabbit's foot. Yeah, I'm your lucky charm. And at the Helsinki marathon, like there's always,
Starting point is 00:06:38 there's like, you know, they might pass you a cup of Gatorade or water. There's like little stations to keep you going. And I remember at the Helsinki marathon, they were pass you a cup of Gatorade or water. There's like little stations to keep you going. And I remember at the Helsinki Marathon, they were handing out pickles. Cause pickles got that salt. Yep, it was fun to, you know, it's like the first pickle station,
Starting point is 00:06:55 you like grab a pickle, you're like running so fast, he grabs, falls out of your hand, you're like, I don't have time to go back for the pickle. And you just keep running. And then like late in the race, you stop and like have a conversation with the, the pickle and you just keep running. And then like late in the race, you stop and have a conversation with the pickle person. You're just sort of like, I kind of feel like I'm cramping everywhere.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Like, do you have a good pickle for that? You do a pickle tasting. If all those initial runners are dropping pickles, you run a real danger of a pickle pileup. Yeah, you don't want a pickle pileup. I will say, Helsinki, you were there, Colin Jost was there, Andy Samberg was there. And at one point, you guys were, you ran alongside me.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. For maybe a block. Yeah, we got winded pretty fast. You were running with me, and then I remember just Andy after the fact saying he thought he was gonna throw up. Because I wasn't sprinting obviously, I was running a marathon pace. In Jost's book, which is a wonderful book
Starting point is 00:07:51 called A Very Punchable Face, Jost actually prints my marathon time and where I finished, which was like 2000th. It was a very mean, it was a very mean move by. Well, did he go thinking that maybe you were gonna win it? It was a very mean, it was a very mean move by... Well, did he go thinking that maybe you were gonna win it? No, he was just after the fact. That would be a funny thing to say, like, look how good he did.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And it was like, yeah, not that great. Making his face all the more punchable. More than, yeah, exactly. That's what he asked for. Yeah, our good friend, our good friend, Colin Jess. We also, one time we were in Sweden and had the best brunch of our lives. 101 item brunch at the hotel.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Can't remember the name of the hotel, but it was, I remember we walked in to check in and there was a sign saying we have a 101 item brunch. And it was everything you wanted it to be. Yeah, and it was also, it was every morning till like 2 p.m. It was nice and late, that's right. Yeah. And so yeah, we would go out,
Starting point is 00:08:53 we would get up late and we'd go down. I mean, for the 101 items, we probably leaned on, like we leaned on the meatballs more than anything else. We did have, yeah. Now this is, this will be your first return to the nation of meatballs post-veganism. Yeah. Do we think that in this day and age,
Starting point is 00:09:12 they've got good, I don't know, like non-meat meatballs? Probably not. I mean, I'll also say that I went to a wedding in Sweden in Gothenburg a few years ago, and we were out with our Swedish friends. And I was like, hey, can we get some Swedish meatballs? And he's like, yeah, it's like a kid's menu item, but we can get it.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I don't think the Swedes eat Swedish meatballs as much as we think they do. Yeah, they should. They totally should. It's dumb. Be like if I was like, just cause I lived in America, I wouldn't eat chicken fingers, which I think we all know I do.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Mm-hmm, yeah. Love those fingers. That's a burn when that's only on the kids menu and I have to convince the kids to get them. You guys gotta come. Yeah, but then they can have your onion soup. Right. All right, well, you have a wonderful trip.
Starting point is 00:10:11 That's very exciting that you can go back to Scandinavia. I'm very jealous that you get to take that trip. Yeah, I'm lucky and I know I'm lucky. Hey, our next guest talked about her hometown in a way that maybe more than any guests we've ever had has made me want to visit it. 100%. And this place was not on my radar. Exactly. Now it is like, it's, if I had a map that I was putting pushpins in, I would put a pushpin in this town.
Starting point is 00:10:40 She's a wonderful comedian. She's also a podcaster. She's also a writer. She's Tig Notaro. And we do hope you enjoy her right after you enjoy Jeff Tweedy. family trips with the mindless brothers. Here we go. How are you, Tig? I'm doing well. How are you, Seth?
Starting point is 00:11:14 It's been a long, long time. I feel like it's been a million years. Do you remember which college we did stand up together at? No, I don't. I do. I do. I do. I guess it resonated far more with me. It's an important memory to have.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Do you even remember the state? Do you remember that it happened? I know it happened. I remember that actually, this is how long ago it was. My first episode of the Sarah Silverman program was premiering that night. That we were, didn't we go to a gig and it was canceled
Starting point is 00:11:57 and then we had to fly? No, it was University of Northern Iowa is what I wanna say. But I do remember we had to take a puddle jumper to, I don't usually, I remember it was rare that I flew with you because we both had to go back to a bigger airport before you went somewhere and I went somewhere. But we sat on a very small puddle jumper
Starting point is 00:12:19 and my memory of it, I don't know if you remember this, I do feel as though I've gone on a road trip with you because you had no interest in small talk. You immediately just got into my life with me in a way that was really helpful. You kind of sussed out that I was dating somebody that I shouldn't be dating within, like, before we even left Iowa.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Well, I do remember that. I do remember that, and I felt like maybe I had crossed a line, but I figured I might not see you again for another 20 years. And you didn't, but you had a massive effect on my life. So I'm really looking forward to this next, hopefully this hour.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I feel like we were also scheduled to perform someplace and then there was a weather situation. That was when the very first episode that I was on, Sarah Silverman, was airing. And then it got canceled, and we got rescheduled. Yeah. We did. I guess we, yeah. It was, I do remember it very fondly. Now, do you ever see my brother? Do you guys ever run into each other?
Starting point is 00:13:21 I ran into, I feel like the first time and only time I met you, and I have a bad memory, obviously. I mean- So do I. So let's see if we have this, I've got one in mind. Yeah, I only have one memory of you where we interacted, and that was, we did a vegan benefit together. We did.
Starting point is 00:13:39 That was a vegan comedy show at Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles, a great little theater. Mom and dad were in town and I was like, hey, I got asked to do this thing and Tig's headlining. And we went down and it was a great, it was like at three in the afternoon. It was a great time.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Well, it was a great time and you might've been gone when I performed, but what ended up happening at that show, which for some reason I remember more than I remember my time with Seth, but we were, I was doing my show. Well I had told my wife, I said, because it's a matinee show, should we bring Max and Finn, our, at the time, I think six-year-old sons, they had never seen me do stand-up. And so it felt like a perfect opportunity.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So we brought them and I did not account for my sons heckling me. Oh. It was great. I was there. I was in the audience for your set. Oh you were? Yeah. Okay. And your sons, your sons seemed fascinated and then afterwards then there was like a little green room and it was very busy because there were a lot of people on that show and then you're there
Starting point is 00:14:56 and Stephanie and you're two adorable and very well-mannered sons I will say. Well, thanks. Well, mannered after they heckled me in front of them. I truly was like, oh, right. Of course this is happening. Why would this not happen? Right. They feel like, in the same way I feel like our mother was our French teacher. And I feel like we had, felt like we had more license to sort of interact with the teacher in ways that you wouldn't interact with a teacher because she was our mother. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And she had like a drawer that had candy in it that you could win based on like doing well on a quiz or whatever. But I had no compunction about going up and just grabbing a piece of candy whenever I wanted because that was my mom's candy. So in effect, that was my candy. Well, compunction is a really good word.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah. It's interesting to me that the reason your kids hadn't seen you do stand up yet is that it was too late at night and not that they just might be too young for stand up. Like you jumped at your first matinee gig to bring six-year-olds to stand up. But they cuss. Like there's nothing that they...
Starting point is 00:16:08 You know what I mean? Like they hang around. My comedian friends come over. My wife doesn't edit herself with anything she says. So it's really not an issue. But it was just ridiculous because it stunned me because the heckling was very age appropriate heckling because my son Max was like, not. Yeah. Yeah, the old not. So, and I will say like, there's no scoring
Starting point is 00:16:41 when you put down a heckler that is your own child. You know, you're not gonna be like, oh, Tig owned them. Yeah, yeah. It's not gonna go viral with me saying, you're gonna go to bed early. They also, because that was a vegan fundraiser, some vegan restaurant, I forget which it was,
Starting point is 00:17:00 but had like sponsored it and sent food over for all the performers. And I don't think it was necessarily like a flex on your part, but had like sponsored it and sent food over for all the performers. And I don't think it was necessarily like a flex on your part, but you weren't there early to have food because also you had your children and your wife. So you showed up and you're the headliner. Makes sense. And then afterwards they were like, oh, here's your food. But we were in a tiny little green room with like 15 people and you were like, I think I'm going to eat this later. So I'm not just eating on my lap
Starting point is 00:17:25 with all of you watching me eat this sandwich. You're like, I appreciate it, I will take it with me. Thank you very much. It was a flex by the way, for me to show up. It was a flex to show up for my set for a vegan matinee comedy show. Yeah. Now is the idea, is this another thing that is
Starting point is 00:17:51 is health-based is that the vegans have decided that also it's better to do standup in the afternoon just to get a good night's sleep. Yeah. That we've also kind of overlooked the fact that it's just basically unhealthy to be up as late as we are doing stand up on a normal day. And it's also very blue zone of my family because we travel together to the show.
Starting point is 00:18:10 We enjoy the show together. We eat, you know, plant things, you know, it's classic us. Do you travel a lot with the boys? No, we travel a lot as a family, but no, I don't bring them. Like everybody, you know, how, I don't know if you've experienced this, but strangers that don't know you chiming in and writing you and telling you how to live your life.
Starting point is 00:18:36 People have done this to me saying that I work too much and that my kids should have more time with me. Just to set the record straight, I do work a decent amount, but my kids, if you didn't know that Stephanie and I were in entertainment, our kids have the most normal, structured, family-oriented life that I can't even express. I just want to put that out there to all the strangers that
Starting point is 00:19:16 have yelled at me for working too much and not spending enough time with my family. We spend so much time together, but I just don't bring them on set, or I don't bring them to, I only brought them to one show. In fact, anytime I pop up on the TV, they call me Mare, but when they see me on TV,
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Starting point is 00:23:13 J-O-I-N-D-E-L-E-T-E-M-E dot com slash trips. Here we go. So you grew up, you were born in Mississippi and then moved to Houston when you were pretty young, correct? Or just outside of Houston? Yes. And one sibling, yeah? Well, my father was a little busy on the side.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Okay. I have a brother I was raised with, and then my father had, you know, and my mother split and he had a bunch of other. Extras. Yeah. When you say a bunch of, is the number just sort of kind of too large or is it just sort of like maybe unclear? No, I mean, I wonder sometimes,
Starting point is 00:24:04 but I think there's five of us. Okay. Yeah. My father married somebody that was not maybe the nicest person. Sure, sure. So there was a lot of stuff there. And so I was kind of selective with how and when I saw my father. And then I met my half brother, just as my father was dying. Like when my father is dying, I went out to say goodbye and met my, my half brother.
Starting point is 00:24:37 How old was he then? How old is your half brother when you met him? He was 19. And I was, I think, 44, something like that. Was that a surreal moment? Yes, it was. Actually, what was more surreal was to Maryland and I was, I had a show in Virginia somewhere and at a club and between the early and late show, I was walking, I don't know where, but I saw this guy leaning against a wall and I thought, that's weird, that guy looks like my father. And it was.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And so he had seen the early show, he wanted to stick around for the late show and he had brought one of my sisters. And so I was in between the early and late show, hanging out with them while people were coming up, asking me to autograph things, which was weird to sign his last name in front of him. Then it was so weird.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I couldn't do anything to convince him that I wasn't a major star. He thought I was the biggest star in the world and he thought I was being really modest. It was so embarrassing because I was just like, no, this place is sold out because of Christmas parties. But then he stayed at a motel nearby, and then he asked me to write my brother a letter in my father's car in front of my father. So that was more uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah. Wow. That was a long way to go. I find anytime you're writing anything and someone's watching you write it, it's very disconcerting. Yeah. Well, yeah. It was like, hi. Yeah. I mean, that has so many levels
Starting point is 00:26:43 of disconcerting to it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that has so many levels of disconcerting to it. Yeah. Yeah. Also writing in a car, that's always does, something feels like something's gone wrong like through writing in a car. Yeah. Yeah, there was lots of impact there.
Starting point is 00:26:55 We weren't driving, we were just in a parking lot. Also weird though, you know, like. Well, even weirder, when he was saying goodbye to me and driving off, he drove a van actually, of course he did. He put it in reverse and he came back as I was waving and he said, oh, can I take some pictures of you? And I was like, sure.
Starting point is 00:27:19 So I'm standing in a parking lot as he took some pictures of me and a disposable camera. Did he get out of the van to take the pictures or was it through the window? Through the window. And then he said, would you mind getting back into the van and writing a letter to your brother? And I was like, sure.
Starting point is 00:27:44 So I did and I didn't know what to say because obviously my father is gonna read it. I didn't know if I should go into, hey, here's some issues to flag. You know. But my father meant well. He was just a complicated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Do you think, not to put you in his head, do you think when he drove off with his, you know, disposable full of pictures and a freshly written letter, do you think he thought, I think that went good. I think I got a lot out of that. I'm going to come back with all this bounty. Yeah. And the family is going to be happily together forever. I think this letter is gonna be the bridge.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah, yeah, bridge the gaps. Were you close with your full brother? My full brother, yes. We certainly had our ups and downs over the years, and he made really good grades and was on sports teams and had a girlfriend. And I was like rock and roll and I smoked and I failed three grades and dropped out of high school
Starting point is 00:28:57 and have a seventh grade education. And so I was just like not the coolest sister to have when he was shining, I think. You know? Yeah. Did he ever talk to you and say like, hey, you gotta get on the straight and narrow, Tig.
Starting point is 00:29:12 No, he just didn't talk to me. I think he just kind of thought I was a loser for a while, but we're definitely close. I feel lucky that having the same life and childhood that I don't ever share a story or feeling and have him say, what are you talking about? Yeah. You know, like there's not ever anything at all that I say that he's like, not enough. He's not like my son that's like, not. Also not to bring it back to our mother again,
Starting point is 00:29:52 but our mother still drops the not. Yeah. Regularly. It's a bit that she's holding on to from her teaching days. Like whenever it popped, she's like, that one's good. And I'm sticking with her. I think it was just while there was like a cultural moment where she observed all culture through her teenage boys.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And so like she still uses dis with a lot of, freely uses dis. Yeah, she'll tell our father to step off. Yeah, this is- She'll say step off big boy. Yeah. Oh my God, Where does she live? New Hampshire.
Starting point is 00:30:28 New Hampshire. Bedford, New Hampshire. She lives in New Hampshire, but her heart is in 1990s Yo MTV Raps episodes. I knew you were from Bedford through Sarah. Yes. I didn't realize that your mother was still speaking like that.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Did she say, I mean, this isn't very like, yo MTV raps, but did she say happy camper and stuff like that? No. She's too cool for that. She's too cool for happy camping. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're so your stepfather came into your life when you were fairly young.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And so it was sort of the four of you were you, do you feel like you were a tight foursome with your mom and your stepdad and your brother? No, it's not sound like a no. Okay. No, I mean, we lived in Mississippi and my stepfather was from New York and he was living in New Orleans,
Starting point is 00:31:20 which is right near my hometown in Mississippi. And he was set up on a date with my mother. And then he moved us to Texas. And it just felt like I'm very thankful for my life, every good and bad thing. But I think that it just kind of felt like this isn't, this doesn't feel quite right. You know, there was a lot of, our town was very quaint and in Mississippi and very beautiful.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And then we were just like dropped off in the middle of Texas, you know. And how old were you then when the move happened? Like five or so. Yeah, but you have memories of the, when you were in Houston, you did remember Mississippi fondly? Oh yeah, and that's where I would go on most vacations
Starting point is 00:32:18 because my stepfather was very buttoned up and rigid. And my mother was a very free-spirited, artistic, funny person. And so there was just a, again, I'm grateful that I have both influences in my life, but it was not a match. I don't think. Was Houston like a Houston suburb? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. I mean, it was, it became a suburb vibe. Whereas when we moved there, it was a lot of like cow pastures and not much going on one, you know, a street where it's like one direction, one way, one the other. And now it's like, I don't even recognize the area. It's so overdeveloped.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And so when you would go back and visit Mississippi, who would go on that trip? Was it all for you, or would your mom just take you and your brother back? My stepfather and or, well, and he would do it by himself or he and my mother would drive us to New Orleans. My grandmother lived in the garden district in New Orleans. And so we would, our first stop was to go there
Starting point is 00:33:39 and visit her. And we just, she lived in this apartment next to, are you familiar with the Pontchartrain Hotel? On St. Charles? No, not really, no. I mean, yeah, I know the words, I know the names, but yeah. The Pontchartrain Hotel is where a street car named Desire was supposedly written
Starting point is 00:33:58 and it just is a very famous hotel, but my grandmother lived right next door to the punch train and she had a standing dinner reservation there every night. So we essentially got dropped off in New Orleans, sat in our grandmother's apartment and breathed in so many cigarettes. I can't even express. What did she smoke?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Do you remember her brand? What did she smoke? I mean, it was no different from my house. My mother smoked filterless pommel. I don't really remember. That's a good question. My brother would remember. But yeah, that was our first stop was New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And then we would get dropped off in Mississippi in my town, Pasquers Jan, which is just dropped off to your own devices. Two kids just go. Now we were dropped off at our aunt and uncle's house, which was just like, just a blast, a real free for all. They had four kids and they were four boys that were kind of like older brothers to us. We spent all of our summers and everything out there.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So, there was a great anticipation annually about the idea of going back to Mississippi? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think we enjoyed visiting our grandmother too. It was just, when you think back, what were we doing? Like we were in her apartment for like a week, just smoking and then went to Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:35:38 But yeah, it was, there was so much to do as kids, you know, in Mississippi. It was just like, you could run anywhere, go anywhere. The beach was there. Everybody knew everybody kind of vibe, fishing and- What's the Mississippi beach vibe? Very lazy and quiet. In fact, when I was an adult and went out to a California beach, I almost had a
Starting point is 00:36:08 stroke because I didn't even understand. You couldn't find parking. It was just endless. Parking lots that were crammed and people parking along the, you know, the boardwalk. I didn't understand what I...and then bodies and bodies and bodies next to each other. Where is the Mississippi? You just, you walk or you just pull up. My cousin was married to this guy who had never been out of Mississippi or on a plane. And we were asking him when he went to New York, what he thought. And he said, well, you know, I just, I couldn't believe, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:55 there's no place to park my truck. Like if I lived out there, there's no place to park my truck. And that was his big takeaway. Cause what my kids love so much when we go back to Mississippi is that people just pull up and park on lawns. You just pull over and you park on the sidewalk.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I mean, it's nothing weird or you just leave your car running, you leave the keys. In fact, when Stephanie and I first got together, I was filming my show One Mississippi in New Orleans at the time. And she was hanging out in Mississippi with my family. And I said, Hey, what are you doing? And she said, Oh, I'm doing this or that. And I said, Well, how are you getting around and she said oh I'm driving Uncle Mike's car and I said you are and she was like yeah and I said do you know who Uncle Mike is and she was like no and I said he is Rory's brother who died about a decade ago
Starting point is 00:38:08 and the family has just kept Uncle Mike's car and uses it for when people come in town and you can just park Uncle Mike's car because she had gotten Uncle Mike's car which was parked at the tennis courts so she was dropped off there to get Uncle Mike's car but she was just like oh yeah I'm just driving around and borrowing Uncle Mike's car. I'm like, that guy is so, so dead. I, that, I'm, we do a lot of beach stuff in the summer. The anxiety about parking, there's no, you can't relax enough at the beach to get over what you've done to yourself for the parking element of it. It's a disaster.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It is not the case. We got married. Stephanie and I got married on the beach in my hometown and my cousin who organized it, he was like, well, I do want to let you know, we have it reserved, but there is a fee for the permit, but I covered it. Don't worry about it. And Stephanie was like, well, how much was it? Well, it was $5, but, you know, my treat. -"Did you have a lot of people from L.A. come out to Mississippi for your wedding?" -"Yes. There were so many people from L.A.
Starting point is 00:39:19 and New York that came out, and they were just like, oh, my God, I got to see what a small town, Mississippi, gay wedding looks like. And I mean, it was so magical. I was like, I think 400 people came. Wow. Unbelievable. It was massive. And we just got married on the beach and my cousin's the mayor and the street was shut down so everyone could cross over the street to go to my other cousin's house for the reception. And my other cousin married us.
Starting point is 00:39:58 These are the guys that are like older brothers to us. Right. This is Jackson, Mississippi? Is it Jackson? No, Jackson is where I was born. And then we moved down to Pass Christian, Mississippi. It's Pass Christian, and it's the Cajun pronunciation of Christian.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Okay. And now where do you 400 people stay when they come to a wedding in Pass Christian? A lot of people stay, some people got Airbnb's, there's a casino, there are casinos in other towns and areas, you know, it's near Biloxi, which is very heavy gambling areas. So, yeah, a lot of that. But I'm telling you, it was a blast,
Starting point is 00:40:48 that wedding was a blast. And do you feel like the people, our coastal elites who came down, got everything they bargained for and more? Do you think they were all just, this is everything I possibly could have wanted from my Mississippi wedding? I think it was more.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And what's funny is when you fly into my town, you go to New Orleans and then you drive, it's a little under an hour east of New Orleans. And there's always the vibe of, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, we're gonna stay the majority of our time in New Orleans and then we'll come over, we'll meet you for dinner in Pascre Shan or we'll go to the wedding, but we're staying in New Orleans. Some people did stay in New Orleans. And like clockwork, as soon as somebody comes over and goes to Pascre
Starting point is 00:41:35 Shan, they're like, are you kidding me? It's so beautiful, and it's so just relaxed. And It's so beautiful and it's so just relaxed. And it's a lot of New Orleans people that have places there or moved over there. So I don't wanna paint it as like LA or New York, but I would say it's a little more progressive than when you start heading into the backwoods. Is there like a sort of quaint main street? Is there a center of things?
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah, yeah, for sure. And in fact, the coffee shop there is owned by an interracial gay couple. And there's a line out the door every day. It's right on the beach and it's also a bookstore that is so, it's, on the beach and it's also a bookstore that is so it's you have to look it up and if you're ever in New Orleans I can't recommend enough to head over and just check the area out it's so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Oh what a nice hot tip. Do you feel like over the course of your life like having been there when you were little has it become like sort of this more progressive more interesting place or did it always have that? Well, I mean, I'm sure it's become more progressive as I've gotten older just because, you know, things just. Yeah, that's the wheel of time. Yeah. Yeah. But I think it was always an interesting place to go.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I mean, any friends of mine I brought over or girlfriends over the years. I just grew up on boats and in the back of pickup trucks. I was talking on some podcast about water skiing in the swamps and people were like, no way, with alligators? I was like, yeah. And then I got off that podcast and I reached out to my brother and I said, we water skied in swamps, right? And he was like, yeah. I was like, okay, people are telling me I'm lying. And he was like, no, that's where we water skied.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah. Are there airboats down there? Or is that? Got to. Got to. Got to. Yeah, I mean, not necessarily surrounding my town, but I would just, the general Gulf Coast and swamp areas.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah. Have those. Have fun. How often would you lay eyes on an actual alligator when you're out in the boat? I never saw any when I was water skiing. Gotcha. If you'd seen one, would that have been the end of it?
Starting point is 00:44:22 I don't know. Yeah. I was scared of sharks. I remember going out onto the ocean with my cousins and one of them threw me off the boat and yelled shark, which is always a fun joke. But, you know, and the boat is so much higher, you can't pull yourself out of the water. It was, I mean, I really think I was walking on water,
Starting point is 00:44:49 but I don't know if it even really crossed my mind. Cause I think I saw the signs in the swamps that said, you know, beware of alligators. And I think because I was a kid, I just took it for that. Like, okay, well, I'll be aware of those. Yeah. That's all it takes, then that's all it takes. But I think I was more scared of sharks.
Starting point is 00:45:13 But you know where you can see alligators, where I've seen the most alligators, is on the drive to the New Orleans airport coming from Mississippi, dead on the side of the highway. Wow. And just roadkill dead, like hit by a car dead. Yeah, yeah. Like massive alligators dead.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Wow. That seems like something you'd want to get off the side of the road pretty quickly, just for tourism. Tourism level. Or it raises just for tourism, tourism level. You know, or it raises awareness. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Be aware. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:47:11 See Nissan Towing Guide and Owner's Manual for additional information. Always secure cargo. So were most of your trips then back to Mississippi, like when you were living in Houston, did you take other family vacations? No, my stepfather wasn't really into traveling. So yeah, we just mainly went to New Orleans
Starting point is 00:47:36 and Pasquistan and then we, and then my grandmother, my father's mother and my father would come get us from Pasquistan and then bring us up to the Jackson area. Did you feel as though you were being taken from your favorite place when you had to go from Past Christian to Jackson? I definitely, it's so interesting. I'm so used to traveling, obviously, for work.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And when people are like, are you excited to go to blah, blah, blah? Are you excited to? And I, blah, blah? Are you excited to? I'm like, yeah, sure. I'm going to do a gig. I'm not like, oh my gosh, I'm going to do my list. But I still have that feeling that I had as a child.
Starting point is 00:48:20 When I crossed, it's called the Bay Bridge. As soon as I'm getting on the Bay Bridge to cross over Paschershan, my, I mean, heart and soul lights up beyond belief. And when I leave, I have this sinking feeling of, God, cannot wait to go back. And I had that for sure. I used to cry every time I left past Christian, but I was also excited to go see my grandmother and my father, even though it was my grandmother worked at a gift shop at the Hilton Hotel and rented Avis rental cars.. So my brother and I would just play in her gift shop and take everything that we wanted. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah. Well, she encouraged us to. Then my father, we were always happy to see him, you know, he just didn't have a lot of money. And he lived in just kind of weird, sketchy areas. And his table was a card, a folding card table with loose change, because he worked at a pizza restaurant and didn't have a bed,
Starting point is 00:49:51 just had sheets and a pillow on the floor and had guns lying around. And it was just that kind of thing, you know? He had pistols and knives in his cowboy boots. And that was our vacation, was hanging out at pizza restaurant. Were any of the half siblings around in those times or they came later?
Starting point is 00:50:13 They came later. Yeah, they came, I think when I was around 12 or something. And that's when there was, you know, his wife Right. And that's when there was, you know, his wife. Right. Went into the picture and wasn't, you know, not great memories. And then you were turned into a rocker who was smoking cigarettes and like,
Starting point is 00:50:35 you were close to that on the cusp. Yeah, yeah. Do you think, cause your dad would come and pick you up and he'd bring you to Jackson. And so he knows he's getting his kids. He knows he's bringing them. Do you think that he tried a little bit to clean up before you got there?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like what you saw, do you think it had actually been a little bit worse? Like, do you think that maybe he was like, I should put the guns in the shoes. Yeah, I don't think there was any thought about anything whatsoever. We just went to see him and then we would play like, Pac-Man and asteroids at the pizza restaurant
Starting point is 00:51:13 that he worked at and then we went back to his place. And my brother, I don't remember this, but my brother was like, he's endlessly amused that, you know, this, these neighbors had come over to see if we wanted to go. Um, I can't remember if it was squirrel or raccoon hunting. And my brother was like, um, yeah. Uh, my, our father isn't home right now. We have to wait and ask him, but it was like, we're not actually interested in cone hunting.
Starting point is 00:51:49 It was really just visiting people that we loved. And I think as far as we knew, we were having a great summer. Yeah. And so how many days, so your summer was in Mississippi and you would go visit your dad for how long of the summer? Was it just a couple of days or a week? Well, I think we would start,
Starting point is 00:52:10 like I think we'd go to New Orleans for like maybe a week and then probably pass Christian for like two to three weeks and then we'd go up to Jackson and Hattiesburg, which is actually where my father lived. My grandmother was in Jackson. And he would mainly, oh boy, he would come visit us at our grandmother's house, but sometimes he would just be staying in a motel
Starting point is 00:52:42 and we would go visit him at a motel. He also said he was involved with the Mississippi mafia. I don't know what was going on. But so I think we were in Jackson and Housberg probably a week or two. Do you think he told you the mafia thing to show off or do you think he just thought you'd find it interesting, or do you think he was just making it up?
Starting point is 00:53:09 Well, he didn't tell me about the Mississippi mafia until that time he visited me in Virginia. The next morning after he had surprised me on my show, he had taken me to IHOP for breakfast, and we were sitting there talking. And that's when he filled me in on his involvement in the Mississippi mafia in the 70s. And he said, you know, I don't know if you remember, but I carried a lot of guns and was, I can't remember how he described it, but he was always like up to something.
Starting point is 00:53:48 You know what I mean? Like, but I don't think anything was really going on. And he had a CB in his car and he was always talking to truckers. And it seemed like my father for a while also father for a while also worked as a security guard at a motel. And I think that when there was weird behavior at the motel, he would call the cops and there would be like a bust that would happen. And as an adult, after sitting at breakfast with him at IHOP when he was telling me about his Mississippi mafia days, I kind of added up that maybe he thought he was a little more involved with stuff than he was.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And so it was just kind of... What was, when you went up to see him, like what was your mom's vibe with you guys going out? Like what was their relationship later in life? Was she like, all right, you've got him for a week, or did she give you guys a big speech about like, don't touch any of the guns in his boots or anything? I don't even know if she...
Starting point is 00:55:06 You know, it's the 70s. I don't feel like people were as... My parents weren't as in tune with, you know, I think my mother and my stepfather were just like, bye-bye. Yeah. And had no idea what was going on at his place. But my mother never really talked about my father.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I think that they met in college in Mississippi, and my father and my uncle were friends. And my uncle introduced my father to my uncle were friends. And he, my uncle introduced my father to my mother. And I'm pretty sure my mother got pregnant at a wedlock and then married my father. And then they split up when I was six months. And so I don't know if she had too much information on him. It is funny after a certain point of time,
Starting point is 00:56:04 she could ask you, what's that guy like? You know, like at some point you passed him. Emily, I think kind of always in love with my mother. It just like lit up whenever he talked about her. Was she, was your mother still alive when you did one Mississippi, when you did the show about, because she passed away. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:26 She had died a couple of years before. And in fact, I landed back in LA. I got a voicemail that my father had died. Oh, wow. Was your, I would assume based on the amount of pride it seems both you and your extended family have about the area. People must have been so excited that you did that show. Yeah, I just wanted to show,
Starting point is 00:56:51 I know all of the cliche bad stuff about the South and Mississippi, but, and I'm well aware of it in the state and areas history and the current state. However, I did have a very magical time in New Orleans and Mississippi. My family are as flawed as every other family. But what I'm most proud of is that they didn't have to move to a big city to accept me, you know, or have an openness, more impressive than if you move off and you meet people on the coast, West Coast and East Coast and you come back and you go, yeah, I have some gay friends or I have some black friends or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I feel very lucky and I wanted to present my experience. A lot of people, after they saw my show, they said that they were waiting for my big coming out moment on the show, but I wanted to show, it wasn't hard for me to come out to my family. It was- Yeah, that's nice. It's, I wanted to come out to my family. Right, yeah, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I wanted to show my version of Mississippi, especially in the first season. The second season I wanted to go into more of the political and social issues, but I wanted to set it up the first season with the good that I experienced. Have you taken the boys back there? Do they?
Starting point is 00:58:48 Yeah, they've been, I think, probably 15 times now. That's great. And do they look forward to it? They love it so much. And yeah, we go all the time. We actually just got back. We were there two weeks ago. It's really nice. And I was, I got some award in Jackson. I had gone there with my stepfather and my brother to receive the award. And we were walking after
Starting point is 00:59:17 dinner down some street in downtown Jackson and some guy got up from his table and ran out of the restaurant and chased me down the sidewalk and thanked me for shining a light on the state in positive ways, you know? Because I always feel bad for people that are in those areas that don't represent what people think of.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah, it's so easy to just stereotype it and broad brush it. And it's obviously it's so nuanced and there's so many different kinds of people and they're everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. And there's rough stuff and racism in other states too. Yeah, of course. New York and California and Illinois.
Starting point is 01:00:15 But as soon as I say I'm from Mississippi, people are like, oh, what was that like? Right. You know, like, what was it like being gay, you know, being gay and from Mississippi? What is your family? And I'm like, my family hosted the biggest gay weddings, probably ever in Mississippi.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah, so step off, big boy. Where's your wife from? New York and California. Gotcha, and does she love it as well? She loves it. And when we first, I tell this story in my HBO special, but when we first met and I told her, I was from Mississippi, she was like, Mississippi.
Starting point is 01:00:54 She said, I picture people barefoot there. And I was like, oh my gosh. I said, I get it. And yes, people run around barefoot, but they have jobs, my family is civilized, whatever, just like other people's families. And then when Stephanie was coming out to meet my family, everybody rented one of those huge 16 passenger vans and they all piled in it and drove from Mississippi
Starting point is 01:01:26 to New Orleans. They spent the afternoon in the French Quarter walking around, hanging out, killing time until Stephanie's flight arrived. And then, you know, you can drink in your car there and you can open. Okay, so they brought a cooler in the van. And, and we're in the French Quarter. And I said, Hey, oh, my gosh, Stephanie's plane is landing soon. We got to wrap it up and go to the airport. So everybody gets back in the van. And we drive to the airport. I drove the airport, I was sober. And I pull up to right outside baggage claim. And I said, airport, I was sober, and I pull up to right outside baggage claim and I said, okay,
Starting point is 01:02:07 stay here. I'm going to go in, get Stephanie and I will meet you right out here. And they're like, all right, I go in, I get Stephanie. I'm so excited to see her. It's, you know, we've been to get it's our first year together. She's about to meet my family and my family's so excited to meet her. We walk out and we're just like looking at each other and she goes, is that your family? And I look over and they are right where we parked, but they had pulled the cooler out on the sidewalk and they had taken their shoes off because we had been walking around the French Quarter all day, so they're barefoot going, whoop! They're dancing!
Starting point is 01:02:52 And just like 15 family members going nuts, screaming with a cooler. And I was like, oh my God, yes, that is my family. It's really great. I also think that, you know, I'm hoping that Miss Stephanie saw that she was like, oh my God, yes, that is my family. It's really great. I also think that, you know, I'm hoping that Miss Stephanie saw that she's like, I don't know why I ever looked down my nose at not having shoes on.
Starting point is 01:03:12 These people are having the time of their life. Oh my God, Stephanie is like, you know, look, she has her issues with, she is as far left as you can get, but as open and accepting and loving as my family is, they're not far, far left by any stretch of the imagination. There have been conversations where,
Starting point is 01:03:36 not this past Easter, but the Easter before, everybody was sitting up until late, talking and drinking and getting into every political and social issue. It's 11 o'clock at night. I'm sitting there going, oh my god, I'm not going to get into any of this. And I could see Stephanie getting irritated because if somebody does not fully get on board and understand these views that she clearly understands and feels. I can see it escalating. I said to her, you know, for better or worse, it's not going to be awkward,
Starting point is 01:04:17 but if you want to leave, we can leave. But if you're okay, and sleep on this, nobody's going to bat an eye. Nobody's holding a grudge. You know what I mean? but if you're okay and sleep on this, nobody's gonna bat an eye. Nobody's holding a grudge, you know what I mean? But she definitely feels like she loves that town so much. She loves my family. They love her. I just think that you probably in mixed company, I just think that you probably in mixed company,
Starting point is 01:04:51 no matter where you are at 11 o'clock, have been drinks. Yeah, it might not be the time to come to a- Might not. General agreement. Is it the best feeling, because my wife has this with our kids, but is it the best feeling that your kids love the place you love? Yes and I talk about it all the time my gratitude because you know Stephanie and I jokingly call each other country mouse and city mouse and I look I'm I'm pretty city mouse too, but I've got a lot of country mouse in me.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And I just love that my kids devour it when we go there. And that they can't they I can see it in their eyes. And they just it's that I'm'm seeing it all over again when we arrive. We went to New Orleans for my cousin's wedding and my son was like, and then we're going to go to Pasquershan, right? And I said, well, not this trip. We're just going to, he couldn't comprehend. We're just right there. Why would we?
Starting point is 01:06:02 And I said, well, the whole family's in New Orleans for the weekend. Why would we go to Pastor Shand? He just, they love it so, so much. That's great. Yeah, my wife grew up in New Mexico. Kids love New Mexico. She would spend summers on Martha's Vineyard,
Starting point is 01:06:21 which our kids do. They love Martha's Vineyard. And they've never been to a place I ever lived. They've been in New Hampshire, huh? Sure, they drove through it once, I think, by the way. Barely, barely. So do you wish that they were more connected to where you're from?
Starting point is 01:06:40 You know, the nice thing is we, our parents are close enough to drive down and see us here and just be having three kids. Like, it's easier to have home games with your parents than take them on the road. But I, yeah, one day I would like them to, you know. They're only eight, six, and almost three. You'll get around to it. You'll get around to it, Suv.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Yeah, one day. I mean, you live pretty close to New Hampshire, right? Yeah, we do. Yeah. It's pretty astute, Tig. You've seen some maps. You've seen some maps. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I have some plans. I have some plans. What does your wife think of New Hampshire? I think it's fine. You know, I think of New Hampshire? It's fine. I think that's probably the best way to describe it. I think she thought it was going to be quainter. Like that it was a, you know, I think that she thought of our- She thought it was a Pasquash Jam. Yeah, she thought it was Robert Frosty,
Starting point is 01:07:38 like where's the little downtown. And I love our hometown, but it is, wouldn't you say Posh, it's more suburbs? Yeah, I mean, it has like its little old part of town with like the really old buildings, the town hall, the library, that section of town, but there's not, it's not like that's a good little pedestrian area to sort of walk through.
Starting point is 01:08:00 We don't have like the coffee shop that's also a bookstore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. We love it. I love it. I love it too.
Starting point is 01:08:11 This has been wonderful, Tig, and we are now going to ask, oh, I have a real quick question about your podcast. I don't remember if this is, I saw you went on Colbert, and you were talking about Strike Force V, and you said that there were, there's five hosts and you said three of them were handsome
Starting point is 01:08:29 and you didn't name which one. I don't want you to name all three, but am I one of the three handsome? I mean, have you seen your face? I was sitting here looking at both of you going, well look, I mean, you both got a handsome face. Oh, sorry, good, good, good. It's nice to hear.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I know, when I made that joke, I thought, you know, I mean, there was a fleeting moment where I thought, is this rude or will I hurt feelings or will people understand me? Oh, it's great. The egos, the egos and those five men, you had to know you were gonna blow up little parts of their brains.
Starting point is 01:09:05 But it was really expertly delivered. So that was what I, I mean, obviously I had to go. I'd get some validation, but. Of course, of course. It stuck with him. All right, Posh is gonna ask you some questions. All right, Tig, you can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous or educational?
Starting point is 01:09:26 Well, as a person with a seventh grade education, I would say that I like to relax. Yeah, let's not start educating now. No. What is your favorite means of transportation? Train, plane, automobile, boat, bike, walking, something else? Water skis while gatorskis. Gatorskying.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I mean, I, you know, I, I love, I walk every day. So, I think when I'm on vacation, I do enjoy renting a boat. Um, that's, that's one of my favorites. Can you I do enjoy renting a boat. That's one of my favorites. Can you drive a boat? Are you like from, okay. Not only can I drive a boat, I can park a boat, okay? That's, yeah, that's the hard part. That's the country mouse in me.
Starting point is 01:10:18 But I can also drive a motorcycle. I can drive and back up a truck with a trailer on the back. If you think that's easy, it's not. Yeah. It is for Country Mouse though. Yeah. My fiance is an equestrian and she's got like a three horse trailer.
Starting point is 01:10:34 And I don't even like moving her truck to the other side of the street, if there's street cleaning, but she hooks up that trailer and drives to Montana. And it's just like, okay. Yeah, I cannot. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional,
Starting point is 01:10:54 other than your own family, what family would you like to take a family vacation with? Vacation with dead people. Well, when they're alive, I don't think you wanna go when they're- Yeah, they're not. There's six boxes and me on this vacation. This is gonna sound weird.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I am still very close with my first girlfriend and I'm very close with her 83, 84 year old parents and her siblings. And I'm very close with her 83, 84 year old parents and her siblings. And in fact, my wife and kids and I also go visit them in Ohio in the summers and stay with her parents. And I, when I was younger, my dream was like to make enough money to take her parents on their dream vacation, which was to go to Ireland, which they've already done.
Starting point is 01:11:54 So I'm like, ah, but they're so fun. And they're so funny. And I love them all so much. And our families connect so deeply with them, that I think that it would be. I love going to see them in Ohio, but I would love to actually go someplace and explore with them, especially her parents in their eighties now. Like I just think it would be so fun to do that with Max and Finn. That's great.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Cause that's one, that's an answer that actually feels achievable. And- Instead of people are like Bart Simpson. I'll go with the Simpsons. Well, it seems achievable, but as the years take by, I'm like, oh God, we're like 83, 80, something like 84 now. Yeah. And it's getting tricky.
Starting point is 01:12:58 So that's why we go to Ohio. Yeah, but to get away, I can see the benefit of getting away from the trappings of home. Like when you're home, you're still gonna do laundry. You're still gonna like, you know, yeah. I think that's a great answer. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?
Starting point is 01:13:18 Oh my gosh. My immediate family with Stephanie and Max and Finn? Yeah, or extended family. just a member of your family. If you consider them part of your family, I guess just a friend doesn't count, but Stephanie counts. No offense to Stephanie or Finn, because they are absolutely delightful and remarkable travelers.
Starting point is 01:13:45 But my son, Max, reminds me of myself in ways as a child where I was always looking for some way to live off the land or discover dinosaur bones or follow a creek or river really far back. And he just has that in him, you know, where he, when I take him on a hike, he brings a canteen and a compass and a bunch of snacks. And he's, you know, in case we get trapped somewhere.
Starting point is 01:14:18 So to picture Max on a deserted Island, I would love to see what he imagined and the way he would try to make it like we were in danger every second and telling me to come get under the shade of the tree and do I think we can eat these berries? And I just, I can't even imagine what he would be thinking of on a deserted island.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Excellent. Oh, now I want it, so. Yeah, really. Now this is the achievable dream for you. Is your home, would you consider Pasquers Chan your hometown? Yeah. Okay, well, I was gonna, the question is, would you consider Pasquerschan your hometown? Yeah. Okay, well, I was gonna, the question is,
Starting point is 01:15:06 would you recommend Pasquerschan as a vacation destination? You've pretty much already answered that. I feel like, yeah. That's almost maybe just the scene of this. I would say yes, but there's really only one hotel there. Yeah. Over the Bay Bridge is a town called Bay St. Louis. And Pasquistian is pretty sleepy.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Like it's got a few restaurants and a few shops and the coffee shop and just the beautiful sleepy beach. But Bay St. Louis has antique stores and ice cream parlors and rooftop bars that overlook the ocean and like live bands playing and just a lot going on. So I would say, no offense to Pascal Shan,
Starting point is 01:16:00 but if you're looking to vacation, Bay St. Louis is so quaint and beautiful and has so many, exactly what you're talking about as far as the main strip, the main street, and it's so beautiful and has so many shops. Yeah. You should look it up. Google, Day St. Louis and Google Pastor Shan. It's rare that in one of these conversations, I'm actually like, oh, I'd like to actually go stay there. Like I'll go stay in Tacoma.
Starting point is 01:16:35 But yeah, this is ringing some good bells for me. This has been a real reverse Tacoma. I would say Tacoma of all our places we've been. I feel like our Tacoma guests also were not suggesting that you go to Tacoma. No, that's what I say, like Tacoma, even from people who came from Tacoma has not done well on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Yeah, although I do think it's probably beautiful being in the Pacific Northwest, but anyhow, back to this. Seth has our final questions. Tig, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I have been by there. Could you see it? Mm-hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I didn't do a trip to the Grand Canyon. I've been to like the Canyonlands and Utah and stuff. And I want to take my kids to the Grand Canyon. And my mother hung upside down on a railing into the Grand Canyon. So there's your answer, all things Grand Canyon. So you weren't there when she hung up? No.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I almost didn't make it into this world. Oh, this was before you were born. Yeah. And was she just a daredevil who just wanted to hang over the edge? She was wild. This was a story she told in her later years to let her kids know what a wild child she was?
Starting point is 01:17:57 Well, there is not a normal story about my mother. So that was like just, yeah, she hung upside down. Yeah. And just like truly. I feel like we've really, at the very tail end of a podcast, we realized that we've just left this completely unmind. We barely talked about your mother.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Talk about old guns in his boots. He got plenty of time. And then we're like, you're literally, yeah, she hugged over the Grand Canyon. That was like the most normal thing she ever did. This has been a delight. Everybody, Tig Notaro's special hello again, available to stream now on Prime Video. Tig, it was just the best to see you again. It was the best to see you. And if I can also encourage people to listen to my podcast, Handsome with Fortune Feimster and May Martin, it is just only nonstop ridiculousness. How many have you done? How long have you guys been doing it?
Starting point is 01:19:07 I don't know, since maybe August, something like that. All right. What about you? It's, we were about the same, right? When we started in like, yeah, June, July, it's a blast. You get it, we get the right people to talk to. It's a blast. Yeah, well, you guys should submit,
Starting point is 01:19:22 we have people submit video questions and so you don't have to spend any time with us. You can just be like asking us a question and then go about your life. You'll be getting a question from us very soon. Give our love to May and Fortune and thanks so much. Thanks for having me. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:19:49 Yeah, you could stay out in New Orleans. A town that gets all of the press. Go throw some beads and maybe see some boobs But an hour east is the best Buy a book and drink some coffee Lounge on the beach and get sun-kissed On the beach and get sun kissed Just drive across the Bay St. Louis Bridge
Starting point is 01:20:34 Your heart and soul will start to lift Pass Christian, there's gators, just be aware. Past Christian, you park your truck anywhere. Past Christian, it's down in Mississippi. You don't believe it, but you just gotta go and see. You

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