Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - TIM ROBBINS Grew Up in Greenwich Village

Episode Date: September 29, 2026

This week on the pod, Seth and Josh welcome Tim Robbins! Tim talks about growing up in 1960s Greenwich Village in a tiny apartment with his family, learning independence and survival on the streets of New York, and being raised by musician parents who took their family on cross-country road trips and travels. He shares stories about his parents’ adventurous life together, raising his own kids, and the road-trip games and punk rock that shaped his family’s travels. Tim also discusses his parents’ retirement in Mexico, his desire to make a film from interviews with them, and his experience working on "Silo." Watch this episode on the Family Trips YouTube or Spotify, or listen wherever you get your podcasts! 00:00 Introduction with Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers08:44 Tim Robbins Joins the Show11:09 Growing Up Greenwich Village15:37 Tiny Apartment Big Family19:27 Hockey Love and Kids Movies28:13 Road Trips Punk Rock and Family Touring41:22 Moving West and Family Reunions42:50 Parents' Adventurous Retirement44:20 Discovering Parents Love Story55:40 Supporting Family in Mexico57:47 Road Trip Games01:02:09 Silo and Working with Great Teams01:06:09 Speed Round and Farewell Support our sponsors: CologuardIf you're 45 or older and at average risk, talk to your healthcare provider about screening for colon cancer and ask if Cologuard Plus could be right for you. You can also request a Cologuard prescription online today at https://Cologuard.com Square Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at https://square.com/go/trips #squarepod Warby ParkerOur listeners can buy one pair of glasses and get 20% off any additional pairs at https://WarbyParker.com/TRIPS — and using our link helps support the show. #WarbyParker #ad IM8Go to https://IM8HEALTH.com/trips RIGHT NOW or click on the link in the description and use code trips for a Free Welcome Kit, five free travel sachets, plus ten percent off your order. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. Executive Producers: Rob Holysz, Jeph Porter, Natalie Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Video Editor: Josh Windisch Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, Sufi. How are you? I'm good. I've been on the road. Doing some California now stuff? Doing some California now. It was up in Mendocino County, which is gorgeous. Fort Bragg, Mendocino.

Rocky, rugged, really cool. Did a bunch of cool stuff. Right up your alley. Some sea kayaking. Road the skunk train. What's the skunk train? The skunk train years and years ago was this train that would sort of service these logging families that lived up in these mountains. And it was sort of run on this gas that sort of as this little car would be winding up, the sort of the breeze, the ocean breeze would push the smell of this train ahead of it.

So you could smell it before it was coming. The smell has since been alleviated, but it was sort of nicknamed the skunk train, which they resisted for years. And then the National Geographic wrote a story about it in 1959 saying how charming it was. And then they sort of embraced it. But it's been renovated, revamped. It used to be called, they wanted to call it the filthy rat train. How big is the skunk train? Now there's a presidential class car that we wrote in to feature in our episode.

And so if people wanted to ride the skunk train, is it getting from point A to point B or is the joy, the journey? The joy is the journey and then the joy takes you to, I'm going to forget. Skunktown? No, no, not skunk town. It takes you a few miles into the Redwood Forest. And then there's Glenn Blair Junction is an old stop. And there's currently a collapsed tunnel. So that is now the terminus for the time being.

They're going to rectify that. But they have built this sort of structure, this beautiful structure, and they have these fire pits, and they have food, and they have a bar, and they have live music. So you take the skunk train up there, you get out, you hang out, you have drinks, smores, dinner, enjoy some live music. And then the train keeps running back and forth. So new waves of people will arrive. And then if you've got little kids, maybe you take off. What's the time of the skunk journey? Our train took off around six, I think.

And then maybe it's every hour or so, every half hour. But how long does it take to get from point A to point B? It's about a half an hour, I think. Oh, that's perfect. Yeah. Maybe a little less even. It's great. And there's like there's some open cars where you just out

side and you can look up at the sky and the redwoods and dogs are allowed. So it was the first time I saw it leaving. We were not on it. And there were like three dogs sticking their heads out the windows, which is adorable. And then the dogs get up into the forest and obviously they love it. That's amazing. Great smells. Yeah.

Is it true you went to the mom told me you went to the little inn we stayed at once when we went on vacation? Well, I looked at an elk. California. Right. I was right near there sea kayaking and I wanted to see how far away it was. But it's closed, permanently closed. Probably because of what happened to me. Oh yeah, you got real bad poison ivy. Yeah, we dropped a scrabble tile off into the woods. Basically off an edge. I went looking for a scrabble tile and I think I got maybe, I got poison ivy so bad, I almost died. Yeah. You flew home and then saw the NBC doctor and they said you could have lost your leg. Yeah. They said like this is your leg is so swollen with poison ivy that you could have like just an artery could have like just exploded. Yeah. So I'm glad it's closed. Sea kayaking. You're not going to see me doing that. But how how was it? It was great. And we went through these caves. I had never been through a cave in a kayak. Very exciting. We had. A guide, obviously. You should do these things with a guide.

Craig Komen from Kayak Mendocino was our guide. And, you know, he tells you when to come in and when to sort of shoot through. There was this one cave called The Rumbler, where you really hear these sort of big booms of these waves that come in as they hit these little pockets. But it was not scary. I don't know what to be in a cave called the Rumbler. We saw a seal A seal was like poking us head up Looking at us

Very cool You know what else is cool Kayak is a palindrome Yeah Not my favorite palindrome though What's your favorite palindrome Race car? Yeah, that's a good one

Yeah, I like that one What's the other one? Madame, I'm Adam That's a good one No, it's not I mean Yeah, it's true Race car is better

I was home with kids I'll just say briefly, all the kids got geared up, put on all our Steelers gear. This was for a Steelers Patriots game that was absolutely ugly and brutal, and everybody's really excited. And I actually give credit to all three kids, two minutes into the game. They were like, we're going to go watch a movie. I'm like, go with God. I was like, I don't want this for you.

Yeah. I don't want you to have to live in this world. Yeah. Yeah. A quick shame on the NFL network. How's that? I'm in L.A. I don't have the Sunday ticket.

I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it this year. I look and I see Steelers and Patriots. It's on. I have the game. It was amazing. Great. I put it on.

I watch the kickoff. They're like, the Patriots are two and one. The Steelers are two. I'm like, this is the second game of the season. What's going on? I look in the upper right-hand corner.

It says, week three, 2025. Right. So the same day that there's a Steelers at Patriots game, the NFL network

has decided to show Steelers at Patriots from a year earlier trying to trick me, trying to trick Steelers fans. Or maybe doing you a favor. They're like, just watch this one.

You guys win this one. Trust me, you know, I want to watch the one that's going to happen today. Yeah. Man, Tim Robbins, an actor I love

and what a conversation yeah this guy has just been a cool dude for a very long time and yeah starts off great just like from the opening shot we know we're getting something unique yeah he's just immediately

coffee all over the place he recovers never loses his cool enjoy the conversation enjoy the skunk train but if you know what's good for you don't take a kayak into the Rumbler no do that

Do that, do that. Also, if you haven't been watching Silo, you should check out Silo. And it's part of what old Tim Robbins is here for to talk about the series. You know what else is a good palindrum? Rumbler, Rolomer, Rumbler. Yeah, that one's better than Madame I'm Adam. Enjoy everybody. Thank you.

Family chips with the mice brothers in chips. Yes, we're looking at beams. We're looking at a lamp. Looks like some sort of stairs going up. Yeah. This looks like, oh, look at that entrance. Whoa. You're just making a cup of Joe off to the side there?

Oh, I don't mean, this is, everything about this is great. I was just having a little coffee disaster. I love it. How are you, Tim? I'm good. How are you, Seth? I'm wonderful. I'm very excited to talk to you, Tim, because you, you,

You were a child of Greenwich Village. I was indeed. And now I'm raising three children of the Greenwich Village. And, you know, Josh and I are just simple suburban boys. And it seems like you turned out okay. Yeah, well, what you don't know won't kill you. Do you want to give Tim a second to sort out his coffee emergency set? No, I like talking to.

This is very fun for me. This is like, I don't know, like a walk-and-talk. This is like an Aaron Sorkin scene. Can he still do it? Yes, look, see, it's all, it's all sorting itself out. That's fantastic. Yeah. Greenwich Village in the 60s was a different world.

And I'm writing about it right now. I'm doing a memoir. Do you have good, like, is your memory strong? For those days? For certain days, yes. Yeah. You know, memory's clouded in a combination of overload and trauma, you know? You know, I was just talking to a friend of mine about this that we were talking about something in our past and had completely different memories of it.

And I realized, you know, there's just a certain capacity we have for memory. And some people remember something, some people don't. And it doesn't mean neither of them was untrue. But as I'm writing this, I'm also doing a memoir. Along with the memoir, I'm also been doing a website. So it's been a really interesting journey. But Greenwich Village in the 60s was told. Total chaos.

Yeah. This clash of worlds, the old Italian, Irish people that had shops were now being bought out in the 90s by, you know, yuppies and upward mobility. So this village really changed a lot. and I would say it's great to raise your children amongst a in any city, but particularly in New York that has such a diversity of culture and language. They learn very early on that the world is a wide place. And it's a much more rounded education, I would say, for children to grow up in that chaos. When did you realize that you grew up in a place that was so markedly different than the rest of the country?

That's the thing you don't realize until much later. Like I was, I thought everyone in the world had, you know, folk clubs down the street, you know, and junkies strung out on the corner. Yeah. Wasn't until I went to college that I understood what a leg up I had in life. because I was watching my fellow freshmen freaking out about the stupidest things. And, you know, when you've survived, you know, near murder, you're a little more ready for the world, I guess. You know, I saw some pretty crazy things when I was growing up. And you don't think about it at the time,

you think everyone has this experience, but then you realize when you meet other people and you're in the wider world that not everyone had as crazy of a childhood as I did. Yeah, we certainly, Seth and I both went to Northwestern, and I think we felt that from all of the people from New York, who, like, there was just a greater worldliness to them, and they just seemed more at ease with sort of arriving,

on a new campus. Like, it was almost like boring for them. Yeah, because. And they were like, ugh, like, this is, this is a drag. Yeah. You know, they grew to enjoy it. I mean, what, what's everyone freaking out about? This is, try going to Times Square, you know, on 10 p.m.

I've done a couple, I've done a couple of commencements for, you know, New York City high schools. And one thing I've said is like, hey, you're going to go to college and just do me a favor. Like, don't show up and tell everybody there how boring it is compared to New York. Like, the rest of it, they're all excited. Like, kids from small towns are going to be excited to be a college. And I know you're going to be like, ugh, but like, just keep it to yourself. Did you, you had three siblings, right? Three siblings.

Where do you land in the birth order? The baby. Wow. Baby. and were you close? Yes, we had to be. We lived in a five-story walk-up railroad flat. There wasn't really even a bedroom in the apartment.

My parents slept on a convertible couch. Me and my brother slept in a walk-in closet on bunk beds, and my sisters lived in loft beds above where we had dinner. So it was really tight. Yeah, that's what I mean. So your parents are. were musicians, right? They were both music. They were both musicians. They met in the UCLA marching band.

Dad was a drum major. Mom played the flute. Dad went on to a career in music, and my mom became a mom, raised the family. And then once I was in first grade, started working again in publishing. and she also was a singer and president of the New York Cross Society. So she kept her relationship with music throughout her life. That's amazing. And what streets are you guys on? King Street.

Okay, wow. King between 6th and 7th or Avenue of the Americas and Verrick. Yeah. But it was 6th and 7th. At what age were you, I mean, I imagine with so many people in such a small, space, New York City right outside the door, at what age could you sort of go off and wander on your own? Six. Yeah, okay. It was crazy. Yeah. I mean, they really didn't, I mean, it did teach you survival for sure. Yeah. And you, I learned that it was very good to be able to have some

sneakers on so that you could run. Yeah. My survival was mostly running. I got a little bit older and I had to learn to fight. And then fighting didn't necessarily mean survival because if you were fighting with a psycho path, which I had to do a couple times, they don't, they will say they, you know, they'll say uncle and then they'll attack you again. So it was pretty crazy. Were you, I've heard tell from friends of mine who grew up in the city, did you carry like sort of your money in two different places so if you got mugged, you could give away half of it? Yeah. Yeah.

I still do. No, you definitely had some money in your shock. Right. But the trick to that, though, was to just not have money. Yeah, that's, yeah. Just be poor. That's the life hack there? Yeah, that's the life hack.

Just be poor and you won't get mugged. I mean, I imagine, obviously, it seemed like you had pretty tight living quarters. So I feel like your parents had no choice but to let you guys go out and wander around. It's not like they could expect you to just hang out in the apartment. It was the only thing to do. I mean, there was the roof. But mostly you get home from school, change into my running shoes, some clothes that I could not, you know, get out of my school uniform, essentially. and go out and play till dinner.

And that play involved sneaking into some place to play softball or running or roller skating to play hockey. That was my two after-school activities. Which were you better at? Were you better at hockey or baseball? Probably better at baseball. Yeah. I got better at hockey.

I got really good at hockey when I was in my 30s and 40s, and wound up being able to play at a pretty high level. And that was, were you sort of in that sort of L.A. hockey click? No, I was in the Chelsea Pears. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. I do know that hockey click out in L.A. I have played with them. but I had a lunchtime game every day at Chelsea Piers for years. So kind of open hockey.

And then I joined a couple leagues there. I still play on the weekends. I play roller hockey with a bunch of guys out in Santa Monica. And yeah, for me, it's the great sport. It's the one. It's the most beautiful sport. My kids are, my boys, I got a little bit. grows at five. My boys are 10 and 8 and they

are obsessed with sports movies. And I, it, it just occurred to me that, you know, Bull Durham's coming up, but I feel like 10 and 8 are still a little young for Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. As much as I'd love for them to get there. It's more like Sandlot time.

Yeah. They did League of their own, which is perfect. Yeah. And I feel like we can get maybe even to major league, but there's, I think there's just too much, uh, it's too steamy in a good way. Bull Durham's too steamy. Yeah, it's too steamy and there's some bad language. Yeah. They use bad language, those kids use bad language. Yeah, we got a problem with our kids in language. Yeah. They've crossed

the Rubicon of bad language, sadly. What's the worst thing they say? I mean, they say the F word all the time and it's, I don't know where they, I mean, don't they pair it with you and say it to you? It's bad, yeah. Ouch. It's really bad. Cations for that set. You got to set a list. You got to set a limit. They walk all over me. It's that way. I mean, I really, were you good at that?

Were you, with your kids? Did you guys draw a firm line in the sand? Because I just, that moment is past. I feel like they just, they clocked me as a push on. Yeah. Never too late. Okay. That's good to know.

Discipline. No, I, I think we were pretty good about drawing a line. You know, it's funny. You don't really. Like, your kids, my kids, I get compliments from people all the time. You know, they're in their 30s and once over 40 now. But throughout the last 20 years, I've been getting incredible compliments from others about how well-behaved and polite and genuinely kind they are. And but whenever they're around me, they're just.

Yeah, it's, that's the way it's, you never know. It is, I mean, and I will, like, I feel like a good educator will tell you, look, you get the worst of it. Like, because they, your kids work really hard to, like, fit in at school and behave and, like, they're good kids. But, like, then the price is, you know, they come home and they're like, you know, they're still kids and they're just like, yeah. Expect the unbridled id at home. So that's just going to emerge. And it's great that it, they feel comfortable enough that it is allowed. Right.

Because if that was suppressed at home, that could wind up with big trouble. It's kind of that thing you learn as a parent, just unconditional love. You can do whatever you. You can say whatever you want to say. You can act in whatever way. I'm still going to love the hell out of you. It's just there's no changing my resolve. And I'm going to love you no matter what.

Yeah. They know that. and they are really testing it. Are you? You know what the best thing I've learned, though, recently, though, is that how important it is to have humility. And as a parent of, you know, people in their mid-30s and 40s, it's a huge thing for them if you have an apology in you about something,

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Run your business smarter with Square. Get started today. In partnership with Airbnb, I'd like to share a travel story. Oh, yeah, go for it, Sufi. You know what I like Pashi? What's that? I like a neighborhood. Yeah, me too.

You know what I mean? I like to feel like I'm traveling and I'm amongst the locals. I'm not near a chain restaurant that I have in my hometown, but I'm by a cafe that only those who live there and walk those cobbled streets are familiar with. And so when Alexi and I went to Paris on a vacation, we booked an apartment on Airbnb. What neighborhood were you in, Sufi? We were in the Marais, Pashi. Oh, the Marais. And if you haven't been to the Marais, I don't even know how to describe it to you.

You know what they call it in Paris? What's that? La Marais. Or Le Marais. You've been. I haven't, but I would love to. And let me just tell you that it's just wonderful. You know what I mean?

You're just in a home that the owners have taken great care and attention to make comfortable for you on your vacation. and you're just amongst everyone you're a me that's friend poshie oh you're a me yeah yeah yeah yeah lez-a-me booking a trip on air b and b makes her a better trip you could be traveling with family you could be looking to discover authentic and local experiences you could be taking a trip with a group of friends a group of a me too les ami did your parents were they uh were they uh california people that they met at ucela Yeah, they, um, dad, dad's family was from Washington State stock, pioneer, um, covered wagon people. Um, and mom was from Missouri, uh, then L.A. So, uh, they were both, dad was raised in Long Beach.

Mom was raised in Westwood, California. And they, they both went to UCLA and met there. Did you, uh, was California part of your upbringing? Do you ever go back? out there for trips when you were very little we didn't have that much money um i left l a i was stolen by my mother in uh 1960 so i was two years old so i didn't really know ellie i i all i can think of is for the first two and a half years of my life it was very quiet and then it got very busy and loud yeah when they moved to new york city It's a great story. My dad was on the road with a group called the Cumberland 3, and he saw Greenwich Village for the first time. And this lovely woman named Ronnie Gilbert from a group called The Weavers invited my father to what they called a living wake for Cisco Houston, who was a friend of Woody Guthrie's.

And Cisco was sick and dying, and everyone knew it. And so the folk community in Greenwich Village at the time threw a living wake for him, and everyone got up on stage and said beautiful things and sang some of his songs. And he was there to witness his own wake. And my father was included in that night and was so moved by it that he called my mother and said, you know, Mary, I think I found the place where we have to raise our children. It's in this community here. And so she put four kids in the station wagon, drove her.

cross country to see it for herself agreed drove back packed up the house and that's how we moved to New York City went in 1960 when when she drove back to pack up the house did she bring all four of you back with her or did she leave you with your dad she brought all four of us back man she got expert in traveling with children across country man oh man so you're only two and a half for that so you don't have real memories of that no I don't have memories of that My siblings do, though. Yeah. And by the way, I'm sure your mom had memories of that until the day.

Oh, yeah. She passed. She actually wound up writing an article for a newspaper on how to travel with children. Really? It's really interesting. Were there any tips you remember from that article that are helpful for the modern parent? Yes, don't push it. Eight hours a day, find a motel of the pool.

Yeah. And have games for. for inside the car. Yeah. Just different various games. I remember singing. She used to sing a lot. We used to sing a lot in the car.

I mean, that's lovely. I mean, to have a, you know, my kids do not have either parent that can carry a tune. But I would imagine that's very nice to have parents you can sing. Well, particularly when you start singing in rounds and harmony, it's pretty crazy. Was that something your children had? Did you, when, I mean, you probably had less of a, road trip in a car when your kids were going out. We had some road trips in cars.

I remember those things with the little shades in them, and if you spot this, you get to shade it. Yeah, yeah. It's like an auto bingo, I think it's called. Yeah. Those, I found those. And then music was a big part of it. I introduced my children to punk rock this way.

When you've got them locked up in a car, they have no choice. And did they take to it? I'm trying so hard to introduce my music. music to the kids when they're a captive audience. And I feel like it just if they know it's music I like, it's a strike against it. That's the problem. If you say kids, you've got to hear this. They're going to hate it.

Yeah. But if it's just on, it's just osmosis. At some point, they, it will. That's a good tip. For your article, that's a good tip when you write one about traveling with kids. I like that. I got it. Does punk rock try to like meet them where they are in terms of an energy level?

It seems like that might amped up to a place. How does their energy? It's like you think you can throw a tantrum? Check this guy out. Yeah. We were playing a game. I started just because we were driving the other day home from the airport and I had three kids in the car and it was just me. My wife wasn't with me.

And they were losing their minds. And so I came up with a game of like, all right, we're going to go around each kid. You have to find something out the window that starts with an A. I was just something, find something that starts with an A. And just to go back to like my kids in language, when it got to D, my oldest son just pointed at his dick. That was, and I'm just like, what are we doing? I don't want to look out the window and find anything. He literally was like, dad, dad, dad, and then just like, point it down.

I'm like, I don't care if you're any of you. Oh, my God. Well, ABC was also ass balls cock, so. So, I get it. So you guys were, you know, you have artists or parents. There's four kids. I'm assuming, I mean, what would you guys take trips? Or did you just not have the means for that kind of thing?

So not a lot of trips because we did, well, we lived in New York City, didn't have a car. But occasionally we would take a trip. Like in 1966, 65. or 66, I forget. We were invited to do this promotional tour for Everettie Batteries. Because my dad was a singer and played guitar,

it was called the Everettie Robbins' cordless corners with the Everettie Robbins' and we got in a car and went around the eastern seaboard as far west as St. Louis and would go to TV stations and radio stations and sing songs, the four kids and my parents.

And so that was a summer on the road where we were hitting various places and doing these TV shows. My first taste of show business, I was seven, I think. And we'd sing the ink is black, the page is white. together we learned or read and write that songs like that um and um i remember a lot of those it was a rambler station wagon and uh it was a huge adventure you know every every place we went there was more fun stuff to do you know baseball games in st louis and uh hotels and uh pools and was this uh so how do your parents present this like hey guys

We're going to go on a road trip, but we're also going to be performing as a family. Was that something like when they explained it to you, was that shocking or was that sort of the norm for your family and how you'd been grown up? I don't even really remember them explaining it. I just, I just remember just being at the first TV station going, okay, we're going to sing. We do this all the time. I mean, I guess that probably helps not having anxiety about it to just all of a sudden be singing on television. Yeah. I never had the feeling like if I screw this up, this will be bad.

I never had that feeling. Was that true of your other siblings? Were you all wired the same way? I don't remember anyone freaking out and saying, I don't want to do this. No. Matching outfits? Did you guys, were you all dolled up? No, that would have been weird.

Yeah. But we had been exposed to our father on stage for years, and so it seemed like a natural thing to do. I had seen them in concert and were those local would you just go kind of to go to a folk club and Greenwich Village and watch you down on stage or would you travel yes but also folk festivals that were around the tri-state area you know there was that whole it was a pretty beautiful world actually of I think I don't think they've really gotten it right in film yet But it was an intensely welcoming community.

It wasn't cynical. It was quite beautiful. Were those festivals, would you be at a hotel, or were you guys campers at all? Not campers, no. We were more motel kind of people. Yeah. Yeah. And then the motel pool, I'm assuming, got worn out by you and your siblings?

Yeah. Yeah. Did you, when you would go to those festivals, would you see music that wasn't your dad? And did you have a taste for it? Did you enjoy it? I did. Yeah, Pete Seeger was, I remember he was around. I remember him, my sister telling a story of Pete Seeger carrying her to the car when she was asleep,

it was falling asleep. Dave Van Ronk was around. There was some really good musicians. Incidentally, all inspired by, you know, this whole wave of people that wound up in Greenwich Village in the early 60s was inspired by troubadours that were going around the world, the United States, particularly one in particular, Pete Seeger, who had been a famous musician and was blacklisted,

And instead of falling into the traps that happened when that happens, like alcoholism and bitterness and anger, he just went on the road with his banjo and would pull into a town and book a place and get on the radio station and perform. And what he'd get up there, he'd say, you know, I used to be in a group called the Weavers and I need your help with the harmonies. So that's how he got all these audiences to sing along with him. And in those audiences throughout the United States, as Pete was doing his little missionary work, there were future folk singers, including Joan Baez, who writes about it in her book. It said, the first time I knew I could sing was at a Pete Seeker concert. And so all of these people came from all of the United States to this mecca in Greenwich Village. and all, by the way, created by someone that was dealing with adversity in a very healthy way. Were you, did it ever occur to you that you would have a profession that would not be artistic?

Or based on your family, did you sort of know your path at early age? Well, I never knew it would, I didn't take it for granted that it would be a profession, but I feel like I knew I would be doing it. in some capacity in my life. Whether or not you got paid for it, that was what you were gonna wait to find out. Yes, and indeed, I didn't get paid for it for the first 15 years I did it.

So, you know, it's, yeah, that's just the way it is. I mean, it's pretty good. I mean, obviously, it shows you, it's your passion when you do it for 15 years that couldn't pay for it. It's something, what I tell people, when they ask me advice on, you know, how do I become an actor, etc.,

what I usually say is, listen, if it's something that by not doing it, you'll be miserable, then maybe you should do it. Right. If it's going to drive you crazy to not do it, then do it. Because don't think the rewards are going to be fame or fortune. That happens with very few people. And so it has to be something, the motivation has to be that it brings you joy and you can't live without it. Yeah.

And then pursue it. And because then if you don't, if you don't quote-unquote make it, you're still finding joy in it. And that's ultimately going to feed your soul in a great way. But if it's something that you feel is only worthy if it means fame, then please don't do it. Yeah. Did you and your siblings all stick close to New York?

No, we all wound up on the West Coast. When you grow up in New York, it kind of loses this luster. But that said, I did raise my children in New York. And then I wound up in latter years. on the West Coast. Yeah. Did you and your siblings and parents get together in later years? Would you have reunions?

They wound up traveling all over the place. They went. When my mom retired, they took to the road. So should we wait on this siren or can you hear that? We can hear it. But I do want to point out it's not coming from New York City, just because I think our listeners would assume that it's my siren, but it's not.

Well, I'm actually in New York City. Oh, it's all right. Well, strike against it. Strike against it. Son of a gun. Take that. I lose again. Myers loses again.

Yeah, we don't have sirens where I live. No, no, no, no. Of course not. No. We have helicopters. Oh, that's nice. Very nice. So we would get together,

before they passed, we had a few times together. Gotcha. Yeah. And what were your parents travels then? Did they like buy an RV and cruise around? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, they did a, they did the, we don't, we're going to look for a place to live,

but we're going to be on the road while we do it. And they wound up, they wound up blowing the nest egg. They wound up to, they just kept traveling. Wait, this, this is my. You're telling me a couple of musicians were bad with money? Oh my goodness. Yeah, they wound up, they knew they wanted to be someplace warm. So they went south and Tennessee and Texas and Florida.

Then they realized maybe we want to try the south of France. Oh, wow. So they went to Europe into Italy and France. Spain and and then by the time they got back they pretty much had blown through the nest again so they wound up uh instead of you know doing an RV park they found a home in the south and uh in actually in Mexico oh wow beautiful area of Mexico and uh wound up retiring there and um you know uh this was a very sweet story before my dad died, I went down with a video camera and did some interviews with both of them.

And I got about 10, 12 hours of interviews. And I just wasn't able to look at them until just this past year. It was about 10 years ago. They died 12 days apart. And I was watching this about, five months ago and I thought oh my goodness this is a beautiful film

yeah this is a beautiful romance and I gotta tell that story so that's that's become something that's on the back burner right now but we'll soon be on the front burner to create a film out of

my parents' beautiful journey was it a thing that you observed your whole life that your parents were in a loving, wonderful partnership? No, that's not the way you look at it. You look at it like through the prism of the lens of whatever is going on in the culture at that moment, right? And so growing up in the late 60s, early 70s, we saw our mother through the prism of that feminist lens. And even though she was a working woman and learning a very good living.

We always, I think the society was asking us to look at the patriarchal problem, right? And so we, so don't think you're not immune or don't think you're immune to the propaganda. It's always there. And so it took till the last five, six years for me to look at it in a different way and realize, oh, my God, they were in love. That's the, that was at the core of it. It wasn't any subjugation or oppression. It was just simply love. Yeah.

It was simply she dug him and he dug her. And all, you can apply whatever. you want from any textbook or any sociological survey, those have nothing to do with what was going on with them. Well, it's nice. You're right, though, right? That trumps everything. That trumps the moment. That trumps the trends. If two people love each other. Yeah. And kids are, you know, when you're growing up at the time we grew up, you know, it was almost like every woman has been oppressed. and so therefore that had to have been in our family as well. And not at all.

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A group of a me. Too les ami. What do you think was your, I mean, what an incredible choice you made to go down and film them. What was the impetus? What was in your head that you thought I should do this? Well, he was dying and I wanted some stories. I wanted some stories about what crazy, what a crazy idea to take four children when you're growing, you're a new father, you're a new mother, you've got four children,

mom's working part-time, dad's working as teaching music in high school, and you completely uproot any kind of stability you have to go on the road to a foreign city and find a way to survive there with four children. Yeah, a young children. That's a great story. And did he look back on it? Did he have, did your parents have a lot of pride about the choice they made, you know, when they looked at their kids, were they like, gosh, how about that? I think so. I think that they will look at it this way.

They were looking at the choice being West Covina, California or Greenwich Village, United States. Yeah. And I think they were bored, quite frankly. I think they were, I think they wanted adventure. And they didn't view having children as something that's going to keep you from adventure. Right. And so it was risky what they did, but they pulled it off. And when dad got here, things started going really well for him.

And he became part of this successful group called The Highwayman, and they toured for five years, did five albums together. and, you know, carved their way through a certain part of music history. And at the same time, he was dealing with the challenge of raising children in a moral way, in a city of decadence. And we had to, you know, he had to navigate, and my mom had to navigate, how do you do that? there was a connection with the Catholic Church that both of them had that was part of it,

but also just within that, you have to have a rigorous scrutiny of everything. And I think at times it probably was a little overwhelming for them. Drugs became a big thing in the village in the 60s. and my brother, you know, had to dance along the ledge of that for a while. And it was difficult. There were difficult times. It was raising kids in a social experiment in a lot of ways. You know, that being the epitome of what other people would call the liberation or freedom

was oftentimes manifested in violence and danger, and particularly for children. So it was a survival. And I think they were proud of their choice to move there. I don't know that they knew how challenging it would be, but we all survived it. All the children survived it. And I think it made us much more well-rounded individuals, more curious, more intelligent than we would have been growing up in West Covina.

Although I'm sure there's geniuses that come out of West Covina. Yeah, we don't want to be hard on West Covina. No, I love it. It's my birthplace. Did your kids go down to Mexico when your parents were there? Did they? Yeah. Yeah.

Did they have a good relationship with your parents? They had, I wish it had been better. I wish that they had seen them more. And so it's kind of my job to tell them that story. And that's another reason I want to do the film. It's a, it's a worthy story. Was the Mexico place coastal? Yes.

That's nice. I mean, it feels like for somebody burned through a nest, They ended up pretty well. Well, you know, they had a kid that helped them. We're not going to name names. Your brother. You're not going to name. My brother.

You know, my grandfather taught me the greatest lesson. He said, he said, if you're going to be generous, be anonymous. Yeah. He says, there's no generosity in publicizing your generosity. Yeah. And it was, it was very true. He was a wise man. Yeah.

We also would notice you kind of worked through a loophole there. I mean, I think anybody listening also. I, I, I mentioned it just so that I, you know. You don't want people. Yeah. You want to, this should also be a cautionary tale to not burn through your nest egg. You know what I mean? They, but you know what?

I looked at it and I was like, God, I admire it. I just like, you guys are nuts. It's great. It's great that they stayed nuts. I mean, or they stayed on the edge of danger. They seem like fascinating people. Like, it would have been disappointing if late in life they were like, yeah, we, you know, good news.

We put money aside for a condo in Scottsdale. Yeah. That's not where they were supposed to land. Yeah, no, they had an adventurous life. It was, they did it up. Did you, was there ever a time? time in your life that you, that your parents and the four you were on an airplane together? Parents.

No. Isn't that something? Yeah. No. I mean, I can only imagine how quickly in their lives your children were on an airplane with you guys. Exactly. Like birth. Yeah.

Yeah. But no, we never took a plane trip anywhere. Yeah. Interesting. What were the best car guys? games that you had. Yeah, what were the, what were the Robbins go-toes? Well, it was the, I guess you said the bingo. Travel bingo. Yeah. But then the car game became the, you know, the technology, the iPads and the, oh yeah, the games and the little, little electronic games

became really great for long trips. Our dad used to do something that, looking back, I'm amazed by. He would play family feud in the car where he would be driving and he would say, top five most popular states to ski in. And then he would just like mentally make a list on his own. He would be,

and then we would just like sort of yell out, you know, Colorado. Be like, yeah, that's number one. But it was really awesome. He could do it while he was driving. He could come up with a list and he could like mentally hold it. Yeah.

And yeah. And I, Just, you know, there's that thing when you look back at how your parents behaved now that you're a parent and you realize how tired you are all the time, that they had the energy to do stuff like that. You just are retroactively in awe and full of appreciation for that. Yeah. Yeah. I would get into prolonged periods of like when I was when the kids were young, I, really got into playing again, you know? Like getting down on the floor with some blocks and some action figures. Yeah.

Creating an entire world, right? Well, it's permission. You probably didn't have permission to do that until you had children. At some point, it's like, hey, come on, Tim. Yeah. So I would go for hours. Yeah. And they'd be like, dad, we're done.

Yeah. Well, the worst is when you realize there's, You're like, no, dad, we're doing this. I'm like, no, no, no, this. And you're like, oh, it's not, this isn't. I shouldn't be taking the lead. Yeah, yeah. Jack, you don't understand.

I've created a whole castle over here. And there's a moat here and he got to jump over the moat. I called Seth recently on a on a FaceTime. And the whole time we were talking, he was putting together a Lego ship. Yeah. And none of his kids were around. And I was like, isn't that for the kids? kids, he's like, yeah, but this is, it just like soothes me.

So I'm just going to keep. Well, also, they had just unloaded this whole, like, just giant, like, clipper ship of Legos on our kitchen table. And then, like, idly just left it there. I'm like, it's just going to be a pile of Legos unless somebody acts here. I've done that. Have you done the Christmas morning thing where you have to, all Christmas morning, you have to put together the presents after they're opened?

Yeah. And then they're, by the way, you know, that's why, a. Baseball mint is the best thing, right? Because they don't get bored of it. Everything a parent has to put together is like the inverse is the amount of time they're actually going to be interested in it. Absolutely. So you just want to give them something that is already the thing it is.

Yeah. Yeah, I would, without breakfast, be so irritated by noon. Yeah. I wound up hating Christmas, you know, and. For the time being until next year, but I should have known this going in. You know, that's a great way to put it, the inverse proportion. You're going to spend five hours putting this together, and they're going to play with it for five freaking minutes.

Yeah. And then they're, like, off with, like, the simplest thing in the world. Like, then you just look outside and they're throwing, like, last year's football. You know, that was a hand-me-down from friends that had kids who were older. Or worse yet, they're playing with a, stick they found on the ground. My kid can't be. I pick my kids up at camp and they each have a stick and they're like, don't lose my

stick. I'm like, no problem, bud. But guess what? If you lose it, there's more sticks where this one came from. Yeah, but they'll know. That's not the stick I gave you. Hey, by the way, Josh and I were huge fans of the Wool series and the show's so good. Oh, thank you.

Silo's just wonderful. And it's a great cast, and I hope you enjoy it as much as we enjoy watching. I loved it. It's a great character. You've got a big old juicy character, too. He's great. Big old juicy change in the character. You go from one side of the spectrum to the other.

But you know what was amazing about it, guys, was just this. The people that they put together for it, the way that people were treated, the crews, the cast, directors, writers. It was just a dream. And I just pinch myself how lucky I was to be part of that group of people. And I was talking to Eric Avalino yesterday, just to congratulate him. He's one of the directors on the show. Just to congratulate them on how they brought it home. Nine and Ten were just, episodes nine and ten were just masterful. You know, usually when you're watching this long-form thing, you know, you're getting to the end of, like, after three seasons, you're getting to the end of, what, 30 hours of television? With streamers, yeah, they're 34 hours.

Yeah, and usually it's pretty underwhelming. You know, people are not really tying things up. It's not exciting, you know, you think of the end of lost and all the, you know, various finallies that kind of fumbled. on the one yard line. And these guys, man, oh man, that episode 10 killed me. It was just, it just set up the season fourths in such a beautiful way. It was just like, oh, I can't wait. I can't.

And I'm in it. I'm like, you know. That's high praise. It's high praise. I'm telling you, I'm not joking around. I was so happy with it. you know, because it gets to a point, you know, where I'm an actor and I'm going to give my best to whatever project is going to have me and I'm going to try my best. But ultimately, whether they pull it off, that's other people.

And oftentimes you're just in this situation like this, you're on an interview and you're just having to BS your way through it and, you know, because you're really disappointed in what happened or you're just, don't think it lived up to its potential or whatever. But here, I'm just so over the moon, impressed by Graham Yost and all the people he put together. I mean, Graham Yost is, he's an all-timer. Yeah. It is very, by the way, I love when actors do the thing you just did where they talk about, you can tell they genuinely like a project,

and then you see him like a couple months later, and you're like, no, he's talking about this one different. Yeah Yeah, ask me the question again And I'll do the other Okay Hey, how is Silo? Really good

Had a good time I was really I really like Rebecca Ferguson I think she's great I'll tell you this Rebecca Ferguson Really good talk show guest She's lovely

She's the best She's a I mean this I say there was love fucking loon. She is a loon, and that's why I love her. Yeah. We need more loons. We need more loons and more babies.

Lunatics and babies, this is what will populate the future. By the way, this is what your parents did. They were like, you know what, we're a couple of lunatics. Let's have four kids. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? Why not?

You know, who knows what's going to happen? Tim, this has just been delightful talking to you, and we're going to let you go. but first, Josh is going to grill you with our speed round questions. Okay. I'm going to have my last sip of coffee before you speed round. Okay, yeah. Let that caffeine carry you through. Go, Josh.

You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Oh, damn. Well, it depends on where, yeah, I want all three of those. Okay. That's why we put in, you can only pick one. I know. I'm going to go with adventurous.

Okay, what is your favorite means of transportation? Bicycle. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? The trap family. All right, great. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Oh, that's going to wind up costing me in some way. Well, that's just it.

So you've got to balance that out. One member of my family? Aha. My great, great, great, great, great grandfather. Yeah, nobody can burn you for that one. What was his name again? John Robbins. Hard to check.

Hard to fact check. No, it's true. He's got a grave, actually. In Massachusetts. All right. He was in 1640, I think. He landed. Wow.

I want to pick his brain. That was a good brain effect. Yeah, that'd be nice. What is a dream destination for a family vacation? We did it, Bali. Oh, nice. Yeah, my family did it with my kids. Yeah, Susan had a job.

It fell through at the last minute, and it was really how we were going to be spending the summer. And I said, all right, we got to. two months off, let's go someplace. And we did Bali and it was great. Nice. Now you can, you can pick which one of these you want to go with. You're born in West Covina, but you really kind of feel like you're from Greenwich Village. If you had to get more families to come visit, the one of those you consider your hometown, what would you tell them about it? To either West Covina or... Or Greenwich Village. You feel more Greenwich Village to me? Yeah, I am more Greenwich Village. What would I tell a stranger about Greenwich Village?

No, if you wanted to get more families to come visit Greenwich Village. But that's the thing. I wouldn't want them to come. Okay, but you got hired and that's your job. You're like... Okay, I have to do it. Yeah, so it's sort of like if you didn't like a project, but you had to do a series of interviews and press junket.

I'm going to go with... With there's very expensive apartments. Great. In places that used to be rent controlled for like 50 a month now, you can pay $10,000 a month. It's really great. It's really cool. As somebody lives there, it's really cool.

All right. And then Seth has our final questions. All right. Tim, have you been to the Grand Canyon? Yes. Was it worth it? I didn't really spend a lot of time there. That was very clear, by the way you answered the question.

Yeah, I would say, let me answer no. I have not been to the Grand Canyon. Do you want to go? Yes, why not? Okay. That's it I feel like the right way to answer that. There's no real reason why, but like why not is a safer answer because it's such an American treasure. I wanted to drive up to the edge of it,

and apparently you can't do that. Well, yeah, it could collapse. This has been delightful, Tim. Thank you so much for making the time. It's just such a pleasure. Thank you, Seth. Much appreciate you. Thanks, Josh.

Great to meet you. We'll see you soon. You're the best. All right. Bye, bye-bye. All right, bye now. Bye-bye. I'm going to tell you the story about John Robbins,

great great great grandson Tim and his family's travels across the United States of America and some of the adventures they had along the way. Tim Robbins' daddy headed east to check out New York City and fell in love with Greenwich streets all so alive and gritty. He called his wife said pack the kids time for a change of Sina. They made their way across the state. said goodbye West Covina, from the Marchant Band to a change of plans they'd entered the arena. The Robbins tribe had all arrived from the peaceful West Covina. In the heart of Greenwich Village, Tim learned to run and fight. He'd roller skate to hockey, but he'd be back at night.

He might go play some softball or hang out on the roof, and look below at the non-stop. the non-stop show, don't trust uncle yelled by psychos in the heart of Greenwich Village. Put your money in your sock going down the block paints quite the perfect image with a baseball bat and a railroad flat in the heart of Granage Village. In a summer in the 60s they were back out on the road, a family of pros on the TV shows. They sang forever ready, ink is black and pink. his wife selling batteries with harmonies keeping cool in the hotel pool in a summer in the

60s and best of all were festivals motels were standard lodgings and sing along to Seeger songs in the summer with the robins