Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - TIMOTHY OLYPHANT Felt Triggered by Our Podcast

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

Timothy Olyphant confessed a lot of things to Seth & Josh, including what he originally majored in during college, his bright idea for his own podcast, wanting an Emmy, what the memories of his childhood backpacking trips mean to him, and feeling triggered by our very own podcast.Hosted by Seth & Josh Meyers. Theme song written & performed by Jeff Tweedy. Produced by Rabbit Grin Productions

Hey everybody, this is Seth. This is Josh. And this is a disclaimer that some of these episodes of Family Trips were recorded before the Screen Actors Guild Strike took place. So if people are talking about work that they have coming out, we just want you to know that they were not breaking strike rules by doing so. And moving forward, we're going to make sure that doesn't happen with any future guests. Thanks. Hey Pashi. Hi Zufi. Very exciting. I'm going to see you in a week. Yeah. We're going to do our first podcast where we're in the same room together.

And also, I'll see you in a week. And then a few days after that, I'll see you with mom and dad. Yeah. And I'm with mom and dad now. You currently i should note i'm looking at you you were in my childhood bedroom yeah there's some great like art original art from that you made uh yeah there's a bear like holding a glass or a bottle uh you want to you won first prize for that and there's a picture of you and mom's arms uh in the corner of it you look to be maybe five six i should know it yeah there is a it has a ribbon in the frame because i want a ribbon for it it is a he's holding a present a present so it's a real bummer that my one piece of award-winning art you immediately guessed two objects and neither was correct well i mean if you'll forgive me it's it is behind me

right now and i'm not looking right at it and also if i'm distracted by anything i'm distracted by the giant replica time magazine cover uh that you were on when you were uh starting late night yeah starting starting late night i don't know if we can talk about that we can talk about well we can talk about that i was on the cover of time magazine yeah which is still deeply funny to me but that's not the time magazine someone made a piece of art right right and it is framed in your bedroom now it should be noted that i knew that i would never hang up a replica time magazine but i knew that if I gave it to mom and dad, they might want it. But I feel like they burned me because now they put it in my childhood bedroom. So now if anyone ever comes in there, it looks like I did that.

Yeah. And it's also I mean, it's not really you can't really burn someone on this, but it is next to a Peabody award. Yeah. Yeah. Which is a pretty legit award so congratulations congratulations seth i'm in your room and it's really your accomplishments why didn't you do it in your room that's my because they're because they're someone one of the neighbors is cutting down trees um and i thought this would be the quieter room of the two gotcha deforestation is a foot in our home well there's there's just there's a lot of trees so you could cut down a bunch of trees and not notice and i think someone it's not a lorax situation where they're just no okay no we there was a an old lorax situation on our street where

someone was cutting down trees to like to make a nice lawn for their kids or maybe to put a pool in or something like that. And mom took such umbrage to it that I feel like she left a note in their mailbox that said, I'm the Lorax, I speak for the trees. And it was like, stop cutting down trees. But there are so many trees here. Probably ineffective leaving a lorax note because i think everybody knows it's not a real person you know i would say the other lorax situation is i always thought of dr seuss's character he's the one that most

looks like dad yeah i was gonna say that too for sure with that mustache when my kids either see the lorax or a picture of a walrus they tell me it looks like that it's pretty great yeah and his name's larry so he's sort of the lerax it's true the lerax gosh i can't believe we never used that hey uh the lerax did reach out which was very sweet to sort of make a correction of sorts based on the episode we did with our parents. We kind of talked a little smack about the Shabig Inn. Oh yeah. In Shabig, Maine, Lake Shabig. It's an island.

It's an island. It's an island. And he reached out and said, hey, the Boston Globe just wrote an article where they sort of sang the praises of the Shabig Inn. So we just want to get out and say, like, maybe new ownership, maybe the old ownership just came around to having a little self-respect about how they were running their inn. But go check it out. Shabig Inn.

Yeah. Actually, I read the article yesterday. And in the first sentence, it says it's pronounced shabig shabig all right yeah so we always had that wrong and and the reviewer uh we sort of we knocked the bicycles the reviewer says i took one of the bicycles and drove through the lovely downtown quote unquote downtown area so it uh it had all the makings of a great spot it just wasn't in a great place and it's so close to us being able to take credit for it but i feel like based on the timeline of when we did our podcast in the article i think they'd probably already turned the ship around before we started

talking smack about the shabig in should yeah spelled like it sounds i wouldn't say i would say no i would say no as well yeah also yeah i mean in terms of talking smack on a recent pod how we uh busted him for for spilling um on his shirts and when i got home i was sitting around with mom and dad last night and he was like oh so uh hurry what he calls our mother uh apparently we have a problem with spilling stuff. And I was like, we? This isn't a we problem. It's a you problem, Larax.

That is, keep in mind that whenever Josh and I gently rib our parents, they are guaranteed listeners to this pod. They're the only guaranteed listeners week in and week out. So we know we're, we're, it's a great risk to speak ill of them, which is why we do so lovingly.

Um, and I had a couple of buddies come over last night, uh, you know, childhood friends to catch up. And, uh, mom was like,

and we'll let you guys go hang out on the porch. We don't need to hang out. But I was like, no, like you guys are, you're fun. You're cool. Hang out.

And then, uh, we sat on the porch with, uh, suazo and matt coburn and sure enough matt coburn sends me a text and he's like your parents win the coolest parents uh in the world award so i reported that to mom and dad and they were like well yeah so now their heads are ballooned up again they can hang that on the wall next to my Peabody. Yeah. Hey, we also got some feedback from a listener about Colin Jost told a harrowing tale. Oh, yeah. He was on a plane, correct? And then he realized that his fly had been unzipped? Or what happened exactly?

He fell asleep and he was going somewhere. He was somewhere where they speak Portuguese. So Brazil, Portugal, one of those. And he woke up and he has a very limited knowledge of the Portuguese language, but he woke up and his fly was undone. And he was worried that maybe his seatmate on the plane had been doing some funny business. Which seemed, I will say, like a stretch. Like Colin was unfairly blaming his seatmate and just forgot that he had maybe left his fly down when he left the bathroom. But then can you read the text? Because, yeah, we got this.

This was sent to us over Instagram as one of the three portuguese listeners of the pod very unfair we are poor i think there's only three well they also say we're portuguese we all know each other because we're all related i just paused the episode with colin jost i can attest that futa ball refers to the millennial tradition to unzip someone else's pants in a plane we have a different word if it's on a bus train or a sidecar um so i think that what josh and i made sure we did was not do any fact checking on that fact no we could be getting razzed right now but yeah i do think not knowing whether or not that's true or untrue just stay alert if you're ever flying to lisbon yeah or a big city in brazil yeah would you double pants it out of uh out of fear i double underpants it you would double underpants it yeah so they'd think like oh i got him now

and then i'd be like oh you're not even close very excited about today's guest he is one of he's also a parent and i bet that if your buddy matt coburn hung out with him he might think that timothy oliphant was one of the coolest parents in the world and uh yeah we had a great conversation with him yeah he's a he's a great uh he's a great guest he's always been a great conversation with him. Yeah. He's a, he's a great, he's a great guest. He's always been a great guest. I, the only thing that bums me out is we talked to him a few weeks ago and there was just an article, a great article with him in the New York times where he took a very,

very sexy photo in his New York times interview that I would have liked to busted on him for the entire conversation we had. So unfortunately, I saw his like sexy post photo too late to give him shit for it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, although I got to be honest, thank God when we zoomed with him, you weren't in my childhood bedroom because I think he probably never would have let go of that. Yeah, he definitely would have taken a screenshot of me right now and probably held it on his phone. All right, everybody.

Please enjoy our conversation with Tim. But first, please enjoy this very short, very catchy jingle from Jeff Tweedy. With the Myers brothers Family trips With the Myers brothers Here we go What? What? Is this happening?

This is happening for real. Oh, I like that it says my daughter. I'm on my daughter's computer. This is the same room I think I've Zoomed with you before. And the last time, I think your daughter just fully walked into the shot. So it's very fitting that it's her Zoom. She's got her eye on show business. You know that.

This is all by design. Is your daughter Vivian, who's represented on your Zoom box, the one that's in this season of Justified? It is. That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing. I don't have a laptop.

So she's letting me use her laptop and her microphone as well. Now, Timothy, why don't you have a laptop? Is this a choice you made a long time ago? A couple of years ago, I was like, you know, I could just, the iPad's fine. Yeah. Oh, so it's not like you're a big desktop guy no i just yeah i just i realized i just need a a screen to you know read scripts or watch a movie on or something opposite of what you originally thought josh which is a laptop wasn't enough computing power for Timothy. Yeah, processing power. Exactly.

I'm working on, yeah. Are you guys laptop guys? Yeah. Yeah, just writing a lot. So the laptop comes in handy with the writing. I haven't had a tablet in years. And anytime I show my parents something on my laptop, they inevitably get their fingers all over the screen, assuming that it's a touchscreen type of device because they live on iPads.

And then I always got to go clean my screen. When's the last time you picked up a pencil? Are you guys pencil guys? Do you ever write in pen? Because my kids are the age where it's helpful for them to have pencils. And I do pick, every time I pick up a pencil, I think, I should do more with pencils. It's a very, it feels very rewarding to pick up a pencil. I've been doing some work in the garage and bought, I have like a couple grease pencils

that I just bought at Home Depot. And then I had to YouTube, how do you like, how do you operate a grease pencil? Because you have to tear a little piece of wood away. Also, grease pencils is what we call our parents' fingers. After they touch Josh's. Get your grease pencils off my laptop.

So, first of all, real quick, Josh, I get coached every time. And look, this is, I'm just going to say it right now. Timothy's a friend. But I want you with confidence to say how you think you pronounce his last name. How I think? Yeah, Josh, I want you to just run right into it.

Go. Olifant. Olifant? No. I mean, technically, now am I giving the answer yeah you're taking over take over wait but you sounded like you know the answer and i'm still not sure oh yeah oh here we go i thought i might slide this one through ollie font no neither one really well technically it's um elephant elephant yeah yeah it's like elephantant. Oliphant, yeah.

Yeah, it's like elephant, oliphant. Well, I speak a bit of Dutch, and elephant in Dutch is oliphant. So that's just the way, yeah. Yeah, well, then you're given a pass. Listen, unless you're driving by my house, like in high school, and then you don't, all my friends would say oliphant, but if they drive by my house in the in high school, and then you don't, all my friends would say, Oliphant. But if they drive by my house, in the middle of the night, they yell, Oliphant, as they drive by. Because it sounds better to yell it that way. It is a good yeller.

Yeah. And did I ever tell you this? One day, my dad was here visiting, and my son said our last name so my son says uh oliphant and my dad says what did you just say and he said oliphant he goes he looked at me he goes that's not how you pronounce our name i was like dad let him do it how he wants i'm feeling better about the fact that i'm not 100 if your son isn't landing it. No one, I mean, at a certain point, you're like, I don't know how much we're going to fight this. It's a tricky last name. But yeah, Oliphant. I've got a college roommate, Mark Cottrell, and we called him Trella through college.

And then we went to his wedding and they were like, Mark Edward Kittrell. And we were like, Kittrell? And we were like, Kittrell? And we were like, why didn't you ever correct this? He's like, I don't know. I like the entrella. It was sort of like, it was a good nickname. And we never had it right. Yeah.

You reinvent yourself. You reinvent yourself in college. You're allowed to take a new last name. Yeah. All right. Is this the podcast, by the way? Because if it is, I'm a little concerned. We're working our way into, I was just about to lay down the premise.

But look, you're one of America's great bullshit. I don't know if it's bullshit. Like we're shooting the shit. You're a you're a shit shooter. And let me just say, Josh, you know this from seeing on my show. I would say one of the top five living talk show guests right now. Geez, I hope we're rolling. Timothy, what's his name?

I hope this is him. Because let me say, my favorite thing about you, you have no plan when you're a guest on a talk show. You're going to immediately try to get things off track because I think you're most comfortable off road. That is the plan. So you were wrong to start. There is a plan.

Just set a plan and then see if you can get it off track. Yeah. I think one of my favorite things is when I talked to Sarah Jenks Daly, who's more often than not your segment producer. She will tell me, here are the things he's told me he will want to discuss. But I think we both know that is a smokescreen. But we are going to talk about family trips here. And we're going to start at the beginning.

So you grow up in Modesto, California. Yes, I did. And you have two siblings, two brothers. Yes, that's true. And where do you fall? Middle. Okay. I'm going to keep all of my answers short today.

Until we give you a little room to rip. Are the three of you, though, are close in age, you and your brothers? Yeah. Older brother's about three years older than me, or two and a half, I should say, two and a half. And the younger brother's three and a half, where there's a little bigger gap between me and my younger brother. And so what are you, what are the sort of trips you guys go on as kids? Where do your parents take you guys?

They never took us anywhere. Anyway, thanks guys for bringing it up. What's wrong with the backyard? It was a lot of that. Was it a lot of backyarding? I got you a backyard. What else do you want? Right, right.

This is hurtful, guys. Oh, boy. Have you considered that you were going to invite people on the show who's never, they just didn't have trips? We were hopeful that those people would say, oh, it's probably not the podcast for me. And then we forgot there were mischief makers like yourself who would jump at the opportunity. I just want you to know, and I wanted to come on to talk about this,

is they said, Seth and Josh are doing a podcast. I said, that's wonderful. I'm in. And they said, it's about family trips. And I said, I'm feeling triggered. Okay. But you had made a commitment in the first part of the sentence. But I already said I was in.

Yeah. Huh. Tough. We did go. I thought about this. This morning, I swam this morning. And as I was swimming, because swimming gives you the swimming affords you the time to think about such things. Right.

It occurred to me, we never really went on trips to Europe and stuff. What we did was we did backpacking. We stayed in the state. I was raised in California. And we did a lot of backpacking trips. Those are the ones that are the most memorable that popped to mind. Well, I'm very jealous of that. I think that those are a great, I would imagine those are very good bonding trips with a family of five.

Not with my father. So he'd hike way ahead. It was it was basically like he would take off and you'd have to catch him. Because you imagine those trips to be great because you're into blisters. Yeah. I mean, as an adult, I've gone hiking. But I guess as a kid, how so how old are you when you're going on hikes? Josh is a very active hiker now. I'm going to let you know.

So if you're making this up, he's going to see holes in your story right away on hiking facts. I have a poster-sized photograph. It's like on the way to our basement of me like on one of our camping trips where like I'm laying out on a rock. I got like a Jan Sport t-shirt on. And I got – I'm holding a one of those uh camping cups like it's a it's a metal cup that has the little hook that handles like a hook because it goes on your backpack yeah yeah and let's get real hot exactly put a hot beverage in there it's a real burn yourself but we did that whole thing yeah we brushed you know we brush your teeth down at the stream, bathing in the stream.

Would you do overnight, like through hikes where you're carrying your tent and like setting it up when you get to somewhere? Yeah, the whole deal. I remember the whole prep of going down. So we grew up in Modesto. And we had a place, Royal Robins. Royal Robins was a guy. Are you familiar with the word? It's a clothing company.

Robins, Royal Robins. No, I've never heard of Royal Robins. Take a minute and Google it. How about you keep talking? I'll Google while you tell. Yeah, it is weird for you just to look at us. But he was one of the first guys to scale Half Dome in Yosemite. A local guy.

And he started this. I remember going down to his. We'd go down there. I'm on Royal Robins. This is a website you clearly set up today. This is a fake one. No, I'm just joking. It is.

It's Royal Robins. It's a very nice outdoorsy close. Outdoorsy close. So that was a real guy, though. There's a guy named Royal, which, by the way, it's a great name. It's great. Could you imagine being named Royal Myers? Yeah, it could be a blessing or a curse.

Well, sure. A lot of people are not going to like you from the jump when you're named Royal. But they're going to remember. You know when they're really not going to like you is when they try to call you Roy and you correct them. You're like, it's not Roy. It's Royal. Yo, Roy, it's Royal.

All right, so Royal Robins. All day. Sorry, okay. Were you bored with this already? Listen. Really? I would say it was very memorable going there and gearing up getting the backpack getting the boots getting the those meals those dehydrated dehydrated ice cream

that was really exciting a lot of the powdered soups and all that stuff i love that stuff beef stroganoff like we felt like we were getting ready to go to the moon. Yeah. I feel like beef stroganoff might only exist now as a dehydrated camping food. Almost never see it on a menu at a restaurant. Yeah. Oh, no. Well, now it's become a thing.

I mean, you can go to Spago's and get the dehydrated beef stroganoff. That's a whole thing. Spago's. Yeah. Jose Andres. That's what he does. He comes over. He what he does sure he dehydrates oh he puts the water in himself yeah it's a big show big presentation people film it put it on tiktok yeah there's a parenthetical after his documentary we feed people and it's beef stroganoff yeah did you were your parents outdoorsy were they in general the kind of people who like to do that kind of thing?

My dad's a bit of a cowboy. Yeah. He's a bit of an explorer. He grew up in Manhattan, like on Park Avenue. But from his childhood, just wanted to head west and wanted to be outdoors, adventure. We were following his lead when we would all head to the mountains with our backpacks and hike up into the hills and pitch tents. Did your mom like it or was she just sort of dutifully going along with it? I think everyone had a good time. I look back at those experiences fondly. I mean,

there were definitely days where we were hiking where we're like, it's hot, it's uphill, I mean, there were definitely days where we were hiking where we're like, it's hot, it's uphill, we're tired, we're bickering and tired. But then once you get to setting up tents and you're at the stream and you're out there, I look back at them pretty fondly. Three boys in a tent, two adults in the other? How was the tent breakup? That sounds right. I think it was two tents, yeah. Yeah, I think my older brother was like like i want my own tent this year that kind of thing i don't remember i don't remember

that being a thing but i imagine at some point it does we did a lot of like i want to say pine crests up near like tahoe around that area that nor cow mountains but i do we like hiked mono lake and so i remember that one oh yeah that's just on the other side of yosemite there yeah yeah over by mammoth i want to say yeah going up there and there's some old crater up there i remember getting altitude sickness good times yeah yeah so now your kids obviously have a massively different upbringing than you did did you Did you ever do a trip like the kind you did with your parents? Do you ever take your kids hiking? Well, Seth, I'm in show business.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we have people that take the kids backpacking. Of course. And they're wonderful. And do they look like you? Is it important to get actors, like sort of hiking actors who look like you? No, no. Retired Sherpas.

Retired Sherpas that have come out to California just to, I think they came out here originally to consult on a film. I see. And then they fall in love with it. They don't want to go back. I said, you should stick around. I got kids and, you know what I mean? You could take them on trips.

And I think they now just mostly take celebrity kids on backpacking trips. And I think for them, they get to LA they're said the swimming's so much better than in nepal which brings me to my other podcast no i don't want to hear about it celebrity kids on trips without what do you do so your kids are very close in age right right? It's like two, two, two? Yeah, we were on a program. They're all two years apart and born within birthdays within just a few weeks of each other. Wow, so a real program. It was a real program. Yeah.

In September, I was like, honey, stay away from me. I think I could do it from here. You know what I mean? Like it was a very fertile time. Our first two are the same time of year. And you realize that is better. Because now our daughter is like a six-month gap. And just on the calendar.

And I feel like then she's either going to be three years away from them in school, or which is maybe a little too soon, or four years away where she'll be a little too advanced. And I'm like, we should have just had them all on the same calendar. Wait, so what are we talking about now? Two years apart for the boys and then three and a half to the girl. It's the half. Are they going to be in high school together?

No, I don't think so. There's not going to be like a freshman and a senior? Yeah, the boys will be together. And then I think there'll be a freshman and senior with the middle and the last. That's a win. My younger brother was not a... When he entered high school, I had left. Gotcha.

And I feel like it would have been nice if just that little bit closer would have been better if he was a freshman when I was a senior. Josh and I overlapped for two years in high school, and then we went to college together. So we had two years in high school, two years in college. So we did a ton together. We did school talent shows together. It was a blast. I think you're right. You were both college athletes?

Yes. We were the treading water. Did you guys have a treading water team? Yeah. I could tread water for 15, 16 minutes. We just had a club program. I see. Yeah. We didn't have a – I can't remember. We just had a club program. I see. I can't remember.

I think it was Title IX. They got rid of treading water because of Title IX. There was just too many guys on the football team. Now that I think of it, I think that's what the dean, it was a term the dean would use with me about my academic progress. He would scream that I was treading water. You were an excellent swimmer. You're still swimming, but this is a true thing about you, right? I swam growing up, yeah.

Competitively. I swam competitive swimming. I was solid. I'm going to say I was solid. You swam your way into college? Is that accurate? I swam in college. Okay, so I have a question about the swimmer life. It strikes me from the outside as the worst of the sports to be good at, based on the time of day that you have to do your swimming. Well, I don't want to give too much away, because as you know, my brother and I are starting a podcast called The Swimmer Life.

Josh and I would love to be on. we don't have any stories about swimming we're having celebrities on and they're just gonna talk about swimming right but only as brothers you only because it's you and your brother it's only brothers talking about swimming who is more buoyant? Celebrities talking about swimming. And how much they swam growing up. Just stories about them swimming. What strokes they prefer. Things like that.

You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Just how they were around the pool. What they remember. It's called Stroking Off with the Oliphants. Alternate title. Good. We were going to go with Swimmer's Life. But I like Stroking Off with the Oliphants. Alternate title. Good. We were going to go

with Swimmer's Life, but I like Stroking Off with the Oliphants. Swimmer's Ear might be a good name for a podcast about swimming. Yeah, but go back to Stroking Off

because I feel like Stroking Off with the Oliphants is going to, the merch alone, even if the podcast fails. Even if it fails, right. You want that. You want that t-shirt. You want that. You want that t-shirt, right?

You want that. I would think. I don't know. That might be a t-shirt that's uncomfortable to wear around. Were you the, of the three boys, were you all swimmers or were you the swimmers? Well, so we grew up next to, literally next door to the Modesto Swim and Racquet Club. And so, which by the way, I have fully grown kids now, but when I, at some point as my kids were in their, you know, whatever,

10, 8 and whatever, I realized how good my parents had it. Because the next door was like, just go next door. And they have lifeguards over there. They basically have babysitting so we just we just spent all our time over there and my older brother took to tennis and i uh took to swimming and i imagine to some degree that's just sort of how we got along but you're like you'll be over there i'll be over here and um but we did we all did both at a certain point when we were you know we all did both at a certain point

when we were you know we all and my younger brother kind of did a little bit of everything ended up playing he played water polo in college my older brother played tennis in college my younger brother played water polo in college i mean that's another way your parents really had it well because it seems like maybe you guys got a little bit of scholarship the scholarship money for for the sports you guys were doing i'm going to admit something to uh and uh i'm a little bit of scholarship. Was scholarship money for the sports you guys were doing? I'm going to admit something to you. And I'm a little hesitant to. I turned down scholarships at a bunch of colleges and went to USC with no scholarship.

Wow. Because you had your heart set on USC? Because I just wanted, yeah, I really did. I wanted to go to USC. I wanted to, I would get offered like full rides at sort of mid-size D1 schools. Okay. And I grew up in such a small town.

I really had my heart set on like, you know, I want to go swim at a program that's going to compete for a national title. I don't want to swim at a program where we're going to be outside of that group, you know, sort of that mid-level. I was very fortunate that I had like grandparents that put money aside towards my college education and I just blew it off. Wow. So you didn't go to USC because it was sort of a showbiz adjacent school. You went there because it was a good swimming

school and you wanted to compete. It's a little bit of like what I thought at the time and what I think back and understand now, which is one, at the time, I remember thinking, oh, I want to swim D1 college and I really want to see how I can do at a very elite, elite program. And LA had a lot of appeal. The other schools like, I don't know, Texas or even Cal. Cal actually might have offered me a little something but i didn't want to stay in northern california so usc we had one of the best recruiting classes in the country there was no money there and i said fucking i'm still coming um you know that they were i was on i was brought out on recruit trips and all that stuff they just there was no money and i just had my heart set i'm I'm like, I'm going to LA and I'm going to,

I'm going to go there. And I'm, and I loved the whole thing. Looking back, I definitely think in the back of my mind, showbiz was in the back of my mind. How did your parents feel about the choice of you sort of foregoing scholarship money? In both the best and worst way. They were like, yeah, go for it. You know, you'll go there and you'll, you know what I mean? Like, and I mean, I have no regrets about it, but it's hilarious that I think I could have graduated college and had a just nice chunk of change to put towards whatever I wanted to do.

Yeah. I also think there was a part of me that just wanted to get rid of it all so that I could just start, so I could just literally, you know, like where you kind of just want, like, I don't want any of that. Because cut to four years, five years later, I'm in New York, broke, waiting tables, studying to be an actor. Trying to get one of those good swimming jobs in New York? But I do remember thinking when I was broke in New York,

bartending and taking acting classes and married, that I was like, how great is this? This is nothing like my childhood. This is like a fantasy. Like I'm doing it. All right, I want to get to New York real quick, but I also want to ask a genuine curiosity. Were you, did you have the goods?

Like you went to this great swimming school with a great recruiting class. Did you measure up? Because I would assume for some athletes, you get to a school and you're an elite level and then you find out, oh. I was good in Modesto. Yeah.

Oh, he's Modesto fast. I was a solid college swimmer. I was not, I was definitely unreal. I definitely did not reach my potential. I definitely didn't do great. I had like, my freshman year, I had an amazing year. Just missed the NCAA cuts. I went to nationals and finaled at nationals.

I had a good year. And then it was all downhill from there you were married young your wife you met in college or right after no we met in college we met you yeah we met we were we met when we were 20 that's amazing and she was like i can't believe you're here blowing all your money you're my guy she heard she had heard you would receive some money from your grandparents and she assumed you were getting a scholarship because of swimming it was must have been so jarring i can't believe i'm giving i should no one's gonna listen to this right no i don't think so no one's gonna listen this far and you haven't talked about a single trip you've taken you have been if nothing

disdainful wait a a minute. Hold on. Josh thinks people are going to tune in to listen to trips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have trip fans. They're like, I thought this was about trips. Honey, there's this new podcast, Family Trips.

They don't talk about trips at all. I thought you were calling me honey now like oh honey sorry fans fans of the podcast you called josh honey because i know i know this you guys met young but then you put you had a nice cushion where it was just the two of you before you had kids yeah thank so there was some uh there was some seed of wisdom we met young we got met met at 20 we were married by 22 i just turned 23 but we did not have kids till i don't know we had good six years stretch or so with before seven years before because thank god i was scared to death and knew to express that you were obviously obviously an actor meeting some success, but were you a couple before you had kids

that took advantage of not having kids and traveled a lot? Not only did she meet me in college when I said, hey, you're blowing all your grandparents money. This is great. I then, after we got married, said, hey, I'm thinking about acting. Wait, what did she think you were gonna do see and this is a good question because she's like wait what you never mentioned that you know as if maybe she wouldn't have married me if i had i had but i was a fine art major so what i've been talking

about prior to that was painting and ceramic sculpture right and then i said, you know, I told her if the acting didn't work out, I had the ceramic sculpture to fall back on. It's the one, it might be the one job, a ceramist might be the one job where you're like, I might try acting for the stability. You just feel like there might be a little bit more. Exactly. Let's just go for the, let's go for the big money. And if it doesn't work out, we come back to the pencil drawing, ceramic sculpture. So yeah, so we got married. And then, speaking of trips, assholes, if you got to talk about trips, we drove across the country in a rider truck to move to New York to study acting so I could pursue

acting. And based on a hunch, I'd taken an acting 101 class because I needed some electives. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to take this acting 101 class. I could take anything. And I've always thought about acting. And so I took the class, and I'm like, this is so fun. What if I just did this instead? And she said, just pick something and do that. Just pick one thing. Because I was like, I always wanted to start a band. She's like, you have no musical ability.

And I was like, neither do some of my favorite bands. You know what I mean? I was like, I just. of my favorite bands you know i mean i was like what i like to imagine is that everything you're telling us you put in the vows at your wedding this was she it feels like she found out everything about you when it was way too late there's some truth to that so we we're living down at Beach, and I was coaching swimming and still swimming at that time. She was, at one point, she was teaching at like a Montessori school. And at one point, she was working at a pier. Anyway, and we decided we would drive across the country.

We'd move to New York, and I could pursue acting. New York, she wasn't sure what she wanted to do and um she was thinking about art therapy and I'm like well you can do all of it in New York we're gonna move in with her dad her dad had a brownstone and so imagine that guy he's like this guy married my daughter he's decided he wants to be an actor and they're moving in he sold his kiln put it in the back of the truck we're bringing the kiln with us but also i like that he also knew you were coming to new york to act but you were leaving hollywood so it's not that he must have just every box was was being ticked incorrectly.

Why would you do that? Like you were so close to L.A. What made you think that that is was this a different time? No. OK, so but you guys will I'll be curious what you think. So I not really. But, you know, I want you to guys feel like you're part of this. That means the world to us. Well, you know, I took a class and I had no experience. I'd not done a school play. I just, you know, I'd met a few acting students, but I started asking people, anyone I could get my hands on about starting here in LA versus starting in New York. And at that time, this was just like 10 years ago,

because I'm only 35 now. Some people said, oh, you should stay in LA. That's where the work is. And other people would say, oh, you should go to New York, because that's where the best actors are coming from. That's a good place to study, and they have the theater and and a robust i mean it does feel like that time was a robust independent movie scene it does feel like a lot more was coming out of new york at that time first of all there's also that part of me because i was a california kid it was a thrill to live in new york i liked being a bartender acting student in new york going to off-Broadway plays, being a part of this sort of acting community. It was like, this is a fantasy, this whole idea. This is hilarious. But I do feel like it's the wonderful thing about New York, and I think this still

holds true, but maybe not so much now because there's no working class people for to live in Manhattan anymore. But if you went and played pickup ball at the YMCA, there was like, oh yeah, Ethan Hawke might be part of that, might be there. But then everyone else, that guy's a cop and this guy works at Bloomingdale's and that guy's a journalist. And when I come out to LA and I play pickup basketball, everybody was in show business. And I do think there was something wonderful about starting out in a town where most people did not give a shit about what we were doing, about show business. Who can hoop better, you or Ethan Hawke? Back then.

Well, even now, I think. It's just... you or Ethan Hawke back then? Well, even now, I think. It's just... You know, I guess with you guys, it rarely does the position of who's better flip 20 years down the line. I'm not even going to answer that question. I'm just going to allow everyone to assume what that meant. And they don't know.

By the way, though, wonderful actor. Wonderful. I'm a big admirer of Ethan Hawke and just the whole way he's lived, a lot of the things he's done, with the exception of those couple other things. I agree with you on all that. Again, you know what I mean about all that. But hey, back to the trip. So my wife and I- Oh, good.

Thank you. Look at him. Look at him. Oh, this is the new Tim. Someone's got to do this. Lead us down this trail. This is an audition for a third host, right? Yeah, of course. Ryder Chuck. Any great brother duo should have one person who's not a brother. That's like, right?

Yeah, of course. Right? Every brother band. Yeah, the Everly brothers had that guy, Keith. Right. Keith. Everyone knows Keith. Yeah, right? Yeah, of course. Right? Every brother band. Yeah, the Everly brothers had that guy Keith. Right, Keith. Everyone knows Keith. Yeah, right. He came up with somebody. He had the best pot.

He had the good people. See, I could be that guy. So we decide we're going to drive across the country. And to save money, we decide we'll get a rider truck a little bigger than we need because we can put our futon in the back of the truck and we'll just sleep back there yeah and our first stop so we've like pulled into those koa campgrounds and so we we make it to the grand canyon and it's so beautiful and it was just this gorgeous day and then we we go back to the campground, and we get back into our rider truck,

and you climb in the back, and we have the futon laid out. We have these two cats that are traveling with us. Did you know them, or did you just pick them up on the way? They were like, hey, we're going to New York. I mean, if I saw a cat with its paw out on the side of the highway,

extending its arm. You would stop. You would stop. Even if I was deathly allergic its paw out on the side of the highway, extending its arm. You would stop. You would stop. Even if I was deathly allergic to cats, I would stop. Right? People still do that. I mean, they still do that today. I will say this.

They do it so much that you've got to look out. And a lot of sort of highway stranglers will now dress like cats, knowing that it will increase the likelihood that they're going to get in the car and have free have a free pass to the old neck see seth i did not know that yeah and it gives me shivers it gives me shivers to think what could have happened yes so okay so you got two cats a futon and we get in the back and it's like you know it's a little chilly and so i'm like don't worry about it take my i got a knit cap and and you can take the take this blanket and then we got the comforter and then you can have my scarf at like three four in the

morning i'm like give me my fucking hat back i had no idea it gets that cold at the Grand Canyon. Yeah. It was ridiculous. I took everything back. It was like, this marriage is not going to work. We're going to need counseling. I was like, I gave everything. I was like, give everything back to me. It just exposed how self, I mean, I was like,

I really could be an actor. I'm so self. Put these two cats in your sweater for warmth. Yeah, like a three dog night. This is a two cat cold. It's two cat cold. Tim, I've always said that the way you know a guy's not a catch is if after college, he's still trying to get a girl to sleep on a futon.

What you've done is so much worse. I mean, a futon in the back of a truck the back of a truck i mean this is the i think this is a love that must bloom a thousand years because it seems like she has put up in the early days the amount she was i mean she did she looked she bet on the right horse obviously we know now with hindsight you were on your way to success riding that rider truck across the country, but a lot of red flags that she had to ignore. I see what you mean now, now that you put it in that perspective.

You know what I mean? I see it now. Listen, I think it's somewhere between she just didn't know better or she had real insight. I don't know. It just could be, you know what I mean? It's a fine line. Hey, we're going to take a quick break

and hear from some of our sponsors. Did you continue when you cross country? Did you continue with the sleeping in the back of the rider truck? No, we started checking it. We started checking into motels. Yeah. We were checking into motels.

Yeah. And those like Howard Johnson's or like, what do you, just anything off the highway or? No, just those little motels, like in tiny little towns. We fell in love with tiny. Have you driven across the country? I have. Yeah. And are you a fan? I am. Yeah. It's one of my favorite things. You know, we just did it again last year, only this time in a Tesla. Probably had to keep stopping to charge it.

Tesla. Probably had to keep stopping to charge it. By the way, it just maps the whole trip for you. It's awesome. Yeah. And you just sleep and it just drives for you, right? We did the self-drive. Yeah. Great. Yeah. Just sit in the back seat or in the front? No, I always sat up front. Looked like I was paying attention. We found found these like we pulled into like hot springs south dakota i remember and just was like this place is great and we stayed there for a couple days so you were not you were not like breakneck speed to new york you guys enjoyed the that's great no it's the best way to go drive across the country i mean you guys were the perfect age in that there's no one you're responsible for no one. You clearly had nowhere to be professionally. It wasn't like anybody was waiting for you in New York.

I had classes set to begin in a couple of weeks, as long as I got there for the first day of class. No casting agent was saying like, where's that kid that took acting 101? Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. I was on my way at stars in my but it was wonderful and we just did it again and now we're on the other whole flip the kids are all left the house so i had a job in new orleans last year daisy jones and the six it's daisy jones and Six. You were wonderful in it.

Thank you. I'm still hoping for the Emmy nom. It's a shame. This is, yeah. This is post. This will not land in the nominating window. It didn't happen. I should have done a scene where I just cried.

I just cried. But a lot of times the directors, if it wasn't written that way, they will tell you, stop crying. I know, but I can't tell you how many jobs I've done where I start crying in the middle of the scene. And the director's like, what are you doing? He goes, only fan. What are you doing?

I said, it's all of it. He says, all offense. I said, yeah, all of it. He says, okay, same question. What are you doing? All of it. And I said, I'm trying to win us some hardware here. And he says, because he's like, the scene doesn't call for crying.

And I was like, dude, big picture. You know what I mean? If you start crying during this, you might very well win a potty. Yeah. Or at least be nominated for one. But find a good sort of organic place to start crying during the pod. Can we go back and talk about how my family never took us on trips? Yeah, let's go, please.

Can we circle back? Yeah. Because I could bring it, I should have, I could have brought it right there. I could have brought the fireworks right there. And then people are like, honey, it's not about trips, but this is incredible. Yeah. He took an emotional trip. Exactly. And you can take it with him.

That's the thing about podcasts. You did mention this was New Orleans. Did you guys drive to New Orleans? Yeah, so that's where this started, isn't it? So now, because the kids have moved out, first of all, I take jobs in other places more often, right? Because I'm like, I just say, honey, you want to go live in New Orleans for a little while? All right, let's take it. And then we drive there as opposed to, yeah. And we just do the thing. We leave a week ahead of time, just drive across the country. We drove,

last year I had this very fortunate deal where I went from Daisy Jones in New Orleans to shooting the Justified deal up in Chicago and then coming across to New York for the Soderbergh thing. These are, I mean, you've got a couple on their way. I'm very excited about it. We drove, we drove each one. We drove to New Orleans. We lived there for a few months. We drove up to Chicago and then we made our way to New York and then we got to New York and it was December. and we said, fuck this. Somebody shipped that car home. We're going to get on American Airlines. And we flew back.

You mentioned that you get to travel more for work because your kids are out of the house. That was something you always considered as a dad and a parent, just trying to stay as close as possible? trying to stay as close as possible? Quite frankly, when the kids got to a certain age, you started to feel the stress of being apart. And as soon as we felt that, and it comes pretty quickly. I remember my son being, I feel like he was in first or second grade and I was doing a job in Eastern Europe. And it was taxing.

I think it was hard on everybody. Yeah. You know, when you're away, kids will, no matter why you're away, the fact is they're going to make up a narrative in their head of why you're really away. And so it's just pretty tough. So at a certain point I realized it's a pretty small window where you can take kids to guitar lessons and tennis matches and do Kung Fu together.

You double clutched on the K and I was really worried it was going to be cocaine. So Kung Fu. Well, I don't celebrate you and your kids. I'm talking about when they're young. When they get older, it changes. Listen, if you do your job right seth you're going to find this out because if you really spend the quality time with them now then when they're like late teens early 20s you can partake the two of you together like you guys could just get shit-faced drunk together and it's cool because they have a foundation. That's nice. So, you know what I mean?

Your wife can be like, oh, Seth and the kids came home last night. I don't know who was more fucked up. And you're like, it's all right, honey, because we put in that quality time. Those kung fu hours. He did. Yeah, all those kung fu things, all that kung fu practice together when you got your yellow belts. Now, this is family- things, all that kung fu practice together. When you got your yellow belts. Now, this is family related, not trip related, although I guess she was in Chicago as well.

Your daughter. Also, I guess a bit like you, came to acting fairly late, correct? Did not take this path in college? No, she did not. She's never done it before. But she had done school plays. Okay, great. So she had a leg up on me.

Right, she had one more. And then in this new season of Justified, she's playing Raelynn Given's daughter, correct? That's right. What was it like? What was it like acting with your daughter as her character's father? It seems like there's a lot to unpack. It was a very tricky situation. It was amazing. I mean, quite frankly, it was a wonderful experience. I mean,

where do you want to start? I mean, it was everything from just very special working with her. She did an amazing job. She worked super hard. She was fun to work with. She just kind of had a gut for it. I would tell her, I was like, you already have any kind of actor wants. It's one you like to work on it. You really work hard at it. And you just have a feel for it.

And most actors have only maybe one of those qualities. It was hilarious because she's never going to stop being my kid. So she would say things to me that I would say that I would reply to her that you can't talk to me that way. to her that you can't talk to me that way. I'm the star and executive producer. Have you not noticed everyone else sort of tiptoeing, only telling me what I want to hear? Have you not noticed that's the way we play the game? You work really hard to get to this place where nobody calls you on your bullshit. So that was kind of amazing where you know i would you know approach her in between a take to say like there's i think if we and she's like dad stop i'm like you can't you can't just say to me no stop you know and then on the flip

it really was fascinating because there is a side of me I'm guilty of always feeling like, you know, I'm somewhat obsessively driving to try to make a scene better. Like I am guilty as much as I pretend I'm not. I am very guilty of like, I feel like this could get better. I feel like there's something funnier here, or there's a moment here that we're missing or there's some, something where we could take it, you know, and you try to then make it look like it's all effortless. But I do, I am guilty of being somewhat driven and. Shame on you.

Thank you. But that's my kid and you you are having to make choices sometimes of when to say okay i just have to be her father here because that's a kid on her first job yeah yeah who's who's in a very overwhelming situation with a lot of stress. And she's never done this before. And so, but it was so hard on me is my point, right? Because I didn't want to be that guy, but we needed something more for the scene.

You're the, if anyone's the victim here, I think everybody agrees. That's my point. That is my point. But it was amazing. It was quite a crazy experience. Also, by the here, I think everybody agrees. That's my point. That is my point. But it was amazing. It was quite a crazy experience. Also, by the way, I'll say, if you are ever wondering whether you behave well on a set or at work, just bring your kids to work with you and have them next to you all day. Yeah.

Because they will. You see it immediately. You see the, I mean, it's, I'm embarrassed to say there was, there was some moments where I was like, wow, she just was like, dad, you cannot do that. That's amazing. It's sort of amazing. like we'll be guests my parents and myself on seth's show every now and again and i feel like it's fun for the staff uh to sort of see to have us there and we'll just be able to like roll our eyes at seth sometimes and it sort of like lets everyone be like oh like we he's the name on the door so we're not gonna like call him on his stuff but we'll just be there like, Oh boy, Seth's really, really blowing a gasket.

Yes. I mean, I tend to get a little, a little more stressed out when my family or my guests. And it's, it's what I'm talking about, right? Yes.

Well, it's, it is. I mean, I definitely, it is fun. I'm glad that my family can immediately poke fun at me for my behavior. And it is behavior that my entire staff has also noticed and not mentioned out loud in the same way.

I did have a very, talking about your daughter following in your footsteps, my son said the sweetest thing the other day. He said, when you die, do I get to host your show? Oh, that was really sweet. What do you want to hear from your kids? get to host your show oh that was really sweet what you want to hear from your kids do you have a favorite trip you've taken your uh kids on galapagos really look at you guys oh yeah we did the galapagos very very lucky have you been no no is that a week is that a whole week's situation or do you have to go longer? We, I want to say did 10 days,

but honestly a week would have been fine. Like a six, nine, you know, but five, I would, I would squeeze it for all it's worth. Were the kids little when you went? I want to say we went like 10 years ago, but I'm really bad at that. I feel like I'd have to, I can show you pictures and you can tell me how old they seem to look. Yeah. I think Vivian was around 10, 12, 12, yeah. And then you stay just on like one of the islands, right?

And then you go visit the other ones? No, we were on a boat the whole time. Oh, okay. Yeah, which I recommend. You can go and stay. There's like two islands where you can stay on. A lot of the islands are uninhabited. But you can do that where you go to an

island and take little day trips and you know that's the best you can do i'd still say go do it it's a remarkable trip because um a it's just gorgeous and b island to island completely different worlds shockingly different worlds so we stayed on a boat and you, the beauty of that is you, you start on an island and then you, at night you travel at night. And so when you wake up, you're waking up at another island and each island is so vastly different with completely different, different animals that inhabit the islands, island to island, there's like desert islands where they're, you know, and then there's islands just filled with birds and, know it's just remarkable and and you know you've learned about them but because they're so isolated there are creatures on those islands that only live on that

island they can't get to anywhere else in the world and so they've they are not like any other creature anywhere else in the world they have have crazy ways to survive, you know? Was that a trip, when you took that trip, were your kids excited about it? I always worry about teenagers being a little over or not fully embracing how special something is. Did you have the right kind of kids for that trip? We did. We took our kids. But you made it clear in the run-up that you were not married to that.

There were a lot of other kids in the running. We just said to them, no, this is a parenting tip. I know this show is not about parenting tips. So, you know, take it or leave it. It's a bonus or, you know, I've wasted your time. I apologize. What we did is we said, we're going to go on this trip. And depending on how it goes, there'll be others, right?

And otherwise, we will take other kids on trips. You know what I mean? So they were on their best behavior because they had a sense of this is costly. And no, they really, the whole thing was a huge success. With the exception of maybe one or two trips with ridiculous amounts of, what do we call that? The waves. Oh, like seasickness? Oh my God.

We had one night that it was a joke. Yeah. It was a joke. The captain said, tonight tonight's gonna be bad yeah strap you know like when you go to sleep at night you put on a seat belt yeah that's true yeah you you put a you belt in to go to bed my wife was throwing up uh in the middle of the night and i was so she's you know because we're rocking we're laughing it's so ridiculous and throwing up and kind of laughing at the absurdity of it all

and i remember saying uh with true concern you know don't chip a tooth i remember i was just i was like keep your distance from from the toilet because i don't want to see you chip a tooth that's the not the selling point of the trip. But no, our kids had a blast. I mean, every day you're on an island, you're swimming sea lions. Every morning, you're just swimming with sea lions. Wow. And the sea lions, they're like puppies.

They're like, it's literally, you can play fetch with them. Wow. Did your kids in general travel well together? Did the three of them get along? Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah, no, our kids are, you know, now that they're all older, and we all go drinking together. You realize that they're, they're pretty tight. They're, they've got a, I don't know, we just got lucky. They're all very, you know, like everybody said, they're completely different. I mean, they couldn't be more We just got lucky. They're all very, you know, like everybody said, they're completely different. I mean, they couldn't be more different from one another.

We probably, probably helps girl, boy, girl. Our son is in the middle and he is, you know, I'm sure it's a product of where he is and their personalities. But he's just like, yeah, real easy going, kind of just, you know what I mean? Just kind of glues it together real nice. But they really lean on each other. It's pretty cool. Like Vivian's got this, she's releasing music. You know, she's a singer-songwriter before she was an actress.

Kind of makes me throw up a little bit when I say it out loud. But Hank, who just graduated from art school, he's doing her album art. I mean, it's pretty cool. That's pretty amazing. And our oldest is in fashion. And now every time they're like, you know, when I go out to do press, they're like, you need a stylist?

I say, yeah, I've got one. Send the check. Her first name, name grace last name oliphant and so wait will will vivian will the younger uh let grace be her stylist she already is oh wow grace grace is her older sister styles her on everything she's done to go out and promote the show that's a level of trust right there i, I think. Right? Yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool. We have, Josh has some questions for you.

But I do, real quick, since you, will you, as quickly as you can, because this is a very unfair question. I feel like you said that knowing that I can't do that. Yeah, that's true.

Take as much time as you want. You were in a film called A Perfect Getaway. I enjoyed. Will you tell that like it was a trip that actually happened to you? Because that's a vacation movie, right? Yeah. No, it is a vacation movie.

And we thought we were going to have a ball. And first of all, it was me with this beautiful young woman who was not my wife. And I was like, oh, this is an interesting trip right off the bat. Because I don't know how this got greenlit, but it's just me and Keely Sanchez. And I was like, great. I'd be happy to go to Hawaii with her. Now, slight downside, they sent us to Puerto Rico and they said it's just like Hawaii. Okay. And don't worry about the fact there's no mountains there. We'll put those in later.

Right. It's like when a movie is shot in Vancouver for New York, and there's a ton of mountains, which New York doesn't have. Listen, you're talking to a guy who did a show about Deadwood, South Dakota, and I shot it up in Newhall. Very close. Just outside of Santa Clarita. So it's crazy what they can do with the movies and the special effects. But that was the one downside to the trip. Although Puerto Rico was cool. But I show up there and I run into Zahn and I'm a big fan of his. He's a fun dude. And, um, and he's with Mila Jovovich. Yeah. And I was, I was like, Oh, you know, fifth element. Sure. I was thought she'd be wearing those outfits.

Right. Which is weird because you had been in show business and you should have known that an actor wouldn't necessarily be dressed the same in all her films. Exactly. Well, but I was just, i felt like i was still just getting going you know i mean i feel like you're a good 10 plus years in maybe 15 but that's but i was a slow learner it was a slow burn the whole thing if you look at my pull up the imdb page it took me a while yeah i just i just didn't get it for a long time um but they kept hiring me there you go and uh it was like cheers you know they just they just are seinfeld they just kept it on you know i mean and eventually they just kept it on they don't do that anymore you're the you're the seinfeld

of leaning men they just kept it on they gave you a six episode order in the beginning and the next thing you're like you're an institution. Yeah, they were like, he was good in that one thing. And then you're like, well, what about these other two? You're like, don't worry about those. And then he's like, good in that other one. And then give him another shot. Just kept, you know what I mean?

Back to the trip. Yeah. So we go to Puerto Rico, but pretend we're in Hawaii. And we're on this wonderful, long, it's a couple day journey on this trail to this beautiful beach where there's a waterfall. And people are dying. People are being murdered along the trail in paradise. Which just ruins a trip. It did, but made it exciting as well.

Okay, gotcha. Yeah. And weren't there police reports that the murders were a couple? Yeah. And see, and me and Kylie are a couple. Right. And then Steve and Mila, they're a couple. And then there's another couple played by Chris Hemsworth.

Get out of town. Yeah, Chris Hemsworth is there. 2009 Chris Hemsworth. I think of town. Yeah, Chris Hemsworth is there. 2009 Chris Hemsworth. I think it's his first gig. Wow. Yeah, some studly dude from Australia shows up. Gets a little of that elephant stardust on him. I mean, a lot of people like to give me credit for that career,

but I don't feel comfortable taking it. You know what I mean? We'll give it to you anyway. Okay. So there was murders. Murders on the trail. Yeah, do you want me to keep going with the trip? Well, I mean I think that's enough. I think the perfect,

it's called The Perfect Getaway, 2009. We do like to try to draw attention to a film. It's like what we call a really solid B movie. It really is a very solid B movie. Got some good twists and turns. Yeah. And, you know, and again, because it's vacation based,

I don't think it's weird that I brought it up. I'll tell you a little something about myself. I do not read reviews, but I love Manola Dargis of the New York Times, the film critic in the New York Times. And I like reading her reviews. And if I'm in something that she reviews, I read it. Okay. So that's interesting. You prefer, she's good enough that you will dismiss your role of not reading her own reviews. Yeah, because I just enjoy reading her, the way she, I find that she is a refreshing, smart critic, unlike all other critics. Has she ever, has she ever torn you down?

So can you imagine years earlier, and I'm in a movie called Hitman. And I think there's no fucking way Manola Dargis is going to review Hitman. But yes, somehow she got the assignment. And so I open up my New York Times and I'm like, shit, I'm going to have to read this. And she says, I remember the quote, we can fact check this, an embarrassingly cast Timothy Oliphant. That's all she writes as it refers to me. Okay?

And I think, and this is my optimism. This is my glass half full. I was like, well, she didn't say I sucked. She just said I shouldn't be in this movie, which I already knew. So I'm like, technically, we're still on the same page. Yeah. Yeah. so i'm like technically we're still on the same page yeah yeah and then years later she reviews a perfect getaway and she gives the movie a glowing review and says not often used enough

like that's something like where i we want to see wish she could see me more and i'm like oh oh she likes me. Now, I just remember, I feel like I'm pulling a perfect getaway review. Yeah, I'm going to try to find it. Can you? Okay. Tell me what she said, because I remember that making my day. A, that she liked the movie.

She just really enjoyed that movie, Perfect Getaway. And it was like five like a five years later that's my only that's my relationship to manola dargis of the new york times um well i'll ask you a couple questions here while seth's looking that up and uh he can still contribute because he can do two things at once uh you you can only pick one of these is your ideal vacation are you relaxing is it adventurous is it enlightening or is it educational relaxing this first okay am i putting in the order just gotta pick one yeah you can stop right there yeah okay all right relaxing the the hardest thing for tim to do to stop right there god damn it

it's so guilty of that i can play the part you want the short answers i'll be that guy let's start over all right well no this next one's another short one but you prefer to travel by train plane automobile boat or on foot a walk solves everything yeah yeah my girlfriend's dad always says you never regret taking a walk and that's the truth. Feels good. He fell off the side of a cliff, right? Wasn't he the one who... Last words? Let me tell you something else. And you didn't offer this option.

But it's hard to be in a bad mood on a bicycle. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we've lived in Amsterdam for years. And anytime we go back, like you rent a bike and you get on it, it's just like that's when you feel that sort of wave come over you. You're like, yeah, this is what it was like. I'm glad you brought this up. Are you guys talking about family trips when the host,

when the guest is not on the podcast? Did you guys talk about family trips to preview this? Yeah, we've kind of, well, we, you know who we had as guests. Because I've heard nothing about your family trips. We had our parents on. And so that was, they were a guest on our podcast as well. So we really got into it. Okay.

Nice. We probably would have offered more snippets of trips that we took if you did. Yeah. You were playing it pretty close to the vest. So sort of, it was hard to take tangents off of nothing. We came out with a pretty aggressive anti-trip position early on in the podcast. So we probably got a little frightened.

I thought what happened is, and your listeners, they'll be able to judge. I thought as I tried to talk about it, and you guys look like you were bored. Oh, no. And so I said, oh, I guess that's not what we were talking about. And raptured and bored. Wrapped. I should say wrapped and bored are Oh, no. And so I said, oh, I guess that's not what it was. And raptured and bored. Wrapped.

I should say wrapped and bored are often the same. I thought when I said Royal Robins, one of you would say, no way. Well, that was a massive miscalculation. If you could take a vacation with any family other than your family alive or dead who what family would you go on vacation with oh those uh the donner family yeah it sounds like a party right it was like a it was a class it was a famous part trip party road trip. I only know about the one trip of theirs.

Yeah. And don't you have questions? Oh, you want to go to get answers. Doesn't everybody want answers? Yeah, that's true. I mean, isn't that why we're here? That is why we're here. So the Donners, thank you for that. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?

The youngest. Great, the youngest. Okay. That's Vivian? No, no. I mean, wait. I would, my wife. Yeah, that'd be good.

Yeah, I'd pick my wife. But would she be mad that you picked her? She'd be like like are you kidding me i don't want to go on another trip with you it'll be in the back of the stranded part yeah you'll be like hey good news we can we i rented a hearse we can sleep in a coffin save money on hotels i'm not taking the kid anyone yeah i'm not picking a kid over um i'm no i'm i'm my wife and i you know my wife and i've lived a lot of places and we've always had a pretty good time yeah that's great and so i feel like the stranded on the desert island would be um it's a desert island yeah

yeah man would you recommend modesto as a vacation destination? Oh, during the springtime with the blossoms. Oh, still no, still no. Really? I fully got hooked late in the pod. I fully got hooked. And then Seth, you want to ask your, I want to ask my question, but first I'm going to read you so here's what I did I found the review yeah what'd you say well first of all I did a open apple F

you know all the fun and the website was like that's not a word and I had to double search it but there's two quotes about you and I'm very I feel like you I feel like you do I not remember it right no you do.

Oh, I do. The last word, the last, and again, this is Steve Zahn, who's wonderful in the film. Last sentence, having tamped down his comic side, Mr. Zahn does a fine impression of a rabbit, while the regrettably underemployed Mr. Oliphant makes a world-class hunter. That's a great final line.

Regrettably, you you know for somebody who thought you were you know so miscast in hitman full circle but yeah now here's what i feel like you're employed here's the thing that bums me out is you made me search for your name and the other mention of your name is uh timothy oliphant a hard body with a sly smile. You dick. I think Manola also said that, but that was just in a blog. You know, it's in the review. A hard body and a sly smile. Oh, that's in the review?

Yes. And you made me look at it. Oh, it's funny. I don't remember that. Well, I mean, I know that you would look. The second one or the one that ends it, that's the one. That's the one to put in your clipping file. And that's the one to shake in your agent's face.

Do you know how funny it is to hear a grown man run around the house, say, do you hear that, honey? I'm regrettably underemployed. And she's like, no kidding. Regrettably underemployed wait that smile that sly smile off your face so here's the thing the last question we ask everybody you've already answered the first half of it because you mentioned that on your wonderful road trip to new york that you guys were at the grand canyon my question for everybody is have you been to the Grand Canyon? Your answer is yes. So now my question to you is, it's a two-parter. Is it worth it? Oh, for sure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

I was a fan, but don't sleep in the back of the, don't make your plans. You know, this, see, I provided a service here because I didn't know this. You guys know, we had not talked prior. I didn't know it was going to be a big Grand Canyon final answer. No. Which I also, is that really what you're going with in the podcast? Yeah. By the way, nobody was listening to this thinking that you had overprepared for it. Okay.

God damn it. Okay. Sometimes I do prepare for these things. You know what? Your show I prepare for. Of course. You know what? Your show I prepare for. Of course. You know, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say a sincere thing about you.

The first time you were on the show, I mean, I'm a huge fan of yours. Before I met you. Even more so now. But Deadwood, Justified, those are two perfect shows in my estimation. But I didn't know what kind of dude you were going to be. And the first time you showed up, before I even met you, you wanted to do a bit that we wrote out and the bit was that you before i introduced you you leaned your head out and you asked that i could say please welcome my good

friend because you thought that the audience is more more prone to like a guest if you introduce them with good friends and uh for me it was such a delight because I had the one thing I had no sense of was your sense of humor. And it was such a fun, it was such a fun first interaction that has then continued to be nothing but a delight. Well, back at you, as you know, before I went on your show, I didn't know what kind of dude you were. I mean, I just watched the show. And I'm like, well, maybe that's what he's like, but then I met you and what a delight. It's, it doesn't come across, you know, when you're, when you're doing your show, I feel like this is going the wrong way.

I just not how I did it. When the show you seem cold, you seem cold and sort of interested yeah you're sitting behind the desk josh you will enjoy this we uh tim and i got dinner and this was a big step we've we've since had dinner a few times but like the first time you dinner with somebody you only know as a guest on your talk show it's a big step right it's like a date it was like it was like a date and the other thing was i made a reservation and i kind of thought i don't know maybe because of the name that the reservation was under might get a nice little kind of cozy corner so that we could share our showbiz tales sort of behind the curtain showbiz tales we were

so close tiny two-top with uh two women on each side of us yes each of each table immediately started talking to us very nicely but like it was very clear that we could not talk about the things we want to talk about yeah yeah but you stepped it up uh the next time we went out and we went out with others you've like stepped it out you made the booth at the really it was pretty sweet because the first time you uh you did show up and immediately bust on me for how shitty the table was, you were like, well, I guess you must have really pulled the celeb card. It's just important to put out what everybody's thinking. You know what I mean?

You might as well just get out. You know what I mean? There's no point trying to hide what everybody's on. I think even the people next to us were thinking the same thing. I think everybody, right. They were happy to hear you say it. And they did hear you say it because they could hear everything either of us said the entire. Exactly.

Tim, I love you. Thank you for doing this. Yeah, I love you too. It's really been a pleasure. It always is. And Josh, it's great to see you. You know, Josh and I met here in la too so we've hung out yeah i introduced myself at a party i was like i'm seth's brother and you're like no but

what's your name i want to know your name did i say that yeah that's a good dude right there well first of all and hello i know you're gonna be yourself look at you guys you're brothers i know it might be a small a small problem with podcasts. We also sound a great deal alike. I had one idea to do on this podcast, and I didn't, which was to keep saying, and now that's Josh talking, and now that's Seth talking. Well, I think if you go back and listen,

Josh is the voice that thought the Timbits were going to work. Wow. Wait, I have one. I want to say real quick. Justified. Depending on when this comes out, you can see the new Justified. Very exciting. Don't forget to congratulate me on the Emmy. The Emmy nomination for Daisy Jones and the Six.

Come on. Guest actor in a non-crying performance. And then the Soderbergh show. What's the name of the Soderbergh show? So that's called Full Circle. Full show. What's the name of the Soderbergh show? So the that's called full circle. That's on max. Oh, that's,

that's a good one. All right. We got a couple of things to look forward to a summer of Timothy. Well, that's what I hear. They're calling it. I mean, but

all right, buddy, this is everybody has their moment. I guess this one's mine. I don't get it. Yeah. Get your sunscreen this is. Everybody has their moment. I guess this one's mine. I don't get it. Yeah, get your sunscreen out. Yeah. Get your sunscreen out.

The lights are going to be bright of son Timothy. All right. Thank you, buddy. Gentlemen, it's a pleasure. Absolutely. Thank you for having me. Who takes his lady, his lifelong companion. How's this for Shady to sleep in the back of a truck at the Grand Canyon?

Who gave her everything warm he packed But then when he got cold took it back Tim Oliphant That's who Who gets a scholarship And says no thanks I'll pay Cause I'll be okay anyway My ceramics will surely crush Who goes on a podcast

That's titled Family Trips But won't talk about family trips Says people don't care about that shit And who's still such a charming guy With his hard body and smile so sly Telling all the friends that's who.