Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - TY BURRELL River Rafted the Grand Canyon!
Episode Date: July 8, 2025Ty Burrell joins Seth and Josh on the podcast this week! He talks all about growing up in Oregon, what life was like with his younger brother growing up and what brought them together, the life changi...ng encouragement he received from his father, living in Los Angeles during his time on Modern Family, life in Utah, a family vacation to the Grand Canyon, and so much more! Plus, Ty talks about his new scripted comedy podcast, THE GOOD LIFE, which he created, executive produced and stars in, out now! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. ------------------------- Support our sponsors: Visit Baltimore Baltimore is just a short drive or train ride from New York, Philly, and D.C. Plan your visit today at Baltimore.org Baltimore: You won’t get it ‘til you get here!” DeleteMe Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/TRIPS and use promo code TRIPS at checkout. Soul Right now, Soul is offering our audience 30% off your entire order! Go to GetSoul.com and use the code TRIPS. Family Trips Live Family Trips Live from Amsterdam will be released on 7/17 and was made possible by Airbnb." ------------------------- About the Show: Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey, Bashi.
Hey, Zuvie.
We went to Amsterdam.
We sure did.
We did it.
We did it. We took a family trip.
Yeah, as we're recording this, I got back late last night.
I'm pretty tired.
That was a lot.
It was a lot.
You had, you sort of were on both mom and dad duty,
and then you also had Mackenzie, and you had Mackenzie's mom.
So you were sort of running with the real adult adults.
Yeah, I had the older set.
And I gotta say, like, I give it up to them
because they went hard.
They went hard, they went late.
There was a lot of walking.
Lots of walking.
We went to an amusement park.
We were at our sort of favorite amusement park
in the world, the Efteling,
and we were waiting in a line,
and I asked Linda, my mother outlaw,
as she prefers to be called,
I was like, when's the last time
you were in an amusement park?
And she's like, I think when I took Mackenzie to Disney,
and I was like, wasn't she like eight when that happened?
And she said, yes, it would had been a long time for Linda.
I mean, when was the last time mom and dad
went to an amusement park?
Probably around the same.
Yeah, yeah, probably.
I mean, there's, you know, there's a very easily defined
reason for why you stopped going to an amusement park.
And you even morning of, because you looked at the weather
and you saw it was gonna be a scorcher.
You sort of ran it by mom,
maybe this would not be a day for her
to go to amusement park.
Yeah, well, initially my read was that it was gonna be 98,
but that was gonna be the following day.
So it was 90, which is not nothing.
And mom very often when she goes out and like,
if she plays golf in the heat,
she will get what she calls the flux
and what no doctor has really a term for.
But it rocks her in a way that she then needs to go
lay in a dark room for 13 hours.
Which she also does sans flux like twice a week. Right. Just because she's tired.
Jumping around a little bit, mom and dad showed up to their hotel. We're very upset because
they were on the second floor facing the street. We're very concerned about how loud it was
going to be. Went down to the front desk, politely asked if they could have their room
switched. They were told they could switch it the next day, also politely.
This was all, nobody handled this poorly.
And then mom and dad, their first night slept 13 hours
and didn't hear a sound.
13 and a half.
Yeah. 13 and a half.
And so then to their credit,
they went out in the front desk and said,
hey, I think we might have overreacted.
Yeah.
I think you can keep us where we are.
I had to go do a wellness check because they weren't answering their phones. and said, hey, I think we might have overreacted. Yeah. I think you can keep us where we are.
I had to go do a wellness check because they weren't answering their phones.
And I was like, this is impossible that they're still sleeping.
Yeah.
And had the front desk call up and that was their alarm clock that day.
And what does she call it when she goes more than 12 hours?
The cycle.
She slept for the cycle.
She slept for the cycle.
She's like, that's more than the cycle.
More than the cycle. She slept for the cycle. And she's like, that's more than the cycle.
More than the cycle.
Ash and I, we rolled in 7.30 in the morning.
We touched down and Ash had only slept
about three hours on the plane.
Part of that was we boarded at 6.30,
that's way before his bedtime and he was all hyped up.
You know, he's excited about taking this trip.
Sure.
He pretty thrilled at the idea of watching Thor Ragnarok.
Yeah, well, yeah, who wouldn't be?
You know, that movie ends with some hot-ass Zeppelin song.
Mm-hmm.
That's not gonna put it,
but that's nobody's white noise machine.
Yeah.
And so by the time he actually fell asleep,
it was three hours, and then woke up,
and then we got to our Airbnb,
and we were lucky enough to check in early,
and that was, I know it's dangerous to do,
but we just had to go to sleep.
I couldn't keep him up on a three-hour sleep.
And so then we slept for another four hours,
and waking him up was like, I don't know,
pulling a sword from a stone,
and then making the stone wake up.
Now, you mentioned Thor Ragnarok and Zeppelin, which is a pretty charged up song. You would think
after like eight hours at the amusement park, people are probably pretty cooked on a 90-day day.
Cooked, yeah.
Yeah. And there were some issues with the van or the bus
that we had to get back.
It wasn't there to get us when we got to the parking lot
in the blazing sun to get in and get back.
So we had to wait maybe another half hour.
This is the thrilling thing about Northern Europe
in the summer.
We left the amusement park.
We took a bus with a lot of people,
friends and colleagues from Boom Chicago, took a 90-minute bus ride, got there, left the amusement park at 730 at night.
The sun was dead above us.
Yeah, 7 is the hottest it is during the day.
It was all day. It was 90 degrees, and we were, it literally walked to a parking lot where we expected to see a bus.
There was no bus. there was no shade.
Dad basically said,
if we have to walk 100 yards to the bus,
I'd rather just die here.
Yeah, he sat in the shade.
He's like, well, if you guys wanna go,
there wasn't a lot of shade where he sat,
but he took a good shade spot and he's like,
this is where I'll be, you come get me.
Yeah.
But so people are pretty beat up
after a day out at the park.
And so we get on this, you know, bus eventually.
And also you had left some stuff on the bus
as plenty, as we were all told we could do.
And then that stuff wasn't there
because it was a different bus.
There was some mix up snafu
and we were gonna get it sort of dropped off halfway home.
But on that bus ride when people are pretty beat up, it's very quiet,
everyone's a bit tired, but you and Ash were watching the Thor Ragnarok trailer
at what seemed like double volume of any given phone.
Yeah. I think I'd reach the point as a solo parent
on day four of the trip.
I was thinking not of anybody else
and I do wanna apologize.
Oh, you weren't?
Now, just it's immigrant song is the song.
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Ah!
Not only that.
I'm going to make the neisens now.
It's very kind for you to say that
that was the only one we watched
because we basically were going in order
through the Marvel catalog watching one after the other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, by the way though, this is the thing.
And again, we have so much to talk about with this script.
We really do.
This might, this might. And the fact that we're drilling down on the bus is a huge...
This might bridge.
Yeah, I think we stretch it out or a couple of intros.
Yeah.
So, you know, the Dutch are wonderful people.
They also, when it comes to just customer service,
there's not a lot of apologizing
when things go terribly wrong.
So, you know, you rent a bus, it's no small thing, and the bus isn't there.
Then the bus is an hour late.
And then they show up and they say, this is actually a different bus now.
And we say we left stuff in the.
The hold of the first bus, they told us it would be there.
And they're like, yeah, it's a different bus now.
So one of the reasons we were watching trailers
to the Marvel movies is that Ash did not have his book
because on the ride out, he very quietly sat
and read a Percy Jackson book.
Yeah, yeah.
I was impressed.
A lot of the children,
like there were a lot of sort of adult things
that were going on.
Our friend Jill Benjamin, her kids were there,
Jackson and Josie Mae. And we were on a boat at this like party There were a lot of sort of adult things that were going on. Our friend Jill Benjamin, her kids were there,
Jackson and Josie Mae.
And we were on a boat at this party that was from,
I don't know, like 10 to one, 10 PM.
That's 10 PM to one in the morning, yeah.
And Josie Mae Henson, which I think she's like 14,
I think she turned 14 on this trip,
she was just sitting on the boat reading her book.
Like she had a Kindle and it was like, well yeah,
cause she's not super into this adult party.
And I was so impressed with all the kids who were like,
I'm just gonna go read my book.
It was very funny, the mix it was between I love to read
and also you guys are all so boring to us.
Yeah, that was so again, we went back and you know, you're gonna hear a lot about this
because we recorded a live episode.
And one of my favorite episodes we've ever done, a lot of our old friends from from
Boone Chicago who are very funny came up and told stories of Hillary and Larry, our parents
the punkas were there.
So it was great.
And it was all because Andrew Ansosky, who started Boom Chicago,
had their 25th wedding anniversary.
I guess they renewed their vows.
Ash yelled at me today.
Ash, again, you sometimes think your kids
aren't paying attention at all.
And I told people we went back for an anniversary
and he literally said,
it was a vow renewal, geez.
It was a vow renewal.
It was a vow renewal. It was a vow renewal.
And so there were a lot of adult things.
You know, we did our podcast, Ash sat through that.
We did an improv show, Ash went to his first improv show.
We went to a vow renewal and an after party.
And we were supposed to go home on Monday
and then decided to stay an extra day.
Yeah.
And go to this amusement park.
And I'm so glad we did it because Ash really did deserve
a day that was just for kids.
Yeah.
And it was, you know, Mackenzie was so happy that we went
and she was like, yeah, I, as well as you could have
described it, it was better than what she expected.
And she was so glad she got to do it.
And like, it's, there's something, even though we're older now,
there is something special about doing rides with your parents.
Like, I was with, you know, our parents all day and there is that sort of like little level of magic.
And then there's that thing of like, I don't know if dad can like, will want to do a roller coaster anymore.
And he's like, I want to do that one again. Yeah.
He did do one, any Bird Rock.
And it's a great roller coaster.
The roller coasters at this park are very unique.
And this one, basically,
the entirety of the roller coaster takes place indoors,
pretty much in the dark.
So you sort of feel like you are,
it's you have a sense that you're flying downwards.
Obviously.
It's a little space mountainy, certainly.
Little space mountainy.
Maybe smooth.
And when it was over, he was like, that was great.
But that mom told me he said he was unsettled.
But it was, yeah, it was really fun.
The kids only blanched at one roller coaster
that was sort of a dead drop where they saw it.
But otherwise they did everything.
And there's a real mix of sort of fairy rides
and roller coasters.
And Ash decided that he was a roller coaster dude
and I was really happy about that
because we didn't have unlimited time there.
I think we maybe did 10 rides.
Yeah, which is a great day there.
Great day.
Yeah.
But then it keeps coming back.
I feel like there's a lot of stuff
that Mackenzie didn't see that I'll be eager
to take her back to it again.
Also, I should say that it was the first time
I went to that amusement park without substances.
Without assistance. It was the first time I went to that amusement park without......substances?
SIMON Without assistance?
Yeah.
I'm not going to say what substances, but one is a common wash for denim in the 80s,
and another can sometimes be a topping on a pizza.
But I'm happy to say that you do not need either of those.
You know, it was a little bit like Dumbo's feather posh.
You know, I could fly without it.
Right.
I also said to Ash, there was, you know,
feeding kids is such an important part
of them having a good day.
But we were running around so much.
We rented bikes.
Ash and I were biking around Amsterdam, which I had so much anxiety about and he crushed
it.
And I said to him, you just have to tell me when you're hungry.
And we were just walking in the amusement park and all of a sudden, at one point, he
literally just turned.
He was like, I need to eat now.
So the second to last ride, I skipped.
You guys went and I just went in and got him a burger.
And I've never seen you eat a burger faster
than that burger.
It was funny because we were sort of,
at that point we were walking, we were leaving the park
or maybe we were going to do one more ride.
So we were walking to the last ride
and you would like sort of take a bite of the burger
and then you would turn and just sort of hold it
and he would bite it like it was just floating in the air. And like he is nine. What would happen if he was just holding a burger
and walking? It's just too much going on. Neither of my boys can do a second thing.
Could Ash stand there and eat a burger? Yes. Could Ash walk to the next ride? Yes. Could
Ash walk to the next ride while eating a burger? No.
It's like, I think I told you during the school recital
this year, Axel, like we have a video of him.
Like he can sing like, here comes the sun.
But when he does the hand motion of the sun coming up,
like you just watch his whole face go slack.
Yeah.
Like the notion of either of them one day playing piano
and singing at the same time is.
Speaking of Axel, he's at camp today
and he's the prince and the princess and the pea.
So I look forward to reporting back
as to whether or not he nails his lines.
Yeah, oh, I'm excited.
I wish I could see that.
We, again, I think you're right.
We should just continue.
This was the most family trip you and I have been on
since we've started this podcast, Family Trips.
Yeah.
Three generations.
Three generations of Myers.
So it was a lot. It was great.
There's a lot more to tell.
And then there's a lot of stuff that we go through
sort of in the live show,
but we did the live show semi early in the trip.
So there's plenty of things still to touch on.
And we'll do that as we go.
Very lucky.
We have a very lucky group of friends out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we have a wonderful conversation
with our friend Ty Burrell as well.
Oh man.
This dude's, I like this dude a lot.
Also, we're gonna say,
I know we just keep saying, we'll talk about it more.
We had a really lovely moment.
We did this live, Family Trips,
and we did one obviously in Brooklyn
for a podcast festival, which was great,
but this is the first time we actually sat
in front of people that we felt like
had listened to the podcast,
and it was such a cool experience
doing it in front of fans.
So just in general, everybody out there
listens to the podcast, thanks so much.
It's a very cool thing to have, you know, to have a very personal podcast like this
and to share it with people then realize that they know your friends and your parents and your kids.
It's cool. Yeah.
Agreed. All right. Take it away, Jeff. With the Mice Brothers Family Chips
With the Mice Brothers Here we go
Ty!
Hey!
What's up, Ty Guy?
How are you?
Hey, guys.
We're great.
Great. How are you? I'm you guys? We're great. Great.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm good.
It's been forever.
It's been forever.
Ever.
I feel like I first met you when you were doing a play that one of the Weitz brothers
wrote.
Is that correct?
Yeah, that's right.
You were old pals with Judy, right?
Yes, it was Judy and Judy Breer. There you go.
Also a guest on this podcast.
So I'm sorry that you weren't the first person
from that play.
I'm sorry I wasn't the first person on the podcast.
How are you, Ty?
Really good.
Yeah, really good.
Up here in very mellow Utah.
Oh, nice.
Oh, he's just gonna say you're an Oregon boy,
but sort of your vibe right there
is giving off some Oregon vibes.
But I feel like Utah, that works for Utah as well.
Yeah, I gave up on the wet of the Pacific Northwest.
I love it so much.
I still love it so much,
but there's a real sunny optimism to Utah and to the mountains
and I just love it.
I actually talked to my wife into moving back.
She's from here.
Oh, and you had to convince her.
I had to convince her to move back.
Are you close geographically to her people?
Does she still have people there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, very much, very much.
Tons of people, tons of people.
Yeah.
Very close to many people.
You're just known for many people.
Yeah, it is.
And she was raised in the LDS church
and that community is very tight.
Sure.
But since then, my family has moved here as well.
We, I guess ironically, I don't know if it's not really, it's not really ironically, but we have some bars here
in Salt Lake City and my brother moved down
to help run them.
Actually, he runs, not helped, he runs them.
Yeah.
He's gonna love hearing this.
Yeah, it's not ironic if you're like,
he moved to run a bar.
Yeah, it's pretty literal.
It's pretty straightforward.
That's a, that's just a way,
are you out of LA completely?
Yeah.
Good for you. I mean, sorry, Posh, are you out of LA completely? Yeah. Good for you.
I mean, sorry Posh, but you know.
It's all right.
How many years now?
We've been, since the show wrapped essentially.
Great.
Weeks before the pandemic.
Oh wow.
Good move.
It was a crazy fit of timing.
We're very, we're very self-righteous about having not moved
because of the pandemic.
We always, we very much lead with that.
And I'm assuming because Modern Family never took off,
you guys are renting?
Yeah, yeah.
I had an Airstream very close to Fox.
Yeah, right, right.
Move it every other day first week.
You have teenage, are they daughters?
Do you have two daughters?
Yeah.
How do they, so I'm guessing they might, do they have any memories of LA or do they just
feel like you saw some?
They feel betrayed.
I think there's a real betrayal there that we took them up to the mountains.
There's nothing for them here, really. They, I've kind of, I was kind of convinced
that I would, you know, make them outdoorsy, but.
Too late. It was too late.
It was too late.
It was too late.
They just want to go to Arowan
and get that Hailey Bieber shake.
Yeah.
How long have you been in LA, Josh?
20 years, 20, 22, 23, yeah.
Big bunch.
Yeah, I still, I have great affection for LA.
In many ways, it feels like the greatest location shoot of my life.
You know, like it was just such a lovely place to be, day in and day out. Also with Utah, I mean, it's pretty easy to get down here
if you need to get down to good old LA.
Not according to my daughters, but yes.
Not easy enough.
No.
You need to buy him a Waymo and just say,
yeah, just get in this car and it'll drive you there.
I took a Waymo last time I was down there.
I just absolutely enjoyed it.
I hope that's not a betrayal to humanity, but.
No, I mean, I really wanna take one.
I live a half a block north
of where a Waymo will pick you up.
So I-
Oh, I didn't know there was a range like that.
Yeah, there's a range.
And you just feel like that defeats the purpose
if you have to walk to your Waymo.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the whole point of robot cars
is you don't have to walk to your Waymo. Thank, I'm not walking. I mean, that's the whole point of robot cars is you don't have to walk to your Waymo.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I would not get in a Waymo.
I'll just not say it. You would not?
No.
Why?
I just feel like,
I feel like it'll just steal my data.
Yeah, it probably is.
It probably is.
I feel like I have like all these like notes in my phone
about like standup bits and I feel like the next,
if I ride in a Waymo,
the car is gonna be up there just doing them.
They have access to everything you got.
How does he know about my stuff about all the shampoos
my wife has?
I know, very specific.
And then the Waymo's like, my wife is the same.
I'm like, all right.
Did you?
So I feel very romantic about the Pacific Northwest
for no reason, and that I really like the rain.
I do too.
I do know it gets a little oppressive.
Like it's one thing to be there for a weekend,
but you did love growing up there.
You stuck around, you went to college up there, correct?
Yeah, yeah.
And my brother and family, you know,
are still up there and another brother.
And I love it.
I loved it.
It is, it's one thing, it's a little like the,
it's a little like winter in New York, right?
Where I always loved winter in New York
through like the second week of February
and then there's the last six to seven weeks.
Yeah, the Goldgrums.
Becomes a real head game.
And the Pacific Northwest can be that way, at least for me too, which is like it's incredibly
romantic until it's July.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's like the long tail of New York winter.
You're so right. When it's just kind of like slush.
When the slush is holding out.
Dirty, dirty slush.
And you know spring is coming, but the slush is like,
we, yeah, we're going gonna hang out a little bit longer.
Yeah, there's definitely,
I have some incredible memories of sticking around
at college to have fun for parts of the summer
and all of us still sort of not really going out
because there was no real beach volleyball.
It was just sort of overcast all the time.
Did your parents grow up there as well?
Or did they, do people find their way to Oregon
or they just go to Oregon?
Yeah, I don't know if it's,
my mom has a crazy childhood.
She lived in, she went to I think 24 different schools
before she graduated high school.
Her dad was a Pentecostal minister.
It'd be so great if instead, the opposite would be like,
she was just the worst behaved.
Yeah.
She got thrown out.
You know how bad, you got literally,
never more than two weeks before they were like,
you're out of here.
All bare knuckle stuff.
Yeah.
All like really gritty, really, really gritty.
And they're always like, you know the crazy thing,
her dad's a minister.
Yeah.
Sometimes they revolt.
I do think that there was some bad behavior
on my grandfather's part.
So I think that that is part of how so many homes happened.
But she had lived in Oregon and several towns in Oregon
and my dad's family moved up from Southern California
to start a dairy farm in Southern Oregon.
And so when my mom and dad were trying to decide where to settle, they chose Southern
Oregon.
Gotcha.
And you have two brothers?
I have two brothers and a sister. Gotcha.
One brother who is here with me in Utah
and then a brother and sister in Oregon.
So, yeah.
All right, I hope they're not all listening,
but is the brother who's with you now,
was that always the one you were closest with?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Yes, yeah.
I mean, I think we all know it.
Yeah, that's right, at this point.
There's no, there's no. I mean, do you know how close you have to be
to somebody to go work at a bar in Utah?
Well, there's a need, there was a need.
There was a need, that's true, there was an untapped market.
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Are you the oldest of the siblings?
No, I'm second to youngest. My brother is youngest. And we, my sister was above us and then we have an older brother who's, you know, like
seven, eight years older than me and even older, even older as you might imagine based
on how time works than my younger brother.
But yeah, my younger brother and I became very, very close. We were out in the woods of Oregon during our formative years
where we were truly on our own.
I mean, our sister was there, but she was also just trying to have some semblance
of a, you know, a female life out in the woods.
Yeah.
So she was like reading books and stuff.
But my brother and I spent, you know, all of our time together running around in the woods and doing bits.
Like we would just do bits for hours on end.
I mean, it's very funny to think of somebody like going to the wood to do bits.
I mean, that's what Lewis and Clark did.
Status games, Lewis and Clark, they love to trade off.
Like who's in power.
Was your town, were you in a very sort of rural area?
Yeah, we were in very much a rural area.
We were in a town of 200 people.
Wow.
Called Applegate, Oregon.
And I think it's Roxanne C. Martin's line is,
we don't get much irony out here.
And it was like that.
We were very much,
we had no business being out there.
We really didn't.
My dad was very much a beta male.
Like he was like the only beta male they'd ever seen.
It was like a really rarefied thing to have this guy
who was behind the register,
who was deferential and would ask some questions.
My dad worked in the foster care system before that.
And that's partly why we moved out there,
is it kind of broke him in some ways,
even though he ended up going back to it later.
But he ended up becoming a family therapist after this.
So it was a fascinating time in our lives
where it was a logging community at the time.
So truly it was, there were, now it's all wine country.
It's all very, very, very different.
But it was all just like, you know,
very traditional rural Oregon life.
And there was this guy behind the counter
who got the New York Times and LA Times
delivered to this country store.
Have you ever read the book,
Sometimes a Great Notion by Ken Kesey?
I have read, it's been so long.
He's a Eugene guy.
Yeah, it's one of my favorite books,
but it's about this logging community.
Yeah, I do remember that.
And it's about two brothers,
one super alpha and one beta.
Oh, I'm forgetting that.
Yeah, it's really great.
I'm forgetting that.
But it's so, and then your mom was a teacher?
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
She was a teacher at a one-room schoolhouse out there
in the woods.
It's all very like weird.
And yeah, it's so fun that you, I don't know,
I guess there's still plenty of one-room schoolhouses.
I don't know why I'm looking down my nose at them.
It feels like you could get it done.
Yeah, no, I think it'd be a great time.
I did, I pulled up Applegate on Google Maps
and it does, you are in that sort of valley,
but you're just surrounded by mountains
on every side it seems like.
Yeah, and my understanding, I'm not an expert,
but I believe that it's described as Neil Appalachian
or Appalachian because all the people
from the Appalachians moved there
because it was so similar and all these families lived up those
haulers so each hauler would have its own family.
You know, the the Deckers lived up there, the Offenbachers lived up that hauler
and it came with all the stuff of Appalachia.
It's really funny. I didn't realize people would leave Appalachia to just look for a place that was stuff of Appalachia. It's really funny. I didn't realize people would leave Appalachia
to just look for a place that was similar to Appalachia.
It's like Appalachia.
I gotta get outta here.
Yeah.
I gotta get outta here.
There's gotta be a different holler.
Let's go find a holler so far away from here.
How did your father come by the country store?
Did you work there as well?
I did.
I mean, work is, you know, that's putting it loosely.
I shuffled around in 1891.
Our grandfather had a liquor store
and we kind of would work there.
He had a liquor store?
Yeah, in Marblehead, Massachusetts.
Wow, how did that work?
It was great.
People would buy it and then drink it
and then they would get a little.
They'd have fun for a while and then they get mean.
But then they'd need to come back for more.
Then their lives would fall apart,
and then they'd stop drinking it.
Yeah.
Then new people would buy it.
By the way, before people were trying Utah,
there was a lot of money in selling liquor in New England.
But I mean, as kids working at a liquor store, was there any legal?
No, we were mostly, we would do a lot of like a recycled, people would return cans for the
bottle deposit.
Okay.
We would just, we would put them in sort of cartons, right, Pash?
Yeah, we would do that.
We would bag ice.
Yeah, we did a lot of ice bagging.
And then we would, they'd give us like a price gun and they'd be like, just go gun like all these bottles of wine or whatever.
And then we'd get paid in scratch tickets.
Yeah.
I think it was...
Oh, wow.
Oh, that's amazing.
I do remember it was like hot,
but where we worked was like by the ice machine,
and it was kind of a nice cool,
although albeit a very dark cool place to work in the summer,
but I didn't hate it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was it, I don't mean this about your grandpa, I mean about the customers, was there any sort of like melancholy to working at a liquor store or was it actually pretty sunny?
It was pretty good. It was pretty brightly lit and Marblehead was sort of a nice sort of, it's kind of a classic looking New England town. And there was a bit of a good, certainly in the beginning,
there was also a bit of a gourmet
grocery store element to it.
Like I feel like that's where you get good crackers.
Yeah, they had like a butcher at some point.
Oh, wow, okay.
And then they pared it down
and eventually it was just a liquor store.
But there were like the regulars that would come in
that had nicknames.
I remember there was a guy named Flycatcher
cause his mouth was always wide open.
Yeah.
There was some like Twitchy would come in, but so.
Can I guess a Twitchy?
Yeah.
Big mouth, big mouth.
Turns out almost by the fact that you're a regular
at a liquor store, it means you're not gonna have
a complimentary nickname.
Yes.
Yes. Rosie. And there was Romeo, everybody had Romeo.
Oh, there was Rosatia, he was a great guy.
Yeah, oh, cause he drank Rose?
No, no, he drank bourbon.
And a plastic bag.
We had a town drunk in Applegate of those 200 people.
It was all very cartoonish in that way.
We had a guy who once every month
would be passed out under the bridge.
Didn't have a family, thank God,
so it didn't have that kind of sadness.
Even at the time, had a little bit of like,
ah, a town drunk.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think ever a town drunk was upset when another drunk moved to town and bit of like, ah, a town drunk. Yeah, yeah. Do you think the town,
do you think ever a town drunk was upset
when another drunk moved to town and they were like,
well, maybe that's why they're like,
I gotta find a different holler.
Well, well, honey,
my day's here over.
Get your own bridge to sleep under.
Get your own bridge.
Get your own bridge, motherfucker.
Hey, nobody's over here.
So what did you...
Did you guys go on trips?
Yeah, we...
Every summer, my dad...
We went on the same trip every summer.
Which was my dad...
I don't know why my dad got to choose.
I hope my mom also liked this trip.
I need to ask her.
She's still with us.
Um, but, uh, he took his two weeks.
He loved going to the beach.
So we took our two weeks and he would get up, uh, not get up.
He would get off work at like five.
From, uh, uh, children's services in Oregon, and he would immediately come home, vacuum out
the car, pack it, and we would drive to Newport Beach, California, which we did not have money
or a beach house or anything.
We had an aunt who had truly a a shack near the beach and he would
we would drive all night, we would drive overnight and he would get there and he would take his
chair out onto the beach and plop it on the beach and he liked to paint and he would bring his paints
and in the early days he would bring you you know, like a vat of screwdrivers and a book, and then two weeks later we'd leave.
That was his thing.
Except for one summer when my brother got out of the Navy and had gotten his first wife pregnant and took my dad's
two weeks, his only two weeks to, he got out of the Navy and needed an apartment and we
were holding his stuff.
And he called my dad and this is after telling the family that, you know, he'd gotten this
woman pregnant and, you know, we were about to get married and saying, hey, we need an
apartment in San Diego, can you bring the stuff down?
And my dad was already, you know, frustrated.
Then he's giving up his only vacation. So we got in the van, just my dad
and his best friend, Mike Broomfield,
and our friend Charlie Broomfield and my brother,
who the aforementioned guy who kind of helps out at the bar.
And we got in the van on top of all of my brother's furniture.
It's an old Ford van with the,
before, you know, no air conditioning in the back.
It had one of those old like 70s vents on top.
You know what I mean?
Like you would have on the hood of a car,
but it was on top.
So essentially to stay alive,
but I mean, you know, it was all an adventure.
We laid underneath the vent on top of all the furniture,
all the way to San Diego, which is where my brother got out of the military.
And my brother, when we got there and in my, in, in, in my brother's defense, he
was a total fuck up.
He had done nothing when we got there and he'd been there for a week.
And my dad was out of his mind, furious.
He and his best friend went, the first stop was the, I believe it was the liquor store
for themselves.
And then they started driving around with, you know, this furniture looking for places for my brother and sent him out.
And he sheepishly was out looking,
but that trip ended with just a lot of fights and whatever.
But the best part about that trip was that on the way home,
after all of that and just my dad with his head down,
essentially after missing his vacation.
On our way home, there, I don't remember, I think maybe it's around Sacramento, there's
an, on I-5, there's an off-ramp for Reno, Nevada, and my dad just went and turned and we went to Reno.
And we went to Reno for like three nights.
And even his friend was like, we can't do that.
Like this is like, you know, he had work to do and, and, and they, it was, you
know, I don't know if it was a different time or just really, really bad fathering.
But he, they literally let us out for three days. We had no parenting for three days.
And the only thing they had...
In Reno.
In Reno, they only had the honeymoon suite.
So we were sleeping with mirrors up above our beds, all of these three boys.
Great for masturbating, by the way.
Yeah. Well, of course.
Well, it's like a bit of a tutorial,
because you know how to see it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you get so close with yourself.
But we just rode escalators and, you know,
rode elevators and roamed around Reno for three days.
Were you just like running through casino floors?
Yeah, we were.
We were. And we were out, the three of us were you just like running through casino floors? Yeah, we were.
We were up and we were out.
The three of us were out until like three or four
in the morning.
I'm not kidding.
And this is my dad eventually, I will say,
sometimes eventually the drinking wasn't fun,
but this was a very fun weekend.
Nothing says we grew up in a rural town
more than you being like, we did escalators, we did elevators.
We did.
By the way, this is a true story.
And my dad cut this out and kept it and he loved it so much.
The first escalator that came to Southern Oregon,
they printed a tutorial in the newspaper.
About how to use it.
About how to use it.
And it was really very detailed about like,
don't freak out.
Like it's gonna, you're gonna put a foot out
and then you're just gonna like trust it.
That's fate.
That's fate.
But be ready at the end.
I mean, by the way, they only do that
because like the previous five towns
had just been a disaster with like just a pile up.
So many deaths.
So many deaths.
So many people died.
I get it, but you know, I think it's important to say
at some point the drinking didn't become fun,
but a vat of screwdrivers is a, I mean, as a beach,
I'm both like, oh, that doesn't sound healthy.
And also I'm like, man, I'd like a nice ice cold
screwdriver on the beach. That's kind of bad. And also I'm like, man, I'd like a nice ice cold screwdriver on the beach.
That's kind of bad.
You know, honestly, those memories, I know I'm supposed to say that those
were traumatic memories.
They just were not.
They were like he and his brother, which is really like how my brother, we had
no like performers in our family.
My brother and I learned about doing bits from he and his brother.
Right.
His brother is sort of a, at least local legend of a con artist.
But they did just, he always, his brother and their family
were almost always with us on this trip, I should clarify.
Yeah.
And they would sit out there and drink those screwdrivers and just laugh.
That's a good detail, because now it's not just a dude alone pounding screwdrivers.
No, there's paints and it's, yeah, Monica.
No, lots and lots of laughs.
It's been so long since I've had or ordered a screwdriver
that I was going to circle back and be like,
what were the screwdrivers for,
thinking that he had paints, a chair,
and an actual bunch of screwdrivers, the tools. He's adjudicating, he's adjud of screwdrivers. The tools.
He's adjudicating.
He's adjudicating screwdrivers.
Do you have any of his paintings?
I have many.
Oh, great.
Yeah.
So does that, and is that out of affection for him,
or do you think he actually had skill?
Oh, I think he was really good.
That's great.
I think he was really, really good.
He, honestly, like, you know, that's how I ended up getting into performing was that when he
was, he died when he was pretty young.
That's a really selfish way to say that.
He died when I was young.
I think a lot of people say it that way.
My dad died when I was young.
I don't know how old he was.
I don't know.
No, he died when he was young.
He was in his 40s.
Oh, wow.
One past.
Sober, by the way.
Sober for like eight years,
but he really regretted not having taken the leap.
His career really beat him up.
It was tough.
After selling the store, he went back to social work.
And he really regretted not having taken the leap
of trying to just be an artist
and make a living as an artist.
So I had that rare, really rare experience
of having, when he was sick, him saying,
out of nowhere,
I had hosted a talent show in high school
and my dad said I think you should try being an actor.
Oh wow.
And I mean, the opposite of what dads are supposed to say
when they're leaving this earth is like,
you should get a good job.
You should really find some work and take care of your mom. But he was like,
I really think you should try being an actor. And I think he really wanted me to take that
leap. And I was like, it was super cool. And I had no idea what that even meant. I mean,
literally, we had lived out in the woods and nobody in my family had done anything like that. So I just was like, I, you know, I winged it. I went into a college
Shakespeare class and sort of like stumbled around for a long time. But really, it came
from that, you know, from him, you know, and by the way, that was a long way of saying
he was really good. Yeah, he was really good. Did he just paint like Newport Beach in the ocean
or was he painting from his mind's eye?
He did both and he started as an illustrator
and he sent illustrations,
I'm gonna step real quick here and grab one.
He sent stuff from the woods of Oregon
to the New Yorker regularly, cartoons, and got
just a steady stream of rejection.
But he sent cartoons all the time.
This was the beginning of a cartoon.
Oh yeah.
Oh, it looks really great.
It looks very New Yorker-esque.
Yeah, right?
Yeah. So real skills. Yeah, it's really great. It looks very New Yorker-esque.
Yeah, right?
So real skills.
Yeah, he was really, really good.
And I actually loved his cartoons.
He was a very funny guy, intentionally funny guy.
I guess nowadays he would be unintentionally at his age.
But he was a really funny guy.
And so he started as an illustrator.
He worked for McDon McDonald Douglas in Los Angeles.
You know, when they would draw how to put a plane together.
Oh, wow.
And I remember him always saying to my mom,
my mom telling me now,
but her saying that he loved when he got to draw a hand
putting on a bolt or something.
Oh, wow.
You know?
Hands are hard.
Hands are hard.
If you like drawing hands,
I remember taking cartooning classes.
That was on dry, really.
Sass for Dis.
Yeah.
I mean, I never, it is, you know, it's a craft.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, I think you have to have talent,
but you have to treat it like a craft.
And I did not quite love it enough to put that time in.
Do you ever do the attempt,
the contest at the end of the New Yorker
of like try to get, you know,
come up with the best line for the coffee?
Our father does. Oh yeah.
Yeah. Regularly.
Yeah, and he's like so angry that he hasn't gotten one yet.
And I'm like, I'm sure there's tons of people doing it,
but I think he does it every week.
To your point, I have found it incredibly difficult.
Yeah.
Like, it's a real craft.
Like, I thought I was kind of going to roll in and.
We used to do this thing on a show called
Live New Yorker Cartoons where David Remnick would come out
and our cast would dress like
the tableau and then deliver one line.
And it's so funny because putting a big show on it is the opposite of what you should do
to those.
But I remember David Remnick going, I'm like, I bet I could draw a cartoon.
And I drew a cartoon, like Guy on Desert Island.
I feel like they pick one of those every fucking week.
And then I showed it to him and he's like, eh.
I don't know. Okay. Was it something you actually considered for a moment?
I did, I put time into it.
And I thought there was gonna be this great TV moment
where he was like, you got it kid.
And instead he was like,
we see a lot of desert islands.
We see a lot of desert island guys.
You mentioned that you took a Shakespeare class.
You, I did not realize,
but I was looking over your credits today.
You were on Broadway in Macbeth.
Brief, brief moment.
I did not, I looked it up
because I was like, I wonder who the cast was.
And I mean, if it's not too traumatic to talk about,
you were on a very short, a short run in Macbeth.
Famously short.
I mean, honestly, there's the, it's not Sardis. It's the... Whatever the opposite of Sardis is.
Yeah.
Flaardis? I think it's Flaardis.
Well, it's not a great play to begin with.
Yeah, it's hard.
But there is the restaurant in New York that I'm forgetting that has all the flops.
Oh, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about.
Is it not Sardis?
It may be the Sardis.
I think it's Sardis.
Well, Sardis has all the caricatures.
Okay, so it's Sardis.
Yeah, okay.
So it's Sardis.
And we're on that wall.
We're on that wall.
It was Kelsey Grammer playing Beth.
Bless his soul.
We got terrible reviews in Boston.
Like we should never have gone to New York. And he just...
So, for those who don't know, you sort of do a...
You do your previews in a city like Boston,
which still has a theater crowd,
but it's a good bellwether.
Yep.
Bad reviews in Boston probably isn't a good sign.
Don't go. Don't go.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
But he really wanted to get there.
And to his credit, he gave us all a Broadway credit.
He paid for that trip himself.
Wow.
It sounds like a field trip, but it was actually a full Broadway production.
Yeah, he's probably still paying for it.
Yeah, I was going to say matching.
It was not great. It say not cheap. I think he's gonna lose. It was, it was, it was not great.
It was not great.
It was, I mean, it's so long now that I can't be offending anyone.
The director had great success with this production in London,
a guy named Terry Hans, and he tried to recreate it to the moment,
which is great for art.
You always want to try to recreate
every great moment you've had in your past.
I think you guys both started improv.
It's like Seth trying to draw a desert island.
It's like, you know.
Whenever it's always, when you say that,
I always think of the second time in Annie Hall
where Woody Allen's trying to chase the lobster around
with like a different woman.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's the snowball fight in Groundhog Day. Yeah.
Right?
Right.
It's, yeah, we figured out pretty quickly that like the notes were so specific.
Oh, yeah.
That it was like, oh, this other actor who was far more talented than me clearly like
raised his hand and waved and turned to the right.
Oh, so you were like, it was like choreography as well.
It was choreography.
That's a disaster.
So you got a bunch of mannequins, you know, on Broadway.
But we got to be on Broadway for two weeks, so it was really fun.
I had a great time.
That is a, I mean, you know, it's a good reminder that like sometimes, you know,
the joy of doing a show on Broadway, they can't take that away from you.
No, they can't take that away from you.
No, they can't. They can't.
It was awesome.
They tried.
It should be noted, they tried.
They gave us every opportunity.
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When you were on that long drive to Newport Beach,
did you have anticipation?
Was it something you looked forward to?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Were you guys road trip people?
Like were you car trips?
You guys were from New Hampshire?
Yeah, but we used to live in Michigan
and we would drive to where my mom grew up in Massachusetts.
And then we would take trips.
A lot of times I feel like we'd fly to the East Coast
and then we'd drive through New Hampshire
and take sort of more outdoorsy trips.
Before we lived in New Hampshire, our parents live in New Hampshire.
Now we move there when we were little boys.
It's such a West Coast thing, that kind of like long road trip thing, but I'm sure it's
just an American thing.
But yeah, we loved it.
We got so excited to drive all night.
And when we went down for the Olympics,
he had bought the cassette of all the,
essentially the soundtrack to the music, this is 84.
Yeah.
And it was like Mannheim, whatever,
Seymour or whatever had done the national anthem and a variety of,
dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun,
you know, it was terrible.
It was really bad.
I don't think modern kids appreciate,
I mean, again, I know, because I've got them,
and my kids have been around during an Olympics,
and we're never like, let's just sit down
and watch eight hours of sports we never watch.
But that 84 Olympics was, I mean,
I was so excited in the lead up.
I was so excited.
And then it was like-
We had a poster, we had a framed poster
in our basement of the 84 Olympics
that was like in this weird little sort of perfect spot
for a poster.
And is a poster for the Olympics,
like is it a variety of sports
or is it just the ring?
I will tell you, it was a woman's legs
and they were running.
And it was like waist down.
So as a child, like pretty short shorts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why Josh to this day is only into waist down.
Yeah, waist down stuff.
I don't really want to do upper body stuff.
I don't know what goes on up there.
He got married, he made his wife wear a full veil that went all the way down to her belt.
He liked to pretend that it doesn't exist.
Did you go to events when you went to the Olympics?
We did.
As I mentioned before, we didn't have a lot of money,
so we bought the most affordable tickets you could get.
So we went to two events.
One was team handball, which we didn't know was a sport.
I think some of the teams didn't know.
They were just like, they were just hitting a ball around
and they were like, okay, you guys are keeping score?
All right.
And you're with me?
Okay, we're together?
Okay.
And then what about with our feet?
Can I run?
Yeah, definitely.
That was hilarious.
That was the event that I got to go to
because they had to split up.
We had four tickets total.
So two of the kids got to go to, because they had to split up. We had four tickets total. So two of the kids got to go to that.
Two went to the first day of track and field,
which is like all the preliminary stuff,
which sounded gory.
I said this before.
Alexi and I went to, you know, via NBC.
We went to the Vancouver Winter Olympics.
And by the way, it was great, but you go,
when you go to ice skating, like figure skating,
sorry, pairs figure skating, you know?
The first, you don't realize that the people going first
are never going to medal because they're not doing hard enough tricks.
I know they're not called tricks, but...
Yeah, jumps.
So you're watching them, they finish and you're like,
that's the best, they're the gold, baby.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
There you go.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
And we were here for it.
Yeah, you know, they didn't say the Peruvians
could win the gold in figure skating, but those two,
and then as it goes on, you just realize,
there's a lot, at the preliminary level,
there's a lot of people who are just,
they're very happy to be there. Basically just skating. They're just skating. They're kind of like you, they're kind of people who are just, they're very happy to be there.
They're just skating.
They're kind of like you on Broadway.
They're like, we're not gonna look,
this isn't gonna go great.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not sure even where to stand, but,
oh, that's awesome.
But that's cool.
It seems like you're,
they seem like your parents wanted
to give you guys experiences.
Yeah, they did.
My dad and my mom were very adventurous.
And honestly, my mom now has, she goes everywhere.
She travels.
She's a real inspiration.
She's 87.
Oh my goodness.
And she's headed to Eastern Europe for the holidays
and my brother and I were trying to figure out
if we could go with her.
She's still getting around pretty well.
What, does she travel solo or does she travel with friends?
Christmas, Christmas, Christmas, sorry.
I was like, what?
It does seem weird.
I mean, I know what the holidays are, but that's so far away.
But she was planning on going on her own.
Wow.
That's great.
And so fully on her own.
She's not going with like a tour group?
She is now going with a friend.
One of her best friends who was in her 40s actually.
But she was planning on going on her own.
So yeah, I was like, okay, I hope that's the case when I'm 87.
Do you think that she always had this spirit of adventure
and is just taking advantage of it now?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
I think she's...
I genuinely believe that her FOMO is what is prolonging her life.
Right. It's the upside of FOMO is what is prolonging her life. Right.
It's the upside of FOMO.
Yeah.
She spent her youth, her father was a real, real asshole.
And not a physically violent asshole, but just a real dick.
And he didn't really let her do anything.
Her brothers, because they were men, boys,
could go out and do whatever they wanted. And so when she got the opportunity, she has
really taken advantage of it and she stays in great shape to do as much as she can while
she can.
That's awesome.
It's great. it's really great.
If you ever decide to write a book, a self-help book,
or even just do a short Ted Talk,
I think the Upside of FOMO is a really good title.
Yeah, it's a good title.
But when you think about it, you're like,
yeah, FOMO has a bad reputation, but there's also like,
cause I feel like so much of our life is like when we,
you know, if we become too immune to FOMO,
we will just like not do stuff.
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, really, she genuinely,
like we're trying to build this little cabin up
on some property in the woods.
And she's like,
when are you guys gonna build this thing?
And we're like, well, we're trying, we're getting permitting and we're trying to do this thing. And she's like, when are you guys going to build this thing? And we're like, well, we're trying.
We're getting permitting and we're trying to do this thing.
And she's like, all right, well, I got to hang on then.
Look, she's like, I'm not going to miss out on the cabin.
And I'm like, well, maybe I'll just never build the cabin.
But the downside is, of course, when Dunk, my brother and I,
are like, she's like, what'd you guys do yesterday?
We're like, oh, we went and watched the game
down at the bar and she's like,
oh, oh great.
Yeah.
That's the downside of FOMO,
which is not a very good TED talk.
I know.
How old are your parents?
They're 78. 78, mom's 21.
No, no, no, new mom, new mom moms.
But she's very picky, very picky about it.
Real Hollywood dad.
Yeah, they were both born at 48.
So 77.
Okay. And are they travelers?
They are.
And really, you know, we also, you know,
we had these years where right after college,
Josh and I lived in Amsterdam.
And were you part of, you were a boom?
Yeah, we were, yeah.
And they just sort of leapt at, which is no surprise.
I think they would have followed us anywhere
in so far as they wanted to hang out with us,
but they would take trips to Amsterdam
and to the place where they got to be as good a friends
as we were with our Amsterdam friends.
And so we're going in a couple of weeks
and our parents are coming as well.
And I'm bringing my son, but they are great.
And they do a lot of these trips now sort of organized
through Northwestern University, where all of us went
and they're great.
They're out on the road all the time.
It's amazing how often my kids are like,
we should FaceTime them and they're like,
no, they're not gonna pick up.
They got shit going on.
How old is your son?
Now I got a nine and a seven and a three
and I'm bringing the nine.
Is your nine year old, do you have kids, Josh?
I don't.
Okay, is your nine-old interested in comedy?
It's sort of a weird question, but is he?
I think he really likes what I show him.
So I've started showing him Lonely Island videos
and he's met friends of mine like Will Forte
and Kristen Wiig and Andy Sandberg.
And then you say, you wanna see them and stuff?
And I think he's always surprised they were less funny than,
you know, when he sees their work, he's like,
oh, they weren't that funny when I met them.
Like, what?
You know?
Right.
But yeah, so I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, they're aware certainly of what I do, but.
Right.
I'm curious because I took my daughter,
we did for the first time, we'd split up on spring break
and each of us took one of our kids.
And I took my daughter to Chicago and she was 13,
she just turned 13, which I guess is the age
you can go to a show, and took her to Second City there.
And I kind of think that she's interested in it.
Yeah, did she enjoy the show? She really did and she's interested in it.
Yeah. Did she enjoy the show?
She really did and she's still quoting,
everybody was great, you know.
Yeah.
Not, I mean, it was a sketch night
and there was a little bit of short form stuff,
but all just really fun, really fun
and really like sparked her in a way.
Well, I feel like also Second City in Chicago or like any great sort of comedy theater,
it's so small and intimate and just that sort of cabaret tables set around and it's, you're
part of it.
And I think for, you know, a young teenager to be sort of where clearly like it's an adult
place that you're allowed to be sort of where clearly like it's an adult place.
Totally.
You're allowed to be there. It's cool. It's happening right in front of you.
The laughter is all around you. It's not manufactured.
Yep. Yep. And no censorship. Like they're really like, it was awesome that her laughs were extra
hard at the stuff that she knew. She was just 13 enough to be in the room for.
We're gonna do, Josh and I are gonna do an improv show
when we're back in Amsterdam and I'm gonna bring Ash.
And I'm more nervous about doing comedy in front of my son.
Like, my old comedy partner and our friend, Jill Benjamin,
like she's like, which bits should we do?
And literally all I'm thinking is like,
what will score with a nine-year-old?
Yeah.
By the way, that's all my schtick at home,
is like, it's all the lowest hanging fruit.
Like, I don't do anything that's legit at all funny
around my house.
It's all fart jokes and tripping and falling over things.
By the way, I genuinely love, so let me just say that.
I mean, that stuff plays pretty well.
It's pretty great.
It's evergreen.
It's evergreen, yeah.
Sometimes in my audience, I'll do a Q&A
and they'll be like, do your kids think you're funny?
And I'm like, yes, but what I do to make them think I'm funny,
you wouldn't think is funny.
No, no, I'm not proud of myself. I'm not, yes, but what I do to make them think I'm funny, you wouldn't think is funny. No, no, it's, I'm not proud of myself.
I'm not proud of myself.
Yeah.
Do you, how was the split up?
Was it, was it awesome?
It was, it really was actually.
It was really great.
It was a little bit weird off the, right off the bat.
Like it was, we hadn't really like,
you know, the, the, the awkwardness you go through with like a good friend
when you travel or your wife or whatever of like,
okay, now we have to figure out what we're gonna do
and have long downbeats.
But by the end, it was really, it was great.
It was well worth it.
I have-
Where did the other pair go? New York. Okay, great. And what did they do? What was the, it was great. It was well worth it. I have it. Where did the other pair go?
New York.
Okay, great.
And what did they do?
What was the draw?
They went to a couple of plays.
We're big Mets fans, so they were trying to,
they actually didn't get to a Mets game
because they were on a road trip,
but the initial plan was to go to a maths game.
Yeah, well they don't print those schedules in advance.
Yeah, there's no way of knowing.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It's, you know, I'm upset about it.
Like, you know, when you go all the way out to the city field,
it's the only way to find out.
Yeah.
We're here.
Oh, not today, guys.
Bad news, not today.
When you're driving out and you're like, oh, no traffic.
Why don't you try back tomorrow?
And we'll see if they're here.
Are you, I have a question. How did you end up being Mets fans?
We lived in Queens for 12 years.
When did that happen?
I moved there in 99, 98, sorry.
And then my wife and I got together in 99.
So, and we lived in the story of Queens.
So that was the whole beginning of your sort of actor's life was a story of Queens.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, I was there for 12 years and did like the really old-fashioned version
of that life, which is like regional theater,
regional theater, you know, off-off-Broadway,
then off-Broadway, and then two weeks of Broadway,
Seth and Josh.
Well, I read 13 days, so I guess we'll let you round up.
Did, so I remember I saw it with Josh in LA.
It's one of my favorite, you know,
when I think about like movies,
I really enjoyed the experience.
Dawn of the Dead, which is just fantastic zombie film.
Sarah Polly, right?
Yeah, Sarah in it, not directing,
Zach Sder directing.
But she was awesome.
But I guess that's a movie where,
I mean, I think it's the first time I,
you know, as your later work became more prominent,
I always remembered you from that.
But I guess that's a movie.
You just go out and do that movie,
and then you're just right back to,
you know, Astoria and your family.
Right back in Astoria.
And just my wife and I,
and my wife carried us for years.
She worked in real estate finance,
at Credit Suisse in New York,
and paid the bills for five years.
And it was, it really was, it was that classic thing
of like go out, you know, not really regional stuff
at that point, but I would do like an episode of West Wing or something
and then come back and just be unemployed
for a long stretch and just grind, grind, grind.
I mean, in retrospect, they were great times,
but that was terrifying.
And when you know the ending, it's great to know.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but doing one episode of a show,
I always find that like walking back to your car
once you've rapped is one of the weirdest,
loneliest things because you sort of like,
you wave and they might clap you out on set
and then you just go get your stuff
and then you're walking away and sort of,
then there's no one, then you're just.
And you can hear them clapping somebody else off.
Right.
As you're on your way to the car.
Did you, so when you met your wife, obviously,
I mean, so she's in a whole different world than you?
Was she?
No, she was an actor.
Okay, gotcha.
She was an actor.
She was smart.
She was.
She was a smart actor.
She was one of those actors with more than one skill set.
We met doing theater in DC.
Oh great.
Excuse me, at the Shakespeare Theater in Washington DC.
At many junctures in my failings as an actor,
we've sat down and tried to put together a list
of like other things that I could do
and luckily there's been nothing
I literally have no other skill sets and she agrees we've we've been like what what if you like tried to you know
Woodworking or something and she'd be like no
No, you're great at that. Yeah
Lose a couple digits. Yeah, But no, she was climbing that ladder very quickly and
jumped out right before 2008 when everything fell apart,
but she carried us.
I guess when did Modern Family premiere? What year?
That was 2009.
It was 2009, so I was kind of,
the trajectory was sort of like lots of guest spots and then a movie here and there and a play here and there.
And then I got onto a couple of TV shows
that made it about a season.
Right.
You know, and it's just so,
it's so hard to communicate to, like, occasionally
somebody will ask, you know, to talk to, like, young actors.
It's such a hard thing to communicate about just getting
lucky. Like, get lucky?
Like, because the other shows, nothing happened.
Like, you know?
Right. And they had people who wrote them and created them,
who wanted big things for them
and thought they were gonna work.
Yeah, and they were great.
And honestly, I genuinely think that the shows were good.
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing you just realize, you know,
everybody works just as hard on the ones that don't work.
Yeah.
Except for, you know, when you mailed it in for Macbeth.
Yeah.
I deserve that.
I deserve that.
I will say, man, do you sometimes think like, I mean, you know, again, both luck, and I
feel like you also had the good fortune of it went in the order that by the time Modern
Family rolled around, you must, your level of appreciation must have just been, yeah.
For sure, I was in my 40s.
I was in my 40s.
I also don't think it would have gone well
just in general if something like that had happened
when I was in my 20s.
I was just a dipshit.
I'm still the dipshit, but.
I always, yeah.
I started SNL when I was 27,
and I often think if it had been 21,
I think it would not have been a good thing.
You know, I think a little maturity was helpful.
Were you guys always doing improv?
Like from college?
Yeah, from college.
Yeah.
From college, okay.
Yeah.
And were you both at Second City?
No, neither of us.
We both were Boom Chicago.
So we started in Miao, the Northwestern Improv troop.
And then Boom Chicago was sort of modeled after Miao.
And so we both moved there.
Oh, I always thought Boom Chicago was connected
to Second City.
No, it was more-
We did swaps.
They did swaps, I feel like after we were there.
Okay.
It was more that they were Chicago guys
who appreciated that the right city
could support an improv theater.
And even though the Dutch government had their doubts,
they have, you know, they're 30 years into it,
which is amazing.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So many people have come through there.
It's the best.
I have so much admiration for improv.
I've always tried to get as like,
like stolen valor.
I like to get as close to all of my best friends
in LA or at UCB.
And I just love being around them.
I don't want to get out there.
No, I'm terrified.
It is so.
I went, I was in Austin and a friend of ours
from Boom Chicago, Dave Buckman,
has a improv theater in Austin called Coletown Theater.
And I was there for this TV festival and he said,
hey, would you come by the theater?
And I was like, of course. He goes, do you want to improvise with us or just do monologues?
And I was like, oh, buddy, I can't improvise anymore.
Like, you know what, I'm just like, I don't got those skills,
but I happen to tell some monologues.
But it's a lovely night.
It's a fun community to be around with. The burden of having to actually do.
It's so great.
And they're all, Josh, do you still improvise?
Here and there.
Yeah, well, it feels like there's a fitness to it, right?
Yes.
My friends are still in shape
and they don't seem to be traumatized by it,
but the couple of times that I've improvised with them,
I don't think I've slept the night before, you know?
Like I, it really cost me that much, like.
Yeah, I would say my kingdom for a weekly slot
at a theater would be great, because.
Right.
Yeah, because then you do work that muscle out
and you know, when we do this show in Amsterdam
in a couple of weeks, I'm nervous for that already.
Yeah, right.
So, yeah.
Right.
Yeah, I know UCB has gone through a lot of changes,
but my good friends there are now at once a month,
and I think it already has been tougher than once a week.
But yeah.
This has been absolutely wonderful.
What a pleasure, guys.
You have to go through the speed round.
Okay, great.
Also, a shout out that you're in the podcast biz now,
scripted podcast.
Scripted podcast.
Yeah, the good life, loosely based
on your real life story, I wanna say.
Loosely based on that.
Colton Dunn, Boom Chicago alum.
Yep.
He's awesome.
And Jennifer Gardner.
Also, some people who have been on this podcast who are in yours, Jillian Bell.
Yep.
Paula Pell, Amber Ruffin.
Yep.
Ego.
Ego, Bobby Moynihan.
Bobby Moynihan, a bunch of super funny people who just made it way better, way better.
That debuts on July 3rd.
Yeah, thanks.
Check that out.
Excited about it.
And here we go, the speed round.
You can only pick one of these.
Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?
Adventurous.
But not, oh no, that's more than one word.
Go ahead.
What's your favorite means of transportation?
Feet.
If you could take a vacation with any family,
alive or dead, real or fictional,
other than your own family,
what family would you like to take a vacation with?
The Riley Wilborns, our dear friends
who we travel with every year.
Excellent.
Jason Wilborn's a writer on Paradise.
I don't know if you guys know.
Oh, yes.
I love Paradise.
Well done.
Yeah.
If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would
it be?
Oh, my God.
My bride, my lovely bride.
Good call.
Very good.
Holly Burrell.
I did that right, right?
Yep.
Yeah, you did that right.
Especially since she carried your ass for five years. Yeah. My, my bride, my lovely bride. Good call. Holly Burrell. I did that right, right?
Yep.
Yeah, you did that right.
Yeah.
Especially since she carried your ass for five years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You are from Applegate, Oregon.
Would you recommend Applegate, Oregon
as a vacation destination?
Yes.
All right.
For sure.
Yes, it's amazing.
It's now very bougie though, just before.
Okay, yeah.
Okay, well some people, they now say holler.
Holler.
They hate our Yash.
Yeah.
And then Seth has our final questions.
Have you, Ty Burrell, been to the Grand Canyon?
Yes.
Was it worth it?
It was.
We rafted the upper section of the Grand Canyon which was a you know
all told about two weeks what the the significant part of that trip is that I
really talked my wife into going on that trip and by the end of it I was so
traumatized by the rapids that I wanted to find a way out of the canyon and my
wife it actually changed my wife, it changed her life.
She fell in love with it and is now super outdoorsy.
Because of that trip.
It was a wild, wild thing.
And I really was like, we need to get out.
We have kids, we need to get out of here.
Does she continue to do stuff that scares you?
No, she's not really like an adrenaline junkie,
but she really, really pursues being outdoors now.
That's great.
Which happened only like seven or eight years ago.
That's great.
It's kind of awesome.
Yeah, anytime somebody can find a new thing later in life,
because we know she wouldn't do woodworking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This has absolutely been a delight, Ty.
It's so lovely to see you guys.
Thank you guys.
Thank you.
You too.
Thanks, it's been a real pleasure.
Enjoy the rest of the wonderful Utah day
you've got coming up.
I will, you too.
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would wait another day.
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pretty sure his daddy cussed.
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San Diego what a bust
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