Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers - WENDI MCLENDON-COVEY Heard Whales Sing in Maui

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

Wendi McLendon-Covey joins Seth and Josh on the pod this week! She talks all about growing up in Long Beach, CA (and just how close to the actual beach it really is), her disdain for water skiing and the houseboat they kept parked at home, what vacationing with her Dad was like, her favorite memories in Hawaii, hearing whales sing in Maui, and so much more! Plus, she talks about her new show, St. Denis Medical, now on NBC! Watch more Family Trips episodes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlqYOfxU_jQem4_NRJPM8_wLBrEEQ17B6 Family Trips is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Theme song written and performed by Jeff Tweedy. -------------------------Support our sponsors:NissanFamily Trips is brought to you by the All-New 2025 Nissan Armada. Take youradventures to new heights. Learn more at NissanUSA.com AirbnbVisit airbnb.com and book today -------------------------About the Show:Lifelong brothers Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers ask guests to relive childhood memories, unforgettable family trips, and other disasters! New Episodes of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers are available every Tuesday. Executive Producers: Rob Holysz & Jeph Porter Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Coordinating Producer: Derek Johnson Mix & Master: Josh Windisch Episode Artwork: Analise Jorgensen

This episode of Family Trips is brought to you by the all new 2025 Nissan Armada. Because going big never goes out of style. Learn more at NissanUSA.com. Here we go. Hi Pashi. Hi Sufi. You are in your childhood bedroom. I sure am. Shout out to On Air Fest, which is a wonderful podcast festival, that we did a live podcast,

our first live podcast this past Friday. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know when we'll release that episode, but it was fun. It was fun to do in front of people. It'll be fun for you, the listeners, to say, would I have laughed more or less than the audience at any given moment? I don't know. Yeah.

I wish I recalled just waves of laughter, but I don't think, yeah. I wish I recalled like just waves of laughter, but I don't think I recall that. I think it was a nice comfortable amount of laughter. I don't know, I'll have to listen. This isn't a straight jokes podcast, you know? We're also, you know, sometimes the comedy is sucked out of it by your adherence to only talking about trips. So anytime you hear the audience not laughing,

just know that was because Josh was, they, he would shame them with a face. Yeah. Well, as you know, the best way, the best SNL laughs are talking about previous SNLs. It's not watching the show, it's just- By the way, I mean, the weekend Josh had to suffer through.

Josh, because we did the On Air Fest and then Pashi spent the weekend with my family and it was amazing, but we socialized a fair amount and it was basically the week after the SNL 50th. So I even did say to you, I want to apologize in advance. Yeah, because everyone did want to talk to you about it. And it was a, and rightfully so. Like it was a cultural moment that you were a part of and they weren't.

And everyone sort of wanted to know the goss and what it was like for you. And yeah. And as much as I would love to say right now that you were real ass-ache about it, you were super cool. And I remember you even said, no, I totally understand, of course. And I tried. Would you say the most embarrassing moment of the weekend was when I tried to make a toast?

It was the best. I mean, there was a moment at an earlier party with kids where I was at a bumper pool table with your daughter and we were just sort of like bouncing balls around. And then my, our brother-in-law, Tolya walked in and she just said, Tolya, I'm peeing. And she just like started peeing. Yeah, fully, she'll do that every now and then.

Right, so I think that was embarrassing, but also not as, maybe not as embarrassing as your toast. Well, the thing about a toast is you get everyone's attention. Yeah, quite the classic way to do that is- Is you hit your glass with a piece of silverware. And by the way, I had no intention to make a toast. We were just at a lovely dinner party.

And my friends Ian Courtney had made an incredible meal. And then my friend sitting next to me said, oh, you should make a toast and thank them for this incredible meal. And I would say there were about, you know, very amount of people there. And anyway, I held up my wine glass and I tapped it three times.

And I would say on the second tap, it shattered into a thousand pieces. And then I dropped it and it landed on my plate. My plate split in two. It sure did. Yeah. Yeah, then you like, there were tiny bits of glass and you went into the kitchen

and got like a fistful of paper towels. I've already gotten shamed by other people there. I've already received texts today saying, we keep talking about how you thought the proper way to address tiny pieces of glass was paper towels. Like also, and like a fistful of them. So you were just gonna like grind them into the tablecloth or the table or-

There's no, I was spinning out. Yeah. And because I would imagine fairly everyone is jumping to the conclusion that I maybe had one too many. I hadn't had any. Yeah. I'm in the midst of a dry February.

Do you think it's a, it basically is you telling the world you have a drinking problem when you wait till February because it's three days shorter? Yeah, shorter month. Yeah. Also it's the one no one's doing. Yeah. It's like a lot of people do dry January,

they do dry July cause it rhymes, but dry February is like, wait, what? It's, I don't know. I think I'm kind of a trailblazer. Well. People do dry January, they do dry July, because it rhymes, but dry February is like, wait, what? It's, I don't know, I think I'm kind of a trailblazer. And I also, January, we've talked about this, there are a lot of intense stuff happening in January. Yeah. I'm very impressed you managed to get through it.

So I drank my way through January, and then dry-fept my way into the most embarrassing toast I've ever given, where it was, and I fully went on tilt for the rest of the evening. Yeah, but it was fun. It was really nice to spend that weekend with you and your wife and your kids and yeah. There was one other embarrassing thing that I got busted for. It was during the dessert course and it was a delicious piece of cake. And I had basically eaten 90% of the cake

when I, when, when Toastgate happened. And so, you know, Glass covered again, the final 10% of my cake. And so when I went in and the host handed me a new plate and she said, oh, don't worry about it. And I was so apologetic. And then she said, oh my God, I bet Glass got all over your cake. And I said, it did. And she gave me a't worry about it. And I was so apologetic. And then she said, oh my God, I bet glass got all over your cake.

And I said, it did. And she gave me a whole nother piece. When I sat back down, the people were like, wait, did you also get, they thought, they acted like the whole thing had been a ruse for me to get a second piece of cake. Yeah, well, if it's any consolation, your wife, Alexi noticed that I wasn't eating my cake because I'm a vegan

and I wasn't gonna just say, don't put this in front of me as someone put a little plate down. And during all that kerfuffle, she just snatched my piece of cake and put it on her plate. So that's a, yeah, she would see that as an opportunity to get some. And she painted it as doing me a favor.

Right. So it didn't look like I was being rude. Rude about the cake. Yeah, she was doing herself a favor in my book. It was a chocolate ham cake. You hit the slopes with my kids. I hit the slopes of Mohawk. Although you didn't really get to ski much with our kids.

No, cause they had stuff going on. They were at ski school. Yeah, your eight year old had a race. My eight year old had a ski race. His first run was 29 seconds. His second run was 26 seconds. Yeah. These are slower than average, I would say.

But we were driving home and I said to him, hey, so why do you think, because he was very proud about being faster. Sure. And I said, why do you think you did so much better your second run? And he said in a way that was very thoughtful and completely ignorant to how stupid it sounded.

He said, oh, in the first run, I forgot you were supposed to go fast. Just the amount that he's showing us that competitive sports is not his future. Yeah, they got awards, medals for the three fastest girls and three fastest boys. Fastest girl was the fastest of everybody. Yes, Imogen. She was in Ash's group. And when she took off by the second gate, you were like, oh, this is the fastest The best classes of everybody. Yes, Imogen. And she was in Ash's group. And when she took off by the second gate,

you were like, oh, this girl's cut from a different cloth. She's tucking. I had been, I got stuck, not stuck, but I was skiing with Addie. And so you and Alexi were watching the races. Yeah, and these two girls, there were two girls in that group who came one and two, and they were just, you know, they were pros, little pros.

Yeah. Yeah. And then Ash was forlorn and despondent that he hadn't gotten a medal, and he was a good five seconds off the podium. They sent the final tally of everybody's times. Uh-huh. They sent the final tally of everybody's times. And you could say he was the farthest away from the podium. And he was really mad and his argument was, but I went so fast.

Yeah, it's a problem. It's a problem. And you know, that thing of, he's not, he doesn't have a competitive drive, but he wants competitive glory. And that's unreal. Those two don't line up particularly well. Yeah.

Well, he's just got to crawl up that list wherever he finished, you know, whatever his number was. If there were a hundred kids, let's say he was 60th, let's do him a favor. Sure. Or if you want to say what, 21 of 21. Next year, you could be like, maybe you try to finish 15th next year.

Sure. Try to make top 10. He was the youngest skier. Okay. Although I'm realizing that's absolutely not true. There was his friend. All right, well, yeah. His friend who was a full year young

and then I'm totally smoked up. I'm listening to him now. He's saying, I'm listening to his excuses and I'm just totally buying him without doing any of that. Any of the legwork. And now you're home with mom and dad, which is super rad. Yeah. How is the crazy leak?

Oh yeah, we had a leak that came from the attic into your room and into downstairs. Is it moldy? Do you feel like it's a mold city in there? Or is it okay? No, it's just like there are pieces of the wall cut out and you can sort of see the boards inside the walls and there's plastic taped over them.

So it's, everything looks fine. Okay, good. Doesn't feel damp or anything? No. Okay. It doesn't feel damp, although your room, because of your allergies growing up and your asthma, years ago, and I forget how old you are,

but put in like a little mini parquet floor that looks like the Boston Celtics court. And it seems like the parquet is gonna go the way of the dodo. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah. I thought you were gonna maybe be more sad about that. Well, I feel like I still have trauma

for how angry dad was when he put in that parquet floor. I think when he thought, oh, let's do a parquet floor, he probably thought it was gonna be pretty easy, but it's like very small, like cross hatching. The way I would describe the parquet floor is not flush to the wall. Well, it's definitely not anymore. There's a big chunk of it cut out. This might be an inside job by dad to finally cover up his work.

Yeah. Who's in there just going to town on a pipe. Well, it was so nice to see you. Yeah, you too. I mean, nobody does the East Coast better than you, Pasha. You just roll through town. Oh, can we say real quick, because now I would die, I mean, I would love to have either of them on the podcast, but we went and saw Oh, Mary on Thursday night.

Oh, Mary, if you haven't heard of it, Cole Escola wrote and stars in this incredible 80-minute Broadway show, started off Broadway, and it's basically the story of Mary Todd Lincoln, but when Cole was on my show, the way they described it was, I wanted to write this show without doing any research. So it's a totally off-the-wall, baddie, incredibly memorable, special, unique show,

and then Cole is now out of the show and Betty Gilpin, who is a incredible dramatic actor, but is so funny as Mary Todd Lincoln. And it was- Yeah, she's excellent. And it was a really nice New York City night. You were there for one night and we went out, we saw a Broadway show.

Yeah, then got to do the On Air Fest and then yeah, then I got out of New York just like that. You also got a real best of my mother-in-law Joanne moment. Oh man. It was cold. Freezing cold night. Freezing cold night, the four of us leave the theater and we're, Alexi, again, a woman on a mission at all times. Yeah.

Her mother, by the way, we were talking about her mother. Yeah. She just charges into Times Square, throws a hand up to get a cab. Alexi does. Alexi, going down 7th Avenue. You got, you got waylaid coming out of the door to take a picture with somebody.

So I'm walking with Joanne. Yeah, and then all of a sudden I run up to catch Alexi and I don't see you or Joanne. And then you run up with an update. And what was the update? Joanne had stopped in a bodega. She walked in, she's like, oh, let me grab something real quick.

And when I went back to see what was taking so long, she was looking in a display case of various cakes and pies and pointing to one of them. And the bodega owner was like, you know, cutting a little slice and wrapping it up in wax paper and then putting it in a little plastic container. And then there was the, you know. It was 10.30 at night and she was getting bodega cake.

And meanwhile, Alexi is in like in Times Square with a taxi that has pulled over with traffic trying to drive behind that taxi that can't. The only reason Alexi hasn't left is you and I won't get in the taxi. We know that if we get in the taxi, Alexi will slam the door and punish her mother. Yeah, I feel like it was like when Mike Pence wouldn't leave the Capitol or something like that. Yeah, it was, yeah.

We had to do something. She was so- We had to stand up. She was so ready to go. Yeah. And I think it was an incredible act of nobility. For me, the way that I stand up for my mother-in-law, even though my mother-in-law, you know, it should be noted that behavior was insane.

Yeah, she said she also had to get aspirin, but I didn't see that. All I saw was... By the way, guess what? You know who doesn't have a headache? Somebody who's buying bodega cake. Maybe the sugar. It's just like some people before they have their coffee, and they're like, oh, a little sugar will calm my head down.

There you go. So it was great to see you. This is a lovely conversation with Wendy McClendon Covey, and we do hope you will enjoy it. With the Myles Brothers family chips. With the Myles Brothers, here we go. Yes! Hello! Hello! Yeah! Have you ever, have you ever met Josh?

I haven't. Very excited for you. I feel like I've been in, I feel like I've been in a couple audition waiting rooms maybe, where it's just like a murderer's row of like the funniest women I've ever seen in my life. And I'm like, oh, this show is going to be good. Wow. But yeah, I feel like I've, I've crossed your path there, but I don't think I've ever said like, Hey, I'm like, oh, this show is gonna be good. Wow. But yeah, I feel like I've crossed your path there, but I don't think I've ever said like, hey, I'm Josh.

You guys sound exactly alike. Yeah, it's a problem for a podcast. Wow. I love it. You're in the catbird seat though, because you can see us. I sure can. Yeah, it's easier for you than our listeners for sure. Are you, real quick, it is very exciting

because, and I said this to you, and we talked about it the last time you were on my show, like you're on like an old school 20 plus episodes to come right now. And I am just so happy they still exist and I'm so happy you're on one. Congratulations. Thank you so much.

And we just got renewed for a season two and it just sounds like things are picking back up again across the board for the industry. And God, I just wanna see actors working right now. And St. Dennis Medical is a big old ensemble. And so those are fun too. So you have a lot of actors working on one show. Yes, it's gorgeous.

And a lot of guest stars coming in and out and it's so much fun. This is, it's a Justin Spitzer show who we went to college with. You did? I was in, he was in the college improv troupe with me. He's, I want to say one or two years younger than me, but yeah, we were- Oh my God. We were in Meow, the Northwestern improv troupe together

and we're just back for like- Oh, you went to Northwestern. We all, we did, our parents did. Gosh, the legacy of greatness that comes out of Northwestern. Go Cats. I mean, consistently churning out like the best actors and performers and Northwestern,

it's like, wow, why didn't I go there? Well, you didn't have to. Maybe. Because somebody who went there made a show for you. Oh, that's true. Well, all right. You were not even better. I'm still benefiting.

You didn't have to spend a winter in Chicago, so you did far better. That's true as well, that's right. Plus you met your husband in college? Yes, in community college, which is not a flex. But that is where we met, and it seems to have stuck. Did you meet because you were both actors? No. I didn't really do any college acting.

I was more of a dancer back then. Got it. And, but no, we met because we were in a class together and we became lab partners and we're still partnering. That's great. Yeah. Excellent. 31 years later, still working. Where is, born in Bellflower, California, where is that?

So that's about six miles away from where I currently live in Long Beach, California. So it's just inland, you know, it's a little city that used to be full of orange groves and dairies and things like that. And I'm trying to think who, there's some notable people that were born at my hospital. Like the Octomom, the Octomom had her litter there.

So yeah. And a lot of people were born at the hospital. I mean, yeah, she ups the average. Yeah, yeah, she does. And was it a peaceful place to grow up? It sounds, Bellflower sounds very peaceful. Yeah, very peaceful. It's called the friendly city.

But I think now it should be called the city of apartments because that's basically all that's there. And automotive stores and churches. But yeah, I didn't live there for very long. We moved down the street into Long Beach and I've stayed here for the rest of my life. But my grandparents lived there and I stayed with them a lot.

So, we had a very nice childhood of summers just hanging around old people. So that, so summer would happen and you would just go chill with your parents? I saw your grandparents and Bellflower. They watched us because my parents worked. Got it. Yeah. And yet, and yet, there were so many times

when I remember being, you know, cause I'm Gen X. Yeah. So we didn't have babysitters a lot of the time, but my grandparents did this for free. But when my parents needed to go out or something, I remember being left as a seven-year-old with my little sister.

And we were fine. Yeah. I mean, I guess, were you told, don't go outside, don't open the door for anyone? Was it like... Exactly. We're gonna be gone for two hours. Don't light any matches.

Uh-huh. Don't open the door for anybody. And it was fine. We watched TV, we, you know, beat each other senseless. It's so, I mean, so, I mean, part of it, I guess, is maybe New York City is more dangerous than Bellflower. So begin with that. But I remember I had my two boys

and they were watching a movie and I had ordered dinner for them. And I got a call being like, Hey, we're not delivering, can you come pick it up? And it was like two blocks away. And the amount of stress I had at just leaving my kids in an apartment, in a building with a doorman, like so much would have to go wrong. But they were, it was fine.

But I was just heart pounding for two blocks. And then I remember again, same thing, Josh and I, our parents left us alone all the time. All the time, all the time. And how old were your kids when you had to make this great escape to get the dinner? Like one week old, no. They were, I shouldn't have done it.

What's he gonna do? Just lay in the bass? No, they were like, it was like last year. So they were. I shouldn't have done it. See, what's he gonna do? I shouldn't have done it. Just lay in the bass and. Yeah, yeah. No, they were like, it was like last year, so they were like seven and five, same thing. And you know, I came back like panting with their burgers and like they didn't notice I was gone. They were just watching TV.

Right, right. I wonder how many New York City doorman are told like, don't let my child leave this building. And like what. Well, we say it all the time, but we're worried about this, that when they become teenagers, we think the doorman are team teenagers.

Oh. Yeah. Like, cause they've watched these kids grow up and they feel very close to the kids. And so when a kid is 16 and like they sleep, they sneak out, we're every, all our parents who have kids that are older, like, yeah, you gotta look out. The doorman are all like teen teenager. Oh my God.

That's so interesting. Yeah. My, my, you know, I have no kids and all my friends have kids. So sometimes the kids will be like, can I tell you something, but you don't tell my mom? And I say, no, I'm telling your mom. If you don't want your mom to know, don't tell me.

I'm not playing that game with you. Unless it's about a surprise party for your mother, then I'll be quiet. And I love that you trust me, but I will tell your mom. Yeah. Do they ever say like, it's about a surprise party for my mom and also, can you buy us two bottles of tequila?

That's it. And then maybe the party's not gonna happen. We're not sure. So when you would spend the summer hanging out with your grandparents, would you spend the night or would you just go for the day because you were close enough to where you grew up? They were close enough? Yeah, just for the day.

Just for the day. And my grandma was a former school teacher and kind of a hard ass. So she's like, that TV turns off at 10 a.m. and then you go outside and you don't come back in until I call you for lunch. And then you go back outside again and you don't come in until 4 p.m. So she made us do things, which was fine.

We had a stage in the backyard. Ooh, wow. We staged pageants and musicals. Was this a physical stage that had been built for the purposes? No, it wasn't. It was an outdoor fireplace that just happened to have a hearth.

But we used it as a stage. It was perfect. And this we as you and your sister. Me and my sister. And what's the age gap there? Three years. Okay, close? Yes, I love her so much.

I worship her. I'm a big fan. She is a family therapist, but she owns a comedy theater. Get outta here. In Portland, Oregon. That actually makes money. Wow.

She works all the time. And she's like a little celebrity out there. When I go to see her, it's like incredible. What a cool thing. Yeah, it's really cool. What's the name, plug the comedy theater. What's her comedy theater called? Oh, it's called the Siren Theater.

Okay, great. And yeah, I went to see her in a show. You know, she started a theater, I think mostly to get her own show. She started a theater, I think, mostly to get her own stuff out there, which I respect, why not? They did a parody of Dirty Dancing and I was like, oh great, a parody. I went out there, I laughed so hard, you guys. I was not even making human sounds.

That's fantastic. She was so damn funny. I was so even making human sounds. That's fantastic. She was so damn funny. I was so proud of her. I practically went on stage to give her a hug in mid show because she was so fricking funny. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Hey, we're gonna take a quick break

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Support for family trips comes from Airbnb. Man, oh man, Airbnb, they've really taken care of us in this podcast. We've had some of our best trips with mom and dad at Airbnbs recently. Absolutely, I feel like I've had some of the best trips in my life in Airbnbs. And you know, I remember we got to the last Airbnb that we stayed at with mom and dad. I walked in the door and you had on a giant dining room table,

you had already set up a brand new board game. Now again, we're a board game family, you've done some research, and it was one of those games with a million pieces, and I feel like there would never be a place in a hotel room to do this sort of thing but it was just laid out ready to go it felt like a home away from home. Yeah I mean if I had done that at a hotel you probably like I'd have to lay it out on a bed yeah and then you'd probably come in and just jump on the bed and mess it all up. I'd be exactly what I would do. Because it would be funny it would be a jerk move but it would also be funny I recognize that. It's nice when you're reuniting, be it with friends

that you used to hang out with, or your family that you used to hang out with, in warm spaces to go to an Airbnb and have that instant connection that you used to have in places that were not hotels. Also, sometimes you're like, I don't know, is this place going to be OK? Well, then you should just try a guest favorite, and you know it's going to be OK.

Because people aren't't gonna find a place that they were not impressed with and say, that's my favorite, so get yourself a goodie. Book your next awesome trip today at Airbnb.com. Were there other kids in the neighborhood around your grandparents that you guys would hang with or could you leave the confines of the yard because it was that kind of safe neighborhood?

Or was it like, just stay in here in the fence? No, we were able to leave and there were kids there. And of course you wanna make friends cause someone always had a pool. Oh yeah. And you need that access. But we also were big roller skaters and pretty good. Uh huh.

You know, pretty damn good. What's like split backwards? What's pretty good, yeah. Is that skate backwards? That's what I wanted to know. Oh, skate backwards, shoot the duck, do all these tricks. Like we were pretty amazing, I have to say. What's shoot the duck?

Shoot the duck is when you go down on one skate and your other leg is out. Oh yeah. So it's a real like sort of squat and kick. Yeah, you go low to the ground. Yeah, but the squat and kick sounds weird. So they called it shoot the duck. Which also sounds weird, but still better.

Totally fine. Still better, yeah. Yeah, so we had kids to play with and it was, and on my own block in Long Beach, we had so many kids. So it was a party in the streets. It was really, really fun, like a free range childhood. And nobody's parents were paying attention. Yeah.

So we were all just getting into it in the street. It was great. Josh is the LA Myers brother. I'm the East coast Myers brother. How far from the beach did you live in Long Beach? Is that a dumb question or is that? No, it's not a dumb question because it sounds like, oh, you must live right on the water. We don't, we can't even see the water.

But we had a ski boat for most of my childhood and we would go water skiing rain or shine every weekend. Wow. So we were, you know, just a couple minutes away. But I hate water skiing. Did you always hate it? I've always hated it. Yeah. I like watching other people. I like pulling in the rope and holding up the flag, but I didn't like to ski because my dad would get so impatient with us. Like, come on, come on. And it was like, well, I don't wanna do this to begin with.

So you can just take my turn if you're in such a hurry. Did he want you to reach a certain level to like compete? Was it something like that? I think he just wanted me to get up at all. Okay, I see. You know, but I hated it. I absolutely hated it. So that, your dad loved it so much

that the thing that you could also do in Long Beach, he wanted to take a second trip to a different place to do the same thing. Yes, yes. What was the difference in the water skiing quality when you got to Lake Powell in Long Beach, he wanted to take a second trip to a different place to do the same thing. Yes, yes. What was the difference in the water skiing quality when you got to Lake Powell versus Long Beach? It was so much better. It was like, cause you know,

the Lake didn't have a lot of congestion, a lot of boat congestion. Right. So you weren't, you weren't like trying to dodge other skiers at the same time. Yeah, that's not an element anybody wants. Yeah, and any boat owner knows the worst thing you can do for a boat is put it in saltwater.

So, you know, being on a freshwater lake was optimal. And my dad, he was really good, I have to say. An amazing skier. So it was mostly just his thing. And we had a great time, you know, swimming and doing things on the lake. But again, I hate water skiing. I so I also would love to just tee off on water skiing real

quick, Josh. Yeah, you know, go go go. I also don't like water skiing, but I will do it to stop having to watch other people water ski because that might be the thing I dislike even more. So I cannot believe that you find joy in watching people water ski. Now that will all change when my kids get up and they came really close this summer. I will love watching. Really?

But sometimes my wife who's an excellent water skier will say- True, can confirm. She'll say, I'm gonna go take pictures. So I have to take pictures of her water skiing. Each one looks identical to every photo I've ever taken of her water skiing. Yes. And then she comes back on the boat

and looks at him and is disappointed with the work I've done as a water skiing photographer. And I hate, and I, it's so boring watching people water ski, also I think it is very boring to water ski. Josh, I'm gonna just say it, I can get up on one ski. I'm not a bad water skier. You know, I don't think I maybe look as graceful as my wife, but I can water ski.

The whole time I'm water skiing, I'm thinking what, to what end? What is this for? I'm just being pulled. Why are we doing this? I just don't, and at least with skiing, skiing, I know I have to get to the bottom to be done. But when I'm in the lake, I'm like, I can let go at any time and this could just be over.

Yeah. And someone can just circle around and pick you up and you say, don't make me just be over. Yeah. And someone could just circle around and pick you up and you say, don't make me do this again. Yeah. One more time? Now I always found, I never tried getting up on one ski, but I feel like that would be so much easier than two skis.

Yeah. And I always want beginners on two skis. It's just more, all you're gonna do is, I don't know, do you catch an edge on water skis? Like I would assume. No. You just end up doing the splits and falling face forward. I do think for kids it's easier to,

it's just like, there's just a little bit more, but it is, the whole thing is dumb and it's a ripoff and the whole industry is a scam. Thank you. Finally someone said it out loud. But your dad loved it. When did your dad, it. He loved it. Was it something that he did as a kid?

Yes, yes. And you know, we all like to do things that we're good at. So I feel like this was the time for my dad to really say, hey, I'm top dog here. This is why you all respect me. I make money for the family and I ski like a water demon. Yeah. You know? Did the boat and I ski like a water demon. Yeah. You know?

Did the boat live at home on a trailer? Was it like in the driveway? Yes it did. No, it lived in our garage. Okay. Which was a whole procedure. The whole neighborhood knew when we were back in the damn thing to the garage.

Oh my God. Thank God we did water ski. The idea of my dad having to back a trailer into a garage with my mom in the car. Oh dear God. Thank God we did water ski. The idea of my dad having to back a trailer into a garage with my mom in the car. The amount of swearing that went on. And you know, if we had had, it was just a ski boat. So it was fine. It didn't have a bathroom.

It didn't have bunks. You know, you couldn't stay on it overnight. But a lot of people in our neighborhood would park their boats in the driveway and almost use it as like a guest house. Oh yeah. Like, oh, relatives are coming for Christmas, they can sleep on the boat.

Now this is very stereotypical to the way I'm picturing a place called Long Beach is that people just have houseboats in their driveway. Well, there's a lot of that, yeah. You don't wanna put it on the crab grass though, because that's tacky. Just keep it in the driveway. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like royalty does. And don't use it for years and years and years. Yes, exactly. Buckingham Palace, where do you think they keep that yacht? On the driveway. Right smack in the driveway. They don't put it on the grass. Yeah.

And would you guys ever take vacations? Would you leave the cozy confines of Long Beach and Bellflower? Would you ever go further afield? Yes. Well, we went to Lake Powell twice a year. So we would do that, but then- That was twice a year sort of every year?

Every year. We almost moved there. Where did you stay in Lake Powell? But then that was twice a year sort of every year every year Well, there was a time when we would camp which is really fun to fit four people in a camper With a bathroom that you have to walk to okay, so that's luxurious We have a picture of my sister and I sleeping and her foot is in my face. And it was awful. We couldn't move. I don't know why my parents thought this was a vacation. This was just a trip. My mom was miserable the whole time. This wasn't a vacation. It was just housekeeping somewhere else. But then we started staying in hotels and that made it better. But then my dad got a taste of Hawaii

because he won a trip. And then it was, we're selling the boat. We're gonna start going to Hawaii on vacations. So that happened when I was probably a junior. Were you excited about this shift in? Hell yes. Yeah. Hell yes.

I mean, the dining was so much better. Right. The boys. It was just so exotic. I mean, Hawaii. And how would that be an annual? Yes, that was an annual thing. And I have very, I love Maui.

So when all that stuff happened last year with Maui, it was like, no, no. Just terrible. I have so many beautiful memories there, as I'm sure a lot of people do. But yeah, so that was our- How did your dad present to the family that we're a Hawaii family now?

He just said, I'm selling the boat. And that's it. You don't question it. How did he win the trip? It was a work thing. So I think he outsold some people that he worked with. He works for Coca-Cola. Okay.

So I think he won like a sales prize or something like that. Went with my mom. Again, we were left alone to get ourselves to school. Oh, they went on a school week. Oh yeah, on a school week. My grandparents would check in, but we were mostly alone and it was fine.

Wow. You know, we had no parties. We didn't do anything terrible. Did our homework, got everything done. And he was like, this is it. This is what we're doing forever. Great. It was fine with us.

And always Maui? Yes. Maui rocks. Have you been to the other islands or do you, you're sort of so committed to Maui at this point. I've been to Kauai and Oahu, but Maui's my favorite.

It really is. It really is. And what was a Maui vacation? Was it all beach-centric? Yeah, it was, you know, go to the beach all day and even when we're bored out of our minds and sunburned to hell, we couldn't leave until my dad was ready to leave.

And one year, my sister and I got so sunburned on the first day that it ruined the trip. We had to stay inside for the rest of the trip. They had to just leave us in the condo. Oh no, it was really bad. We were glowing in the dark. We could not go out in the daytime. We could only go out after five.

It was terrible. You do seem fair skinned like Josh. Yes. It was a big concern that Josh would overstay his welcome in the sun and ruin the trip for everybody. Oh, would you do that, Josh? I mean, not intentionally, but I would get sunburned. I really don't know why our parents didn't just sort of

like constantly reapply sunscreen. At some point, someone needs to take responsibility for their child. Right. And I would say the same of your parents, Wendy. Like how did you and your sister get so sunburned? Well, yeah, that day was terrible. And we thought, oh, well, we're in the water.

So the rays aren't getting us. Well, that's a big, big no-no. And my sister has kind of olive skin. So she tans really well. I don't, I freckle and I burn. But yeah, since then I've really been very careful, but yeah, it's a problem. And back when I was growing up, skin cancer, what's that?

Yeah. That's something old people get. Yeah. But now. Now it's like, oh, I am old. Yeah, and they're like, hey, you know when you got it? A long time ago. Yeah, exactly.

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all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. So, a long day on the beach. Are you, as a kid, were you somebody, did you like to read a book on a beach or were you always just running around in the water playing games? There was that. And then when I finally got a Walkman,

it was pretty much over. I would just listen to my favorite music and isolate myself from everyone and just listen and think about how George Michael was gonna be my boyfriend at some point. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think a lot of us gals had our dreams dashed with that one, but.

Yeah, I like that, the only problem, if he'd have been straight, everybody, you all would have dated him. We all would have had a chance. Yeah. You know, I mean, come on now. It was already, the deck was already stacked against you being in bellflower.

Being in bellflower and long beach. He's not in the ladies. Strike two. Yeah. Well, anyway, yeah. I really thought that was gonna go my way. Okay, so we went to, my husband and I went to Maui one year for Christmas.

And I've never ditched out on the family at Christmas ever, ever, ever. But this one year we were like, screw it, let's get out of here. I don't wanna deal with Christmas this year. So this is ditching out on your parents? On my parents, on my in-laws, on everybody. So this was right around the time of,

I was starting to get whispers in my ear about, you should be on the Goldbergs. We want you for that show. So Christmas Eve day, we went kayaking at the crack of dawn near McKenna Beach. I don't know if anybody knows where that, it doesn't matter, but we're kayaking. And we start hearing whales singing.

It was the most magical thing in the world. We're out there with our guide. There's no one else on the water. We're hearing whales sing and we see a mama whale push her baby whale up and the baby whale kind of unfurls its fins. And it was like, oh my god, this is a sign. I'm not supposed to spend Christmas with my family. Exactly. The sea is calling to us.

Nature is trying to tell me. Then we got in the middle of a pod of spinner dolphins who were, when they're in a trance spinner dolphins kind of go into a sleeping trance and you see them just sort of emerge from the water and go back down. So they're like swimming in a little pattern altogether in a group, but they all woke up at once and were spinning and flipping all around us. We were right in the middle of it. It was insane. And I'm like, this is the most magical thing

we've ever been a part of. And I'm gonna take this to mean I should take that job with the Goldbergs. And I did. And I did. This tells you, there was a time where there was so much money in Hollywood that if you wanted someone to take a part,

you could pay for dolphins to surround their paddleboard. You could pay the sea life. Their kayaks, yeah. You could pay the sea life to close the deal. Exactly, because a lot of Hollywood people flocked to Maui for the holidays, and that is not a joke. It was like, oh my God, I can't believe how many people.

You've described, I feel like, an acid trip of the different marine life that came to... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it almost be at this point you're like, and then a seal popped his head up and said, do the Goldbergs.

Yeah, I have a message. I have a message from ABC. You just did the Goldbergs job. Have you done a Christmas with your family since then or? Oh yeah. I mean, they're down the street. Yeah. I was just wondering're down the street. Yeah. I was just wondering if like that was such an experience

that you're like, all right, never again. Never again with the family. So your parents are still, how far away do you live now from where you grew up? The house you grew up? About three or four miles. Amazing. And are your parents in that house?

In the house we grew up in. Yeah. Was this something, do you think if you had gone back to your 16 year old self, let's say, do you think you were someone who was so content with where you grew up that you would have predicted this or is this sort of, are you surprised looking back and being like, oh, look at this?

I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. And I don't know why I can't leave here, but I can't. Right. Do you think you would have left if your dad still had the boat and was making a water ski? Yes.

Yeah. So really he's the reason. I definitely would have moved to the South Bay. Yeah. Redondo beach or, which is again down the street. But no, I, yeah, I can't leave for some reason. And again, I love my family. They drive me a little crazy, but that's how families are.

But like, I feel very responsible for my parents now that they're older. And I keep trying to tell them like, you're going to live with me at some point, so emotionally prepare yourself. And I don't think they want to, but I don't care. Will it be your rules when they're coming to live with you or there'll have to be some sort of a summit? I think I'm gonna let them do whatever they want

as long as they don't burn anything down or just walk in on me in the bathroom. But like, I don't want to put them somewhere where they're gonna be unhappy. Do you mostly want this just so you can repay the favor of leaving them home alone without a sitter? That you can just be like, don't light any matches. I'm going out for two hours.

Fend for yourself. You, you nailed it. Yeah. You nailed it. I want us to finish the way we started, which is yelling at each other on the couch in front of the television because that gives me a warm, toasty feeling. Do, is your husband from California as well? Is he from the area? Yes. Yeah.

Great. Yeah. He lived in a wealthier area, again, down the street. We went to rival high schools, but didn't meet till college. But his family, his mom is still with us and she lives nearby as well. So the same goes for her.

I don't want her going anywhere. I don't want to put her in a facility. I want them here with us. I mean, you're the dream. Let me just say, you're the dream of a daughter. Well, I love them. All right, well you're saying it now. I love them so much.

I love them so much and I cannot bear the thought of, I mean, cause we just went through this with my grandma being in a facility and it was like, all you do is fight with those people. Like, can someone get in there and give her a bath, please, more than twice a week? Like, it's ridiculous and it costs a fortune and the care is not great.

And I don't, oh God, that breaks my heart to think about that. Although if they just want that, I'm not gonna stand in their way, but I don't know why they'd want that. I mean, everything you say rings so true to me because I feel very strongly that when my parents get older, they're gonna live with Josh.

Oh, I think that's great. You're thinking forward, Seth. By the way, their preference, their preference. It should be noted. Do you have an ADU? Well, I forget what that is. It's a something dwelling unit, but like, will there be a little outbuilding

that they'll be in or will they be in your, up in your business? Will they be like down the hall? We can have them in the house. Okay, all right. You know, we have the room, if they would prefer an ADU. Right, you could get that.

We can make that happen as well. Pick out the Amazon tiny home of your choice and we'll put it up in the backyard because some of those things are cute. How do your parents get along with your mother-in-law? If they were all there at the same time, is there friction? No, they get along well.

Okay, that's great. Especially the moms. Uh-huh, great. The moms even look alike weirdly. They kind of look like sisters, but yeah, they get along very well. And everybody's sharp. You know, no one's lost their marbles.

But anyway. Do you take, have you done trips with all of them sort of later on now in life? No. And I proposed that once. Actually, no, that's not true. We did go with my in-laws to Washington DC for 9-11. We got there on 9-10.

The 9-11. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, that was our first trip to DC. We were gonna go to DC and then Manhattan. And the next day I'm awake, I'm listening to Howard Stern. And I hear that the Twin Towers had been hit. And then we hear the Pentagon.

We were near the Pentagon. Okay, this is turning dark. Anyway, yeah. This is the opposite of a pod of spinner dolphins as far as the message that was being said. Exactly. Like do not go on vacation with both sets of in-laws. Oh, so yeah, that was when we went with my husband's parents

and that was the only trip we ever took together. Yeah. Again? Yeah. So let's not do that again. When you traveled to Hawaii, I would imagine, it sounds like you're the sort of family that's close enough. Were you all in the same room

or did you and your sister have your own room? We rented a condo, so yeah. Gotcha. There were two bedrooms and two bathrooms, which is- I feel like it's weird how long we all shared a room. Don't you think, Josh? Yeah, but we weren't staying in like condos very often. We were always in hotels and I- But it was like one room, right? No, we did that too. Josh. Yeah, but we weren't staying in like condos very often. We were always in hotels and I-

But it was like one room, right? No, we did that too. Yeah. Yeah. Two beds, four people. Two beds, four people. That's how we rocked it. And one bathroom. Dear God. I mean, I guess it just would be crazy to expect

that mom and dad would like double the cost of the hotel just for us to have a little privacy. Exactly. Or for them, I guess really for us to have a little privacy. Exactly. Or for them, I guess really for them to have privacy. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like at some point we had like connecting rooms. Yeah, that seems later. That makes sense.

Yeah, that was later. But that also, yeah, that's always a fun thing. I thought they would want their own room to bicker in private, but it turns out they kind of like doing it with an audience. I think it only resonates for them if other people get to see it. Yeah, you need to have witnesses.

Did you ever travel overseas as a family when you were little? No. We never did. Never did, never did. And I don't know, I kind of love that we didn't. Road trips are really fun for families. You make a lot of memories

and even though some of them are miserable, you laugh about them later. Sure, you get in a fist fight in the back seat and your mom turns around and smacks the both of you, but that's fun. It is fun. It is fun. It is fun. And so the term yacht rock, like that resonates with me because we listen to

that music on our boat. Yeah, it wasn't a yacht, but like I have such fond memories of listening to Boz Skaggs, you know, I mean, I'm real happy that a Long Beach dad in the 80s was, you know, in late 70s, early 80s was putting on Yacht Rock. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My dad had excellent taste. Yeah. Christopher Cross, Fleetwood Mac.

I just watched the Netflix documentary on Yacht Rock, and it's worth a watch. It's great. It's great. It's a Bill Simmons doc, and it's worth a watch. Oh, how about that? It's great. It's great. It's a Bill Simmons doc and it's really fun. And they, yeah, it was, you know, it was a term that was invented 25 years after the genre. Uh-huh. And they do ask, you know, they're like, you know, never before has a genre been created

so far after. But then Fred Armisen points out, like, classical. Like those, it wasn't like, like no one was telling like Beethoven and Bach like, hey, do you guys want to play something else? And they're like, no, no, no, we play classical. That's a very good observation. That's very true.

That's very true. But yeah, that's, that's worth a watch for your, for your yacht rock love. And we were, we took a trip a few years ago, a friend of ours lives in Minnesota and had us like rented a house right on Lake Minnetonka. And when you're out on a boat, there's something about that music that just feels right.

Yeah. You just want to hear Michael McDonald. Yeah. Yeah. My father-in-law, and that's when I'm on a boat, it's on his boat when I'm being subjected to water skiing. A little bit too much country music for me. And I get it. I do think there's a country music fits on a boat,

but I might try to push for a little more yacht rock next summer. Now, where do you go skiing with your in-laws? New England. So it's like Martha's Vineyard. Yeah. Okay. And again. When you say go skiing, to me that implies downhill skiing, but as a water skier, you can say go skiing and you mean water skiing.

Is that getting that right? Yes. Yeah. Well, yeah, that makes sense. I've never been snow skiing. Yeah. Okay. So you would say we're gonna go skiing. You wouldn't say we're gonna go water skiing.

I should say water skiing. I should have to. You don't have to. Yeah. Yeah. I actually don't say it anymore. Okay. Hardly ever. But yeah, I should make that distinction. Yeah. I mean, I think if someone in Long Beach

is like walking out the door being like, we're gonna go skiing, you kind of assume it's probably a water ski. I mean, we are close to the mountains too. Yeah, that's true. Josh skis plenty. All right, I take it all back. Yeah. So you're not, you weren't above taking a camper somewhere,

like out to the lake. Would you ever go to the national parks? Would you ever go to Yosemite or? Yes. Love Yosemite, but I'm, this is a really beautiful thing that I'm gonna tell you. I get car sick really easily. And so getting out of Yosemite is a nightmare for everyone that has to be around me.

Oh. It's not pretty. Yeah. Yeah. It's not pretty, but I do love Yosemite. I love, I'm a tree hugger. I'll freely admit it. I'll just go out and make out with a redwood and I don't care who's watching.

I love critters. Oh, that's critters up there. I love a deer. I love a bear. Okay. Bunny. What if you see a random bunny in the woods? Do you like that or hate that?

Dear God, I'll follow it and end up in wonderland. I've got bunnies around my house too. Yeah. That's great. Yeah, I just love the outdoors and living things as long as I'm covered in sunscreen. Yeah, learned the lesson. Yeah. Joshua Tree, would you do other national parks,

sort of road tripable? I've never been to Joshua Tree. Oh wow. Which is so stupid, it's right there. It's two hours away, I should go there. Yeah, that's pretty great. But definitely, definitely a place for some sunscreen. That's what I hear.

And what is that weird place near Joshua Tree where there's all the graffiti on the mountains and it used to be a manmade lake and now the lake is toxic. Oh, yes, yes, yes. The Salton Sea. Yes. Yeah. That's fascinating.

Yeah. Yeah, because it was like, it was like, and I want to say, I don't know if I'm wrong to say, prehistoric times, but it was like enormous. Yeah, it was, and there were resorts. Yeah. And ski competitions, and now it's just toxic. I think just for our listeners, I wanna clarify,

Wendy wasn't saying there were resorts in prehistoric times. No, the Flintstones. Oh yeah, you're right. Would go there. Hello. From Bedrock, they would go to the Salton Sea. And drive in movies. Yeah.

And there would be like a prehistoric bird with a big beak and you'd put your luggage in there and they'd fly to your room. Yeah. I think the Salton Sea was also the name of a movie. It was. With Val Kilmer. It was, yeah.

Methy, was it like meth druggy undercover? Yeah, it wasn't like, yeah. It's just a weird lawless place now. Yeah. You know, full of meth heads and whatever. It's just everyone fending for themselves and you can go there and climb around and see things, but it's like, you're on your own.

There are no cops. I don't know who you think you're gonna call if there's an emergency. Yeah, I feel like the next season of the White Lotus is not gonna be at the Salton Sea. No. Based on the first three seasons. But it would be pretty cool.

Yeah, it would be. Yeah. Yeah. Wendy, we have a speed round of questions that we ask all of our guests. Let's do it. All right. You can only pick one of these.

Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Adventurous. What is your favorite means of transportation? Car. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family,

what family would you like to take a family vacation with? The Griswolds. Great call. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? My husband. Lovely. You are from Bellflower, California. Would you recommend Bellflower as a vacation destination?

God no. Yeah. All right. It struck me as the- No shame in that. That answer comes up. Visit the river bed. A town of apartments. That was the reason why.

Yeah. And then Seth has her final questions. Wendy, have you been to the Grand Canyon? Yes. Was it worth it? It was more than 45 years ago, so I can't remember. Gotcha. Okay.

Yeah. Didn't leave an impression. What are the, one of the world's great physical impressions and yet it did not leave one? I think we just looked at it and that's it and got back in the car. But I would be interested in like- So you griswalled it.

We griswalled it, yeah. Yeah. All right, well, your honesty is appreciated in the car, but I would be interested in like- So you griswalled it. We griswalled it, yeah. Yeah. All right, well, your honesty is appreciated and it's always lovely to see you. Lovely to see you. Thank you for joining us. Congrats on the show. Josh, I hope I see you in a room at some point.

I hope so too. I know that'll be a good room. Seth, continued success to both of you. Thanks, Wendy. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right, take care, you you. Thanks, Wendy. Thank you so much. All right, take care, you guys. Bye. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. All right. All right.

All right. All right. All right. Come on. All right. All right. All right. All right.

All right. All right. Water. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Water. Water skiing sucks. Skate. Ow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, They'd go boating, so they could watch her ski But she preferred a date on some roller skates Life was so carefree when she was

Shootin' the duck Skate backwards backwards Go down in a squat And kick out the other foot Shootin' the duck More like quack words quack words Ain't nothing wrong If you wanna shoot the duck all day long