Fantasy Football Daily - 10 Burning Fantasy Football Questions (and the Answers You Need) | Fantasy Football Daily 2025

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 10 burning questions that fantasy football managers need answered heading into week eight of the fantasy football season. We're at the midway point. Brett Whitefield, our resident ball knower from fantasy points, one of the best evaluators of NFL prospects in the country at this point, analytics guru and just a resident ball knower, finally back on a podcast with me. It's been way too long. I felt like Brett, we were doing this literally every week, sometimes multiple times a week during the offseason. and now it's like, you know, I talk to you on Discord. It's great to get a little face to face here.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We're going to answer a number of things. First off, how are you doing? What do you have going on this time of year? Oh, man, I'm doing good. We're in the thick of it, right? So data obviously becomes my priority. But I also have my show first read. You can listen to comes out every Wednesday and Friday.
Starting point is 00:01:01 That's with Joe Marino. That shows a banger. I have the Matchup Point show over on John's feed, the Fantasy Points podcast feed with Graham Barfield. that's a great show but yeah man you can find me in here i'm excited to be here theo because you're right we haven't done this in a while in the off season we podcast like every day together but i think the the time away from each other you know when you're like a long distance relationship you end up realizing how much you appreciate that person i think this has caused
Starting point is 00:01:27 us to launch into a new podcast i don't know if we should tease this no so we'll announce this coming up and brett and i have something really really big that's coming up soon-ish that I think you're going to really, really enjoy. If you are a fantasy football fan, if you're a fan of the NFL draft, we're doing something really, really cool together. We'll get a lot more details. We got some really cool stuff to announce with that one, Brett,
Starting point is 00:01:51 and a ton of college football that we've got to watch and sort of get after it. Really excited to do that with you. Fantasy points, listeners already sort of know what Brett and I sort of put out this past off season. We broke down a ton. We had a number of hits here, bread. I mean, you get props on this one. Like Jackson Dart, you've been podcasting with me for multiple
Starting point is 00:02:11 years, even before I was at Fantasy Points, sort of talking about the virtues of Jackson Dart from an NFL level. You were all over that one. The two of us were higher than some people on Quinn Sean Judkins. The two of us were higher than some people on Tyler Warren. And Matthew Golden, analytically speaking, we were higher than some people. He's certainly looking analytically like a guy who could pop over the second half of the season. But we've got to stick with NFL here, a ton to talk about with these prospects down the line. But we got to start off with the two of us talked on Sunday. And I think it's becoming more and more apparent to the two of us here that the Indianapolis Colts are special. And what they're doing this year is unbelievable. My question for you is,
Starting point is 00:02:58 are the Indianapolis Colts the best team in the AFC? And are the Indianapolis Colts the best team in football? Oh, this is. such a great question. Man, so yeah, I think, I want to view this through two lenses. So through seven weeks of football, I think it's fair to say the Colts have been the best team in the league and probably not really close. If we're being honest, they are dumpstering teams. They're not just winning games.
Starting point is 00:03:25 They are absolutely dumpstering teams. They're on the same track, like the 01 Rams were the greatest show on turf, the 07 Patriots, the 2024 Detroit Lions. Like, their win differential. up there with those teams, like some of the best teams in the regular season teams in the history of the NFL. So yeah, so far through seven weeks, they have been the best team in the league. But I will like to point out, the guy wins over Miami, Tennessee, the Raiders, the Cardinals. They haven't really been tested yet. And I know they got the Titans again this week, who I expect
Starting point is 00:03:56 them to completely dumpster. But then things get a little tougher after that. Steelers, Falcons, chiefs, Texans, Jaguars, Seahawks, 49ers, Jaguars again, this could be a really, we could see kind of a, I don't want to say a 180, I think this team is for real, but I do think the schedule gets harder. We will find out if this is legit or not, you know, even if they regress a little bit, I think they would still be pretty legit. So one thing I will say about the Colts, not to belabor my point here, the way this team is constructed, they are not a team you want to get behind on. If they take a lead on you in a game, they are set. up to dominate you because they have a great offensive line, a great run game with Jonathan
Starting point is 00:04:36 Taylor, and a defensive line that has six or seven really good pass rushers that can pin their ears back and get after it. So if you find yourself in a negative game script against them, this is a really bad recipe. I don't think teams will catch them from behind a lot, but I do think the competition gets stiffer down the stretch here. Yeah, I think that's a great point. And they do get Tennessee again this week in a game that they might win that game by 30 points. I know the line is something like 15, but that could be a hang in number on Tennessee. You almost as a divisional opponent, you have to wonder in the back of their minds. They're like, hey, maybe we, you know, cool the jets in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:05:12 So if the situation gets reversed a couple of years from now, Tennessee doesn't do the same to us. Because there's no reason Indianapolis can't do whatever they want to Tennessee this week. This also might be Indianapolis as the number one defense to stream this week on top of start every single Colt. And, you know, people are going to raise an eyebrow at us mentioning the greatest show on turf. But that Rams team averaged 33.8 points per game. And this Colts team is averaging 33.1. And to put that into a little bit of perspective, Ben Johnson and your Detroit Lions last year averaged 33.2 points per game in 2024 and were viewed as just this monumental
Starting point is 00:05:53 scoring offense. the Lamar Jackson MVP, first MVP season for the Lamar in 2019 Ravens, average 33.2 points per game. So that's sort of where we're at with this Colts team. It's unbelievable. It's one of the best offensive turnarounds I think we've ever seen. actionable takes here. It's not really a lot to talk about because Daniel Jones already being rostered as a QB1.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Jonathan Taylor might be the league winner at the running back position, considering the price tag you paid on him versus B. versus CMC versus Jumeer Gibbs for that matter. You're getting Taylor around that two, three turn for a lot of the summer. The player I'm curious, and obviously Pittman is having a very good bounce back year, the player I'm curious to get your take on, not even on the show sheet. But I talked about him with Joe Dolan and Tom Brawley. It feels like you're going to see some spike weeks coming out of Alec Pierce in these next few weeks.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Just a very solid player. He had 10 targets this past week, five catches. is your thoughts on Pierce as sort of do we start using these tertiary pieces of the Colts offense, sort of trying to chase these spike weeks and what's just a team that's scoring automatically. I non-sarcastically ask both my staff at Fantasy Points Data and my podcast host, co-host and Joe Marino, is Alec Pierce the best deep threat in the NFL? Legitimately, I'm asking. Like, it's not crazy to say that he is.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I mean, maybe Jameson Williams, but teams play him a certain way. I think it's Alex Pierce, man. And so, yeah, you're going to see Massa Spike Weeks, especially, I think as the competition does get a little tougher down the stretch and they're going to have to score. I think there will be more of an onus on them to score points later in the year than there was in the early part of the year. We haven't even really seen a Daniel Jones 45 dropback game yet. What does it look like when we see that, you know? So, yeah, for sure. I think it's a great call.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And I think that's a really good segue sort of to our next question. And I'm going to bounce around our show sheet a little bit here. But we mentioned Daniel Jones. And this has been a trend, Brett. We saw Sam Darnold leading Seattle to a really big start here. Obviously, Baker Mayfield has been an unbelievable, successful turnaround quarterback in Tampa Bay viewed as really one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL after being sort of on a journeyman track where starts a single game for Sean McVeigh has a period of time in
Starting point is 00:08:27 Carolina. Like Baker was on a transient track and now looks like a like a really just a locked in QB1 for the next five years or as long as he can kind of hold up here. Is this the era of the bounce back quarterback in the NFL? A franchise moves on and a new environment sort of spurns change where a guy finds his footing and excels. We're seeing it more and more often. We've talked about this behind the scenes. Just what's the reason for this? A lot of times in the past, it seems like when a guy moves on, you'd say, oh, there's a reason this franchise is moving on from this quarterback. Let's stay the hell
Starting point is 00:09:05 away. In fact, on the opposite track now, I am very like find these quarterbacks that are getting second chances way more appealing from like a fantasy lens, from a dynasty lens. They're all beating their ADP, well, not all of them, but a lot of them are beating their ADP and a lot of them become dynasty like locks in your lineup for years to come. Yeah, so I strongly encourage the listeners to go to First Read Wednesday show
Starting point is 00:09:32 for this week. Joe and I did 30 plus minutes on this topic alone. I think what you're seeing, it's a combination of a lot of things. So we have, in a league where there's no patience whatsoever from a lot of these teams, right? So there's such an urgency to win, which inherently creates this lack of patience. However, quarterbacks are coming in not ready to play in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:09:55 The college game is so far departed from the NFL game that there is, there's really, it's not even remotely similar, actually. In fact, and I know we'll get into prospect talks on later shows, whatever, but just evaluating this coming up quarterback class, there aren't any guys. No one. do NFL-centric things. It's crazy. And this is going to be a common, this is going to be something we have to discuss every year now. And even if you crown a Dante Moore as your QB1,
Starting point is 00:10:22 that's fine. I can get on board with some of the traits. But the developmental curve needed from him to go from what he is right now to a legitimate NFL starter is so extreme. And head coaches, often that are picking quarterbacks in the first round, they do not have time to wait on that. And you're going to see quarterbacks get, you know, chewed up and spit out.
Starting point is 00:10:43 fast. You mentioned the guys you did. We didn't even mention a Zach Wilson. I think he's next probably Mac Jones. Like it's going to keep happening. Anthony Richardson's going to be next. Bryce Young probably after him. Like it's, dude, it's going to keep happening. And it's, it's this combination of this urgency to win and the college game just being so extremely different from the NFL game. It's just, it's a vicious cycle. Would you also agree that it's also in some cases, it's bad franchise, makes bad mistake and smart franchises. Like Tampa Bay always seems to hit recently. Like we can go down the line of the personnel choices.
Starting point is 00:11:21 A Mecca Egbuka, a steel. Bucky Irving, a steel. Jeline Mcmillan, they got him in the third round. Tess Johnson, seventh rounder is getting back-to-back touchdown catches. And of course, Baker Mayfield gets here to Tampa, steps in for Tom Brady, and it's fantastic. Daniel Jones goes from this, you know, dumpster fire. in New York and finds himself first making a pit stop in Minnesota to get that like Kevin
Starting point is 00:11:49 O'Connell effect. And then now he's in Indianapolis and there's this offensive ecosystem around him. Talk about that a little bit. Yeah, I mean, you're, yeah, some of it is like teams that are often picking these players. They're not good teams. They're usually poorly run. They have bad front offices, bad head coaching situations, bad coordinators, teams with no talent. And so the quarterbacks are being thrust into a situation where they're expected to
Starting point is 00:12:16 elevate right away. And a lot of, unless you're truly a special player, you just can't. I mean, just think about like the recent high draft picks. Drake Bay already on a second OC. That one seems to be working now. But Caleb Williams lost his head coach, what, 10 games into his career? Cam Ward lost his head coach six games into his career. Trevor Lawrence is on like his fourth offensive coordinator. Kyler Murray's on like his fourth offensive. These are all the recent number one overall picks. It's insane. And so there's no stability for these guys.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And yeah, it's pretty remarkable. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I love your Mack Jones call. Mac Jones is one where I've talked about this with Scott Barrett. This is one that I think dynasty managers need to roster. Anthony Richardson obviously has traits here, has put up some spike weeks. Obviously, it's not a, it didn't work out in Indianapolis. I think he's definitely getting a second choice.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Just curious, you mentioned Zach Wilson. Talk about that one. this is a guy who a lot of the things he struggles with is very similar to what Daniel Jones struggled with or what Baker Mayfield struggled with. It's the gunslinger mentality of a little bit slow to process things, but he's got a ton of raw ability, was in an absolute dumpster fireover situation in New York, has a lot of starting experience under his belt despite that. And then I look at what's going on in Miami right now. I think Zach Wilson's probably your starter there within the next couple weeks and I know he was the QB3 this past week and I don't read too much into that.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I think McDaniel's kind of a weird guy. But if Stephen Ross is truly going to put his support behind, Mike McDaniel and the relationship between Tua and McDaniel is clearly soured. I mean, they are basically badmouthing each other every other press conference at this point. That switch is coming, right? And so Zach, Mike get a shot here in Miami this year. If it's not this year in Miami, it's going to be somewhere else. Somebody will give this guy a shot to play.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Yeah, definitely an interesting name to sort of keep in the back of our minds. And it's one where a lot of people are going to laugh and put comments. I'm sure on our show, Brett, but Brett, Brett, Brett's really, really good with the quarterback evaluations. And we're going to talk about your guy, Jackson Dart, right after this. All right, Brett, let's talk about this game the other day a little bit, just very briefly. I recapped it already for this podcast audience on Fantasy Football Daily, but maybe the game of the year, certainly the fourth quarter of the year. Denver 33 points scored in the fourth quarter. And it was really just a quarterback celebration where Jackson Dart has just been this red hot start to his starting career or the fantasy numbers he's putting up.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And Bo Nix, who was drafted in a very similar range to Dart in Dynasty Rookie drafts last season, was an instant success story in Denver. And Nix has this like, it's very, it's really funny, Brett. it's like any time that Bo Nix is in control of a game, it seems this year it's like completely vanilla boring. And whenever he trails, he turns into peak Lamar Jackson and he's putting up fantasy number after fantasy number. I wish we could just get that sense of urgency from Bo Nix from the start of a game. But he was special. Knicks finishes as a QB1 overall this week. Jackson Dart finishes as a QB2. We'll throw into this mix. Drake May is the QB3 overall. all on the season. Let's throw these three guys into like a bucket here.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Which quarterback would you like to have? We'll take, you know, I shouldn't have been thrown May into the discussion, but there's, I think this is interesting from a three-year context. Who would you rather have over the next three years if you could put your crystal ball, take a look into it? Drake May, Jackson Dart, Bo Nix. Who is checking off the boxes as the player that can put up not only high-end fantasy numbers but do it for a long period of time here,
Starting point is 00:16:09 a sustainable period of time and at the highest possible level. So purely from a fantasy standpoint. Yeah, I mean, I think Drake May has been the best quarterback in all of football so far this year. So I'll probably go Drake May. I think what he's doing right now with the amount of the load he has to carry himself is outrageous, right? He doesn't have really any weapons.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I know he's got good chemistry with the Kashan Boutte and Stefan Diggs doesn't look completely washed. But let's be honest, like he does not have a legit wide receiver one. He does not even probably have a legit wide receiver two. Hunter Henry is just okay at Tide End. The run game has been so up and down. The offensive line is a disaster still. I think Drake May because he's putting up what he's doing, like the fantasy points he's putting up despite the situation is incredible. And I think as they continue to add talent to the mix,
Starting point is 00:17:07 offensive line like draft capital and money they have both so they'll build the offensive line they'll get him a legit wide receiver run i would love to see them go trade for a chris oliva or a brandon i yuk at the deadline here that would make me so happy but um i think as they increase the talent around him he's going to just keep getting better and better yeah he's he's absolutely fantastic and just a sort of segue back to our trying to predict quarterbacks like we mentioned bow nicks we mentioned Jackson Dart. And what's interesting to me about those two players is just from a prospect lens, Dart goes off at pick number 25. And we saw Bo Knicks in a really strong quarterback class go off at pick number 12. We can go back a little bit. You find Patrick Mahomes
Starting point is 00:17:51 sort of sort of where he was drafted after pick 10. Lamar Jackson, certainly a little later in the first round type guy. Josh Allen. Yeah, Josh Allen. Jordan Love for that matter. number 26, you're finding a lot of these players who are going in that after pick number 10 range having a lot of success. And it's not a perfect, it's not a perfect science here. People are going to be able to point out and say, Yo, Theo, like Kenny Pickett, disaster. There's a bunch of guys who don't check off the boxes here. But some of our biggest success stories were guys going in like this sort of a range. Is it an archetype of looking for college, players who have a ton of college experience and at least some semblance of mobility,
Starting point is 00:18:39 certainly with Knicks and Dart, it seems that way. Both these guys had success with being able to have two-way ability in college, and they come into the league with like 40 plus starts. I do think there's definitely true to that. Like in my evaluations, I value, you know, body of work at the college level. Like if you've got a lot of starts in your belt, I really do value that. I think that's a trend we're seeing. But more importantly, for all four of those guys you just mentioned,
Starting point is 00:19:06 Mahomes, Alan, Jackson, Drake May, they were all drafted by good franchises. All those, like those are historically four of the best franchises in the NFL, and they were all afforded the opportunity to sit to start their career. All four of them. So, I mean, maybe that's the formula. Maybe the rush to have your rookie save you probably isn't the best formula. And for that matter, like we were all sort of pounding the table.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I know I was. And some people were walking me back on that one. But Jackson Dart being thrown out to the wolves in game one behind that bad offensive line would have maybe not been the best process for New York. Certainly the Dallas game would have been fun to have Jackson Dart being a part of it when Russell Wilson was going nuts with the healthy Malik neighbors. But I think there's some truth and semblance to that. And it also sort of ties back to.
Starting point is 00:20:00 our conversation about guys like Baker Mayfield with, you know, Daniel Jones down in Indianapolis. It's, and certainly Sam Darnold, it's having the opportunity to go to a good situation where they sort of cater to your strengths. Andy Reed sitting Patrick Mahomes in his rookie season for Alex Smith, like historically, people are going to look back at that one and just have their jaws drop. but it was fantastic for his career trajectory. Same thing with Lamar Jackson. Imagine watching Lamar Jackson every week in practice doing some of the Lamar Jackson things and saying, you know what, I'm going to keep this guy. I mean, I couldn't have done it.
Starting point is 00:20:41 So, you know, it's a real testament and patient to some of these coaches. Let's stick with Baltimore, though, here. Another question fantasy managers need to know, NFL fans want to know, it doesn't seem like it's in the Ravens M.O to kind of, you know, take a step back and say, you know, we're okay. We're going to have a losing season. We never have losing seasons. Let's take a step back. Maybe we'll draft Ruben Bain from Miami in like the top five. Add some impact player. We'll have a great draft and we'll be back next year. Ravens 1 in 5 start heading into their by week. What do we see coming out of Baltimore this week? Is this going to be a team that is able to make adjustments? I assume we're going to have Lamar Jackson. back this week. I know he missed practice on Monday. I don't worry about a guy missing practice on a Monday. Assume we're going to have Lamar Jackson back. Where do we see these Ravens going
Starting point is 00:21:33 over the second half of the season? Oh, this is tough. If you tell me we get a healthy Lamar Jackson who's engaged and willing to play. I have some, I feel like the vibes aren't really good right now. But let's just assume we get a healthy Lamar who's engaged, wants to go win. You look at their schedule, Theo. they could easily run the table. I'm not exaggerating. But at worst, I think they can get the 10 and 7. They can still make the playoffs. The season is absolutely not lost.
Starting point is 00:21:59 You just buzz through it really quick. They have Chicago, Miami, Minnesota, Cleveland, New York Jets, Cincinnati twice. I mean, just right off the bat, that's eight winnable games. I mean, that's crazy. Pittsburgh, New England, Green Bay, tougher matchups. But if they can get the ball rolling here and put together four or five wins in a row, they become a threat to all these teams. And so, yeah, I mean, I don't think this is a lost season at all.
Starting point is 00:22:24 If Lamar is ready to rock, I think you should expect the fantasy production we expected before the season started. Derek Henry specifically, this schedule is Taylor made for him. I mean, this is insane. He could go on a ridiculous run right now with the schedule they have remaining. Yeah, and a shout out to our guy, Scott Barrett, who's always kind of usually, and Scott needs to drop this post on X. I'm going to get after him. But usually you get this tweet from Scott saying,
Starting point is 00:22:49 Derek Henry rushing yards in September, Derek Henry rushing yards in October, November, December. And it just goes up. It's like straight up. So always a really interesting one there. I'm kind of optimistic. And I think when it comes to the division, it's not completely out of the realm of possibilities
Starting point is 00:23:08 that Baltimore could rip off a few wins here, put themselves a little bit back in at least punchers distance. Cincinnati just beat Pittsburgh last week. Cincinnati's still going to go for it under Flacco. Pittsburgh's not. exactly a perfect team by any measure. This could be a different conversation when we get to the end of November than where we are now about this division. And Baltimore, I don't think is going to fall and go back quietly. You also have these internal quotes and stuff where there's been some
Starting point is 00:23:36 Harbaugh maybe trying to put things on Todd Monkin. The Baltimore media is sort of, you know, suggesting that Monkin could be a fall guy, which seems insane to me that Monkin could be a fall guy here. So wouldn't be surprised if Todd Munkin with the backup against the wall gets Lamar Jackson back and they put up some really, really big fantasy numbers and certainly some big scoring weeks upcoming. Let's stay in the AFC North. True or false, Quinchan Judkins is a top five running back in Dynasty Fantasy Football and he's a top 12 running back for the rest of the season in redraft fantasy football this year. We saw Quinshon Judkins doing some very special things
Starting point is 00:24:21 from the Green Bay game where Cleveland got the big upset to this past week in week seven where Judkins put three touchdown scores up on the hapless Miami Dolphins rush defense. And I get it, Miami lets everybody score, but three touchdowns from a Cleveland Browns running back. Brett, Judkins is on pace right now to finish with the most rushing yard,
Starting point is 00:24:43 in Cleveland Brown's history from a rookie, despite missing that first game of the year. He's also within a punching distance of breaking Trent Richardson's rookie record for rushing touchdowns. He's going to pass Jim Brown. He's going to pass Nick Chubb in the rushing yardage category. I mean, the guy's unbelievable, and he's doing it without having time with the team. He was basically having to keep himself in shape. It's mind, it's mind-boggling to me that he's able to stay in this good football shape. A bit of a big. testament to whoever his personal coaches are, but still for a player to do that without getting the benefit of a training camp is wild.
Starting point is 00:25:22 So back to my question, top five running back in Dynasty, and is he a running back one for the rest of the season in redraft? So RB one rest of the season, easy to say true for that. I mean, he is, he's either saving me in my redraft leagues or he's making my team an absolute unstoppable force because I drafted him on every single redraft team I have. I have Quintan Junkins is either my last or second to last pick. So, yeah, huge win there. Let's unpack the dynasty thing.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I need to visually think this out. So we have Jemir Gibbs and Bijan probably one. Yeah, Bejohn. So I'll just go head to head. Ashton Genti or Quinshan Junkins. I'm going to say Jodkins. Omarian Hampton or Quinton Junkin. Junkin for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Okay. So we're there. Devon A. Chan or Quinn Sean Junkins. age in okay we'll go jonathan taylor or or quenchon juckins how old is it taylor taylor's in that weird age age what is he 26 now yeah taylor's that age where like if i don't have a super competitive team i'm trying to package him for like a boatload but that could bite you pretty bad um he's older than barclay right oh no no barkley's barkley's considerably old barcquist
Starting point is 00:26:47 It's like 28. Yeah. So Barclay's, I'm not even putting Barclay in this conversation. That's just how good Judkins is. If somebody offers me Barclay for my Judkins and Dynasty, even if I'm a contending team, I'm not taking that. I'm rolling with this with Judkins who, like is, and this is completely off the show sheet,
Starting point is 00:27:05 but I've talked about this with Scott where when he's drafted to Cleveland, we all think to ourselves Nick Chubb. They're trying to get this Nick Chubb-like runner. But I don't necessarily think. see Nick Chubb when I watch him out there. He's different. Is there a running back when you watch Quinshawin-John Jenkins, now that you've seen him play for five, six games that jumps to your head and you say, oh, my gosh, this Quinshon-Junkins is blank or is it more? He's sort of his own guy.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh, I love this. We had one of our charters saying an interesting name. And I apologize to whoever said this one, but Scott told me this one. I don't remember who did it. And a shout out to the amazing team that you have at Fantasy Points Data. All those guys fantastic. The great work you do over there. But this one was somebody saying it looks like Adrian Peterson. Not a bad call. I think AP still had better breakaway speed, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah, I see some, he's like a more physical Kenneth Walker with good vision. Like he has the same lateral quickness as Walker and that juice that Walker has, but he's a way more physical player. So I don't know. He's like his own animal right now. There's not a lot of running backs like him in the league right now. Yeah, and he's also been an opportunistic pass catcher when they ask him to do it, like early on in his career.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Judkins does it all. It checks off a ton of boxes. It'll be an interesting conversation to have at the end of the year. I think it'll be interesting really to see where he settles into redraft next year. But Judkins, absolute beast. Brett, we've also got to talk about two rookie running backs, both seventh round picks. We talked all offseason long about how strong this running back class is.
Starting point is 00:28:51 The 2025 running back class is really showing its true strength with some very interesting performances from players drafted in round seven. We're going to discuss them right after this. Welcome back, Fantasy Football Daily. Theo Greminger with Brett Whitefield. If you want to level your game up, make sure you are subscribed to fantasy points. You're getting access to so many amazing tools, our amazing range. rankings are amazing articles. You're going to have access to my WaverWire article, to Tom Braverly's
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Starting point is 00:30:04 very, very strongly. Brett, let's talk about these rookie running backs. Let's talk about two in particular, Breschard Smith and Kyle Menangai both sort of flashed this past week and week seven. With Breschard Smith, yeah, he benefited certainly from the score of the game and the fact that the chiefs were up so much. A lot of his touches were in the second half. But I think it's a real breakthrough for Breschard Smith to have a 19 touch performance. It shows the confidence level Kansas City's giving him. You also have your guy, Ben Johnson, who's sort of synonymous with having multiple backs, score fantasy points collectively together for multiple years in Detroit. He had the Jamal Williams, DeAndre Swift season, and then back-to-back years of David Montgomery
Starting point is 00:30:50 and Jemir Gibbs both eating. DeAndre Swift having his best season since 2021, but you're seeing Kyle Monong guy working in, getting the snaps, and now producing with a touchdown of his own this past week. Which player is more intriguing to you? If you could pick one of these two players to roster for the rest of the season, who would it be? Breschard Smith. And it's not even close to me. For one reason, like, the Chiefs have no tail on it running back. Cream Hunt is obviously washed.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Pacheco, they just don't trust him for whatever reason. I think Smith has a real opportunity to take that backfield at some point, maybe not this year, obviously, but in the future, he's also an elite past catching option. And we know Patrick Mahomes is, like, the defining feature of his career is taking what the defense gives them right. And so running backs that can catch the ball. This is this is something Patrick loves. And so we've seen it work with Derek McKinnon in the past. McKinnon's been he had a couple years where he was like a fantasy killer late in the season.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So I think Smith definitely has an opportunity to be like that. And I just don't trust Kyle Menungi to hold on to any role in Chicago. I think this little peaked role he has the last couple weeks is DeAndre Swift, kind of nursing injury, which is something DeAndre Swift does a lot. but in the long run, I think Ben probably opts to replace both of these guys. And so I'm definitely going Bruchard Smith here. Yeah, the Bruchard Smith has has the, and I talked about this with Joe and Tom. And I think that those two guys were on the Monongai track. I was certainly on the Breschard Smith.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I'm completely with you on this one. It's the offensive environment. It's the fact that Kansas City is going to be so pass happy in the second half of the year. The fact that we've seen this in an Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes team with Jerich McKinn, with a great deal of success in years past. And again, I bring up the 19 touches. And a lot of people sort of are like, again, Theo, this is a blowout. Like you slow your role.
Starting point is 00:32:44 But 19 touches. And this is Kansas City continually talked about the lack of experience Breschard Smith had. Maybe we need to see him get more experience as a running back. I think this is a breakthrough for this team to use him like this. Then you also factoring Kareem Hunt being banged up. I think Breschard Smith's going to. continue to trend up, and he might be peaking by the time we get to the fantasy football playoffs.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I think with Monongai, for him to be really useful for us, it's going to take a Dandre Swift injury. So I'm with you. It's Breschard Smith. Prashart Smith can also potentially produce without an Isaiah Pacheco injury if this passing game role continues to grow. Five catches, 42 yards this past week. Really, really an interesting, interesting player. Let's talk about Cincinnati. We talked about a bunch of AFC North with Baltimore. Let's talk about these bangles with Joe Flacco. You've now seen two weeks. And the returns with Jamar Chase have been insane. He's breaking the numbers at Fantasy Points data, checking off a million boxes here. The first read rate is off the charts, the target share off the charts, the air yard share
Starting point is 00:33:55 is off the charts and the scoring numbers fantastic, 25 points and then a 38-pointer, 23 targets this past week, Brett. Is Jamar Chase going to be our first wide receiver one overall repeat finisher in since Antonio Brown, DeAndre Hopkins prime years? We haven't seen this in a long time. And I know there was a lot of narrative about Pukunakua, certainly banged up, a little bit banged up now. We'll expect him to be back soon. JSN has been unbelievably productive lights out this year. But it seems like it's Jamar Chases to lose with Flacco behind center. Are you on this train as well?
Starting point is 00:34:36 It's crazy because there was a point in the season that looked completely lost, right? Like if you pick Chase one overall, you were dead. Yeah, I don't know. I think Gundamah had to pick the field or Jamar Chase, I would take the field for sure. However, the schedules stays relatively light for them. And I think this is a really important part of it. because I don't think Flacco is viable. Like in competitive games against good teams, I don't think he's viable.
Starting point is 00:35:00 But New York in Chicago the next two weeks, that's the New York Jets, by the way. The Steelers again, who they just, you know, dump trucked offensively. Then they have the Patriots who are tough, but then the Ravens who stink on defense, the bills who stink on defense, the Ravens again who stink on defense, and the Miami Dolphins, who are the worst team in the league, and then the Arizona Cardinals, like their, his fantasy playoff run, Weeks 14, 15, 16, 17, whatever. Insane.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Like, he could go absolutely nuclear. So, yeah, gun to my head, I'd take the field. But obviously, Chase is in the driver's seat to do that again. So, yeah, it's the spike weeks. It's the offensive environment. Like, everything about the, everything's set up for, for Jamar Chase to have the success. And for me, I just love seeing Flacco in this role because Flacco's never played with a player of this level on offense ever.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Like, this is the best offensive. go position player that Flacco's ever played with. I think he's going to hyper target him. Like the target share might get really silly over the second half of the season. I think when the going gets tough, it's forcing balls into chase and he's that good player that he can win pretty much any 50, 50 ball. And I just love it. It's, it seems like we're on that track.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And I love Pooka Nakuwa. But the one thing that Puka has to deal with is Devante Adams. And Devonte Adams playing at this really, really high level. Devante Adams, a player that Matthew Stafford's going to really, really target, especially in the end zone. Puka just doesn't have that touchdown ceiling that Chase has. JSN is sort of, JSN's, I mean, listen, it's hard to poke any sort of a hole in the, in the JSN. But I will say from the, like, the team perspective, Seattle's defense is going to have some games here where they're going to be able to sort of keep things low scoring. the Bengals, every single game is an offensive explosion.
Starting point is 00:36:54 They're very generous on defense and they're going to have to pass a lot on offense. So the ecosystem, fantastic. Yeah, I worry a little, like he had 23 targets this past week. Like, he's not going to hold up medically if he keeps getting that. So that's the only real concern there. And then JSN's just on a historic tear. Like, he's on pace to break the receiving record. Dr. Brett Whitefield, giving us medical advice on Jermar Chase.
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Starting point is 00:39:24 bonus award is non-wistrawable, pick six bonus picks that expire in 14 days, limited time offer, see terms at pick6.draftkings.com slash promos. All right, Brett, let's get after it. Let's get after it here. Okay, what on earth is going on with our guy, Jameson Williams? we were both very high on, I'd say collectively speaking for, we're not the only ones here. There's a couple other people of fantasy points who like Jameson Williams this offseason.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I'm going to take my wins where I can. I'm going to take my L's also and I'm going to own them. I'm taking a big L on Jameson Williams. I was encouraging people to draft him inside of round seven. We'd be the seventh round pick, encouraging people to draft him when he was inside around six. I even took him in two dynasty startups and didn't, the where I'd select him in the,
Starting point is 00:40:15 Dynasty startups, just a quick check-in. One of those teams is a high-stakes F-FPC startup. I'm the number one seed right now. So, like, he wasn't in a range that could kill me in a Dynasty startup. But it's certainly when you factor in opportunity cost, Jameson Williams was going around a number of players who could have really helped you this season in redraft. What is going on here?
Starting point is 00:40:38 Is this a reflection of his role in a John Morton offense? They paid him, too, Brett. None of this makes sense. I mean, here's a thing, dude. Like, paying a guy has nothing to do with his production. Like, John Morton's not playing fantasy football, I guess is what I'm trying to say. And so Jameson's role is, I mean, it's, if you check out the routes he's running, if you watch the tape and see his role in the offense, it's grown.
Starting point is 00:41:07 It's actually grown despite the targets. What's happening is there's this gravitational pull to Jameson Williams. I could walk anyone that wants to through the tape. I mean, just turn on the Monday night football game against the Buccaneers from the other night. Every single snap, the safeties are relating to Jameson Williams. It's locating him, where's it going, what's his release, and playing leverage to help out whatever corners against him.
Starting point is 00:41:33 It's truly gravitational. So you see that season Amun Ra is having right now, it's in large part because Jameson's making it really easy on him. Ammanra is getting legit. one-on-one coverage every snap because of Jameson Williams, where Amonra used to be the guy that got a ton of attention. So, and then the, another factor here is like, we're at the point, I think, with this Lions offense where they just have too many guys that are good. And so I think Jamo will still have these spike weeks. They haven't really needed him yet in any game to like break the script
Starting point is 00:42:05 open or anything like that. And I think that's part of it. But they just, they have too many guys from Amonra to Leporta to Jamo to Gibbs to Monty to you know they're given scheme looks up to Isaac Tesla now I mean it's like Tesla seems to be a red zone guy well some of those targets used to go to JMO and it like it's just so spread out now it's so dynamic and then the last big factor is this offensive line has not played well this year this is a big concern coming in they have the talent to be really really good I'm not really worried about it long term but in the in the short part of the short part of the discussion, Taylor Decker has been pretty bad. He's been banged up all year, a really bad shoulder injury.
Starting point is 00:42:48 He re-injured it last night, too, so I don't know how that's going to look, but they just really, I know they had like a three-game stretch where golf didn't get sacked. That's not what the tape said. Goff has been under pressure more than, more than any season since his last year in L.A. So like, this is, that's an interesting dynamic. And obviously a lot of what JMO does is downfield. So if you, if golf doesn't have time to get to that part of the progression, it's just not happening.
Starting point is 00:43:10 So what I think you will start to see is some of these shallows with JMO that were really good last year. They're going to get back to that. You saw that in week against the Chiefs. Jamo hit a couple of those. But I think what they found, too, is when they move Jamo into the slot, when they move him to a reduced front and try to get him some of these short routes, that just muddies up the middle of the field really bad because defenses are, he has this gravitational pull.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And then all of a sudden, Amman Ra's job's a lot harder because no one's clearing it out. Sam Leporta is not exactly a deep burner, right? He can win deep, but it's not as conventional as a Jameson Williams. And so everything just gets really muddy when you keep JMO tight to the line of scrimmage. And I think that's kind of what you're seeing right now. There's going to be games. He has blowups. I promise you that.
Starting point is 00:43:56 It's just, yeah, I think that the season long view of where we thought he would be is just not going to come to fruition. Yeah, it's, it's disappointing. And it's not a reflection of Detroit not scoring. Detroit's actually averaging 30.7 points per game. So a little bit, what's that? Third in the league, yeah. Yeah, third in the league. And again, like the fall off from like there was a lot of people saying this,
Starting point is 00:44:19 the doom and gloom is coming. Ben Johnson is not here. Like I think we would give John Morton collectively an A for taking over this sort of situation and averaging 30, like guys averaging 30.7 points per game. And the greatest offensive coordinator we've seen in, you know, the last 20 years, arguably, in Ben Johnson, you lose him. And the offense is still like just housing people. And that 30.7 is not even including Detroit, having laying like an absolute egg in game
Starting point is 00:44:49 one and being completely shut down. So that number is going to continue to maybe rise, I think, as the season moves along. It's just incredibly frustrating to misread a situation like this when it comes to Jameson. I think you nailed it where it's going to get even more frustrating where Jameson Williams is going to put up some spike week numbers. You're just never going to be able to predict which week to use him. It's going to be on the bench. He's going to be a guy that, I mean, really is going to be a bad pick this year.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But maybe you get some return on investment in best ball leagues over the second half of the year. We know he's talented. He averages over 14 points per game last year. And like you said, it doesn't matter that they paid him. But, you know, we still like to see our guys being paid by NFL teams. It's a good indicator. One other player who, let's talk about two more players.
Starting point is 00:45:35 your confidence level in them rest of the season. Let's start out with one that's interesting. Let's start off with Ladd-McConkie. And Ladd-McConkey, it was sort of all-duming gloom. And now Ladd has had three weeks in a row where he's been impactful for fantasy. 14.9 points against Washington in week five, low yardage total in that game. But he did have five receptions in a touchdown. Then week six was the 23-pointer.
Starting point is 00:46:05 his best game of the year, seven catches for 100 yards against Miami. Scott Barrett sort of poured a little bit of cold water on this one. Talked about lad snaps didn't really go up. But then Brett, we saw another, another really kind of inspiring and performance. It sort of gives us hope for the rest of the season in week seven. L.A.'s trailing by a ton. And McCawkey sees a season high by far with 15 targets. catches nine of them for 67 yards,
Starting point is 00:46:37 sort of PPR cheat codes his weight of 15.7 points. Your thoughts on McConkey with now more mouse to feed in L.A. and your confidence level with him in your fantasy lineups moving forward. Yeah, it's funny. I predicted a Lab McConkey arrival to the season against the Giants, to which he caught one pass on six targets for 11 yards. And then it was the following week, we finally saw the breakout with five catches and a tutti and whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Yeah, I'm, I don't know that he'll ever return to what he was last year this season, but I'm confident he's here to stay. Like this role you see right now, it should stay or even get better. Joe Alt returning to the lineup should in theory help. I think what you've seen a lot of so far is Greg Roman doubling down on 12 personnel and 21. Like, their heavy rate since the alt injury has gone from about 12% of their personnel packages to well over 36% now. And that's just because they need extra blockers on the field. And so, and that takes a receiver off the field. And McConkey, unfortunately, has been that guy.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I'm very shocked to see Keenan Allen playing or running more routes than Ladd McConkey. I think that's kind of strange, right? Yeah. And then they value that extra receiver role a ton. So whether that's QJ or when QJ is out, Trey Harris, that guy's playing a lot because he's their best blocker in the run game. So yeah, it is weird to see them take Ladd off the field. But, yeah, I think this role grows.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I feel relatively confident. it's just tough. There's a lot of mouths to feed. And, you know, the one thing I can rest my hat on, though, is like, we know they're going to lead the league, if not lead, be second in the league and pass rate over expectation. They're going to throw the ball a ton. So that gives me a lot of confidence.
Starting point is 00:48:17 One player who is just another mind-numbing one, one of the worst possible picks you could have made at ADP this year, was Brian Thomas Jr., who I was optimistic about having a very strong second season. We saw the big step. step forward in week six. He had his best game of the year. And I talked about this one with Scott. And Scott again was sort of apprehensive about this one. And to Scott's credit, I think he was spot on. But I don't think Scott would have predicted that we'd have this bad of a game in week seven. Follows up a 23-pointer in week six with the worst fantasy scoring game of his of the season with
Starting point is 00:48:54 6.1 in week seven. Now dealing with a little bit of a shoulder injury. They have their by week this week. does Brian Thomas come back in week nine against Vegas and you're like happy to use him and excited about maybe the like little self-scouting Jacksonville does in their by week, maybe the little nuances and changes they maybe put in to get BTJ going? Or do you think this is going to end up being sort of a lost year and a player that we really need to have really an adjustment of our expectations for moving forward? the yeah this this one's another one it's like multi-varied analysis required to it properly addressed so you have btj who caught that hospital ball in the preseason from lawrence he's
Starting point is 00:49:40 not been the same since then i know he hasn't popped up on an injury report i don't think until this week but he has clearly been injured a little bit of the case of the yips with the drops and then you know making some business decisions over the middle of the field um so i think that's one thing but then you also have the fact that Trevor lawrence is playing really bad football right now And it's been that way all year. And then the third component is they've had a very unfriendly schedule so far playing some of the best past defenses in the league. Houston Texans, the 49ers pre-Bosa injury, the chiefs, the Seahawks, the Rams, like these teams are all murderers row, right? Their schedule opens up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:50:17 They got one against the Raiders, as you mentioned, coming out of the buy. Then they get the Texans, which is a really tough matchup. But then from there, pretty smooth sailing as far as teams that can take away a passing offense with the charge. the Cardinals, the Titans, the Colts, the Jets, those teams are all like BTJ in theory, those are all really good matchups for him. So I think maybe you do see a little bit of a bounceback, but that's going to require Trevor Lawrence to play better football as well. Then from a dynasty lens, yes or no on each of these players, was Ladd-McConkys and
Starting point is 00:50:51 Brian Thomas Jr.'s rookie seasons the best fantasy scoring numbers you're going to see from these guys in their entire career? or is that just too hyperbolic? I said it at the time. Throw in Brock Bowers for that matter. And actually I see you have, I just now see that note on the show sheet. Yeah, I said it at the time.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Like I'm not predicting that, but you very well may have seen the best season from those three guys that they'll ever have. Yeah, and this is kind of a question. I wish we had a lot more time to talk about it. I think it's a really interesting one for the off season. But in the era of rookie wide receivers hitting more and more often in year one,
Starting point is 00:51:29 is this going to be something where we need to, is this like a one-off thing, or is this a something that's going to continually happen? Players step in, they get this massive role, but then the situation changes. When it's a Jamar Chase or a Justin Jefferson, target competition doesn't really matter. But for a guy like BTJ, a guy like Lad,
Starting point is 00:51:50 were they really more opportunistic wide receiver one overall types for offenses? is this something where it could be happening more and more often over the years, Brett, where rookie wide receiver comes in, puts up huge numbers, and then maybe that's the best that we're going to see from them in their career. Yeah, I think you could see this for sure. I mean, one of the things of note is like teams, they like to have multiple horses. So just by just math, like there's going to be more hands involved.
Starting point is 00:52:21 You mentioned Jefferson and Chase. Well, when Jefferson came out, he was already a complete play. like he was dynamic great at the catchpoint great route runner chase kind of had to develop into who he is today but that i mean you've seen that growth manifest into wide receiver one seasons right so um i do think for a guy like lad or btj where they don't have a really complete skill set um and that's that's that's like i love btj and lad as prospects but they're not jimar chase and jesus jefferson you know what i mean like they have a long way go so if that developmental curve doesn't happen then yeah you're going to be locked into seeing their best days early when no one has
Starting point is 00:52:55 tape on them for for for b tj too going through the new offensive coordinator change and like that could be contributing a little bit because his role isn't the exact same as it was really an interesting one it's a it's a fun one for the off season but it's you know we oftentimes get in this idea in sports that young player having success has an upward trajectory he's going to get to this amazing elite level we maybe have to take a look at what is the situation. What is the profile of the player rather than this player scored a bunch of points in year one? Therefore, they're going to score a bunch more points in year two and year three. Really interesting stuff. Brett, this has been so much fun. Let's end it with this one.
Starting point is 00:53:40 What is a player that your data is saying to buy low on? A player maybe that's not your traditional buy low candidate, but a player who could make a fantasy impact towards the tail end of the season heading into the fantasy football playoffs. Yeah, I'll throw out Trey Benson. He's about to come off IR. I think we realistically get him back week 10. And, you know, you look at the Cardinals rush offense with and without him. Four games with, they were, you know, fringe top 10 in EPA per rush play.
Starting point is 00:54:14 In the three games without him, they were like second to last in the NFL and EPA per rush play. Like a massive factor there. And then you look at the individual performance metrics as well. Benson, you know, real high in yards after contact, force him his tackle rate. The guys that currently are lining up back there, not very good. So I think he steps into a massive role right away. You also have Jacoby Brissette playing quarterback right now.
Starting point is 00:54:38 And it's crazy how alive that offense has looked with him at quarterback. You know, functional quarterback play can make a world of difference. So I think he's kind of set up to step into a really good environment for him to kind of blow up, assuming he's healthy down the stretch. Yeah, I love that one. We actually talked about Tray Benson in the pre-show. Like I was going to say Tray Benson, but of course you're super sharp and you jump to that conclusion as well. To me, it's just the narrative that we had for Benson when James Connor went down for injury is exactly the narrative we should maintain.
Starting point is 00:55:10 We're just going to have to be a little more patient for it. I don't think Benson's going to be a guy that's going to put up 25-pointers. But I think he could give us 15 points per game when he steps back onto the field. and they're going to give him about as much as he can handle. And Brett, you're paying a significantly cheaper price tag for him in all formats because people have been holding him didn't really do anything significant when he had that early opportunity. But again, Bam Knight and Michael Carter and Amari Demercato are not going to hold back
Starting point is 00:55:40 Trey Benson. I'll also mention if people in your leagues don't understand what Jordan Addison is right now, he's a buy high in all formats. And I've talked about Addison all offseason long. Jordan Addison is a special player. We've now seen him score 15 points, 15 points, and now 22 points against Philadelphia in week seven. Addison, we saw him be a league winner down the stretch in the 2024 season. The guy scores touchdowns at an extremely high rate.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And now you're seeing his fantasy scoring numbers trending up to an even higher level. Rookie year, 13 points per game, year two, 14. points per game and now he's averaging 17 and a half i think most people are going to assume that this number is going to trickle down what if it doesn't i'm happy paying a high price for jordan addison in pretty much any format right now brett your thoughts quickly on addison yeah edison's a baller man he's he's just so good such a good route runner gets open at will um and because of the the gravity that jefferson commands you know he's going to get one-on-ones most of the time so i definitely I agree with you on that.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yeah, looking for Addison to have a big one on Thursday night. We find out live on air here. It's going to be Carson Wentz behind center again for Minnesota. Holding out hope for your J.J. McCarthy shares in the second half of the year, Brett. Yeah, looking good. I mean, they can't be worse than, he can't be worse than Carson Wentz's been. No, he's been ugly. I mean, if Carson Wentz had a pulse, they win that game easily on Sunday, but he does not.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Alas. Five touchdown, excuse me, five field goals and a single-touch. touchdown. That ratio is not going to get it done in the NFL unless you're playing like maybe the Tennessee Titans. So Brett, let everybody know once again what you have going on. Yeah, check out first read podcast, NFL first read on Spotify or Apple. It is Joe Marino and I. It's just a, it's an NFL show. There's a ton of fantasy takeaways, though, in the conversations we have. And once in a while, we'll throw in a very fantasy specific convo. But we really have a good time doing the show. It's just talking ball film and analytics. And then, yeah, I match up points with
Starting point is 00:57:49 with John and Graham that comes out every Friday on Spotify, YouTube on Thursdays. That's where we break. We go game by game and break down every single game of the slate. It's pretty high level. It's all fantasy stuff, betting stuff. So check that out for sure. Yeah, check out everything Brett puts out. We're going to be doing a ton of podcasting together upcoming as well.
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