Fantasy Football Daily - 2021 Week 12 Matchup Podcast (Premium)

Episode Date: November 25, 2021

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Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Welcome to the week 12 matchup live stream here at fantasy points.com. I'm John Hansen. Our guy, Adam Kaplan, will be joining us in a moment. But we do have Greg Co. Sell here. So we'll break down week 12 in about an hour. Not going to go like hardcore in depth. It's actually a little early in the week for us here recording this and doing this on a Wednesday, obviously because of Thanksgiving. We've got our guy Ben Cucanus on the other side of the glass or as we like to call him dad. Ironically enough, I actually had a dad bod before it became a dad. So there's that. And I've been rolling with a dad bod for about 30 years now, Ben. So look forward to multiple decades of rocking it out here. Greg CoSell is, you know, probably the same. You probably haven't gained a pound since you were in like college, Greg. How are you?

Well, yeah, I have, John. I have. A little bit. Just a few. Yeah, fortunately, not bad. but yeah, just a few. Yeah. I was unusually thin, not unusually thin, but I was very thin.

So I've gained some weight for sure. Well, yeah, I went to college at 175 pounds. Needless to say, I do not weigh 175 pounds now. You were there. I was probably close there because I'm, you're six four. I was six, two. And I think I was like, buck 70, you know? But I gained, like, I gained weight I needed each.

year. I mean, I think I gained close to 10 pounds each year in college just as I kind of, you know, grew up a little bit. Well, we'll be gaining some weight tomorrow on Thanksgiving. That's for sure. All day, a lot of weight, a lot of weight gain here. Let's get into it here. Chicago at Detroit. Greg, I know you don't really have much on this. I do not, John. Sorry. Yeah. Oh, it's fine. You have not watched Tim Boyle. I'm shocked that you didn't go watch that. No, and my guess is, you know, no knock on Tim Boyle. I'm sure he's a nice guy from a great family. but I will not be watching Tim Boyle. Yeah, I know. Very quickly on D'Andre Swift, though, I don't know how much of him you've seen. I know you liked him. I did, yeah. Really nice year, Greg.

I mean, he's making unblocked defenders miss in the open field on a regular basis. No question. I mean, I loved him coming out. Obviously, he didn't have the same number of carries this week as he had the week prior when he had over 30. It'll be interesting to see, John. This is the big question for fantasy, obviously,

if he truly becomes a back in terms of volume carries. Because this week, while he had big numbers, I think he only had, what, 14 carries? Yeah, about 14, 15. It's been a weird year for him running the ball, actually. Yeah, so, I mean, he is their guy, I think, but I don't know if I feel comfortable, and I imagine maybe you feel the same way.

I don't know, saying that he's going to get, you know, 22 or 23 carries. Oh, absolutely. What's weird about it, he's only on pace now for, my math is not good. I'd say about 2.20. That's not bad. What's weird about his season is he was not good at all in the running game for about two months and catching six, seven balls every week, getting it done for fantasy. But over the last two weeks, you know, he's got the 47 carries and he's looked really good on those carries. And not all, but Amman Ross St. Brown would be a guy that

I might look at here on the very low end. He probably has a pretty good matchup here in the slot. Greg, you know, what type of a player do you think Amman Ra is? Do you think he's slot only because they've been talking about lining him up outside? My sense watching him coming out of USC was that he probably transitioned more to the slot, although it would depend on the team and the scheme.

Because I thought there were some similarities to Robert Woods when I watched him in USC. and obviously Robert Woods in the context of the offense in which he plays, lines up both inside and outside. But if he's, if St. Brown would be in a more traditional offense where they simply, you know, did not do the same kinds of things the Rams do,

I would likely see him more as a slot. It would be nice to have like some sort of kind of guy there, you know, like a weekly staple type receiver that's going to be involved every week. You get on the same page. maybe that can, you know, continue here. It started and then it stopped with Jared Gough. How big of a loss is Akeem Hicks here?

Because he's a big dude and he's like two guys out there, Greg, for the Bears. He's out. Yeah, he's a big loss. He's really a good run defender. He's just a big man right in the middle of their defense. And for the Chicago Bears, obviously, it's Andy Dalton. At quarterback, our guy, Darnel Mooney, I nicknamed him the road runner this week. I think it's very apropos because he's thin.

He's number 11 and he's fast. Looking great. Alan Robinson doubtful. But Greg, it's pretty clear here, no matter if it's Justin Fields or Andy Dalton, they're going to run the ball. That's going to be a major, major, major foundation of what they do tomorrow, Chicago.

Without question. I mean, it'd be hard for me to believe that this game is going to be a high scoring game in which one team, you know, pulls away big time from the other. other team. So I would think it's a running back game. It's a little surprising that they haven't worked in Khalil Herbert the last two games. Montgomery's been at like 90% of the snap. So Herbert is just a afterthought. So we'll see if that continues here as we move along here. There's our guy,

Adam Kaplan. Oh, guys. There he is. Well, we don't see your face yet, Mr. C. All right, hang on. Does anyone really want to see it? That's actually a good point. There he is. Oh, look at that. Look at all. I'm dapper. Osel's got his hoodie on. Okay. Fancy. Well, did you have anything to add on the Bears game? We pretty much talked about...

I feel it's a Mooney game. Yeah. One of the corners is out for the lines, one of the top corners. So I went on his reserve today. AJ, what's his face? One on IR, so I look forward to seeing what Mooney can do with Dalton. Yes. Yeah.

We just said it's going to be all about the run for sure. But when they do throw it... Oh, it'll be him. It'll be Mooney for sure. Yeah, because AROB's not playing. Yeah. Yeah, who is it? AJ Parker went on IR.

Okay. We're going to move on then to the Raiders. Yep. And the Cowboys, Adam. It seems like I don't know if it's, you know, just BS, but it does seem like we're trending towards C.D. Lam potentially playing. Well, by rule, he has to practice like today.

And then the next day, he would have to have a full practice thing and get cleared. So he should be short one day. I'll look into this very quickly here. But yeah, I guess he's getting, by the kid, what the Cowboys said today, he's got a chance. It's really not, you're not supposed to be able to be cleared by rule within four days. But yeah, because boy, without him, it's just a different story.

One thing, Greg, about the Cowboys that, I mean, I do like and you must like if you're a fan, is they can beat you in a number of ways. Like, you want to make it a throw ball game, okay. You want to, you want to just run the rock. downhill all day. You know, that's what the defense is asking you to do. Yeah, they can do that too with Zeke L.A is nursing that knee slash ankle. This Raider D kind of does, based on what I've seen this year, their corners play well on the outside. They're kind of saying, hey, run the ball here for Dallas at home. Well, we know that the Raiders are predominantly a cover three defense. The Cowboys O' line

had some problems last week, particularly on the left side with steel playing left tackle and McGovern and left guard. That was a big issue. I got the sense watching their tape that they were playing that game to sort of protect their old line. They were very reactive and not proactive in their approach. They never got into a rhythm offensively at all. They really didn't run the ball. They were very condensed with the past game. It was not a good offensive performance. I would expect a much better one on Thursday night. Yeah, because Tyron Smith, the splits with and without them are pretty eye-opening for for DAC and Zeke and Adam we're getting Tyrant Smith's not even on the injury report right he's starting yeah he's definitely yeah well that will help tremendously in the run

and the past game too right for sure yes yeah so zeke alley i i think is looking good here um and cedric wilson would be in the slot um that Nate hobbs in the slot's doing pretty well so they do have three good corners here so it i believe it will be a zique game and a Pollard game, maybe a little bit more of a Pollard game than usual if Zeeck's knee is a problem. I kind of like Dalton Schultz, too, in this matchup, Adam. We talked about it today. He's kind of like a checkdown guy here. And, you know, if these corners continue to play well, he'll likely, Dak will likely get to that progression. What do you think at Dalton Schultz, Greg? Not a guy we talk about a lot, but I'll tell you what, man, this guy is a very inviting

target because he's reliable and, you know, he can run a little bit. He's pretty good. Oh, I would agree. Works the middle of the field well. I guess much of this would depend, John, and you'll obviously have more information tomorrow, would depend on CD Lam's availability. If he's not available, that would make it Wilson Gallup and Brown as the three wideouts, the top three wideouts, and then you'd have Dolan Schultz. And Donald Schultz has proven to be a very effective tight end.

Yeah, that's pretty good depth, too. I mean, no, Brown's not bad. No, no, not at all. I kind of liked him coming out of college. Yeah, yeah. And of course, Blake Jarwin on our here. Raider offense here, their struggle. Any thoughts on how they match up here against the Cowboys?

You know, Cowboys, you know, still kind of a man-to-man-based defense here. How do they handle Darren Waller? Are you asking me? Yeah, yeah, Greg. So, well, normally their tight-end matchup when they play man is Jayron Curse. Whether that continues, I guess we'll find out. out, but he is their tight-end matchup when they play man coverage. Any thoughts, Adam, on this game for Greg before we move on or any words of wisdom,

pearls of wisdom, injury-wise, or anything else? No, Raiders, the Raiders are going to have their key players in this game. I don't know what happened to Brian Edwards last week. His use is just haphazard. There's really no rhyme to reason about his role. I mean, they certainly don't make it a point to get him going. No, and it's like, whether it's the fourth quarter or they'll take a couple of shot place to him and then he just doesn't get the football.

Deshawn Jackson and Carr don't have any chemistry yet, which is what you would assume. So that that to me would be a concern as they go forward. They need, they obviously, without rugs, they need someone who could, they need a shot play guy and that's certainly missing. Bills and Saints, Greg, you've seen a lot of the tape here. It does seem like, I remember you saying this in the summer that Matt Breedah could be interesting in this offense, especially when they're in a four receiver set, spread in the field. I think Matt

Breed is a factor here. I don't know if they're groping, grasping at straws, but he has looked pretty good. That could be an interesting dynamic added to this offense, Greg. Not only you balance it out a little bit more, now you also had that the speed, you know, the home run hitter.

Well, we'll see. I mean, they started out this week with Allen under center. They played the fullback. They got behind 14. Nothing. All that changed. So they're still in a situation where they don't truly, have a viable and committed run game. Their O-line is not good enough to pass protect the way they wanted to. And the explosive pass plays have really been cut down. So it's really hard for them to sustain any kind of offense. And if you go, if you're going

to play that way, you're basically saying to your quarterback that you have to be great all the time or we just can't play offense. And that's a really hard deal. When you watch Dawson Knox in this offense. I don't know if you have any wisdom on that. I know you're looking at a million different things, but like his targets, how much of them, how many of them do you think are kind of designed for him

versus, you know, he's like the checkdown guy underneath. Just a couple are designed. He's not a big time, you know, volume guy in terms of how they approach their offense. Some are every once in a while. But it's, I wouldn't say, John, that. And again, because Josh Allen moves

a lot of things change. But I don't think he's a focal point of what they do. Yeah, that's a great point. But I will say this, when they do break down, I think he's looking for Knox more than, way more than usual like he used to. Like I feel like they've got that chemistry there going. Adam, for the Saints injury-wise here, no Camara.

Yeah. Mark Ingram, though, I guess it's a game time decision. Yeah, a couple things. things here. Also, Trey Edmonds will return at middle linebacker for the, for the bills, which is big because we know how bad the run defense was last week. Yeah, so Kamara's out with his MCL sprain. Ramcheck is out again. Marcus Davenport, unfortunately, heard his shoulder against the Eagles. He's out. Ingram did participate in the walkthrough today. So he's got a chance to play. Yep, yeah. Armstead got some work in today. Ty Montgomery's

been cleared. He'll be back. Taysam Hill will have his role. He's cleared. He's back. Simeon is fine with his right hand injuries. So I would think Ty Montgomery would get a little work in the past game in this game. Wow. Yeah, well, the same offense is pretty tough here when we don't know for sure if it's Mark Ingram and that Simeon and seems to be struggling. Greg, you didn't watch the St.offense this past week, did you? Oh, yeah. Oh, you did? Because they play the Eagles. Oh, right, right, right, right. Of course. what did you see out of the offense and the defense and anything relating to this matchup against the bills?

I don't think anything you probably don't know. You know, I think Calloway is probably their best whiteout as far as who he's going to throw it to. But I don't think we learned anything that you don't know. Not Trequan, huh? Trequan hasn't because when you look at the number, snaps, routes, he does seem to be leading that among Cal Wayne Harris.

Yeah, and I don't think there's one guy, I mean, necessarily. You know, I think that to me, I just don't know the answer to that. Yeah, all right. You know, and obviously the Saints defense just played an Eagles defense that's relatively unique. There's only two teams in the league that do that. It's the Eagles and the Ravens. So you can't get a feel for how their defense will be against the bills watching the Eagles

tape. but we know that they're good in the secondary because they have no injuries in the secondary, right, Adam? Yes, correct. I mean, besides, you know, obviously Gardner Johnson's. Right, who's on IR. Right. Yeah, sure.

But other than that, there's no additional injuries. Nope, no, not one guys in Leachyport. They still have a good secondary, John. I mean, this is not, you know, an easy game now. I know Davenport, I believe, is out. He's out. So maybe their past rush won't be the same, but, you know, they still have good players in the secondary. Yeah, and, you know, typically play a lot of men. I was at battle,

Lattimore against Devante Smith, by the way. They matched up quite a bit, but Smith didn't have many targets. And so it didn't really, to me, it didn't show up a ton on tape. I saw a couple routes where it looked like Smith was, you know, winning, you know, with his saviness and all that. He's a pretty tough cover, right? Wouldn't you say already, Devante Smith, by the way? Yeah, I would say he is a tough cover. Yeah. That's a pretty good. signed for him, by the way. And then the Bill D, I don't know what's going on there, Greg. Was it just a, you know, a horrible, horrible day where they just got away from them? Jonathan Taylor just crushed him. Well, it's funny you say that because I was watching that

game with one of my guys from the matchup show and we were just sitting and watching it. And I'm saying, you know, I know I'm going to get asked this week by a lot of people what happened to the bill's defense. And I'm just sitting there watching the tape and I'd say, look, there's a guy getting blocked. You know, I mean, that's normally what happens in the run game, you know, when you don't play the run. Now, I'm sure there's more detail that we don't know. I'm sure if Sean McDermott and Leslie Frazier was sitting here, they'd say they had some gap issues and, you know, and things like that, which is another thing that happens when you don't defend the run well. But I remember the play, the couple of plays I'm talking about where I was watching with my guy was, hey, look, guys being double-teamed and he's being shoved four yards back.

that's what happens when you don't play the run well. And plus the Colts had a couple of really interesting concepts. They had the WAM trap concept that was really, really effective in this game. Oh, John, and also Star Lutolet is still on the COVID list. He's only existence to stop in the run. So there you go. You take Evans out and you take. Germaine Edwards was out.

Yeah, he was out too. Yep. Pittsburgh, Cincinnati. I don't know what to make of the Bengal passing game last week. Joe Mixon is balling that we know. Steelers getting run on lately. Big Ben seemed to play pretty well last week. It may have been his best game on tape for the year. Greg, I'm sure you didn't see that team. Not yet. No, I saw Herbert, but not Big Ben. Okay. Which is amazing, John. Think about it. He flew on his own to get to the game. First quarter, you know, was a kind of fill-out process.

He was really great in the first quarter, but he started to get steam. And you saw there going back and forth. There was just an amazing game. You know, you- Brian is likely out, I think. Yes. Good news for Fryer Muth. Yeah. If you look at Pittsburgh right now, their line has got issues.

They've got some guys who are banged up there. It's not great to begin with. That does concern me a little bit. Secondary, Hayden is out of practice. Yep. Hayden's got a sprain foot. They're given them a chance, though, to play. Fitzpatrick hasn't been cleared yet off the COVID list.

And TJ Watts should be able to play, is my understanding on that way. Oh, well, that would be absolutely massive. He worked today. He should be able to go. So Mixing, Najee Harris, you're rolling with Deontay, Jemar Chase. It is a good matchup in the slot for Tyler Boyd. But I just don't know how much we can trust, you know, Tyler Boyd, Greg. When you've watched the tape of the Bengal offense, it just doesn't seem like Tyler

Boyd has been nearly the factor. It's been pretty Higgins heavy, but, you know, like I thought Boyd would have a little larger role this year. He doesn't feel like he's like really in this offense, you know, on the season. I think that's very fair, John. That's a good point. Assuming what Adam said about Fitzpatrick and, you know, who knows who's going to play what they did this past week, just so you know, they play different people in their nickel and their dime, which is very, very interesting. They're not the only team that does that, but it's interesting because in the nickel, the slot corner is Mollett. And he does not play in the dime. In the dine, Sutton moves inside, basically, as the slot corner. And they bring in Joseph

as the third safety. So it's very interesting what they do with different people. So maybe this is a good week for boy. It seems so when you look at what the Steelers put out there, but he doesn't seem to be targeted a lot. Well, you know, I like that. You know, I like that. you back that up a little bit. I mean, they are giving up the ninth most points per game out, two slot receivers. Yeah. You did get target last week. Yeah.

I just kind of feel like this makes sense for Boyd. Yeah. All right. See, this is what we do. We find these angles and we take our hat and then we hang our hat on it and then we just sleep like a baby. Well, and also, John, remember, the Steelers, when you talk about the run game, they're given up.

They're without alo-a-a-a-lo for the season to broke his ankle. Stefan, too, it's still not back yet. So, yeah, you could run on this team. Well, isn't Hayward hurt on the injury report? Oh, that looks like a veteran rest. Yeah, he's going to play. One other point, if I could, based on tape. Yep.

Bush really struggles in past coverage. Just keep that in mind. I mean, he doesn't see things real well. He doesn't react real well. He's a great athlete. And I hate to use this word, but everybody will know what it means. His instincts and past coverage are not very good. He's a slow processor.

That is very disappointing because he was supposed to be the opposite. Well, no, people are talking about him because he's a great athlete. Yeah. There's a difference. Right. Right. But no, John, I've noticed. I mean, he gave up one touchdown this week to Echler where he just, it was on him 100%.

Oh, and by the way, John, Ray Ray McLeod's on the COVID list because you know a couple weeks ago he had a ton of targets. Yeah. No, with Ebron probably not playing. I mean, Claypool's role is just going to continue to grow. and good for Friar and Youth and potentially good for Joe Mixen. Yeah. Didn't get targets last week, but he has been getting plenty of them this year.

Jets and Texans, I got to say, I do like Tyrod in this game. Obviously, the Jets are really struggling. But Adam, it's Zach Wilson, right? He's in, right? He's in, yep. In fact, it's funny because the head coach was saying, well, what are you going to do if something happens with, with Zach Wilson. He goes, well, we're kind of running out of

quarterbacks, but we'll figure out a way to get Josh Johnson in there if we need to. You know, Greg, Zach Wilson himself, I guess, you know, basically said that early on he was looking for the big play and, you know, not taking the checkdown or whatever. I mean, is that somewhat consistent?

What are the issues that you've come to mind when you think of Zach Wilson thus far this year? Lack of discipline on his drop. lack of the right kind of drop based on the route concepts, just an overall lack of nuance and detail and discipline to his game, which he got away with in college all the time. And he won't get away with it in the NFL. So again, maybe sitting out has helped.

We won't know that. He certainly can throw the ball. He's got a live arm. He certainly can move. He's an athletic kid. But the details of the position, the disciplined craft nature of the position, and he needed a lot of work.

Fair. Obviously, I'm certainly right in line with, you know, my eyeball test for what it's worth here. But our guy, Elijah Moore, you know, six or more targets in four straight games. I mean, Greg, I mean, he is a talented throw over the football. If Joe Flacco, who joined the team like 12 days earlier, can get eight grabs for a buck 41 and a touchdown from Elijah Moore, I mean, it would be, I mean, this is not a deal breaker for those of us who, or looking for Elijah Moore to keep producing, right? No, and Elijah Moore is going to be a great player. I mean, I think his college tape showed that.

I think he's performed really well as a rookie. He's, he's, obviously his target share will be week to week because we don't know what Zach Wilson is at this point, John. We hope that he gets a lot of targets. But Zach Moore, I mean, Elijah Moore is going to be a really good player. Yeah, I think we're, I think we're home now, where we're not going to get a bunch of Keeling Cole. and Bernard Braxton Berrios and Jeff Smith.

You know, it's Davis, it's more, it's Crowder. Please, you know. Yeah. Adam, on the other side of things here, the Texans backfield, I know you got a little nug there. People love nugs. Well, yeah. Backfield.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what they're going to do, he's, unfortunately, he's, I don't know if he's ready because he's on the practice squad, but he's actually on injured reserve. When Scotty Phillips is healthy, they're going to get he's going to get a look they're going to i don't want to feature is not the right word they're going to give him a real shot they want to take a look at him before the season ends unfortunately got hurt so that's one thing they're going to do yeah sorry i actually mix that up

with the other backfield my bad i can't keep but no but that but i'll tell you that royce freeman i think royce freeman's going to get a chance here well no he's healthy and scotty phillips is not but they made it very clear that scotty phillips is going to get a pretty serious look once he gets healthy um in philip lindsay who's now with the dolphins he was claimed off waivers by Oh, right, exactly. Yeah, I knew there was something there with the damn. David Johnson's just like, how about Burkett getting all this cars this week?

Yeah, well, I do think Tyrock can get it done. He ran last week and all that. Brian Cooks, I guess, it's veteran rest aid most likely. Yeah, they do that every Wednesday with him. Yep. Tampa Indy. This is a pretty interesting matchup here. Greg, what do you think in general?

Todd Bowles and this defense against Frank Reich. he does have, you know, the best running game in the league right now to probably, you know, take the bugs off their mark a little bit here. I feel pretty good at where Carson wins. I thought, you know, from what I saw, it looked like Carson played well last week. He did. He did. Yeah, okay.

No, he did. In fact, he only threw 20 times when he made a couple of big time throws. Went to Pittman on second and 14. Went to Hilton on third down where he got pressure. He made a couple of big time throws. He just didn't have to throw it a lot because of the way the game played out. yeah i'm i was watching and thinking you know man eagles fans are like this guy's pretty good you know i mean we can we win with this guy but uh um on the other side of things here oh well then john you

are not following social media this week you were just not following social media terms of because eagles fans i mean jalen hertz is in the hall of fame now oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it's the same fans that were killing him earlier this season yeah three weeks ago the guy should have been benched now the same people have them in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I was saying today, actually, I'm like, Eagle fans probably like, they don't know what to think. They don't know what to do. Yeah. Yeah. You know, well, Brady's seen everything before. I feel, and Adam, you can give us an update on AB because it was out of practice today. So I don't know, that's not great. They had a walk through though. They didn't practice. Okay. I feel like Gronk is like a big time difference

maker, Greg, obviously did well last week. Scotty Miller's off I are. Yep. Yeah. We'll play this week. Our teams, you know, like it seems like teams are playing those two high safeties a lot too. I mean, that seems like a thing now, a trend, Greg,

to kind of eliminate these explosive offenses. And a guy like Gronk there in the middle of the field, I mean, he was out there roaming the earth last week. Yeah, no, that has become a trend. I would expect to see the Colts do that because I don't believe they can match up. So I think you'll see that. You know, keep one thing in mind about Brady.

A lot of people play this way because they feel that quarterbacks will not be patient. Brady will be patient. Brady will take the seven years. I mean, look, they literally came out the other night knowing they would get two shell, John, and their whole game playing was geared toward throwing the ball seven yards. And Tom already did and filed his taxes in the pocket last year. Right, right, right. So, I mean, he's one of those guys that I think that he will take the throws that are presented right away.

You know, he'll go second and three every time. And the Colts give up the sixth highest EPA per attempt to tight ends on the season. So, Adam, I think it's a grunk game. But where are we at? Where are you at with A.B? You always have a good sense for this. Yeah, so he's going to, he's barring something unforeseen. going to work this week. I don't know what their practice schedule for Thanksgiving is. I'm not sure.

I expect him to work. I think he's going to push it to play. It's just going to matter of how does he respond on this arch injury after he practices. It's really not really a true ankle injury. I'm still optimistic, but until he gets out there, they're not going to know because he's worked out really well on the side. There was a Carlton Davis update this week. Yeah, he's he's working this week. I don't know that he plays this week, but once they get him back, they're going to be pretty good. David Vane is going to play this week, barring something on the machine. Oh, really?

Okay. Yep. Yep. Oh, man. I'm fascinated to see, John, how the Colts won to run the ball in this game. Because they had a specific plan against the bills because the bills play a certain way with their defensive front.

I'm so curious to see what their plan is this week because they're going to try to run. It's not as if they're going to go in the game and say, we're not going to give the ball to Jonathan Taylor. I mean, Taylor right now is like a hitter on a streak up their head in watermelon. it seems like, you know, I mean, geez. I've already up my game on Taylor, you know, I'm going Hall of Fame now, guys. If he stays healthy, easy, easy. All the fame, easy.

Now, he is, I'll tell you what, though, and I need to ask some personal people, why the hell didn't he go in the first round? Did you see, how did C.E.H? We love Andy Reid. It was Andy Reid's call. Why did he like CEH over Taylor? It's not like Tara couldn't catch the ball. The past game element.

Right, but Greg, here's a question for you. Studying his Wisconsin tape, did he show that he couldn't catch it? No. So, I mean, he showed he could catch it. Yeah, so I don't know. I, I, yeah, that's a, that's a, it's a pretty bad miss. And as you guys, I'm sorry, as you guys recall, John, I know you recall this, I said Taylor last year coming out in the draft was the best runner in the draft. Mm-hmm. No question. And then I took everything that you said in my own studies or whatever. And Adam, if you recall, I, I, I pounded the table on Taylor and as a receiver because I watch, I'm like, he's very comfortable. natural. He is so good, though, Greg. I mean, maybe I'm just going crazy here. I don't know what it is. Maybe I see he's real, like, he's high quality. You got old romance working, John.

Yeah. Hey, Greg, do you know his agent is? I do not. Barry Gardner from Eagles linebacker. Wow. Are you serious? Yeah. I didn't even know he was an agent. Yeah, he used to work with Blake Barrett's. Yeah. Where is Barry based at her? I don't know where Barry. I bet she's South Jersey, Philly. I'm not. I'm not. 100% positive, but what a score for Barry, man. Do you know Barry Gardner? Yeah, I know a little bit. Yeah. Good guy. Good dude. Wow. That's, uh, BG. Illinois. Yeah. Anyway, uh, I just think, I mean, he's got elite qualities in every compartment in his toolbox. You know what I mean? And the line is good. Oh, by the way,

we should add this. They're pretty healthy. They do expect Nelson to play. It's the healthiest they've bit all season. The only problems, they don't have the safeties. They don't have the safeties. The natural power that he has, Greg, I don't know. I think it's a little underrated. Well, he's 226 pounds. Yeah, he's a big dude, man. I mean, people don't think of him that way, because he's busting off all these big plays. He's got life for a guy as big as he is. And keep one thing in mind, he was a sprinter in high school. Oh, I know. That's what I'm saying, you know. Salem, New Jersey. There you go. Absolutely. I mean, it's incredible how good he is. Atlanta, Jacksonville, it's incredible how bad these teams are.

I got nothing, John. Sorry. Oh, I got, I got, I got, the only thing. Atlanta, because I watched the Patriots on both sides. The only thing I have is that Leviska-Shadol may have a chance to get some touches at him with Agnew now out. Yeah. They're going to move Chanel back inside, maybe not as much as earlier in the career, but pretty sad when you got Laquan shredbel out there running routes on the outside, though, Adam. Yeah, and they were so excited about Agnew. They thought they got a steal and free agency.

and he's done for the season. They're just, they're struggling. It's Marvin Jones had the one great game in London. He hasn't done much since then. They're struggling. They're just, and they're going to have to blow their offensive lineup next year. They've had, it's kind of had enough. It hadn't worked out.

James Robinson should play. Sorry, Adam there. Greg, you have seen the Jagdee. Is this a, people will look at the schedule and, oh, it's the Jags. I'm starting Matt Ryan. you would probably advise some caution there. Like this is obviously not a cakewalk for the underman Falcons. No, no, I think they're deep for the most part has over the last number of weeks,

because I've seen them over the last number of weeks, has actually played pretty well, particularly the front group against the run. So, and now we know the Falcons are not a big running team. They, you know, they don't get a lot of rushing yards to begin with. But I think their defensive front has played pretty well. I know they gave up a lot of yards to the Niners, but you had the Samuel factor, which is a little different,

which is not going to happen with the, well, I guess it could with court. Is Corderole Patterson back this week? Yeah, he's working limited. Well, that'll be interesting,

John, just as an aside, because Patterson, in a sense, and Samuel can be used in very similar ways. You know, you could argue they're similar players. Cadreallison getting opportunities here.

The Jaguars do give up production. The data suggests they have been vulnerable to tight ends. But Kyle Pitts is a different animal, right? Greg, you can't even apply that, right? He's a wide receiver. Yeah, I mean, he'll split out an awful lot, clearly. Do they play sides with Trey Herndon and? Herding doesn't play anymore, John.

Who are the corners here? Well, Griffin got hurt last week. What's his status? Right. Don't know. I don't know yet. Because Griffin is their match-up corner. He would match up to the top receiver, John, but he got hurt last week, so I do not know what his status is.

I don't either. He seems to be doing well this year. Have you noticed him? I mean, I haven't studied him, but I do know he's matched up. Okay. Yeah, Campbell, Tyson, Camel got an AC joint sprain, but they're optimistical play. Yeah, he's been playing opposite Griffin. Let's go to Carolina and Miami. Adam, I'll go to you on injuries. I guess another week with

no Parker and Fuller. Yeah, and in Parker, they're both on, they remain on IR. The Panthers are in really good physical shape. They're fine. The only thing for the dolphins of note, no, they should be, they're pretty good here. No, they're actually good. So that they're, and the the Panthers are going to get their offensive line back. It's not very good, but they're going to pretty much have all the guys that had been hurt. They're going to be back this week. Duke Johnson? Yep.

Is he someone that might challenge for significant? I don't just third down and change up, you know, back at Gasker. It's weird because Gaskin's pretty good in that role. Although Gaskin hasn't really done that much in the passing game this year. To Otunga Veloa, I don't know about him in this matchup. Greg, any thoughts on Tua this week? Might not have to throw it a ton. Oh, he's off the injury report, John.

By the way, for the first time, it's seven weeks. He's off the injury report. Yeah. What was that? Tuah. Finally. Yeah, fine.

Yeah. It's a good thing. Yeah. Any thoughts on this Panther D against Tua? This is a little scary. I think the secondary is, I mean, compared to the other secondaries in the league, I'd lean a little bit to the shutdown secondary realm there. Any thoughts?

Carolinas, I haven't seen their defense in a couple of weeks. I do not know. I won't be watching them, but I can't answer that right now. All right, not a problem. And Tua is also still working with secondary, ancillary types. I mean, Waddle is supposed to be the three. He's the one. And then, you know, Mack Hollins and Wilson.

So, I mean, maybe in that sense, Greg, can we properly evaluate Tua? it's one of those things where, you know, he's not really, sometimes he doesn't really do much to make the bad situation any better, but on the other hand, it's a bad situation. Can we grade two of this year? The O line is not good. They don't pass protect well. Parker's been mostly out of the lineup.

No Fuller. He's been hurt to. I mean, do we almost look at this year like, ah, you can't really grade to it? We don't still know who he is or, you know, where's career is going? Well, I think we know who he is. I don't think you can grade him from a fantasy. perspective. But I think we know what he is as a player, but I think the fantasy part is hard to judge.

I think we know what he is, but we don't know if he's going to get to a point where he can narrow it down and be precise and play at a high level, like a Drew Breeze. You know what I mean? Correct. Is he good or not, you know? Right. So. I mean, and then you need a coach to work with the fact that he's essentially a pocket player. He can't drive the ball. He's a rhythm player. So you need all that to work together. So, you know, from a fantasy perspective, I think it's hard to know, but, you know, they're going to have to,

they'll find out over this last stretch of games because hopefully he can stay healthy and be on the field. I mean, I thought Cam looked pretty good. I mean, I don't know if you saw that tape, Greg. I did not. Yeah. Adam, you know, I jokingly said,

you don't need to look at the scoreboard when their Panthers are playing now because you could tell if they're winning a losing just by camps, you know, smile or lack their own. But I thought he looked pretty good overall here. I mean, they have an interesting schedule. And being that they said he's healthy, there's nothing wrong.

It's kind of a, you know, this week with the Dolphins Man coverage, we'll see what they do. And then they play Atlanta, which is a sort of matchup. Then it gets hard for them at Buffalo, home against the Bucks. And the Saints D is no joke. So not great for their, for Cam. I know you like Cam a little bit. I know you were talking about it last week on our show. I'm a little bit worried about their schedule.

Greg, speaking of that Miami-D, might we have any concerns that they do what they did to the Ravens two weeks ago against Cam? Not to that extent. I think that's part of what they do. And you could see it selectively. They're not going to do it, John, as much as they did against the Ravens.

No. Okay. I do like the fact that it's just DJ. more now and Robbie Anderson. I don't know what's gone on with Terrence Marshall, by the way. I mean, he's not done. He's been quiet. Yeah. Yeah. It was heard earlier the season, but now. Well, keep in mind, John,

keep in mind, they really had a very limited passing game the last four or five weeks with Darnold. So it was, it was just a function of targets. I mean, Darnold was for the most part not very good at all. I know. I thought maybe when they traded Dan Arnold. I'm like,

all right, you know, but not really. Titans Patriots. This is my concern, Greg, when you have the Patriots against a team that's struggling like Belichick and these guys smell blood in the water, man. So I'm very concerned about Ryan Tannenhill and the Titans here this week in New England. I mean, you've seen the tape here.

I mean, is it a tough watch because they don't have this running game to work off of? And AJ Brown's in a lineup. It's kind of a disaster. Kind of. I mean, they've only had 320 plus yard completions in the last three weeks. And one was a screen to form, and in the other was to Johnson on his quick slant with run after catch. And the third was a busted coverage this week by the Texans.

So there are difficult offense to watch right now, John. Again, you know, it's the NFL. You never know what's going to happen. But as we sit here tonight and talk about this game, I'm wondering how the Titans are going to really move the ball and score points. Exactly. 100% when you have some limitations, they're going to really put the clams down and just shut down your offense. I mean, the three receivers who got the most snaps last week were the rookie Des. Fitzpatrick, who they had cut and brought back, Jester Rogers, and Nick Westbrook-Eakini.

Those were the three receivers who got the most snaps. John, that's bad. I mean, they were like dying without Jeff Swain. Okay, enough second. Well, you saw who they signed this week, right? of the 13 transactions yesterday? Did you see that they signed? Yep.

Oh, Golden Tate? Yep. Very quietly. Yes, he did. Yeah. So they are, John, they are so worried. No, it's a smart time.

Coming home, he's from that area. Okay. That's a good one, though. Yep. Wow. We don't know if it's a good one. He hasn't, no one signed. Well, it's better than any, but here's the thing,

though, it's better than anyone they have. I know. I assume if they signed him, he's not a paraplegic right now. You know what I mean? They're so bad at receiver. Well, you know, it's funny. I actually did Nashville radio today. And I said, you know, I watched the tape early in the week of their offense. And I made a note to myself, I said,

you know, Adrian Peterson can't play anymore. Now he just runs to get tackled. I guess they felt the same way because they did. Yes. You're right. You're correct. They think he's done. Yeah. That's always a nice feeling. Hilliard's going to be the lead back. And he looked the best of the backs, by the way. He's going to be the lead back for now. And then we'll see how he handles it. Foreman apparently had a very bad mental error. So he's, yeah, he's, uh, he did. That's a crap we don't know about. Okay.

I don't just let you know. All right. Marcus Johnson, unfortunately, Marcus Johnson on I. for the second time season, so he cannot come back. So what was most impressive? So he's done for the year? Yep. Even if they make the playoffs.

Yep. By rule, he can't, you can't be on IR twice and come back. Okay. What were your impressions of, uh, Dantrell Hill, you're running and receiving, Greg? I liked him. I thought he was. their best back hands down. I thought he showed some juice, got downhill. He only ran out of 11 personnel. It was almost all outside zone. And he showed the ability to one cut to see things and

showed short area of birth. He was far and away their best runner on tape. Of course, this is a nasty matchup here against New England overall here. Boy, that Barmore is a big dude and good. I think the key to their defense is Kyle Dugger and Adrian Phillips. They do not. play base defense. They play big nickel. So, so those two guys are absolutely critical. They're physical and competitive in the box. Yeah, Dugger has been, uh, coming on here. Mm-hmm.

What do you like undrafted? No, it was a second round pick out of Lenore Ryan. My bad. I'm confusing him with someone else. Oh, oh, oh, Lenore Ryan. I know, I've heard of that. There's, there's been a couple of other guys there. Mac Jones and this matchup. It's just going to be one of these boring games, Greg, where they probably just run the ball.

Look, we know Mac Jones, John, has played well. That's not in question, but they're a running football team. Do you know that Stevenson and Harris combined have more carries than Jonathan Taylor? They're a running football team. They're among the league leaders in rushing attempts, and they do it old school. They line up with Jones under center,

and they hand the ball off. And keep in mind, they're rushing yardage numbers, which are also in the top seven or eight, I believe. There's no quarterback element to that because Jones is not a runner. So they're old school when they run the ball. Yeah, so McCorkel Jones is going to be thrown at like 19 times in this game. Did you see Stevenson on tape last week? Do you see that 20?

I saw them. Yeah. How'd you like that 20 run that was called back? I guess maybe the hold helped the run, but that was nice. It looks good. I think when, you know, I think hopefully Harris stays healthy. I think he's a better runner. But, you know, they have a one, two punch there.

That's pretty good. And they run the ball. Yeah, no doubt. Eagles Giants, well, weekly check-in on Philly. Greg is the arrow continuing to point upward with Jalen Hertz. I mean, are we still ascending here and getting a little bit better? He's a great fantasy player because they're running the Ravens offense. So everything starts with him.

He's the foundation of a multiple run game. and a past game that just deals with core concepts. Ideally, they want to do what they've done the last number of weeks, not throw it a whole lot. So you're not going to see a ton of target share for receivers, John. It'll be Smith and Goddard. The rest of the guys, you know, they'll take a shot here and there at O'Watkins. They'll throw a screen here and there, you know, to Rager.

But there's, but it's Smith and Goddard. And it's Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hertz is a great fantasy player because it's, It's the whole offense is now about him as a runner and everything works off that. Talk about, oh, the quarterback touches the ball in every play. I mean, Hertz is like the guy on every play in fantasy for numbers and all that. You got to give Sirianic credit to completely change his offense. It's just, it's pretty interesting to decide, hey, you know what?

We're going to take the air out of the football because they were throwing it way too much. He was averaging 35 times a game through six weeks. And it was really that Raider game where they got blown out. They actually ran the ball 32 times. a lot of people don't realize that. And then they've been running it like crazy. I mean, they went from John and have the fewest amount of carries for running back to the National Football League after six weeks. They're number two in rushing in the National Football League.

Well, it's very apropos or very indicative of the season because there are no trends. Yeah, true, right. How about that giant pass rush or lack they're up? What has happened, Greg, to the Giants' defense this season? that's a great question. I don't have a great answer for that because I haven't studied them enough. But I think there was a sense coming off last year when they were very solid that they have. I mean, clearly, here's what the Giants thought going into the season,

that their defense would be able to keep them in every game. And that bringing in Jason Garrett would allow Daniel Jones to grow and develop as a quarterback. Unfortunately, neither one has happened. Adam, you, uh, damn it, down the wrong pike. Adam, you know the Giants, what they bring to the table. Where in the Eagle defense can they get opportunities? I would have to look at Evan Ingram and the tied end because the corners are good right now. All right.

So a couple things there, Dary Slay has a got cleared to play yet. If they don't, if he doesn't play, I'm not saying the Giants will win because we'll get into Freddie Kitchens in a minute. That changes everything. Zach McPherson is not ready. The fourth round pick. This is a mistake the Eagles had. They didn't go out and get a veteran quarterback.

corner as a backup. This is going to be a problem for them because they, they this this Gannon, the deep French coordinator could coached sometimes where he coached to the limitations of the personality has, which I understand. So keep, we'll keep an eye on Slai if it gets clear and I. If it gets clear, they'll be fine. Freddie Kitchens, by the way, I talked to someone who's coached with him. He believes in spreading it out a little bit. I got, I want to see, I got to take a look at some of the numbers when he coached. But this guy said that he likes, he's going to go a lot of 11 personnel he thinks based on what he knows about him. Well, I mean, that would Greg make sense, given the strength of the Giants receiving

Corps, they do have good depth. And even without Shepard, who was out of practice, he's not playing. No? Yeah. He's got a quadruci. Cadarius had a practice too, about it. Five weeks, yeah. Always hurt.

Cadarius popped up with a car. Oh, he's got a quadriceps contusion. We'll see. I think Kyle Rudolph may not go. That could help, Evan. Yeah. Well, that'll help. Yeah, that'll help them play maybe a little bit more 11.

Yeah, no doubt. Sequin, what are the prospects, Adam? I'll ask you, Saquoan Barkley, against this eagle defense. You know, the Eagles don't stop the run. They control it better than they were earlier this season. You know, Greg could say, you know, talk about what he sees, but yeah, I mean, when there have been some weeks where it's funny,

you don't see backs killing the Eagles in the past game like I thought they would because Eagles aren't very good at linebacker in terms of coverage, but they're not, I'm not quite, I'm not, obviously, Camara not playing last week was a factor that I would have loved to have seen what Camara would have done against them. Well, I wonder what Joe Judge had problems with, you know, Jason Garrett not running or trying to run it a little bit more. I mean, Barclay only had six carries, so I could see them trying to come out and run it, right?

Their lack of imagination was a problem. And this is really not, it was not his idea to hire Garrett. It was his call. But, you know, Garrett's very close to ownership from his time there with the Giants. And they wanted him to talk to him. He did. He hired him, you know,

and it just didn't work out. I mean, their lack of creativity is probably the biggest indictment on him. Greg, uh, Barclay, and it's a tough one, obviously, I mean, the guys had a multitude of injuries and he's still kind of dealing with it. He was clearly limping the other night. I don't know, I don't know where, when this year, like, what I'd like to see is maybe him play three, four game.

in a row and be healthy and then evaluate them because I don't see the same quite the same explosiveness and quick twitchiness. Any thoughts there on Barclay? I know it's a tough one, but I'd like to see him get the ball. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think let's start there. I mean, you know, I think theoretically, and Adam could speak to this too, theoretically, the plan was for Barkley to be the foundation and the starting point and to work off that. Yeah. And obviously he's been hurt. So, you know, I know that changes everything.

But at some point, I think you got to see if that can happen. I kind of feel like I said this, Adam, I kind of feel like with the injuries, maybe robbing him. He might end up being like a grinder. Is that insane? Oh, yeah. I thought that was interesting. If his legs go.

I could see him ended up, you know, being a 300 carry grinder at like 4.1 yards of Karen. Almost making a transition like Clinton Fortis made. That's exact. That's the name I brought that up today. That's the exact name I brought up, Greg. Really? Yes. Because Clinton Ford is the first two years in Denver was an explosive back. And then when he went to Washington, he became a grinder. I can kind of see Barkley being a grinder. Yeah. So we'll see. The grinder, Tom Broley might be watching this right now. That's our nickname for Tom, because no one grinds like him. But yeah, okay. And, you know, Brawley and Barkley, both a couple of Penn State guys.

By there, everything's... Raleigh's getting the ball about as much as Barclay as he. Chargers, Broncos. Would help of their defense, though, could keep him in the game, but that's another story. Good. Yeah, Chargers, Broncos, Greg. Justin Herbert has been a little bit of a roller drive, but we were going down, you

know, with our hands in the air last week, I guess. He was brilliant, I see. Yeah, I watched Herbert. He's, I mean, I don't think I'm adding anything that you guys don't know. As long as it seems, John, as long as they don't play the Patriots, he's going to be fine. Well, I mean, that's, but our West Yuber pointed out there, he's not been great against man-to-man heavy defenses.

Oh, okay. And I don't know why, Greg. That's a little bit of a weird one for me. But, I mean, the data shows that Justin Herbert in his young career struggles against man-heavy teams. Really? Yeah. And the Broncos play man the most than any other defense in football per sports info solutions through week 10. Let me see something about that. You know, because I saw that and I also saw that

Herbert friggin crushed him last year. So I don't know, maybe they weren't playing man last year as much. I don't know. I can't recall. Interesting. Nevertheless. But no Bryce Callahan is big. It's not. It's not. numbers against cover one are not bad at all. They're not phenomenal, but they're not bad at all. But it's a drop off compared to other shells. Like I'll put in cover three, see what, no, what comes up there. And that's pretty good. You got that little program there right there. I mean, he's better against cover three, but yeah, I wouldn't go, oh my God. Right, right. Yeah. And they only play it half the time. And by the way, based on his numbers against cover

one, I would not use the word struggle. Right. Yeah, maybe that was not a great word, but like kind of it reduces, he's, he's less effective. A little bit, but not to the point we had to go, God, he can't play against number one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah. But all right, well, that's good to know. Herbert's a rarity. He's a power thrower with precise ball location. There's not many guys like that. Troy Aikman was like that. Carson Palmer was like that. There's not many guys like that. Yeah.

And then no Bryce Callahan is a big loss, especially with Keenan Allen out there. So we shall see. And Echler's been hot. Broncos. Oshamudy is getting close to being activated. I don't know how much you'll play, but just so you know.

The corner, yes. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Would be nice coming out of the bite. They made a little bit of a commitment to Devonte Williams. I kind of sense it coming, but maybe I'm dreaming.

Melvin's been pretty good, obviously, and they'll try and run it. And Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton, I don't love the matchup here overall for Teddy. But, you know, and then again, Teddy, I guess, is a guy who tends Greg to do a little bit better on zone in his career. So the chargers don't, they seem to be about middle of the pack on that. So they're about 67%. So they're toward the bottom on that. But Teddy's tough to trust, but it does have weapons. I do like Jerry Judy.

Oh, no offense this week is a good one because the charges have been very, very giving to tight ends. So a little. They're giving up so much production. I don't know what. Greg, here's a question for you. The numbers that that's charges defense have given up are astronomical. What do you see when you watch Staley's defense? You know, I'm struggling with that because.

Okay. I feel like this is the terrible thing to say about a defense. And but sometimes I feel like watching it that the, the throws are too easy. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I don't know the answer to that. I have to really do like a study of just that defense.

But sometimes it just seems like it's too easy. I don't know, you know, Staley obviously is a super smart guy. Yep. And I'm sure he's trying to figure all this out, you know, and it's his first year and, you know, guys are in that out of the lineup. for different reasons, but it's that, that's, that's what I see. Rams Packers. But John, that's great for fantasy, what Greg just said.

Yeah. And it's just too easy for the opposing quarterbacks. That's, that's my note. That's what I would take out of that. Rams Packers, Greg, I got to say, if there's any, any time to deviate from your plan with Jail and Ramsey, it's got to be, it's got to be this one here against Devante Adams, but I guess they, maybe. I mean, we don't know the answer to that.

This is a team that's as zone heavy a team as any in the league. They do not play much man coverage. They are near the bottom of the league playing man coverage. So maybe they step out this week. That I would have no way to know that, John. I'll leave that to you as far as a projection. But all I can tell you is they haven't really done that this year with very few exceptions. Yeah.

Well, just a mere presence and possibility of it has me shaved off a little bit on Devante. So they're going to have to stay patient. I mean, I was having this conversation with Matt Bowen today. Think about if Jalen Ramsey played for the Patriots. He'd be playing man coverage and matching up to every big time and see. Yeah, he would. Oh, totally. You know, John, they were, the Rams were playing what they're doing now.

The Raiders, I was talking the Raiders about this when they practice with them. They could not believe that they had Ramsey inside, like the whole, the two days that they practiced with. Yeah. I wonder what the thinking is from a. I would love to know. Yeah. Because, you know, you guys know well enough to know. I never think I'm smarter than coaches.

But it seems to me you're taking a guy that's arguably the best pure man cover corner in the league, given his combination of traits and his size is a trait because he's a big dude. And you're not allowing him to line up and play man coverage. Well, maybe they just view him as a chess piece, you know. Well, they do obviously. They don't want to minimize and limit that, you know. I guess it's two different approaches. Greg, you've got to run in about four minutes.

So I don't know, I can wrap this up. But between Minnesota, San Fran, Cleveland, Baltimore, and Seattle, the football team, I don't think we need to spend much on that. But anything, any riveting thoughts, anything jump out from your tape study of any of those clubs? Greg, what's up with Minnesota's defense? Why are they struggling so badly? Well, Minnesota's defense, and it's funny, I was watching them right before I came on here. They're doing some different things.

They've got some issues up front, and now Everson Griffin, I assume, is probably not going to play this week. They've been moving Sheldon Richardson outside to rush the quarterback. They're trying to find ways to rush the quarterback. They're playing some big nickel, which I don't recall Mike Zimmer playing very much, if at all. So I think he's trying to find ways to make things work. Peterson was back this week.

They don't really use him as a matchup corner either. Well, they didn't this week. It was first week back. I'm really curious to see what Cleveland does. Baker Mayfield did not throw the ball well last week. He missed routine throws. What I'm curious to see is if they can run the ball against Baltimore. Well, we get Karim Hutt back.

Is he back? It's Trenton, Churchill, he's not official. And they have run the ball against them over the last two years, Greg, as you know. Yeah, they have. I know. They had a big running game. I think it might have been last year. year where they ran for a boatload of yards.

Couple hundred, I think. Yeah. So, you know, that's a key. But even doing that, Baker's missing too many routine throws. Which made you can't use anyone here. I mean, all hands. Landry, John, Landry's knee is bad. I mean, he's playing on it, but it's not good.

Yeah. For Cleveland. All right. And I guess Lamar is going to be back. Hollywood Brown back. Seattle. Greg, you've- I saw that.

their offensive tape. It's a tough watch right now, John. They want to run the ball. They want to run the ball. Russell Wilson is is not seeing things. He's not turning it loose. He's late with throws. He's not playing very well right now. Yeah. And I think they need to give an opportunity to DJ Dallas. I like that kid, DJ Dallas. A little flash. Yeah. Flash a little bit. Greg, you know. Yeah, I remember watching him coming out of the U. I thought, you know, he's that he could play in the league. but, you know, Penny was back and got hurt on the first play, but then came back. So we'll see. Yeah.

Well, Greg, we can let your run here. I know you have to. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah. I don't think. Yeah. So happy Thanksgiving, Greg. We'll talk with you on Friday.

See it's Sunday. Yep. That's right. You'll see you tomorrow and Friday, though, guys. Nice. Okay. All right. Thanks, guys.

You got it. Happy Thanksgiving there. And Adam, just to wrap it up here for the football team, Logan Thomas. He's back. And, uh, I've got them already at like 13. You know, it's a little optimistic here, but he practices all week. It's a good matchup by the number.

Yeah, if he gets through practice, yeah, so they'll activate him, but they got to see. He had a setback a couple weeks ago, so you got to make sure they get through practice. I got to give it to Taylor Heineke. I'm very surprised. He's a gunslinger. Boy, did I miss on the Panthers defense last week? Got the Eagles right, but I missed the Panthers. I'm shocked.

I'm just shocked that Heineke, you know, he's a tough guy to stop. I mean, good luck figuring out fantasy defense. I can't believe you're doing that. I retired from doing that crap, man. Yeah, I look for a couple streamers a week, but that was, yeah, what didn't happen for me. Yeah. I don't have much else here. McLaren, you're rolling with him.

I wouldn't use Logan. But it's a shame about our guy Gibson. Man, he looked, he ran angrily after that. It runs hard. He just doesn't have because of the shin. He doesn't, he's not explosive. You know, it's funny. He's going to wind up with 10 to 12 touchdowns, which is kind of what I was expecting,

but he won't have the yards. He's not going to catch us now either. I know. Can we get the guy too damn design plays a game in a passing game? Yeah. Yeah. Jeez. Because he had that 70-yard touchdown.

That was beauty. Yeah, that was a great catch. I mean, you know that that's a possibility. You can do that. Yeah, he's just not ready to do it. Yeah. So Thomas has started practicing this week. They're not definitely saying he's playing yet, as I understand it.

but he's, he's trending towards it. All right. Well, that'll wrap it up here, early week edition. I'm going to update some of the, some propage. Finally had a big week this past week to help out my, my record. I'm going to try and focus on them a little bit more down the stretch,

Mr. C. Wait, you mean your teams? No, no, no. I put out prop bets. Oh, okay. And I think I was, I mean, it wasn't that great. I think it was like nine and three last week. It's been tough, man.

It really has been. It's tough for a big game. It's just, it's really hard. Nobody, it's all gut feel because you can use all the analytics you want, the numbers, and they just, you think you know,

based on matchups and they just don't come up happening. Something crazy happens. You know, there's certain things we know. The Titans, barring a shock will get blown out, that they might not score on Sunday. Now that, that will be a game where you go, if the Titans somehow shock us, that would be an example of the season.

There's no way to think the Titans will be able to do anything on offense. Right. I think everyone gets it too because I don't really get complaints anymore, honestly. Like people are like, hey, we know, man. Right. I don't really see people bitching. It sucks. I'm just frustrated on certain situations that need to happen.

Oh, I was, you know. Every week, there's two or three calls that piss you off. Yeah. I agree. No, I agree. Look, tomorrow will be fine. Sweet Cole Commet, by the way. Still mad.

Yeah, Col Command. I was disappointed. What else? What else? Well, Mahomes and the banana and a tailpipe trick. Boy, well, how about that, huh? You think tomorrow's going to be fun? I'm expecting Mooney.

There's Lions. Mooney. Come on. Let's go. Right? Yeah, well, it'll be fun just watching Mooney. By the way, I thought he did well last year on Thanksgiving, didn't he? I don't remember.

Did he? Did he? Wait. a look. Did they play on Thanksgiving? No. No. Okay.

They did, I believe. Oh, maybe they didn't. Maybe I'm thinking something else. Okay. I guess they didn't. No, they did. No, with, no, with, um, the chubby quarterback. What's his name?

Chase Daniel. Oh, all right. I think, yes. Damn it. But Mooney was a rookie. Yeah, maybe it was 2019. I'm thinking, uh, this, uh, 24th. I don't know.

second no 2020 they did they played the packers on oh no they didn't no that was a wasn't Thanksgiving no no I remember Chase Daniel playing my bad dog Thanksgiving or something yeah yeah yeah oh it was a Sunday night game I think oh okay okay thanks anyway

yeah I mean I sometimes he's nationally televised games but now it's going to be darn on Mooney all day long better be I have to cry David Montgomery, is he going over 77.5 yards? Yes, yes. Rushing. Yes. Yes.

Zeke Elliott, is he going over 60.5? Yes. Yes. Josh Allen, is he going over 32.5 rushing yards? Remember what the Saints gave up to Jalen Hertz last week? Yeah, he's a different. No. Totally different.

You couldn't have two guys, but they, yeah. He, he, um, man to man. They designed so much now for Hertz and he's shifting. That, that third touchdown run. Did you see that run? Wait, joke the guy, he stuck the right foot in the ground. Yeah. On purpose.

That's crazy. He's fun to watch me. That'll wrap it up here. We thank our guy, Ben Kucanus, Mr. C. Uh, you'll be working the radio show tomorrow with Paul Kelly. Yeah, I'm filling in for you, man. Yeah, you and are, you and I are back on, uh, on Friday. so look forward to that.

Oh, well, that's, I will be asleep. Start that Mooney chant. We've got to get Mooney going. Who do we need tomorrow? We want Mooney going. David Montgomery going. Oh, we want a big game. We want, put it this way.

We want to see me on Twitter tomorrow by 3.30, 4 o'clock Eastern, posting a gift of the actual roadrunner. Oh, Moon. I like that. You know what? I didn't like it when I first started about. thought about it. But I remember what a friend of mine said who is in person own said that he reminded him of when he watched tape of T.Y. Hilton. But he said, just like Hilton, because you move him all around, but he said that Mooney

has got better for quickness. And I go, yeah, he moves like this, just like you were saying. So I like it. Yeah. Yeah. So we want a lot of roadrunner. Montgomery. We want Zeke to do well, certainly. This is me selfishly. I have Waller. I want him to do well. Yeah, well, you trade it for him. It's funny. My ICI guys here tomorrow.

I try to steal Waller and then the guy that I tried to get him from in my big money league. He didn't like my offer, so he tried to embarrass me. He was like, answer for like McCaffrey and like six players. I was like, come on, man, really? These New Yorkers, can we get them out of every league? I'm in. They're so annoying.

We're kind of like against those, gosh, they're unbelievable. They don't. Because they're like, hey, this guy's, hey, this guy's from Philly over here. It's a secondary city over. You don't know anything. Yeah. The worst trade offers. Used to make fun of me with trade offers. These guys are 50 times worse.

At least I look at your roster, see what you need, you know? I got a couple ass crack orders from some people in the ACI today, actually, and they were bad. I can't remember them. We're so bad. But anyway, we digress. The trades. The trade offers, okay. The trade offers.

What did I say? Trade orders? No, I'm not a stockbroker. Ben Cucanus on the other side of class. Mr. Adam Kaplan. Oh, my battery's dying. Oh, boy. Just in time.

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