Fantasy Football Daily - 2021 Week 15 Matchup Podcast
Episode Date: December 16, 2021John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) and Greg Cosell (@gregcosell) preview Week 15 NFL action. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more ab...out your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm John Hanson. It's Wednesday, December 15th, 732 p.m. Eastern, if you must know,
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Greg, I'm sure you're well.
We'll get right into it here.
scrolling through your notes.
I guess we can start with the chargers because...
Yeah, I think Justin Herbert good.
Good, huh?
That's what I have to say.
Justin Herbert, good.
How about the offense and how that's schemed up?
And, you know, Joe Lombardi, when the season's over, I think there'll be two camps there,
some for them, some against them.
You know, I think they've been a little sketching the red zone.
I mean, when you watch the tape, you've seen it throughout the year.
What are your impressions of the offense and how it's...
run coordinated and play calling.
Yeah, I'm not one who likes to comment on play calling because I think so much goes into that
that we don't know about.
Right.
And we just see the end result.
Are they maximizing their players?
Are they using them well and all that?
Well, you know, I think that it's the first year with a new coach and a second year quarterback,
who we know is really gifted and quality receivers for the most part.
I mean, obviously Keenan Allen missed this past game, but he's a quality receiver, but he's a short to intermediate receiver.
Mike Williams is a big man that does have vertical ability, but he's not a true burner.
So, you know, I think what they've tried to build is they've tried to build in the idea that we're going to have a rhythmic timing-based pass game.
We're going to work with an offensive line that's young.
They had a left tackle who's a rookie who unfortunately will be out.
Yeah, he's a stud. Slater.
Right, but they didn't know that.
So, you know, they have a rookie.
They had some new pieces on the O line.
And my guess is they probably felt that the best way to really build the offense was to develop a timing rhythm pass game.
You know, it's easy to look at Justin Herbert and say, wow, what a special talent.
But he's not the only guy on the offense, John.
And, you know, I think they probably feel like it's a build as the season has progressed.
rest. And I think they've started to do some of that. And we may see more of that, you know,
this offseason and going into next year. But I think they viewed it as a build. Let's,
let's start somewhere. Let's become efficient. Let's become methodical. And then work off that.
And for the most part, they have done that. I've found a little cheat code in terms of finding
under the radar assets in terms of rookies, young players who, excuse me,
production may not be, wasn't all that great in college because maybe they had a bad quarterback or a bad
offense. Donovan People's Jones is a good example. How about Josh Palmer? Because I really like this guy from what I looked at and saw. I know you watched his tape and you evaluated him, but he flashed in this game. I like this guy as a prospect. In fact, I think he'll be a starter next year when they let Mike Williams go. I know he played for Ken and Allen this past week.
Well, Josh Palmer was a player whose tape I watched, as you know, coming out of Tennessee.
and I loved his tape. He played in the SEC. He had an NFL body, which obviously he still does.
He ran by Patrick Sertan twice when they played Alabama. I really liked his tape and I thought
he was a really good prospect. You know, he did not have big time production because you
mentioned the quarterback situation at Tennessee. But he's a really good player. And, you know,
they designed to play for him. It was on the first third quarter possession. It was 36-yard play to him.
The touchdown was also designed for him the way they mapped it out based on the coverage.
So, you know, I think that he's going to be a really, really good player.
I know they like him a lot.
We'll see what they do with Mike Williams.
They're certainly not going to sign him to a top wide receiver number.
I guess it would depend what Mike Williams would ask for.
Maybe Mike Williams would love to stay to play with a young quarterback.
And, you know, who knows?
You know, I don't know what people will offer him.
I think he's a quality wide out who's.
still, I don't want to say he's inconsistent per se, but he's the kind of player that he seems to have
minor injuries quite a bit. And just you would think based on his size and his overall talent that
he could be a 90-catch guy, but it doesn't appear that he's that guy. Well, he's a very physical
player, man. He takes out a lot of contact. You know, in previous years, they'd run him downfield.
He'd go up in the air and come flying down, bodies all over him. But by the way, well, we're speaking
of the Charger team here.
They are playing the Chiefs.
And, you know, the Chargers, very zone heavy, very stingy.
I don't know about this one here.
I mean, I'm worried about Mahomes putting up numbers against anyone but the Raiders.
Any thoughts on this matchup here?
It seems like the Chargers are equipped to, you know, kind of, for lack of a better term,
keep these guys in front of them.
You're talking about matching up to the Chiefs?
Yeah.
this week, the chief offense, Mahomes throwing the ball.
I think the most fascinating matchup is the other side of the ball because the chief's defense,
you know, because every week we just talk about Mahomes, you know, that's what everybody
talks about.
The chief's defense has been absolutely sensational for six games now.
I mean, almost historically sensational.
And they've just been really, really good in what they're able to do.
you know, what Spagnola has done is he's making opposing quarterbacks have to think and decipher after the snap.
It'll be interesting how that plays out with Justin Herbert because what he's doing is he's slowing down the decision process for the quarterback at the same time the speed of the play is increasing.
So it would not surprise me in this game to see a lot of timing rhythm throws by Herbert just to try to get the ball out.
So they can not be affected by the disguise and the late movement that is an absolute
staple of what the Chief's defense does.
So I think that matchup to me is actually the one I'm most fascinated to watch.
Do you think the way they play works well against this defense, as you just kind of outlined
there, you know, timing, rhythm, you said come out in that regard.
I don't know if you can play that way for four quarters, I guess, but which matchup is more
difficult for the quarterback here and challenging?
I would say the Chief's defense, the way they're playing, they're playing at a really high
level. And of course, Chris Jones is out, and that's a big deal, because one of the things
they've been doing, the Chiefs, that is, and Willie Gay is out as well. So that's,
they have two guys who are out who are really- And Sneed. And Sneed, they're,
off in their slot corner. Yeah, Sneed didn't play this week, though, and they still played
really well. Right. But, you know, one thing they've been able to do is,
is win one-on-one matchups up front. Ingram has become a really important player in their front.
He's a movable chess piece. He's a joker. He lines up both inside and outside. So, you know,
when you can do disguise late movement and then win one-on-one matchups with your D-line,
which, as I said, could change a little this week because Jones is indeed out. But when you can do that,
you're going to have a very good defense. And their defense has been really, really good the last six weeks.
By the way, I am looking for an angle for this game in terms of my Thursday night special,
my under-the-radar offensive player, I was thinking Jared Cook.
I know they throw to Parham, but Sorensen's been that tight-end matchup per your notes.
The Honey Badger as well.
I mean, any thoughts on a guy like Jared Cook up against these guys?
Yeah, the only thing I'd say there, you're not wrong, John.
You're not wrong at all is the Chiefs in their six-game winning streak.
they played the highest percentage of cover two of any team in the league.
Now, they still play cover one and play man.
So I don't want to give the wrong idea that they don't play cover one.
So we'll see who they match up.
Sorensen is normally the tight end matchup.
It could be different because of the size of both Cook and Parham.
Yeah, they could be different.
They might see Thornhill, the other safety, not Matthew because he's short as well.
They could see Thornhill as a better tight end matchup.
They've done that at times over the last couple of years.
Sometimes we have too much information, Greg.
It's, uh, we try to outcoach the damn coaches, you know, figure out the chess match.
It can be difficult.
I know.
And then when we're wrong, you know, people act like we don't know what we're talking about,
which, you know, that's fine too.
But, you know, we're, you and I, John, unfortunately, we're not in the meetings rooms
this week with the coaches and the players.
Happens to the best of them.
You know, I'll never forget watching a matchup between the Browns and the Patriots.
and it was basically, I viewed it as Norv Turner versus Bill Belichick.
North Turner beat the crap out of them.
I mean, Josh Gordon went for like a buck 75.
They could not.
It was unbelievable.
Right, right, right.
Sometimes, you know, you just guess wrong.
I remember that game.
That was, yeah, that's, yeah, Cleveland back when Josh Gordon had that unbelievable year.
Yeah.
I mean, it was impressive.
It was an impressive day by North Turner.
I remember a short pass and running away from Akieb to leave for a long touchdown.
Exactly.
He lined up on the left side and he ran across the field to the right.
That's correct.
I can see the play.
See, that's how sick we are, Greg.
That was like eight years ago.
I know.
I can see the play.
Yep.
Bill's offense against the Tampa D.
And, you know, we've talked about this every single week.
I mean, you know, I guess we should get a new cape for Josh Allen because once again,
they're asking this guy to be Superman.
Yeah, I mean, they asked him to be Superman.
and he was in the second half.
It was a warrior effort by Alan.
Their first running play, John, by a back, came on the first play of the second possession
of the third quarter.
Think about that for a minute.
You can't play like that.
You know, and now what happens, Alan gets hurt.
I mean, I haven't heard anything really negative.
He was limited today.
Apparently, he attended Hamilton Tuesday night up in Buffalo, and no crutches and had a big
smile on his face.
That's the word.
And let's hope that he didn't, you know, no one brought a sword to duel him.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
But I think he's going to, you know, my guess is he'll play.
He's that kind of guy.
And if he was out and about, you know, then he's probably okay.
But, yeah, it's, we say this every week.
I don't, you know, I don't know what to say.
Well, let me ask you this.
How much of their offense at this point is in structure?
Because it seems like more than half of it is just.
chaos, Alan, you know, running away from pressure?
No, I wouldn't say that.
Okay.
Yeah, no, I wouldn't say that.
But I think that they don't really have a true, meaningful intermediate pass game.
They hit a couple on a field goal drive in the first half.
It was, you know, actually a couple of really nice plays.
He hit Sanders, who's going to be out this week to start the third possession of the game.
It was play action.
He hit him in the intermediate void in cover two.
very next play. He digs on a
dig ball versus Dean.
But they don't really have
much of an intermediate pass game, but we say
this every week, but it's worth repeating.
Their old line is not very good in
pass protection, and the right rookie right
tackle Spencer Brown really struggled this
week, obviously playing against a very good
front and Shaq Barrett.
And they just
they don't run the ball. Now,
I don't know whether they believe, I would
assume they believe they can't run the ball
because I just, I don't know.
I don't know where to go with this, John.
I don't know that any coach truly believes that you should not hand the ball off to a running back
until the first play of the second possession of the third quarter.
Yeah, no, it's bizarre.
It feels disconnected, disjointed the offense to me this year,
and maybe part of that is the lack of the running game.
Part of that is poor protection.
So they're asking Allen to do way too much.
It's not possible to do that,
and therefore people are starting to think Josh Allen.
Alan's not really, you know, a great player, and he is a great player. And the second half of that
game said it all, and look, the reality is, I know it wasn't called, but I think we would probably
all agree that that was either holding or interference, you know, on digs. And they probably
would have won that game in overtime. And excuse me, in regulation. And if that was the case,
we'd probably be talking about Josh Allen all week as if he was Superman. Do you think this
matchup, what would you say this leans to the difficult side against Panthers? They do, as you
know, play a lot of cover one.
Panthers have a good defense, by the way.
I know, you know, we focus on their offense because it's not very good at all.
And who knows about their offense?
I can't even say that to that right now.
You're not watching that tape.
Yeah, I didn't watch it yet.
But I did watch their defense.
And, you know, I think their defense is pretty good.
You know, they give the offense a lot of looks.
They feature disguise in late movement.
they've got a lot of versatile secondary players a lot.
Yeah, it could be another challenging go here.
They can rush the quarterback off the edge with two guys that are going to pose a problem for
left tackle Dawkins and right tackle Brown, assuming he's the right tackle again.
So this is not an easy matchup for the Bill's offense.
I'm going to ask about Trevor Lawrence, believe it or not, selfishly,
because I'm actually considering starting O'Shaunacy and maybe even
Laquan, but I saw your notes, battle line, but you're almost given, it seems like you would
give Trevor Lawrence, like almost a complete pass on this year, because it's just a very poor
environment, right?
I mean, it doesn't seem to be a plan on offense at all, Greg.
What do you say?
Well, yeah, like I said, I can't speak to that because I'm not there, but I will say this,
and I put this in my notes, John, that he rarely.
gets easy throws. So I said as a question, because I don't know, is that a function of scheme?
Because it looks like everything is hard and covered and contested. And every quarterback has to get
some easy throws. You can do that. So I'm not going to sit here and rip their offensive staff.
I know people have done that. That's easy to do. And maybe they're right. But the point is,
is it's very, very hard on a weekly basis.
Now, having said that, I don't think Lawrence has been great by any means,
but that's not surprising to me.
You know, as we've spoken about,
the number one indicator of rookie quarterback success in the NFL
is the quality of the team you're on.
And he's on a bad, bad offense.
I mean, it would have helped if you had Travis E.T.N.
as a little outlet receiver and, you know,
didn't lose Dan Arnold and DJ Shark.
But, yeah, it's tough.
I will tell you this. I remember when, you know, obviously, as you well know, because you were here at times, that I worked with Ron Jaworski for years and years and years. And, you know, learned a lot of football from them. We're good friends, as you know. Dick Vermeal would come in every once in a while. And boy, did I learn from Dick Vermeal. That was like a graduate course.
Yeah. Dick Vermeel would always say, he said, when you draft a quarterback number one in the draft, the entire focus of the organization, not just the team and the coaches,
staff, but the entire organization, and he would say starting with the secretaries, starting with
the person, you know, when you walk in the building who asks, you know, who are you here to see?
Everybody in the building, the entire focus must be to make that quarterback an all pro.
And I don't know what they're doing in Jacksonville, so I can't speak to that.
But that needs to be the focus of what Jacksonville does.
Sure feels like they did that to Jaws, you know.
You know, he wasn't the number one pick, you know.
Right.
But still, I mean, to that point, you know, when Dick Vermil put it all together for Philly,
they had a good old line.
They had he had a whole car Michael, had a good back.
I mean, he had a lot.
You had a good tight end, you know.
Yeah.
They were good.
No, they were good.
I mean, Carmichael's in the Hall of Fame.
Wilbur Montgomery, who, you know, if you're younger, you might not know exactly who Wilbert is,
but Wilbert was ahead of his time.
Wilbert was a great runner before he ripped up his knee and a great receiver who you could split out.
He was in a sense, Marshall Falk,
Absolutely. One of the most underrated running backs, like ever.
It's just that he only had like three, four years because then he ripped up his knee,
and back then, you know, ACLs didn't heal the way they heal today.
Right. Then he went into media. Then he went into coaching.
Yeah. Wilbert's a great guy. I love Wilbert.
Yeah. Now, one of my first thrills in doing this way back,
I did a little TV show in Atlantic City that aired, you know, throughout the Delaware Valley, as they say.
And Comcast Sportsnet launched in Philly.
And they launched a Monday Night Football show.
And that's the show I did.
And we had a little bit of a cult following so much so that they were actually kind of threatened by us.
And I didn't hear it, but my buddy did.
It was some, Ricky Waters was doing a show.
And he said something like, oh, we're going to beat those guys down the shore, like the TV show.
our show. And apparently my buddy couldn't believe. He goes, Will Montgomery. He goes, oh, I love the
guru. I was like, oh, wow. Love me some of Montgomery. Well, he was, he was so good. Anyway,
we get off track here. Yeah, we do. Well, we got stories out. I got a Dick Vermeal story, too,
but we'll say that for another time. The point is, it was relating to your Trevor Lawrence story.
I don't know, you know, your question, I don't know what goes on in the building, but you got to
make sure that everything you do, whether Urban Meyer is the coach,
the season or not, everything you do has to be designed to make Trevor Lawrence great.
Is it fair to say that whatever negatives you're seeing, you're almost forgetting about when the
season's over? Well, I think if you get a new coaching staff, you have to start from scratch
almost as if he'd be a rookie next year. Wow. Geez. Well, speaking of non-offences, how bad is
the Titan offense right now. I mean, I hate to say with Ryan's hand to Hill, but it seems like
he's being exposed just a little bit. I know he's in a really bad spot, but this guy,
like, he can get it done if you've got weapons, but if you don't have weapons, I mean,
what do we got here? Well, they got some pretty significant issues right now, so I don't,
I mean, I look at their offense, they don't have people, clearly. They have almost no intermediate
passing game. It's very condensed schematically. They really don't,
feature much in the way of intermediate and vertical route concepts and combinations that
tactically attack zone coverage see to me i'm only telling you based on my experience i think you can
do that no matter who you receivers are but that's just my point of view okay um yeah so holio
holier i didn't really give much this week no no um jose uh it was a base personnel game for the
titans but that could well have been a function of the score they probably felt they didn't
have to score a lot of points so they played a lot of snaps with 12 points and
personnel and 13th personnel.
They don't pass protect very well.
That's become an issue, John, and that could be why they play this way.
Too many one-on-one breakdowns resulting in pressure and or sacks of Tannahill.
But when all said and done, they generate almost no explosive plays in the passing
game to wide receivers.
And that's a problem.
So, you know, again, I'm sure they're working on it.
I don't, you know, I'm not there.
I don't have the answer.
But you have to somehow figure out a way to do this.
that. You know, Josh Reynolds didn't work out. I don't know what happened, but it looks pretty good with
the Lions. I mean, he's giving them a presence on the outside. Who knows what happened there? Just
don't know the answer to that. Don't know that one. Jaguars blitzed a lot and, you know, they were
pretty effective with some of their pressure schemes versus the Titans. So they played the Steelers this
week. The Steelers defense obviously is not the Steelers defense we've come to know. Be very curious to
see how the Steelers decide to play against the Titans' offense.
Yeah, you saw that Steeler D. How bad did they look early in the game? And keep in mind that
they played a team in the Vikings that plays with a fullback just like the Titans do. So in some ways,
it's consecutive games in which they're going to get some similar personnel packages.
I would bet the Steelers will be significantly better on defense this week. I think they have a really
good coaching staff, John. I can't imagine they'll be that bad two weeks in a row.
I mean, if you get run on by Deonté Foreman, you're in trouble in the game.
Yes, you are.
Dalvin Cook is one thing.
Deante Foreman is another thing.
I saw your notes about Big Ben, about, you know, he's not really driving the ball.
And then first thought, as I'm reading it, was, well, what about that last throw, baby?
And then your last note was, that last throw was something else to Fryermouth in the end zone.
I saw that throw.
Yeah, yeah.
That was a big time throw.
I saw that throw.
I'm like, Ben, don't retire.
You still got it, buddy.
That wasn't a true drive-thru.
Yeah, I guess.
Great throw.
It was a great, though. There's some mustard on it, though. But generally speaking, we're at the end here, not really pushing that ball down the field. They haven't really made it. I mean, they do take some shots here, but.
Well, no, that's what their offense is now, John. It's a quick game to get it out, or it's vertical shots. That's what they don't really have a true intermediate pass game.
But as you said, you don't need a gun to take vertical shots.
No, you don't need a gun to throw a fade ball because they predominantly, their vertical shots are outside the numbers. So you don't need.
a gun for those throws. No. I did want to ask, I don't think you saw Houston at all, but.
I did. I saw Davis Mills. I'll tell you what. I was very impressed. He looked good early on,
Greg. What did you see? Yeah, he did actually. I mean, he needs to be protected at this point in his career.
He's one of those guys. He's very much a pocket player. He's not immobile, John, but he's a pocket
quarterback. He needs space. He needs space. That's a great way to say. You're 100% right.
I thought in the first half he showed a lot of poise. He was composed. He had good awareness of the route concepts versus the coverage. Second half, they start to get to him a little bit. Bodies around him. He became a little more unsettled. That's why he needs all the snaps and experience he can get. And they've said he'll play the rest of the year. He's a pocket passer at his core. He needs to be protected and secure. And, you know, obviously they're playing with a little bit of a makeshift, not a little bit. They're playing with a makeshift all line. So we'll see. But I mean,
I think it's the right thing to do to give them all the snaps.
Yeah, I'm asking you because I'm actually, because of injuries, I'm considering starting
Nico Collins.
And I know he looked good from what I saw with the 10 targets.
Well, they played Jacksonville this week.
And I got to tell you, Jacksonville's defense is not necessarily an easy defense to play
against them.
I mean, I think the front is scary, beat a ball on the back end.
Yeah, they did get Jack Griffin back this week.
So, you know, he's a solid NFL corner.
I would agree with you on that.
But they pressure.
They're pretty good up front.
They've got two pretty quality edge rushers in Smoot and Allen.
So, I mean, they're not easy up front.
Yeah, yeah.
That's going to be a tough call.
I mean, there's not many cake matchups out there.
You know, everyone's like, you know, some bad defensive.
But even the bad ones, like, in times, it's like they're not awful.
Like, Jacksonville is a pretty good example of that.
I mean, look at all the problems they gave the bills about them.
month ago. Greg, let's get a couple more here. Well, cowboy offense. And at this point,
I mean, it's only a matter of time until we start wondering about Dak and whether or not
he's healthy because he's been so poor. But what did you see this week? Yeah, that part I can't
answer, obviously, because he's playing. And so all I can do is watch the tape. But their offense
has not been particularly good. They can't run the ball. You know, they tried to run the ball this
week. I mean, I thought it's pretty interesting that Corey Clement had more carries. I think
Zeeke has probably heard a little bit too. Oh, he is. He's playing with the knee brace.
He said this week. He got through it okay and he feels really good, but he said that two weeks
ago that he felt good. Yeah. And I think Prescott, and I made this note in my in my notes, John.
I don't know if you saw it yet, but he's been brushing his mechanics in recent weeks.
Lower body has been a little too unsettled. At times you see him playing too fast in the pocket.
I would say that overall there have been times he's not seeing things as clearly,
and that has resulted in everything being speeded up a little.
Yeah, so you might go with, you know, it might be more mental than physical.
It could be.
Yeah, I don't know the reason.
I can just tell you what the tape shows, but with an inability to run the ball
and Dak not being at the top of his game, their offense has kind of stalled a bit in recent weeks, as you know.
So therefore receivers are not putting up numbers.
Compare and contrast it to the first six weeks.
he was pinpoint.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's where the injury
thought pops up
because, you know,
it's like a been a complete
unraveling of his game,
you know,
and suddenly the running game
has unraveled itself,
so that's a doubt.
That's definitely unraveled,
which I think is a combination
of O-Line and Elliot being hurt.
So right now their offense is,
it's a little uncertain right now.
I mean, I would not know
how you would, you know,
truly project them this week.
that, you know, I don't know how you would do that.
Well, you know, I'm not, I had to pull back from where I would normally rank that.
I can tell you that.
I mean, he doesn't, you know, I'm not giving them big numbers.
Yeah, and I don't think the Giants have a bad defense, by the way.
I know, I know that they gave up, you know, some yardage and some points to the Chargers,
but I don't think they're a Siv kind of defense.
Do they travel Bradbury, you think, this week?
Maybe not, because-
They didn't travel them last week, so I can't, you know.
Yeah.
who you're traveling them with, you know, I mean, Cooper's a threat, Lamb's a threat,
your mother's just play your sides, I guess. Well, yeah, and Lamb will probably be in the slot
in the slot anyway, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think, though, although now Aaron Robinson,
who started last week for the Giants, the rookie, he's on the COVID list, so he played outside
opposite Bradbury, so they're going to need to make a change there. You saw the Bengal offense
and- Borough was awesome. Yeah, and no sign of the injury at all, huh?
Huh? No, I thought he was really good this week.
Jeez.
Really good.
Yeah, that's great.
I don't know about this week, though, man.
That Bronco D is pretty darned.
Yeah, there's a tough matchup.
It's a really tough matchup, you know, particularly the way Vic Fangio uses his safeties.
There'll be a lot of different looks for Burrow.
Burrough's a very confident thrower.
You know, he might throw one or two this week for the Bronco is just because he might not see it exactly the way he thinks it is.
That's Vic Fangio's.
deal. You know, he shows you one thing and then all of a sudden it's different and it's different
when it's too late, you know. So we'll see. But I thought Burrow was outstanding against the
Niners. He threw the ball really well, made some really tough throws under pressure.
You know, he's, he tends to be decisive. Now, every once in a while he's wrong, but he tends to be
decisive. Yeah. Well, and he has amnesia too probably, right? That is correct. He strikes me without
knowing Joe Burrow as being very cocky and confident.
I think he's very calculated and measured, and I think he, again, I, I read Brady as a cop.
I think he kind of wants to be like Brady, not on the field per se, but just the All-American
kind of, you know, and he's calculated about it and very smart, very mature. He speaks really
well in the media and all that crap. And I think as he deans even more experience, we forget
John, he's a second year player and he missed the last part of his first year, you know, with social
media and everything and his last year at LSU seems like he's been playing for 10 years,
but he's a second year player.
And I think I would much rather, this is my personal point of view, you know, based on years
of film study, I would much rather have a quarterback who's aggressive with that mindset
and have him channel that with experience as opposed to have a quarterback that is cautious
and risk averse.
No, yeah, I've sized this guy up pretty well.
I mean, I got it right from the beginning from when I started to look at him.
I mean, this guy has got everything you want.
I mean, he wants to be great.
He's got that drive.
He's a type A.
I mean, very intense, competitive.
I mean, he's got it all here.
So they're good long term.
A couple of other here, Jimmy G on the other side, holding it down pretty well.
And doing so really without a running game the last week and a half.
F.
Yeah.
They still run it.
They don't give up on the run game.
You're talking about overall production.
Effective, yeah, yeah.
A fantasy perspective.
And you are correct about that.
But I would say that they still will run it.
They don't give up on the run.
You know, that's a big deal with Kyle Shanahan.
I thought Jimmy G. played well this week.
I mean, he did.
Obviously, the conversation might be different if Jesse Bates doesn't drop an interception
in the fourth quarter.
It seems like Jimmy G. has one or two throws every game.
game because they work the middle of the field because that's where he's most comfortable
throwing it because he doesn't have a big arm and a power arm. They don't throw a lot of balls
outside the numbers. Yeah. So it seems like he has one or two throws every week where you just
wonder, God, how did he not see that guy? And Jesse Bates this week dropped it or like I said,
we might be having a different... That's who he is at this point. That's who he is. Correct.
Yeah. But I thought he also showed some pocket movements, subtle pocket movements that
you know, we normally don't see him do, but I thought he did a nice job this week.
He got crushed a couple of times back there too, though, didn't he?
Some past pro issues there.
All right.
And then let's see if we have one more.
I mean, Seattle's offense, any improvement there?
Well, you know what?
He hit a couple of movement throws.
They did hit a lot of big plays in their offense this week.
Again, you can say what you want about who they played.
They played Houston.
But Penny looked really quick and active to me.
Rashad Penny, the best to me he's looked as a pro.
Wow.
So I don't know if he's the guy now going forward.
Yeah, he is.
You know, we'll see if he can stay on the field.
But he really looked quick and active.
And Wilson made a couple of Wilson plays, which we have been few and far between this year.
But I thought that overall, you know, if he makes some of those plays, then their offense tends to move the ball, you know,
because those are big plays.
So they had, I think I made a note in my notes,
and I'm just trying to find it now,
about how many 20 plus,
I think they had eight plays,
if I'm not mistaken, of 20 plus yards or more.
Let me see, let me get to my notes on that.
Yeah, I'm looking for it too here.
Yes, they had eight plays of 20 plus yards
with six of them coming in the passing game,
and then the two penny touchdown runs.
So that's something they've been missing, John.
They've not been a big play offense.
Lockett just seems to run more routes.
I mean, he's just all over the place.
And D.K. seems like, you know, he's running like three different routes.
But that's just me.
To show you how quickly things change, I have ranked Rasha Penny this week over Zeeke
Elliott.
I mean, you know, the guy was like a complete non-factor until like a half a, you know,
a week and a half ago.
And now I'm getting, I'm playing him over Zique at this.
point. But yeah, he will be the guy. Yeah, he'll be the guy. You know, and hopefully,
I really hope you can stay on the field, but he'll be the guy.
That'll wrap it up here for Greg CoSell. I'm John Hansen. This has been just a little preview
of Greg CoSell and the content that he brings us at FantasyPoint.com tomorrow night,
Thursday night, before week 15 kicks off. Me, Greg, and Adam Kaplan. We'll do one and a half
hour live stream covering all the matchups with all this type of convo and matchup talk and
injury updates and the good stuff there. So wrapping it here, good luck in the playoffs. We'll talk to
next week for Greg CoSell. I'm John Hanson, and this has been the Fantasy Points Matchup podcast.
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