Fantasy Football Daily - 2021 Week 3 Matchup Podcast

Episode Date: September 23, 2021

John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) and Greg Cosell (@gregcosell) go game by game previewing the Week 3 action. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time for the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Welcome everyone to the week two matchup podcast here at FantasyPoint.com. I'm John Hanson. We are recording this puppy Wednesday night, September 22nd, 729. p.m. Eastern, if you must know. Greg CoSell from NFL films. He is here. He is on the payroll here at FantasyPoints.com doing all kinds of great things

all week this week, per usual during the season. In the film room, ready to rock and roll. Looks like he went through a good amount of tape per usual, Greg. What's up? You ready for week three? How are you? John, I'm doing okay. I'm still trying to get through all of week two. So, you know, when I'll get to week three on, well, I'll watch the game on Thursday night, But I'll get to week three on Sunday morning. Got to stay ahead of the curve, right? You can't fall behind. It's like math growing up in school.

If you fall behind, like one year in math, you're done, right? You can't fall behind. That's exactly right. So I'm still working on my game three film study, my week two film study. Yeah. Okay, well, you do have plenty of stuff here. And what we do here on this particular podcast at fantasy points.com, give you a little taste of Greg Kosell's insight in the film room.

again we're recording this Wednesday night so it's still technically midweek Greg still has some film to grind through of which she supplies that you know content to us and we all use it for our greater good over at fantasy points.com we also of course do the live stream with me Greg Cosell and Adam Kaplan and that's where we go a lot more in detail cover every single game it's usually about an hour and a half on Thursday night right before the game so subscribe to the website if you're not already and you can use a promo code 21 Hanson 10, save 10% off that subscription. Greg, week three kicks off Thursday night against the Texans hosting the Panthers,

as I spit that out. Don't expect you to watch the Titans. I don't want you to, or the Texans, I don't want you to scratch your cornea, although they are hanging in there. They're hanging in there. I mean, I did watch them week one, and I just haven't seen them yet this week. But they're hanging in there. But Davis Mills will be the starter.

so, you know, we'll see. And by the way, give us a quick cliff notes on Davis Mills. I guess everyone widely believed that, you know, probably would have been better off staying in school another year. But, you know, there's some good and some bad with Davis Mills. Yeah, he only had 11 starts in college, so he probably should have stayed. But look, he ended up being, I believe, a third round pick. So, you know, Davis Mills predominantly is a pocket quarterback, looks the part. There are times he throws a beautiful ball.

my feeling was particularly watching him in college where I really studied him in great detail was that he was not quite as accurate as he needs to be for a pocket quarterback, that he still needed some work with his progression reading. And I think that's shown up a little bit. It showed up in the preseason where I watched all his preseason snaps, did not yet get to see him from this past week when he came in for Tyrod Taylor. But he's not unathletic, but if he's to make it this league, John, he'll be a pocket player. Right. And must improve that accuracy. It can be done. Oh, yeah. No, I think a lot of that would just be comfort and more experience. He wasn't inaccurate. He wasn't scattershot. Gotcha. Yeah, sure. No. Right. But Sam Darnold, I've watched him both weeks,

and I got to tell you, their offense is kind of fun to watch now. Yeah, you know, I kind of bailed on him late in the preseason. I don't even know why. I guess frustration, you know, because I kind of like Donald. But I don't know if you recall, but my initial reaction was, okay, if we can scheme it up here, I don't know how sustainable it is, but, you know, make it to fine, scheme it up, get the ball out. He is an armed talent. He has athletic. I know he doesn't handle pressure well, but what are you seeing here from Sam Donald? Just what you said. Yeah. The past game is really well scheme. It's giving Darnold the fine reads and throws within the structure and timing of the routes and the concepts. Now, even though he's got movement ability, he's really an executor and a ball distributor.

That's really what he is. Yeah. And I think he needs to get better after the snap. I think a lot of what he does is based on here's the play call. This is the coverage we anticipate. That's why we're calling this play. And here, here's where you're going to throw it. And I think he just needs to get better after the snap, but maybe within the context of this offense, he will. He can make plays on the move, but he still has some reckless, undisciplined tendencies when he gets out of the pocket. And that needs to be channeled. I don't think you want to say to him that you can't do that ever, but you have to be careful with that. Some guys just can do it. I always remember my childhood. Dan Fouts, man, he did not care. He'd stand in a phone booth. But some guys just like panic.

Is it unfair to say he's kind of a panicker when the pressure is on? I don't want to say that because that's a really negative thing. So I don't want to say he's a panicker. I'll say it, Greg. I'll say it. I'll be the guy. I'll be the bad guy. That's a bad thing to say about someone.

Right. But, you know, they're playing against a Texan's defense just to sort of set the matchup a bit. The Texans are a defense that has played through two weeks, a boatload of cover two. That's Lovie Smith. He's the coordinator. They play very few snaps of. cover one, among the fewest snaps of cover one in the NFL. That's man coverage. They don't play hardly any two man. So essentially, they're a zone-based defense. They play high percentage,

cover two, and some cover three. So they're not a difficult defense to prepare for in terms of how you want to attack them. You know what you're going to get. What do you see from DJ Moore? Because this, this to me invites DJ Moore, just find those soft spots all day long, catch eight, balls. I could see that. DJ Moore is, he's their boundary X. He's their extra receiver.

And I will say this. Houston is, and they played all nickel, if I'm not mistaken, they have not played one snap of dime. I'm going to confirm that as we're speaking, John, because I can. So I'm going to.

We do it because we can. I know it because we can. So I'm going to tell you right now because actually, They've not played any snaps of dime. So what that sets up, even in zone, keep this in mind. Even in zone, if you play cover two, you have to match up somewhere, particularly underneath. There is no better angle route runner in this league out of the backfield than Christian McCaffrey. This guy is a master of running those angle routes or Texas routes.

And even versus cover two, you could see that. You could well see that. So, you know, Moore is a factor here. McCaffrey's always a. factor. And, you know, their skill position group is pretty darn good. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We were all over that. I mean, it's all I mentioned all summer. And how about a little Dan Arnold here maybe in this matchup? Yeah. He's pretty athletic, you know. Former college wide receiver. Yeah. So he's not getting a ton of targets. I'm thinking about looking at him as a sleeper in the game,

Greg. Anything of note from the New Orleans St. D. as you watch them, I guess they were a little undermanned, obviously, last week. Yeah, there was a lot of people. So, you know, the thing that stood out to me was Adibo. He played the rookie Paulson Adibo from Stanford, played both left and right corner. And I liked him on tape quite a bit in this game against the Panthers. I thought that, oh, Trufant played a ton of snaps.

So, you know, that kind of took me by surprise. But I know they're missing people because Lattimore did not play. Right. So we'll see. I mean, I don't know who's playing this week and who's not. I haven't looked at that, you know. So, but they're a team that plays a ton of man coverage. If they're playing man coverage without their top guys,

then they're going to keep playing man coverage. Marshawn Latimore was limited in Wednesday's practice, questionable. Gardner Johnson, that's safety. Well, he's an important player too. But I got to tell you, through two games, they've played more than 75% man coverage. So without Lattimore and John's, Gardner Johnson, if they're still doing that, you know they're going to be playing man. So what do you look for in that regard, by the way, while we're talking about them this week against New England Patriots?

I'm not sure that's a great news for any of their players per se. Well, you're going to have to get man-beater concepts that define it quickly for Mack Jones. Because Mac Jones, he's another guy. He's a pure executor, and he needs to be comfortable in the pocket. you know, he's been very efficient, but they've helped him be very efficient. They don't ask him to do a lot in terms of kinds of throws, difficulty of throws. I think the limitations that he has as a passer show up a little bit. His overall traits to me, and this goes back to watching his college tape as well,

strongly suggest that the past game concepts must present the reads and the throws for him. So now he has to master the mental part of the game and all in the same. indications are that he will with experience. He's that kind of player. He has to win a high percentage of the time, John, before the ball is snap. Now, if you're playing the Saints, which they are this week, you're, you know what you're going to get. You're going to get a lot of man. So now it's up to Josh McDaniels and staff to create man-beater concepts so that the ball can come out with timing and rhythm. How about a little James White in that regard? Because he looks like a huge part of this offense.

It looks like he may catch 80 balls. He might. And he actually, they had a man-beater concept week one where he caught a wheel route. I forget. Who'd they play week one? Miami. Miami. Yeah.

And Miami played a lot of man. So it was a man-beater concept. And he caught the wheel route against a linebacker. And, you know, those are the kinds of things you've got to try to dial up to define it for Mack Jones because he's not to me. Okay. And the sample size is small in the end. NFL and obviously at Alabama, Alabama is Alabama.

So, you know, I don't think he's going to be the kind of quarterback that can sit in the pocket with bodies around him, get to later in the down, and make great throws. He may, maybe he'll surprise me. My sense is he's not going to be that guy right now. Yeah. A little bit, Daniel Jonesish there a little bit, like, you know, good, good throw with the football, but maybe it could be a little bit better in that regard. Well, Jones has a little more juice on his throws.

Yeah, yeah. And it's obviously ridiculously early on Matt Jones. Let's move on here. Greg, amazing change a narrative from week one to two with the Tennessee Titans. Let's start with Julio because, you know, again, you're just going off the tape. It didn't look good last week. I thought it looked obviously better. I don't know if we're back to even Julio from last year when he was healthy, but what did you think of Julio last week?

You know, he looked better. He made some tough catches. You know, he's such a big man that sometimes it's so hard for me to get a feel for how he's moving. And I've always, that's always been kind of a weak spot for me in evaluation, some of these bigger receivers. Because, you know, obviously, Julio, we know Julio. He's been an explosive big man. But I thought he moved pretty well. They worked him in the middle of the field effectively. He caught the deep ball, which was a great, that was actually a great Tannehill play, more than that. than a Julio play. Julio was the recipient of the throw, so therefore it helps Julio and fantasy. But it was actually a great Tanahill play. But no, he went up and got a few balls in the middle of the field. They threw those quick, a couple of quick in-breakers to him. You know, he looked good.

But this team, it's so funny, not funny, they are really a running football team. Oh, my God. They were down 24-9 at the half, and they come out and they start running the ball. Exactly. It's like, oh, we're in hurry-up mode. Feed the ball to Derek Henry. I got to say, man, Derek Henry's 60-yard run,

I don't think I've ever seen footwork on a run by Derek Henry better than that play right there. Well, you know, it's so funny because it was a zone counter kind of play. That's what I call it anyway. And Flowers was the free defender on the line of scrimmage to corner, and he missed the tackle. And then he just kind of ran by dig. And again, Henry's so big and so upright.

When you watch him run, you don't go, oh, my God, that guy's a blazer, but he just keeps gaining ground on people. He just kind of glided through the defense on that. Yeah. But you know what's interesting, he had a 60-yard run, and it counts, you know, and that gives you yards. He ended up with 35 for 182. And by the way, just as a quick aside, he's got the most first-down runs of any back in

the league. He had far and away the most first-down runs of any back in the league a year ago. So that's their profile, John. We all know that. Oh, got you. But the 60-yard run. gave him numbers, and they have injuries along their defensive line. Excuse me, their offensive line. I don't think overall their offensive line was very good in run blocking this week.

You know, other than that 60-yard run, Henry averaged less than four yards a rush. The point of attack was muddied quite a bit. It was bottled up. There was not a lot of space because he's so big and long and works through contact, he gains some yards. But their run game blocking needs to be better. Now, LeWan will be. be back this week. He missed last week. Saffold is a question mark. I don't know what his status is. The left guard. Yeah, well, he was actually like, I went on TV, said he was a sit in fantasy. Not in your season long, because you use your number one pick on him. No one's doing that. But in every other element. And for about a half or so, it looked bad, right? It looked like

Panic City for the Titans. And the key is the commitment, right? It's the commitment. That's it. Oh, they're committed to running the football. That's no question. And then everything else works off that. How about this stat? You're not a fantasy guy, but you know numbers here. Derek Henry in the Titans' last six wins, 34 fantasy points.

I mean, it's basically the equivalent of like, you know, 170 yards and two touchdowns. And then his last six loss is 11. So the man is completely dependent. upon the win or the loss. Right. It's crazy. It's just fascinating to me, and then we'll move on that.

In a game that they were behind, pretty much all game, okay? Yeah. He had 35 carries. Yep. That's crazy. He's their best hurry up option, and how about to work in the passing game? Well, you know, they threw him two design screens, and I made a note because when I saw those saying, I think you're going to see more of that as the season progresses.

That's Todd Davidson, you know, that's he's a past game guy. Todd Downing. you mean. Todd Downey, yeah. I think you're going to see more of that as the season progresses. I think you'll see them misdirection screen. You'll see them trying to get Henry on a screen where he has room in front of him. So you'll see concepts to do that. How about the while we're talking Seattle? How about the run D? I mean, do you blame them? I mean, how bad did they look on tape? Because they do have Dalvin Cook of the Vikings this week? No, like I said, I don't think their run D was bad at all. I think they won more often than not at the point of attack. I thought their run D was actually. good. Okay, yeah, that's true. Yeah, no, I mean, the numbers say otherwise because Henry had 35 rushes and a 60-yard touchdown, but I thought overall their run-D was good. And now they're

going to get, you know, a different kind of back, but a lot of zone-run principles from Minnesota, just like they saw from Tennessee. Bouncing around just a little bit, we're going to leave a lot of meat on the bone here. But Dallas Cowboy offense, we've been wondering, okay, what's the identity, stark contrast from week one, but maybe they're just a balanced team. Well, that had to do with the opponent, John, and the opponent this week is likely to keep them balanced because week one, my guess is week one they went into the game. I don't think this is a guess, by the way. Yeah, sure.

Week one, they went into the game. Knowing that, you know what, we're going to have to score 30 to compete. I mean, we're not going to keep Tom Brady off the field and win 17. 13. That's not going to happen. We're going to have to score 30 and we're going to have to match them touchdown for touchdown. Last week, they played a Chargers defense that plays a lot of split safety. Okay, that's Brandon Staley. There's a lot of split safety. So what do you do against split safety? You run the football. And the way the game started with them getting a 14-0 lead, it made perfect sense to play balanced. And I think when they play the Eagles, the Eagles are a

Big split safety team. They play hardly any man-to-man coverage. They just lost Brandon Graham. I think you're going to see a similar approach. So the Eagles come out and run the ball with Miles Sanders and friends? No, the Cowboys come out. And I'm talking about the Cowboys. Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right.

Well, actually, you know, I'm throwing off because I wanted to ask you about... Yeah, but I mean, I think the Cowboys are going to tactically play very similarly against the Eagles as they did against the Chargers. because the Eagles are a split safety defense. They lost Brandon Graham. You know, I think the Cowboys are going to do that. I mean, you know this from fantasy because this is what you do. How amazing is it that Pollard had 21 snaps and 16 touches? I mean, you know, exactly.

So every time he's on the field, it's like it's a Pollard player. It's almost like he's getting the ball, yeah. Yeah, I don't know how sustainable that is, but he seems pretty entrenched here. If he, if on average he gets 20 touches a game, John, he's not going to. to gain a hundred and whatever number of yards every week on, you know, that's not going to happen. Yeah, I was thinking ahead because I did want to ask you about Miles Sanders. He does look good.

What do you think about him in this? I feel like last week the Eagles, maybe they should have stuck with what worked in week one. I know they tried to change it for the opponent, but it was kind of the opposite. Of the tape I've watched so far this week, one of the revelations has been the Cowboys defense and the speed with which they play. This is a really fast defense. They were fun to watch.

I'm very anxious to see them as the season progresses. Because everybody thinks about the Cowboys defense last year and how bad it was. But this is not your grandfather's Dan Quinn now. I mean, this is not a cover three defense. They play man. They pressure. They play cover four as well, split safety zone. But they play man.

They pressure. They're fast. Micah Parsons is essentially now going to be a D-N. he did not play one snap off the ball. He was on the ball at the end. I thought they looked really good. Trayvon Diggs is really improving and emerging as a man corner, which I thought he was coming out of Alabama.

He's like a matchup guy. Yeah. So for people who just think, oh, Cowboys defense stinks. Now I'm not sitting here telling you they're going to be the 85 bears or the Legion of Boom, John. I don't want people to think that. but this defense is fast and they're fun to watch and they've got some emerging players and they're young well yeah they do they do have a lot of you know high high draft picks a lot of young guys um is um

actually you know what we can move on because we have way too much to get to i got to ask you about um stafford and the rams this past week man dahl anderson look great but am i crazy or does son and michel look awesome did you see son of michel's carries yeah i saw some of it i mean yeah i i would say this week, he's not the guy to go with, though. No, no. They're playing the bucks. You know, and it's the same deal. They're going to feel like they're going to have to score 30 to match up and win. So will they try to run? Yes, because McFey's not going to

by choice, throw it 65 times. But I don't believe this will be a run game week in terms of production. Man, can this Cooper Cup production, by the way, continue? I mean, clearly he's Stafford's favorite target. But I'm wondering if we see a little bit of a correction here with Robert Woods going forward and then Tyler Higby, you know, didn't do it on the stat sheet, but you see Tyler Higby in your film study still looks like a major part of this office.

Well, it's funny you say that. And I know Cups had big numbers through two games, but some of that's been schemed. Some has been where he's been the secondary receiver and Stafford went to him after he came off the primary. One was a bust. So, you know, the numbers are there. And I think Cups are really, really good receiver. so I'm not saying all of a sudden he's going to have two targets and one catch.

But I'd be a little leery just from the tape part of it, not from the fantasy part, from the tape part of saying he's his guy, because there had been a lot where he was not the primary and he ended up catching the ball. Yeah, okay. Okay. And again, he may end up, you know, this week getting seven. First of all, I think Stafford is going to throw 45 times this week because I think they're going to have to. So there's going to be a lot of target share for a number of those.

receivers. Yeah, it seems like Tom is going for like lights out. Like he wants to throw like 50, 57 touchdowns this year. Yeah, in the first month. Yeah. I mean, they're going for it. So, okay. How about bouncing around again? You mentioned that Cowboy D. How did Justin Herbert look? Any observations on the offense through the first two weeks? Everything was great, except they just do seem to kind of melt down in the red zone. Yeah, I mean, well, they had some, there were some weird, was that the game in which they were the weird penalties, you know, which I'm sure were penalties. I'm not saying they weren't penalties, but they had some plays called, I think that was the game.

But I thought that, you know, I wasn't, I didn't think Herbert played a bad game by any means. They didn't really have any big plays, which was, you know, something they pretty much rely on. So, yeah, I don't think their run game is, I think that's going to be a little. little bit of an issue. Herbert's throwing a lot of balls. And while he's really good and he's efficient, I mean, I know he threw, I think he threw two picks. One in the end zone wouldn't have been a pick if Allen didn't fall down. It was actually, it's funny. As soon as I saw that play, and this is just from, you know, being a lunatic like I am with film study, Joe Lombardi is their offensive coordinator who came from the Saints. The interception he threw in the end zone was an

exact Saints play that I've broken down a number of times on the NFL matchup show through the years. It was the exact same concept, the same play, basically. It's just that Allen fell down. He did have success against the KCD last year. I'm not sure that's because they play a lot of man to man or what. KC is, yeah, is very aggressive on D. They play a lot of cover one. They play a lot of cover two. And they get to it with disguise. They will also go zero blitz. That's what the chiefs are. So he did have success. We'll see. I mean, this is this is a different, a little bit different defense than the one he just played against. Speaking of KC, Mahomes has been pretty damn brilliant this year, right?

You know, I didn't think he had his best game on Monday night. I mean, he's always going to put up numbers. I actually did not see that game. I often missed the Monday night game. I mean, I didn't see a ton of it on TV. Although I did watch the Mannings. And you know what? Obviously, you can't talk hardcore X&O for three straight hours.

Yeah. And I wasn't awake for the whole game. But when it's required, you know, when plays develop, they are so good talking about the plays. So good. That's great. I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean, what you would expect. But, you know, for someone like me, I love that stuff.

But anyway, you know, Mahomes, he's never bad. But I didn't think he was at his sharpest. And, you know, he's so good making plays off schedule that there are plays he misses when he leaves that when he doesn't need to. You know, sometimes then he makes the great play. But I'm not sure. Maybe it's the purest in me. Maybe I'm too old. I don't know.

But when I watch him leave the pocket when there's no pressure and he doesn't allow the route combination to develop. And then when it develops, you know, a half a second later, it's there and the receiver's open. And he's already left the pocket. What fascinates me the most about that is how that's coached. I don't even know if it is. Really? No, I mean, when they go through film, do they say to him, you know, hey, just stay in that pocket a half beat longer and you had it?

Or do they not say anything at all because he's Patrick Mahomes and he makes great plays? Or do they practice a scramble drill? Do they practice a scramble drill? Of course, every team does. Yeah, maybe more so, though. Yeah, I mean, they're really good at it because he scrambles a lot. But I'm just fascinated by how you coach a quarterback that leaves the pocket premature. surely well on that note kailer murray is doing a better job from what i can tell of not doing that i would

agree with you i think murray this week i thought murray played really really well you know what he's making some pocket throws that are big time i mean there's no question man yeah big time there's no question about that i you know that can't be argued whatsoever i think he's you know again another guy that's always going to make those special plays outside the pocket that's Gee, he's just capable of all that. But he's a little different because he's under, you know, he's 510. So there are certain times I guarantee he just doesn't see something. You know, only he could tell you that, but that would be my guess.

It was good to see because I was very high on him and I was underwhelmed, you know, based on a lot of things of what you said. I'm like, man, this is a big year. And man, he has turned a corner. Yeah, he's made some really good throws from the pie. I mean, that fourth and five in the fourth quarter this week where they came with a zero blitz. and he fell away from the throw because he had to, and he just laid it right out to Christian Kirk,

was beautiful because Alexander did not, until he was playing in the slot corner, McKenzie Alexander, he did not anticipate Kirk running vertically because there was pressure. You know, so he figures, hey, if he's going to run vertically, that takes longer, my pressure is going to get there. I don't have to play the vertical route,

but unfortunately it didn't work out that way. How does he compare to like Russell Wilson, if he continues this trajectory? He might be better. Much better. Yeah, that's... You know, Wilson certainly had way more team earlier in his career. So that's a tough deal.

You know, I mean, Wilson had the best defense in the league and a badass run game with Marshall Lynch. And they're not going a lot of 10 personnel with like four receivers on the time. No, no, no. But you know what's fascinating? You know what Kyle, Kyle Limerty is out of empty sets through two games? empty sets, you know, where he's the only one in the backfield. He's 13 for 13 for 173 and two touchdowns.

Well, spread him and shred him, I guess, right? Keep doing it. Yep. I was absolutely stunned doing live commentary on television for that Viking offense that it seemed to me like Rashad Hill, the left tackle, like neutralized Chandler Jones. I know you didn't see that side of the ball yet. I was like, what? but anyway, you'll probably get to that.

I mean, we know what the Vikings offense is, John. I mean, they're playing Seattle this week. You know, we know what they're going to do. They're going to give it to Delvin Cook, who, by the way, last year had the second most first down rushes in the league, and I believe this year he's also got the second most. So we know what they're going to do. How did the offense acquit itself in your, in week, well, two.

Last week you were like, hey, maybe a little bit more stability, a little more consistency. talking about the Vikings. I didn't see their... No, no, Seattle's offense. Oh, oh, Russell. You know, Seattle's offense has been a little weird because they've run so few plays relative to other teams. They've only run like 105 plays in two games, which is really a low number. Carson doesn't have a lot of carries for sure.

Yeah, I know. I thought they were much better week one. I know they put up 30 this week, but the touchdown to Swain was a total bust, and they had the long touchdown to Lockett, which was against man coverage, great throw. But... this week was, I don't know, it was hard. Watching the tape, I didn't come away going, oh, my God, they're terrible, but there just was no rhythm to it. And their old line did not hold up very well against what we normally don't associate as a good Titans pass rush, but the Titans front group that are really good job this week.

A lot of stunt concepts that cause problems. They just, yeah, they just didn't, they're all line did not hold up well this week. Last but not least, Derek Carr and the Raiders. Got like seven tight ends on the field, Greg. What are you seeing out of the Raider offense and Derek Carr thus far? It's funny you say that because their tight end usage is crazy. They play out of 13 personnel, three tight ends. Like they've had like 21, 22 snaps this year with three tight ends on the field.

Think about that. That's crazy. But Car. Carr had a stretch in this game where he clearly felt it. It was like the light switch went on in the third quarter. And man, he was just making throws. I mean, he snaps it off pretty good. You know, Hunter Renfro is a nice little security blanket there.

He sure is. He sure is. And they run specific concepts with him that are really good. That kid is great. He is so awesome. Yeah, you know, he's one of those guys. I mean, he's, you know, he just, and there's definitely a sense of confidence there when Carr throws to him. Yeah, yeah.

But that touchdown drive in the third quarter where he had REM throw for 23, then Ruggs for 30, then Morrow, the nine-yard touchdown, which was a beautiful throw. You know, Carr was feeling it then. And then, of course, the long touchdown to Ruggs was a great throw. You feel, and you're seeing anything out of rugs? I mean, is it just like steady progress here? And Brian Edwards, too. I mean, obviously, he can always.

run by people, so that was a touchdown. But I actually liked the 30-yarder on the touchdown drive I just mentioned because that was, that was designed for that side of the field. It was to the boundary side, the twin side, and it was a high, low concept. And so ultimately what you're hoping is that the underneath defender hugs up to Renfro, which he did. I think it was, no, it was Waller. You're hoping the underneath defender hugs up to Waller, which he did, and you get

rugs behind him on the Inbreaker. and so it's really in an ideal world it's designed for rugs. So I'm hoping as we go forward we see more concepts where Ruggs and Edwards are the primaries. Well, it looks like right now we may have a chance to be very respectable with what we've done in the draft. It's kind of like an old school approach. Let's get a big X receiver. Let's get a burner at Z and Henry Ruggs. Yeah.

And a big tight end who can line up anywhere. And a pretty good O line too. and a quarterback who can, you know, make all the throws pretty much. So, yeah, okay. No, no, I mean, they're going to be a fascinating offense to watch in terms of development because they do have all the pieces. It's, you know, can the young receivers, we know what Waller is, can Ruggs and Edwards kind of become, you know, what they were drafted to become?

Yeah, you know, to me, Rugs, and I loved his tape coming out, I never quite saw him as a true volume guy in the sense that he was going to catch 120 balls. but I also didn't see him as a guy that was going to catch 40 balls. You know, to me, Ruggs is, in an ideal world, is like a 70 catch, 16, 17 yards per reception, 9 touchdown kind of guy. Oh, 70 catches, we'd take that all day long. No, I mean, if he were to develop and become what I think, what I think he could be. Yeah, I mean, he's never going to be Tyree Kill.

I think that's pretty clear. You know, and again, I don't want to say yes or no to that, because Tyree Kill wasn't Tyree Kill his first year either. He wasn't. I don't know if it would be Brandon Cooks, Greg. We'll see. You know, don't forget, the one thing I heard about Rugs, and this is just from people in

the know, is that he's super competitive, super hard worker. I mean, all that is a good thing, so who knows what he can become. Oh, yeah, I was around him and Judy at the Combine. They're serious. They're all business, those kids. Yeah, I know. I know. I spoke to Jerry Judy. I actually at a

Super Bowl when he was walking through Radio Row. And he was a very, he was a very good conversation. He was all business. All business. You're always all business, Greg. And that's a 33 minutes of quality programming right there. The week three matchup podcast here at fantasy points.com. Once again, this is just a taste.

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