Fantasy Football Daily - 2021 Week 6 Matchup Podcast

Episode Date: October 14, 2021

John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) and Greg Cosell (@gregcosell) discuss Week 6 NFL action. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more abo...ut your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. There you go. Welcome to the week six matchup podcast here at FantasyPoint.com. I'm John Hanson. We are recording this Wednesday evening, October 13th. Greg CoSell has been locked in that film room for, well, going on three days here leading up to week six.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And he's here with us now. This podcast, if you're just tuning in for the first time, is a little bit of a teaser in terms of the content that we get from our guy, Greg CoSell from NFL films. Greg joins me, Adam, me and Adam Kaplan, on the live stream every Thursday night. We go over all the matchups, a lot more detail, obviously a little closer to game. time. If you're not a subscriber to Fantasy Points and you want to check it out, we did just lower the price on subscription. You could also save an additional 10% using 21 Hanson 10 as your promo code. Greg, how are you? I'm sure you're ready to rock and roll. So are you ready for week six? I guess so. It's going to happen whether I'm ready or not, John, I believe.
Starting point is 00:01:29 It's a great point. It really is. Let's get into it. You checked out the RAM offense, obviously against Seattle. And looking at the notes, Seattle defense still struggling a little bit. But I want to talk about what you saw out of Matt Stafford. Not a ton here in your notes, but how do you think he's playing right now? Do you see any, it seems to be a little off lately. I'm not exactly sure what it is. I know he jammed.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I missed a few in that game. And then he made some really good throws. You know, it's funny how statistics are. Because if you just look at his numbers at the end of the game, you'd say, wow, he had just a great game. I think the last couple of weeks he's missed some that we're used to seeing him make, but he also makes some really good throws. You know, I don't think their offense changes dramatically on a week-to-week basis, John, from a fantasy perspective. You know, the only thing that potentially changes from a fantasy perspective is whether Deshaun Jackson, you know, gets a few home runs.
Starting point is 00:02:31 But, you know, you know, Cups going to be targeted. you know, Woods is going to be targeted. You know, I think they're the two main guys. So, you know, from a fantasy perspective, they're pretty much, you know, the same. And I think McVeigh's always been like that. I don't think there's a lot of variance in what they do. It's easy for me where I'm sitting to talk about Robert Woods last week and say, oh, that's an overcorrection, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I mean, we're all making a big deal about it in the fantasy business because he's not getting as much targets. Obviously, Cups have been great. Well, 14 targets and 12 catches later. I assume you didn't get a sense that they were like force feeding the ball. No, they don't do that. They don't really do that. So, you know, it's funny. I'm almost kicking myself because I kind of knew that and I didn't say anything last week. And it didn't hit me until I was watching the game. And I was like, well, of course, Woods is going to have a big game because they're playing against a team that plays a lot of zone and doesn't play it well. So of course Woods is going to have a big game. You know, that's the way I felt as soon as as soon as the game started to play out last Thursday night when I was home watching
Starting point is 00:03:40 it. So that was not a surprise to me. And no, they were not force feeding him to say, hey, it's time to throw it to Robert Woods. It was the nature of the opponent. Well, yeah. And we were on that. I did use the overcorrection word. Hey, it sure as hell seemed like one. The man got 14 targets. but bottom line was we knew they were weak in the slot. Woods is in the slot at times, and their zone coverage has been bad. It's been bad. Yeah. Henderson looks good, right?
Starting point is 00:04:12 I mean, this guy is absolutely bringing it. I like the backfield split last week. I think that's where they want to be. You want to make Henderson? I would agree. I would agree. I mean, I think that they complimented each other pretty well, I think. Yeah, and the run game's important to them.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But I think the run game is important to them as a schematic, not as a player. You know what I mean. Yeah, it sets up everything else, right? Yes, they don't need, obviously they had Gurley a few years ago, and he was a really good back, but they don't need, you know, a Derek Henry. They don't need that one dominant back. The run game for them is a schematic that is part of a complete multidimensional offense. And the back catching the ball is a big part of that.
Starting point is 00:04:58 sure. It can be. I don't think it's essential, but it can be. All right. I mean, Gawley did because he was a very good receiver. But I think, I don't think that it has to be a case where the back gets, you know, 60 catches. I don't think they have to have that. So the big difference with Stafford is the vertical element, I would imagine, right? Because they're chucking it down, fit a lot. Certain throws, I mean, two weeks ago, I believe it was two weeks ago. It might have been, who did they play two weeks ago? That would have been. Las Vegas?
Starting point is 00:05:34 No, they played Arizona. Arizona, yeah, yeah. And they lost that game, yes. But he made a seam throw to Cooper Cup, you know, those kinds of throws that, like Jared Goff wouldn't make that throw. You know, so Stafford can make throws that others not only won't make, but might not even attempt. And he'll still make those throws.
Starting point is 00:05:55 He's a confident thrower. You know, him missing a few doesn't mean he's going to stop throwing it. Seattle's D, no real changes there in terms of what you're seeing. They're still not ready. I'm curious to see if we see some changes given the fact that they have extra time. Because I can't believe that the coaches, their veteran coaches, Pete Carroll's a smart guy, been around a long time. I can't believe that with the extra time since they played last Thursday night,
Starting point is 00:06:23 that they're not sitting around discussing, hey, we need. to do some things here. We're not very good. So I don't know what that means for their next game, but I have to believe that there's going to be some structural changes. In other words, maybe go more man to man, simple things. I don't know if they feel, you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't know if they can match up, man. Obviously, they released Trey Flowers. He wasn't playing anyway. I don't know if they can truly match up, man. but something has to change because they're playing a ton of zone and they're not playing it very well. Now, you saw the Steeler offense.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah, it did. And that was actually for the first time in a while kind of a fun watch. Yeah, it felt healthy, right? Well, to me, again, different ways to do things. So I'm just telling you, you know, giving you my opinion, obviously. I think that's the way they need to play. I mean, it was, it was the approach was far more balanced. as far as run pass. Harris had 23 carries. Rathesberger only had 26 dropbacks. When everybody's
Starting point is 00:07:30 healthy on defense, I think their defense can keep them in games. Rathesberger, you know, I said this in my notes, which you probably saw, given where Rathlisberger is in his career and the quality of the Steelers defense, I think this is the best game plan approach for them. I don't think Big Ben should be dropping back 45 times a game. Yeah, well, that's what we thought when they drafted Najee Harris instead of an offensive lineman, you know? So maybe the old guys... Obviously, what really helped them not only was the approach, but third down conversions become critical in that approach.
Starting point is 00:08:03 See, if you're going to run the ball like they did, a couple of things have to happen. You've got to convert on third down, and you've got to score touchdowns in the red zone, and they did that because Rothfusberger was 8 for 11 for 11, for 118 yards and two touchdowns on third down. So if you can run the ball and convert on third down, you'll have a sustaining offense that can,
Starting point is 00:08:21 rolls tempo and scores points. It feels like now through five weeks, maybe the offensive line is jelling a little bit and improving. How did the line look? It hasn't seemingly been a sieve. No, no. I mean, and I think that Najee Harris is the kind of back, John, that makes an offensive line look better because he's a grinder, he's physical, he's a finisher, he gets hard yards.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You know, he's that kind of back. He can turn a three-yard run into a six-yard run with no point. problem. So, you know, I'd like to believe that this is the way they're going to play. I mean, they play Seattle this week. And that's at Pittsburgh. I don't, again, every game is different, and maybe I'll be dead wrong. But I can't believe that they can't play this style of offense against the Seahawks. It's a 29-carry game for Najee Harris, probably. It could well be. I mean, you know, I know you make your projections, but I believe he'll over 20 carries in this game. Well, I have Najee at RB2 for the week, well ahead of Derek Henry, by the way, who's got a really interesting and
Starting point is 00:09:26 tough matchup, but yeah. But, you know, Henry's only on pace for 482 carries this year, so. I mean, and that, by the way, that number is correct. I didn't just throw that number out. I mean, this will be the most remarkable thing like ever, but wrapping up the Steelers. And Najee, look, he's been, I said that all summer, like, at the very least with this old line, in addition to everything you said, you know, he's. He's a grinder, he's a finisher, but he also can create a little bit on his own, right?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, he's gotten better and better, by the way. I remember watching him last summer, two summers ago maybe, when he was coming off his next to last year in college and thinking, God, this guy is not really shifting. He's kind of stiff. Yeah, he's big and he has some power, but I just wasn't sure. And then I watched him his last year at Alabama and thought, wow, this guy's improved dramatically. looks quicker. He looks much better and can find space. And that's kind of continued in the league. He's not just a grinder now. He's more than that. Yeah. And a good receiver too, real good. Very good receive.
Starting point is 00:10:31 He's played over 90% of their offensive snaps, John, as you probably know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we were in on him. He was, hey, it's a projecting guy. I mean, he had a 14-catch game earlier in the season. Oh, I know. Yeah, I mean, you want to talk about a projection. Dude's never taken a snap. We ranked him as like the 13th best skill player in the league, you know, and that's going pretty well. No Juju Smith-Schuster, and it was nice to see Claypool get going here, some of those in breaking routes, high percentage stuff, right? Do you think maybe they can, you know, get him going more in the short passing game, maybe even put him in the slot a little bit? Yeah, I mean, again, now it comes down to how much they throw it, because if they throw it less,
Starting point is 00:11:13 the fantasy numbers might go down, but their offense might be better. Yeah, yeah. True. That's true. Yeah, because, you know, Deonte has been really a... Yeah, James Washington will be the receiver that takes the place of Smith Schuster. But if they're able to continue to play this way, the way they did this past week against Denver, not a bad defense, by the way, then the numbers will go down from a fantasy perspective. Yeah. Let's move on. You watch the Panthers. Panther offense against Philly. That was a tough watch.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. You know, we were worried about the O-line for the Panthers. That seemingly came to the forefront this week. You know, DJ Moore, I thought he was going to eat all day. Did DJ Moore get contained by the Eagles or and Darry Slayer? Or was it more Sam Darnold? Obviously, it was probably a little bit of both. But which way would you lean there?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Was it more Sam or was it more the Eagle defense? I would probably say it was more of the Panthers offense. and Darnold. I mean, the Eagles did travel sleigh, but they didn't play man. So, I mean, he did line up over him, but it wasn't like they had a, you know, a head-to-head man-to-man matchup, you know, that you really love seeing. You know, the Eagles made some adjustments defensively in this given game. They played a lot more single high. They'd been high percentage split safety. The Eagles played a lot more single high. And what happened in this game is their D-line just dominated, control the game. The, the Panthers, oh,
Starting point is 00:12:45 line, I knew was going to be a problem anyway, and this game, it really came out. Yeah. And that was a big concern in the preseason because then we're back to where we started from with Sam Donald if he's got a bad old line. But obviously, he was not comfortable in this game. He played fast. He hurried himself. His feet were not calm.
Starting point is 00:13:06 You know, for the people who don't like Donald, they'll say, oh, that's the real Sam Darnel. Whether it is or not, time will tell. But this was a game that he clearly did not look. comfortable. Do you have any feel at all whether or not, you know, you'd rather see him against a zone heavy team or a man heavy team? I guess man, right? More defined? I mean, theoretically, man is always more defined because it's you pick out who you want to throw it to and you can do that before the snap of the ball. So that doesn't mean you're better against man. It just means that
Starting point is 00:13:39 you can you can pick out who you want to throw it to. So I don't have a feel for, you know, what he's better against. Yeah. Well, I mean, this was clearly as well. You know, there were three interceptions in this game, okay? They all came against zone. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Well, you saw on the other side of things, you know, I'd be curious if you have asked you the same damn question about Jayland Hertz, honestly. I mean, are we still learning about the Eagle offense every week here? I mean, we don't know what the Eagles offense is right now. Yeah. I mean, I guess we could say we do know what it is because we know they're not going to run the ball. So I guess that's what we know. what we know. Yeah, I guess not, especially not this week against Tampa. Yeah, I mean, so,
Starting point is 00:14:18 so it's, it's an offense that relies on Jalen Hurts. And you know what? He'll make some plays and he'll miss some. I mean, you know, I made the point of my notes, and again, this is a debate. Reasonable people can disagree. There's no physicality to the Eagles offense. There's no meaningful run game. Hertz is in the shotgun on almost every snap. That's their offense. Well, how is he done under center when you've seen him under center? He's hardly been under center. The Eagles have been in the shotgun on 280 out of 306 offensive snaps, John. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 What about last year? I can't remember. My guess is it was probably somewhat similar. Yeah. Although I do remember a couple of big plays where he was under center and they went with conventional play action. Yeah. 92% of the offensive snaps he's been in the gun. overall I mean playing pretty well right overall
Starting point is 00:15:16 Burtz yeah um I think he's been up and down there are times I think he's trending up and there are other times I think he's leveling off so I think he's still a work in progress and in many ways I wouldn't be surprised by that he started nine NFL games yeah hopefully it's just we're not saying the exact same thing like three years you know yeah well we don't know the answer to that but that would be my fear This matchup here against Tampa, Thursday night, of course, no Dallas Goddard. I do believe that Zach Ertz would be a good play. And also, Devante Smith.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I mean, teams increase their past percentage, like 18% against Tampa. So they're going to have to throw it all over the field here, Greg. Yeah. So the big question will be, can they're all in protect? And Hertz could have nice numbers running the ball. I mean, that's, again, you're talking fantasy, John. He could run the ball. You're talking about Hertz?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, he's probably going to drop back 40 plus times. Yeah, and he'll scramble and, you know, there'll be some design runs. I mean, he could have some meaningful running yardage. How has Ertz looked on tape? Because I'm thinking about, well, we already have him rank really high, no Goddert. And I'm being honest, I haven't noticed Ertz a whole lot, so I can't really answer that.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Right. But would you say, to be fair, it's a, it's a, it's a. very tight end friendly offense? Tight end friendly? I mean, the way they're playing now, you know, I don't think they're... Tight end orient and tight end heavy. I don't think they're featuring the tie.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I mean, Goddard has not been featured. I know, but with the two together, it seems like they do throw a lot to the tight ends. Yeah, although they've been in 11 personnel on 70% of their offensive snaps, John. I know, I know. I saw that. I'm like, it is a little weird.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm looking for the stat that I'm looking for the stat that I have on this. Yeah, so I mean, it's not a tight end offense. You know, they're not in 12, they're not in 12 personnel all that much. Yeah. And they won't be this week because Goddard's out. Yeah. Any thoughts on what you're seeing with the whiteouts here? Because it felt like, well, it definitely was a walk and seemed to play over Rager last week. I don't if you know if you knows that. Yeah, I think Smith is the guy. You know, I think he's the guy they want to get the ball to the most. So that seems to be, to me, the way it's kind of shaking out right now.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Sure, sure. Let me see if I can find this damn stat. I had a stat here that it was like 30, you know, 6% of their targets were tight ends, which seemed a little heavy. Anyway, we can move on. I mean, their past game is very erratic. You know, a couple weeks ago against the Chiefs, they threw it a ton, and the numbers were pretty good. You know, but it's been, and this week, this week hurts until a couple of plays, there was a stretch where he had like 17 completions for like 100 yards.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah. You know, so it's a very erratic past game. It is erratic, yeah. Eagles have devoted at least 24% target share of the tight ends in three of five, 31% in another. they did lose Richard Rogers from the practice squad, which again probably won't be a problem. There'll be three receivers and Zach Hertz out there, slinging it all over the place. Moving on here,
Starting point is 00:18:48 listening to the week six matchup podcast here at FantasyPoint.com, just a little sample. And Tom Brady, believe he's good. I did like him this week. We liked them quite a bit. Miami is, you know, man-to-man-based. You know, I'm sure Brady knew what to expect and all that. I was surprised that they apparently, per your notes,
Starting point is 00:19:13 they went with Xavier Howard on AB. I thought maybe they would travel him against Mike Evans. They did not. I was actually kind of surprised. Yeah. It didn't go well for Howard, I see. That's what they did all game. Jones was on Evans.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Howard was on Brown and Needham was versus God and Godwin in the slot. So that's what they pretty much did when they played man. Yeah, but these, man, this Dolphin D is just so less effective this year. I know, and I can't, I don't know why, because they're doing a lot of the same thing. It's like the Chiefs, you know, they're doing a lot of the same things. They're not as good. It seemed like, per your notes, they went a little more zone, which is probably a, I guess, never a great idea. Then they didn't blitz them.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah, they did. Yeah, they played more zone, more split safety. That's a function of who they played, Brady. By the way, talking about, boy, AB looks damn good, doesn't he? Yeah, he looks good. You know, the player, and again, because they got basically, I think Tyler Johnson looks really good, but he's obviously not going to get a big target share. Oh, he's a great, great, very good hands, man.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah. Yeah. But A.B. has just got that spring, right? That pep and the step, and he looks like his 28-year-old dude out there. Yeah, no, he looks, he looks good. And Evans is good. You know, Evans is just really a tough. He's a tough cover.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah. Got to think, speaking of Evans, to Slay this week for Evans? Well, he might line up over him, but they're not going to play man because they can't match up John. Right, right. So, I mean, could he line up over him like he lined up last week over more? Yes. But it's not the match up the way you're talking about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah. It's just more often than not, you know, like, or more. See more Evans than anyone else. Yeah. It's their goal. But they can't match up man to man because they can't match up to the other receivers. Even if you think Slay can do a nice job on Evans, they can't match up to the other receivers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:17 So they could move Evans away from Slay if need be. I would think that Godwin this week in the slot is probably maybe the best matchup here. It could well be the, and I doubt Grancos again this week. No, he's already out. Yeah. They'll give him till next week. So that'd be a good matchup to exploit Godwin with his size against Maddox? Well, again, it's not, you know, again, you know, not that I want to tell you you're wrong, but yes,
Starting point is 00:21:45 will Maddox initially line up over him because he's the slot corner? But depending on their rounds, Godwin runs, Maddox is not going to run with him all over the field. They're not going to be in man coverage. Right. We're just looking for a little over the, you know, tipping the scales a little bit. No, I understand, but I don't want to give people the wrong impression either because it's not a matchup per se. You know, like sometimes, and I know it works both ways. Like sometimes you'll have stats where you say, oh, they've struggled with a particular team, not the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:22:18 They've struggled with slot receivers. And then I'd say, yeah, but they play a lot of zone. So the struggles are not a function necessarily of the slot corner. Right. Could be linebackers. The defense as a whole. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Like the football team right now, they're giving up the most fantasy points out of the slot. That might be a quarter issue, but who knows? Well, by the way, that is because they play a ton of cover one. See, there's a difference. They play a high percentage of man coverage. Right, right. So then it becomes different. But if a team plays heavy, heavy zone, it's not a pure matchup in a strict sense.
Starting point is 00:22:53 It is a little weird, and it's just like the lines are blurred lately in that teams are, there's that zone man concept. You know what I mean? Right. And there's combinations and there's man match and all that. Yeah. Right. We're just looking for that one little edge.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Right. But all I'm saying is the Eagles don't play what is known as cat defense, meaning you got that cat. They don't play that. Yeah. Understood. Understood. How about Leonard looking pretty good, huh?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah. And you saw on my notes, he plays the most snaps. You know, I don't know what you thought before the season or what others in, you know, your business. in his thought, but he plays the most snaps for two reasons. He's a really good receiver, and he's strong and past protection. And you better be strong in past protection for Tom Brady. And I made the point of my notes that Baker had a sack in the second quarter when Bernard was the back, and he just drove Bernard right back into Brady. So Fournette plays for those two reasons.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I mean, size is an attribute in pass, bro. Yeah, I mean, he's, and they run him just enough. Like, he's not going to gain 1,200 yards this year, and he's not going to get $200,000. 50 carries, but depending on the game, he'll get anywhere from like 12 to, you know, 18 carries. And it depends on the game. You know, he's doing exactly what I thought he would do last year. I didn't love him this year, but I didn't hate him or dislike him. And I've always disliked Ronald Jones. I'm out of Ronald Jones person.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Fournette fits the way the Bucks play with Tom Brady. Yeah. And again, to your point to the whole point of like the topic of the month there, the physicality in the running game, you know, Brady is not a second reaction guy. He's 44 years old. He wasn't a second reaction guy when he was 23 years ago. True. True.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It wasn't even the first reaction. Right. Well, and in Miami's defense here, I mean, I guess it's Jacksonville, but you did see Trevor Lawrence and he's... Yeah, I think he's improving each week. Yeah. I really do. Let me ask you about real quick.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Loviska Chanel, it seemed like his role changed a little bit, playing more outside last week. Yeah, I mean, I didn't study that, you know, but they've also had... some injuries at receiver. So, yeah, you know, he's... I'm struggling with Chanel, though. I'm not seeing much here. Like, he seems a little sluggish. I wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I thought, you know, I thought he had a cut, you know, that 58-yard catch he had last week was pretty big time. I mean, he's not like a quick Twitch guy. No, but no one ever thought that. Well, I mean, a lot of slot receivers are. not all. Yeah, but he's not that guy, John. He's 220 plus pounds.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Oh, I know. But, I mean... He's explosive in a straight line, and he's powerful. He's not quick twitch. I mean, does he compare to Cordero Patterson? Cordora Patterson is not a receiver in a strict sense in the NFL. Right. It's kind of my point, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I'm just struggling, like, what is Chanel? Well, he's a wide receiver for the Jaguars. Yeah. Okay. more specifically. I mean, what do you're, I know what you're struggling with. You're struggling with the fact that you probably thought he put up better fantasy numbers than he has now. And I think as their past game keeps progressing with Lawrence getting better,
Starting point is 00:26:10 Chenault will end up being, you know, a bigger part of it as well. Well, I think you can line him up in the slot. You can line him up outside. They throw a ton of screens to him because he's really powerful run after catch. He's straight line fast. He's not shifting. he's not loose hip, he's not quick twitch. Everybody knew that when he came in the league.
Starting point is 00:26:31 That's not a mystery. In terms of the gadget stuff, I get that totally, but I guess at the end of the day. What's gadget stuff? Well, you know, the first carry last week was a reverse, you know, like a run. Right. But I mean, they do that. Like the 49ers have done that for the last couple years with Debo Samuel. You know, so in some ways he's like that, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Right. And whether he starts putting up those kinds of numbers is a function of many other things. They still have Marvin Jones, you know, who's, you know, for all intents and purposes, they're number one. But I think Shonaut will be fine. I mean, again, I can't speak to what his numbers will be at the end of the year. But don't think of him as a guy, oh, I don't like him because he's not quick twitch. That's not what he is. That's not who he is.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Well, I don't like him because he's not producing numbers right now. Right. Right. There you go. My point was really this, because they're starting to play like Tavon Austin in the slot. So maybe they're moving Chanel outside. So to narrow it down, do you think he would be better utilized outside or in the slot where he was most of last year? That's a tough question.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I mean, I think you can line him up outside. You know, he can do that. I think they'll move people around. You know, I don't, I don't, look, Tavon Austin is not going to play 60 snaps a game. Yeah, yeah. We spent way too much time on LaVisca Chanel, the guy that most people aren't starting. But I've struggled to, I mean, it's a fair guy to struggle with. You know, he's not a prototypical wide receiver, you know, outside wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You know, like, again, he's a little gadgety. They're running and all that, things like that. But we move on to the bill offense and that whole match up the big game. actually I'll go to the built defense because, you know, I saw them week one. I was like, oh, wow, this looks like a shutdown D, like big time. And that's held true to form it. It feels like to me, I guess they talked about on the broadcast. I was watching on TV.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I was at an establishment. I didn't hear it. But they kind of, you know, tried to build this defense basically to stop the chiefs, you know, against the edge my ass wrench. I mean, basically what they did in this game, they had a template going into this game, and it worked for a number of reasons. They played at a split safety on literally every snap. I don't believe they blitzed one time.
Starting point is 00:29:00 They rushed four. They played a lot of zone at a split, and they played a lot of two-man. And it's funny because as I was watching that tape, John, I was thinking, God, you know, I remember two weeks ago, the Chargers played a lot of two-man, and the cheese struggled. Then I thought back to the Super Bowl, and the Bucs played some two-man and they struggled. Oh, oh, blueprint, blueprint, blueprint, because they'll first. figure it out. But there's reasons why they're struggling right now against two men. And I,
Starting point is 00:29:31 you know me, I'm not a blueprint guy. And anybody that says that stuff, I just immediately dismiss because that's not the way the game is. But the point I'm making is they're struggling against two men. I looked up my home's numbers versus two men for this season and they're bad. But they'll figure it out because first of all, right now, there is no. rhythmic feel to the Chief's pass game. It's out of sync. It's too random. Mahomes is moving both when he's forced to and even when he's not forced to. But it's just an offense right now, a pass game that's that's out of sync. But getting back to the bills, they won't play that way against the Titans on Monday night. You know, that's, that'll be a whole different game plan
Starting point is 00:30:16 approach because they're playing a whole different offense. Yeah. I mean, I mentioned a month to go about like our teams daring them the beat to run on them and and or should they it's possible run a little bit more. You know, it's possible because and now they don't have Edwards Eilera for, you know, a couple of weeks at least. Yeah. Well, Darrell Williams, I mean, he can hold it down for a couple of weeks. I mean, he's not overly impressive, but pretty good in pass pro.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Decent short yardage guy. But should we be a little concerned for maybe pull back based on what we're seeing here? from expectations like Tyree clearly isn't going to go off every week and now hey Kelsey's not even going to go off every week um yeah that's hard to say I mean this was a specific game plan it worked um Washington does not play two man so you know I don't think you're going to see it very much if at all this week so I'll probably kill him then my I would be surprised and I could be dead wrong But I would be surprised if the Chiefs don't come back this week with a big offensive game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:24 How about on the other side? How good was the game plan and the performance of Josh Allen? And it's weird. It really does. We've been on this from the jump here. It really does feel like Dawson Knox is emerging. I know he didn't get a ton of targets, but they didn't throw it a lot. But I agree.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I think he's becoming a bigger part of what they do without question. Big time, right? Like, I mean, much of the- I mean, I don't think it'll be big-time. in the way, I mean, big time's a relative term. He's not going to get 10, 12 targets a week, but he's not going to be a non-entity either. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I'll take... I mean, obviously, the long touchdown, he was not the primary, but it counts. I mean, I think it's also a function of the chemistry that's blossoming right now, too, right? Because that was like a broken play. His first catch was a 23-yarder, which was a vertical route concept with mirrored crossing routes,
Starting point is 00:32:14 and then Alan just has to pick the throw that he feels more comfortable with based on the deep. defense and he liked Knox more. So in other words, Knox is part of that progression, but that plays that wasn't designed for Knox. It's a route combination and concept that the defense tells you where to go with it. Yeah, yeah. There's no, I agree overall that he's becoming a bigger part of it. I mean, he seems to be really moving well.
Starting point is 00:32:42 He's very athletic, very athletic. Do you notice that he's not thinking out there? seemingly? I can't answer to that, but. It seems to be moving pretty well. Well, he was always considered a really good athlete. I know that Jim Nagy, who does the senior ball, Knox came out the same year as T.J. Hockinson, and I know Nagy thought that they were equal athletically.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah, yeah. He was a high school quarterback and receiver, too. Very good athlete. I had one more here. We didn't get through everything on the notes, but fantasy points subscribers obviously can check out the, well, real quick. And there'll be more notes. You know that. I mean, I send you my notes at the end of the week, so there's more notes.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Give us a cliff notes on, on Treylands. A lot of design runs, so clearly. A lot of design runs, which kind of was it. By the way, two guys, I don't know if it'll continue, but I thought Davis Mills looked very comfortable this week. Yeah. Obviously, had a terrible game the week before in the rain in Buffalo, but against the defense, you know, a Belichick defense that normally makes it tough.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I thought he looked really poised, comfortable. They did a really good job with him in terms of the game plan and the approach, which helped. But he was, I thought he looked good. He's kind of an easy, natural thrower of the football. Trey Lance, a ton of design runs, made some really good throws, but throws a lot of rocket balls that, you know, he needs to throw a little more with pace and touch. It was kind of what I expected. There were some ups and there were some downs.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And then it depends on just your point of view. You know, if you like the ups, you'd think, oh, there was a better performance than I thought. If you're really concerned about the downs, you're going to say, oh, he's got a long way to go. I think it's a little bit of both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One other with the Cardinals. How about Kyler Murray not running as much? Yeah, that was interesting to me as well.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Very few design runs. It's like almost only the red zone this year. Yeah, I mean, very few. And it really stood out to me in that game. 49ers, I mean, talk about blueprints. You know, they, you know, play zone coverage, trying to remove the explosive plays. Yeah, but they're not the first team to do that, John. Right. You know, so it's just that it worked in this game. You know, it worked. It's not, you know, it's. And it also helps against Kyler, though. Well, theoretically, yes. I mean, you don't want to play a ton of man because you don't want to
Starting point is 00:35:17 give him alleys to run the ball where nobody has there is facing him, no question. But it's not the first time someone's played zone coverage against Kyla Murray. Oh, sure. Let me, uh, Crowbar and Carson Wentz. We've been, you know, yeah, I didn't quite finish, but he's, he's, he looked pretty good. Yeah. Just, just, I mean, the ball location seems to be a little honest. Oh, the ball location was, was very good this week. You know, he missed one or two. And, uh, you know, you could say that about Stafford, he missed one or two. You know, I mean, but overall, I thought there was a calmness oat to the way that one's played for the most part.
Starting point is 00:35:53 He made a lot of good throws in that game, and he didn't look frenetic. Unfortunately, I don't know if we'll ever get to a place this year where, oh, he's back, you know, like it's going to be week to week, but he's hanging in there. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, he's talented guy. I mean, you can see the throwing ability when he makes the good throws. Didn't run much at all, which, you know, I think they would prefer that he not do that. Yeah, and Pittman's been real nice, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I mean, he's given him, I guess, all they could have possibly hope for in the second year. He's the one. I do like Mo Adolph. And I think their past game will continue to get better with each way. I mean, again, better is relative. You know, he's not going to throw for, you know, whatever the number of yards he threw for this week every week. But I would bet it'll continue to get better and become a little more consistent on a week-to-week basis. Their issue is their defense.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah, that's a surprise. which was not the issue a year ago. Nope, nope. Well, there it is. That's a little wrap on the week six matchup podcast here at fantasy points.com. Again, this one is just a little teaser in terms of some of the insight that we gain from Greg Costell's film study. So we'll wrap here.
Starting point is 00:37:01 We'll be back next week, of course, but also check out all the other podcasts here. The IDP podcast doing quite well. We got the Waverwire one on Tuesdays with Joe and Tom. DFS recap. That's on Mondays. And then we've got the DFS, you know, preview podcast, all kinds of podcasts here. That'll wrap it for Greg Kosell. I'm John Hansen. Good luck in week six. And we'll talk to you next week. Thanks for tuning in to this edition of the Fantasy Points podcast. Remember to subscribe, rate and review on your favorite platform. And come join the roster at FantasyPoint.com.

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