Fantasy Football Daily - 2022 Hansen's Hints: Preseason Insider Chat with Adam Caplan

Episode Date: September 1, 2022

John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) invites Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) on to discuss some NFL Insider tidbits, news, and updates from around the league one week out from Week 1 kickoff. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoints.com. Top-level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Here we go. Another edition of the Fantasy Points podcast, Hansen's Hints. I am John Hansen, recording Thursday, September 1st, September morning. Little Neil Diamond coming at you here, but it is draft weekend, basically. I think it's been watered down a little bit, but this is it, Labor Day weekend.

So we bring in Mr. C, Mr. Adam Kaplan, Mr. NFL Insider to catch us up post-final cuts. Mr. C. How are you, sir? I'm good, Mr. H. Yeah. I am good. I'm not. I've got, let me see, one tonight, so it's Thursday. So I've got one tonight at 8 o'clock, 805 actually,

on the Super Station WTVS. No, it's 805 for the NFFC. That's 835, sir, actually, at TBS. It's 835. No, but for pro wrestling for you, for those of you, for those of you used to watch wrestling on TBS, it was like 805. Well, that's what their clock was. So I love that, right, right.

So I got one a night and then I got one, let's see, Tuesday for the NFFC. We got the ACI tomorrow. Yeah, man. I got using your rankings exclusively exclusively. Yes. I thought you were going to say at fantasypoints.com. At fantasy points.gov.

Well, we're certainly in rare form today. We're a little loopy because we've been working hard, but we pretty much have settled down here with some final rankings. And if you're not a subscriber to fantasy points.com, it truly is ridiculous and absurd. But you can change all that. Use that promo code, 22 save 10%.

We implore you to get up all up in there. Because a wealth of information, getting a lot of compliments about how people are just learning so much about football. And just getting started. Well, Mr. C, you know football, but your main gig is the NFL information. So let's try and quickly as we can go around the league. Let's go NFC, Dallas Cowboys, anything jump out.

We're looking at Jail and Tolbert. the rookie starting week one. Yeah, this is my prediction to start training camp. I mean, that's what I'd heard that he should be the starter now. What does that mean? Does that mean he'll get 100% of the snaps over Fahoko? We don't know that yet. They had a battle in camp.

The guy is more explosive one. That doesn't mean they won't play kind of split snaps. They'll figure that as they go along. Tolbert's a rookie. Fahoko, second year player, didn't play much as a rookie. Michael Gallup will start working soon. He's not on PUP. That's a good thing.

as he comes back, he's coming back when his ACL injury. He's doing well. But the big thing is left tackle now. Right now, Tyler Smith is for left tackle, and they're probably going to sign Jason Peters, all 40 years old of them to supply some depth. But yeah, losing Tyron Smith before the season started does not make me feel good about their office.

Yeah, I don't know if you've talked to people around the league. I mean, your NFC East Heavy, like, what's the feeling? because I feel it's like teetering on catastrophe already. I wouldn't go that far. It's just because Tyler Smith will be projecting the quarterback's blind side. And he's super raw. That's the word around the league is he's super raw, really not. He's a guy that if you're going to draft in the first round,

you didn't want him to play your one. That was the word. I know some teams have the third round grade on him. Greg Kosell does not believe he's ready to play left tackle. There you go. So, and by the way, he ready. he had already lost a left guard job to Connor McGovern. Yeah.

So their depth is absolutely destroyed. They have no depth. This is a problem. There's no question. It is an issue. It is an issue. In Philadelphia, should we be drafting Kenneth Gainwell over Miles Sanders at this point?

No, that's a little strong. Though they're not, the head coach, Nick Seriali, would not guarantee Sanders is going to play week one. I find it hard to believe that. Well, remember two years ago, this is the downfall of Miles Sanders started with a preseason hamming. Yeah, well, his hamstrings, two years ago, he had a great two hamstring strain. And the ways to explain to me is if the game meant something, if it was like week 17, they had a win, he was definitely playing.

But they were not going to push it. Now, this one, I have not heard it. It's that concerning. But the fact that this isn't even an issue, you got to keep an eye on this. Not that anyone's drafting Sanders anything to be, then your flex option at this point. That's what he is. That's what he is. I think I'm going as far as I want Gainwell over San Diego.

Oh, so I was going to go there. That's where it's going. So Sanders, to me, is a flex option. So is Gainwell. Gainwell, to me, is going to be their primary passing down back two-minute, hurry up at the end of the half, a specialty back. Now, he did, he did struggle a little bit. After he came back from hip injury, he was really bad.

In fact, he sort of got demoted pretty much Boston Scott over him. for certain things. But the fact of the matter is he was drafted for a reason. He's going to be their main passing down back. The question for Sanders is, okay, if that's the case, he's going to be primary first and second down back, what does that mean? Can he still catch the ball in first and second down?

The answer is yes. And hurts will check it down. But it does hurt in PPR leagues is upside. That does cap his upside, unfortunately. If you're not going to catch the ball in a PPR league and you don't score touchdowns, you're pretty much a flex option of best. And guess what, folks?

That's what he is. And he's also not a very good short yardage guy on top of the goal. That's why he well and Scott were. Yeah. Scott has, what, 31 touchdowns in his career? He's a giant killer. Yeah. Guy's a good football player just not, doesn't have the juice that Gamewell has.

It's a three-headed monster, by the way. They're all three of them will split the work. It'll be first time they're actually going to probably have a committee would be this season unless Sanders could play himself. out of it, but there's been no sign that he can do it. My gut feeling is Gainwell is going to be a sneak go-down as a real sneaky. Yeah. 10th round pick.

I agree. It's a standalone value. Yes, you don't have to have standards. It's a good point, and we should make that point. And as we go through this, if there are some other ones that I have my eye on just as you set up, standalone of value running back later in your draft. Washington Commanders just did a draft today, actually. I was on the air.

and I definitely consider Brian Robinson. I'm going to call up when he went, but what's the latest in your mind on that situation with him and, you know, the backfield? I mean, they think he's going to be able to play this season. They just have no idea when. This is obviously, it's unique. He's got two gunshot wounds that first have to heal. He's got to get off the crutches.

They have to heal. He's got to get clear for contact. It's another unique part about this. It's football. It's not basketball or baseball or hockey. So he's got to get through it. And they'll know later, you know, they'll know in a series of weeks when he'll at least get clear to practice without contact and then contact.

That's kind of where it is. And Gibson's a lead back right now and they'll have to get through it. I mean, this is, you know, obviously it's not great. Your favorite term vibes about the worst of any running back in this preseason. And you make the best point of all just because Brian Robinson is on the shelf doesn't mean that Gibson is now cured of his ills that put him in this precarious position. to begin with. Yeah, and look, the hope is that at the very least he could stop fumbling, putting the ball on the ground.

This has been a problem of his, even when he was terrific as a rookie, 4.7 yards per carry and why you and I were so excited about him coming to the last season. It wasn't bad, obviously, but he just didn't live up to quite what we thought he would be. But now he's into a regression. The ball security thing he has control over, the lack of instincts for the position, there's nothing he can do about it. He's not a natural running back. And that's, that's what I told you back in February when I asked about what happened to him, according to team sources. It basically is

just, you know, it's hard to make up for that. When you've only played running back for one year in college and you were receiver before that, it's just really hard to make up for that lack of experience. And that's definitely showing. Well, we've been all in on Jahad Dotson from day one. He's been doing. So were they. I mean, the kid is unbelievable. Logan Thomas looks like he's going to actually contribute early in the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look, as much as you and I love Dotson and how much they love him talking to Washington about him, the question will be with Thomas coming back, McClorn and Curtis Samuel, I know we're not, we don't love the guy, but he's a very expensive slot receiver, 11.5 million. He's got to get the ball. McClearn's going to get the ball. He got his extension. So you can't expect Dotson be the number one pass target. That would not be fair.

No, no. Number two, though. What do you got him for projections? I mean, basically the number two. No, but number. Let's take a look. Jahan Dotson, 61 grabs for 855.

I got him for 55, 53 to 55 is my way. I always give a catch rate, 53 to 55. It's somewhere going to be on three games. I think it would be over 60. Yeah. I mean, could he get, I mean, 51 is three a game.

Could he, it could be their big games at five and six yes. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just, you got to get through Carson Wentz, though. By the way, Wentz and Dotson apparently are been terrific. May. They were hooking up in May. Yeah, I was told that pretty much.

Because Dots, here's why McClorn is at one side of the field play. I know it sounds crazy, but he is. And you're the only one that has really put this out. This is fascinating. Go ahead. McLaurin really prefers the exposition, despite his lack of size. He just, what it is, it has less to do with that. It's more about just one side of the field that he's comfortable with, and that's just the way it is.

Whereas Dotson is a pure Z. he can move everywhere and we'll play. He's a joker. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Maybe some handoffs too. Curtis Damon obviously can do that. So they've got an interesting group of those three receivers. You do, yeah. Diami Brown, we love, whose talent is.

I think he is good. Miami Brown, man. So here's a little pro tip for you, and I knew this would happen, and I've been in two draft so far. So let's say you're in a superflex or two-quarterback league, whatever you want to call it, and you're really struggling for your second quarterback. You're in like rounds 12 out of 16 or 10, 10 through 12, right?

That area. Oh, yeah. Carson Wentz is on the radar because it's going to be ugly. Don't watch it, but the numbers will be there. Yeah, yeah. He's the next Aaron Brooks, you know. Those QB 17 last year. Yeah, I know, I know.

And that's on low pass attempt numbers. Exactly. They hid the quarterback the last month plus. Yeah, and well, John and Taylor was great. He put the team on his back like Superman. But to move this along here, because of Gibson struggles, they're probably going to throw a ball more than they like. I know Scott Turner and, you know,

his dad and that power run game and all that. But it's a ball control offense. But you know what? The defense still not that good. I'm not buying yet in that defense. And I don't know they'll be able to run it well. And well, you've got to move the football. So Wenz will have the temp number should be in the low 30s per game,

which is a little bit above the league average, maybe. We're in the league average or so. But I like Wenz as a backup. If you're struggling, I think he'd be a good number two. Very cheap. That is for sure. Almost a guaranteed return on investment. For the Giants, you were there early in camp.

They were just going Gaga over Wondale. We love them. We both talk with him pre-draft, great kid, and everything else looks. Look, Cadar is Tony. It's like we're monitoring him by the minute this guy in his health. Yeah. Hey, you got David Sillsman, huh? Yeah.

For now he did. Yes, he did. They have seven receivers in the roster. But, yeah, look, when it comes down to it, Wondell Robinson, he's going to be a jack-of-all-trades. They'll use him as a running back. They use him in the slot. I don't know how much he could play in the outside because he's smaller. Now, we have to see about Sterling Shepard.

We don't know how much he's going to be able to play early on because he's not, they took him off of PUP, so we have to see what he can do. And he's only a slot anyway. I think your volume just went down a little bit. It did? No, I think you're good now. My bad. Maybe it's just my headset.

Go ahead. So we just don't know exactly how many touches, because I say touches, because Robinson and we'll run it. But this is a guy that passed the 10th round, I am going to be targeting. Oh, yeah. The smart fantasy owner understands that you were the first, you know, this is a simple point, but you'd pointed it out. If you just look at Cadarius, Tony and Gallaudy's injury history, one of the guys, one of every two or three games, probably one of these guys is going to be out, right? Yeah. And Sterling Shepard has always been hurt. So even if he's at worst, the, the, he fills him from one of those three guys, he's going to have value.

Then if two of these guys are out, it's going to have a lot of value. I got him today in the draft online with Sirius XM hosts round 13. So, you know, nothing but upside there. Yeah, exactly. Right. Pass round 10, yep. But upside. Well, anything else going on with the JAG?

I guess not. No, I cannot believe. And maybe they do it after week one. I know Brita, I told you to start training camp. They're playing ones to go. with Breed is the backup to Barclay. Yeah. But it didn't preclude them from adding them back after week one.

Must be Brightwell. They must like Brightwell. The Antonio Williams kid they like too. He's been, he was with Buffalo, so this group knows him. They're with him in Buffalo. But man, they need a true backup. Brady's got a bad injury history. He's really only a change up and a third down back.

DeVoske and Booker still out there. Who's that? Booker. Yeah. Devante Booker, yes. That would be smart to me. So I'd be very surprised if they didn't add it back after week one with size, by the way. In Chicago, going to the NFC North here, the Fantasy Points podcast recording September 1st, right in front of draft weekend, post final cuts, not a subscriber to the website. You got to get all up in there.

Hanson 22, use that promo code, save 10%. Chicago Bears. How about Justin Fields looking pretty good? the finale. I mean, hey, better than nothing. Yeah, no, he's getting better. He's a young developing quarterback. I just wish he had a better group of receivers to throw to, but they have what they have. They have our, they have our guy, Mooney. Other than that, it's just a, it's going to be a past target by committee between EQ, St. Brown, Pringle. Dante Pettis has a pulse. He actually earned that spot. He deserved to be on the football team. Yeah, yeah, he's got talent.

I know. He's a finesse guy. And Valis Jones. is there. It was a very old rookie at 25 years old, but he's got talent. But it's, this is why you and I like Kemet. I mean, I, I targeted Kemet in two leagues. I got him in one. Someone's got to catch the ball under than Mooney, who's, who's a big target. They were in on MVS pretty early and pretty hard, but the money got too rich for him, so they backed out. They need someone to help Mooney out. And I don't know if EQ St. Brown could do it. Denzel Mims. Denzel Mams. Yeah, they didn't make that. Maybe they do.

You know, look, you saw Regger get traded yesterday. You never know. But somebody needs to, they need to add another guy with size. So we'll see what happened. And Rager moving there doesn't move the needle for you. I took two catches away from K.J. Osborne for what it's worth. Yeah, it doesn't matter. He'll, oh, Sanders has started working today at practice, by the way, Miles Sanders.

Good. So, yeah, I would say when you look at this situation with the Bears, Oh, Vikings. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, okay. You want to get to, you want to get to Rager. And I'll get to him a second note. Just one thing I want to touch on it.

Oh, yeah. Stand Atlanta Value Alert. Kaleel Herbert. Yeah, yeah. Even if you're not a Montgomery owner, Herbert's a guy late in your draft, is absolutely draftable. He's going to have a role.

It might be bigger than you think. Just let the situation play out. Wait, the minimum of four games. If he's not getting at least eight touches a game, then go cut him. Then I'll know the staff doesn't get it. But if he's getting double-digit touches per game, absolutely do not cut him.

And this guy could be a flex option. He is really gifted. Well, you know, Luke Getsey, for what it's worth, comes over from Green Bay. They've had a dual backfield approach there for... Yeah, right, fair. Well, this kid should have been on the field more last year. I don't care for he was a rookie.

He did a great job when he fell in. I mean, yeah, it was only because of the injury that he got out there. And then, oh, wow, this guy's really good, guys. Hello? Right, right. And then Montgomery comes back, and they go right back. to Montgomery. Well, that's one of the reasons why they're no longer coaching. Minnesota, we touched on.

Yeah. Doesn't move the needle for Osborne. Another weapon for Kirky, though. Yeah, look, he, when you look at their situation here, Fieland Jefferson, Osborne, Osborne had a phenomenal training camp. They love this kid. Reger would be their fourth receiver. He'll probably return punts.

No pressure on him. Madison was available. I thought, actually, when I knew Reger was leaving Monday to Philly, I thought Madison would be included in and he wasn't. Wow. Because you're a guy, Ty Chandler. That one floored me because Philly needed a four minute back in the worst way, which just means a power back to handle carries when you have a big lead.

So that was surprising that they didn't get them. They just took draft picks. And Earth Smith is, you know, Earth Smith's on the roster. He's going to be playing. And, you know, they have a very young offensive line. Finally, they're starting to get it right on the offensive line. And there's, there's, there's a. opportunity here. I like Kevin O'Connell as a play caller.

From what I understand, someone to work with him was very, very complimentary. Good. That's big. A big matchup guy. He understands matchups. So I'm intrigued by this offense. Green Bay. Do you have any thoughts on A.J. Dillon? A lot of people are very interested in him. They're looking at like splitting his backfield up 50-50. I mean, they don't have any other running backs, right? Yeah. I mean, yeah, they don't. Although they'll have one in the practice squad of the call-up on game day, but Yeah, it's an interesting thing.

So Dylan, again, he'll be their four minute back when they're leading. He'll be the guy to close the game. Jones will have the passing down stuff. Dylan will get a little bit more than he got last year in that area. You can't draft Jones as your first back. I think we kind of all know that. Even if you're in the second round, I wouldn't want him as my first back. It's just the injury history.

It's the frustration of having to do with Dylan. because he has not played to the level they thought, let's call it like it is. He shows flashes. If he ever plays like the second round pick they thought he would be, not saying he's taking Jones' job, but I'm just saying that his role could be a little bigger than we think, but I know it's hard to predict,

but that's kind of in him. This is his third year. He needs to start doing it. Yeah, I was underwhelmed. I was a big, I was out in front on Dylan last year, like giving him love. And he did produce more than fine, but I was again under well I didn't really count it as a as a win even though it was big time

I mean at the end at the end the numbers if you you know you but we play game by game most leagues and it just was not he was hard to trust yeah I that was it I just I was I had him in one of the seven leagues I was very frustrating he he was he was see it you know if you had to do it if you just had to suck it up and start him every week okay but if you were going by the it was tough of course when it got cold at the very least he had to that one game where Aaron Jones was out, right, in the playoffs, and he had two touchdowns. Yeah, they come through there. Not much going on in Detroit. I think we're good. Now, what the hell happened to Jamar Jefferson? I thought he made the team. Um, no, I told you, Craig. You

asked me, I told you Craig Reynolds would beat him out. All right. Well, I could have sworn I thought he made the team. I guess not. Wow. I played him. Well, there it is. So much for that one. We like Marne Jefferson is a long shot guy, but Craig Reynolds is very workman-like. Bloomsburg State, man, Bloomsburg. Or Couttsdale, Couttsdale. Andre Reed's school, yep. Andre Reed's alma mater. All right, we can move on to the AFC South.

Drake London's missed a lot of time at practice. NFC, South, yeah, yeah. They don't seem to, yeah, they didn't, they just decide to hold him out. It's weird. He got hurt, again, I think against Detroit in the first preseason game. It looked like an innocuous injury, like nothing. anything. But it turned out to be they decided to hold them out. Maybe they're being

very cautious. Yeah. Because they've seen enough. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to pass. I was not, he was a guided guy in a guy in the league I might want, but not in a redraft. They're just such a vanilla offense. Yeah. Yeah. For what it's worth, we had our guy, Roddy White on the radio show and, you know,

running up the flagpole with Roddy. And Roddy said he saw Drake London in practice and in camp, multiple days. is consistently getting separation on the outside. So he's got no problem with his separation abilities. No, look, he's a go-after and get-it kind of guy. The issue that you have is, unless they're behind him, yes, they'll be behind in some games

because their defense probably won't be very good. But their whole thing is to not throw the football very much and win with ball control. It's an ugly, it's just an ugly offense, man. It's just, yeah. They're going to win if they win any games, like 16 to 13, that kind of thing. Are you with me that Tyler Algier in this backfield is getting 200 touches? Oh, yeah.

He's drafted for the scheme for power and ball control. And you saw how poorly Patterson closed last season. Oh, so bad. Yeah, exactly. Carolina Panthers, and you were there not that long ago. He was a kid. Yeah. Baker was firing that football up there.

He was great. He looked healthy. His chemistry. It wasn't just when I was there for two days in New England or, yeah, Foxborough. Apparently, they got great chemistry between Mayfield and DJ Moore from the very start. Yeah. So they traded for Chanel. They wanted a power, what they call a power slot.

They more Anderson, Marshall, or Frenness, they wanted someone with play strength. And that's what he'll do. Not that he has any value for fantasy, but does help Baker. They think he will. and Hollywood Higgins is guys there and Shy Smith is their other slots so they are loaded they're loaded with past targets

Baker's another guy if you need a quarterback not a bad idea if you're struggling in a two quarterback league Oh absolutely no question he's pissed he wants revenge and he's going to get it probably going to ball out

I mean a former walk-on guy like that that's the edge he needs I think and wants to vow vengeance right out of the gate. The backfield quickly, Foreman or Hubbard, if you want to protect McCaffrey. I'm still going for me.

Formen, oh, yeah. Okay. All right, good. New Orleans Saints, not a team I'm high on. I don't have a great vibe. Do you worry a little about Michael Thomas or do you just chalk it up to a veteran being cautious? What do you mean?

With his time that he's missed here, pulled a hammy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not. Here's the thing, though. this is another team because if you're going to coach James Winston, you have to know, understand something. You cannot ask him to throw the ball lot.

You just can't. You're asking you in trouble. As much as I believe in analytically coming out and throwing the football, that's kind of my background is in numbers and understanding what wins in the national football league. I'm sure he's coming out throwing. It's the volume of that you ask Winston. The more you ask him to throw, the more mistakes he makes that he forces throws. if you don't get behind the sticks,

stay ahead of the down, just, they got, Kamara looks great, by the way, he's healthy. If you don't put the whole game on him, the offense has a chance to be productive because with Thomas, Alave, Landry, Calloway is a good player. I know you don't love the tight ends, but they, you know, they have Juan Johnson's an athlete.

Troutman will be their main guy. And Tassum Hill was going to play the same role he did before, matter what's been reported, my understanding is he's still going to have the goal line stuff. And they can call him all they want, but they'll have packages for him. So there's enough there for James to be another sneaky number two quarterback for you in a two quarterback league. But understand that if you're losing two points per interception or more, this is what you have to suffer through because there'll be games that they're not, their defenses are shown

up, whatever the reason is. Yeah. Will they be, he was very efficient last year touchdown wise? that's going to be hard. Oh, like that one game, the one where you, what, 20 passes and five touchdown? Oh, he probably led the NFL in like points per dropback last. Right, right. Well, I don't know how realistic that is, but normally you like your quarterback to throw 32 to 35 times per game.

That's a sweet spot for a decent young quarterback. This guy forces so many throws that you hate to hide the quarterback because there's so much talent at receiver, but you don't want to put it all on him. If it was Drew Brees, go ahead, throw it 40 times a game. good but yeah yeah yeah Tampa Bay seems like the vibes are getting better you know Brady's been sharp

receivers are on the men you still seem a little skeptical I am I I'm big on you know I study offensive lines because I've I have a couple of friends who are coaches in the league so I kind of know what they think of these situations when we discuss them and it does worry me the lack of depth

that that Tampa they literally Josh well more injury Josh Wells is a journeyman. You don't want him playing. He's their top backup tackle or left tackle. Fred Johnson, I know they like him. They got him, I believe, from Bengals, from a waiver claim. But, yeah, he's just okay.

They don't have any depth. They can't afford to not have these guys playing. They're going to go with the two young kids, Gedecki and Hainesi. And you pray, no one else. They're down four linemen from last year. You know, that's how bad it is. So you got to hang in there.

The receiver group's great. Bray will be their main catcher at tight end. And Darden's their shot play guy. I mean, they got plenty of past options. The past dark group is terrific. Even without Gronk, it's still very good. It's, you worry about this line. Rashad White going to be a very interesting pick this year.

Yep. Little boomer bust, but I believe he's going to hold some standalone value quickly maybe that week one okay i don't know but yeah i don't know about that early but not so i said maybe not week one but maybe by september's end wake me up when september ends yeah i he's a stash and hope guy he's you just for net will eventually miss games is pretty much what's going to happen with him because of his his fluctuating weight but um though the the bucks did tell me he came in at his normal weight he does look um good this summer yeah yeah so we'll see though we'll see

just because you're at a certain way, it does not mean you're in great game shape. And it's always been about soft tissue with him. So keep an eye on that. I love White, though, in a dynasty. Like, he's a guy that is a building block. Really is, man. Throwback guy, you know. I mean, I feel like you can plop that guy right in 1988.

No one would notice. NFC West, Cardinals. I don't have much here. Zach Ertz has been down with a hammy, I guess. He's not worried about that. be going week one. That's a question, though. And Ron Dale.

If Ertz is not ready week one, it would surprise me. Because what teams do now, when a guy's got a hamstring injury, which is not exactly totally minor, they just shut him down and get him to the regular season. Knowing how tough Zach is, if he can't play week one, it means that the hamstring injury was pretty significant. Yeah. All right. moving on here at the Fantasy Points podcast.

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content matchup stuff data stuff it's going to be amazing uh fantasy points dot com all right um nineers once again backfield in flux but now it's down to mitchell wilson tie davis price and then the undrafted jordan mason out of georgia tech mason was they they they knew it once the word got out they couldn't they couldn't sneak into the practice squad because you'd have to go through waivers first so yeah that's why they kept him and they cut sermon and davis Price was the guy that I thought would beat him out. And then it was weird. Sermmer was on the roster.

And then they added another player, so he was off the roster. Look, Wilson, Wilson's got some size. They like him. He's been there since 18. The long-term handcuffer, Mitchell will be Davis Price, though. He's a really good fit for their scheme. He had a good camp. They like him.

Mitchell, you know, he's not built to be a starter. He's built to be in a committee. I'm interested to see what the ball distribution will be for that backfield. Yeah. Trace Harmon did not land on the practice. squad either, by the way. Does he claim? No, I don't think he was claimed, but he's not on the Niner practice squad.

That's crazy if they didn't. Well, you could still do it. It's not like there's some kind of rule. You can't add him there, but that's surprising he wasn't at it. Seattle, pretty quiet here. Ken Walker. I'm avoiding that backfield, to be honest. Even Walker, huh?

Not in a dynasty. I love him in a dynasty, but just for this season, he's coming off groin surgery. Be careful with what Pete Carroll says about he's one of these most. super optimistic coaches. It's true. What he says publicly is not reflective reality sometimes. I mean, you're talking season, whole season in jeopardy in terms of like having a nice rookie year?

Like this is a real problem? No, but I'm just a guy at Gron Surgery. He's a rookie. He's missed a lot of time. This worries me. Yeah, right. You know, when a guy comes back in four to six weeks, it doesn't even mean it's healed.

It's like you're going to be sore when you come back. I've talked to players that have had this. It's done here near the Eagles Complex, by the way, from Dr. William Myers, is terrific. But you're going to have a degree of soreness. It's never good when a rookie who's just to have a good role, misses off or most of it or.

Right, sure. But still, ninth, tenth round. Yeah. He's probably later in the season. Second half of the year. Yeah, exactly. But I'm just saying I'm not, this is one where I'm not,

I'm ignoring them for the first half. L.A. Rams, you were at, you've seen the Rams this summer. Yeah. You thought from everything you saw and heard cammakers look good, but then, you know, a couple of injuries pop up here. Yeah, this Kyrin Williams kid is someone we didn't really talk about,

is someone out of Notre Dame to keep an eye on because we know about Henderson's significant injury history. That probably won't stop based on his history, the first three years. And Cam looked terrific, they said coming back. He looked normal, but he's got to be able to show he can play through injury. He's another guy that I've avoided in two drafts. So I probably would not draft unless he's an unbelievable value. I just don't have a good feeling about him.

Yeah, me either. Me either. No, it's a tough call. And when it's a tough call, you probably better just avoid. Dynasty League alert, strictly for way, it won't help you in the next two years, which most people say, ah, forget it then. This Lance McCutcheon's a real thing. This is not a fluke. They just did a tremendous job of scouting.

I know the coaches are working with him. He's a really good kid. Number 82 made the roster. He led the NFL in receiving in the preseason. It could be like their new Josh Reynolds. Um, probably better. He runs better, number one. He's pretty fluid. He just, he's, I don't know the total background. I know he went to Montana State. So, and maybe he didn't have good numbers. I have to look it up. And he was under, he wasn't drafted for a reason. But if you're looking for someone, your last pick of your draft, it was, you know, rookie draft. Rookie draft. Yeah. Yeah, right. Exactly. Rookie draft. He would be got to take because there's, there's, they're, they're going to, Robinson, they're stuck by contract through 24. No, through 23. This is 22, 22, 23. So he could be gone and then he could be the ex-receiver.

This is if everything worked out right. Right now, he just barely on the roster. They don't have any up-and-comers. No, two-two is just, that was a mess. That's a bad pick. Over in the AFC West here, Fantasy Points podcast, along with Adam Kaplan, with John Hanson, me. Denver Broncos, pretty quiet.

Russell Wilson gets an extension. He's locked in. Sutton looks great. He looks so good. I got sniped both drafts. He was always my favorite, you know, for the multi-ligament injury. He's back to normal, explosive, long, goes and gets it. He's what Kenny Gallaudy should have been. Yeah. And I think Sutton's going to be way better than him. If he could stay healthy with Wilson's ability to throw the ball down field. Yeah. I'm all in on him. Yeah. We've certainly been of that. opinion from day one that it would be Sutton over Judy, but I've actually warmed up to Judy the Tim Patrick injury certainly helped and weird vibes with Albert L and Eric Dulcich or Greg Dulcich on the IR for four weeks. So moving on, nothing else going on there. KC. Well,

what do you think of this backfield now that Ronald Jones made the team? I think that's huge for Pacheco truthers. Ah, it's, I think you and I are seeing this the same way. It's one thing to say, okay, I'm looking for a handcuff for CEH. It's not set who's going to be a handcuff. They're all if in the in-game handcuff without any injury, it'll be a rotation. If CH gets hurt, if they trust them, it could be Bacheco number one, but Jones would be involved.

McKinnon can't get a lot of work because of his injury history. The one knee is pretty, pretty. bad if you look at his history he's still able to play but you can't play him a lot right but you got the key about fantasy is having realistic expectations it's juju and the fourth which makes no sense we'll see what that looks like the season having Pacheco going what did did you say he went in the seventh round one year draft eight round he went one pick in front of CEEH in a high stakes draft i did in mid august there were a couple crazy picks like like James Connor going to the third over I gave you that list of players he was being drafted over, which I thought was kind of nuts.

I just don't see it with Pacheco. To draft him in the upper half. I don't think he's any good. Well, he's got some talent, and I know that there's some knocks on him from college tape from Rutgers, I was sold. But if you draft him in the upper half of your draft, that means you think he could start for you or be your flex option. I don't know where you're getting that. I think he has got the very good run instincts, natural abilities, things like that. That's the stuff I was trying to, you know, I told you that when you asked.

Yeah. That's what I was told in a scouting report. So I don't know. People go crazy because it's the chief's offense. They have overhyped everyone not named Tyree Kill over the last few years, and they've all been wrong. But you know what? I hope people keep sleeping on Skymore.

Just be patient. That's all I'm telling. He's a rookie. Be patient. But it'll pay off later in the season. Yeah, we're all in and we're all out on Juju. We could give a damn about me, Cole. Could happen.

Probably not. And then, MVS, I'm agnostic. stick on. Yeah. I can see him having a role and make some plays for sure. Moving on. Yep. Raiders. Now this Waller thing, was that all it was? I'm still weirded out by it. What do you mean? Well, was it basically a holdout or did he really, was he really down with a hamstring? I don't know. It seemed like a hold in. Hold in, yeah. Yeah, and he changed agents. He's now known his third agent. He'll get a new deal. I wouldn't worry about that.

But what about a summer of not exactly intense workouts? Yeah, I mean, he's 30. I mean, I'm not targeting him, but if he's available in a certain round, and I need to end, I probably would add him. I mean, he's not, there's certain tight ends when he turned 30. You go, you know what, the guy's still getting job done. I'll draft him where he should be drafted. It's just with Waller, he was hurt badly last year.

He was obviously disappointment for most people. and yeah he had a quiet camp and he's on Drew Rosenz gets the deals done so I'm sure he'll get the deal done for Waller but look it's going to go through Adams he'll be the top pass target now two could wind up being Renfro over Waller Waller B three

that's pretty much pretty much it Zemir White going to get play like right out of the gate I would say yeah yeah for sure absolutely I mean you're not going to give Bolden the number two job and Dull is a change up some third down. Yeah, man. Jacobs is healthy and he's a lead back.

He fits, they like their lead back to have a lot of volume. And Josh Jacobs is that guy. Not that I will draft him. He's a guy I'm wary of just because of injury history. He doesn't, he doesn't recover. Like, he's pretty, he gets bruised up pretty easily. Yep. Yeah, not for me.

He's not for me. But he does have a chance. If you're struggling for running back, you know, fifth round, if that's, I don't know where he's going, but yeah right there you know if that's what you need he'll get your volume yeah certainly would could get the touchdowns he's had a couple of good touchdown years of ADP of 75 okay a six round moving on here fantasy points podcast aFC west the chargers pretty quiet here although uh the addition of sony michel is a buzzkill for isaiah spiller man

Yeah, well, it didn't hit. It's because of Spiller getting hurt and not, he didn't do anything in training camp. So he got hurt too. Yeah. So Michelle, Michelle, if it all works out, he, he's not guaranteed to be on the team this like, you know, all season. Yeah, yeah. That's how he does. But they barely need a, they need a four minute back when they're up.

They need a power back they could trust. Now, he'll have to learn the offense. It's, you know, Joe Lombardi's version of Trump-Patant's offense. He'll have to learn terminology and everything else. But the fact that there's a correlation to New England there. Maybe it's a non-traditional offense. It's a blend offense, which we call a combination of West Coast, North Turner system. A little Parcellian.

Well, it's really. The Earhart. Yeah, yeah. It's a blend of a bunch of systems. So the fact of the matter is, though, they wanted a power back they could trust. And this could be that guy. let's go over to the a fc south uh houston finally happening uh damien pierce sitting there 11th round pick and you know april may june july and now he's like people taking them in the

sixth it might get out of control i know i mean look he won the job as i was told two weeks ago was over they made the decision they just happened to cut mac now it's the timing what didn't have anything to do with him winning the job pierce was dominant in training camp wasn't just the play preseason. He is a very unique running style. He clearly is their best back. They could have had seven backs on the roster. He was going to win the job. That's kind of way they look at it. He was just better than they expected. And they think this is important because they're going to be a run first offense at our lobby. This is what he wants. They believe he could grind carries out. That's big. Yeah. So now does that mean 13 a game, 17 a game? He is a rookie. They have to get

there first. But as someone told me, we think he could grind carries. I'm like, all right. I like that phrase. I'm going to use that. Thank you. I mean, that's, now we're talking thousand yards. Potential. Well, as long as he does his job and he's got to play. Look, he couldn't look any better than he did in the preseason. He was so fun. I don't, folks, if you haven't watched him, he's got a very unique running style, great energy and urgency. That's exactly the words I use when I did a show in Mobile, watching them in practice.

Okay. Yeah. I love watching them. So. Energy, urgency, burst, juice, sauce. You know? He's not fast by any,

he's definitely not fast, but he's, one of his unique, he runs low to the ground. And his, his second, his second level vision is pretty, pretty something special.

I saw a little Frankie Gore in him. He's got a little of that vision like Gore had back in the day. But look, It's preseason. Take it for what it is. Feel good about it. Don't start thinking he's a top 10 fantasy back. I'm not going there. Don't misunderstand. I love watching the kid play, but I'm not going to overhype the guy. I'm just going to, I got him in our fantasy points dynasty league. Feel good about that. Graham Barfield offered me a pretty good trade off to tell him. I got some bad trades from offers before, but this is actually really good. I'm just not doing it. I'm a, I was a fan. And his, his run after contact's really good.

Not, I'm not trading. Good and pass pro. Very scrappy and past pro. Now, I hope we don't get the annoying Rex Burke had goal line stuff. Oh, we will. Oh, we will. You know it's coming, right? In Indianapolis, not a lot going on here.

Mo Ali Cox is, you know, probably a little bit more entrenched, but I still don't trust it. Alec Pierce is, I guess, in with the, Campbell, Paris Campbell, good vibes there. They are still thin, though. So it's boring. It's very boring right now in Indy, but we know what's going to happen. Taylor and Pittman, and then we'll see what else. And then checkdowns for Heinz.

Yes, he will get, I promise you, he will get checkdowns. We told you last summer, don't, I said, don't believe that Heinz is going to get a lot of catches because Wenz doesn't like checking it down that happened, unfortunately. That's why we didn't even mention McKissick, by the way, even though he's probably going to get, you know, helped by this Robinville. A little bit. Well, I know they told me privately that they think that won't happen that Wence has bought in to checking it down. He's never done that before, but okay.

Oh, in year six, so we're seven. Yeah, right, right, right. Year seven. But here, Heinz, and I love what Frank, Frank Reich said, he said in OTAs. I don't play fantasy football, but I will draft him, Heinz, because he's going to catch the ball. Yep, we were on that in like March. Jacksonville.

Now, in the draft I did today on the air, I got pinched a little bit. I had the fourth pick, 12-teamer came back. I was hoping for Giovante. I had to go E-T-N. Was that a little too early for E-TN? Oh, second round, so it was like picked... Oh, second and... Oh, second round.

Yeah, huh? Pick 20. Well, was it your first back? Yeah. Ooh. Oh, well, you know what? Here's the thing about E-TN. everything that they're doing matches what he won his skill set they're they're they're a spread

west coast Doug peterson's going back to the 16 and 17 offense when they were pure three receivers all the time the jones is and kirk single back ETN he's their lead back when robinson gets in good enough shape he'll he'll he could be their four minute back if they get a lead you know if they ever get one snoop conner will be the two for now and tuesdays. until they know what to do with. They just don't know how much Robinson. And by the way, they also have to Michael Hasty off waivers.

But ETIAN is so gifted, so gifted, and he's going to be split out. I mean, would it shock you if he caught 70 passes or more? No, and we just talk with Michael Dorocco, who's at practice every day. And he said, you can't even tell he was seriously injured. I know, no, I told you. He was running in February, man.

He looks great. I saw him. The day I was there, so DRock. And ETM put a show that day. And to further tell you what type of offense it is, Evan Ingram's their slot tight end. They're a spread offense, man. They're back to Philly in 16 and 17.

So I took him with the fourth, the last pick and around too, right after that Chubb and then James Connor went. So then like seven picks later, Zique went. Then no running backs went for two rounds, a round at least. So I had to. And that's what happened. and see, there's a penalty you pay. If you go with a receiver in the first round,

if you're picking the first five, let's say you take Jefferson. Feeling great about yourself. You get the third pick overall. If you go with a receiver at third or fourth overall, let's think you take, you have chased it forward. You always got to think, who's the running back I'm getting? Now, ETN is not playing the NFL yet in a regular season game.

I'm pretty bullsh on them. Super high end second back. I just don't know how many touchdowns will score. but if you're in one point per PPR scoring, if you're struggling like John was, I got no problem as your first back. I'll live with it. I'll just live with it.

So the question was in that, by the way, would I have been better off going with like, let's say, Delvin Cook and Debo? Ooh, I love that. Yeah, I know, I know. Well, I made the decision to go Jefferson. Well, the only problem with Debo is because at Lance's inaccuracy, you're going to have to,

that's something you're just all going to have to live with is whether you have IUC as well they're going to be games where he's just off and you're like why did I play these guys today? It's just what's going to happen. I'm about Jail and Waddle by the way. I got him in the fifth round. I was talking to a friend of mine who is high stakes fantasy player yesterday. And he asked me for my sleepers and I said you know you can't call Waddle a

sleeper. In fact, no one's talking about him, although he's going he's going on what fifth round? He's on what third or fifth round? I mean, I think, yeah, he's going like late, third, early fourth, but I got him in the fifth. Yeah, so third to fifth. But he has an injury. It's going through Waddle. It's going through Hull. It's going through Hull won't go through Waddle anymore.

I'm just hoping. I'm just hoping no one, because I got at least three more drafts. I'm hoping people just let him fall to me in the fifth. Whereas if he, if Hill wasn't there, I would draft him as my first receiver. I'm definitely not doing it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 100%.

You know, I had to. yell at Mike McDaniel at the combine about pumping him up for fantasy. Freaked him out a little bit. Then they went ahead and traded for Tyreek. Did he introduce himself as, hey, Mike McDaniel, who are you? Yeah, he did. Yep, yep. I love that.

He surmised that I was in the fantasy business because I said, if you keep telling people who to draft, you're going to be out of a job here, sir. Very, very nice guy, though. Moving on, well, I think we can move on from the Jax for sure. at Tennessee. Well, the summer trail in Berks, he scored in that finale, but I mean, you can have scored on that.

Yeah, he's, he missed a lot. Yes, you know, he missed a lot of the offseason. Wasn't practicing. He's asthma. They feel he's got a basic idea of the offense. He's getting better with it. Now, they're going to go with him as a backup.

Westbrook Aquina and Woods are your starters. Berks will be the first guy in on the outside. Phillips slot. Racie McMath is. their shot play guy. Love that name. Yeah. I see.

McMath. I've never known a McMath. McBath, but not McMath. Yeah, yeah. My son is a math tutor. You should go change his name from Hansen to McMath. So they got a bunch of offensive line changes.

Aaron Brewer will be first a full-time starter left guard. Petit Ferreari will start over Redence. And Malik Willis, they made this decision about a week ago. He'd be the number two. let him learn on the job. You saw he did some good things the last game. Doesn't mean he's not super raw. Doesn't quite know what he's doing yet, but he's got a lot of tools. And yeah, Haskins, his little nugget for you. If Henry couldn't play, Haskins, not Hilliard, would be the third down back, a little nugget for you. You mean the Lilley down back?

Well, passing down for sure. Really? Yeah, Haskins is a really good pass protector, which I didn't know until a week ago. That's surprising. I interviewed him pre-draft. Great guy. Okay. Now, you'll see in-game that Hilder be the change job. Hilliard, if no one gets hurt, Hilliard probably will, in fact, I'm sure he'll get more work than Haskins. But if Henry gets hurt, Haskins will be the guy to get of the two.

Let's go to the A.C. North, Baltimore, J.K. Dobbins. I hope J.K. stands for just kidding because he's now attacking fantasy people on Twitter. Why? I guess somebody speculated in a video of him doing a job. drill that he came up with a limp. I don't know, maybe he joined a gang. But what do you think here with Jake? I am not feeling it.

I haven't drafted him and I probably won't because what I don't do, and this has been sort of like the key to success and when my teams do well, when I don't feel well good about a player, I just don't draft him. Look, if he's in there in the eighth round, okay, I'll draft him. But if I don't have a good feeling for him where his ADP is, I'm just not going to draft him. Let someone else deal with that headache. Great.

If he does well, okay, good for you. I don't want any questions. I just, as few questions, you can't. Look, when you get past the third round, they're questions. I get it. But I want to eliminate as many as I have, and I don't have a feeling for Dobbins at all. Especially with the Drake now in the mix. All he does is add questions.

The fantasy annoyance, yes. Cincinnati Bengals, they're very quiet. They do add Devon Assy Asi, who has some talent. That's not a bad tight end too, long-term project guy, but didn't make it in New England. Yeah, well, he should have been. Remember, they drafted two tight ends in the third round. Yeah, yeah, yeah, years ago.

That was a mistake. I thought Osiasia was a pretty good prospect. He's not bad. He's a decent athlete, but anyway, there's really not, you know, you got a bunch of offensive line changes for it from last season. The only guy who's back as a starter is Jonah Williams, who's a good player. We can move on.

Yeah, you know, Pete Ryan would be the handcuff. There's really not much talk about. Oh, right. That is a good point, because Chris Evans is still. kind of this tweener guy. Yeah, yeah. Cleveland Browns, they kept five backs here.

Felton? Yeah, Felton's sort of a jack-of-all-all-trades back. Ford had the great preseason, so they were not going to cut him. Dearness is on a one-year deal. Hunt's on a final year's deal, and Chubb is the guy. So after this season,

Johnson could be gone. Hunt could be gone. Fulton doesn't factor in. So Ford, in Dynasty League, he might have some value because you know what Chubb's injury history, he's another guy who's super jacked up, but built and gets hurt. You're right.

Love the talent, but he gets hurt a lot. We don't like the jacked up dudes. We just don't. Mari Cooper going to get a lot of them. By the way, Chub, McCaffrey, and Barclay, or all the jacked up dudes, and they're all been hurt. All been hurt. Now, you wouldn't call Giovante jacked up. No, he's just compact.

He's jacked up in a Barry Sanders way. He's a compact guy. He's not a jacked up guy. No. Yep. Marry Cooper going to get a lot of targets. Oh, yeah. DPJ is okay.

He'll be the main guy as the X on the outside. Cooper's your Z. Bel slide. Who is going to be very involved. Well, he's their three down today because he blocks. Yep. You know, they don't have the good thing is if you're, someone else has got to catch the ball other than Cooper,

so someone will do that. In Pittsburgh, I'm going with week three for Kenny Pickett. They've got, I think it's Cincinnati and Tampa. I'll go week five or six. But pretty good vibes here for Kenny Pickett. Just as we thought he would be. This is who we thought he was. I didn't get it right.

I predicted back in May that Pickett would be Trubisky out. It was close. He actually closed the gap where he wasn't. To start training camp, he was at distance three. Yeah, he was. And then he just was so accurate and started to get, because he was too conservative to start training camp. Then he got very aggressive throwing it.

And it started showing. And how about our guy, George Pickens? How about Jerry Doolock of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette? Guys been around decades. Tells me and Adam on Sirius XM the other day that Pickens, I don't even know if he isolated receiver. I think he may have met any position, but even if it was just receiver, it's still impressive.

George Pickens may be the most impressive physical specimen that he's seen in Steeler Camp ever. I mean, he just raved, and Jerry is, these guys are. He's not a raver. Grizzled a beat reporter. He does golf too. And he was like, I mean, I've not heard him or Ed Bouchette for that matter come on our show over the 19 years and speak so glowingly about a receiver. So, yeah, look, the great thing is they have a ton of past targets.

Deontay, Pickens, Claypole, say what you want about him. He's a big pass target. Calvin Austin, who's explosive, Fremuth. They're great with past targets. Their offensive line is not very good. it's below average. It's serviceable enough. Both quarterbacks are athletic. I'm okay with it. Jalen Warren is not the handcuff for me. I only had one back to get for the handcuff for Harris. I want Warren because why he's got some juice. Oh, good. I thought you were going to go the other

way with that. No. He can catch the football too. Oh, yeah. Yep. Caught it like 25 balls there his last year in college over in the AFC East and Buffalo. Keep an eye on Khalil Shakir, I would say, a potential waiver wire guy at receiver. Yeah, he, what they did was smart. I know everyone in the NFL pegged him to be a slot receiver, so the bills did not. They want him to be a guy who could back up every position like Gabe Davis did. Oh.

So he's Gabe Davis was the only receiver on the roster as a rookie to play all three positions. Good. And that's what you're trying to get done. I need to follow up with that. But the last I had heard, that's what they were doing with him. What else do we need to know? It's singletaries to lead back. You know, unfortunately, I wish I was wrong with that one, but I'm not.

Cook, I was hoping they would get, they're not ready to give Cook to split, make a, have it a total time share. Yeah, because Zach Moss too kind of reared his. Yeah, he's there and he'll grind some carries and he could be wind up their four minute back. Yeah, closer. Yeah, that's what a closure is, by the way. Cook looks good, four minute back. I love him. I'm a huge fan.

but he's a certain type of back. He's not like his brother. Yeah, he's exactly like his brother, just not as big and strong. No, he's not strong, yes. But everything else, he looks so much like him. It's eerie.

Even in person, too. And even, yeah, just walking around, it's like, Jesus does it looks like Dalwood. Miami Dolphins, you know, we're so down on Gisicki. I'm surprised with the, maybe Michelle look like dog dirt. Okay, that's their right.

Yeah. Looking at the season here, 17 games, with Edmonds, Moster, Gaskin, and Saved Ahmed, I mean, like, good luck, guys. Yeah, so Edmonds is their lead back, but this is one of those, I don't know what that means in terms of, is it 10 carries, 12, I don't see anymore in 12 carries a game. Mosterts are change up. And that's, yeah, it's, this is, you know, it's a committee to a certain extent. I just don't have, it's hard to predict how many carries for each guy. I mean, mostly has got to be a big factor.

What's that? Mostard has got to be a big factor until he gets hurt. Yeah. Yeah, they babyed Edmonds. He didn't have a ton of carriers in training camp. He could be sneaky. He's a little bit of a value. We do actually, I don't even like them that much, and we have them priced.

Neither do I, Johnny. But over the markets, ADP is 80. Our latest cheat sheet, I had him at 64. And I don't even really like them that much, but you got to give them the touches. Who, uh. Chase Edmonds. Yeah, well, no, look, they're paying them to be a, starter he's their lead back but again what does that mean i don't know how many carries that'll mean

well i'll tell you what i think it means on just i think 10 and a half carries a game would mine i have gotten for 10 to 12 a game well i have him with 10 10.5 a game right now okay now now the problem i don't i just don't know if they're down there i'm not i don't have a good feel for it right i do i'm with 50 catches i mean that's part of his deal yeah i guess uh new england what do you of the bad vibes. Look, I'm not... I guess people are just in covering the team. They're just resign.

We're going to suck this year. It's a... I don't see that necessarily. Well, I'd say this. It is bad. I was there. It was not good. I just don't know in the end.

Have they ruined Matt Jones? No. Bill Belchick's too smart for that. Now, did he help him? No. He didn't get a quarterback's coach or an OC that could help him. Bill's going to have to be involved, and this may not be great.

It may be a disappointing offense. But whenever I feel even so much strongly about the Patriots, whatever it is, the opposite tends to happen. I mean, that's just what I'm saying here. So we'll see. It's still a good O line. You know, the Tyquine Thornton injury was a bus kill. Well, you're going to get him back.

Be careful. Trent Brown did not have a good training camp. Cole Strange is a rookie. Right, okay. We don't know if the lights will be too big for them. The other stuff is coached up well. They have a new online coach. Yeah, they got, well, Patricia, I think is ahead.

Yeah, Dante Scarnack is long gone. Yeah, so Patricia, I think he's overseeing it. Man, it is a weird group, but the past our group's okay. Aguilar, by the way, sneakily had a very good camp. Yeah, very good. I'm told Parker, the media didn't know it, but they're very happy with Parker. There's one pitcher sort of told me. haven't had a true X in decades.

Look, I know that it's not sexy, but if the O line holds up, you're going to be effective on the ground with Damien Harrison, Stevenson. You'll have balance. And I could absolutely see Mack Jones going out there, slinging it downfield, pushing the ball down the field, to Parker and Agilor,

and then hitting Hunter Henry, Endor Janu, and or Kendrick Bourne, you know, in the middle of field. I mean, this could still be very, very respectable. I'm with you there. I'm with the latter. I think it could be respectable. John is healthy.

Everything's okay with him off the field. They was doing some stuff last year. That's it, man. Damien, Mr. Touchdown. That's what I call him. If it doesn't work out, we're going to blame a judge and Patricia. We're going to judge that. Well, Bill would be his dumb decision, but we wish him luck.

We wish him luck. The fantasy mumbler, Bill Belichick, the Jets. Where are you with the Jets? I mean, I haven't heard much about Zach Wilson. I've pretty much ridden them all. Rehab's good. Yeah, rehab's good. And they're not going to rush it.

He has to take a majority of the ones next week to start. They haven't ruled it out. I would be against it, but we don't know yet. Do have talented receiver, including Dental Mims, Davis, Elijah Moore, Wilson. That's pretty good. Like Tyler Conklin. Wouldn't be something because MIMS, that preseason game, he looked fantastic. See, they're running in a West Coast offense.

The kind of routes that Mims ran at Baylor don't really transfer it. this West Coast scheme. But you just saw the talent, my God. He just ran by. Exactly. He just ran by everybody. So get him involved. Corey Davis has been a big bust.

It's disappointment. He hasn't done anything. Eloges is our guy. Garrett Wilson's Mr. Body Control. Barrios is a jackknife. Hall be the lead back. Now,

they have to figure out what the carry distribution will look like early on. I don't know that yet. I mean, Carter could come out, get 15 carriers to all 14, I don't know. 50 carries, but.

In week one. I don't know. I don't, I need the show one I trust, so I need to get a little bit of information. But Conklin, if you're struggling for a tight end, late in your draft, man, take a fly. Yeah, we were on this so early. And your source there said the analytics people loved them. And he's been really great, apparently. Yeah, the source surprised me with that information because I didn't look at this source as a

analytics person. Well, that is Adam Kaplan there talking to people doing, insider columns on Sunday morning again at FantasyPoints.com. You can profit for sure. So get on the website if you're not. This is it. Big draft weekend. Our cheat sheets have been so ahead of the markets this year.

It's ridiculous. I mean, we were 40 spots over the ADP on Damien Pierce literally like eight weeks ago. Nice. So head on over there. Noyce. Head on over there. Promocode Noyes. No.

Promocode Hanson 22. That's H&S.E. yet. We don't talk to the Owens. Hansen, 22, 10% off. Mr. C, happy drafting. I will see you in the draft room on Friday morning, September 2nd in the ACI. That is America's favorite fantasy football league. But great information, sir. Thank you, sir. For Adam Kaplan, I'm John Hanson. There you go. There's 63 minutes of gold, Jerry Gold. The Fantasy Points podcast. We'll catch you next time. Thanks for tuning in to this edition of the Fantasy Points podcast. to subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite platform.

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