Fantasy Football Daily - 2022 Off-Season Hansen's Hints: AFC Insider Chat with Adam Caplan

Episode Date: June 29, 2022

John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) welcomes in Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) for some NFL Inside information. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time for the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Welcome everyone to another edition of Hanson's Hints here at FantasyPoint.com and the FantasyPoints.com media empire, if you will, here. At the very least, the podcast feed. I am John Hanson, although I am not going to be the one giving away the hints in this edition of Hanson's hints, kind of a little side podcast here on our feed where I'm going to be doing a lot of solo stuff.

But we got Mr. C here, Mr. Adam Kaplan here, to give some hints. And before I introduce Adam, I'll just explain quickly, very quickly the process. So the NFL draft takes place. It's been two months, but it takes time for. Adam to catch up with all his people for all 32 teams. Might not even hit all 32. So we've had a lot of information coming out from the OTAs and alike. And we all know that if we're really dialed in.

We can gloss over some of those items. But Mr. C is here to kind of empty out the insider notebook. Now, I will say he also does reserve some tips to the fantasy point subscribers, the paying subscribers. So we're not going to give it all away here, Adam, as we bring you in here. But you do have a good number of news, notes, and nuggets here from the OTAs. Hello, sir. How are you?

Welcome to the Hans and Sins podcast. Yeah, good to be with you today, John. So what I do, just to give you your listeners an idea, so I'll take you back two years ago. We had the pandemic. There was no offseason for any NFL player. There was nothing. And in fact, it was worse for the rookie. So what I did is,

I called in June some teams in particular. The two names have stood out to me that I thought were impactful, which I said, get these guys now in Dynasty League because I don't know when they're going to do well, if they do well, but you want to get on these guys early because they're the front office and coaches' stats very high on them. That would be Gabriel Davis and Dornell Mooney. And literally, I must have talked about Mooney 10 times for training camp. And remember, the reporters didn't have access.

They literally, you couldn't, if you're a beat reporter, you couldn't, you would not know this stuff. So, so why am I telling you this? This stuff comes from teams, from people who are coaching them or the people who are drafting or work with them closely. And they tell me the truth. If the guy, John knows this, because I tell them privately, when I, if John's high on a player, I go, hey, careful, I'll give you two or three things. If it's negative, I got to tell them. That's, that's why John hired me. Because I, I look at these things from an analytical standpoint and a, in a reality standpoint of where the player is. And I go, just be careful. You don't want to go too deep with this player. Or when I gave you the tip on Swift, I said, hey, my guy told me of the

lions that his past protection is really good. And they're going to have him in on past situations as a rookie, which, okay, that was a good nugget. So that's the kind of things I'm looking for. And when a guy's behind, I need to know that. If a guy's ahead, I need to know that on his learning, particularly the younger player. So that's the kind of stuff that I'm looking for. And you're not like a hardcore fantasy guy at this point, but you played fantasy for 20. 35, 30 years. So you know what's up. You know what to look for. So it's a really good combination. Yeah. That is why we do employ you as our NFL insider. And you make a good point, too. Like dynasty leagues are taken over. People are into it. And there's only so much information from the beat reporter. So you are very unique in that you can really alert us of these players. Like you mentioned, Darnel Mooney and Gabe Davis. So let's start in the AFC. And we'll start with the Buffalo Bill. and speaking of Gabe Davis, you've heard nothing but good things. Why this year, why do you think we should be excited about Gabe Davis this year? Well, they've cleared the way. They've cleared

their path to be a full-time starter, not to be a part-time player. And they didn't bring anyone to challenge him for the outside job opposite Diggs. It'll be the ex position. Diggs is their Z. Not that that, it doesn't really matter in terms of fantasy who the Z and the X is. But when I first start cover league. I always thought, oh, the ex-receivers got to be the number one receiver. Not true. It depends on the offense of the structure. Diggs is their Z. He's their number one receiver. That's not a question. Davis's, last year, they felt that they were going to go for, they felt they were ready to challenge for Super Bowl. They wanted to have a veteran like Emmanuel Sanders there instead of Davis as a starter opposite Diggs. Didn't work out. We love Sanders for

years. He's 35 years old. He's clearly at the end of the line there. Maybe he could, he could cobbled together one more year somewhere else, but they made this decision with Davis, John, when they drafted him. The base on the intel that they had from his college tape and his what's called functional football intelligence was incredibly high, that gave him, and I know he went in the fourth run. He didn't run well, which actually, it's funny. They had said that that actually would have helped, that helped him, Davis dropped to them.

I remember you telling me that someone there was glad he did. didn't run. Yes, yes, because they had a higher grade on him. And I don't know what their draft board looked like. For some reason, he dropped from the third to the fourth because he ran like a four, five, two at the combine. Then they, he didn't have a pro date because they shut it down because of COVID. So Davis is so smart. In fact, at one point, he was the only receiver on the roster to line up at every position X, Y, Z, and F. That tells you he's super smart. And he's eventually going to play a lot. And here we are year three. And we've waited. I said this on our show probably for your subscribers two years ago. I said it's not about now. Most dynasty leagues,

if you get anything about it out of your rookie as a receiver, great. It's about, in this case, years three, four, five, six, and seven. If you got him in a dynasty league, feel great about it because he's going to be playing with Josh Allen a long time. Yeah, no, actually, your original tip was he was going to replace John Brown, which you were basically just a year off of that. Oh, well, here's the thing. Yeah, yes. Yeah, well, That's what happened. And Sanders replaced Brown. They didn't want to give Davis the whole thing because the thing that John Brown could do,

Smokey Brown, though his knees, one of his knees has been a problem. He could flat out fly, like one of the fastest receivers in the league. And Davis can go deep. We know that. But that's, he's going to be in the intermediate and run after the catch game. That's probably what he's going to be as a profession. Zach Moss, not that we're caring about him, but, you know, what happened with him? and how does that relate at all to this backfield at all?

Because they seemingly took him to maybe balance it out a little bit. And then you have James Cook here. Have you heard anything about this backfield? Oh, yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, I kind of have pretty much a lockdown on their whole roster. Zach Moss was drafted to be their starter, to be their main back. Now, they didn't know in 2020 that they would be, they saw Allen's jump from year one to year two, which was nice.

But it was not as big as year two to three. But they still wanted to run the ball. Because he could grind it out. Moss is not a bad pass catcher for a guy. It's more of a powerback. You know, he's had some injuries. He just didn't take the job like they thought he would. And I told you a year ago, be careful where you rank them.

They're really down on him. And that turned out to be right. And I was Zach Moss guy. Like, I'll admit it. Based on the early reports I had as they really liked him, he just didn't take the job. It's sort of like Trey Sermann. They were handing the guy the job. and he didn't take it.

And he may have thought he had it. Who knows? I can't speak for Zach Moss. But the opportunity was his. He was going to be their lead back. He blew it. He had the toe injury. He kept getting hurt.

They moved on. They tried to make the trade for McCaffrey. They were never even had a real conversation because the Panther said he's not available. You know that they signed. They verbally agreed to McKissick deal with him. He backed out. So what does that tell you? They moved on from trying to run the ball lot.

We know that. They want to throw the ball lot. They want someone who could catch the football. in comes James Cook. Yeah, got him with 40 grabs. I think he might be a little overrated, but we shall say, I do have him with the 40 grabs. I just don't know how many carries the guy's going to get.

Here's what they love about him. This is what Singletary does not have. Cook's got some juice. He is more explosive. Singletary's a nice back. Coaches love him, front office, loves him, does everything he's asked. They call Motor.

He's a, he just, he takes coaching. They really like the kid, but he doesn't have any juice. He's decisive, downhill, a little bit of shorter air quickness, but is not explosive in any way, shape, or form like Cook is. Yeah. Cook's going to have a bigger role than you think. You got to give it time, though. Yeah. You got to let it evolve.

We have to be patient and fantasy. You can't worry, like I've kept telling myself for years, and you know me pretty well. I get impatient sometimes, and it bites me in the tuckas. Yeah. I think sometimes we got to understand this is a good. NFL move. This is going to help the bill offense. Don't know about fantasy, though, with James. I think if you're patient, though, later, it could be week four, week eight. He starts to have a definitive role. We know Singletary is the primary back. That's not in question. It just could Cook be their primary

third down back. Yes, at some point. It'll be a changeup for sure because he's explosive. Now, Duke Johnson's on the roster. So theoretically, Duke Johnson, if he makes it, could be the third down back to start the season. But trust me, when I say this, they drafted James Cook, eventually be that guy. You just have to be patient. Let's go to the Miami Dolphins and not a ton going on here. Obviously a big year for Tua. They've done a lot, but everyone else in the world has broken it down. I am still intrigued by Sony Michelle. I think he's going to be, you know, handling a pretty decent role here, underrated role, but anything jump out to you in terms

of your insider notes on Miami. Yeah, the only negative here when you talk about Michael I mean, Sony Michelle, is that they gave Edmunds starter money at running back. It stunned me when I saw it. I was like, are you serious? The guy's a change-up, little third down,

share the ball, he's not a lead-back. We told, you know, we'd said that a couple years ago. This is a mistake when they would go to him as lead-back. He's better coming in back with power back.

But, and you, look, here's the one thing. If Mike McDaniels running anything like Kyle Shanahan's offense, the scheme is, but the philosophy of running the ball first, you would think that they will run the ball with Edmonds a decent amount. And obviously, Michelle, because he's an inside grinder.

Yeah, look, Edmonds is making just over $6 million per season. He has to be the lead back. There's no debate there. You're not spanning $12 million over two years for him to be the backup. That's not happening. Yeah. I've got him with 170 touches. And I've got Michelle with $125.

Right. That could happen. That could happen. That's a good point where, okay, Edmonds is the first guy in. A, Michelle could be the closer if they get a lead and, you know, they have a good roster. So Michelle, you're right.

I agree with you with Michelle. He's kind of sneaky. Where's his ADP? It's still buried like 200 overall. Oh, actually, no, it's moving up 178 right now as of June 28th. A bargain. Yeah, that is a bargain. Yeah, I've been taking them in best ball left and right.

Not a ton going on here. By the way. Yeah, real quick. Sony, Michelle, he's signed a one-year deal just above the veteran minimum. It's for $1.75 million. So the contracts always tell you a story. There's something I'm going to write about. I'm going to try to write about for your website. But contracts almost always tell a story about how the team feels about a player.

Well, the contracts tell you, Edmonds by structure is the starter, the leadback. Michelle's going to be his backup. That's a good article. That's a good article for the preseason. Like, let's break down the top 25 most intriguing contracts, and you could basically spin it to like, this is what they're telling us. Right. So anyway, to move on here, but like you said,

it doesn't mean Michelle won't cut into it. He certainly will be because Evans is not a guy shown. He can handle a lot of volume. New England Patriots as we move along here. And again, insider notes here are extremely difficult. I personally will see about James White, but I'm not expecting anything from the two rookie running backs. Hell, James White himself did do crap his rookie year.

I am looking for Remandre maybe to carve out a little role in the passing game here with Brandon Bold and gone. I guess we'll see about that, but that's a thing. You got anything else on New England? No, I've been telling you, last year you were so bullshit in Ramandre. And I know we had on the radio, we love Andy Hart, but I said, I'm just telling you, my guy with the Patriots said, it's Damien Harris's job, and he's not losing it. And I kept, you know, I wouldn't back off of that.

I kept telling you, I know there's Buzz on Stevenson. I'm just telling you, this guy would know. He said, no, Harris is our leadback. We love him. He's a grinder. He pounds it. You know, they're going to run the ball. In fact, as much as I don't like it, because I'm a past game guy by analytics,

if you just based on the two tight ends, they're going to have to play a lot of 12 personnel, they have to. They can go 11 because they have like so many receivers. Yeah. Yeah. They got to make up. They have to account for Henry and it's John Smith's contract. It's just they have to play.

Belichick, as much as I respect him and I'm a huge fan, he made a terrible mistake with those contracts. Yeah, he did. They have to play. They have to play. That's just the way to do. There's a little bit of a panic move. They had all the cap room.

Yeah, finally, right. They just felt like they had so much ground to make up. It kind of worked. I mean, they were competitive. John was terrible, though. John was. Oh, John, it was awful. But Mac Jones was pretty damn good.

Kendon-Borna, kind of like that and Thornton. Agilor was okay. We knew that wasn't going to work out. We'll move on to the New York Jets. And we can even back up and give us the Cliff Notes version of what you hear about Zach Wilson because it's mostly good. Yeah, look, he had some issues with mechanics and he played too fast, I was told, last season.

And it backs up what CoSell said. Greg said, you know, about the letting the play, come to him and not trying to fire fastballs. But my understanding is he just play too fast, needs to settle down, let it flow. And this is typical of a rookie who's really not ready to go. And now they've really helped him with Garrett Wilson. We love Elijah Moore to be a breakout player. We're both kind of wearing the same hat on him. And the great thing about Moore is he's the only receiver they have on the roster that literally could line up anywhere you want. Oh yeah, I love him. And that's really important where Corey Davis, despite his size is really a Z. He's just not the most

physical guy despite his size. So they've got a good group. In fact, they love C.J. Usama, love him. But the guy they love as a movable guy is Tyler Cogniz could be in their move tight end. He is super athletic. He's perfect for this, this Michael Fleur, West Coast offense. Analytically, they thought he, whatever their analytic model is, he fit it really well. He hit, he hit a lot of the numbers. So the past target group is great. Oh, it's great. I want to give you an example of, I guess, the insight we can get from Mr. C. Now, it's still, it's still Yuzama leading the way. But two months ago, when Yuzama, I guess, in Conklin first came onto the roster,

Uzama was by far the guy that everyone was drafting. And that still is the case, but it's changing already. And that's a good example of the insider tip that, you know, maybe the beat reporters aren't dialed into that and people haven't caught on. But that's the thing. Uzama's going to be the boring guy. And if there's one guy for fantasy, it's going to be Conklin. Yes.

The question for you would be because they're going to share the role. What I'm interested to see is how much does Michael Floor now, if he asks Conflor now if he has Conflin Wilson? Because they're not paying both Conklin and Uzama a ton of money, but it's enough where they both have to play. But you just spent a first rounder of Garrett Wilson. Elijimor is a second runner, but they love. him, he's just done. Corey Davis is making a ton of money. So how do they balance between going

from 11 to 12 personnel per game? The great thing, and Brax of Bears, who I didn't even mention, who's a change-up receiver, also play a little running back. What a group they have. And the other thing that they're excited about is if Beckton could just stay healthy and play like 14 games between Verrett Tucker, Lake and Thompson, who they added. Connemar Governance got to live up to his contract. He had a pretty big one. but they feel like their offensive line is going to be pretty good. They've got good back, a good depth. This could be an offense that's kind of a sleeping giant,

but I would warn you, though, the one problem with the Jets is their schedule is very, very difficult. I do think Beckton is huge here in a huge key. If he can really show up in shape and he's on track and just put the left tackle job, just take it and put it on lockdown, play alongside, you know, Tomlinson. You got Veritaka on the right side now. He was on the left side, I guess.

And maybe he can help out little George Fant there on the right side. That could go a long way toward getting the quarterback comfortable. Real quick. I think right now, Fant's the leader for the left tackle. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. And Bechton may be playing right. So that's the one issue because they already said Fant is kind of like their guy right now for left tackle.

They need to see how Bechton shows up in shape. In fact, the head coach would not even, he wouldn't commit to that saying that Beckton wasn't good enough. shape yet in his last prep. Yeah, understood after last year. I personally think if they, if they had their way, Beckton would be in shape and dominating and playing left tackle. That's what he was. Oh, yeah, no doubt.

And fan was a great story. Right. He's like a dancing bear out there back then. And then the backfield, Brees Hall, do you think they already view him as a lead back? Or is that like the old competition? Yeah, you don't have to worry about. Again, it's what I always tell myself this. I don't have to tell your listeners.

It's all about September. It's not about August and depth charts. Don't worry about what you, like if the beat reporter say, oh, Hall is running second team, folks. Right. Right. It's always the end game for fantasy. I've learned dumb lessons over the years where I've made mistakes where I was buying

in, oh, this guy's ahead of him. Uh-oh. Folks, it's the end game. They drafted Breast Hall to be their guy. And he is, and I've told you this, he's the closest thing to Jonathan Taylor in terms of talent since Taylor's drafted. That's the way the league sees him. he's super giffin.

And the other thing is, if you're a Jets fan listening to us, almost their whole draft was the top player they had, near the top player. Like, Garrett Wilson, their top rated receiver. Preythole their top rated running back. Jermaine Johnson, their top rated pass rusher. Sauce Guard on the top rated corner and number one player for the draft. That's incredible. Yeah.

No, it's a hell of a hall. No doubt about it. And we're absolutely rooting for it because, again, I did tell Larry David back in 2021, that the Jets were on track and he, you know, he put a lot of stock in my thoughts. And I'm rooting for them now. Just for that fact alone here. We are listening to the Fantasy Points podcast, the Hanson's Hints episode with Mr. Adam Kaplan.

And by the way, if you're not already subscribed to FantasyPoint.com, you got to get in there, get all up in there. All kinds of great stuff going on this year. The Fantasy Points data team is assembled. Adam, it's going to be big time. How about that? own stats, sir. How about that? I'm blown away by what you guys are doing.

It's just the content. There's no fantasy set out there that's not a criticism of anyone else. It's what you have the advantage of, I've told people who've asked about you. I said, John is obviously brilliant. But what makes him better than everyone else is he started. What did you start, 96? 95. And you never rested on your laurels. You always have this vision of getting better every year. And you've also, you were smart enough to under, you weren't just a fantasy guy. Yes, that's what you do by trade. It's your business. But you try to learn the NFL. You assembled a great roster of sources. People you could bring in like Kosell and I and beat writers you trust that are

very good that you and I know personally. And you just, you get it. You get it. And it's, there are very few people in the fantasy business could cross over who know the NFL as well as you do. It's, I'm surprised. I'm kind of surprised, John. I've never told you that before. I'm kind of surprised. But I think what made you smart is you were willing, you, you're, you're, you're, one of the few fantasy guys that thought you didn't know or everything. You wanted to learn more? Oh, God, no. No, I'm not a numbers guy. That is the secret sauce. Yeah, 100%. I'm not a numbers guy.

What did I do? I bring in numbers guys, basically. Graham Barfield is really brilliant in terms of putting, putting, you know, putting away, throwing the garbage stats in the trash, basically, and focusing on what really matters. But yeah, everybody who's on fantasy points

loves fantasy points. I mean, that's clear. AFC North, Mr. C, and not a ton going on here. I guess we'll find out when we're into July on J.K. Dobbins and Gus Edwards. Those two guys are, we don't have enough information, I don't think.

I talked to my Ravens guy a week ago who gave me an update on their serial position, you know, upset Bateman. But, yeah, he, I don't want to, I'm not trying to break any news here. It didn't sound like they'd be on the field very early on. Yeah. Training can.

I'm sure things could change over the next month, but Tyler Beatty is a guy, I'm always looking for something. Oh, yeah. I'm always looking for some guy that's not on the radar that if certain, like, well, no one would have guessed Cordell Patterson because he's been in league 10 years and he never did anything. But someone, if everything breaks right, if this guy's not ready, this guy's not ready. And oh, wow, look, look who he's playing like, like James Robinson would have been a great one. I wish it would have been.

Miles Gaskin as well. Oh, that's the ultimate. Oh, my God. A couple years ago, exactly. Right. Someone was third or fourth in the depth chart. if certain things work out. This is the ultimate guy this year. Tyler Beatty.

Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, he is a small kid, but he is tough as hell, and he could catch it. Yeah. So he would be that guy. Justice Hill, man, I've not heard a thing about him in the three years. He's been in the league. It's a year four for him. Can you believe it?

Yeah. No, I know. I know. It's incredible. I mean, hey, good for him. He's collected a check. But unfortunately, the guy's got like, I don't know, 20 touches. So what did you hear about the receiving group?

We know about Bateman. Is it committee? I know my guy James Prochet is slow as hell, but that guy does catch everything. Yeah, I put a nugget out, which made a ton of news with Ravens fans that the Ravens were talking Eagles about Jaylon Rager during the draft during the draft. That would be good. I don't know why they didn't want to do it, but my understanding was that the Ravens backed off. There was never any offer or anything.

They just talked to the Eagles. And this is what happens during the draft. Because remember, the Ravens were shopping Chuck Clark because they drafted Kyle Hamilton. Oh, yeah. And they also signed Marcus Wins for $14 million a year, so made Chuck Clark expendable. But nevertheless, so my understanding is they're just having a rotation, opposite baitment. This is my early feeling. It's going to be, now this is if they don't make a trade for somebody. We're signed a veteran. You would have to think by week one they're going to add that they can't think that this is going to work with what they have. Devin Duvernay, right? Yeah. If you recall heading into his final year of Texas, he played strictly on the outside.

he moved inside his final year Texas he went from being a six-round pick I was told to a third because he was dominant in playing slot he's just not an outside he's just not outside receiver James Porchay certainly is not an outside receiver yeah so they're working in

Tyler Wallace and Duverne and then you got all these they have six undrafted from this year a couple from previous years they have to do something like come on Ravens you got oh I think maybe this really signifies a regression, if you will, reverting to previous form where all tight ends, all middle of the field,

run, run, run. They are, I feel like turning back the clock to like 2019. It's unbelievable. Speaking of that, so behind Edwards, you got Nick Boyle, one of the best blocking tight ends in the NFL. Okay. But then they drafted two of the best tight ends for this draft. And they got their guys in Kohler and Isaiah likely who's more of a flex tight end. Oh, and they also have Josh Alibur.

Josh Oliver formerly, they got to trade. So you're right. Look, it's obviously going to be, they should lead the NFL and 12 personnel. Cleveland would have, but now they've got Watson. Well, we'll see it with Watson how many games he plays this season, if at all. This all might help Lamar, by the way. Sure. I mean, you could simplify it, but I could tell you that their plan, the pandemic year,

had they not had the pandemic was they were going to give him more volume in the past game. That was their goal. They thought he was getting it. Then you have the pandemic, no offseason last year with the illnesses. Yeah. The weird stuff was going on. So we'll see. But I would agree you've got two past targets.

Andrews and Bateman, who's one of my breakout players this year. Oh, God, yeah. Cincinnati Bengals. And it looks like they, well, they didn't do much in the backfield here behind Joe Mix. And it looks like Chris Evans, the second year man out of Michigan may challenge Samaji Piron for the third down job. But otherwise, bringing in. Hayden Hurst, replacing Uzama with Hurst, might have him a little more juice,

but otherwise, there's not a lot going on here other than the fact that the O-Line has been seriously reinforced, so it's go time. Yeah, the added a minimum of three new starters with Ted Carris, Alex Kappa, and Collins. Collins is that Collins could play right, he's play left, but he's more of a right tackle guard. So he'll play right tackle for them.

Their depth is very questionable, though. They can't afford an injury, but they've upgraded their starting unit. Yeah, they're going to be better. Look, you got, Burrow got sacked 20 times during the playoffs. That's inexcusable. Like, that has to be a playoff record. Oh, yeah. When I saw that stat out there, I'm like, this can't be right.

I didn't check it, but I saw the stat out there. I was like, no wonder. Okay, well, good job by Duke Tobin, who's their quasi-GM. So let's see what happens here going forward. But I'm so bullish on Burrow, even more than that. than I normally would be because he can now actually step into most of his throws because they should be able to block it. Oh, yeah. No, no doubt. Cleveland Browns, well, a lot going on here. And, you know, it does seem like Deshaun Watson is screwed for this year. It feels like that's

coming down. I'm a 12 gamer or, you know, full season, I mean. It could, well, that's what the NFL wants. I could tell that as a fact. That's what they want. It's all what the appointed judge the retired federal judge, Sue Robinson wants, based on the evidence, based on the information. We'll see. No one has any, I could have told you a year ago that the NFL wanted a significant suspension, no matter what information was out there. I could tell you as a fact, that's where they've always wanted it. But the problem is with this process, which changed in 2020, they brought an independent person to Robinson. But the craziness of this is the NFLPA, I don't know why they agree to this. Do you know who the hearing officer is?

Who? The appeals officer is? Who? Goodell. Oh, right. Because he's no longer handing down the actual punishment. No, she'll make the recommendation. Yeah.

So if the NFL wants to appeal, it goes to Goodell. Of course he's going to want a year, at least a year. And now the NFL PA with the great Jeffrey Kessler, he's brilliant, who's won a lot of cases against the Eagles every year, against the NFL over the years. We'll see what his argument is. But all the thing's kind of fascinating. But it's, it's, I feel bad for Browns fans because, you know, talking to the Browns, they, they feel really good about their roster. But if you don't have, if you don't have Watson for half the season or full season, you're not going anywhere.

Yeah, it's sad. And Jacobi Berset, we like him. He's scrappy. Nice guy. Doesn't really move the needle. He's very slow, very deliberate. They'll run the rock. Oh, ton.

Yeah. Now, they're another team with Anjoku's contract and a guy Harrison Bryant. They're going to be a lot of 12. They'll be top five and 12. I don't know if they'll leave it. But the nugget that I got out a couple weeks ago, which I thought was signed kind of interesting. I kind of thought this in the back of my mind,

but I didn't know. They're going to line up Cooper a lot inside. It won't be all the time inside. But he is, because that's where Bell's going to play a lot, but Bell won't be a starter. Just my sense is it would be Cooper and DPJ, who's their quasi deep threat because he, you know, he gets, he can run for.

Yeah, straight lineish. Right. but he gets open. Jakeem Grant will be a change-up. And then Schwartz, they tried him inside in practice last year. They thought he could be a vertical slot. He might do some of that stuff. It'll probably line up more outside, but he's very raw.

So if the season started today, my early sense would be Cooper and DPJ. And then when they go 11, Bell's a slot. Or they could rotate Cooper inside. They're just, they think Cooper. Cooper's dynamic inside. So we'll... Yeah, it's always been. I know.

And I'll be at their training camp, I think, for a couple days. If the Sean Watson thing never happened and Baker was on the team as a starter, I would be all about Baker and Cooper because I think that's a great connection right there. You would think. Very structured, unlike the OBJ freelancing out there stuff. Anything going on in the backfield? Because Kareem Haunt, I personally think is a declining player. They drafted Jerome Ford, re-signed the Ernest Johnson.

I guess they'll keep all four. But anything going on with Kareem Hunt, contract-wise, it could... Well, he wants it... Yeah, he wants it extended. He's on the final year of his deal. They paid him as $1 million roster bonus, which is fully guaranteed anyway, it's signing in March. They could look, they could save a lot of money out of the cap if they wound up,

trading them or cutting them. that's going to be something, when I say between four to five million that could save if they, if they wound up trading by week one. The interesting thing is that with De Ernest Johnson, that they wanted him back despite bringing back Hunt. And then plus, as you said, Jerome Ford, by the way, I don't know if I told you this. There were teams that had third round grades home. There were a lot of teams that really liked him. So would it surprise me if they moved Hunt by, you know, the start of week one?

No. It would not. Yeah. So that's something to keep an eye on. I saw some people out there talking about how he's of value this year, Kareem Hunt. It could be. I'd lean the other way going off the board there at RB 33. I only have him at 38 for what it's worth.

And then we move on to the Pittsburgh Steelers. It does seem like the closer we get to camp, the more Trubisky is probably a favorite, but we'll see. Yeah, he definitely. No, here's the deal. He is the clear favorite going in, okay? There's no doubt. Here's the difference between both of them. Pickett is a better processor of information.

He just, he played in a pro offense. Trabitsky's got a strong arm. They're both athletes. They both have good size. But I'm not rolling out Pickett winning it. And, you know, so let me ask you this for fantasy, for the past target group, for Johnson, Claypole, Pickens, and our guy, Calvin Austin, who would you rather be the quarterback?

pick it. I think he's more consistent. You know, he can make plays three levels of the field. He's got better touch timing and anticipation. That's why they drafted him. Yeah, he was the most pro-ready quarterback for this draft by far, which is why he was the only first rounder at quarterback. So, yeah, that's why I'm not ruling it out. I'm just not, you know, talking the bills about Tribisky, I'll tell you this.

Apparently, he was phenomenal last year. He, you know, he just. he had to get away from the Chicago stuff, all the negativity. He practiced free. I know he was going against the second team, but apparently he looked exceptional. So we'll see. I mean, if Trubisky does win the job, and it's definitely an open competition. And I know there be a beat reporter say Trubisky is a lock.

I don't see it that way. In fact, I definitely don't see it that way, knowing what I know about both quarterbacks. But let's just see if Trubisky could ever be consistent. Yeah. Well, the bottom line is, I think the quarterback. situation is probably going to improve compared to last year with Big Ben. Oh, because they'll throw, even though Pickett doesn't have a strong arm, the confidence that Matt Canada will have to throw the ball, at least it to the intermediate

level, and if Trubisky is the quarterback to the deeper level, you've got Claypools, a big guy could run, pickets could flat out run. Deonti Johnson, we forget, like his run after the catchability, he can run. It's just because of what you're playing with, with Rosseberger was a problem. Now you've got Calvin Austin who might be the most explosive receiver. for his past draft, but he's just small? Yeah, they'll be, they'll open it, they'll open it up a bit. Every, uh, beat reporter I talk with, uh, for the Steelers, they, they, they all hate,

uh, Claypole, by the way. Yeah, well, he's, he needs to grow up, man. Yeah. Well, just, just on the field, too, he does a lot of like, I don't know, weird things. Well, that Minnesota game was the worst. When he got benched, did he get benched overtime? Yeah, I'm not, I can't recall exactly. He got benching that game, and it was bizarre because I remember having him on one of my teams.

I was like, why is he on the sideline? Did he? I know he did something dumb. And then Tomlin admitted it was for discipline. Like, are you trying to win a game, which is important? I get it. Tomlin had to set the example. You know, it's too bad.

I interviewed George Pickens. He is an interesting guy himself, but I didn't get a bad vibe. He's a little all over the place. Ritchardy with him was the, it's why he. See, here's the thing. The ACL was fine. He played late. He got some games in.

The reason why I drafted out of the first run had nothing to do with injury. It was for maturity. Teams knew that there were some maturity stuff with him. I'll say this, though, and I know Claypool right now looks disappointing. We know that they're former GM, Kevin Colbert,'s one of the best in NFL history drafting receivers. Yeah. And it was his call.

So if he wanted Pickens, I'm all in. Yeah, me too. And our guy Greg Kosell love Pickens. I was very high on him. You and I both were in Mobile watching Calvin Austin get open on every damn route. He killed it. Yeah, he killed it.

Crushed it. So we are high on him as well. And not much going on in the back field. They're not going to give the ball to anyone of note here behind Anaghi. Maybe they're going to give McFarlane who's been a disappointment for the first two seasons. Oh, yeah, in Canada. I remember talking about Canada last summer. I forgot that he coached him for one year at Wisconsin.

Maryland. I mean, Maryland, I'm sorry, Maryland. So now he went up. I think he, yeah, he went on the COVID list last season. And yeah, he was also in on injured reserve. He hadn't done anything, but he's explosive. Maybe I wouldn't draft him, but Snell is the de facto handcuff. But this is one where, I mean, I don't know how you feel about it. I'm not big on drafting handcuffs. It's all situational depending on the team. There's no handcuff here. What's that? I mean, there's no real handcuff. No, well, Bessna would be the first guy in, but we know who he is. He's an inside grinder, no juice at all. None. Doesn't have the versatility of Harris who's got better vision.

So I would not draft anyone other than Harris in the backfield. AFC South in Houston, we are waiting on John Mechie. So far, so good. Everything I talked with him way back in February, a guy was majorly confident in his recovery, and we're on track there. We'll see Brandon Cook's is the one. Him and Nico Collins kind of battling out here. Pretty good old line.

The real thing here is obviously the backfield. And can the rookie Damien Pierce climb to the top of the depth chart? Is he good enough to be an RB1? I say yes, but I know he's not a stud. Nothing's guaranteed. Yeah. So just understand Rex Burkhead is a guy that, you know, if you look at his age, you know he can't handle a lot of volume.

I'm like he, you know, he's 32 years old, which he turns next week. So you can't give him a lot of Vime. He's a specific type of back. And he's obviously for fantasy, he's banding because you never know when he's going to go off. But Marlon Mack had a good offseason. He looks to be back fully from the Achilles. Neither those guys are lead backs. Roy Freeman certainly is not a lead back.

Ogunbawe is more of a full back slash running back. Absolutely Pierce could be their starter week one. In fact, he might be to take over by mid-Mid August. who knows. But the only guy that I want on that backfield will be Pierce because there's a wonderful opportunity there for him to be the guy. Yeah, no doubt. And we'll see.

We'll get the information we need to shape the opinions, you know, closer to the season, get it right. But yeah, that's absolutely Arlene. Certainly never been a big Marlon Mac guy. And still haven't really, well, I guess Deonté Foreman, but still haven't seen the guy coming off an Achilles who has a big season carrying the rock. We'll see about KMakers this year as well. Indy Colts, pretty good vibes with Matt Ryan stabilizing things at quarterback.

And we do like Alex Pierce. Not a ton going on here. We do like Naheem Hines to bounce back as PPR killer Carson Wentz is off the roster. Not a lot here. Adam, what do you hear? It's funny when we were doing our show last summer and I said, folks, I hate to break this to you if you don't follow Carson Wentz. He is, he hates checking down. He won't do it.

I just know enough about the player like he just will not do it. Yeah. And the word I heard is they had stuff designed for Heinz. He just get the football. And then you heard Chris Ballard, the GM say he's got to get the football more. They're paying them $6 million a year. I mean, the guy was a juggernaut. He was like the RB 18 in 2020.

I don't, listen, that's a, that's embarrassing. Like you have a kid who's explosive like this. I'm a huge fan of his. making over $6 million a year and you can't get this guy the football. And part of it's, look, Frank Reg's got to do a better job. You and I talked about that early last season. Like he wasn't getting terribly to ball enough. And, you know, I know they've got some issues in their offensive line.

They don't have a left tackle right now. They're hoping Raymond will be ready, the third rounder who's a project. Matt Pryor formulated the Eagles, who's a good backup, but he's not a starter, though they're paying $5 million. And right guard, probably with Danny Pinner, who they like. but I like Heinz. Because Matt Ryan will check it down. As a standalone player, as a non-handcuffer Taylor, this is a guy that I want because Frank Wright,

and I know this, that they've talked about this internally, where they have to get him the football. And how about what Frank Reich said? He said something about, I don't play fantasy. There's something like, if you play fantasy football, you're going to one-night Hume Hines or something like that. I was shocked that he said that. Well, that's all because he sees Matt Ryan, like, oh, wow.

He's got the checkdown, right? Big departure from Mr. Wentz, the PPR killer. Yes. Jaguars. One thing. Yeah. Matt Ryan is coachable where if he'll run it the way it's dialed up plus, if Heinz is the outlet guy, Matt Ryan will check it down.

Carson Wentz always wants to make the big play. Matt Ryan in general in Atlanta, and I know this from doing a radio show with Roddy White back in the day. Like, huge part of the offense was the checkdown. And, you know, that's why these guys catched a ball in Atlanta, like Devante Freeman back in the day. Jacksonville Jaguars.

And E.T.N. You've been hearing basically for two months good stuff on Travis E.T.N. Actually, back at the combine, remember I noticed like one of the first nuggets I got, that ETS was running in February and felt good and he'd be ready for training camp. Hell, he was really good in the OTAs.

So, no, he's their lead back. They don't know. they're going to get out of Robinson, unfortunately. I mean, he's, you know, he's been running straight ahead. You know, as you know, he got hurt very late in December. So it'll be touch and go for the regular season. I don't know that he'll definitely be ready. But even no matter what, whenever he's ready to actually get on the field, doesn't mean he'll be effective. I love E.T.N. as a second back. He's so explosive. The former staff was going to do it. Unfortunately, he never played for them because he got hurt. The new staff has just talking to some people there, they're

want to do the same thing is these going to be flexed out a lot as a receiver. This is not a, I'll say this much also as we transfer a little bit to their past target group. The past target group is certainly upgraded. It's not great, but it's fairly deep. I mean, it's very deep, actually. I mean, if we assume that Levisca Chanel is going to continue to, or not LaVisca Chanel, LeQuan Treadwell is going to continue to surprise us. Chanel apparently is, you know, I guess he's dropped some weight. He's showing well this summer.

we'll see about that one. I've never been a Chanel guy, but I feel like they have enough to get it done. And Doug Peterson, look, I'm not a Doug Peterson guy, but the guy gets it done more often than not. The offenses are productive. They throw it a lot. And in that sense, it's kind of good for ETN.

I see ETN being a Doug Peterson type of running back. Oh, yeah, because he likes his back to get the football in the past game. When he has that guy, you know, when he has someone who could really catch it. Sanders did a great job in his first year. And then that, for whatever reason, he didn't get the ball much in the past game after that. But, you know, I would agree with your assessment. Plus, they got two flex tight ends at Ingram and Arnold. Manhearts will be their Y tight end. They're in the kid, the kid, the kid, who didn't really do much last season was the fifth round of Ohio State. The only issue is at center where Linda retired. So that, that does worry me a little bit. But the Fortner kid, I know CoSell, I think, said he liked them. So hopefully. Yeah, the rookie. There are a couple of rookies back there. We may need to lean on a rookie there at center. It could be a little bit of an issue. Well, speaking of issues here,

Tennessee, just a buzzkill when they trade away AJ Brown. It just felt like that kind of took the wind out of their sales, you know, still recovering from that devastating playoff loss. And then Derek Henry, a year older, the hits, I mean, you talk to any running back who played in the NFL, and you ask him about talk about the hits and the pounding that Derek Henry has taken.

They'll all probably voice a concern. I know he's not really old, but you just add it all up. The old line has taken shots. I am not feeling it at all. What do you have on the Titans? I don't like anyone, honestly. The only guy I've liked was Austin Hooper for the last two months.

Yeah, my issue would be Henry is 28 in two weeks, so he's 28 by NFL standards. So the way that the league looks at it is, whatever your age is to start week one. Well, he's 28 in NFL years. He's got the plate in the foot from the broken foot. You wonder at 28 years old, is this the beginning of the end? This is the first major injury.

You worry about the accumulation of carries. And I know he has this unique running style where he doesn't take as much contact as maybe some other backs, but he's still running back, a lot of volume that does worry me. Haskins will wind up in the end by September being the two. They drafted him to be that guy. He's physical as hell. He fits the style of run game they want. Hilliard to change up. He's great in that role. So they're good there. The problem is,

you know, right tackles a little bit of a concern. Reduns will probably be that guy. Luan's back. He's, he may not be the same player from a form standpoint that he once was, but good player. The left guard spots got to kind of settle in there. Nate Davis is okay at right guard, and Ben Jones is a solid center. But the big issue for them is the receiver Court is, it's called like it is. It's one of the worst in the NFL. It's just, I don't know what to expect. I know Woods is doing great.

He'll be on field first day of training camp. But Berks was not ready. I know he's got the asthma that's concerning. Yeah, some conditioning problems. Yeah. Did very little. Phillips is a slot. That's great.

They need one, but they don't have no depth. It's just not good. Make sure you listen to the Tennessee Titan franchise focus podcast here, by the way. We had our guy, Joe Dolan, talk about all these things with the great Tehran Davenport of ESPN, who I talked to myself a couple of weeks ago.

And, you know, our guy Hooper and Tannehill quickly developing a rapport. So, yeah, I've been on this for two months. Hooper's catching 60 balls this year, basically out of necessity. Yeah, they need so. And they were, so talking to people there,

are they really like Hooper? Because the thing about Hooper, which the Falcons didn't know when they drafted him because he was really only past countries he could block you learn how to position block well it's kind of like when bret selk was drafted by the eagles he just couldn't block anybody and then once he learned how to do it with proper technique he became one of the better blocking tight-ins of the NFL just because he knew how to position himself he uses his hands hooper has done that he's made a lot of money swaying will be their main you see swain as i'm told will be their

wide tight-in again and hooper uh will be their move tight-end now for the most part when they go too tight end. So they got the kid Oconquo. Chiggy. Getting Chiggy with it. Yeah. Who's a fourth rounder who could play out of Maryland. He's like a John H. Smith. Yes. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's an F tight end.

So I'll have some juice for the subscribers. Uh, one of, uh, probably by a little, either right before training camp or, or early in training camp on, I got a couple things I'm working on to find out what the, what the offensive structure is going to look like. Other than giving it to Henry a lot, I want to see how it's going to change with Woods and and so forth. Listening to the Fantasy Points podcast feed here, the Hanson's hints segment here.

I am John Hansen. Adam Kaplan, though, NFL insider for the website and other outlets here, giving the hints here as we go to the AFC West and our guy Javante. No big whoop here, no big news. Melvin Back. We all know this. Not a ton going on here. A lot of weapons. We'll see how they all feel.

fit in and training camp. What do you have on Denver? So, this is just my sense. It'll be a touch share of 70, 30, Williams to Gordon. Look, they drafted Gordon. The GM drafted him. George Payton, this is his guy. Giovante. They draft Giovante.

Yeah. When a guy, when a running back for the most part is drafting to the second round, he's almost like a first round pick. That's the league, the league does not believe in drafting for the most part, drafting running backs in the first round. They'll do it. occasionally, but for the most part now, the second round is almost like the first round. That's the way GM see it. This is their guy.

I don't worry about Melvin Gordon. He'll be a great handcuff, certainly. He stole something left. It surprised us last season. Did a good job. But it's time to move to Giovante Williams. It's Albert O. Alberto will be their starter.

They'll figure it out who will be the backup. Dulcich is a flex tight end, so we'll see if he can block at this level. The receiver course is fantastic. The line's good. Hamler's back from his ACL. We'll see how far back, you know, how well he runs in training camp. The only thing that I, the thing that they really like is, though, that all, people want to peg Judy for the slot and that's fine.

But they feel like he could play anywhere. And they, and they, though the two Sutton and Patrick are big receivers, they think there's some more flexibility to this offense than probably most people think. they just have to get there now with Hamlerback as their shot play guy. And now that they have a quarterback. So you couldn't do a lot of this stuff that I'm talking about because you had Drew Lack as a quarterback. Now you have someone to actually throw the ball accurately. And plus, they're going to take shot plays.

That is coming. Oh, yeah. I don't love anyone, though. I mean, we've got four good receivers, two good tight ends. Yeah. A couple of running backs who can catch the ball. Yeah, it's a great group. It really is a great.

Great group. Overall, great. New quarterback. I'm kind of going Cortland Sutton as the guy, but I hear you. Jerry Judy is not limited to the slot. Yeah. Sutton would be my main guy. Yeah. And he's, I'm told he's all the way back.

From the major knee injury, if you really studied his tape, you would know that he wasn't quite there. He was close. Yeah. We also know he has the best chance to cozy up to Russell with all like the religious stuff, basically, like Tyler Lockett did in Seattle. I'm dead serious there, actually. that seems that's an angle uh that that that is an angle uh kansas city

offense changing offense changing let's start there i think well what do you what do you mean by that i think that they will be a little bit more short to intermediate yeah maybe not as much relying on big plays and maybe even run the ball a little bit more and spread the ball around a little bit more yeah read is read is not a run game proponent he just he's not uh analytically he he he uh the The thing about Andy Reid is interesting. He already believed in the past game coming in from Green Bay to Philly in 1999. And then once he saw how analytical Philly was, this is a great marriage. He's still the same guy.

He wants to throw it a lot more than they run it, particularly in the first half. Analytically, that's what he looks at. But the problem is, without Hill, you're right. I mean, I just don't see him take as many shot plays. I know MVS could run for his size, no question. Juju was a shot. He was a run after the catch. He had a high yards per catch three years ago, but it's been different.

Rossburg had a lot to do with that. Plus he's got this knee you got to watch out for. Yeah. Why are people still taking him at wide receiver 30? I mean, we had his ass buried last year and buried yet again. It's because all those vacated past targets, people have to go to him. Not really. You have to look at MVS, 10 million a year.

talking to the Chiefs, I'm telling you, they think he could be way better than he was. And I laughed because he was playing with Aaron Rogers, but I know what they meant. It just felt that he should have gotten the ball more. They think he'll get the ball more here. And he didn't drop a pass last year. I know he didn't get a lot of past targets, but every pass that thrown him he caught or was catchable he caught. Fifty catches would be a huge season, I feel like. What's that?

Fifty catches for him would be a big year. Well, I know you like to put in how many games they miss. I'm going to give him, let's say he plays 15 games. Let's say he gets three and a half captures per game on average, 52 and a half. Yeah, I mean, I don't know that he'll average four a game because I don't, he doesn't command the ball from a possessional standpoint. It's just not that type of guy. Yeah. Where you Jew is, you can throw him the ball 10 times because he'll catch it.

He'll get you a third down play. He's reliable. But boy, the contract he got was so under value. He only is getting $4 million a year or $4 million. it's up to 10 million, but he's only getting 4 million this season. There you go. They told us a little bit about what they think of Juju. Yeah, yeah, and so did the other teams because he couldn't get the offer that he's looking for.

No, Skymore's our guy. Skymore, I would have to say, other than Gabriel Davis in the three years, last three years, I cannot remember a receiver that more receivers coaches were high on than this guy. They, universe, like, I could have probably found if I talked to 10 receivers coaches, maybe one or two didn't see an eye on Gabe Davis as the other. other eight did, they're all in on Skymore. Like everyone, NFL people, coaches, executives, love this kid. And it's the attitude, it's the willingness to go over the middle, it's a willingness to

fight through contact, which is a major, major thing for coaches. He's going to have an opportunity to take the job here. I don't care what it's been reported. I absolutely can tell you more could take its starting job opposite MBS. Oh, yeah. We love one of the best interviews we've ever done, by the way. and when I watched it gearing up for the interview on Sirius XM, I watched a lot of his tape and highlights.

And man, the thing that stood out to me was those huge hands going up down those jump balls. And he was all about that. And then the 10-yard split, which is outstanding, which I think Andy's going to take advantage of that. This guy can get off the line clean.

So I think he could be a volume guy. Yeah, the thing about Moore, which is incredible, okay? The guy is not very tall. A 5-9 and 5-8. his hands, not only they, if they're not the biggest for the draft, 10 and a quarter, which is monsters. They were the biggest. Right.

Kenny Pickett has eight and a half. I mean, that's crazy. Okay. It is important. I'm going to tell you why. It's important to have big hands. Now it's it for catching the football. If someone's trying to grab you, you could grab because you've got an extra inch and a half,

you could grab them too because your arms are, your fingers are longer. It's important. And the number one criteria for this kid in terms of why coaches love him, his ability to fight for contact was, I believe, the best by tape study. You can't analytically, there's no grade on this. It's just what the tape showed. By far the best playing through contact, incredible. Tyree Kiel was really good at that, too.

And it's a little different way. But the sky's stronger, right. Sky Moore is incredibly strong. And, yeah, when we interviewed him, you couldn't. I know that he's not an elite receiver where you have to, like an NFL team says, we got to take him in the first round. But if you just look at not real tall, played it at school that's not, doesn't have a great football program at Western Michigan, he still went in the second round.

That's pretty important. Very important. You know, our guy Greg Jennings went there too. I mean, they've produced some star players here. Anything going on in the backfield? No. I think Ronald Jones stinks. Well, he's the, look, the way they're going to do this is C.H.

is the lead. Jones is his backup. McKinnon's the third. Gour will try to make the team on special teams and see if he dresses. But it's those three. Now, the Kippecchio is really explosive. The South Rana of Ruckers. Yeah. They want juice. Clyde O'Ollar, the funny thing is,

you know, I know that, I know they thought he was sort of like Brian Westbrook, but Brian Westbrook. It was so much of explosive than C.E.H. Clyde Edwardsillers is more darting. BWB was, dude, had juice. man, major. And more natural play strength. Oh, and so explosive. People forget. I mean, the knee problems kept him out of the Hall of Fame. But Brian Westbrook, in his day,

was really the best fantasy backs, too. But I still, this year, I'm in on CEH. If he's ever going to do it, it's got to be this year. Line blocks a little bit better for the run. And again, we'll see if McKinnick can make it through a whole season. But Ronald Jones in his stone hands, bodes well. I mean, it bodes well for CEH to catch 50 balls. Yeah, just move my mic, if you think I'm a little louder. Sometimes the Yeti mic doesn't always pick up my voice like it should. So anyway, yeah, Ronald Jones is just, he's a, the only thing he does really well is he's got very good long speed, but running backs, you want short air quick. There's some burst.

He's just, he's just okay. McKinnon's still hanging in there. Yeah, yes. Moving on to the the Raiders. I saw something with Kenyon Drake recently. Like the Raiders must be hating the fact that he's even on the roster because this regime didn't pay him. No, they did it to the last one, unfortunately, did not do a very good contract. No, I mean, he's, he should be on the roster. He's on the final year over his three-year deal. What they did is to save some cap space, they took, he had this fully guaranteed roster bonus, and they took that bonus and converted to a signing bonus just to spread out the cap hit.

So they saved about $3.5 million under the cap. He's going to be, he most likely, no matter how bad he might be, he probably might be that you ask me, let me ask you this question. I think he's the one of the most overrated fantasy backs in the history of this. So overrated.

That year where everybody was. Yeah. He is. And we've always kind of have a little bit of a love-hate relationship with the guy from day one. Like he lets us down. What's that? Hate the Drake, love the Drake. Yeah, we more often than not do, in fact, hate the Drake.

And then Zemir White, talk about Dynasty. That's a guy to get now. He could literally be their opening day starter next year. Yeah, because Bolton's only a special team player and a little bit occasionally used. Amir Abdullah is a guy he can't use very much. He's small. He's also older now. Jacobs didn't pick up a fifth year option and Drake's on the final year's deal.

There's a very realistic possibility. Both won't be back next year. I can certainly see that. They didn't draft him. Josh Jacobs has not been a player that I think a lot of us thought he would be. You saw flashes of it. He's also been hurt a lot. I would, Zemir White, the only problem with Zemir White is, and I'm a huge fan.

I love his running style. That's the problem, though. He runs like Chris Carson. incredibly, incredibly physical. And he's had two major knee injuries. I don't know that he'll have the reason why he dropped to the fourth, despite a lot of positivity. He's got a major knee history.

Probably not going to have a long career. Right, right. Might have a two, three year window there where he's getting it done. And then we all know what's gone on here with all the other changes. I am very high on Derek Carr, not so much on Darren Waller. I think we can move on. We know that Devante Adams is good. And so is Hunter Renfro.

and we'll see what kind of shape Waller is in. The Chargers. And how about our guy, Josh Palmer, playing over Jalen Gaiton in the OTAs? I thought that was a nice little nugget.

That should happen. He's a better football player. That's not a surprise. I don't agree with your assessment on our show last week where you felt that Palmer had some value. He needs help. Yeah.

Now he fits our, He need, like there should be, we should do a co-article together. He needs help dot, dot, to be a player this season. Palmer, you've seen it when he, when, uh, Keenan Allen was on the COVID list. Mike Williams, they had this crazy COVID breakout, uh, the failed test, the, the positive test. So, you saw Palmer, man. As the other GM told me, he, he may not be fast, but he gets up on you very quickly. So that was a great way to express it.

Yeah, place to be. What's that? Play speed, pretty good. Better, right. Better than it's time speed, which is somewhere around four or five. But he's a very good football player. He really is. But they're not, they don't go three wide a lot.

And it's a Williams at the Keenan Allen show, unfortunately. So unless someone gets hurt, he's just not going to be a factor. Yeah, it's fair. I just like the player. I do. I'm a cheap. And I'll take a shot at that point. And yeah, I guess.

More for Dynasty. Like, Keenan Allen is probably going to be a hall of favor for something. day and he's not slowing down at all but he's i mean he is sturdy boy i thought he's old than that i don't know about you but yeah i don't know how long you keep guys in dynasty i know you can depending what your rules are i'm going to keep josh palmer like because this kid's really good right he's another guy that receivers coaches like i know co-sele liked him because he could run away from everybody despite his time speed i'm just going to hang in there for like three or four years with this guy and just when eventually he's going to start you know

That's a good point, and it is a good question about Keenan. Is this the time to get out on Keenan? It could absolutely be. I would lean to guess on that. Well, receivers will tell you around 32, they lose their legs. But he doesn't, he's just about getting open in a short area. I mean, he is so ridiculously, he's like an artist out there with the route running and craftiness. Exactly. I don't know, man. He's just, he won't slough. In fact, that's true. We try to trade him in our dynasty league.

I don't know why I said, I should have taken him just because he's, I'm so dynasty, like in our league, I just want all younger players. I'm like, you gotta make exceptions sometimes, don't you? I guess. You do.

Oh, you do. Isaiah Spiller. Do you think people are sleeping on him a little bit? Echler. He's a grinder, this guy. He is a grinder. I think he's a little bit better than that, though, don't you think?

Look, he's, if you watch him play, he's a specific style. His style is grinding it out. his long runs if you watch his long runs you go man it took it forever to get there uh you got Josh Kelly's been an unachiever for the most part who the kid that went to Northwestern they did not resign who wasn't he that who's the other kid they had Justin Jackson he looked didn't he did no but they didn't resign him yeah I don't understand that they want they want

they want more of a volume type RB2 here to handle the tough thumper stuff sure sure no I I understand that. Yeah, so the great thing is they got Zion Johnson in there now from Boston College. It's a good pick. So he'll help their offensive line. Their defense, if you're playing in IDP leagues or whatever. So what I'm told is that Staley wanted to reshape their defense. Yes, they're running a 34, but he wanted bigger, more athletic players.

So Kaiser White, who is one of their starting inside linebackers, they don't want him back because he's too small. They want to get a little bigger physically. they want their linebacker, their outside linebackers bigger. So Kiela O'Mack, who he coached for one year, with Chicago, he's there. This defense could be, they were terrible last year. For the most part, they were really underachieved,

but now he's got Kyle Van Nuoy as a stand-up linebacker who's got good size. So you know what? This defense could be sneaky for fantasy. Probably people aren't drafting because they were bad last year, but you know what? They could be sneaky. We've been going now for an hour, and we're through the AFC. So we've done.

make a decision live. You want to keep going? Yeah, let's do NFC next week. All right. Or even maybe even later this week, right? Or maybe so. Yeah, maybe so. Okay. All right. There you go. So we're going to take a break. I've got another call to do. There's so many busy things going on here. You know, it's every year at the same time. Like, this is the downtime. But I spend the downtime catching up on everything I've been behind on to be ready for the uptime, you know. So believe it or not, it's the downtime. It's still kind of busy. So we'll wrap. it here. There was the AFC. We had a little snafu, we should mention. Last week, we tried to record the NFC. And there's literally nothing worse that could possibly happen to me professionally worse than doing a podcast and it not recording. Okay. I was depressed for like a day after that. It didn't, it didn't bother me. Like I know, no, I know from owning a media company that when you do that, myself and I, myself and Jeff Mosher own inside the birds LLC. When our, when it doesn't work technically, it's a pen. We actually had one where we did an hour and a half show and it never taped.

Oh. Yeah. We had a, in fact, we did one with Greg. We had to do one over with him. Oh, God. Yeah. No, I'm, we're all kind of flying by the seat of our pants. And, you know, we have a lot of different pieces here.

And there's a lot of software conflicts with all this stuff. But we did get this one. I can confirm that this one's good. So it's going to be added to the feed. And people can listen to that, you know, at the beach here in July. in late June, and then we'll catch in and check in with the NFC well before training camp, of course, and of course, all the other podcasts, a lot of podcasts here at FantasyPoints.com. So for Adam Kaplan, I'm John Hanson.

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