Fantasy Football Daily - 2022 Week 10 Matchup Podcast

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) and Greg Cosell (@gregcosell) preview Week 10 NFL action. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more ab...out your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 It's time for the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top-level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Here we go, a week 10 edition of the matchup podcast here at FantasyPoint.com. I'm John Hansen, recording this puppy here on Wednesday night, November 9th. Greg CoSell standing by, been in the film room per usual. Greg, how are you? You know what? I'm doing well, John. You know, we have to make a few adjustments on the matchup show again this week when the news about Matthew Stafford came out this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:00:53 So, you know, but hey, other than that, you know, these things happen. Yeah, no question. The other one that really threw you for the loop, it was at Jamar Chase, I believe, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, because I did a piece on Stafford. you know, for this week because we were going to do the Rams cards game. And also now Murray has a hamstring injury. Who knows about that? Hamstrings don't usually hear a heel in a day or two. But we may have to make an adjustment there.
Starting point is 00:01:20 But other than that, I've got a name for you, which I'm sure you're well on top of. But I think it's a really important name. Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. Let's go right there for the Minnesota Vikings. I had a gut feel. We talked about it on the live show.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yeah. Last week we talked about the fact that, you know, he was going to be a big factor. and, you know, who knew he'd have nine catches in his first game, but he is going to be a big factor. Big factor. And from your tape study, I saw your notes, you know, he was doing it against zone. He was doing it against man. It's like I basically felt like he'd been there three years.
Starting point is 00:01:54 No question. And, you know, sometimes he beat corners. So, I mean, you know, he's, first of all, as you recall, and this doesn't happen very often. In fact, I can't recall another one, but I'm sure I did have one or two going back years. When he came out of Iowa, I did not have a weakness in my weakness section. Oh, yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:02:13 And again, that didn't mean I thought that he'd step in and catch 100 balls and be an all pro and Hall of Famer. I just didn't see a defined weakness in his game. And for whatever reason in Detroit, you know, and there's always many reasons that you and I can't be aware of because we're not in the building. But it just didn't work out from a fantasy perspective in terms of numbers. But I think he's in a really good spot now. And separate from fantasy, he's also a terrific inline blocker.
Starting point is 00:02:38 and we know they want to run the ball with Dalvin Cook. I think the offense is still ascending in Minnesota. I don't think we've seen them even get rolling yet. I would agree with that. I think they're still figuring out, you know, Kevin O'Connell's offense. You know, Cousins is a veteran who's been in one offense for a year or so. It just becomes different. And it takes a little time, no matter how much of a veteran you are.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I've heard Rich Gannon talk about this all the time. Yep. Oh, excuse me. different play caller, somebody different in your ear, just the way information is given to you and how it's received. It just takes time. But I don't think they've hit their stride yet. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:17 By the way, I'm with you. We are totally in the coughing era phase of the year here. Like November starts getting cold. Everyone's got some sort of congestion going on. I've been definitely, I've been talking like a 60-year-old, 70-year-old man, you know, like Harry Callis all week here. You know what I'm saying? There's nothing wrong with that, John.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I'm getting close there. So, yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I know, I know. We try and sound a little youthful here. I don't want to sound like an 89-year-old guy. But, you know, real quick on Hockinson. Just my theory very quickly, you know, that's a lot of pressure. Top 10 pick for the Lions, kind of like the guy.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And, you know, he's great. But I feel like maybe he's not, you know, The guy. Like when you plop him, though, in this environment, now he's a, he's a piece, and he's a damn good piece. Well, I personally think he'll become the number two weapon behind Jefferson. Yeah. You know, feel solid. Absolutely. You can certainly throw to seal in given situations because you know he's a pro is pro. True. But I think in terms of target share and receptions, I think Hawkinson will become number two.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Well, I actually agree with that. I was kind of like with Dalvin, you know, like, he's like the third guy. there in the offense, you know, excluding the quarterback, which I think is good. I think the guy that I'll get hurt by this is Osborne. I mean, I like Osborne a lot. I'm talking about from a fantasy perspective. He's still, I think he's still a very, very good player, and you want to have three quality wideouts.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I don't know what, you know, his target share could drop. By the way, potential revenge game here for Case Keenham this week. I know you saw that tape on Josh Allen. You know, I will say that Josh Allen's numbers have been there, but it's been weird. They're not really supporting a lot of fantasy guys. Really, no one consistently other than Diggs.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I do feel like their offense has been a little off this year. I would agree. I would agree. It's in. They've had moments, and Alan certainly made special plays, which he can make at any given time. But I would say that they haven't been quite as, as, I don't know what the word is consistent, maybe.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But, you know, they've still still a lot of... Dangerous. They haven't been as dangerous. Yes. That might be a good word. That might be a good word. Yeah, like threatening, you know, like not a ton of downfield big plays. No. You know, I agree with that. And what do you see out of the Vikings defense while we're talking there? You know, I think they're pretty good. I feel like the corners are getting better and the pass rush has been pretty good.
Starting point is 00:05:55 No, I think their defense is kind of overlooked a little bit. I think they're front six, particularly in where they play mostly is very good two veteran linebackers, a lot of length up front to rush the quarterback. I agree with you in the secondary. I think it's getting better. You know, they've got veterans in Peterson and Harrison Smith, and then young players like Cam Bynum and Cam Dansler, who I think are improving players. So, you know, it's just not a sexy defense because they don't blitz a lot. You know, they're not one of those defenses you go, wow, but up front, they have a lot of lane. They have Hunter. They have Smith who moves all over.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Smith has been like, I mean, he seems to me like a top 10 impactful defensive player this year, maybe even top five. Yeah, and I really like DJ one of them as well. All these guys are six, four, six, five, and can line up all across the defensive front. So that could be a tough go if it's Case Keenum here for the Buffalo Bills. I guess, Mike, one more point. If Josh can't go. And, you know, you don't know if we don't know the answer to that. I'd be surprised if he didn't go out there, honestly, but we'll see.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You mean you'd be surprised if he, so you'd be surprised if he didn't play? Yes, I would. Based on his history, yeah, I think so. Well, for the moment, let's say he doesn't. And you'll know this, you know, at some point, and then you'll make adjustments if necessary. Yeah. Do you think they will run the ball more, you know, because obviously they believe that Josh Allen is Superman and he can do anything, and they don't really run the ball with any great, great consistency.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Here and there they do. Would you expect them to have more just volume carries for backs? I don't know if they... Jayne took more this week, and I think that he's going to become a little bit more of a run player. Now, Hines only played four snaps last week because he was new, but I'm curious to see how he fits in here. So you think James Cook, his role might expand in the running game? I do. And again, it may not be this week.
Starting point is 00:08:01 That I can't answer. He looks good. No, he looks good. Again, he's a miniature Delvin Cook. It's unbelievable. He's more Juiced and Singletary. And I think they would like to see more explosive plays in the run game. Well, that's why they kick the tires on McKissick, McCaffrey, and Gott Heinz.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I mean, I think Singletary is a solid football player. He's certainly not, you know, a bad player. But I think they'd like to see a little more juice in the run game. No doubt. And Singletary is like, man, geez, they're trying to replace my ass. He's probably heavily motivated as well. Let's move on here. And let's see, where else are it?
Starting point is 00:08:39 Check it on the box. I saw some of your notes about Brady, like, boy, is he getting rid of the ball? Is it almost to a detriment at this point? You know, that's a hard question to answer. You know, I think a big factor now going forward, and maybe not so much volume, although we don't know is Kate Otton. Because they really did not have a tight end who was doing anything until the last couple of weeks. And Otton has become a little bit of a factor.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah. I'm not here to say he's going to get 12 targets this week, you know. No, I'm liking what I see here last three weeks for sure. But I liked him coming out of U-dub. You know, they played a defense that's not really like other defenses in the league this week because the Rams are kind of a soft corner defense. They don't press. They give you free access off the ball.
Starting point is 00:09:27 They play almost all zone. very little man. You know, there are different defense than you see every week in the NFL. Yeah. Well, any thoughts on, I guess it's hard to have any thoughts on the running game because there is no running game. There is no run game. I mean, I really don't know what to say. I'm just being honest with you.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So, you know, I mean, I personally believe just, and you know everything I say is based on my film study. Of course. I believe that they have to play Richard White. I just believe that, you know, again, just like we spoke about James Cook, although, Singletary is clearly a solid back, whereas I think Fournet is kind of not giving you much at all right now. Right. I think Rashad White has to play. He's got to get the reps. Get the ball.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Get into a rhythm here. Then he's a guy. He's not going to pop off a lot of 30-yarders. He'll pop off a lot at nine-yarders, you know? Yeah. I think the answer you get for that because they throw the ball so much. And it's a valid reason is that Four Nets are very good pass protector. And, yeah, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Rashad's getting some chances here and there and all that. I think he's improving. Any thoughts on this Seattle D right now? Because they're actually pretty damn good in every area, honestly. They're not bad against the run. They're damn good against the pass. No, I kind of like Seattle's D. I mean, they've improved greatly over the last three, four weeks.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You know, I think that there's players that stand out to me, and I've said this before, purely based on tape study, A significant upgrade for them is Ryan Neal is a far better player than Jamal Adams. He's been a significant upgrade at strong safety. That's amazing. And, you know, I think, look, they play two corners. Tariq Wallin, who's a rookie, 6-4-215, long and can run. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And the other corner on the left side is Michael Jackson, who was drafted by another team. I forget which team as a late round pick, and then Seattle signed him. So they played two- Dallas. I think it was Dallas. It might have been Dallas. You're right. And then their nickel is Kobe Bryant, who's also a rookie. So, you know, they are playing really, really well. And now they're starting to get a little pass rush pressure from their down four.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And if you can get pass rush pressure from your down four, John, that changes everything about your defense. And this is no cake matchup for the struggling box. No cake matchup at all. Well, I mean, you could make an argument that the Seahawks right now are a better team than the box. I mean, we're arguing all year lately. Well, not all year. Last six weeks. Gino Smith's better than Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:12:01 There it is. And Kenneth Walker, Jr., is a junior or the third? I forget. The third, I believe. Okay. I don't want to get that wrong. But, yeah, the third. He's a really good back.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I mean, they've got a run game. They have a productive run game, a volume run game, a productive pass game. That is not necessarily a volume. last game because they don't have to play that way usually. They can stay relatively balanced. And, you know, Gino's been super efficient. Oh, no question. And by the way, they've discovered over the last couple of weeks, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:40 when that trade went down, we thought, oh, poor Noah fan. Well, he gets the last laugh. And it's like all of a sudden, Noah Fent. Oh, that's right. Noah Fant was the first round pick. A guy can run, you know. Without question. Without question.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I mean, you know, I mean, you know, I mean, I mean, this week, they ran that same play numerous times, and the cards just, you know, they, I don't know what they were thinking, but they did. They ran that little boot where he crossed the formation and they just, no one recognized him. Let's move on because I've got to ask you about the chiefs here. Now, we know Andy loves the forward pass like nobody else, but are we getting to a point now where we might need to do something here because it's unhelp. healthy or is this them? I mean, come on now. 78 attempts. Whatever, 68. Yeah, and obviously more dropbacks than that because he was sacked and he did have some scramble. So it was over 70 dropbacks.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I mean, it's ridiculous. Yeah, that's pretty high. Particularly against a team two that rushed the quarterback really well with their down four. They made it difficult for Mahomes. I know the numbers, you know, obviously because he completed 43 and therefore threw for over 400 yards. That's great for fantasy and people might think he had a good game. He actually did not have. a very good game, and he was under a lot of duress, and they got him anticipating pressure. They got him kind of breaking down. Now, we know Mahomes makes plays when he breaks down. We know that.
Starting point is 00:14:05 But overall, this was not one of his better games. Well, yeah, and you just wonder, I mean, I just, my, you know, uneducated opinion, even though I've been doing this for a while, I don't really delve into it this much, but I feel like Andy's out there drawing up some great route combinations and all that, But we're still, it's still kind of individual plays. Is that fair? The offense? No, I don't, I don't think they're necessarily an individual play offense.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Okay. I think they're far more than that, but they just throw it a whole lot. They just throw it way too much. Maybe for my taste relying a little too much on the mastery of Mahomes. Yeah, and I think that's easy to do. You know, in some ways they're doing with him to some degree now what the bills do with Josh. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Exactly. by Superman every week, and he's great. So more often than not, he is Superman. It's just hard to play that way, particularly when you play a team that can rush the quarterback well and consistently with your down four. I thought Edwards Allaire was going to represent a little bit of a value this year. I look good after five weeks and not so good now.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I don't even know what to think. Maybe something's going on, but it's just weird. They don't use them in the passing game. and obviously they're not giving him a chance to get going on the ground. He's had a couple of moments on the ground this year. So I just don't. I mean, I'm just being honest. I can only tell you, you know, watch the tape.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I don't know why they make the decisions that they make regarding the running backs. They're with these guys every single day. Andy Reid's been doing it a long time. You'd have to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's a pretty damn good coach. Well, that said, I also worked for a year with Brian Westbrook, analyzing games. And, you know, obviously it came up a lot. We're often Brian be like, come on, Andy, run the ball.
Starting point is 00:15:59 You know, so he loves him, but he also always thought he should have ran the ball more. So, I mean, two things can be true there at the same time. But we also need to get into, I mean, we all know at this point the dolphins are, I mean, dare I say, unstoppable. But we've got to get into this transformation by Justin Fields and the Chicago. a bear passing game because apparently, Greg, they met a couple of weeks ago and, you know, barred from a couple of offenses doing some things around the league this year and made their adjustments. I thought this is what they were going to do all year, all offseason, get fields on the move
Starting point is 00:16:39 more. But here's your thoughts on this transformation because it seems to be working in terms of actually he's throwing the ball better. It just seems to be really working. Yeah, I mean, look, let's be honest about what the tape shows. And we've talked about fields every week, and I think he's getting incrementally better every single week. You could almost see watching him how much more comfortable he is playing the position. But the past game elements are remedial, and I think that's intentional.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And I don't mean that in a negative way. I think they're getting him more and more comfortable every week. the throws they're asking him to make are, you know, relatively easy throws by NFL standards. But I did love the 16-yard touchdown to Mooney on third. Oh, yeah. Exactly. You know, beautiful throw. Great route combination. Yeah, you know, I thought that was just a really, you know, really a good job overall.
Starting point is 00:17:39 But there's no question that, you know, he's got running ability. Here, I'll give you a great example. I actually called my buddy Matt Bowen today and said, how would you coach this because Matt's a coach as well you know and um as as people may remember he was on the matchup show with me for four years so we still talk ball all the time yeah you know his 61 yard touchdown um it was a great example of where fields is in his development because the bhares ran a route concept and there was a receiver wide open right in front of fields wide open for the first down and he didn't throw it instead he ran it ended up being a 61 yard touchdown so i said to matt
Starting point is 00:18:16 you know, as a coach, how do you coach that? What do you say to him? You know, when you're in the meeting, what do you say to him? You know, because I find that fascinating with these quarterbacks that use their legs and leave throws that are there on the field within the structure, how you coach these guys, you know, because I'm not a coach. So I can find that fascinating as kind of an intellectual exercise. You know what I would do?
Starting point is 00:18:39 I'm no coach. I coached Little League Baseball, though, for 14 years, which I know people are laughing right now. But I would not say a damn thing if he scores a touchdown on it. But if he doesn't make a big play, I would then point him back and say, oh, by the way, you know, nice try, but here's what you missed out on, you know, right? No, I think, and it's funny because I think you do have to say something, but I think then it comes to how you say it. Because, you know, you're not going to say, oh, man, you did a terrible job.
Starting point is 00:19:08 You're not going to say that. But I think when coaches work 16, 17 hours a day and really put together what they do. And, you know, I don't know if you've got any chance to see play books in your career I have and everything is so finely detailed and nuanced. I think you have to basically, you know, acknowledge that, hey, you know, we called a play. The play worked, you know, we'd love to see you make that throw, you know. Yeah, sure. I think you got to let him know that. You can't act like, you know, nothing happened because we know that the 61-yard run is not going to happen all the time. Exactly, yeah. Do you see, I still see an offense that to your point about, you know, it's still
Starting point is 00:19:53 incremental progress because there's still very small margin for error. Is it almost like they have a first read? And if it's there, great. If not, well, we're screwed. You know, I mean, is that very simple? Like, if it's still kind of like, is he doing any progression work or is it more like a Let me go this way. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that our coaches would say, hey, first read, then just take off. I'm not sure they would say that. Because obviously when you put in a past game, a past game does have progressions and it has multiple reads, depending on what the coverage is that you get. Now, they might say, I guess because I'm not a coach, I don't know exactly how they would say it. But I don't think they would say it as clearly, John, as, hey, first read, not there. Just take all. off. Sure, sure, sure. I would say that. I was very high, believe it or not, because I got it, I don't think this guy's a specimen
Starting point is 00:20:50 by any stretch. I think he's just above average. But I was told that Cole Commet was going to be a big factor in the red zone. Obviously, nothing happened. For sure. Yeah, so that's where I wanted to go with it. Like, between like Fields getting a better command and his wheels and what you can do off of that with a guy like Commet, I feel like we can see a lot of touchdowns here.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah, I mean, you know, when a lot of this stuff's really well-schemed, I mean, that's what they try to do and that's good coaching. But yeah, Commets becoming a factor for sure. And no, the offenses, like I told you, I kind of enjoy watching the offense every week, just as someone who loves to evaluate quarterbacks. I really enjoy seeing fields on a weekly basis. I understand what he is. I understand what he's being asked to do. But there's definitely incremental growth, and he's clearly a more comfortable player now. And I was screaming for them, what do I know?
Starting point is 00:21:40 but I was screaming for them to trade for Denzel Mims because I'm like, they need some length out there and a guy who can run and, you know, Claypool is I guess better than nothing. It seems like he helped. They have a ton of draft picks and they've got, from what I understand, a lot of money under the cap. So it's going to be, they could have a fascinating offseason. Yeah, it's amazing how quickly things have turned for fields. I mean, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I don't know if I've ever seen a turnaround like this, basically in a, in a month, you know, we go from this is, they got to sit them down to, we're good, at least for fantasy. A couple of other nuggets here we want to get to. You did not see Zach Wilson, I don't think, right? You saw the defense. No, I did not see him yet, no. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:22:28 No problem. We talked to Tom Brady here. Just going through Greg Kossell's notes as he barrels through. We got through a good amount of stuff this week, though. I see. Yeah. Well, the weekly checking on Tua and the day. dolphins, I guess still good.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Oh, you know what? I thought Tua was, believe it or not, and the numbers might not have been as good as a few other games. I thought this week he was just downright brilliant. I mean, I wish you could sit with me and see when he starts his delivery, you know, when he separates his hands from the ball. Yeah. Against zone coverage where receivers are and where he throws it.
Starting point is 00:23:02 His sense of timing and anticipation is really high level right now, really high level. We started to see a little Drew Breeze out there. Yeah, well, it's funny because, you know, I spoke to our buddy Joe Dolan this weekend because I did a piece on Tua for the matchup show last week, and I think people took it the wrong way, which sometimes happens. That's fine. So I said, Joe, please retweet my evaluation of Tua from, you know, the year he came out, you know, before he was drafted.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And he did. And if you read my transition, because it's out there still somewhere. on Twitter. Oh, yeah. I literally nailed exactly what he is and what he's doing right now based on, you know, studying him in college. Isn't that good feeling, though, when you draw on that base of knowledge and you say, this is what I see for what it's worth.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And that one there, for sure, it was worth a lot. Yeah. And, you know, look, hey, we're all going to be wrong sometimes. But, you know, sometimes, you know, you know, to me, it's funny. you know how it is sometimes I'll say something and people will say boy that's a controversial statement right of course and I think to myself well I'm just I'm watching the tape so to me it's not a bold or controversial statement it's just what the tape is showing me right here's the best way to whittle it all down you tell people things they're not ready to hear that's it and it's all based on tape
Starting point is 00:24:31 study, John. Now, I understand that some people can look at tape and maybe see some things differently. I get that. And there's things I can't see one person and I can't see everything. You know, I always think when I'm watching tape that if a coach was sitting with me, he'd see 10 things I'm missing. And that's probably true because I'm one person that has to get through a lot of stuff every week, as you all know. But, you know, I like to think that at least I know what I'm looking at and, you know, I'm going to be right more than not. do you see the yeah they're all good all and you can be pretty decisive because you're objective because you're just going off the film yeah that's what i'm trying to do yeah exactly now there's decisiveness in scouting that there's you got you got to carry a consider a lot of
Starting point is 00:25:16 other factors you know the guy and the you know personal but you can just yeah i don't get to do that i don't work for a team so i'm not interviewing the players right you're just narrowing it right on down there to, I should be hired by a team. I should be the temperature in the room guy. Like, I'll just sit back and I'll just observe. Like, for example, like Rashad White, when I met Rashad White, I'm like, this kid is an old soul, and this kid is mature beyond his years, and he's the least entitled guy I've ever met.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And lo and behold, Rashad White last week, is helping Leonard Fournett, the veteran, Lombardi Leonard, deal with its frustrations on the sidewalk. You know what I mean? I'll tell you a great example of that because we both were involved with this when we talked to Dak Prescott at the combine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 We knew right away again. Exactly. You could just see it. You could just see it talking, you know, because we spent 10, 15 minutes talking with him, and you could just see that this kid as a human being, as a person, was exactly what you wanted. Does that mean he's going to throw a better ball? No, but you could.
Starting point is 00:26:25 just knew that given an opportunity, he was going to make the absolute most of it. You knew he was dead serious. Correct. Dead serious. You know who, by the way, not to go off on a tangent, I've done 150 players. And the number one guy where I came away like, wow, I've never seen a guy that eager to show what he can do, Josh Allen. Oh, I've been around Josh Allen. I've been around Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Unbelievable, dude. we'll do it. Well, we'll wrap on that note. That was a good little convoy here. And again, it's just a part of the puzzle here that we produce over at fantasypoints.com with Greg CoSells content here. And we'll do the live stream on Thursday with me, Greg and Adam Kaplan, previewing the entire week 10th slate. A little quicker here, Greg. But you know what? We gained that hour last week. We're feeling pretty good. We'll end it here and make sure to listen to it. Love these convos, John, you know, because I hope people can appreciate it that this is not like a hardcore fantasy half hour or 35 minutes that we're just kind of talking. And I love that we can go off on tangents. You know, it's funny. You mentioned Josh Allen. The player who I've been very fortunate to have been around and I know him and, you know, is Bryce Young, obviously not an NFL player. And he's going to blow away NFL teams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 In time with Bryce Young, you're just truly, truly blown away. So you met him at the Maxwell Club? No, I met him in other things. A couple things, yeah. I talked to him. Oh, yeah. He's just an unbelievable kid and he's super smart. And, you know, he's going to be one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:28:09 That's going to get NFL teams excited. Well, I mean, I'm all about that. That is giving me a big edge of people don't realize. It's true. I'm very good with that kind of stuff. Actually, Greg, I did forget one thing real quick. so we will probably go to the 30. You saw Herbert.
Starting point is 00:28:28 So, you know, it seems to me looking at your notes, and by the way, this rookie left tackle is grading out pretty damn well. Yeah, and he was actually, most people thought, because I watched him coming out of Georgia. Most people thought he played guard in the NFL. But he's don't know. But don't forget, keep one thing in mind. You can help your offensive line.
Starting point is 00:28:47 You know, everybody just says, oh, I don't understand. Herbert's got a big arm. Why do they throw the ball short? Okay. You know, you've heard that. Everybody says that. Yeah. Well, you know, there's other factors involved.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Their offensive line, first of all, they got the rookie at left tackle. They've got kind of a bit of a revolving door at right tackle. Right tackle's a bit of a problem for years. You know, they're starting a rookie right guard who's done pretty well, the kid from Boston College. But even, you know, you can't expose your offensive line like that. And for all we know, Herbert could still be fighting that injury. That was a severe injury.
Starting point is 00:29:19 You don't want him getting hit. And he's a guy that will stand and deliver. So, you know, there's a lot of factors here that go into play as to whether, you know, you want him taking deep drops and throwing the ball down the field right now. You know, and I must admit early this week, my mind drifted to a place where I started thinking, okay, well, maybe this guy isn't a perfect prospect as he's shown almost. But from the looks of it and the sounds of your, from the sounds of your description and the looks at your notes here, it seems like he's the same guy.
Starting point is 00:29:51 it's just a situation around him has got to really devolved. Well, he's not putting up the numbers. Right. Well, they've got the injuries. The injuries are a bit big. You're in the fantasy world. So, and a lot of people are.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And a lot of people judge players now. And that's okay. A fantasy is awesome. It keeps a lot of people really interested in the NFL. Oh, exactly. We love it. But sometimes numbers are not the way to judge a player's performance. And while I will say that,
Starting point is 00:30:19 I don't think Herbert has been as consistent this year as he was a year ago. I think that's evident based on Tane. I don't think he's playing poorly. Right, right. And the injury element, too, it needs to be always considered here as we evaluate him this year thus far, at least, because, you know, the dude had that injury. And then he, you know, Keenan Allen's been out for damn near two months. Mike Williams in and out. So yeah. And Mike Williams is now out for, you know, at least a while because it's a high ankle sprain. And by the way, I saw you noted Isaiah. Spiller, the rookie, any thoughts?
Starting point is 00:30:53 It looked like he did some good things. Yeah, I mean, they used him for what he is. He's an inside runner. That's his strength. He'll fight for yards. You know, what really stood out to me was a past protection play where he really took on the blitzing linebacker and he really nailed him. That really stood out to me.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Well, that'll help. Get him on the field here. And that does get us over that 30-minute mark there. So we'll wrap it up here. Great stuff for week number 10. Good luck to everybody. Again, tune in to all the other podcasts and check out the live stream at fantasypoints.com. Promo code Hansen 22 can save you 10% off of those discounted prices.
Starting point is 00:31:33 For Greg, I'm John. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks for tuning in to this edition of the Fantasy Points podcast. Remember to subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite platform. And come join the roster at FantasyPoint.com.

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