Fantasy Football Daily - 2022 Week 13 Matchup Podcast

Episode Date: December 1, 2022

John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) and Greg Cosell (@gregcosell) preview Week 13 NFL action. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Here we go with the Week 13 Matchup Podcast here at FantasyPoint.com. I'm John Hanson, recording this Wednesday evening, November 30th, 6.30. 30 p.m. Eastern, if you must know. Greg CoSell has been in the film room per usual here, breaking down everything from week 12, getting to as much tape as he can. We have his notes in hand. We're going to go through those notes. Just a small sample of some of the insight we get from Greg

cocell at FantasyPoints.com. The live stream every Thursday night with me and Greg and Adam Kaplan is much more expansive than this podcast. This is a little bit of a taste here. Greg, good evening. How are you? I think I'm doing okay, John. How are you? Um, fighting off the, uh, you know, that little, uh, well, I guess we're well beyond the midseason rut. Um, I guess I'm, I'm not yet setting my sights on the home stretch, but we're getting close. You know, I'm, uh, you know, I've been, it's that time of year, so I've been wrapping up like a little bit of a cold, which fortunately did not really knock me out, but just, you know, became a little bit of a pain, but it's that time of year.

Yeah, getting colder, temperature changing. Yeah, no quite. Oh, I had a little thing a couple of weeks ago. Anywho, let's get into it here, looking at your notes. I'm going to start with McCorkel Jones. I was pretty high on Mack Jones going into last week. Granted, a matchup had something to do with it, but I kind of saw them as trending in the right direction.

And, you know, you saw the tape. Talk about what you saw. I know you felt that Mac, was very comfortable in this game. Was it perhaps a match-up thing, or might we be really getting on track offensively with Mac Jones in the passing game? Well, I think we all know

what kind of quarterback Mac Jones is and needs to be, to be effective. The Patriots know that as well, John. This is not a mystery. You know, he's not a high, high-level throwing talent in the sense of velocity, in the sense of driving the ball down the field. he's a rhythmic player.

He sees things extremely well. He has a refined sense of timing. So in the week prior, he did not look like that. And I think I mentioned that to you when we spoke. And of course, there's never a way to know what a guy's going to do the next week. All I do is watch the tape. And the week before, he looked like an uncomfortable player. This week, he looked far more comfortable versus the Vikings.

He was better protected, number one, which, of course, helps every quarterback. I thought he had a better feel for the routes versus the coverage, and that made him more decisive. So, of course, when you're more decisive, you tend to be more confident throwing the football, and therefore his ball placement was really much more precise. And that's the kind of player he needs to be. He needs to be a precise ball placement thrower. So there are a lot of short throws, rhythmic throws, but that's his game. I thought the touchdown, let's put it this way.

I thought the feel that the Patriots had for the Vikings defense from a conceptual and tactical standpoint was really high level. So they had specific play concepts, route concepts that were designed to attack what they were anticipating based on tape study. And I thought they had a very, very good feel. Which made it look like Mac Jones. It was like a walk in the park almost. Like, you know, they made it look pretty easy. And that's kind of what I was getting to. Like how much of that you think can carry over?

to this week, for example, against a Bill's defense that has it faced this year, but we know last year, there was the bad weather game, you know, he has done nothing against this defense thus far, not that it's no, no, and you're also dealing with a division opponent. They know him better than Minnesota does. Yeah. You know, Von Miller will be out. It'll be an unknown. I know we're speaking on a Wednesday, but it's still not known, I guess, whether Rousseau and FNessa are going to play. So, you know, the bills could be down some pass rushers. But, you know, I would assume Tredavius White, who played 16 snaps last week, the first 16 and then did not play anymore. I would assume he'd play more.

But, again, we don't know that. You're right. In his career, because they played them three times last year, one was the cold game in which he threw three times. Right. But the other two games, he did not play particularly well against the bills. So that's a hard question for me to answer. Clearly, they're running a different offense than they did a year ago. Yeah.

So it's a tough call. I mean, I'd love to give you an answer with great conviction, but I don't know. Yeah. Well, you know, I think it's fair to say they're trending in the right direction, look like a professional offense. You know, I felt like I was tipped off because he was completing a very high percentage of his passes. And I'm like, you know what? I'll take that as a step positive sign.

Yep. And that did lead to a, you know, very positive showing this week. And by the way, all those guys are full practice here today. Epinessa, Rousseau, Edmonds, a linebacker. So they're- So they were all full participants? Yeah, they're all good to go. And they're going.

I mean, if you're a full participant today, the day before the game, unless you wake up tomorrow with a major setback, you're playing. Yeah, you're going. Now, do you look at the, structure of the team, really. And right now, because Damien Harris is trending probably toward not playing. Right. You know, they don't use these rookie running back.

So, you know, Ramadra's been great, but you can only do so much. I mean, they do have a lot of weapons to kind of, you know, throw it a little bit more. They do. And they didn't run Stevenson very much last week in a game that was basically close. So it's, I would think it'd be hard for you from a fantasy perspective to really get a handle from a predictive standpoint on what Stevenson's going to do as a runner because he's clearly the number one back. He plays in passing situations mostly as well, mostly. But they did not run him very much last week. So again, I don't know the answer to that. Yeah, well, it hasn't been,

you know, to the point, he hasn't been all that effective. I have him this week 14 carries for 56 yards. That's not a lot. Which might be very fair. Might be very fair. Because that's what they're That's about what he's averaging lately. And, you know, correspondingly, you got to, I mean, they got to run someplace. So Mac Jones, you know, might be throwing a little bit more. Might have to, of course. Yeah, and Damien Harris has already been rolled out for this game as well here. Looks like Wynn is out for New England on the O line.

And then Dawkins also out for the Dionne Dawkins, right? He's a starter still, right? Yeah, that's a little. bit of an issue because their offensive line is not high level to begin with. And Dawkins is a pretty good player. So it's going to be interesting because one thing is the Patriots defense is very good. The Patriots are among the league leaders in sacks. Now, Alan is not necessarily easy to sack. Very often his sacks come from the fact that he tries so hard to make something happen, not from the fact that there's super quick pressure that gets them right to the ground.

Yeah. Well, but anyway, it's a tough defense to play against. go to Josh Allen. Over the last five games, as per Grand Barfield stat pack, you know, opposing defense is basically abandoning the cover two looks, just cover two on 8% of his dropback. So, so against non-cover two shells, which is three, four, six, this completion rate is down 9.3%. So, you know, there are some issues here offensively.

I can't really pinpoint it, but Alan, it seems to be a little off. Yeah, I don't think he's played great. I mean, even in this game against Minnesota, excuse me, the Lions, we were just talking about Minnesota against the Lions. I don't think he played one of his better games, but as we know, he's capable any time. I mean, I hope people understand how ridiculously special that 36-yard ball to Diggs was. Yeah. You know, at the end of the game, you know, that was, you know, we were talking in the matchup room and I was talking to other people. was a ridiculously special throw. He's capable of that.

I don't think he's played with the same level of consistency over the last four or five games, certainly based on what Graham has done, that we've seen him play earlier this year and most of the last two years. But, you know, they could get that back. I think they're trying to run the ball. I mean, I thought their 14-playing 90-R-T-D drive in the fourth quarter in which they took the lead was a very interesting. drive for them because it was methodical and efficient. They were not asking Alan to take over the game. Now, obviously, can he always make a designed run if they call it, or can he always run if he feels he sees space when he drops back? Of course he can. But they did not put that drive on

Josh Allen, go out and let's be Josh Allen and be special. They ran that as a pretty conventional offense, John. And Devin Singletary is clearly their lead back. Clearly their lead running. Yeah, I mean, Cook gets carries, but yes, Singletary is their lead back. Right. Because, like, maybe that was in question with Naheem Hines added, but clearly that's not happening. So probably good news for Singletary. And Alan has not done particularly well in this matchup, even last year, under 60% completion rate and only six years in the 10. You're talking about the Patriots?

Yeah. The two games they won, he was very good, very good. Yeah, the numbers, some of the numbers are, he got. he got four touchdowns and zero picks. But yeah, he was, I mean, again, you know, I don't have the numbers in front of me from a completion percentage standpoint, but I can remember the games. And he was very good. He was the driving force of their offense in games in which they scored a lot of points.

Well, maybe that's the playoffs because I'm not incorporated. I mean, one of the games, I think 47, 17, and the other they scored, I think over 30. Did they not? Let's go take a look. Let's take a look. It's with the beauty of the mastery of the Internet here. All righty. So let's look at the week 15 game first.

They won that game. Alan was, yeah, wait a second. He did throw for 314 with three. Yeah. And was very good. Okay. And then I think what was the final score in that game? The, they won it 3321.

Yeah, so they got over 30, and I'm almost sure they won the playoff game 47-17. Right. So what I'm looking at is the first match-up. Yeah, you're talking about the game in the ridiculous weather. Exactly. So that's what you know. You've got to discount that game. Right. But I know from going back even further, he has. He had big problems against Belichick's defense early in his career. He has. And I'm being honest with you, when he probably did not know what he was looking at. and he was very scattershot as a passer.

Now, I'm not suggesting he's going to come out and go 30 for 40. You know, again, we don't know, and he hasn't been overly sharp in the last month. So maybe based on that, you can be predictive with the idea that he's not going to be special. But for sure, in those two wins last year, he was really good. Right, right. Certainly, you still respect that Patriot defense overall. I mean, what do you think of that defense? How much have you seen of them lately?

Oh, yeah, I've seen a good amount. I mean, yeah, I've seen the Patriot. Do you watch them this week? Feels like if you block Judon, you're good. The Patriots play a lot of different people on defense. That's always been a Belichick staple. They play a lot of different people. They're very multiple with their use of personnel,

particularly with their front alignments. Those have been Belichick staples for a long time. A lot of different combinations. you know, it's almost impossible for me to chart what players play in specific situation. So sometimes I just say forget it and I just watch. And you know what? That's great coaching when like you can play with your whole roster. Guys are fresh, you know?

You know, there's still a high percentage, single high safety coverage defense, but their percentage of man, cover one, varies now from based on the opponent. They used to play cover one 70% of the time. Now they still play single high, but they'll play more cover three. You know, could they play more cover three this week because they might be concerned about Josh running? I don't know. But they're basically a single high safety defense.

I mean, you play man against the bills. You're kind of risking it on both ends, you know, like manning up on digs and even Gabe Davis and also more prone to. Well, they'll double digs in selected situations. I mean, they actually doubled Jefferson on her. his 37-yard catch on third and quarter, 37 in the second quarter last week. They went with an in-and-out bracket, and Jefferson still beat it. He split the bracket with speed, and cousins hit him on the vertical route. So they will double digs in specific

situations. Well, I'm looking for my Thursday night special, and not a lot to choose from, by the way. You're thinking Gabe Davis? Well, Gabe is almost too obvious for the special. The special has got to be a lesser day. And he's not been great. Oh, I know, I know. It's really between Dawson, Knox, and Isaiah McKenzie, and McKenzie got all the production I thought Knox was going to get last week. And I know Knox. Well, it's funny because McKenzie is kind of their man-beater. You know, when the Patriots played man last year, McKenzie had a very good game in one of those games.

It might have been the regular season game. Yeah. You could easily check that. He caught a million balls. Yeah. In that case. But, you know, just like McKenzie was a factor this week against the lions because the lions play a lot of man.

He caught the touchdown against man. So McKenzie is kind of their man-beater. So we'll see. You know, McKenzie could be a guy in this game if the Patriots play man. But you would have, if you have to lean one way, they'll probably not play a lot of man. Boy, you're asking me to get into Belichick's head and I just, that's a hard call. I mean, wouldn't it make sense, I know he's always counterintuitive, but doesn't it make sense to zone up? More?

You would think because Alan will run when he sees green grass in front of him. You know, if he sees man and green grass, he could likely take off. Yeah. And then, or Diggs can kill it in man, you know? Well, unless you're going to double him, depending on the situation. Right, true. Then again, Gabe Davis can crush it in man too. He can.

He's capable. I'm leaning a little bit more zone with Dawson Knox, maybe find that soft spot in the zone, because he's due. but I've got some time to think about. Yeah, they don't use him a lot. I know they don't. I know. I know. Which is interesting because I think he's got some talent. I don't know. There's something missing there. I can't put my finger on it. I don't get it. I would, I think that's a fair statement, but I don't know the answer to that. Well, you know, he did have a personal tragedy this year. So yeah, I think maybe he's not, you know, mentally there. That's very possible. That's very possible. He's a human being. Great guy. Again, one of my favorite Combine interviews of all time, honestly. Let's move on. Greg and you saw the lions and you know talk about this lion's defense because you know a lot of people hang in their hats on like lazy analysis oh it's the lions but like they're like not a pushover on defense now no and I think they've changed a lot of what they do they're not quite as aggressive

they've they've decreased their man coverage a bit you know because that's the way they wanted to play but they didn't have the people um so they did play man versus the bill and they still play man. You know, they're not giving man up because that was obviously their foundation all through OTAs and training camp. So that's what they were taught. So they're not going to give it up. It becomes a matter of degree.

But they played far more cover two versus the bills. You know, they'll play some two men, which is a little safer than cover one. But no, this defense has gotten better. And, you know, they're not great because they don't have great people. But they're better than they were certain. at the beginning of the season. Even the run defense hasn't been that bad. But do you think the fact that they are more man is probably a good thing for Trevor Lawrence? And, you know, I mean, geez, got to give it up to that performance by Lawrence last week. No, Lawrence has played well the

last number of weeks. And, you know, he's been a lot better in a number of areas. And I think, you know, one of the things that we saw early in the season and then it kind of regressed, but we saw it again this week and we've seen it a little bit more in each of the previous two weeks is he just looks so much more compact in his drop and is set in his delivery. His feet are quicker. And that allows him to get back in the pocket. It allows him to be the more decisive in his reads. He's turning it loose within the timing and structure of the route concepts. You know, when you're a lazy dropper, John, and I'm not suggesting he was a lazy dropper. I just think he needed work on his footwork and its quickness. It all starts with.

with your feet. And if you're not back in the pocket ready to deliver when you should be, everything is a beat slower. And it might not look that way to the naked eye to people watching on TV, but that impacts the passing game dramatically. And this week, the first thing I noticed after watching five or six dropbacks when I watched his tape was, man, was he quicker in his drop and his set in his delivery? Everything about his body movements look more compact. Okay. So a lot of it might be mechanical. I'm wondering how much of it is mental, you know, how much is he? Well, I think the mental in some ways follows the mechanical. You feel so much more comfortable. You see it better. You know, don't forget when you're dropping back and

you're moving, you know, you don't see it quite as well as when you're there looking at it. Absolutely. And, you know, the great quarterbacks, and he's not great yet, you know, the hope is he becomes that. We'll see. You know, I'm not ready to say he's great. I don't think anybody is. But, you know, you have to, as a quarterback, there's a couple of things you have to feel, okay? You can't play the position without feeling. You have to feel the rush, not see the rush. You have to feel where defenders are, not study where defenders are. If you can't do those two things, you're going to have a difficult time in this league being a quality quarterback on a week-to-week basis. And I think when you're back in the pocket quicker, your chance for feeling those kinds of things goes up dramatically.

I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I feel like I could argue the opposite. You know, like if you're mentally knowing what's going on, then physically you're more confident. And I think you're right. They go together. They absolutely go together. They do.

But overall, pretty good spot here. No, he's played well. And let's hope he keeps it up because we want these young quarterbacks to become really good players. You know, that's what we're hoping. Oh, sure. Oh, absolutely. But, you know, it's really interesting.

I was kind of surprised watching the Ravens defense last week against Trevor. I almost had to, after a while, had to say, is this the Ravens defense? They hardly played any man coverage. They played high percentage zone. You know, this is not sort of your grandfather's raven's defense. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, they've been doing that for most of the year, though. Yeah, yeah.

You know, I was worried about Marlon Humphrey potentially traveling. He played in a slot, but they didn't play much man. He was on Kirk a lot. I did see that. And I'm sure that had. Just so you know, and I'm just being honest with you. Yeah. He's over Kirk when Kirk's in the slot, but they didn't play man.

So he was not covering Kirk. Got understood. Understood. Yeah. For your benefit, I don't want you to act like, oh, he matched up against Kirk because he didn't match up against Kirk. No, understood. Understood.

Just in the general vicinity, I think, is, I mean, I still feel like Marlon Humphrey's playing at a very high level. He's a good player. But, I mean, the fact is, is they played Stevens number 21 outside, which was really interesting. Hmm. Yeah. Well, again, I mean, with Kirk being a slot receiver, maybe that's why they kept Marlin inside. I didn't chart it. How much was Kirk in the slot last week? Oh, he's in the slot like 80% of the time. Is that where he's in a slot like 80% of the snaps? Yeah, on the season. Okay. 78.4% of the time in the slot.

So that's kind of what I'm, you know, this is like the chest piece. Like, yeah, it's not man, but if, he stays in the slot, that's where Kirk is, you know. Right. I mean, it's not man, but I see what you're saying. It's a problem for Kirk, which is what I pointed out last week. And actually, I actually started Zay Jones in three leagues because of that fact, believe it or not. And it was unbelievable.

But now see, this week, now we're back to Kirk this week because, you know, the inside matchup there might be good. Like, that's a great example, Greg, of that's what I'm looking for. Like if I can get an example, an advantage that way, and granted, it doesn't always work, but there's a separator right there, you know. I don't know if other people were in on Kirk last week or not, but neither here nor there. But while we're talking lions when we were, you know, Jared Goff quietly is very stable, right? I mean, they're kind of managing them, it seems, but he also has been dealing without playing

without a lot of his weapons. No, I think, you know, we talked about this last week. You know, no one's going to suggest Goss the top five quarterback in the league, but, you know, you can line up and play with Jared Gough. You obviously need other things to be functional and effective, but Jared Gough's a good throw with the football. You know, every once in a while he'll get stuck in the pocket and he's not really a movement guy. But, no, Jared Gough has played, you know, given the fact that they've not been stable at running back, I know Williams has a lot of touchdowns, but they really want it swift to be more of the guy.

been in and out of lineup. And given the revolving door wide receiver due to injury, you'd have to argue that Goff had a very solid season. Oh, yeah, no question. Let's move on to the Cowboys. I know you saw them. And our guy, Graham Barfield had another great, I mean, there's a great nugget right here. When Dak Prescott is facing zone, Dalton Schultz leads the team in targets per route run against that coverage. Lamb is right behind him. But, Schultz, his, I think, targets per route run dips significantly against man coverage, which makes a ton of sense, right? Because Schultz is not the greatest athlete out there, you know.

He's more of a- Did he? Did he? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, man, see, that's a great nugget right there. So, you know, when I go into it, I look at, you know, okay, every opponent, you know, and the Colts are not a man-heavy target.

team, right, Greg? I mean, so this could be a Dalton Schultz game. Could be. You know, the Giants played a lot of man coverage, which the Colts probably will not play. So yeah, could it be? Absolutely. You know, I still think Lamb is kind of the number one guy here. But in this Schultz is probably number two in terms of comfort, you know, for Prescott right now. So I think that's probably a fair statement. Yeah, no doubt. Any thoughts on. And Zique, these young tight ends, I'm telling you, man, it seems like this O-line and running game is rolling a little bit. Yeah, well, the Cowboys are playing, you know, a decent amount with 12 personnel. Actually, more than 50% of their offensive snaps this week came out of 12 and 13 personnel.

That's a lot. They play 22 snaps with two tight ends and 13 snaps with three tight ends. So the question is, is that a philosophical approach now or a function of the lack of quality of 11 personnel at this point? Do they not feel real comfortable with their whiteouts other than Lamb? I guess we don't know the answer to that right now. Or I would think that's the case, for sure. James Washington is maybe coming back soon. Or might they not like they're blocking in 11 with Schultz?

maybe because that's what i noticed last year maybe because very often in 11 they'll bring noah brown into the formation as a blocker that is probably he's a very good blocker he is good noah brown is a very very good blocker for a wide receiver but he's still a wide receiver you know right but i'm saying you know if you want to go 11 you know and they haven't done that as much but of course they will do it but noah brown if you're in 11 they often insert him into the formation through a shift or a motion and use him as basically an inline blocker. And he's a very good blocker. It is interesting because, you know, when the Cowboys can do that running game, you know,

how we're used to it, they can be tough to beat. So we shall see. And by the way, Jalen Hertz, you know, I had a conversation with our friend, Mr. C. Kaplan, this morning on the radio. And, you know, at the end of the day, I think he's in Peru. I think he's got special qualities as a runner, you know, his awareness out there is pretty incredible. But I think we know he can dominate in the regular season. I guess the only question is you're in the playoffs against a good defense and you're down,

you know, 10 to 14 points in the fourth quarter. J-Ling we need you to bring us back with your arm because to me, that's the only question with Jailen Hertz, really. And it's a legitimate question. And getting behind like that, obviously. changes the dynamic of their offense because when they're in a normal game or they're ahead, they can do so many things with Hertz and the run game that stress and challenges defenses and makes defenses have to play a certain way that they know from tape study. And then Hertz can be

very proactive and decisive when they do throw the football. So maybe we don't know the answer to that. All we have is what we have now. And I would say Hertz has played for the most part very well within the context of their offense. You know, keep in mind one thing, I was having this conversation with someone this week. And again, you always want good players everywhere

and you want your team to execute. So it's not a knock on Jalen Hertz because every team would love to have the Eagles' offensive line, arguably the best in football. Every team would love to have the quality of their receivers. Obviously, Goddard is hurt, but he'll be back.

Every team would love to have two wide outs like Brown and Smith and a tight-in the quality of God, You know, obviously they can run the ball. Sanders is clearly a quality back. And Gainwell played more snaps this week than in any game this season. Okay. So they have a lot of really, really good people on offense.

So as I said, it takes nothing away from hurts because every team would want this. But, you know, obviously everybody starts making lists of quarterbacks, you know, who's great and who's not. you know, he has everything you would want to have as part of your offense. Sure, sure. But I personally would rather roll with Joe Burrow because if we're up. I would imagine that pretty much everybody you would speak to, and I speak to people, as you know, would say that Joe Burrow was a better quarterback. I don't think that would be a debate for half a second with people.

But that's, you know, that's. It is interesting. And again, it's not a knock on Hertz who's, you know, Obviously the team's 10 and 1 and he's playing well and the team's playing well. But Joe Burrow would be considered a better quarterback and I don't think there would be much discussion about it. I would say it this way maybe. Maybe you think I'm crazy. But I look at things in a momentum sense.

I mean, the momentum right now it hurts is completely unstoppable almost. Everything is working well. He's got a lot to do with that. The coaches have a lot to do with that. But that momentum can be seriously. disrupted in a given week, especially against a great defense. John, keep one thing in mind. If you include the five-hurt scrambles, the Eagles had 49 rushes, which of course

doesn't even include a couple of quarterback sneaks and then a couple of kneel downs at the end. So they had 49 rushes. They ran for 363 yards. Those are college numbers. I know. That's not going to happen every week. Their run games really good, but that's not going to happen every week.

Yeah, but, you know, I would have a concern if I'm a fan that, you know, that the attempts are kind of decreasing because I want the opposite to happen maybe. And I know God itself, but they started decreasing before that because I'm looking down the road at the 49ers or the Cowboys. Maybe. Let's go 49ers. I mean, when in the NFL, it happens rarely that a team scores five offensive. touchdowns with the quarterback only throwing for 153 yards.

Yeah. But that's, you know, but there's other elements to their offense, as we know, that are very difficult to defend. So you can't just look at Hertz's passing numbers. I know what you're saying. And maybe there will be a game regular season or playoffs where he is forced, you know, to drop back 40 times and we'll see how teams play it. You know, he's tough to defend.

He's tough to defend. He is very tough to defend. But, you know, it's going to. to be very fascinating. You know, again, not to go beat a dead horse here, but, you know, you go, you know, you play Sam Fran, very good defense. They're loaded. You know, they make a couple players. Oh, boy, that's going to be, you know. Right. But, you know, then you get into the issue with the Niners, of course, that they're very erratic with their scoring on a week to week basis. Well, yeah, they have their issues too. And, you know, McCaffrey, by the way,

and already, you know, Mitchell, you know, that lasted for about a week and a half. McCaffrey is dealing with a knee, yeah. So is he questionable for this? week. Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely questionable. Interesting. Because I know he only had seven carries, and, you know, obviously, obviously, they played Jordan Mason at the end of the game. You know, it was, you know, more than a one-score game, but McCaffrey has not really been used, even when healthy, as a true feature back. Maybe that one game without Debo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's on the injury report. Questionable knee didn't practice on Wednesday. So Shanahan said he's hopeful he will play Sunday, though. Maybe it's a little bit of a management thing, but certainly not the greatest side there. But went off into a little bit of a wormhole there, but just having a convoy. Oh, by the way, Bengal offense. I had one other thought here before we wrap it up here with Greg CoSell. I think people should trade for. know that it's getting late in the year, Tyler Boyd. Because when you look at the numbers,

Tyler Boyd's production was soaring until Jamar Chase left the lineup. So any thoughts there. I would assume Jamar Chase will play this week. I don't know how much, because they said he was close last week. So I have to believe he's going to play this week. Yeah. I feel like the Bengals have kind of held it down pretty well without Chase. I feel like the law, the offensive line has come together a little bit. Hayden Hurst has chipped in. T. Higgins has stepped up a little overall. Phil Burroughs playing pretty well without Chase. Well, you know what?

We always see with Burrow, and you saw it this week. Tran Irwin made a catch. Higgins made two or three is Joe Burrow may be. Again, I don't want to say he is for sure because it's not like I'm charting throws from every single quarterback. But he may be the most aggressive quarterback in the league throwing to one-on-ones outside the numbers. How about decision-making-wise, though? I mean, I feel like he's, you know, if you're that and also making good decisions overall, that's pretty good.

Oh, no, Burroughs are really good. I don't think there's any. He's not reckless at all. And, you know, he's also kind of a sneaky secondary action movement player. Oh, yeah. I mean, he's not an explosive athlete the way you think of Hertz or Josh Allen or obviously Lamar, who's, you know, in a class by himself when it comes to that kind of thing. but, you know, he's a very poor man's Allen. Very sneaky.

He's a very poor man's Allen, you know, coming home from a night of drinking, basically. That's a barrel compared to Allen, but I'm kind of kidding. Yeah, well, I mean, Josh, there's no, there's no more physical runner in the league for a quarterback, physical I'm talking about, than Josh Allen. No, but his explosiveness is ridiculous, too. Yeah, yeah. Which Burrow doesn't have that, you know. No, no, but he's sneaky athletic. He makes second reaction plays.

Yeah, no question about it. Any other, any thoughts? I see you went, you know, like you looked at Derek Henry. How is Derek Henry looking to you lately, you know? You know, that's a hard question. He hasn't had really long runs, although when he caught the 69-yard screen, he did run away from people. Yeah, yeah.

So, you know, you have to remember, John, they've got serious issues on their all line. Serious. You know, I think he looks okay. Yeah, I do too. I mean, you know, there. They're playing a rookie right tackle. They're playing a journeyman left tackle who probably shouldn't be a starter. With Ben Jones out the last two weeks, they're playing a 275 pounds center. Now they're playing Dylan

Raidens, the second year player from North Dakota State at Guard. And he's not really a good player at this point, whether he becomes one, who can say. So their O line is not very good. This is going to be an intriguing matchup for them against a D-line for the Titans, because the Titans, the Titans play the same way all the time. I know they're coming off a tough loss and they're coming to Philly and maybe Philly thinks they're going to kick their ass. But the thing about the Titans and Rable is they are tough, they're physical, they're competitive, they're nasty.

They will make the game a heavyweight fight. And on that note, that's... I'm not saying they'll win, but they'll make the game a heavyweight fight. Oh, sure. Absolutely. That's 35 minutes right there with Greg Kosell for the week 13. matchup podcast, just a little bit of a taste of the inside. We've got pages and pages of notes that we could have gone through,

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