Fantasy Football Daily - 2022 Week 15 Matchup Podcast
Episode Date: December 16, 2022John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) and Greg Cosell (@gregcosell) preview Week 15 NFL action. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more ab...out your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm John Hansen, Greg CoSell.
In the film room, per usual here.
It doesn't end until the season ends.
Actually continues throughout the playoffs.
So he is ready to rock and roll and ready to go for what is indisputably the most important weekend in the history of fantasy football.
Greg, are you ready?
I am.
You know, hey, your good buddy, Lindsay Rhodes contacted me.
I did a podcast with her.
Ah, look at that.
And she's getting into fantasy heavily.
So yeah, she said that you, you know, referenced me on a regular basis.
So she said she had to reach out.
Yeah, you see that?
I give you credit when you have, when you have like, there's always like, you know,
like a handful of nuggets every week that I just kind of walk around with that you've dropped on us here.
And very unique insight.
So when I get the chance to name drop your name, I do.
National TV, Greg.
Look at that.
Well, there you go.
I should be your agent, really, at the end of the day.
Let's get into it here.
And we'll start with, boy, what a fascinating matchup this is going to be with Tua Tungovela traveling to Buffalo with snow and the forecast.
And I know you saw the tape from last week and, you know, general thoughts on what's happening because, you know, a month ago, we thought this offense was almost indefensible.
I would argue maybe Jalen Waddle is hurt, but what is this tape show?
Well, I thought that the Chargers played a specific kind of defense, which, of course,
not every team is going to do, but Brandon Staley is very aggressive, and he's very process-oriented,
and the results end up being the result.
So the Chargers' defensive profile versus the Dolphins was Pressman with a healthy dose of cover two.
So what happens there is Pressman is self-executive.
explanatory, you're pressing the receivers. Cover two, you can also press and disrupt the
receiver's routes off the ball because you have two over-the-top safeties. And can you get
burned doing that? Absolutely. Teams are very leery of doing that because of the speed of Waddle
and Hill. But in fact, they only got burned one time. And that was the 60-yard touchdown to
Hill in which I believe Mike Davis fell down. But other than that, by disrupting routes off the line,
and disrupting the timing of the past game.
Because as we have discussed before, John,
you can't disrupt Tua in normal down-and-distance situations
because everything is quick rhythm, quick-timing the balls out.
So the pass rush doesn't get there in normal down-and-distance situations.
So you have to try to disrupt the receivers.
But most defenses are very leery of that just because of the speed.
They don't want to get hit with the big play.
Brandon Staley, obviously, roll the dice.
and said, you know what, I'm going to do that.
I'm going to play press.
And he even had Mike Davis, who's the boundary corner,
because the Chargers played boundary and field corner.
They don't match up.
So Davis is the boundary corner and Samuel is the field corner.
He even had Davis the boundary corner in a sense playing zero man on occasion,
bringing the boundary safety inside to close down windows.
So he was very aggressive and it worked.
And by the way, that doesn't mean every team will do it, nor is it a blueprint because you know what?
My guess is that Mike McDaniel and staff, they saw it and now they'll have some kind of response to it.
The bills won't do that, by the way.
They don't play that way.
It's a true pick-your-poison situation there with, you know, do you press and risk getting beat over the top or do you sit back and give these guys that free release?
Now, you know, Tredavius White, looking at your notes, did seemingly move.
around a little to be on Wilson
last week. I mean, could they
do that with Tyreek?
They could, but
he wouldn't be playing press man on every snap
even if you wind up over him.
I think, I'm talking about tactically,
will the bills play some man coverage? Of course.
Everybody plays some man coverage,
some more than others,
but the bills will not
play... That's not a staple of their
defense. The bills can
play cover too, for sure. Yeah. You know, that's
something you could well see, and you
can disrupt receivers playing cover two because of that help.
Yeah, because they're not a press man team.
No, they're coverage team.
But they also have two really veteran defensive coaches in Sean McDermen and Leslie Frazier,
and there will be something.
You know, when these teams played week three, obviously the dolphins won in a very close game.
The dolphins only ran 39 offensive plays in that game.
Yeah.
And we also have the weather situation because I don't think two has ever even,
don't quote me on this, won a game, under 50?
Yeah, that I don't know, but I believe there's snow in the forecast and reasonable
wins, so we'll see how it plays out.
Do you notice, I mean, could this simply be a function of like, you can't survive
for a whole season in the NFL, basically throwing it to two guys?
I mean, did you notice Waddle not moving quite as well?
They don't have anybody else to pick up the slack if teams can contain Tyreek and water.
I mean, they've gotten plays from Trenton.
Here or there, yeah.
I mean, Giseki's been a non-factor.
Complete non-factor.
Well, two in his last three has, you know, we're going back to the year before.
So he's had a rough go here in this matchup overall, including the game this year.
He's only got one touchdown in three games.
So that's not good.
And he's averaging 134 yards a game.
So it's going to be a very big test.
And we don't even know about the running game for Miami with Jeff Wilson.
Wilson getting hurt.
So this is, boy, this is fascinating.
This is like, maybe I'm overreacting, but I keep saying in the NFL, it's like every
season has many seasons, you know, like.
Right.
That's true.
And the season where Tyreek and the dolphins were on stop.
But I think that season's over, you know, we're on, we're on to a new season.
So I'm trying to figure.
Well, we've, you know, obviously what has happened in the last week is we've removed
the Hall of Fame jacket from Tua and given it now to Brock Perra.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, you did see that tape, though, right?
I believe.
I did.
I thought Brock Purdy played well.
Yeah, huh?
Yeah, well, he gives them some things that Garapolo doesn't.
And, of course, it's two games.
So, you know, we have to be careful about anointing.
It's two games.
But all we have is the two games.
And, you know, I think one of the things that really stood out is, you know,
one thing you'll see more of with the Niners with Purdy is play action boot
because Purdy's more mobile than Garapolo, and he's a bad.
better thrower on the run. He's more accurate on the run. So you'll see more of that. He can give you
some second reaction plays too with his mobility and his willingness to leave the pocket and make
something happen. He's that kind of quarterback. He did that in college. You know, he's a he's a leave the
pocket mover, let me make it happen kind of quarterback. Yeah. So you're and there's always pros and cons to
that, but this past week there were far more pros than cons. Yeah. So you're giving up,
You're adding to the quarterback spot there some mobility, some ability to extend plays better
than Jimmy, and you're losing a little bit of arm talent.
Is that fair?
You are, but I think in the context of this offense, armed talent in a strict sense is not
as important as in some other offense.
I mean, if you were just a value-winning purdy, which I did coming out of college,
and which, by the way, NFL teams did, and there were NFL teams.
by the way, that did not even have Purdy as a priority free agent, much less a draftable player.
If you're just evaluating Purdy as an absolute, you would not say he has really good
arm talent. You know, that's just a fact.
Right. Yeah. But in that offense, do you need to have a big gun? No. No, you don't.
But for instance, the touchdown he threw to IU, right at the end of the first half, I'm sure you remember the play.
Yeah, left side. Left side. That ball lost major energy on the back.
back in, but Iyuk was so open, he could wait for it.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, the ball died, but Iyuk was so wide open.
Yeah, it's a game of inches too, though.
I bet you there'll be a ton of throws where, you know, Jimmy with a little bit more
knowledge of the offense and like Debo or Iyuk where, you know, maybe Purdy misses by two
a foot, but Jimmy would have hit it.
You know what I mean?
Like it's so, it's such a fine line between, you know, succeeding and not really on place.
No question. And like I said, all we have are two games. Purdy has played very well in two games. I think most would agree that the sample size of two games is not enough to make any definitive statement about Brock Purdy's future. But we have two games in which he's played well and demonstrated some things that I think Kyle Shanahan will be able to expand a little bit in what he does. Now, as we go forward, can we sit here with a definitive nature and say, hey,
he'll make the throws that Garapolo made with the same consistency.
I don't know if we can say that yet.
Maybe after two or three or four more games, we won't.
We might be able to say that.
Well, Jimmy G.
I don't know if we can definitively say that.
And we know that Debo's out.
Yeah.
And Jimmy G in the first game only threw 21 balls,
but he only threw for 154 with a touch.
I guess he was fine,
but they ran it quite a bit,
which will probably be the case this week, obviously.
Jeff Wilson ran 18 times 84.
or Debo had five, four carriages for 53.
I mean, Ty Davis Price at 14 damn carries in the game.
So that would be a tough.
That's a tough matchup too in a spot for him in Seattle, too, by the way.
And he's hurt, you know.
And it's a short week.
So a lot of running.
And hey, Gino has been great, but he wasn't great in this matchup early on.
Well, just one quick point.
We know that the Seahawks have had major issues in run defense.
Yeah.
So, you know, I think that's something really to look at in this game because the 49ers did get their
game working effectively with McCaffrey last week.
Hell, I like Jordan Mason off the damn bench.
I mean, teams are running it 30 plus times a game with their running backs, the last four.
And, you know, McCaffrey ain't getting...
Yeah, now, Minson really didn't play much until the game was out of hand, so I don't know
how many carries he might get when the game's competitive.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it wasn't, they're not using them like Elijah Mitchell as weaving them in and out
of the offense.
No, no, no, McCaffrey was the guy last year.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know...
You know, at just one point, I watched the Gino tape.
I don't think Gino was bad.
Yeah.
I thought the first pick of the game, which was the first throw,
I thought it was just one of those incredible plays by J.C. Horn.
Right.
Yeah.
By the way, the Panthers defense, and I had watched them in a number of weeks,
they're really fun to watch.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
They're very talented.
They are multiple front looks, multiple pressure concepts,
disguise, late rotation with coverage.
They end up playing more zone than man.
but they're a challenging defense to play against.
Trevor Lawrence, well, things aren't very challenging for him right now as we go through
Greg CoSell's week 14 notes here on the week 15 matchup podcast here at FantasyPoints.com.
I saw all your numbers and your data.
It's all looking good.
Everything looks good.
It seems like he's getting a clear picture.
He's playing a little faster.
He's not thinking, I guess, just going out there and playing and executing.
Well, you have to remember one thing.
It's a very similar offense to the Chiefs because it's Doug Peterson where he started his career and where he was taught.
And that offense really presents defined means and throws.
Now, you have to remember one thing, too.
They played Tennessee this week.
Tennessee can no longer rush the quarterback.
They're missing people.
And they're missing people on the back end.
So they essentially had to play Amani Hooker as their slot corner, not only in big nickel,
but in regular nickel and dime when they just had to play pass.
Yeah.
And because of that, they played far more zone coverage and they became much more predictable to call plays against.
Well, a whole new ball game this week, I guess, against Dallas.
They'll get a lot of man coverage this week.
Yeah, and that will make things define for Trevor.
It would.
But it also means that you have to make, you know, really precise throws.
Yeah, and these guys got to win, you know.
So this is a week.
John, will your matchup of Kirk in the slot?
And I guess it's Bland is going to be a big factor.
Yeah, because he's not even the starter.
It's Jordan Lewis.
He's long gone, right?
Yes.
Right.
So, yeah, well, that's what we look for.
Duran Bland, graded out fairly well with our fantasy points data thus far.
Actually compares a little bit more favorable to than Diggs in terms of fantasy points given up per route run.
but that's a sample size thing too, I'm sure.
So yeah, so you like Kirk, okay.
Zay Jones.
No, no, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think you would have to at least look at Kirk, you know, this week because it will be, you know, a good amount of man coverage.
Right, gotcha.
That's one thing this week we can say, you know, it's not just, as you like to say, of a guy being in the area, he's going to cover him.
Right.
Gotcha.
Yeah, I wonder about Zay Jones against man.
And like when he's on like Trayvon Diggs, I mean, he's good, Zay Jones, but he's not really a great separate.
rate, right? You know. Well, yeah, and it could be, you know, I don't know if the Cowboys in this case would feel that Diggs would match up to one guy or whether it's whoever, whether it's Marvin Jones or Zay Jones, whether it's whoever it is. I don't know how they would go. Oh, no. I'm just going off of the percentage of where they line up in the past this year.
Okay.
Would be going off of that, he would be on Diggs more than the other corner. How about Evan Ingram? I mean, you've got to be kidding me. I don't even think he's.
moving all that well but he seems to be open all the time well he had a really good game this week
obviously and of course not all of that is you know against like i said they they saw a lot of zone
coverage this week but there were a couple of plays um where he won versus man i mean he had a
really nice whip route against byard where he beat fired with a really good route i mean yeah no he
he played well this week and he looked good has he moved do you notice him you know do what do you
think of how he's moving out there i mean he's getting it done obviously but
But he used to be much quick twitch here, I think.
I always viewed him as kind of straight-line fast.
That kind of was his game.
Right.
I mean, I don't watch him and go, man, that guy's not moving well.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
For me to compare him to three or four years ago.
Right.
You know, he's always, it seemed like with the giants, he was always hurt.
Oh, well, that's it.
And that's what I've always wondered, because it feels like those injuries have robbed him with some of that juice.
Yeah.
You know, he did have some burst here.
There's no doubt.
Moving on here.
How about Baker Mayfield?
How surprising was that tape in terms of...
I just watched the final drive and a bunch of other plays, you know, just because that's what I wanted to see.
Obviously, the winning touchdown was a perfect throw.
I mean, big time, precise ball placement throw.
He dropped it right in the bucket.
The other fade ball, because it was really...
two fade balls that were the big plays was not really a good throw.
Scoronic made an outstanding catch.
But you have to make that throw in that situation, John,
because it was one-on-one on the outside with a big receiver versus a small corner.
I mean, it was Scoronic, who's six-three, going up over Hobbs, who's short.
Yeah.
I actually thought that Mayfield's best play, not his best throw,
but his best play on that drive was only an eight-yard throw.
to Skoronic, but I thought that he worked the progression really, really effectively and got the
ball to the right receiver. So, you know, obviously they won the game. He's going to be their starter.
Sure seems like it all, he seems like a good fit. Like, you know, it just seems to work.
You know, he doesn't have the arm talent of Stafford, but maybe got a little bit more escapeability.
But, you know, he doesn't, you're right. Very few have the arm talent of Stafford, but Mayfield does
not have a bad arm at all. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, could you, could you see him? I mean,
would you be shocked if in five years he's still the Rams quarterback? Like Stafford's not playing forever.
I don't know if I want to say five years, but I think that depending on how he does this season,
the Rams could easily see going forward because who knows what Matthew Stafford's going to do.
I've heard so many conflicting reports about his injury. Yeah, right. I mean, could I see if he
plays well and acclimates himself well to that system? Could I see the Rams thinking that
this guy's our quarterback, yes, I could.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, it seems to really make a lot of sense, you know,
because I don't know if Baker, I mean, Baker feels like he kind of needs some help here.
Like, you know, run-based offense, offensive genius guru guy, you know,
you know what I mean?
Like, well, their run game's going to have to get a whole lot better as they go forward,
not only this year, but next year,
because we always talk about a run-based offense,
but they don't get the production out of their run game.
Yeah, true.
Back to Miami when you looked at Justin Herbert, you know, what are your thoughts here?
I mean, he's playing well, ran around a little bit more.
You know, the fantasy people are complaining because of his low A dot all year.
But again, you're watching the tape.
The dude's O-line and protection is not good.
No.
I mean, he made a lot of throws off second reaction movement in this last game against Miami.
The Chargers O' line had issues in past protection.
He was forced to move.
He showed great downfield vision and ball placement on the move.
You know, their offense is in many ways, and I don't want to say this as a 100% statement,
but this year they're forced to play a certain way because their old line is not really very good.
I mean, that's just the reality of life.
Now they played a Dolphins team too.
That pressures a lot.
Yeah.
That shows pressure fronts.
The Titans won't do any of that.
Yeah.
The Titans, a four-man D-line pass rush.
And by the way, it has been stoned the last two weeks by both the Eagles and the Jaguars.
And they play a ton of zone on the back end because they have a ton of injuries.
So this could be a game where you could see some more shot play-type throws from Herbert and that passing game.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
And I'm sure plenty of Keenan Allen, of course, doing really well.
Jets offense, Mike White, looks like he's going to go.
Mike White is a tough dude.
Yeah.
So is that what stands out to you, the toughness out of the.
He does stand tall in that pocket.
He will absolutely stand and deliver knowing that he will take a shot.
He's also an aggressive turn-at-loose thrower.
I think Mike White has shown well.
You know, it'll be fascinating, John, as we go through.
Let's assume he plays well the final four games,
whether they make the playoffs or not, you know, but let's say he plays well.
You're a little bit stuck.
Well, I say you just go to camp.
It's a hardcore steel cage match position battle.
May the best man win.
That'll be interesting because, again, all I know is what I read when it comes to other things besides the tape.
But it seems pretty clear that the offensive players, including the receivers, are all in on Mike White.
Yeah, no.
He's a bro.
you know he kind of like locker room guy uh Zach White Zach Wilson is a little you know a little pre Madonna is she kind of all that so I don't know I mean you know hey they'll have to make that decision um but we'll see how the final four games play out but so far Mike White has acquitted himself very well um he's tough he's I mean the fact that he game back twice with those and those were too vicious hit yeah yeah tough dude yeah checks it down you know get three
looks down field.
You know, the more I'm watching Garrett Wilson, by the way, this year,
the more he's reminded me of Justin Jefferson.
You know, like it's every week now, all over the place.
Well, yeah, he's not that kind of receiver because of the difference in size,
but I know what you're saying.
Like, just kind of taken over, you know, like every week, it just gets better.
And you know what I mean?
And doing it from a variety of places, right?
Yeah, no, he's a good receiver.
I thought he was really, he would have been, you know, if I had to make a list,
he was my number two coming out this year.
I mean, it's an impressive star.
I mean, I think we all knew he was good, really good.
I just, I wasn't sold that he would be this good right away.
And I guess that was dumb, but also, you know,
I had some questions about the quarterback play.
And they had a freaking bunch of receivers there, you know, like, I'd still like
Elijah Moore, but and Corey Davis.
But, hey, he's risen to the top here.
Like, he's the guy.
Like, he's been the guy since, like, October, you know, when you watch it.
He's very, he's very, very good.
Yeah.
And the Bill's offense, you didn't see that.
You just saw their day?
No, the Bill's offense, I'm going to watch tomorrow.
Yeah.
I don't know what they're doing, you know.
So we'll see.
We'll see what we need a dose of reality, John.
And I'm being honest with you.
Yeah.
And, you know, we need a dose of reality based on tape study.
Their offense isn't very good.
I know.
Their old line is average at best.
They've got one receiver.
They don't have a run game.
So if I said that about,
any team, you'd probably say to me, well, their offense is not very good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But because they're the bills and because everybody said they were a Super Bowl contender
and maybe the favorite to get in and win the Super Bowl, it seems like, oh, my God,
you know, what's going on with the bills?
Right.
But if you watch tape, it's not a surprise.
Yeah.
Oh, you've been on this.
They're not very talented on offense.
The quarterback is a Superman, and you can't ask him to be that every week.
Their number one receiver is top three to top five in the league.
They've got no other wide receivers.
who you can count on any week for anything,
and they have no run game.
Well, you know, and in the passing game, yeah.
Oh, other than that, they're great.
No, I mean, no, I'm, no, I know.
This is a dose of reality based on tape study.
When I look at the idea that what's wrong with the bill's offense,
one of the things wrong with the bill's offense is they're not very talented.
Yeah, well, you can say they're almost kind of getting exposed a little bit.
I know that's a bad word, but, you know, when I look at the passing game
and the three levels of the defense, let's say, he's missing,
his checkdown underneath
intermediate Cole Beasley guy
who's now back
Is he going to play this week?
I think so
you know
He's been missing his blankie
And they're just not making
The vertical play
So what do we have?
You know?
It's just Steph Diggs
Running all over the place
Correct
And teams can work to take him away
And then it gets a little tough
Yeah
Well how about
The Bucks offense?
I mean this is like Groundhog Day
Right?
watching this tape every week it's got to be like brady getting rid of the ball quickly uh timing doesn't
seem to be there mike evans doesn't seem to be on his game you know is that every is it pretty much
the same deal every week yeah they don't run it particularly well they don't protect particularly well
uh brady because he doesn't want to get sacked or hit you know often gets rid of the ball really
quickly and falls away from throws yeah so overall this is not a very good offense right now
right and you know well it's week 15 uh this is what it is i mean we were worried about the damn
matchup and we were right to be worried uh last week um moving on to i wanted to ask you about
one other thing here for sure oh bengal's offense uh just another check in on on joe burrow i just
i'm not studying the tape like you i'm just i'm just feeling just like tremendous elite play this
year from Burrow.
I guess we talk about it every week.
Yeah, I mean, Burrow's playing really well.
I think he's learned over these last couple of years how to better camouflage and compensate
for an O-line that is average at best and past protection.
He had to learn that.
You know, he had to learn how to move, you know, learn how not to hold the ball so he wouldn't
get sacked.
And I think he's getting much, much better at that.
I think that that's become a significant part of his game and advancement in his game.
but he's just a quarterback that when you watch him,
the word that comes to my mind is quiet.
He just looks quiet playing the game.
Nothing seems fast.
Nothing seems frenetic.
Right. He just looks quiet.
Right.
He's almost like, in some ways,
he's almost kind of comatose.
He just has this air about him where he's just very unaffected, I guess.
Well, yeah, he plays like that.
Yeah.
Yes, it just, I'm never going to say it's easy because it's not easy, as we all know.
But he just makes it look like he doesn't have to work real hard to do what he does.
I thought it was a great job by them dealing with.
They had no Haydenhurst.
Boyd got hurt.
Higgins wasn't even the damn game.
Well, Higgins played one snap and Boyd played two snaps, and then it became Irwin and Taylor.
And they were factors in the game at some extent.
Yeah.
They were.
I thought that was really, really good.
And then Jamar Chase kind of picking up the slack.
So we'll see about Higgins this week.
But man, you get a little Joe Mixing back.
That certainly helped.
And you did not see the Browns offense, correct?
No, I guess.
Well, we may be turning in the right direction a little bit there with DeShon Watson.
You saw Seattle's offense.
Any other thoughts there on Gino?
it feels like Gino had a rough start and then kind of scratched and clawed his way back.
Yeah, Gino did not play poorly.
I mean, you know, Gino has been playing so well and the numbers have been so good in so many areas
that when he doesn't do that, it's almost like, well, Gino's back to being Gino, but he did not
play poorly in this game.
One other, a couple of other straggler items.
He had the Giants offense.
It looks like Evan Neal is still kind of struggling in past protection.
Kevin Neil had a really difficult time in this game.
Thank God he's not a left tackle, I guess, right?
Yeah, he had a really difficult time.
I mean, it's still early, but some people thought he might be better off at guard.
Yeah, some did.
I mean, he's going to play right tackle for the Giants.
That's not going to change this year.
And he's a tough assignment then.
I know these teams played a couple of weeks ago, and Daniel Jones did pretty well.
But, you know, their O-line against D.C. that could get Chase Young back is a little, that's a little scary.
of a matchup?
Yes, it is.
I mean, and obviously they just played,
that was the last game Washington played
because they're coming off a buy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
McLaurin crushed them.
The problem with the giant,
one of the problems with the Giants' offense
is there's no consistency to their run game.
It's not something they can count on.
Yeah, no doubt.
And Sequan, apparently is, you know, full go,
but, you know, very, very minimal effect,
I guess, last week,
Eagles just, or maybe the Eagles just
kicking everyone's ass on the line of scratch,
image.
Well, the Eagles are pretty good.
I mean, I spoke to a coach that's playing them and said everything starts with their
defensive front.
Okay.
And that's kind of where it does start.
They're really good up front.
You know, and they may get Dallas Godderback now.
Yeah, for this week, I know he's in the window, so I guess we won't know until Saturday
if they decide to elevate him.
I don't know how all that works, but, you know.
He could be elevated.
He could be elevated Saturday and sued up on Sunday.
Right.
if they open the window.
So we'll see if he practiced.
I guess he's trending toward a return.
So the rich get richer in Philadelphia.
And let's see.
I thought I had one more little nugget here.
Derek Henry,
you know,
it was a weird game in that, you know,
he got his yards,
even though they were playing from way behind.
But I would imagine.
He only had three carries in the second half.
Yeah.
But hey, he still,
he still got.
got it done and it was a pretty good day.
And obviously, you know, maybe we'll see something similar, though,
because, you know, they may fall away behind here like they did last week or against the,
I'm not even sure what I'm talking about with this.
But Derek Henry this week, he's going to get the ball.
I guess that's the problem.
If they fall behind, he won't get as many carries.
But did he look, you know, last week or two, you know, same kind of deal?
Like, he's still kind of, he just looks like.
I'd say 80%, like he's not quite Derek Henry,
but he still looks like Derek Henry.
Yeah, I mean, their own line's not very good.
It's, you know, John, he's going to,
the bottom line is that this team has become different.
And their defense is not very good right now.
And it changes the way they have to play offense.
So, like, for instance, if this game was close,
if this was a normal defensive game, John,
for the Titans, Derek Henry would have ended up with 28 carries for 190 yards.
And you probably would have said, Derek Henry looks pretty good to me.
But they fell behind and Henry had three carry.
He had 119 yards or 117 yards in the first half.
So, you know, you would say there's really nothing wrong with Derek Henry.
It's just they couldn't run the ball in the second half.
Yeah.
I think actually very inarticulate there a moment ago.
I think that's kind of what I was trying to say, because Tannenhill is throwing it a little bit more now.
He's like over 30.
He's actually averaging 254 yards a game in his last four.
Yeah. They're not built to play that way, though.
So that's not the way they want to play, nor are they built to play that way.
Yeah.
So, you know, they were a really good defense early in the season.
They were a really good defense the last couple of years.
And when you have that, you can run your running back.
When you don't have that, you can't run your running.
running back. So, you know, Henry is a victim and a function of the rest of his team right now.
You know, he had, shoot, like 14 for 117 or 14 for 119 in the first half alone.
Well, that said, I think, to his credit, he's still decent for fantasy. And that's all we care about.
He's still decent. He's getting 20 plus touches, you're getting a little bit more in the
passing game. And, you know, that's to his credit, because I was out on him.
And I would say, you know, if things went better, you know, for the team overall,
Trayland Berks doesn't get hurt, the defense's a little bit.
You know, we're probably talking about this guy a lot more this year.
But good for him and good for us because we're done and good for you because you made it through
the week 15 edition of the matchup points podcast here at fantasy points.com.
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so check your feet off and we'll do two or three more before the weekend is up.
For Greg Cosell, I'm John Hanson.
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